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Timestamps:
0:00 Marketing Strategies and Campaign Scaling
11:55 Mastermind Networking Event Success
22:51 Global Networking and Creative Inspiration
34:57 Entrepreneurial Success and Networking Growth
So, first of all, thank you, thank all of you guys for being here, man.
Speaker 3:Thank you guys.
Speaker 1:Fuck man, I mean.
Speaker 2:I didn't even like you that much, hey.
Speaker 1:well, a lot of this today's been about honesty, right, that's how we do it. I think we got the idea, man, we should do a fucking mastermind here, right.
Speaker 1:I saw a terrorist. First time I met him, he said right, when you start a business, it's an idea and you hope that idea turns into some real shit. So this is an honor to me for all of us to be here. I mean all you guys, man, I know you guys really well. Some of you guys I'll get to know. A lot of us have made money together. Some of us lost money together, but you know, we're still, we're friends, right, we've had fun. We've been all over the fucking world, man, I've gotten massages by fucking men. It wasn't on purpose, though.
Speaker 2:You go to the bathroom and the motherfucker sent a massage to you, but then some kind of good stuff came on back.
Speaker 1:So the bottom line we have a crazy community. We're fucking all gifted. It's all serving an idea. You guys flew the farthest, fuck man and the.
Speaker 3:This all started with an idea. You guys flew far as fuck man.
Speaker 2:And all of you came from Brazil.
Speaker 1:Bro came all the way from Brazil. Eight hour flight. Eight hour flight, man, round and round. Bro, we came from far away. Man and all of you guys were handpicked to be here. We didn't release it. First of all, we had people pay for this shit. We didn't know what to do. We're just gonna bring a tight knit circle. I think 90% of people we're buying are king. We're inbound call tracking and routing software.
Speaker 2:so for anybody in the paper call space, whether you're buying calls, selling, you're a media buyer, you're a broker, you're a direct buyer, whatever you're doing internal marketing we can assist you with that. I've been with the company for four years. I've seen immense growth while I've been with the company. We started when I joined the company it was 2020. It's a crazy, crazy industry and I'm so happy to be part of it. So thanks so much, guys. I'm glad to be representing the company 185k.
Speaker 5:That was Q4 during ACA last year. We're consistently doing about 120 to about 150k that they spend for almost four months straight. I've only ever did YouTube for the last two and a half years, so I've gained about every single policy. I know not everything, but I feel like I know at least 85% of it. If anybody has any questions or things that I can just start talking about, yeah, go away.
Speaker 3:I mean you're super generous. I'm not sure if this if you read it it's horizontal like what's the reasoning?
Speaker 5:Okay, so in 2022, it was all stock videos, all horizontal. Okay, 2023, I'm gonna say February, march, it was all just shorts, shorts. So all the content now it's about 85% shorts.
Speaker 4:Do you do a short?
Speaker 5:campaign.
Speaker 7:Sure, just a sub a minute. Do you start with max conversions?
Speaker 5:every month. Yes, so house conversions two and a half weeks. You'll just lose a five-week crowd account After your second and a half week. Third week it starts to find the best TCBA and then after another week and a half-ish, you'll be back with that. Have you ever tried?
Speaker 7:like Spark TCBA, no, like start an account with, like search or something, and maybe like hit the audience quicker, or is that I honestly no, I was just like I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 5:I said 100% to a couple of questions.
Speaker 7:Do you do like just all broad or do you ever mix in like interest or audience or anything? I've always gone broad.
Speaker 3:Always Circumventing. How do you deal with those types of policies so circumventing?
Speaker 5:policies is usually you add a domain share on their ad account or create it. Obviously, none of us are that stupid, but everybody has. If you have a stock click that you took from their advertiser, it is also going to fly for that. If you just take it, screen capture, it loaded it. You'll absolutely get flat if you throw the add-on to add refresh, spotless.
Speaker 7:What's your like scaling process, like, alright, you have something working. A thousand spend like how you get to a hundred.
Speaker 5:K, so it's really just having patience. So at read about two and a half, three days, your Google campaign is going to say choose to scale it up. Always choose the option right under the blue box. So if you're out of the brand, it'll say 2k, 3k, 4k Always choose 3k. If it's one, two, three, always choose the one that's.
