The LFG Show
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The LFG Show
From Teen Hustle To Industry Leader | Affiliate Legend Harrison Gevirtz
Where would this industry be without Harrison?
Long before playbooks, gurus, or conference stages, Harrison was already in the trenches building, breaking, and rebuilding the systems that performance marketing and pay-per-call still run on today. He isn’t adjacent to the story — he’s a central character in it. A true pioneer whose fingerprints are all over how this industry scaled, stabilized, and survived.
In this episode, we sit down with Harrison, and his story is straight out of the wild west of the internet.
It starts at 13 years old — spamming the internet, flipping coins on eBay, living in sketchy forums, and hacking early SEO before anyone knew what SEO even was. That chaos turned into momentum. That momentum turned into a seven-figure run before most people finish college. And then came the real test: scaling into a nine-figure affiliate network that exploded under bad AR, weak controls, and adrenaline-fueled decisions.
The wreckage became the lesson.
We go deep on the things most operators never talk about:
– Why promising wires you can’t send destroys trust instantly
– How weekly, no-minimum payouts quietly kill businesses
– Why radical transparency with advertisers and traffic sources can unlock exclusive access
– How one counterparty default can wipe out years of top-line wins
Harrison breaks down real operator decisions:
– Trade credit insurance that saved six figures
– Modeling payroll for twelve months of zero cash flow
– Choosing durability over hype, ego, and dopamine
Ringba is a core part of this story.
As partners, Harrison and Adam Young helped architect the infrastructure that modern pay-per-call depends on. We talk about the early chaos of the industry, the trust failures, the lack of real controls, and how Ringba was built by operators who had already lived the downside. From call tracking to intelligent routing to marketplace liquidity, Ringba didn’t just grow with the industry — it helped define it.
We also break down Ringba X, a programmatic call exchange built slowly and intentionally, prioritizing compliance, quality, and longevity in a space that usually chooses speed over stability. Built to last, not built for hype.
Then comes the pivot nobody saw coming.
A brutal private jet experience turned into a full-scale aviation business serving billionaires, built on 24/7 service and fair economics for aircraft owners. We break down a surgical, near break-even play that landed Grant Cardone as a client — flying him to Paris on a private jet — and why five hours of proximity at 40,000 feet can beat any conference hallway deal.
If you’re a performance marketer, founder, or operator trying to scale the right way, this episode is required listening:
– Communicate early
– Insure receivables
– Respect margins
– Build real systems
– Partner with people who’ve lived the downside
– Keep showing up when it’s uncomfortable
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SPEAKER_00:I was text messaging behind my back on my sidekick too. Sidekick 2, babies. That's the shit. AOL Instant Messenger.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, not only that, this guy just won. Listen, I got the AP Award for LFG's show. We got it. This guy won one for Legend of the Fucking Year. Anytime you can make money at 13 years of high school, you fucking deserve the legend of the year. Yo, Gen Z should build a fucking shrine to you, bro. Regit Gen Z making their money now. Look at her. This guy. This is fucking Gen Z before Gen Z. You know that? This guy's making money in high school. These guys just learned about it. Oh my god. This guy, yo, Eric Yoper on LG show. You're making a cameo appearance. Cameo appearance for next time. Listen, man. He won legend of the year and I won fucking LG. This guy won fucking best blazer of the year. Let's fucking go as blazer. We're gonna get you soon. We're gonna continue. So let's talk about this, right? What year was this when you were 13 years old making money in high school? In 2005 or so, six. Put his deals at 5 yes. So 2005 and 6. And I mean, I you you were like an serial entrepreneur, I would say. Well, you're making money, but you wanted a camera phone.
SPEAKER_00:That's why it started, and my parents were like buying your own fucking camera. Okay, so let's talk about that. Yeah. I got started, man. I wanted to find something to make some money. Before uh on then advertising, I sold diamonds and coins on eBay while dropshipping. And then uh figured this stuff out, you know. I had I had some fun spamming the internet as a 13, 14-year-old. Then I learned how to do search, which was really boring, but it's good. You know I learned, built it up, and I've essentially ran every van. If you think of the vertical, I probably ran it over the years and I've seen it a lot. I've seen the internet change, you know, and still here, it's still showing up. How old are you now, Harrison? 33, dude. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:But you know what? It's crazy talking to you because like you're young in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you might feel old, but you're 33. You're so young. But I feel like you got the fucking well, your experience is probably that of like a six-year-old your brain is like, you ever feel that way?
