She's Got It Together

How To Survive Traveling With Kids

Season 1 Episode 10

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Hey there, it's Jess and Sam, and we're back with another episode all about traveling with our kiddos! As moms, we've been through it all - from diaper blowouts on planes to trying to keep our little ones entertained on long car rides. In this episode, we're sharing our experiences and dishing out some of our best tips and tricks for making travel a bit more manageable (and maybe even fun!) with kids in tow.

We chat about everything from timing your travel around nap schedules to packing hacks that will save your sanity. And let's be real, sometimes you just gotta embrace the chaos and roll with it! We also dive into some of the challenges that come with traveling as your family grows and how to navigate things like seating arrangements on planes.

Through all the ups and downs, one thing's for sure - traveling with your kids is all about making those core memories together. So grab a coffee (or maybe a glass of wine!) and join us as we swap stories and share some laughs about the joys and challenges of traveling with our little ones. Trust us, if we can survive it, you can too!


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Traveling With Kids

Speaker 1

It was, like I said, it folded flat so you could put it in a bag or you could, you know, carry it with you. It was so convenient and was a great, great concoction.

Speaker 2

I know like traveling in itself can be expensive, but then getting the things to make it easier can also be kind of expensive. So you just kind of have to like pick and choose what's most important for you in that trip because I could have gone nuts on stuff that I'm like, oh yeah, this would be great, I could totally use that.

Speaker 1

How many times are you going to use it? Do you just want to use it once while you're there, or is it going to be like an everyday thing?

Speaker 2

Well, that's the thing. You have to pick and choose like what's most important. What am I going to use, like for just this trip? What can I use in the future? And you just kind of got to decide like what's important to invest in, or even renting the things you know.

Speaker 1

Like, if you're going to rent them, you know, make sure you're only getting the things you need to really need, not stuff that would just make your life super, super easy.

Speaker 3

And then Hi everyone, and welcome to a brand new episode of she's Got it Together. I'm your host, jessica.

Speaker 2

And I'm Samantha. Each week we peel back the curtain on what it really looks like to have it together.

Speaker 3

From the messy moments to the milestones, we're here to share it all.

Speaker 2

So grab your favorite drink, get comfy and let's dive into today's topic.

Speaker 1

All right, we are back, and today's episode is going to be all about traveling with our kiddos. So Sam and I both have some experience with this and different ways or modes of traveling but we want to start out talking about in the car.

Speaker 1

I mean I think we do that the most and I imagine that's probably the most common for everyone, most economical these days, for sure. But I mean it doesn't even have to be long trips. I mean it can be you know a couple hours here or there, or it can be, you know like I think you go what 13, 14 hours to New Jersey.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we went to New Jersey. It took us 13 hours, yeah, but yeah, we go, you know, back home to see mom and dad and you and it's like two and a half hours. We go up north, it's like an hour and a half. So you know Bo's in the car a lot and he's been in the car a lot since he was little because it was important to us to be you know able to like yeah, it was important to us to be able to go up north, because we go up a lot.

Speaker 2

It was important to us to see mom and dad and you, and so he's been in the car. He's been in the car a lot. But I think with Bo like and I was also you know you have to also consider, like, if you're breastfeeding like I was when they're little, you're going to have to make stops for that. You can't just like, take them out of the car seat and, you know, feed them even though you might want to Like yeah, just flap it out, right.

Speaker 1

Well, I actually did see this.

Speaker 3

I did see this video.

Speaker 2

It was, it was, it was a joke.

Speaker 2

It was a joke.

Speaker 2

But this girl was like, um, they were traveling and like her kid was breastfeeding and he was hungry and she just like, instead of getting her kid out of the car seat, she just like leaned over you know and like gave him her boob while he was in the car seat and it was a total joke.

Speaker 2

But I'm like, I feel you, because sometimes you just don't want to stop, you just get there and you do have to take those moments because even if they eat out of a bottle, like you're really not supposed to feed them when they're that young in the car seat because they can choke and like you need to burp them, yeah, so it's like a whole thing. But you know you just have to, you know prepare to have more stops and just kind of go with it and just a lot yourself more time if you can. Then you then like the actual travel time, because I think we had to stop one or two times, usually once with Bo for going home. It was like two and a half hours so he would when he was younger and eating, like every couple hours.

Speaker 2

We would usually have to stop at least once, like halfway, because I would feed him right before we left, like we would he'd be done and get in the car and go, we would time it and we did the same for up north, like I would feed him, and then we would get right in the car and go and then you know for an hour and 45 minutes like he wouldn't need to eat.

Speaker 2

So I'm like I'm feeding him now and then we are going. So make sure the car is packed, make sure it is on and ready to go, because of the second he's done, he's getting burped and we are getting in that car and we are going because I'm like I do not want to stop.

Speaker 3

We don't have to.

Speaker 2

So unless he had like a blowout or something, which only happened once so far, you know you just have to really plan your time out with the breastfeeding, especially. I mean, if you're, if you're bottle feeding too like you still like you'll want to feed them like right before you go and then feed them like when you get there. Or you don't have a bottle ready so you can just take them out of the car seat, feed them, put them right back in and move on your way. I think it's just about anticipating what's going to happen?

Speaker 1

I mean, when we used to do this and I, I mean, it's been almost 10 years since I've fed a baby in a car, but we, you know, it wasn't really as frowned upon to feed a bottle in the car as it is now. It's crazy how things change. I mean it's just like putting the bottles in the microwave, I mean there's new rules every year, I feel like it's crazy.

Speaker 2

There's always, like now, like before, you weren't supposed to have lunch meat or heated up in the microwave If you were going to eat it. Now, you can just eat it.

Speaker 1

You know I could eat lunch meat. It was never a problem.

Speaker 2

And then it was a time when it's so funny because, like when I was pregnant and stuff, and like my mother-in-law and my mom, they were like okay, well, you can't do this. I'm like yes, I can, and they're like no, you can't. You know, like yes, I can, I talked to my doctor Like I was like this is not the nineties anymore or the eighties anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 1

I don't. It's just crazy how things change, and I mean it's like the, you know, laying them on the back or laying them on the stomach, like I mean that's changed a few times, but I used to feed Taylor in the car all the time. Well, I hate to. I mean just intercar seat, just you know holding her bottle. In fact, the bumps on the road usually burped her.