Speaker 7:Middle option, yeah, and what are you doing if it doesn't hit that budget Like are you applying with your TCPAs up or down?
Speaker 5:So TCPAs, we try to just be like stock trading basically.
Speaker 7:And like, where do you set them? Do you set them with, like where they'll offer actually and where you want? You know, like the price you want, want, or are you doing some?
Speaker 5:other type of so so on. Aca, your average cost per rock ball, uh, should be like eight to about 12 bucks. Keep your bet at 750, start from there, keep going up by 50 cents at every day, and then you'll find that sweet spot, and just do not touch it again and then you just just pump the budget up back 5k, 10k, that's it, that's it, and your budget jumps like you're going from 5k you're going straight to 10k, 15k.
Speaker 5:So just follow Google man. So if you start off the campaign at 500 bucks, it'll save $1,500 or $1,000. And then two, three days after that, double again, triple, again and again, and again and again. Your first day is always going to be shit. It just will. Now your best creatives probably won't. You may lose 20% of our live. Your day two have patience. Your day two, it does get better. You should see problems Day three skyrocketing again.
Speaker 8:To keep our agents fed, we need to scale at a certain volume, and so what happens is that 50% of the traffic goes to nobody and we have like six buyers, but they're so small.
Speaker 2:There is a reason why this is happening. Spanish is a completely different animal than English.
Speaker 8:This is way longer, it costs way longer. This is way longer, it costs way longer. Right, there's way more that we have to do in terms of, like you know, reaching back to the customer to get the missing documentation. It's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 9:Do you pause the ad set? Do you pause the ad when it's next day's Tuesday? Do you turn on the ad again? Do you turn on the ad set? Do you reset the budget? What's happening? So normally I do reset the budgets because sometimes, uh, if I like keep the budget really high, the next day it'll the performance can kind of get.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll get like a little messed up.
Speaker 9:I've noticed you set it back to where it was, or you just cut it in half but like, uh, I reset it normally back to where it was. Okay. So if you started at 100, you scale it to 2000 and put it back, yeah, and then when I turn it, I turn it off.
Speaker 9:On the campaign level, the idea all starts with what I call the psychological outline, which is probably going to be your hope, your lead, whether it's some story that also is relatable to the person that's going to. You know, the product's going to solve some problem, right. So it needs to be a story relatable to the person that's a consumer and it's going to mention the problem so they can be like, oh shit, that's me. And then it's best to be an emotional story, because people like we ourselves are usually for, I think, mostly older demo and obviously they're more empathetic. So you kind of start there for sure to hook them in, and then you got basically there's a gonna be kind of like a hero, protagonist, usually made up figure, authority, so to say, and they basically something happens in their life and that's basically gonna be around the problem, and then they go on the journey to find a solution to this problem.
Speaker 9:There's a crazy story. They trap everything. Then they come out of this unique mechanism, what's called, and it's gonna be again. It can be something made up, something that's part of it's neutral, maybe in the medium it's, you know, some disease, maybe it's some, you know tech, tech, part of the gadget you know that doesn't exist anywhere else, the patent, that is all the rights. And then you know, demand explodes. Okay, it's called Batman. Oh yeah, what's? I never heard about it. It's cool BAPI. What's so special about it?
Speaker 3:I've seen people like want to try it. It's the cheapest. It's the cheapest. So, basically, you put in your API piece. I can give you guys a screenshot of a working setup. There's a setup that's involved. You got to use a certain type of back end and you gotta use an open API, open AI. You gotta choose which language model. Is it the mini cluster? Is it that 11 labs? You can make your own 11 labs API. You can use your own custom voice.
Speaker 3:So basically, oh yeah, fuck. Yeah, it's amazing, right. So what we did was we had this lady that worked in our office for like 10-12 years older lady she retired. She's an old southern lady, you know, she's kind of from the hood, so she has that natural sound in her, and I actually called her voice because she was the best closer in the world, right, and we basically used her voice on 11 Labs, now 11, what's the consent? Yeah, I'll take it so pretty much the idea is so.
