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SATOSHI, POLITICS & THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN ft. Jayson Winer

David Stodolak

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🚨 SATOSHI, BITCOIN, POLITICS & THE FUTURE OF MONEY 🚨

On this episode of The LFG Show, David Stodolak sits down with independent Florida Governor candidate Jayson Winer for a WILD conversation covering Bitcoin, Web3 politics, entrepreneurship, addiction recovery, affordability in America, and the future of digital ownership. 🌎💰

Who really is Satoshi Nakamoto? Maybe we never find out… but Jayson explains why the REAL story is bigger than one person. Bitcoin represents a monetary system nobody controls — and that changes everything. ⚡

We break down Bitcoin ordinals, inscriptions, digital ownership, and why many believe Bitcoin is evolving far beyond just a “store of value.” If NFTs, Ethereum, ordinals, and Web3 have ever confused you, this episode simplifies it in plain English while diving deep into permanence, provenance, decentralization, and ownership in the digital era.

But this episode goes WAY beyond crypto…

🏠 Florida housing prices
📈 Interest rates crushing the middle class
🗳️ Web3-native political campaigns
📲 Gen Z attention & modern media
💊 Addiction, recovery & entrepreneurship
🥃 Clean tequila & the American food system
🧠 Ibogaine & alternative healing
💸 Building wealth without losing yourself

Jayson shares his raw personal journey from opioid addiction to Wall Street, life insurance, entrepreneurship, and now politics — while discussing the mental traps that come with fast money, attention, and success.

This is one of those episodes that blends:
🔥 finance
🔥 politics
🔥 business
🔥 personal growth
🔥 freedom
🔥 technology
🔥 culture

…all into one powerful conversation.

If you care about Bitcoin, markets, entrepreneurship, freedom, Florida politics, or simply taking more control over your future, this episode is for you.

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Satoshi, Bitcoin, And Big Claims

SPEAKER_01

Toshi Nakamoto is dead. No one knows who he is. No one ever will know who he is. And I'll tell you why. Because we got Jason Weiner running for governor of Florida. This guy's got an amazing story. So many politicians are boxed into a political party and they're boxed into so much corruption. And I'm running my political campaign on a very, very interesting platform, and I'm using Web3 and Ordinal technology to really catapult my campaign.

SPEAKER_00

Before we talk about Bitcoin, what's your price target? One year from now, five years from now, ten years from now.

SPEAKER_01

The only reason why it's been going up is because institutional money is a layer. Retail hasn't gotten involved yet. So I think we're in for a FOMO event where it's not just gonna go up 120,000, 300,000. It's gonna go up to $2,3 million. What percent of the American population owns Bitcoin? So right now we're at 5% global user rate. Same way the internet was in 1999. When Ordinal Technology gets out, the global user rate for Bitcoin is going to be 70-80%. It's a real world use case. Approving and out by running for governor while my competition is using Web 2, which I believe is archaic methods. Okay, everything's expensive. Florida, I'm looking at houses now like I get pissed off. We need people to own homes because home ownership is the key to family foundation. If a family feels secure and comfortable enough to be able to buy a home, then they feel secure enough to grow a family.

SPEAKER_00

Business people, especially when you've made money, like you're not a puppet. And I think that's why we need more business people running.

SPEAKER_01

No, 100%. Most politicians have these outside funding sources that are controlling their narrative, controlling their agenda. A businessman comes around who has no agenda. I speak my truth, and that's it. You won. How are you gonna fix his affordability? Our biggest problem is a macroeconomic problem. Yeah.

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Jason Weiner Runs As Independent

SPEAKER_00

We're taking shit to a whole nother level. We're with Eric Trotman last week. He's running for Congress and Irvine. He's making a lot of inroads now. And we got Jason Weiner running for governor of Florida. This guy's got an amazing story. Guys, if you're in whatever fucking business you're in, a lot of our audience are business owners, they're media buyers. You gotta know what the fuck is going on politically. I made a lot of money with solar. Obama helped that happen. Biden helped that happen, right? Trump got rid of it, but now Trump's making other stuff happen. Regardless of whatever, you got to follow the fucking money. You gotta follow what's going on. And we got a gentleman here, Jason Weiner. It's not about the money for him. This guy's made a lot of money. This guy's owned tequila brand. He's made money on Wall Street with insurance, life insurance, which I know you guys are excited to hear about. But this guy wants to leave an impact. We're talking about fucking additism tequila. We're talking about the American food supply. We're talking about big shit. At the end of the day, comes down to control. And you want to vote for people that are going to help you make more money, make your family have a better fucking life. And I'm honored to have him on the show. This is fucking amazing. Great to have you, Jason. It's an honor to be here.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you for having me. Um, I'm I'm excited to to uh to spend the next uh hour and a half with you and really go through the journey and let's fucking go. Yeah, I'm I'm a politician, so I have to be a little more a little more refined now.