SPEAKER_00:It's like I a funny experience. I made some comment on a call, so you know, like, about being old, and they're like, You're not that old. I'm like, Yeah, but like I've been working as many years as you have. Yeah. And the woman was like, shit, you've been working more than me because I went to college. And I was like, exactly. I've just been grinding, so I'm a little jaded, but yeah. You know, I got the experience. I can I can see stuff because, like I said, I'm not I'm not a three-year entrepreneur. And and the most important part of that is I've failed a couple times during that time too. So I've started over twice, and that's really how you you learn.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm getting my ass grabbed by these fucking people, man. We're gonna course Ray Saints. Jesus, man. It is an HR Niper, but we're here, we're doing good. Anyway, with that being said, um the fuck are we talking? Fuck Ray, man. Ray fucked up or turning it up. Let's uh let's talk about something, right? Let's talk about your failures, okay? Because everyone everyone likes to talk about making money and blah, blah, blah. This guy's 13 years old making printing money in high school. Where are your failures? Like, what was the failure that impact you the most?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, so I, when I was about 16, I partnered up with the gentleman and we built an affiliate network. And uh we we came into the space with really ambitious goals. We said, we're gonna just beat every payout no matter what. Like, we don't care about our margins. Let's just crush everyone. And then here's on top of it is a real recipe for disaster. Weekly payments, no minimum. Oh my god. And uh, there's people to the two day, to this day that are still pissed because we fucked all their margins up. They went from making, you know, 20 points, 25% on their on, you know, as an affiliate network to like six because we would just come in and be like, yeah, I'll take a quarter polite. I don't give a shit. And it was great, but when we scaled this thing to like 80, 90, 100 million in revenue, it was like my buddy's dad running the accounting. He was like a mortgage baker, and uh we just didn't we didn't know how to scale that side of the business and the the business exploded, like literally just accounts receivable nightmare into zero. And uh, you know, like okay, we owe these publishers all this money. We have no money, like we're fucked. And you know, I look back at that, I I learned a lot of lessons. I learned, you know, why it's wise to maybe look into people if you're gonna give them a lot of credit. Um, and then I really learned like you have one reputation, and you got so I kept showing up. I remember that business failed. I had a job for one year, and during that one year I had to go to an affiliate summit. It was the one year they did affiliate summit in Philadelphia in Philadelphia. And I went to the show and they put me at like his like residence in Hyatt. It was a shit old. Yeah, but people in the like Philly, they got some fucked of areas. Well, it was my first time as an employee. I go and you were 18 at the time? This I was like 20 because I took it. I was about to say, yeah. But here's the thing everyone didn't want to know what I was doing now. They just asked me about the failure. Yeah, and I'm just like a shame. But I showed up and like I I got my reputation back. People don't even care about that shit, you know, now, and it just like I had to own it, and it was brutal. But I I essentially learned like the logistical failures we made. But the most important lesson I learned was like, even when shit's bad, like try to communicate. You have to communicate, or people will just assume the worst.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So you say instead of running away, like that was gonna ask you, how did you deal with it? It's it's Sally, you just you fucking ate your shit, you you got back the fuck up, and you just kept going day or day. And you like, let's walk. What was the first conversation you had to have with someone? You must have owed them a lot of money. Like, can you walk us through that?