Speaker 2

Well, that works out perfectly, See, and like then you could literally travel anywhere if you could feed them in the car, and I'm sure some people still do. I just didn't One because I couldn't. Well, you would have had and like Bo did take a bottle, but I'm like you know what, it's just easier, especially in the beginning, because like then you got a pump and you're uncomfortable and it's like you know they need to eat for me. But we went to New Jersey this past November for Thanksgiving and that was like Bo was a year old at that point and that was his first like pretty long trip in the car, so we weren't sure, like how he was going to handle it. So I got him, of course, like I was scouring the internet and Instagram for like travel tips with kids which actually came out very helpful.

Speaker 2

I got him some new toys, like a busy book, and then I got him this like light switch thing, like a busy light switch thing that he liked and then it also helped because Bo doesn't like it when it's super dark in the car, so the lights like kept it nice without having to like have like the car lights on because that's like distracting for Brett at night. But I just got him some new toys, I had lots of snacks and on the way to New Jersey yeah, snacks, always snacks.

Speaker 2

Yeah, snacks were, were big and he was just getting into like snacks. So it was nice. I'm like here's like a yogurt milk, here's a puff, you know, switch it up. But what we did on the way there was we broke up the trip, so we left at like five at night when Brett got out of work, drove like five hours, got a hotel, stayed in a hotel and then got up early the next day and drove like the rest of the way, the six hours or seven hours or whatever it was, and that was nice. He actually surprised the heck out of me, slept straight through in the hotel and was fine. He did really great.

Speaker 2

I found he was just like a little out of it, like he did normally. I thought he would just go to sleep. You know, because his bedtime is like seven, I thought, okay, he'll like be in the car for a couple hours and he'll sleep, or we fine. Well, he didn't do that. You know you have to like he did not sleep, he was cranky and I'm like, huh, I thought this would have worked out better.

Tips for Traveling With Kids

Speaker 2

Well, on the way home, we're just like okay, let's see how he does driving straight through. So the drive is like 11 hours or so. It took us 13 to get home. We stopped three times to change him and get some food and just get him out of the car and he did so good, like he slept, he ate, he played. He barely cried 13 hours straight in the car, got out three times. Not for that long either, it's not like we spent a ton of time out of the car and he was way better during that 13 hour stretch that he was on like a five hour stretch at night, which I thought it would be the complete opposite.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and I don't know if it was just his mood that day, but yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2

So what we the reasoning is like you just you can't, necessarily you can try to figure it out and figure out what works best for your kid, because obviously this was our first time driving that distance and we really were like, okay, let's just, let's just test it and see if he can do the full 13 hours, instead of breaking up and getting another hotel room and all this stuff. Because we were going to Colorado around spring break and we're driving and that's like a 18 hour car drive, and so we're like, okay, we got to figure out if he can even handle being in the car that long and, of course, like we are definitely breaking up that trip.

Speaker 3

That's hard for me, and then.

Speaker 2

I'm going to be like five months pregnant at that time too, which is not going to be the most fun. But he did great and I just had a lot of snacks. I had new toys that he'd never had before.

Speaker 3

Yeah, new toys is a good tip.

Speaker 2

And I only got like two new toys.

Speaker 2

I didn't go nuts but I mean, there's even these cool little like snack bins you can get, and I got these like squishy window things and stuff like that. That was more for like the plane. But I think the other thing that like surprised me with him too is just like he really didn't have like a like a crazy blowout or pee or I figured I was going to have like some kind of crazy like diaper situation, but he was fine. I'm like, yeah, great. So I was pleasantly surprised by our long trip.

Speaker 1

That's good. Yeah, I mean so with the older kids. You know, when we travel, I feel like we have more headaches than you probably did.

Speaker 2

Well, they're more vocal. They are very easily probably.

Speaker 1

Are we there yet? Are we?

Speaker 2

there yet.

Speaker 1

It's so frustrating. Our kids aren't really great travelers.

Speaker 2

Well, and that's the other thing is you like I was bow at that time wasn't really into like TV and like you can't just like put a show on really for him at that point. So I would put Bluey on or something if he was getting kind of fussy and he just needed something to distract him from like being in the car. But he wasn't really watching it. He just likes the intro song and then he would be fine. So now he has stuffed animal that plays it, so I don't have to do that. Oh, perfect.

Speaker 1

Now I think, as much as I don't like the constant electronics for the older kids.

Speaker 1

It's like that is the one thing we pack. We make sure things are charged in the morning and we have like in our truck we've got an outlet so we actually have a power strip in the outlet so that we can charge multiples on our long trips and it makes it so much nicer. I mean, whether it's you know the DVD players, or the kids have you know their, their iPads, or I mean Taylor likes to have our computer. It's just it keeps them calmer because we've tried doing like books and things but they get carsick.

Speaker 2

I do too. Yeah, I know, even being on my phone, I get carsick in the back seat, especially like I'd be and I would be I was going back and forth from the front seat to the back seat Because I get kind of carsick in the back, especially if I'm moving around like helping Bo and I'm just like I need to know yeah, I'm like I need to be at the front, so our Colorado trip will be interesting Because I'm going to be in the back and yeah, you click.

Speaker 1

Well, you did claim a bucket seat right.

Speaker 2

Yes, yeah, bo, or Brett's going to be in the far back. He, he's just.

Speaker 1

Sleep anyway, Right.

Speaker 2

But if I get that bad, then CJ will probably would be totally fine switching with me, because she just would be next to Bo, you know.

Speaker 1

so yeah that's hard, but as far as packing, so that's like the other thing to all of this packing for a long trip, I mean when you have all the baby stuff.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh yes.

Speaker 1

When we went to Gatlinburg, do you remember? Because so we went to Gatlinburg when the kids were younger and we took Sam with us as our babysitter. Slash like I don't know, nanny, I don't know, whatever you want to call me.

Speaker 2

She was just. I got a free vacation, she was fine.

Speaker 1

It was really fun. So we had to make. We had the truck and we had to make it work with. You know just what we could fit the truck bed basically.