Speaker 3:Vapi has functions. Not everything has functions. So the way our process flow with that is is when a customer calls in, we ask them three qualifying questions and it logs all those questions. It does a postback to a server. Flow with that is is when a customer calls in, we ask them three qualifying questions and it logs all those questions, it does a post back to a server and it'll get the customer's number and it'll have all their questions, basically like a CRM. If they qualify for the offer, it goes to the call center. If they don't qualify for the offer, then we take them down to something called a voice path, where then it asks them a couple more questions regarding debt and then I'll send them a text message for debt SMS. And I'll ask them like hey, watch them, if they have over 15K of debt, what's the other debt question? I can't remember what. For debt? Yeah for debt, that's the main one. That's the main one. So if they say yeah, the system has a function and it connects with make.
Speaker 3:So there's functions that connect with make that do that back-end SMS. So in the script you could say if they qualify for that, you could say send debt SMS and let's say they don't qualify for debt, Then you move them down the line and ask them to have that.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 3:So your goal is to have that shit back for like seven hours. So I saw that on my end, where we're doing like I'll go like four or five hundred, like four or five hundred pounds, we're only closing like 80.
Speaker 1:Listen, guys, this is fucking great. I mean initially and Dennis, oh he's over there, we're going to have speakers and whatever right this evolved and I think Dennis had a great, great suggestion doing this round table thing. This is like this is fucking amazing. Again, I think we dropped a lot of fucking gems here. I hope you guys felt the same kind of value and a lot of fucking gems here. I hope you guys felt the same kind of value and man, my head's fucking spinning right here. A lot of good value here. So thank you guys for being candid, for sharing, because that's how we all grow together Knowledge, knowledge exchange, right? Great fucking information, guys. I love it, cartel shit.
Speaker 3:So guys we wanted to do reconvene obviously soaking the information and we're going to come back with more questions for one another. So, look, this has naturally happened. Right? These are the fucking paper call guys. Right, these guys just started talking. These are the BSL guys. Those guys broke out and they did their thing right. So our thing is pretty much creating, creating teams. Naturally. This was all natural.
Speaker 3:I don't know hey, go talk about the itself. They, they, they're, they had that fire to talk about it. So that's what we have these happy hours for today and tomorrow so you guys can all reconvene, talk about rainbow, talk about tracking, talk about data monetization, talk about all that. So I really appreciate everyone that flew out, came here trusted in David and myself to put on a f-cking good event for you guys. And look, we're still halfway through the event, this whole three-day ColumbiaCon shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we have a lot of stuff planned. We got a secret. We got a cameo appearance tomorrow. Someone's coming out, Morrie. Morrie's coming out. Morrie's coming out. Come on Morrie, Come on Morrie. Yes, guys, again Awesome, you knew it. That was a total blast. Morrie said he's coming out tomorrow, Perfect stage.
Speaker 3:He's getting full blown. So, guys, I really appreciate everyone dropping gems. Um fucking TikTok guy. Where's TikTok guy? This guy Honestly like I'm up on a call with him, like next week.
Speaker 1:Like for sure, Please pick up my call so you're on the WhatsApp group. Keep that going after this. Let's keep talking after this. You know I'm serious about this Cuba thing. Maybe we do the next one in Cuba. Fuck that, Seriously, why not? We're all adventurers, why not? We're all adventurers when we did the podcast, we'd be an adventurer.
Speaker 1:right, we're all adventurers here, man, I think that's why we're able to do what we do make money, be creative, go all over the world, so fuck it. It won't just be the Columbia. This is the beginning of something big Cubicon.
Speaker 3:Cubicon, cubicon.
Speaker 1:We got a freaking jet ski here about doing more of this shit, man we're ready to go.
Speaker 3:One thing Anker and one thing obviously Ringbutt as well. They showed support in us. That's the most important part is support.
Speaker 9:And as long as we have the support.
Speaker 3:We're going to keep doing these fucking shows. Man, let's fucking go.
Speaker 10:I'm up for your call dude.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 10:Give this guy a shot. Team Wars makes a dream work On three, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1:One, two three Team Wars makes a dream work. Yo man, I'm losing my voice, but it came back magically from the smooth talker, mr Michael Walker. How you doing Cheers? We're at Columbia Con LFG Fucking. What a fucking show man. What's your opinion about this show?