SPEAKER_00

But but people are liking this. I'm hearing that more more people are cursing, more politicians are cursing than ever. I saw something, I don't know if it was New York Times, Democrats versus Republicans. Like, why is there all of a sudden a sudden surge in cursing? Did you see that chance? No. By the way, when we start LFG show, people are like, Dave, you're cursing too much. I think we got shadow ban on LinkedIn. Bleep bleep, and now everyone's fucking cursing. Adam Young's fucking cursing. I like, I feel like we broke the fucking mode. And now politicians, I'm not saying we're the ones, I think Gary V's. I saw Tony Robbins in 2007, I was shocked how much he cursed. He said he did it for impact. People fucking curse. He curses. Now politicians are cursing, right? I think they're trying to connect.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it hits different, right? And I first I'm I'm the least politically correct politician out there. Yeah, fucking curse, boy. They're gonna love it. I I believe that you know, so many politicians, I'm running as an independent, and uh so many politicians are are are boxed into a political party and they're boxed into so much uh corruption or just uh hair from their past. And you we see from the success of Donald Trump that a businessman's gonna have success. And I'm running my political campaign on a very, very interesting platform or a different strategy than really anyone in human in human history ever has. And I'm using Web3 and ordinal technology to really catapult my campaign because my art and my politics mirror each other. So aside from being a tequila maker and I have my history in Wall Street, yeah, art became my truest passion, and now really it's kind of became politics because I through my art I kind of um started uh really seeing the world in a unique perspective, um, and seeing through all the propaganda because there's so much propaganda nowadays. It's insane. There's so every everyone's just just being uh having uh reading agenda-based news. Um and it's scary out there, and I think truth uh there has to be an aspect of truth in society, and I think Bitcoin art, ordinal technology is really what's going to bring it. It's very fascinating. And I know a lot of your uh viewers are are business people, and I cannot stress enough. It is, you know, I know NFTs have a tainted name um because of uh for numerous reasons, but ordinal technology, it's it is what the NFTs on Bitcoin, it is going to be the next

Bitcoin Ordinals And Permanent Ownership

SPEAKER_01

biggest thing.

SPEAKER_00

So what is ordinal technologies for? Like, because I I don't know what it is, I'm sure 99% from can you all break it down for Lamus here?

SPEAKER_01

So okay, so I I don't know how many of your uh following or was into NFTs, but previously was on Ethereum. I I still have some fucking NFTs. I don't even know where the hell is so Ethereum uses smart contracts. Yeah, okay, so basically it's a layer one. When you put it on layer under layer one, it's there's um the vulnerabilities to it, there's a centralization to it. There is new technology that came out right after the last run collapsed, and it's called ordinals. They use a protocol. So what they do is essentially, I'm an artist, so I took my art and I inscribe it directly on a Satoshi, um, as opposed to having a layer in between it. What that does is you basically fuse your art onto a Bitcoin and it's there forever, eternity. So from an artist's perspective, and like I've been on this journey for four or five years now, because I learned so much about the history of art. So much of art, historically speaking, has been able to be altered, modified, or got corrupted. Like even the like the most famous pieces of art had modifications to it. And even on Ethereum NFTs, uh the reason I learned about this is because my first project failed tremendously. And I was I didn't like the art. I wanted to change it, and I realized I was able to change it. So it was it had the capabilities to be altered. But this is really the first time in human history that humans could inscribe something similar to the Bible. The Bible was inscribed here for eternity, same exact book that was written 3,000 years ago, same exact lettering. Now, ordinary humans could do the same, and it's not just for art, it's really for any important documentation, a song, right? We see like musicians, they create a song, and then the the record label does doesn't like the nuances or they want to send a different message, right? But the artist wants to ensure that his creation is what he actually created, but uh now they actually are able to inscribe it directly on Satoshi and uh uh contain ownership of it, which is really it's own ownership and permanence. So it's is this technology is not out yet, it's not popularized yet, and it's really what I believe is the future, true and true and true. I believe it not only that for the Bitcoin, it gives Bitcoin a multi-purpose. It used to be Bitcoin only had a purpose, just to be this you know, store of value in the sky, you can't really do anything with it other than just you know all these believers uh who believe it's the future, then you have nails thing is a Ponzi scheme, right? But now, once you give it a multi-purpose real life use case, then it becomes it give validates it. That's sort of validates it, and then really it's how Bitcoin exposed to the moon.