Speaker 2

Which.

Speaker 1

I mean, it was a week long vacation and it's not like Well with kids everything's double.

Speaker 2

You got especially like back then. I don't think like Airbnb's have as much stuff to accommodate kids as you know, they don't like a lot of times now they have like pack and plays or gates or whatever right there yeah. But back then they didn't. So it's like you had to pack all that or you had to, like, buy it there and then, either, yes, home or return it, or whatever you're going to do with it.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So it definitely adds up. We had to ton of room. We had to go buy a gate. Remember there was a staircase in there that wasn't originally supposed to be there because they made, they added a room, in a game room or something it was a game room in the spiral staircase which was not part of like the description of pictures. And I specifically picked this Airbnb because there was no stairs.

Speaker 2

Right, there was no Well shoot. I think they talk about their new addition with a game.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I yeah, it didn't work out so well for me, but I mean it was a great place but not what we had planned. But we had to go buy a gate for that and then we ended up packing the pack and play of our own and taking things like that. I think if we were traveling by airplane like we did for Texas Right, we got a little creative and bought things on Amazon, had them shipped to the Airbnb and no judging, but I had most of it sent back and returned.

Speaker 2

You barely use it.

Speaker 1

We barely used it, and that's like I didn't need it. Nor did we really want to spend the extra money when we weren't going to have any use for it.

Speaker 2

Well then, like, what do you do with it when you fly home? You know like you can write it to your people there that, but they didn't need it either.

Speaker 1

No, they didn't need it, so it's just like that was well actually companies that do this like now they have companies.

Speaker 2

I looked into this when we went to San Diego for Brett's brother's wedding. But they have companies now that you can just rent stuff from and they'll even drop it off at like your Airbnb They'll set it up for you.

Speaker 1

You get crams gates. Yeah.

Speaker 2

So, like, whatever you need that you can rent, it's nuts.

Speaker 3

That's smart.

Speaker 2

My friend, ashley, did it when she went to Florida and she said it was awesome. I mean, luckily I didn't have to do it. The Airbnb that we got in San Diego had everything, or I just brought what we needed. But now I feel like you can specifically look for an Airbnb or VRBO that has that's either kid friendly or has like packing plays and gates and stuff like that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, which is so helpful when you're traveling by plane. Yeah, because I mean really at that. I mean this was what eight years ago. No, yeah, I mean no. How long have they been married? It's honestly like just over a year, so it was almost 10. Yeah, nine 10 years ago, yeah, and there was no other choice.

Speaker 2

There's nothing like that. Then, yeah, and there was one Airbnb, and the Airbnb's were like just kind of becoming like a thing, kind of you know, and like they didn't have all that like stuff to accommodate families. It was just kind of like what they had at their house. But now you can specifically look for that stuff and I wouldn't mind spending a little bit more on a place that had that stuff, because you don't have to worry about buying it.

Speaker 2

So you don't have to worry about renting it. But if you are going in with other people on a house and that's like what they want and they don't have baby stuff, so you can find one of those places that you can rent it.

Speaker 2

You know, that's a great business model, man. Well, I was looking into it so deeply that they will bring, like, if you need a car seat, because we needed a car seat. We weren't flying with ours. Bo was just a lap baby. I didn't want to bring our car seat. We ended up buying one and then bringing it home with us. But you can even rent a car seat and they'll bring it to the airport for you so that you can get in a taxi or a Uber or wherever.

Speaker 2

Deliver it to you at the airport even along with your stuff or you can get it like it's nuts, like you can, yeah, that's smart, so smart. Whoever like came up with that is probably doing another mom.

Speaker 1

Probably I'm a father.

Speaker 2

I had all this trouble, exactly these businesses are. Yeah, a mom definitely had to, because we're so smart.

Speaker 1

You know us moms, we got it. We just have to. You know, I know you just like you go Put it together.

Speaker 2

Yeah, if you have a second to like collect your thoughts, we could all be bajillionaires of all the cool inventions or businesses that we could invent if we just had a second. And if we didn't have, like the mom brain issues half the time where we could collect our thoughts and have a minute. You know what we?

Speaker 1

need to fix, I think, and I don't think that these little delivery services do. This is the formula issue. So when I flew to Texas well, we all flew to Texas and Taylor was still she was just barely one, you know going through customs with the form as she was on a very specific.

Speaker 2

Well, not customs.

Speaker 1

And it was liquid. Well, tsa, yeah. And they wanted to open every bottle, even though they were all sealed like they were in the actual ready made like. They were ready made similac because she their liquid and they had to be liquid and they have to be. When you open them, you know like they have to be in a refrigerator.

Speaker 2

So well, yeah, or use it at the same time, and right.

Speaker 1

So there was no way we could open them and they you know were. They were going to throw them all away and they're expensive. It was like well, yeah, she had a special formula, you know and I had some shipped to the Airbnb to use, but this was like what we took in case there was some problem at the airport.

Speaker 2

If we were delayed.

Speaker 1

They don't have that there and this is like enough. This was like a day and a half's worth that I took with me just as a precaution.

Speaker 2

Well, if your flight gets canceled and you have to stay in a hotel, or you're delayed or you know, you have to anticipate that.

Airport Formula Woes and Solutions

Speaker 1

So many things and like.

Speaker 3

I said they weren't open.

Speaker 1

They had the foil seal. I mean they swipe them all and make sure that there was no contraband on them, because, well, that just happened to be when there was an issue with drugs being like smuggled in through baby formula.

Speaker 2

Yeah, actually Baby powder cans, that's when there was like kind of an issue with that, I think, because I remember it being like a thing, and then we were going to Texas and it was by the Mexican border and. I think they were just like you're right Making an issue with it.

Speaker 1

I know they said the only way we could go through with it was if one of us was like completely searched, like I don't know. So DJ is like well, you're not touching my wife, so you search me. But it was like a whole half hour debacle.

Speaker 3

I remember trying to get her you know, and.

Speaker 1

I'm just like, I can't go without the formula she has to eat.