Speaker 7:It was an amazing show. I love this small mastermind settings. When you get 20 guys together, people are really willing to share and open up about core business problems, things they're doing. To me, these are the best type of events. You just put a bunch of smart, talented people together and see how you can make more money appear out of it. Right? It's been fucking dope, so I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you that. You know people came from all over the world over here. I mean for you to come from vegas. I called them up like 10 days ago like yo, I'm doing a mess. I might look to have you there. Yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, yeah, I mean call me up and I was like I don't, uh, it's kind of far.
Speaker 7:But you know, for my man, david, I had to come and I love Columbia, so and I knew the group here and I'm very big on, like if I get one piece of info to make it worth it, and I knew I would here with all these guys. You know you can one-on-one pick some of the best guys in the space brain Like you don't have that ability or many like very often, like you go to these shows Everyone is so busy, they're taking meetings, things like that. You can't just get a guy one-on-one and say like, hey, like, teach me more about what you do, or I have this problem. Can you help me with this? So yeah, like I had to be here.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it. I think you hit the nail on the head, because when you're at the shows you have these quick meetings. It's always fast-paced, you're kind of stressed, trying to go here, go there. Here we're locked in for three days together. Right, like we can't go. We're on top of a fucking hill. It took 20, 30 minutes to get up. We can't go anywhere.
Speaker 7:We're like fucking vib relationships and bonds. You know, at that point it's like, yeah, a lot of you know they can be for life, like maybe if you never even do business with people.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know, it's just, it's just a homie. Oh God, oh, my God, oh yeah, let's do this live, appreciate you.
Speaker 4:That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3:That's some LFG shit right there, all right you ready One, One, two, three ColumbiaCon.
Speaker 4:ColumbiaCon. Let's drink some water.
Speaker 1:That's what I know, it's water.
Speaker 9:Thank you, it's kind of water.
Speaker 1:Oh, fucking. A Bottom line is, bro. We're going to be doing this more often. We might have one that maybe Rubicon might sponsor. We'll see Cubicon and Rubicon Cubicon and Rubicon. Yeah.
Speaker 6:We left the cat in the bag, but fuck it, it's all good. Whatever, let me out.
Speaker 5:I love you, man.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much, Barbar, for coming For sure, and this shit ain't even over, we still got half.
Speaker 1:We got tomorrow man Samar, my man Samar. You seen him on the LFG show. We were in Las Vegas. Now we're in Medellin. Man, medellin, check this out. We had an idea, many mastermind and about three weeks ago, like bro, let's fucking do it. I'm like all right, let's fucking do it.
Speaker 3:so we did it and now we're here and now we had a fucking great turnout. I'm sure everyone saw like their stories. Everyone was posting about it. I was here and it was just basically everyone was dropping heat and I deal with something like this was I talked to david about it hey, let's bring people and let's hand select people that can provide real value Right, immense value. It was crazy, do you agree with me? Everyone walked away with something that they can fucking do tomorrow on their campaigns or whatever. This was a media buyer, focused mastermind, no speakers, only round table, and honestly, it turned out fucking great. Everyone's having a great old time. We're putting a name to this shit Columbia Con. We did it.
Speaker 1:Yo, we fucking did it, man. And you know what? This was not without fucking technical difficulties. We had some drama in the beginning, but we fixed it. It's not the end of the marking. You got to pivot and we pivoted pretty fast. We pivoted really.
Speaker 3:We pivoted pretty fast and successfully it was a very stressful event for for me and david, but you know what it worked out fucking great man. It worked out really good. I feel like everyone's gonna walk away with something that they can take to their team build systems, build infrastructures from what they learned today. And that's what we wanted. And these guys are jv'ing with one another now and that's what we want. We want people to work together and we want people to grow. That's the most important part of this. We're not asking for anyone for like fucking money or anything like that. That's not the fucking goal here. The goal here is hey, we just want to get like-minded people in the same fucking room so they can make fucking money together, and that's exactly what happened today. We did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did, and it's not even over yet. And it's not only about these ideas and making money. It's about having fun. We went out last night and had a lot of fun. And it's about life is short Make money, create memories, have a good time because, at the end of the day, you can't take this shit with you, right? You're not going to take it with you.
Speaker 3:You're going to leave a legacy, we might open it up. What do you think about it, david? Do you think we should open it up for more people? We got to think about it, we got to think about it.
