Episode 69: Operation Gladio, Part 2

I continue my review of the BBC's 1992 docuseries on Operation Gladio, which is horrifying. One of the participants says that the goal was to inflict violence on civilians, women, and children to scare the general public. Absolutely disgusting.

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Operation Gladio, BBC Docu series, Bologna bombing, Neo-fascist groups, Strategy of tension, Italian secret services, Piazza Fontana, P2 Masonic Lodge, Charlie India Alpha, State of emergency, Political motives, Cover-up, National security, Gladio recruits, Secret services.

Welcome to con-sara-cy theories. Are you ready to ask questions you shouldn't and find information you're not supposed to know? Well, you're in the right place. Here is your host, Sara Causey.

Hello, hello, and thanks for tuning in. In tonight's episode, I will be talking about the second installment of the BBC Docuseries on Operation Gladio. This one is titled the puppeteers. If that sounds dark and ominous, well, to be honest with you, it is as a bit of housekeeping, if you stumbled across this episode and you have not listened to part one, where I discuss in more general terms about what Operation Gladio was, and then I also discuss episode one of the BBC Docu series. I would highly recommend that you check that out first. This episode will make a lot more sense. It'll be easier to follow along with. If you have heard episode one, I'll drop a link, of course, so you can find that quickly and easily. In the meantime, we will saddle up and take this ride, or it might be better called a descent into hell. As I said in my review of part one, I am going to do my best with place names and personal names. I don't speak every European language, so I'm going to try my absolute best. At the beginning of Episode Two, Harry Mitchell tells us my daughter had gone on holiday with her boyfriend on August 2, they were killed in the Bologna train station bombing, the narrator tells us, in 1980 a bomb exploded at the Bologna railway station, which killed 86 people. Six years later, a report revealed the existence of an invisible government in Italy run by the state secret services and groups of political T words. It also identified a secret organization under which Neo fascist groups were allowed to commit atrocities against civilians for political motives. I told you we were on a descent into hell. Senator Libero Gualtieri, we were to deal with unsolved acts of T word, starting with the first major bombing in the Piazza Fontana, then the attacks on trains, from the one in breccia to the massacre at bologna station, and lesser attacks with fewer victims such as petiano. Vincenzo vensaguerra, petiano was an act of war with a very simple motive, the police forces, the security forces and those political groups which make use of the secret services and the security forces have manipulated Italian Neo fascism. They have been doing this for a long time, ever since 1945 or 46 petiano was born as an act of revolt against this manipulation, a retaliation against the state. The narrator tells us, on May 31 1972 the coronaviru in petiano received a phone call, and this man, this anonymous caller, says, I want to inform you that a car with bullet holes in the windscreen is parked on the road from posato fermata to Savonia. Three policemen were lured to a car rigged to explode. All three were killed. Vincenzo, again, when you were on the right, you were not supposed to attack the state or its representatives. You were supposed to attack civilians, women, children, innocent people outside the political arena for one simple reason, to force the Italian public to turn to the state, turn to the regime and ask for greater security. This was precisely the role of the right in Italy. It placed itself at the service of the state, which created a strategy, aptly called the strategy of tension, in so far as they had to get people to accept that at any moment, over a period of 30 years, from 1960 to the mid 1980s a state of emergency could be declared so people would willingly trade part of their freedom for the security of being able to walk the streets, to go on trains or enter a bank. This is the political logic behind all the bombings. They remain unpunished because the state cannot condemn itself. Wow. Targeting civilians, women and children. How diabolical that is. Gualtieri, again, in all the cases, the judges noticed a certain amount of interference. In some cases, very heavy interference on the part of the services, police, security and the organs of the state, instead of helping the magistrates, they were messing with the record so that the truth would not come out. Judge Felice Casson, the clandestine structures inside the Italian Secret Service first came to light in 1984 as the result of certain revelations. Vincenzo Vinci. Disclosed during a trial that these structures had links to the Charlie India alpha and Western secret services. I don't doubt it a bit general Gerardo Sara Vale, there were bombers in particular, Vincenzo, Vinci Guerra, the self professed perpetrator of the petiano bombing, who described