SPEAKER_00

So it comes out of scarcity, right? You have a scarce the this it be it being inscribed, it's kind of like I have a buddy of mine. You saw what happened with Paul, was it Logan Paul? He got a fucking Pokemon kind of card like four million, so 15 million. I bought a fucking talking about politics. I can't we gotta do something of this. We I bought a Hillary Clinton magazine, one of one in the world, one of one with my buddy. I have a buddy, he's a Wall Street trader, bond trader, mortgage backed securities, pet trader, he's trades over a billion D in mortgage backed securities. He has a side thing where he buys like rare uh physical assets, Super Mario games. He bought a Mario game for like seven grand, sold it for a hundred grand, then rebought it for 25 grand. So he's got like a million dollars worth of this shit in his house. And um he I'm in some chat with him. We call it the D Gen Wall. I don't know what the fuck we call this shit, but I'm in this fucking thing. Yeah, it's so it's and it makes money, bro. Let's fucking go. It's a real shit. So anyway, he's like, bro, I want to buy this fucking magazine. I think it's gonna go for 50 grand. And like, yo, I would get into that with you because politics to me is the greatest sport, it's the greatest, it's the greatest theater, right? Is what it is. They we talk about control, and I feel like Craig, I don't know, we'll talk about it later on. I'm gonna go deep here, but I feel like the media using politics to divide us, they use it to sell fucking products, they create these fucking narratives, right? And America's more divided than ever, but bro, people are spending more than ever, right? So I feel like it's a whole fucking ploy. I mean, I could be wrong. I'm curious to hear what you say, but anyway, when he's when I saw this Hillary Clinton magazine, it said Madam President. Newsweek thought she won. They started printing magazine, Madam President, and it was signed. So I thought she signed. I'm like, wow, and there's only one of these. I'm like, this is fucking great. This is this is gonna be worth money one day, especially when she passes away. Was she 80? I don't know what this is gonna probably shoot in value. So I'm like, bro, I'll go 50-50 with you on this. Let's let's he's like, how much do you want to go up to? I said, I'll go up to 20 grand, maybe 25 grand. We'll split it. We won the fucking thing for 19,000. I it's only one, and guess what? It wasn't Hillary who signed it. Donald Trump signed it to fuck with the troll her. So I think that yo, I think it makes it even more valuable, you know? I agree. So I'm like, I had no clue. And I found out after we won this shit, like, bro, I thought the whole time that was Hillary who signed it. So I had no fucking clue, but I'm so happy to own this fucking thing because if there's one in the world, I feel like someone's gonna fucking buy it one day for six figures, maybe who knows what. I'm not, I'm buying and holding this bitch, you know? It's it's scarcity at the end of the day. Well, what I would recommend you doing is taking uh inscribing it on a satoshi.

SPEAKER_01

Boom, and next level shit. And then everyone, next level shit, guys. Listen, then the whole world knows who owns it. And if you're gonna sell it, you sell it on a satoshi and a couple of things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but they can't rob me. We're told your boy, you got robbed fucked in a faena. They took his Rolex. Okay, that's why I worry about talking about it as long as I come fucking my house, boom, boom. I shouldn't even talk about this shit.

SPEAKER_01

No, but it's about it's about recognition. No, it's like first of all, you put in a safe deposit box. Okay, but but scarcity is collectibles, right? That that is that is the the essence of it, and that's what Bitcoin really really why Bitcoin is so valuable is because of the scarcity aspect. You could never recreate Bitcoin. Satoshi Nakamoto is dead. Yeah, no one knows who he is, no one ever will know who he is.