SPEAKER_00:There was a gentleman that had lent the network some money, and uh, we had personally guaranteed it, and he could have buried me and we couldn't pay it back. How much was it about? A couple million bucks. And uh he was gonna give us more. And I realized how bad the AR was. We didn't have the receivables. It was like this. I'm like, oh, ABC Company owes us$376,000. So I call a BBC company, I'm like, hey guys, uh, and you owe us$376,000. It's like three months due. They're like, no, we paid all that. You we owe you$14,000. And then you're like, oh fucking God, that's a problem. Call another one and like, hey, you owe us$90 grand. Like, we owe you six grand over, over, over. So I call this guy, I'm like, you're gonna loan us all this money based on AR. Like, you're fucking dude. Well, so I technically did kill the business because I knew that if we borrowed that money, it would just be fucking someone else. Yeah. And uh, so that took some real pride to kind of save someone else. Um, but you know, there were times where people were expecting wires and I didn't have any money. I had I had no control of those bank accounts at that time, even. I I learned my lessons, and I'm like, too, sorry, I got nothing for you. Yeah. First, it's like some other people involved in that business were telling people wires weren't on the way. Well, you don't do that if it's nowhere. If you really have a procking problem, even if it's really bad, you got to just communicate it because it makes it way worse if you don't. Yeah. Like if I told you, if I owed you some money and I'm like, look, dude, don't got it. Sorry, bro. Like, we'll figure it out. Literally don't have it. Versus, hey man, check tomorrow, it's gonna hit and then it doesn't, you're gonna be so much more pissed. Like, just communicate. Be honest. And like outside of a business failure, when I was like a big media buyer, I would want to run something, maybe it's a little aggressive. I would tell the advertiser, yo, here's my ad. Okay, care? Like, is it is this too too much? Whatever. Change that. Great, thank you. Or I had traffic sources where literally I had the exclusive for certain verticals because I would just tell them what I'm doing, and other people tried to hide shit or be shady or aggressive. And it's like, just communicate, man. If you're transparent with your partners, you're gonna have a lot more fun and you're gonna make a lot more money when you do business. So you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I love it. Thanks for sharing that. And uh, you know, the reason why I wanted you to share it's obviously people will see, well, you guys have done a ring by boat, and not just this, you've had a lot of successes. You guys saw your Sonic Jets. I mean, you're doing amazing, like really incredible stuff, right? And for trying. Yeah, and and and yeah, and then you're you're humble about it. And that's the thing, it's not just uh all the glitz and the glamour. I was just done with Allianz, which is funny because I don't know, I don't think you were there. Carlos Crota did a mastermind in Miami in October of 2022. Were you at that one? I didn't I didn't maybe it's there. Okay. Adam Young spoke about Allianz insurance there. Someone asked about receiver uh protecting your like Altus or the Yeah, it's bro. I wrote it down. I think I spelled Allianz wrong. I didn't even realize it was the Allianz, the German company. I had no fucking clue. I did nothing with that information and I proceeded to get fucked. I probably got I think 250, 300 grand, I got fucked, right? And then uh I finally signed up for Allianz. They just bailed me out of a big solar company that went out of business, right? I just got paid about three or four weeks ago on those guys. And they got burned. Yeah, yeah, no, I and uh yeah, they they lost. Well, I I I paid my policy. But the point is that this is the thing, man. You gotta like, you got you gotta you gotta share these things and talk about like what worked, what don't work, because that's other people will learn from it, right? If they if they don't know that I got burned or like this happened, they're not gonna be able to learn from it. And that's the best way to be successful.
SPEAKER_00:No, it truly is. If you can pass some knowledge on and help someone else, they're gonna help you out too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And the point I'm just saying, like people see on the outside, okay, I people don't see all the bullshit you have to go through to get to where you're at. They see where you're at where they perceive you being at, but they don't they don't know about those stories, right? So that's why I wanted to we're gonna do more of Daniel Logis, you know, bring more of those stories out because that's how people grow.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I I think what what you said just now, I thought about something, and uh, like I have a friend who's ran some big call centers. In these call centers are selling, like it was like they were doing something for solar or something, and the revenue's huge, you know, run tens of thousands of dollars a day. And all the employees, essentially these these, you know, the call center agents, they see the number on the board. Well, let's say$250,000, and they essentially go, they made$250,000 today. Oh, yeah. They forget about the costs associated to run the business with her. He's like, dude, I made money, but if it ain't$250,000, it's like a 10% margin. Like it's still making a lot of money, but you know, like you can make people aware of everything. They see what you're doing, they know, oh, okay. And and they're gonna be better employees or partners or colleagues or whatever it is. You know, it's just the way it, you know, the people know, they're gonna they're gonna understand, right?
SPEAKER_01:And I guarantee you, because I know our fucking solar was a disaster, they may be pulling that kind of and 10%, doesn't matter if you're doing fucking a million dollars a day. That's not it's rich reward at the end of the day. It's not a good business model. And I've done that too. I've been there where massive numbers from uh top line, and then someone doesn't fucking pay you. And I guarantee you that guy or that girl over the run that fucking business, they had solar companies go out of business, I didn't pay them.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, you may have been doing it when just like six months ago, whenever like hundreds of millions of dollars have lost.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was me. That was I was part of that shit, man, right? So the point is that just overnight, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, overnight, and the contractors got burned.