to judge Casson in 1984 the structure of Gladio with such precision and in such detailed terms, it could have been the declaration of Prime Minister Andreotti. Years later, the gladiators who were enrolled received certain information, bits of information, which increased over time. We didn't tell them everything directly from the start. It was all strictly on a need to know basis. We told them what they had to know, and nothing about the NATO links that one of the bombers never contacted or recruited by Gladio. Can describe it in such detail, makes me think there was, in fact, a sort of underground system which knew about the arms deposits and the clandestine structures which acted under the cover of an official structure. Vincenzo, again, how did I know about these structures? I was part of ordinai nuovo, which is nothing other than an organization linked to the Italian secret services. Gualtieri. Again, for 40 years, everything has been done to keep Gladio a secret. It is a miracle that Italy, which is not known for keeping secrets, managed to keep this secret. Wow. So in my personal notes I've written, this reminds me of Ted Bauer's article from medium and the podcast episode I did titled, someone would talk. Yes, people talk. They may keep a secret while they feel like their own personal life or the lives of their family is depending on them keeping their mouth shut. But over the course of time, yes, people talk and then, as Jim Garrison pointed out, they get discredited, removed or killed. The documentary takes us to Sardinia, to an area where Gladio recruits were trained. It was called the Center for sabotage training inio de colay, Italian, Gladio member, 1959 to 1991 I was at capo. Mera Gui marigu, meragui Trying my best for the first time in 1959 I didn't know where I was because we were transported in planes with blacked out windows. It was under a department called the Office for research. The R office, normally they train spies and special units. I was an employee in the counter espionage section, and it was under command of the D office. Both the D and R offices were controlled by the Italian secret services. I've written in my personal notes that is a long time to be in Gladio. 59 to 91 decimal Gural. They arrived in a disguised plane and were transferred to a disguised coach. They were dropped off in front of their quarters. Then the training would start. We gave them the idea of an organization. We told them that it was top secret. Their names would not be revealed, and very few people would know of its existence for a couple of hours, we used them how to show we showed them how to use explosives, but they never touched them. Our experts were the only ones who would handle these things. In my personal notes I've written, when we hear something like this, it's easy to assume we're talking about groups of idiots or rag tag teams of nobodies who were often some remote part of Italy, LARPing that they were in the military, but that really belies the reality we have to remember that people like Klaus, Barbie and the Black Prince were also stay behinds. So I think it's dangerous to assume that Gladio was just one big nothing burger that had no serious consequences for anybody. Mark Wyatt, I never attended the stay behind base in Sardinia at a time when training was actually going on the times when I visited, it was very much a VIP trip. The Italians are very much for VIP. Everything ran very smoothly. I had the greatest admiration for the men out at the base. In my personal notes, I've written to the BBC credit as Mark is sitting there talking and sounding like some kind of scripted wanker. In my opinion, they are showing videos of dudes in ski masks, pouring out of a car and firing weapons and looking very much like they are rehearsing a T word attack. But hey, he respects them. He was a VIP. Sara Vale again, as soon as I had taken over charge of my section, probably due to my military record as a commander, I was used to knowing all of my men. My initial aim was to meet some of these men, now called gladiators. These men having been trained for a possible domestic intervention, thought this intervention should be anticipated or at least planned. Four in the event of an imminent invasion, so as to prohibit the so called collaborators of the Warsaw Pact from acting behind the backs of the resistance. I've written in my personal notes, Hitler had a fascination with ancient Rome and the idea of the Roman Empire, so the language here, to me, is very interesting to call this program Gladio and to refer to the stay behind Nazis and fascists as Gladiators, seems intentional. Vincenzo again, ordinai nuovo never had its own ideology. They called themselves National Socialists, but their boss, Pino rowdy, worked for the armed forces and was an Italian Secret Services expert and recruited men for these parallel structures, and we go now to Pino, rowdy, head of ordene nuovo. Instead of a frontal attack, they have put a war machine in the structures of Western governments. General Paolo in Sara Lee, commander of Gladio, 1974 to 1986 some magistrates believe that the explosives