Speaker 2

This is all you know, this is well, and I feel like it's gotten a little bit better, but also it has it, because I saw this mom like, especially with breast milk, like oh yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 2

There's just been way too much stuff work because you can. You can bring it back with you, like frozen or whatever, if you're choosing to pump and bring it back. If you like, leave your kid and you're pumping and you want to bring it back with you, you can. They this. I felt so bad.

Speaker 2

This woman I don't know how long she was gone but she had like over a hundred ounces of Frozen, packed baby like breast milk that's. She had it all packed so that it would stay cold and they literally Opened it up and like we're scanning each pack to the point where she was like you have to close it up, all of this is gonna spoil, it's getting too warm, it's thawing, like it. They did not care. The woman was just like scanning each one and she ruined this woman's hundred ounces of breast milk that she pumped and the woman was crying and people were like yelling at this, like TSA person and it's like she didn't care. She's like I have to scan each one, like she's like well, can you at least like cover the other ones up so they're not getting like warm air and like here.

Speaker 2

So I feel like there's been some steps, but they're they're not. It's not good enough, like there needs to be something that changes with that, because you have to be able to bring enough food for your baby, or you have to be able to at least be able to bring it back for your baby. If you're gone and pumping, like cuz, that's for a woman, that's breastfed, that is like liquid gold. And if I pump, that's about how much I pumped, if not a little bit more. For when I was gone for three days from both, yeah, I went to Florida like it took me so long to do that, and then what? It's just like gone like that. It is like.

Speaker 2

So it's Devastating and people don't care because they don't know or they're like there's not like you can just go Quickly pump more.

Speaker 1

Your body, no, produces so much.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's, it's crazy. I feel like that definitely.

Speaker 2

There has to be a better for that, because my I Guess she's not really my friend, but somebody that I knew she Was at the airport same situation happened where she got delayed, her flight got cancelled and she couldn't leave. She was running out of her formula and she couldn't leave the airport Because then she couldn't get back in to get on her flight. They wouldn't let her go to her suitcase where more formula was and she's like I have to feed my baby, I don't have anything. And so then she was just like crying in the airport and people were like asking her what's wrong, and so all these people were trying to help her find formula for her baby so that she could feed him. In the airport. She couldn't go anywhere. They wouldn't let her go to her bag. She ran out of what she had not expecting to be delayed like almost that's 15 hours, right exactly why we took some.

Speaker 2

She's just like I don't know what to do like I can't feed him food. You know, it's not like I can chew it up and regurgitate it like a bird like there's, just like. It's nuts, so I'm thinking like there should be almost like a formula bank or something at the airport.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no there really should be. I mean they have there's nursing rooms there, you know yeah.

Speaker 2

They have a nursing. They have like mom pods, nursing rooms and like they should have like a formula station.

Speaker 1

I mean, you can still buy it like have formula there.

Speaker 2

It's mind-boggling that they don't, and maybe they do what I just noticed, but I I feel like you're definitely needs to be like Something to help.

Speaker 1

I mean it could be. It could be literally like a formula vending machine in there. Yes, you know, and it all it has to be okay, jess.

Speaker 2

This is what we need to invent. This is our new idea. Nobody steal it and it's trademarked. We are making formula vending machines for the airport.

Speaker 1

Oh, my gosh, gosh, but really like something so simple and it's very specific, obviously, but it's what we need as moms. I mean, yeah, these horror stories wouldn't be With something so simple, and I mean it doesn't have to be, you know, like a hundred vending machines in one. Oh yeah, airport, you put them with the. You know the, the breastfeeding rooms are the? Yeah.

Speaker 2

The family, yeah well, they even be in like they have so many stores in there, I just have like a vending machine of or sell formula there.

Speaker 1

You know I mean it's just there's something, and the other part to that, though, is like you almost have to. I mean, I get like the stocking of it is an issue, and all of that because there are so many and there's so many.

Speaker 2

But in the thing is, though, like in a dire situation. You will be okay, you know right, like giving your kids something. I know there are certain things like special formulas that certain kids have to have and yeah, like maybe that's something that could be accommodated. But in a like dire situation, if you just have like a few options of formula there in case you absolutely Needed something, yeah, I mean that would be helpful. I mean they carry diapers.

Speaker 1

Do they? I've never looked. I found diapers there.

Speaker 2

That was one thing that I definitely overpacked. But then I took you could go to a store when you got there and get diapers. But I was like I just need to make sure I have Enough. I don't know if he's gonna pee a bunch on the plane or yeah.

Speaker 1

I'm glad I didn't really remember in Texas and they're way home to change Taylor.

Speaker 2

Because she had a blowout. Oh Well, that's the other thing another tip that I found with bow is what we did when we flew From Grand Rapids to San Diego. We did have like a layover flight, but what I did was I Let Brett get on the plane first with like all of our stuff, yeah, and then I let bow. Bo couldn't walk at this point, but I was just kind of walking around with him.

Speaker 2

I didn't want him to crawl on like the dirty ground yeah but I just kept him off the plane as long as I could, so he wasn't sitting on me in the plane for an extra 45 minutes while everyone's boarding, because that's like added on to our already like four-hour flight or whatever it was.

Traveling With Kids and Distractions

Speaker 2

So I just waited until like the last possible minute to get on the plane and that was super helpful. And then when we were like taking off and landing, I would breastfeed him, even if he like wasn't like hungry. I would just do that so his ears wouldn't pop. Yeah, that's second perfect idea. So that helped. But just like small things like that, and again, like I got some new toys for him, I got like sticky things for him to put on the window. I got like a suction kind of like fidget spinner that he spun on the window. And then I got Painters tape which was like the best one. You can use it to like at your Airbnb, you can use it to like baby proof things and like cover outlets and like you know, like tape doors shut or whatever and I saw this on Instagram, but then they just like pulled the you know they just, yeah, no damage.

Speaker 2

And I just he would just pull the painter's tape off the window or off the chair or whatever and was, you know it's sticky. It was fun, like he loved it, and Then he did sleep a little bit, but on the way home from San Diego we had like a later flight and I thought he would just sleep. Well, luckily our flight wasn't like a sleeping flight because he was.