SPEAKER_00

You think so? I wonder there's all these movies coming out. They honey, you see that they say they claim to have found

Satoshi’s Mystery And Price Targets

SPEAKER_00

there's two or three people they think this is the fucking Satoshi.

SPEAKER_01

Let me tell you something. Satoshi Nakamoto is 1000% dead, and I'll tell you why. Because it's against human nature not to tell anyone what you've created and not to sell a single ounce of what to profit from what you did. That is what gives us power, is that we don't know who he is, and we never will know who he is. We would have known who he is by now if it was meant to be known. It's not meant to be known, it's much more spiritual than people understand. I do believe 1000% Bitcoin is going to take over the monetary system of the world. The current monetary system is completely corrupted. Completely. I mean, it's been it what is money when a government, good or bad, could just print trillions more of it, right? You just dilute it. But Bitcoin is the first monetary system humanity's ever had that can't be diluted.

SPEAKER_00

Before we talk about Bitcoin, you would what's your price target? You have a one one year from now, five years from now, ten years from now.

SPEAKER_01

Think about like this every other cycle in Bitcoin, we've had a FOMO event, right? The FOMO event is when retail and institutionals, institution apes in at the same time. In this cycle, it hasn't hit. The only reason why it's been going up is because institutional money's been layering. Yeah. Right? We have the largest institutions, governments, BlackRock, literally, who can move a trillion dollars with one click of the button, uh, moving a tremendous amount of capital. Um, we said we saw gold and uh silver and silver, precious metal go up a tremendous amount, the same way Bitcoin did. But when retail retail hasn't got involved yet, right? But we're all humans. Human nature is uh when a FOMO event happens, and then all of a sudden the people who can move 50 billion dollars at a time all of a sudden starts to I need to go, I need to get in. Right? You have retail and and institution going at the same time. We haven't seen that. Every other cycle you we've seen this spike of 20x, 30x, right? And then it kind of calms down, right? So I think we're we're in for a FOMO event where it's going to um go up. It's not just gonna go up to 120,000, four, three hundred thousand, it's gonna go up to two, three million dollars because you can see all these large institutions realize, have this realization that Bitcoin is the true monetary system of the world.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and you make a compelling argument, right? Because uh I what you're saying is accurate, but I don't know, maybe you know what percentage what percentage of users I I guess people own Bitcoin. Maybe what percent of the American population owns Bitcoin?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so right now we're at five percent global user rate, same way the internet was in 1999, 1996, right? Uh same era. Bitcoin, when ordinal technology gets out, the global user rate for Bitcoin is going to be 70-80%. So when do you think this happens? As soon as my collection launches. Love it. I'm the only one really trying to popularize it to the to the masses. Because I realize that um I see something that was really very few people see, and I'm I'm either going to be proven crazy or proven right. But I think I make a very compelling argument because it's it gives a very it gives a multi purpose, right? Because Bitcoin only only had a unilateral purpose. Now it has a multi-uh layer purpose, and it's a real-world use case. And I'm trying to I'm proving that out by running for governor while my competition is using web two, which I believe is archaic methods. I think I'll be able to reach a lot more voters with a lot uh stronger message. It's all about, you know, running a campaign is all about messaging to your voter base. Correct.

Web3 Campaigning And Gen Z

SPEAKER_01

And I believe I'll be able to get through to a lot more of them using my art collection than they are using $50 million worth of web too.

SPEAKER_00

I I I think also Gen Z, right? Gen Z understands. I mean, it's a Gen Z. I Gen Z was a Gen Z that Gen Z had a big role in Donald Trump being elected with his son Baron. He addressed the who he wanted the podcast of Joe, not was it Joe Rogan, he went to the Nelk Boys. He did stuff that that Kamala didn't do, or they they they she wasn't in touch with that audience, right? And you were talking about Barack Obama. When he when he won, he did similar stuff on uh uh he was advertising on Facebook, doing stuff other people were doing. So I think that Gen Z audience, that's that's the key. They're the future of the economy. They know what's going on with AI, they know they're if you you address that market with that kind of stuff, like yo, you're gonna say, fuck these old motherfuckers. I want to be with someone that understands or languages are using the technology. I think it makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

Well, because I have three daughters, I have 17, 13, 10-year-olds. So I speak like the youngsters, I speak no cap, yes cap.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even know that.