that were found in one of the arms caches might have been used on the attack at petiano, Padre giusciano, parish priest. I was forewarned in the afternoon when two journalists from il gazzatino asked me if I knew anything about arms deposits here at the church. They started to dig right here and found two boxes straight away, the text also said at 30 centimeters from the window. So they came over here and dug down. One box was kept aside by them because it contained a phosphorus balm. They sent the Carabinieri outside with while two experts opened this box, another had two machine boom sticks in it. All the boom sticks were new, in perfect shape. They had never been used in my notes I've written the church he is standing in front of is tiny. It's almost more like a chapel than a church, and it looks to be in a wooded remote area, waltie area, again, regional commanders were told to confuse the magistrates. They were to say the boomsticks came from smugglers or from the Germans, knowing full well they were Gladio boomsticks. Vincenzo again, after the attack at petiano, a mechanism was put in place, which was used in all such cases, a mechanism of cover up. The Carabinieri, the Minister of the Interior, the Customs and Excise police, the civilian and military secret services, all knew the truth behind the attack, that I was responsible and all this within 20 days. So they decided, for totally political reasons, to cover it up. There's a commentator here that's unknown. If they flashed his name up, they must have done it quickly, because I didn't see it referring to documents that I have seen from before my time. There doesn't seem to have been an investigation or a ballistics expert sent for I know exactly who general Sara Vali sent to aracina, an officer of the Coronavirus was sent to simply report on the situation. Gualtieri, again, from this chance discovery of the arms cache at aracina, Sara Vale and his chief Fortunato, who was head of the section dealing with foreign espionage, took the decision to dismantle all 139 arms caches. They took this decision informing the head of the secret services, but without, it seems telling the government or the Americans, general Sara Vale was to meet with Howard stone, the chief of the Rome, Charlie, India, Alpha Station. Sara Vale Stone had come over because I asked him to when I took over command. I noticed that the American financing agreed in the bilateral Accords, in particular, the shipping of material and armaments to us had stopped. I didn't understand why, and they wouldn't give me an explanation. So I called this meeting in order to find out why they had stopped sending us the supplies. After months of maneuvering on both diplomatic and military fronts, I could finally invite stone and said naui to the base on Sardinia. I said to them, this is our training center, etc. You could help us achieve our full potential. So why cut our aid? If this is your government's position, we accept it, but you owe us an explanation. I realized that the Charlie India Alpha interest, as represented by these officials, weren't really concerned with the level we had reached in training, but rather on the subject of internal control, that is our level of readiness to counter street disturbances, handling nationwide strikes and any eventual rise of the Communist Party. Written in my personal notes, what did you think was going to happen when you make a deal with the devil. The devil is the one who dictates terms, not you. That's first of all. Secondly, I want you to really hear what he's saying, counter street disturbances and handle nationwide strikes. Why would you need a cluster of Nazis and Italian fascists to counter street level disturbances and handle nationwide strikes? I. Now whether he means nationwide employment strikes or some sort of military strike against the country, Judge for yourself. I'm inclined to think there may be a double entendre there, because in the event of a military strike, you would call out the actual legitimate front facing military so I really think he means a double entendre there that also includes employment strikes. There's a conflation of people having a walkout or a nationwide strike with an employer being into full tilt communism. Why would the American Charlie India Alpha want to involve itself in street level disturbances or strikes in other nations and have a team of fascists ready to put them down. To me, this is horrifying. Gualtieri again, when Gladio started, especially in the 1960s it was very active. The Americans would often bring up in the meetings, in the briefings, the need to use the structures to counter any internal uprising. But this episode soon ended, because in 1966 the Charlie India alpha, started to realize that it was no longer necessary to rely just on these structures, and in fact, eased off the pressure in Italy, Germany and Belgium, as for the question of how much the carbonari knew, and in particular, in particular the carbony station in the Northeast, where Gladio had its greatest presence, I have to say that they knew virtually everything. Sara volley again, Mr. Stone stated quite clearly