Speaker 2

Awake, ready to go. Like, of course, he was like smiling at everybody, like not yelling but, like you know, cooing and like making noise at everybody and he just had like the whole area of the plane, like just like Staring at us and playing with him and I'm like I thought people, you know, it was like 11 PM flight, I thought he was gonna just sleep and everyone's quiet and the lights are not. Luckily, everyone was talking by us and like the lights Were on and they were reading and I'm like thank God, because this kid is like ready to go, he is like that time chain lay in with everybody.

Speaker 2

There was one moment that like I, almost like I Was pretty calm. There was one time where he just like on the way there, I had my earbuds in and he was standing up and he was getting kind of antsy it was close to being done but not quite, you know, landing that and he was just getting that antsy feeling and he kind of was throwing his toys back. And then I Hit, like the guy behind us. I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry and I'm like Brett, stop giving him toys. Well, he threw it again and the guy kept picking it up and giving it to us. It was a younger guy and then, like bow, like hit my ear and my earbud fell out and it went down the little crack on the seat and I'm like, like I was like oh my god, about ready to lose my kid.

Speaker 2

I'm like Brett you've got to take him. And then the guy was like, oh, did you drop your earbud? I saw it like go down there. And I'm like great, it's gonna be at like the front of the plane. I'm gonna be that person left behind on the plane trying to find their air pod that fell out. And so then, luckily, the guys like I see it, I can't reach it right now, but I'll grab it, like when the plane Was good he was so nice.

Speaker 2

I'm just like, oh, my god, thank you so much. I am so sorry he's like no, no, he was great. Honestly, it was funny. I'm like, okay, he's a little brilliant. He honestly was really good on both flights. He just had that like one moment and I'm like, if that's the only moment you had like the whole time, like that was great.

Speaker 3

It was the first time flying.

Speaker 2

It was our first time flying with him Like we were just like what do we do like?

Speaker 1

you know, I just kind of got a wing it. Yeah, I mean, there really isn't anything you're you're at the mercy of.

Speaker 2

I Know it's happening when I'm like I hope his ears don't hurt. You know kind of he just who knows? But yeah, he did great, he did great I think just Snacks, toys, yeah, distractions, trying to be as prepared as possible, but yeah, there's always there's always gonna be something and you just kind of got a Roll with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's the one thing I've always realized is not to be overly stressed about the situation, because they feed off of that. You know, when you're your tense, they're gonna be tense and yeah, it makes the thing can just feel that energy.

Speaker 1

You know, I feel like if I'm bad with that, because I do get tense, but I'm working on it, aren't we all? I'm working on it. I've gotten worse in my older age, I've noticed I tend to I Don't know freak out first and then calm down later, like instead of you know, I don't know, yeah, but I Think it's with the older kids. I think it's just like you know better. Why can't you just, you know, get your act together and just you have higher expectations for older kids and I

Speaker 2

shouldn't like when they don't meet those expectations. You're just like what's wrong with you. You're sorry.

Speaker 1

You know, you know, you know the drill. I mean, like with them. I think one of the biggest things with them on a plane is like having something for them to color. It is so, oh yeah, like coloring, like just whether it's colored pencils and one of those really intricate, you know yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, like that seems to be like the hot thing right now. Mm-hmm, I don't, I mean, it used to be in the car. You remember the ones that you'd get the little book with the mark one marker that would change like the color would show. Oh, yeah, like this Taylor still loves those.

Speaker 2

It's so funny. That's great, though. I mean at least like that's something that's you know, not a screen, not you know. It's something that she can be creative with. But that's the thing too. It's like, if you have to use your screen, use the screen time like I care, you know. That's like we just have to get through sometimes, and I feel like Now especially.

Speaker 2

There's so much controversy on screen time and it has electronics, yeah, and it's like you know, it has its place and sometimes, like you, you just have to Overuse it. You know, yeah, there are just things where you just have to get through a Little bit of time and it's okay, like, yeah, we're not something else that they can be doing?

Speaker 3

I mean, it's not like single-outside play.

Speaker 1

We're driving, you know right or we're flying or whatever. You know that they can't leave. I think music helps too. So if they put music on and they're not watching, something like Hayden will do that She'll listen to, put her AirPods in and she'll listen to music. And they? That's funny because you know they're both in the backseat and they put up a pillow all so that they have their boundaries and they don't look. Okay that's what I did.

Speaker 2

I listened to music all the time in the car, like when we went with Brett's parents to Colorado there oh and I just listened to my music on my phone literally the entire time and like slept yeah, and his mom's, like you guys are so boring, like you're just listening to your music and I'm like I One kind of car sick to I don't want to talk the whole time, and then three, it's like what else am I gonna do? It's just like an 18 hour car ride.

Speaker 2

We have plenty of time to talk like we can talk later, like we have lots of time. I just need to like chill, listen to my music, distract myself. And I did that to Florida. When we went in high school, mom and dad were like all four of them Just like we're listening to music. They barely talked and they were all sleeping and, of course, like I sleep all the time, just like that's what you got to do to distract yourself, where you'll go crazy in the car for like 24 hours.

Speaker 2

I always did that and then, there were no, like tablets or no stuff like that.

Speaker 1

I had that little Sony CD player with the headphones and the third row of the suburban. Remember when yeah, because you guys had the TV. That was that in between the two front chairs.

Speaker 2

But yeah, we never had like portable DVD players. We had that TV, that portable TV that you stuck in between yeah, you are rush us. Yeah, that was before they all the new cars have like.

Speaker 2

System Well in like quite honestly, like I just think back to like our childhood and like how things are now and I'm just like I Would love to like be able to raise my kids how we were raised, like back in the 90s, because it's like there wasn't. We weren't Watching TV all the time, there wasn't no like iPads and texting and all these phone things, and I think we played PlayStation every now and then, like in the winter or they'd kick us out.

Speaker 2

Be like no, you need to go outside, it's nice out. You're not watching TV, you're not watching a PlayStation, like like go, and we just like Made up games, right, made up stuff. We were outside. I'm like I feel like kids don't do that as much anymore because they have all of this stuff. You know that they can use exactly stuff. I feel like what Bret and I like who knows what will actually happen when they're at that age? But we'd like to like Limit as much of that kind of stuff as we can.

Speaker 1

Brett likes his games not anymore.