Speaker 1:Maybe we could do a poll.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll do a little poll, maybe we open it up, but we have media buyer focused guys. Man and everyone shot. Everyone gave straight heat. Today I walked away with a lot of knowledge you know what was awesome?
Speaker 1:There were people here you don't find at Leeds Con, you don't find at Affiliate Summit. We had a guy here, one of those guys $200 million a fucking year. The guy is doing in Nutra and these crazy offers Not just in the US, in 80 different countries. I mean that's next level. It gets you outside your. You got to think outside the box. I'm not making money, I'm kind of making money internationally, but not scale. So it makes me want to think bigger.
Speaker 3:You got to level the fuck up and their strategies help us to get to that level. It opens your fucking mind to be like okay, I'm sitting in a room with a guy that's doing 200m let me pick his brain a little bit and that shows we're so occupied at the chandelier, at the blue, and there's so many people interrupting like we don't get that level of one on one and I feel like I got that level of one-on-one with those guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and that's what it's about. You got to get in the right rooms. We're in the right mansion right now with a bunch of heavy hitters, and that's what matters. But, samar man, this was not easy to pull off, but we pulled this shit off. I love you, man. We're going to keep this shit going. Let's fucking go, baby. Let's fucking go. Yo guys, man, I don't know what the fuck happened Last time. I interviewed a man. He was six foot tall the motherfucker's like. He went to Columbia, did that growth hormone injection. Six foot four man, how does it feel to be so tall? You got a different perspective on life, bro.
Speaker 8:It's like a way different perspective man. Everything looks so different man Like you know, I can see the dust on top of the fridge.
Speaker 1:Does it help your media buy better, better campaigns? Absolutely. I got a bird's eye view on everything, bro. That's great. Listen, this guy's a master at the Spanish verticals, the Spanish markets. You were talking about the roundtable. Let the audience know what we talked about a little bit.
Speaker 8:Oh, we talked about Spanish being a huge opportunity. You know, second most spoken language in the US, untapped. You know saturation is not that much and you know there's not a lot of infrastructure built on Spanish. There's multiple verticals, aca, debt, and there's not a lot of competition but a lot of opportunity, and that's what we like to. Those are the verticals that we like the most, you know.
Speaker 1:You like the tap verticals and we talked about. He was a big hit at the Mastermind, because talk about creative, the importance of creative, such a big, important thing, importance of creative, such a big, important thing.
Speaker 8:Let's talk a little bit about that as well. Man, the creative process. I mean there's a lot of different media buying strategies out there and you know, especially this weekend, spending so much time with the big hitters seeing all the different strategies there's one thread that connected all the dots and it was creative. I don't care what, what strategy you want to use, if you're creative sucks, you're not going anywhere. So, yes, the infrastructure is good, data monetization is good, your back end stuff is good, but the big, the start, is the creative. If you have a great creative, you have way more chances of success.
Speaker 1:100 right, these guys are masters what they do. Your, your partner, manuel chris, grows awesome guys. Another thing man, we're in colombia. Man, you travel a lot. How do you think that helps you with the creative process, all this travel?
Speaker 8:man different cultures, different perspectives in life is great. Let's fucking go, baby, let's fucking go.
Speaker 1:We're international baby. Let's go, baby. I love everywhere.
Speaker 8:And, honestly, man, what we're doing right now, which is spending time with top hitters in the industry, learning from one another, creating moments together, what we're doing right now, this is like lifelong bonds that we're creating, and this is what it's all about, bro Knowing people, learning from people, and we're all students and teachers at the same time. So this is great, man.
Speaker 1:And I got a sneak peek. We got something we're working on, man, me and Dennis over there. We got masterminds coming to Miami. Motherfuckers, you better get ready. Put on your dancing shoes. We're going to make this shit happen. The guy's a great salsa dancer, by the way. Let's fucking go. Let's go. One last thing how was the mastermind for you? How was the round? How was the whole thing? Let people know, man.
Speaker 8:Powerful, impactful man. It was about giving and also like receiving, information, grow and man. It's a great environment to be around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Lots of fun too. We had so much fucking fun, man. Yo, give my man some more Again. Give him some more man.
Speaker 3:Let's fucking go, baby, let's fucking go, we did it man. We did it.