SPEAKER_01:That's like mom and pop businesses because it's adopt it's serious shit, man. But the point is that people don't see it. They start counting other people's money. It's not running a business is like it's so crazy, man. You get it, right? That's why no matter how success, and that what I've noticed too, because I used to have a scarcity mindset, yeah. I grew up in uh inner city, like in Newark, New Jersey, Elizabeth, kind of like Philadelphia areas, right? And I used to think rich people were bad, they're fucking greedy of this and that, right? And what I don't know, but but it was a bad mindset, right? And then I got out of the thing. Got it. If I if I didn't if I didn't get out of that fucking mindset, I wouldn't be doing the things I'm doing now. But you don't realize all this pressure, the stress. I know guys are putting up stupid numbers with no money. Yeah, but they're they're putting up dumb numbers, but and and they they got money to bake, but they live scared because they they got people to feed, they worry about oh, I got a thousand people, I gotta make pay or I gotta do this. There's a lot of stress, man. And sometimes is that fucking stress even worth it, man.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, from a business perspective, I don't look at the payroll for like a month, I look at it for like 12. Like, do I have enough money for 12 months of payroll with zero cash flow? Okay, I can run a business. Just in case, right? Just in case, right? Like, you never know. Um, but that's you know, that's that's like the the solar stuff is wild, and that it really is. It's uh that's a good point.
SPEAKER_01:You mean I love that you said that because um we had someone uh prior, Nigel, he talked about taxes, right? So he has to fasten tax guys, he saved a lot of money with that. We always focus on top line, making money, making money, but how do you save money, right? What do you do to protect insurance, protect?
SPEAKER_00:You've said remind my dad used to say this. My dad's a finance guy, yeah, retired dogs and trades. You know, it's really easy to make a lot of money, and the hard part's keeping it. 100%. It's true. You know, I I it's taking me time to learn how to save and not just blow money on stupid shit, honestly. It's not, you know, it takes it's I think everyone learns eventually, right? You know, that's that's it's important lesson.
SPEAKER_01:So what what what is your advice? Because let's talk with the people that are people that are making good money. They're making good top line money, maybe that the margins are pretty decent. Well, what what's your advice to them in terms of uh accumulating wealth?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, don't fucking spend it. I don't know. Um no, I think you know, just just going after yield's a good thing, right? I mean, I can say that I've honestly been too conservative and kept money in cash from I shouldn't have, um, which is like lame. When I look back, I'm like, wow, could have really made some money buying those dips. But, you know, I think the main thing is just keep hustling. Like, seriously, I I I've I've seen people get fat and happy. You got something good going, and then you just stop trying because they think it's gonna last forever. Or you stop trying because they got this and this this egg. Isn't that isn't that why don't you build it? Like, why give up? Like the sky's the limit. I don't know. Take it, right?
SPEAKER_01:If the money's there, why not grab it off the tree, right? Exactly. And that's what I love about you. I think you have this perpetual hunger. And I think a lot of good successful entrepreneurs, I mean, they could just they can just fucking like like Elon Musk, man. I the one thing I the guy's got how much? Uh 500, some super number time. He's still trying to get people on the move. He's got this this thirst and this hunger, right? So would you say, because you guys have Ringba, you have multiple businesses, right? And you you're you're in AVA, sonic flights, all this stuff. Like, is that what you mean about also like find new revenue streams and diversify that way, or how I mean uh the you know, maybe just don't get complacent about whatever you're doing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Um, you know, it it's funny, you mentioned the sonic flight stuff. The reason that I I stuck, you know, that started was as an accident. Frankly, I flew private once. And I thought, ah, these people suck. Like the the brokers. And uh then three, six months, three or four months later, one of my good friends who I've known since kindergarten, he hits me up. He's like, dude, can you figure out this jet shit? I need your help. But then week later I had him in the air. And then like for a year, it was just like a couple friends I helped out. Yeah. And I kind of learned it. And now, like, we're you know, like a player in this industry, we're doing you know, real volume, we're flying billionaires around, and he, you know, and it's I I didn't intend to make a lot of money with it, but it started to make money, and we're gonna continue to grow and invest into that business. But like, dude, if you can find something like that that you truly have fun with, then it's really gonna be a moneymaker. Like right now, we make some money with it. It's not huge, but it's getting there. And and I love that industry because everyone's fucking lazy. They all work like nine to two. It's like you should be 24 hours a day, right? Yeah, they're not. So that's why I think I think we're gonna really crush that industry, and you'll see a lot of from us in that world too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you know what? I I'm gonna talk about something you just made me think about. It's like the LFG show, what we're doing right now. This started out and thank here's Adam Young walks by at a really appropriate time. It's fucking amazing, right?