that the financial support of the Charlie India Alpha was wholly dependent on our willingness to put into action to program and plan these other internal measures. I said that this was not in the orders for the stay behinds, nor had it been foreseen by Gladio when the original discussions took place in zarrilly. Again, arms were kept in carbony headquarters and army barracks. The system that they used to collect these arms was a 1000 lira note torn in half. The collector would carry one half, and the commander of the barracks would carry the other. Gualtieri, again, part of the arms deposits were in their barracks, knowing how the carbonari work, it is inconceivable that the central command would not be informed. Vincenzo again, when the pentiano attack occurred, in spite of being an attack against the carbonari, where three carbonary died, they decided it was more convenient for them to cover it up than to act against the person responsible. The motive was above all political and even today, they hide behind the excuse of national security. I hope you're hearing this, guys, I really do in my personal notes I've written, I wonder if they decided that it was more convenient to have a cover up, or if they were told by higher powers that they needed to have a cover up. I also think that everything he's saying about political motives and things being being hidden forever in the name of national security is spot on. We see Italian news report footage. Investigations are following all leads. 200 people are being questioned the voice of the telephone call. This is referring to that tipster that called about sending the carbonary out to this car that was wired to go off. The voice of the telephone call is being heard by 1000s, but no one recognizes it. This morning, news of the arrests the accused are all apart from the youngest ex convicts, thugs linked to the world of prostitution, any political motive is excluded. The hypothesis is a personal vendetta against the Coronavirus. We hear now from General minguerelli, commander of the Udine Coronavirus. Today, the commander of Udine got the announcement of the arrest. We have arrested six people in a combined operation using special forces. In my personal notes, I've written, I am glad they showed this newsreel, because it is very telling. We have Vincenzo, who was involved, saying very clearly that the motive was 100% political. Then we have on the news the official story that it was a personal vendetta by some career criminals and thugs that ran whorehouses, but it was not political at all. It was just dirty miscreants. When these acts can be attributed to something like revenge or a crime of passion, then nobody looks any further. Judge Felice case on General minguerelli was commander of the Udine carbonari. It might seem strange that a commander of the carbonari was party to the cover up of an attack where three of his men died. Gualtieri, minguerelli diverted the petiano investigation. He was convicted for this, as were other officials. Vincenzo, General minguerelli Undoubtedly knew of the existence of Gladio. He knew of a structure running parallel to that of the armed forces, and which was operating in his jurisdiction, being head of the Coronavirus in the utna region. He is a key person. The whole thing started with him, even if he only gave the orders. Casson minguerelli was. Convicted for crimes related to the cover up of petiano. At first, he received the sentence of 10 years and six months, but it was later reduced to two and a half years in my personal notes written this reminds me of the conclusion of the 1969 film z where we learn how no one really faces justice for the murder of the character based on gregoris lambracus. On December 7, 1970 Prince Borghese organized Neo fascist in an attempt to overthrow the Italian government. The Italian Ministry of the Interior was to be captured, but after units had moved into position, a telephone call canceled the entire operation in the aftermath of the aborted coup, the existence of the parallel structures of Gladio was uncovered Lieutenant Colonel Amos speazzi The day of the Borghese coup. On the evening of December 8, 1970 I received an order to carry out an exercise in the maintenance of public order using reliable men. What did reliable mean? Men who were neither left nor right wing extremists, we were to guard certain predetermined locations that could be vulnerable in an uprising. A message told me to activate plan triangle. This meant going to these predetermined points together with units of selected men in order to avert any uprising or insurrection. At the time, I knew only of a structure made up of people who were anti communist, which could be activated only in the event of an invasion of the nation. I was arrested in 1974 and I found myself in an embarrassing situation. The judge was persistently interrogating me until I realized that the judge was probing into what he thought was something revolutionary or unconstitutional. To me, it was an organization for national security. So I found myself in this situation, my superiors and the judge belonged to the same system. Could