Speaker 2

No no, he doesn't play.

Speaker 1

Oh, that's good. No, I mean he used to play that all the time.

Speaker 2

Well, okay, this is a not, he was never a video game guy. And then, when Alex moved to California, that was their way of like connecting, because it's a three-hour time difference, so they play each other Booty or whatever. It was because I bought him the Xbox for Christmas and I deeply regretted it. But I did it because he's like I want to play with Alex, like yeah, all this stuff. And then I'm like God, why did I do?

Speaker 3

that.

Speaker 2

Because he just became like obsessed with it, yeah, and so now, like he does not play, it anymore, Rachel's not gonna have that I don't even think, alex really plays that much anymore.

Strategies for Traveling With Kids

Speaker 2

I really don't know. But Brett and Alex don't play together like Alex or Brett's not anymore. But yeah, there was. He did go through a phase and I was like I am going to throw this Xbox off this apartment Deck where we were living at the time. I'm like I am Getting rid of this thing, but no, not so much anymore. But, um, you know, there's like Perfect example this morning, like my sister's over here watching Bo and she brought her son Bennett and they were just Not Cooperating and all the stuff. And I'm like you know, I've been seeing all this like miss Rachel stuff online, like let's just throw on miss Rachel. So I like caved and went to TV and then I I turn on miss Rachel and they both stop crying and look and I have been fine ever since. Like she didn't leave it on the whole time, naturally, but it calmed them down and they watched it and I'm just like, okay, well, let me bite my tongue here for a second, because I just put TV on to calm my kid down.

Speaker 1

You gotta do you gotta do sometimes. I yeah, I just have to be intentional with it, I guess.

Speaker 2

But yeah, there is a time and a place for it, so can't completely and traveling, I feel like there's leeway on that, like traveling, there's leeway on the screen time, traveling in the car, traveling on the plane, like different ages too, like require different things and different leniencies. And I think that just being like prepared as you can be, but also just know that you're gonna have to be flexible and things are not gonna go like you planned and I think for me that can be hard sometimes because I'm such like a planner and if it does not go the way it's supposed to go, it's like ugh. But I feel like, since having Bo and like dealing with those situations with a kid, I'm much better. But when it's like just like me and Brett, I like have a higher expectation I guess.

Speaker 1

But I think, just being prepared as you can be, but definitely be flexible, have all the toys, have all the snacks yeah you know, one of the things that I've started to do is I pack the girls like a bag of random things, like they each get a little bag.

Speaker 1

Even now, like when we drove to Chicago over Christmas, you know, we they have a bag of like new things, like you were saying new toys, but it's just like coloring books or it's, you know, like the snacks, like I got a special popcorn or I got like these little cheese puffs that were supposed to be like snowman poop or reindeer thing, like just funny things, and we'll put them in there and everything's new. They've never seen it. It's, you know, intriguing to them. And then I always put in there like a little craft, like something they can do in there. Obviously we're not getting the hot glue going out and making some kind of crazy bead concoction, but something in there that they can, you know, like it's those, maybe an ornament that you actually have to like sew around with the you know, the big plastic needle and just put it together. And there was just something that is like it has some thought to it.

Speaker 2

You have like an outcome.

Speaker 1

like you have something, yeah, like you gotta put a little teeny bit of stuffing in it and then you know it's just, it's super easy, but it's just something that's a little bit more than coloring and it's, but you don't have to read. You know, like I don't know, just something to fill in all of those moments that they seem to have in the you know backseat, because they never you never know what they're going to feel, I know but it just depends on the day.

Travel Packing Tips and Hacks

Speaker 2

One day they might be fine traveling, and then the next like they could just be having a day where they are just like super antsy. They don't want to be in the car. They're grumpy Like you don't know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I always get them a new movie too, and I made a huge mistake because this was a Christmas trip of getting them Prancer. Do you remember Prancer? Oh, yeah, taylor started watching it and she yelled at me and she's like Mom, why would you ever let me watch this movie? What's wrong with it? It was just a terrible movie, apparently. Like, oh, she just didn't like it Because they were going to kill Prancer and all of this. Well, it is a bit, yeah, but they didn't. They didn't. And this is an old movie from when we were kids and we watched and I thought this would be perfect. You know it's a good story. She was angry, like I mean angry, it was something.

Speaker 2

But yeah, well, one thing that I have found with traveling, whether you're driving or you're flying, when it comes to like packing, I have started and this is not my idea I have started packing bow in like the shoe can holders that you put on the back of a door that just hang, I like will roll up his clothes and put them in there. I did that going to San Diego and I do it, honestly, every time I go anywhere with him now and it goes in one side of my suitcase or you can do their own suitcase and it's literally like you just will take it out and hang it on the door and you're done.

Speaker 2

He's like unpacked, they're all rolled up. You can roll them up by outfit, like it was perfect, and then it keeps you organized when you're at your Airbnb or you're at whoever's house, and it's perfect.

Speaker 3

I literally packed that way all the time and it's the shoe size one. I mean they're like yeah.

Speaker 2

It's like the normal size, like, just like clear plastic thing you hang on the back of your door. I think I had one to put beanie babies in at one point. Yeah, yeah, I just roll up his clothes and I put them in there.

Speaker 2

I even put like extra diapers and wipes and like socks and whatever in there, and then it just literally folds right into like a side of your suitcase. This is what I did in San Diego, and then I packed in the other half, and then With all your black that you can't find anything in. Yeah, black's my color, if you can't tell, but that has been a huge packing hack that I've got that makes it so you have everything, you can see everything, you're not digging around in a suitcase.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I hate the digging around. Then I'm like it's not getting wrinkled.

Speaker 2

You can see all your outfits, and that was the other thing with San Diego. We had a wedding and we had all these other events we had to go to, so I'm like I could visually plan out each outfit and put them in there, and I had other options and just regular clothes and bathing suits and stuff for him. So that packing worked out so well that I will never go back to just throwing his stuff in a bag and then you can do one for each kid, depending on if it's a longer trip.

Speaker 3

I like that a lot.

Speaker 2

Or if it's a short weekend trip, you could probably fit two kids in one. Just depends on what you need Shoot.