SPEAKER_01

No, but I mean, I mean, you gotta speak to everyone. And I listen, I'm I'm a businessman who comes from Wall Street, so I I speak to the 56 year olds the same way I speak to the 2030 year olds, because I'm kind of like an artist and a business businessman, a capitalist and and a libertarian because I want as few taxes as possible. I'm the exact opposite of like this big government. Like I'm a Bitcoin artist, so everything in my I I want I'm I'm very against big government, big pharma, and big banks. I'm a true Bitcoinist. Um, you know, because that's what Bitcoin really was created to kind of counteract this power that centralization gives these globalist elite uh to control the population with money. And forever, money I mean, this is the Rothschilds, uh, literary took over the world. Money's been used to control individuals, and it needs to end. And that's what gives Bitcoin gives the power back to the people. And that's why Bitcoin is so powerful, and people that's why the the the you know whatever people want people people want to call the deep state or whatever the the cabal, they're so threatened by Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin is one thing they can't control, they want unilateral unilateral control. And um I'm I'm against that. I like decentralization, I want to get the control and the power back to the people, and I want I want people to prosper, right? They want people to if you if they if they're trying to control people, then they ultimately want them to suffer, which is very sad. And people don't necessarily understand it and see it because they're too distracted by uh propaganda or the media. They're very, very good because they control the media. So they're very good at keeping people's minds occupied with shit that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this is some deep stuff we're talking about, and and uh you make me think about the the middle class,

Florida Housing Costs And Homeownership

SPEAKER_00

right? Uh I grew up in the uh in the 80s, Ronald Reagan was president. Where was I? I was watching something with my wife, and I feel like America's best times was like in the 90s, man. I could be wrong, but I feel like shit was good back then, man. You know, and I don't know, I don't know when America, I don't know if we want to say America peaked, or we're still maybe we're going through a tough time right now. I feel like it's like fucking everything's expensive, man. And and I don't know. Florida used to be all people come from Jersey, you get a house in Florida for I don't know what price, like half the price now. I don't know. I'm looking at houses now, like I get pissed off. Listen, I do well financially better than most people, but even me, I see these prices like what the fuck? I feel like it's gouging at this point, right? So when and I don't know how normal people do it. How the fuck, how does a teacher do it? How can they afford to live, man? And like, so why what would you do to help the I feel America needs a strong middle class without the fucking middle class?