I tell the judge certain things? No, because of military secrecy. Was it legally right to keep quiet and let him go after innocent people? This was my dilemma. I wanted to talk to my superiors, and finally, they brought a general to me. The general forbade Amos to speak. It was General Vito micelle, head of Italian Secret Service. Micelle later invoked state secrecy to cover up the existence of this invisible Legion. He made signs not to say anything. The judge noticed it. He was actually saying yes, while he signaled no in my personal notes I've written this makes me think of people who say, we need to have another inquest. We need to have another set of hearings, or another commission about the death of JFK in America, for what purpose, to what end? All it would do is waste taxpayer dollars, and all of the same cronies would wind up acquitting themselves or the death of Dag hammersholed. You're not going to have some kind of UN tribunal, or a fish official investigation where the Charlie India alpha and or MI six comes out and says, Yes, we were working with Keith Maxwell in the sym we took down dag hammer, souls plane. You have this Lieutenant Colonel talking about how all of these people who were supposed to be investigating this attempted coup d'etat were part of the same structure. So yet again, you have the fox guarding the hen house. You have these powerful people supposedly investigating themselves. It's like in America how some people think Wall Street should regulate itself. What a joke. Johnny Flamini, historian, an organization materialized based on extreme right wing groups, the radical right. This was the ordinary nuovo in which fiance participated as a high ranking artillery officer. One general simply fled when an order for his arrest was issued. This was General Nardella, who has since remained a fugitive, though they say he still received his salary. Spillatzi Again, when I was in the barracks, I was called by General Nardella to the officers club, where he was the chairman to meet two or three people. This was 1971 72 I realized that I was essentially dealing with Freemasons. In my personal notes, I've written, holy shit, I have some books, you know, conspiracy theory related books about masonry. And I was like, I guess I'm gonna have to dust those off and give them a read. Vincenzo again, after the war, international masonry took on the task of participating in the battle against communism. Many army officials, particularly in the high ranks, are masons, as are judges, high ranking police officials and carbonary officers Neo fascism couldn't stay outside this phenomenon. Licio Geli, I have written this, and I will always stand by it. He worked for the SI M, the military special services during the war. He went to Yugoslavia, following behind Piero. Perini Geli was a convict, a convinced fascist. He took part in Italy's double game in the Balkans, where we fought Tito with the. Germans and the Croatians with the English there, he obtained certain secrets, which meant that after the war, he couldn't be marginalized. He went on to play in the big dirty game of Italian espionage. So his career developed within the framework of the secret services. I've written in my personal notes. This is like a real life spy movie, or a John le Carre novel gelly again. P2 was composed of the best brains of public life, from the military, from the arts, business, civil service and high finance. We would analyze situations and produce our ideas in writing to MPs, they could read our reports in order to be able to improve things. Here, in my personal notes I've written, can we trust this guy to tell us the truth about his organization? He could be telling us that all of these bright and wonderful, high level people were members, so he can seem important and this can seem above board, or he might be lying about that. He's definitely trying to paper over their activities, I think because he makes it sound like they would just sit and meet and talk politics and then write letters to the congressman. Meanwhile, we know that Gladio was so much more I'm going to hop over for a second to the Wikipedia page about the p2 Masonic Lodge. P2 was a Masonic Lodge founded in 1877 with the tradition of continental Freemasonry, and under the authority of grand orient of Italy, its Masonic charter was withdrawn in 1976 and it was transformed by Worshipful Master Licio jelly into an international, illegal, clandestine, anti communist, anti Soviet, anti Marxist and radical right criminal organization and secret society operating in contravention of Article 18 of the constitution of Italy that banned all such secret associations. Jelly continued to operate the unaffiliated lodge from 76 to 84 p2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Holy See affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the contract killings of journalist Carmine peccarelli and mobbed up bank president Roberto Calvi, and political corruption cases within the nationwide bribery scandal p2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michelle Sedona financial empire. P2 is sometimes referred to as a state