Speaker 1:Great mastermind. We made it happen. We made it. No takers there. We want givers. You're a fucking taker. You kick the fuck out. That's the bottom. That's the rule okay, let's go, baby Love you man.
Speaker 1:Good shit, yo guys, a big tenant of the LFG show is giving. The more you give, the more you receive. We just gave this shit, this thing. We're about to get a fucking hat here. Perfect man, I'll one man. Dennis Gonsher. I know this guy, yo, you need to watch. I know this guy for a long time. Great fucking guy. The guy's a killer.
Speaker 2:Ecom Legion all that shit, oh God.
Speaker 1:We keep giving, but that's all we do here, man, I'll have to buy it. Hey George here are the puppies.
Speaker 3:All right, you guys good here we go or poppy, here we go, fuck, here we go. Help the economy, man we're going to fuck Unscripted.
Speaker 10:Here we go All right, cheers my man.
Speaker 1:This is going to help us have a better interview, Fuck, all right, goddamn, we got to stop with this shit. Anyway, this is the deal, man. E-com. What's popping in the?
Speaker 9:Anything else, basically, that you're going to see on big networks like DFO, for example, ronit is going to be great Listicles, gadgets, listicles like 16 products going viral right now. I think it's going to be massive. I mean, my goal is basically to hit Facebook and YouTube very hard on gadgets and I know it's going to be very good. And then come round Q1, it's going to be VSL.
Speaker 1:VSL. We had a lot of people so we just did a mastermind LFG, mastermind man, great mastermind. It was crazy because you had the paper hall guys in their silos. You had the VSL guys in their e-com. It was freaking great. I love seeing that organic communication and knowledge sharing going.
Speaker 9:Let me tell you something else. So this event so far has been fucking great. I love the fact I think industry needed something like this for a long time where it's just media buyers, it's no networks, none of that crap. We can openly like kind of talk about all of our problems and solve it as a team, and I think it's fucking awesome and so far it's been a great experience and you guys, I think everyone's benefited from it. And it's also been a great bonding experience with everyone. I think a lot of partnerships are going to come out of it down the line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree, and we're going to do more of this shit. I was just talking to Manuel. He's in Miami, you're in Miami, we're bringing this shit to Miami. Guys Get ready. And we want givers. No, fucking, the more you give, the more you receive. This is a fucking look at this guy. He got money coming out of his fucking ears and eyes and whatever man. Do you agree with that philosophy, or what man? What's that? You're the perfect media buyer man. Oh, good man, I love you. Dennis, man, let's fucking go, baby, let's fucking go. Yo, drew, we're here, we're back in Comuna Thres, we got to go.
Speaker 4:People bungee jumping all the way. Are you ready to do that shit, or what? Yeah?
Speaker 1:maybe in my next life. How much would?
Speaker 4:someone have to pay you to do that, probably about a strong 20.
Speaker 1:If one of your best advertisers spending millions of dollars a month. Told you to do that, would you do it?
Speaker 4:And they'll up your budget. I'll do anything for my pups.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. You got to take care of your guys right, customers always right.
Speaker 1:No money, no honey.
Speaker 4:So how's the event been for you so far, man? What do you think about buddy? I mean can't even like begin to explain how wonderful this event's been. You know you go to a lot of the shows, the bigger. You know conferences, right, and you know you walk away maybe spending, you know, hours and hours like looking to try to find even a tad bit of the value that we're like dropping minute by minute together here, right, like the group that we got together here is, like you know some of the biggest hitters in the space. You know some innovators, guys doing things that you know others wish they were doing in our space. So when you have the opportunity to tap in and you know, get like not only firsthand knowledge from them, but like what's working for them actually today. Yeah, you know, get like not only firsthand knowledge from them, but like what's working for them actually today. Yeah, you know I mean you can't really like it's priceless, it's fucking priceless.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we had a fucking guy, $200 million a year in ad spend, ad spend. I was like what the fuck man?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean just, could you imagine managing that kind of budget on campaigns, Like I got a fucking $100 budget on a new test? I'm waking up fucking shaking in the boots.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. That's how you level up man. You got to be around people like that. It makes you think bigger, right.
Speaker 4:I mean shit. You know, if you don't know what you don't know, right, and sometimes we have limiting beliefs and you know, obviously there's ups and downs in the space but when you see, like, what is actually possible, uh, it's fucking mind-blowing.