Speaker 1

you could even label it if you want to, oh yeah. If you want to get real fancy, you can label it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I know you're a labeler.

Speaker 1

I am a labeler.

Speaker 2

I mean you can get cuter ones. I got a cheap one off Amazon or whatever.

Speaker 1

But you can make it as simple or as organized.

Speaker 2

Yeah, oh yeah, you can be as simple or as fancy as you want, but it is amazing. It's great. That's. My one big tip is use that to pack your kids, because it's been a life-changing experience for me.

Speaker 1

I like that. I think that beats out mine because I was gonna say I like. When we went to Disney a few years back, we used the different sized like little bags to put everything in and it worked okay. But the problem was you couldn't see in it. And I actually think what you're saying is better, because you can see, because we did it by outfit.

Speaker 1

So like I every day- and you can label if you want, you can label, because they, you know like it worked well for the bigger clothes and I, you know we had like two outfits in each, so like each side was an outfit, but I'm wondering if yours would save more room. Oh yeah, it definitely did.

Speaker 2

And then I could even fit my big suitcase that I use. It even had a little bit of extra room on the side of that part of the suitcase where I could put his thicker sleep sack or a blanket or more of my stuff that I was taking Because we had to take so much stuff just because we were going to be there over a week. But that saved so much space because it was all in one spot.

Speaker 1

And then when I got to the Airbnb I just literally took it out, hung on the door and he was ready to go, Because it's nothing that I never do when I'm just ready.

Speaker 2

Well, that's the thing and you don't have to unpack him. Or if there's not a dresser or whatever there, you don't have to live out of your suitcase, it's up there. I know, I know what I ever do dressers because I always forget.

Speaker 1

I don't for one. Other people do it and I'm funny about that. And then two I'm afraid I'm going to leave something behind. Yeah.

Speaker 2

I know I'm just funny. When we went to San Diego we were lucky because this specific Airbnb had two pack-in-plays baby gates, all that kind of stuff. But one travel hack I did do was Bret and I got his mom got us for Christmas this compactable stroller that we wanted and it literally folds up into a square. It has a bag.

Speaker 2

That's cool we used it as a carry-on, so we didn't want to bring our big stroller because there was a stroller there that we were going to use if we needed it. But this one, literally, you just go flinging it out and it all connects Check it out.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the only thing about this one that I ended up realizing was an issue it didn't have a big canopy. In San Diego there's Sunny, and so when I used that one to walk in the morning, I had to have a blanket or something over it once it got sunny, because it wasn't protecting him enough. But there are other ones that have bigger canopies. They might just not be as compact, but it was perfect for going around the airport and stuff like that, and you can fold it up, put it on as a carry-on which was great, not taking the big old one.

Speaker 1

You remember me taking the big old honker.

Speaker 2

Well, and then I mean I've heard so many people say the airline broke their stroller and all this stuff, it's all dirty, and I'm just like I mean I could do that and luckily we had a stroller there that we could use. Yeah, that's nice, because they knew we were coming. They asked their friends if they had strollers that we could use.

Speaker 3

Oh, that's perfect. And the.

Speaker 2

Airbnb had. That's the thing If you do have friends or family that have friends. We didn't really know anyone in San Diego, but Brett's brother and his fiance and her family and friends were there, so they knew what we were going to need and asked if they could borrow certain things. So we got a stroller. That's a good tip too, just to ask yeah, and they weren't using it that weekend or they could go without it. That weekend.

Speaker 1

Right, or they have extra, or they have two. Maybe they can use the smaller one or whatever.

Speaker 2

So that's something that you can do is just ask your family or have them ask their friends, because Alex and Rachel don't have kids yet, so they didn't have anything. So they asked their friends and then got us the stroller. And then the Airbnb was great because it had everything there. But I brought a little like fold up high chair thing for Bo Just to have at the Airbnb because he could sit in like you know a high chair or something if we went out. But it was really nice because there was nothing there. That was the one thing. They didn't have a high chair or anything there.

Speaker 2

Which I was kind of surprised about because they had literally everything else.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they had everything else. Usually that's the first thing they have. I know they had multiple pack in place.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they had multiple pack in place, multiple mattresses for the pack in play and they had baby gates like three or four baby gates, but they didn't have.

Speaker 1

I wonder if they were left there from people that had.

Speaker 2

Well, honestly, they could have been, they very well could have been. So I brought this one and it was just he was 10 months at that time, so I just put him in and it wasn't like it was on the counter one. And I'm so glad I brought it because he just ate every meal there, because otherwise I would have had to hold him or something.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I was like that one that hooked on the table or the counter. It folded flat I had that one for Hayden, I think, and I love that because it would fit pretty much anywhere and you just secured it on there.

Speaker 2

Yep, you can take it to restaurants, you can have it outside. We had it at.

Speaker 1

Murth. I mean, I used it at home. It was, like I said, it folded flat so you could put it in a bag or you could carry it with you. It was so convenient. It was a great, great concoction.

Speaker 2

I know like traveling in itself can be expensive, but then getting the things to make it easier can also be kind of expensive. So you just kind of have to like pick and choose what's most important for you in that trip Because I could have gone nuts on stuff that I'm like, oh yeah, this would be great. I could totally use that.

Speaker 1

But how many times are you going to use it? Do you just going to use it once while you're there, or is it going to be like everyday?

Speaker 2

thing. Well, that's the thing. You have to pick and choose what's most important. What am I going to use for just this trip? What can I use in the future? And you just kind of got to decide what's important to invest in.

Speaker 1

You're even renting the things.

Speaker 2

If you're going to rent them, make sure you're only getting the things you really need, not stuff that would just make your life super, super easy, and that was part of the thing of me deciding OK, I'm not going to rent because I didn't need enough stuff, and the stuff that I did need I'm like I could use this again. I'm just going to buy it.

Speaker 2

And I've used that little high chair thing a million times. So it's like you just kind of got to decide what's easiest for you and your family and your budget and what you ultimately want. Do you want to be able to keep it? Do you want to be able to return it? Do you want to be able to just rent it and not deal with it? So I think it's all just kind of on what you need in that moment when you're traveling. But I think Brett and I will definitely do a lot more car trips with our kids, just because flying is really expensive.