within a state or shadow government, the lodge had among its members, prominent journalists, members of the Italian Parliament, industrialists and senior Italian military officers. End, quote, yeah, I don't think they were just hanging out drinking coffee and talking politics like some guys down at the Elks Lodge. I'm just saying. Vincenzo again, the p2 lodge wasn't the center of hidden power, it was a center of real power, hidden from the public, but not from the state. It has played a very precise role in this battle against communism, and I consider the p2 to be one of those parallel structures that were part of Gladio. It didn't have a military role, but rather and a role in internal subversion. I've written in my personal notes, I believe him, it may have been hidden from the public, but I don't think it was hidden from the state. Colonel Oswald in the winter, p2 was basically the wholly owned subsidiary of the company in Italy. The members were people who had been recruited by jelly for their unswerving loyalty to the cause of anti communism, I would say conservative democratic principles and the furtherance of American aims and policies in Western Europe. Imagine that I've written in my personal notes. I also believe this because it fits neatly with what David Talbot tells us about the Charlie India alpha and the Dulles brothers in the devil's chessboard. Meanwhile, this documentary predates his book by more than a decade,

back to Johnny flormini. 1969

is the year when T word really escalates dramatically. The year starts with attacks in the spring inside various courtrooms, and worsens in August with attacks on a series of moving trains. The climax was the massacre in Milan Vincenzo, again, the role of Freda and venturis group wasn't the most important, nor were they solely responsible for the Piazza Fontana. They took part in the attack. I explained this during the trial in mid 1972 I stated quite explicitly that others were involved. They were the focal point, and they were to take responsibility. They were not alone. Other people took part in the attack, people who weren't from the Padua group and who were never identified. I've written in my personal notes. This is another theme that we see, not only throughout Gladio specifically, but through a variety of atrocities, if someone or a group of people served the interest of the right power brokers, the state, the military industrial complex, the military intelligence complex, etc. They can do horrific things as long as they are doing the bidding of the real masters. And then when prosecution comes around, some Patsy is put up for the crime to satisfy the public and give everybody a. Public boogey man to boo and hiss at but the real perpetrators slink off in the darkness, and we may never know who they are. Judge Gerardo D'Ambrosio, investigating magistrate, the investigations into Piazza Fontana progressed with difficulty of five bombs placed that day, this one left victims, and they were many. 18 died and 80 were wounded in the attack on the bank. The police never failed to point out, even when they called in the help of international forces, that the investigations pointed to the involvement of anarchist groups. Franco Freda, I was the subject of a bad joke. The judiciary had been manipulated. I was first condemned, then cleared. The verdict was then overturned. I was retried and finally definitely cleared. This political and judicial adventure took 13 years of my life. In my personal notes I've written his interview seems rather odd, because he's standing there in a business suit. Looks to be in some kind of shop, and there are two guys in the background lurking almost like bodyguards or handlers. Vincenzo, again, Piazza Fontana is the climax of an operation that was to culminate in the declaration of a state of emergency. More than the military behind the Piazza Fontana attack, one sees the Ministry of the Interior and the Office for secret affairs, freda's group was given the role of execution. They were not the organizers. They simply carried out orders I've written in my notes. Again, I believe him, because what he's saying makes sense. Pay attention to what he says. The goal was these people were going to be hurt or even killed as a sacrifice in order to declare a state of emergency. That sounds a lot like September one. One, doesn't it? This is straight out of the playbook, guys. You get everybody scared and they are willing to give up whatever civil liberties they still have in order to feel safe again. D Ambrosio Barry's inquiry showed that Guido gianettini had been in Padua the key Days in May. His name was found in Giovanni Ventura's diary. A search was carried out at Gian, a teeny house, but that time he was already but by that time he was already out of the country, but we found reports in his house which were similar to others later found in the safe deposit box bearing the mark of a particular Secret Service. The safe deposit box was in a bank in the name of Ventura's mother. We talk now to Guido giannatini, military intelligence. I was an outside collaborator with Sid Italian secret services. I gave