Speaker 1:I love it, man. What great that you brought a lot of value. Man. Love having you down blake soon as you walk in.
Speaker 4:You walk in like a fucking rock star man yo, you know, this is like a second home for me now. Uh, you know. So it's like once I step foot in managing the vibes, it just brings the best out of everybody. So, yeah, definitely, uh, kept it. You, you know some light. Obviously, you know I got a bit of knowledge, a little, you know a little true bombs I can, you know, help bring to the table.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, bro, you just gave me an idea. Bro, I'll tell you offline. You gave me a great fucking idea. I can't wait to tell you, man. That's the beauty of these things, man, we just we're like idea machines, man, and one idea, your most ideas will work fucking 95. But that five percent, three percent, works. That's how it happens, man. I mean, it's just like our campaigns, right like you don't know.
Speaker 4:You know when you're going to crack a new campaign, what angle might work. 99 of the time, the ad that you think's the hitter fucking, you know never. Yeah, just totally tanks, right. So, yeah, you know, everything starts off with a thought, right, we're in a thought-based universe, you know, before anything's created, it starts with the thought and then it manifests, you know, through the work and everything you put into it afterwards, right? So, uh, yeah, man, I'm walking away. A better man coming here today, for sure too man, we're going to heaven, baby all right
Speaker 1:let's go, let's fucking go, man's fucking go man.
Speaker 2:Let's do it, man.
Speaker 1:Big shit, my man. Guys, I got a special guest. We feel like we're on top of the world right here. I want to welcome my man, victor Tokarov, with Lee Buyer Hub. These guys are amazing. We've done a lot of shit together, especially in the debt space. This guy is a very world-vers and fuck around, he's a fucking heavy hitter. So, bro, talk to us about what's going on in debt. What's a 411,?
Speaker 6:baby Crushing debt. Right now, super hot Buying calls. We run a call center, you know, helping the average American get out of debt. So, yeah, kind of crushing that Supercar circle. 2555, dubai, we do supercar rallies, you know, things for fun, networking, getting the game going. But this Columbia trip, right here, all the guys, all the homies here, top notch, crushing it, crushing the space. My guy, dave here crushing it. So we made a lot of money together. Let's keep on going, yeah.
Speaker 1:We had a great run. I don't know how long that camp. We had a campaign, six, nine months, big, big campaign. Unfortunately, some shit happened with the buyer and buyer and it was what it was. But listen, that's how you learn. You go through ups and downs, you know, but you know you're good, you're good partners at six through. So let's talk about the power of partnerships and relationships. Man, how important is that in our game?
Speaker 6:yeah, so we started, like I said we did the death settlement together way back and yeah, you have those relationships. You kind of piggyback off that stepping stones. We do more business together. We are a lot of the guys here I'm doing business with already. So this is kind of like the synergy we're looking for Shit ton of value. Let's effing go Like hey.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love the fact we told him about this event literally like five days before it happened and he didn't think twice, he fucking just went. And I think that's one very common denominator with successful people Like you don't fucking think, you just do it, man, would you agree? What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6:Yeah, you see opportunity, you hop on it. Money does not wait, it has to happen right away. Lot. I live in Dubai and I live in the US Florida, but I'm in Dubai fairly often.
Speaker 1:We were talking offline about when you have events in Dubai. You're there. You notice like two groups. You notice the people that are close to popping right. They're making money, they're doing well. You got the next group the guys who've already been there. Can you talk more about that?
Speaker 6:Yeah, so we notice different sticks out, the two types you know. The guys are on the up and go. They're coming, they want to network, they want to make moves, so that's why they come to Dubai. And then, of course, there's those other people that have made it. They're kind of bored, but they're also always looking for partnerships to bring on those people that are going to bring to the next level or something different, something out of the box. That's why we meet, that's why we hang out. There's always that Intel from the outside. Hey, I got this, I got that, let's bring it together, make something big.
Speaker 1:And talk about Dubai. I'll leave over this. There's there's possibility as a rumor out there, there might be one of these groups meetups a mastermind in Dubai. We'll see. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6:Yeah, let's make it happen. We have all the connections. If you're in in Dubai, hit me up. We have yachts, we have supercars, we have all the nicest spots. We got it all, baby.