SPEAKER_00:So annoying.
SPEAKER_01:He's been trying to get me on for a while. Yeah. So the point is that it's like a that's like a passion thing for you, like a passion project that's starting to be.
SPEAKER_00:We ought to teach. Now it was just me for a while. Now we have like five people there, and we're starting to do some aircraft management stuff. So we're it's not just a brokerage where we're like thirty, you know, like PHB manager control that uh people are flying in. You know, it's it's crazy how much money's in that industry. And I'll just I'll just put it this way: what got me interested in that world from like the management side, outside of just selling people flights, yeah. So there's like 500 operators out there running these companies. All 500 of them have one thing they market in common. And it's to the people that own the planes. It's like you'll never make money, you can't make money, and the reason is because you can't, because they take all of it. That's a big grift. And so I've essentially started to already make a little bit of enemies because I'm breaking the model. Wow. I'm going to crush these people. And that's my plan.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's what you got. You're a disruptor, man. That that's fuck that's exciting. He makes me excited, man. And uh, bro, that that that's fucking uh that that's amazing stuff. I want to ask you something, and if you don't want to share about this, you'll have to, man. So uh you guys flew with Grant Cardot, right? He was a customer of ours, yeah. I did explain the whole thing, yeah. How that goes out.
SPEAKER_00:Funny, interesting one. Um actually, uh a customer of mine messages me a screenshot of uh it's like a Facebook post from Grant Cardot, and it was like, hey, I need a jet from Florida to France on this date. It has to be this aircraft or better. Yeah, email my assistant, whatever, my COO is a COO. So I I look at that and I just go, I like no, no way. He's getting a million emails. Like, there's no way, that's ridiculous. So I'm like, pack it. And then my client messaged me again. He goes, Dude, did you message him? I go, bruh, like I don't really go for the when I first started this, like literally, I was a whore. I will sell you a flight, make$300 or$40,000. Like, I'll just take it, take it, take it. I don't do that anymore because like when shit goes bad on the$300 flight, I'm gonna lose money$100. And I can't do that over and over again at those margins. It's not sustainable. So I go, okay, if he goes, dude, you gotta do it, you're the best. You gotta email Greg Cardone, just do it. So I email him, I go, you know what, screw this, screw all these other people. So I send the email, I go, hey, I'll do it for break-even. I don't want to make money, just like, just give me a shout out. Like, I just want to win your business. Like, let me take care of you. Like, let's see if I can do something for you. 20 minutes later, the CEO replies, she's like, We got three other brokers on this. What do you got? And so then what I do is I hit up one of my broker, like one of my operator friends that likes Grant Cardone. He's like a friend of mine. I go, hey bro, what can you do for me? Here's the trip, it's a grant, and he goes, here's the price. I saved Grant 50 grand at least. And we made like no money. We really didn't. And I was like, yeah, but I so we actually, Adam and I flew out just to like say what's up. And and mainly, hey, yeah, big kind of new high-profile client. We'll check out the airplane before. So if it wasn't someone that I wanted to like shake their hands, I would have had someone go to the airport for him and pay him a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure everything's good, right? But for him, I was like, I want to meet this guy, it's super cool. So he had uh sold his airplane earlier last year because of an April Fool's joke. So the reason why he flew with me and not on his own airplane is because last year on April Fool's joke day, he made a post saying that business was hard. I remember that he had a margin call. Yeah, and then he had to sell his plane. Someone sent him an LOI, a letter of intent, immediately for a number that was so appetizing. He said, Fuck it, I'll sell the plane. It made sense. He sold the plane, so he booked that, and then he booked, I think, one or two other trips with us, and then he bought a new plane. So I'm I'm done. I I'm sure he'll come back. Yeah. Well, yeah, planes in maintenance or something, but cool to have him as a customer. And uh, you know, I thought it was awesome. It's cool to have that. Come by.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, thank you for sharing that story. I remember seeing that. And at first I was like, that real? That's freaking awesome, man. And I think that this is another thing is the proximity, the networking. Like, I built my business through networking, right? We're flying private. We're you in private, uh, we're doing sonic flights to go to uh Vegas from Miami to affiliate summer, right? And we got some heavy hitters on there, some that you connected us with. People putting it ridiculous on multiple nine figures a year that are gonna be on that jet. And players. So people are like, listen, you could fly first class, I don't know what it is fucking one ways, whatever. Yeah, I don't know what it is. It's like 2500 bucks or something. Yeah, but are you gonna are you gonna be with someone in your industry for five hours in a tin can talk?