them information. Obviously, miletti was the last one to hear as I worked for the D section of Sid. My contact was the head of the section, firstly Colonel Viola, then Colonel gasker and General milletti. We go now to Captain Antonio labruna, Italian Secret Service 1964 to 1983 every time Gian, a teeny spoke about his work for miletti, I didn't understand it, so I made him write it down, and I gave this to miletti. Franco Freda, I believe that among the documents found in the safe deposit box, there were several pages containing the addresses of agents working for the American secret services in Italy. Giannatini, again, initially, I only knew Freda. He had information on a pro Chinese group that he was involved with. It was the first movement of its kind in Italy. The first groups came out of the Venice region. Consequently, since I lived in Rome and Freda in Padua and Ventura frequently traveled between Venice and Rome. He put me in contact with Ventura, and it was he who had direct contact with the extra parliamentary left in Venice, Freda, in my opinion, Gianna Teenies, modest stature didn't allow for him to be of any use, not even passively. I don't see what his work as a journalist could have had for the secret services of this republic I've written in my personal notes, what a laugh. We know in the US that our Mockingbird media gets used all the time, all the time. The Charlie India Alpha uses journalists all the flipping time. Vincenzo, again, they are a provincial group who helped the secret services, as did ordinai nuovo avant gardia and other less well known groups, they carried forward a strategy which entailed the infiltration of the left. They all did it ordine nuovo avant gardia and the Padua group, their attacks were attributed to the left. Diambrosio Again, the first stage was to make the attacks which would be blamed on the left. The second stage was actual infiltration of groups on the left, including these extra parliamentary groups, to carry out attacks. These groups were instrumental in increasing the social and political tension in the country. Freda, neither I nor my friends belong to any political party. We constituted those little forces one defines as extra parliamentary. Vincenzo Freda signed his reports. Agent T the Padua group consisted of Freda calling himself a national socialist, but who in fact worked for the Italian secret services. Massimiliano faucini, who worked for the Italian secret services, something which General milletti, as head of Section D, later admitted Johnny castlelini, informer for the secret services, which has finally been officially recognized, was also a member. Limiting ourselves to three names, we find that in a small group, three members of leadership were operatives of the Italian military secret services. Giannatini, when rumor started to circulate of my being called to testify at the trial against Freda and Ventura, I interrupted my contact with General mileni and communicated via Captain la bruna. Now we go back to labruna. Gianatini was not taken to the frontier of his own accord. He said that he had some work to do in France some journalist work. So he left. He was simply accompanied to the airport by a low ranking official. Giannatini already had in his possession a return ticket to Paris, a ticket which wasn't bought for him by the services, but by himself. Who has this ticket? Now, for professional reasons, we are careful even with matters we can't explain, so I have the ticket. Giannatini, when he found out that they were about to search my house, that I was being investigated, la bruna took me to the airport. Vincenzo, the suggestion that was put to me to help Freda escape from jail in the autumn of 1973 came from the security forces linked to the Minister of the Interior. This was proof that they were giving him cover. It was one of the few cases where officials of the military secret services have been tried, namely General miletti and Captain lebruna. They were both convicted for aiding and abetting the militant group of Freda and Ventura. Freda, I went away from Catan Sara, which was the town where I was obliged to live. I didn't run away for your information. He literally says that I didn't run away for your information. As far as Ventura is concerned, we left Italy at different times with different means and different help. An interviewer asks, What help? Help from friends. The interviewer asks, not from the services here in Italy. We then cut back abruptly to diambrosio. At that moment, we had Gian natini in for questioning. We were paying attention to the role played by him in the affair. We had discovered that Gian natini was one of those who believed in the so called Revolutionary War. He had spoken of it at a conference. The conference had the patronage of the Chief of Staff of defense. What was also interesting was that giannatini speech wasn't only on Revolutionary War, but on measures to be adopted to prevent the takeover of power by the communists this strategy of counter revolutionary war advocated provoking of social tension to demonstrate the danger of the left, a danger that could be demonstrated