Speaker 1:Yes let's go. Good shit, great to have you on the show. Thank you for your partnership, man, let's fucking go. Let's go. Boom, we're back, baby, we've been here, we. Ceo of ClickDealer.
Speaker 1:That's right CEO of ClickDealer, fucking great guy. I've known this guy for years and he got the no money, no honey shirt Columbia guy. I got a great story. I met him the first time two, three years ago, three years ago maybe at Leeds Con, san Diego. He came up to me. Our boy, butch Barnum, was like yo, dave, was going to do a mastermind in Columbia.
Speaker 10:Remember that shit. I always wanted to go here and finally it happened.
Speaker 1:So we said we're going to do a Bassamana Colombia, fast forward two and a half years. Three years later we're fucking here baby.
Speaker 10:Oh, it's sweet man. Anybody who's not here is missing out.
Speaker 1:And check it. He came through my call saying Pareda Colombia. What do you think about Pareda?
Speaker 10:man, oh man. That's one of the coolest cities I've been to. I also imagination in my head of how it's going to be like man Barrera is sick. I love that city. Overall, columbia is an awesome place. Anybody who's not coming, not working with people in Columbia, is missing out.
Speaker 1:So we're doing an affiliate program, we're going to put him. He's going to be, he's going to get like 10% of that right.
Speaker 10:We're doing it with the Colombian tourism ministry. Right Damn man, they'd be better nervous.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about the business for a bit. Man, what's hot for you guys right now? What's working for ClickDealer Home?
Speaker 10:services, e-commerce, obviously, nutra, legion. We're kind of like we're everywhere, we're everywhere. We have an office in Shanghai, in Europe, in North America, in Latin America. So we have a big team. They're always closing, they're always closing good deals. And we have a big team, they're always closing, they're always closing good deals, and we have a good distribution all over the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's been doing this for a long time over, like 20 years. Big fucking, he's a brain at this and I love me hanging out with you. And in terms of like volume, these guys are doing hundreds of thousands of home service leads a month. Right, Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 10:man, we're killing it, yeah, but it's a lot of tough work, you know. We built it out for the last four years. We have our own mini buying team so to deliver good quality leads, we're always looking to expand our business and more you know, more verticals.
Speaker 1:What do you think is the key man? If you had to say one thing was the key to doing that much volume and doing it well, what is it?
Speaker 10:I mean, you know, helps a lot. Obviously, everybody get optimized. If they're setting booster traffic you're not going to make any money. Or you'll make money in the short term but then you know, long term you're going to lose your clients. So you know, providing good quality leads, that's the, you know, that's the key to any business.
Speaker 1:I agree, yeah, that's what it's all about. Bro, what was your best, what was your favorite part of this whole LFG, mastermind and Columbia account? What was your favorite part?
Speaker 10:so far. I mean so much knowledge in that, you know, at the Villa there were so many people with so much information about how to run on different type of verticals, how to run on different type of platforms. People were sharing it. I'm pretty sure everybody got something that you know out of it. It'll help them scale like crazy. I mean, there's a guys who run over 200 million dollars a year in revenue, so it's, that's been, yeah, and that's spent, that's been, it's, it's insane. So it's definitely some like big guns here.
Speaker 1:Man big guns, big guns that you don't see in.
Speaker 2:America, you don't see at the shows that's what I got.
Speaker 10:That's what I got excited about only it's all about, like you know, small, small meetups where everybody brings something to the table. You know, they have their own personal knowledge in different fields and this was, you know, the right spot for this man. Should we do it again? Oh yeah, hell yeah. Man in another country, oh, another country another place another group of people you know, sharing information.
Speaker 1:That's how you make it like a cartel, yeah, like a cartel. That's what we call the theme the cartel. We're taking this shit over. I love you, man. I'm so glad you were here, man thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 10:Like you said, this idea popped like about two, three years ago.
Speaker 8:It was random you myself, butch and you made it happen, we'll get Butch at the next event.
Speaker 1:I know man.
Speaker 10:But we're going to get him at the next event.
Speaker 1:All right, man, I love you. Man, let's fucking go, baby, let's fucking go, let's fucking go, let's fucking go. Thank you, thank you, thanks for watching.