Speaker 1

It is and it's paying for everything there.

Speaker 2

Bo's a good traveler.

Speaker 3

Bo's a very good traveler.

Speaker 2

He's a good car traveler. He was a pretty good plane traveler too. But I think a lot of the time if we do plane trips, it'll be to go see family and then, when we want to take cool family vacations and go see Mount Rushmore or go wherever, we want to go. So we at least know and are prepared to be able to travel in the car, because I feel like people can be very scared of traveling in the car and I was one of them and I still kind of am about this Colorado trip.

Speaker 2

But I'm going to try and just be positive about it and be like you know what, if we want to take family trips, like budget-wise car trips are like for us and we live in Michigan.

Speaker 1

There's so many places that we can go and the only thing with a car trip is that you have to take extra days off to get where you're traveling.

Speaker 2

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1

That's the only thing and that's what I always pay attention to, Because we're going to Florida for spring break. Well, so that means DJ has unless we figure it just right, he's going to have one or two days extra off of work each way. So we're actually going to drive all the way through because it's when we figure I think it's going to be 16 hours to where we're going and we're going to leave probably Saturday, like 1, 2 o'clock in the morning. So we're actually only going to be gone until the following Friday, so we'll get there.

Speaker 2

So you have two travel days basically.

Speaker 1

We do, but we made it so that the travel days are kind of on the weekend.

Speaker 2

So you have a day when you get back?

Speaker 1

Yeah, but if we were doing a full week at this place that we're renting, we would have had to leave on Thursday, because we would have done Friday to Friday.

Speaker 2

Well, that's what we're doing with Colorado. We're leaving on a Friday and then we're getting back on a Saturday or a Sunday, but that's because we have to stop.

Speaker 3

We can't drive straight through.

Speaker 2

So that's the other thing you have to budget too, if you have to stop and get a hotel halfway through, yeah, so there's extra things.

Tips for Traveling With Kids

Speaker 1

But it's still cheaper than flying for a family of three, it is Well, right, well, and we're a family of four. So then you're going to be a family of four, so it's only going to get more expensive for you, Well, and?

Speaker 2

now it's like you can't have Bo as a Lat Baby anymore. I mean, I think I don't know the rules Now. I heard they were changing them at some point where you have to bring a car seat on the plane now for kids, but I'm not sure if that's a thing. But Bo, now I don't think I could have as a Lat Baby, even though I think you can have him as a Lat Baby until they're like two. He would not sit with me, he wouldn't sit with me.

Speaker 3

No, he's mobile.

Speaker 2

Like we would have to get another seat for him and then the new baby we could have as a Lat Baby. But then you have a Lat Baby and then you have to deal with your other kid.

Speaker 1

You can't sit that one anyway.

Speaker 2

So it's like Brett would have to be with Bo and I would have to just take care of the baby, which is fine, but that's still your pain for three people to fly.

Speaker 1

You get four seats so going and you can't be together anymore.

Speaker 2

So then you're going to be like two or three, You're two and two, and then you're with some moreando which I hate, right, or you have to go first class. Honestly, it's like I really don't want to sit by anybody else, can I please just have first class? Well, I mean, some of them are two, like the Grand Rapids, like the smaller planes are two. But like the bigger planes, no, like you definitely have three so then it's like oh well, well, when we were you sick.

Speaker 2

Are you going to get my kids sick? Are you coughing? I'm just like yeah.

Speaker 1

When we went to Disney I upgraded us to first class. It wasn't terribly expensive when we got the offer or whatever, but part of the reason I was OK with it was because I didn't want to have that weirdness, because it was either DJ set by himself and we sat three of us or you do a, two and two, or are we? Yeah, and I wasn't good with any, so I'm like you know what, I'm just doing this. We sat in first class.

Speaker 2

I mean, if you can afford to, I would do the same thing. It's like the thing is with me. It's like I would put the kid by the window then, if I could, and sit in the middle, which is always not the most comfortable. But then I'm like I don't want my kid bothering the other person and touching them or them touching them, and then you're just trying to have a barrier but then you're bumping into them because you're trying to get in the bag I have this phobia of OK, I don't want to be trapped in with somebody at the aisle if something happens, If you have to pee, you're like.

Speaker 1

Excuse me If you've got to get off the plane for some reason, if there is an issue and you all got to get off and this person won't hurry up, or move or whatever.

Speaker 2

I have the same control issue. When you can deplane and you're next to someone, who is the person that will sit there until everyone gets off. I'm like, no, I want to get off the plane now. Move your ass. Like why are you sitting down? It's our turn. All these people in front of us have gone it's our aisle, and then you're half standing up with a knee on your seat and you're just like, can you move?

Speaker 2

Because you can't stand all the way up because the overhead compartment Well especially if you have a connecting flight and you're like, oh my god, I need to go. That's the only thing. I would prefer an aisle seat for that reason, because I am a control freak, but I literally push Brett out Like I'm like, Brett, hurry up Go.

Speaker 1

Let's go, let's move, let's move.

Speaker 2

And he's like I'm moving, I can't go, and I'm like, ok, oh my gosh, good grief, that's my control issues.

Speaker 1

OK, so we've kind of again gone down another little rabbit hole. We started with tips and things with traveling with kids, which we didn't go completely off this time. No, it's all traveling, it is all travel related. We're still on a plane, we're still talking about travel things, or in a car All right.

Speaker 2

Planes, trains and automobiles. You can do it all we can, we can.

Speaker 1

We can All right, I think that kind of does it for my tips. What about you? Do you have anything?

Speaker 2

else. No, I think that's it. I think you just need to remember that it is something fun for your family and try not to overthink it. Try to be as prepared as possible, but also know things are going to come up and you just kind of got to go with it.

Speaker 1

Be flexible, be flexible, have fun. And remember you're there to make memories.

Embracing Life's Journey Together

Speaker 2

Like core memories. You're there for the memories and now we can laugh at these catastrophes, or funny things that happen. But in the moment it might not seem as funny, but just know you are making memories during all of the travel ups and downs and it's just a good time for you to spend with your family. 100%.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

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Until then, keep embracing your unique journey and remember you've got it together more than you think.