by carrying out attacks that could be ascribed to the left and through the infiltration of the left. Giannatini, miletti, let us say, helped me a lot, even when I was abroad at a certain point he was obliged to abandon me. Those who work for intelligence know that this happens. We return now to Freda. The life of everyone is manipulated by those with more power. The camera cuts to one of the bodyguard slash handler dudes looking nervous. So it's like, okay, is he a bodyguard or is he a handler? I don't really know. Judge for yourself. So Freda continues, Plato says that we men are puppets in the hands of ideas. In my case, I accept that I have been a puppet in the hands of ideas, but not in the hands of men from secret services here or abroad. That is to say that I have voluntarily fought my own war, following the strategic design, which came from my own ideas. That is all. What he says there is so interesting because it's not incorrect. People are puppets to ideas. However, he also spins it into a sort of cover, your ass, slash. Disavow of the things he's done. It's as if to say, Yeah, I admit that I was doing these things, but I was following my own ideas. The ideas were to blame. Perhaps I was to blame because I was a puppet of these ideas. But no officials are to blame. Isn't that convenient? Vincenzo, the massacre at bologna came at a time of maximum concern on the part of the Italian American and Allied secret services because of the electoral success of the Italian Communist Party, the massacre at bologna responds, as do all of the other massacres to the logic of a state who no longer knowing how. Confront a political enemy, resorts to extreme measures of violence attributable to extremists on the left or on the right in order to justify their own actions. That is the only truth about bologna. That is chilling. So we go back to Geli again. There was no bomb at bologna. It was a transport problem. Explosives were almost sold in the supermarkets. Somebody came from the east with these bundles. They were probably taking them somewhere else. They had stopped there. It was August, the second, an extremely hot day, someone threw a cigarette away without thinking, as happens, the people carrying the explosives were among the three bodies that were never identified. I've written in my personal notes, Wow, just wow. This guy sounds like a total bullshit artist to me. We go back to D'Amato. Even under communist or fascist regimes, which are usually the strongest when it comes to police powers, it is not easy to uncover who's behind a bombing? It is one of the vilest crimes possible and one of the easiest to commit. You plan a bomb and then you leave. It's as simple as that. There's no evidence left, because the explosion destroys everything. You never find anything afterwards. The attacks could have been carried out by anyone and everyone. There is no evidence that the Americans paid the T words or those who ordered the bombings, but secret Charlie India Alpha documents reveal a pattern of payments to people connected to the Italian secret services, some of whom knew nothing about Gladio is role in bombings and kidnappings. Well, if some of them knew nothing, then some of them do something. Lewinter, again, there's a document that lists people in their importance and what they received monthly. For instance, giannatini was rated a five, and he received $1,000 per month. Pino rowdy was a two, and he received $4,000 per month. Sara Vale was a one and he received $6,000 per month. General alavina was a one and he got 5000 General michili was a one who got 5000 demo was a one who was paid out of an embassy fund. Augusto cauci was a five paid directly by luccio jelly. Thus ends Episode Two, the puppet masters. In my end notes here, I've written this episode ends with information that is haunting for so many reasons, not the least of which is as an American, when you think about your tax dollars, as well as this absurd national debt financing T word acts and financing low life pieces of trash. We have homeless people, including homeless veterans and people that are struggling a shrinking middle class, but they have plenty of money to give to complete sacks of trash like these people, unbelievable, un fucking believable, isn't it? My God, I don't know how somebody could watch this documentary and not feel their blood boil. I mean, the only time your blood is not boiling is when you're chilled to the bone, because it's so fucking creepy this information, paying fascists and ex Nazis, letting them run around and be their own shadow shadow government, a government within the government, when we'll blame it on the left. We deliberately want you to target civilians, women and children. Really go for maximum damage and maximum shock value, because that's what it's going to take for us to subvert civil liberties. People will willingly give their rights away if they're scared shitless. Wow. Next time around, we will conclude with the final part, episode three of this Docu series. Stay a little bit crazy, and I will see you in the next episode.

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