SPEAKER_00:And like in a tin can, yeah. You're you're like, I I I've done these types of flights where it says me and a bunch of people in the industry. Seriously, like it's not some party. Like, there's fucking money getting made. Business is being done. I I have seen multiple like, hey, nice to meet you, cool. And they talked for a few hours in the airplane, and then like six months later, I like like dude, I that's like my business partner. Or like I, you know, it's it's a real it's a real thing. And and you're right, the names I see on these trip sheets, yeah, like you know, in our industry, outside of our industry, like I Google everyone. And I'm like, oh shit, wow, wow, wow. Because I don't know who all these people are. Uh, you know, with with the the aviation business, you'd be surprised. A lot I don't talk to a lot of these people, it's a lot of assistants or whatever. And then I'm like, hmm, you know, who is this person? Oh, whoa, they're an executive in Netflix. Oh, whoa, they're this, you know. I used to care about the celebrities. Now I like to see, and when I see someone that's like Forbes list, like, no shit, that's cool.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's awesome. And that's all I'll say, guys. I mean, maybe it's a little bit of a stretch. Step out of your comfort zone, pay a little bit of extra. I mean, the first time I flew primary was with you guys. We flew, uh, I think it was to affiliate summit last year. I don't know where it was at, but it was such a good feeling, man. And like, you it's like you elevate your stuff, you level up a little bit, and then you don't want to go back. And that's what life's about. It's about progress. And I'm not saying you have to do it every single fucking time, but when it makes sense, do it. So you're gonna see a lot more LOG collaboration with Sonic. I guarantee you that, man. And this guy, I can't wait. The group we have is gonna be a fun group. We're gonna transact some goodies. I'll get it. Yeah, he says some goodies, man. All right, man. So let me let my letter. We're about to wrap it up here. We're at this show. What what what's what are you excited about in 2026, man?
SPEAKER_00:You know, I I think um, you know, there was some some turbulence in some of the insurance markets this last year, and I think that actually benefits people. It cleans up, it it cleans shit up and brings growth. So I think there's gonna be some some whoever hustles hard and innovates, they're gonna crush it. So I'm looking forward to seeing kind of that next chapter. Uh Ringba X is like finally off to the race. Uh, you know, we kind of took a slow, we slow slowly. So what's Ringba X or just in case people don't know what it is? It's a it's a programmatic call exchange. So if you're you're you know buying media and selling calls and you use Ringba, you should definitely ask for an intro to the Ringbax team. Okay. We're we're only accepting on the sell side Ringba customers, or essentially if you have calls that are going nowhere because you have limited capacity, Ringbax can help kind of plug in some additional buyers that maybe able to buy that into our exchange. So if there's if they want to buy it, they'll bid and they'll take those calls too. Then on the other side, if you're buying calls and you have some, let's say some gaps in your, you know, the your the supply that you need, you can come in and bid and grab it. Um, and you know, we we've launched it over like three years because we wanted to keep it like quality and make sure it's it's a compliant experience for buyers because with taper call, you know, it can be finicky. You gotta you gotta be careful, sir.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's great. I love it. Man, guys, this was great. I'm so glad we've been trying to do this podcast for a long time, maybe a year. It's like we always have scheduling issues. I'm leaving, he's leaving like anywhere, but we happen to be here, great time. I'm excited to do more silver green by Sonic Slice. We'll fucking kill it. Guys, watch this. This is you dropped a lot of lessons that you went deep on this one. Thank you. You motherfuckers better watch this shit. Let me know. Put your comments there. Let me know what you fucking learned. Let's know how much money you make. I'll answer the comments. If you answer, I'll answer them. Yeah, that's a fucking proximity right there. Take advantage, guys. Harrison. Great. Oh, sorry, you let it go. Thanks, bro. Legend of the year, baby. Let's fucking go. Your network is your net worth. We got a fucking crazy network of people. I'm not telling me your average motherfucker. I'm talking about people doing$300,000,$400,000,$500,000 a day in admin. People that made billions of dollars in sales. People exit their companies for about a billion dollars. We hit 100 episodes. Guess what? We're about to take shit to the next level. So you want to be part of it? Subscribe right now. Remember, no money, no money.