SPEAKER_01

We need people to own homes. That's the most important thing. Because home ownership is literally the key to family foundation. If you if a family feels secure and comfortable enough to be able to buy a home, then they uh feel secure enough to grow a family. That's what we want. We want more kids. I want more kids. I'm very pro-God, pro-family. When when you are a pro-God individual, you naturally you're pro-family. Because family is the form of really creating the bond with God because you you see the your continuation, right? You know what's interesting? I'll I'll pivot a little bit to tequila and I'll give you a little bit of idea of what I feel. Okay, so Casa Malica is made from a plant called monocar script. People call it agave, but the scientific uh uh scientific name is called monocar script. The whole purpose of the monoc of the agave plant is to reproduce, but as tequila maker, so basically, the Jalisco, Mexico, there's this mountain, the only mountain in the world of blue. Aber agave comes from. And um the whole mountain is full of this beautiful blue Aber agave, and there's horses. And uh you know, I get the the first time I go there, I go to the mountain, and I I'm I I asked the local Mexican guy, and I'm like, uh, how many men does it take to work the field? He said, No men, you see the horses, they work the field. I said, How long does it take for the a blue aber agave to be made? So seven years. Seven years is a very spiritual number. I'm a very biblical guy. I love reading the scripture. Seven is a very important number. I saw him born July 7th, 7-7. Seven, seven. Boom, boom. So I I say to him, I'm like, uh I'm like, so you're telling me that there's no human interaction the whole process? No. I said only when it comes to working the field, to when it went when it's matured. He says, Wow, so I actually trademarked it straight from God because that's essentially what it is. I'm like, there's no human intervention. The only human intervention is when humans take it and add artificial sweetener to artificial sugar sugar. But, anyways, what I later learned, I didn't know this at the time, is that the purpose of a blueberry agave plant, or most of agave, the monarchars of what it means is it means to reproduce. So I'll explain to you what happens. So as an tequila maker, we harvest the field after seven years, seven, eight years. But if you allow it to get to nine years, so this whole nine, eight-year process is sitting on this massive mountain, the temperature switches from 80 degrees to 40 degrees, but during the daylight is massive amounts of sunlight. So the heart of it, you've seen an Agave plant before. You see these plants, the green and the middle of it is a heart. So the heart is soaking in the sun, all its energy from the sun. And after nine years, when it's fully matured, it sprouts up. It sprouts up, and the end of the sprout is seeds, and then it falls over and dies. So his whole purpose is to reproduce, which makes it a very spiritual plant, but really it's kind of similar to humanity, right? Our purpose is to reproduce and have our our lineage continue on, right? That's that's what the idea of it is. I believe there's a collective forcing in America that wants us not to reproduce. And I I'm that's really what I'm one of my main political aspects is really to be pro-life, pro-family. I want more kids, I want more babies. I want Florida to become a very prosperous state financially, but also in family-wise. I want I want uh really people to be able to come here, create homes for themselves, affordability, home pricing. But uh to circle back to our conversation, uh, the most important thing is for people to be able to buy homes. And Florida is actually the biggest benefactor to the economy. Overall economy, uh, they are the biggest benefactor of all states because most people want to move here. This is the greatest state in America, in my opinion. I think Miami is the greatest city in all the world. A lot of people want to move here, but the market the economy's been absolute shit. Just because stocks have been going up and big corporations have been making money, it doesn't mean people haven't uh our middle of the middle class has really been prosperous. They haven't been like the the real estate markets is sluggish because interest rates have been high. Even crypto, retail hasn't made money.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's down here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the people who have been made money are the institutions. So uh the only real only institutions have been prosperous in the past two years. So what we need to figure out a way how do we make prosperous for the middle class and lower class? Because ultimately they're they're the people who move the economy. When they feel like they could spend money because money is now no longer no longer tight, that's when the economy really starts to boom. And I think that's what, but I do believe it's a macroeconomic problem. I don't believe it's a microeconomic problem.

SPEAKER_00

So what can you do to fix that issue? Because again, Florida was I I moved here. The main reason I moved here was taxes, right? I had a nice year in 2022 where I fucking paid a lot of time, more taxes than ever. I thought I was done then. I had to pay more time. Like, man, fuck this shit. And uh my wife, I wanted to move her forever. We had another baby on the way, she has family here, she's Colombian. We closed at Columbia at a call center there. I'm I'm a Jersey motherfucker. I love Jersey, I love New York. I'm uh that's my favorite place. I just like the action, I like the activity, right? But the the taxes, I mean, there's shit that's not conducive, right? And you look at a lot of the infrastructure, like where the fuck's the tax money going? Doesn't make any sense. You come, I lived in South Carolina for many years. I saw uh modern, modern houses, modern infrastructure. I saw that. I saw it in Charlotte, North Carolina. Like, why are these southern states eclipsing the northern states with all the fucking money? Like something's disconnecting here, right? So we want to move in here. Now we're in a state. Our kid goes to a good school, she's happy, right? And and the bottom line is that, but I have seen the prices increase. We're spending a lot of money here. And what what like how do you fix that? I mean, you can be governed, like what would you you if you if you won, or what do you tell the audience why they should vote? How are you gonna fix this affordability? To me, that's the biggest issue right now in America. Affordability. Okay, so yeah, like I said, our biggest problem is a macroeconomic problem because we have a good portion of our government.

Education Battles And Tough-On-Crime Talk

SPEAKER_00

Uh, the Marxists. And by the way, he's this is a Wall Street guy, insurance guy. We haven't talked about that. We'll talk about later, right? So he knows what he's talking about. This isn't like someone just talking shit.

SPEAKER_01

We have an issue with uh Marxist, uh there are Marxist individuals that run our government who are using our tax money to fund their agenda. They're looting our government of our tax money. And I believe if they're you know, this is more of a federal problem, uh, but it is a statewide problem as well. If you think about it, they they've you see what's going on, the fraud in California, right? You see what's going on in Minnesota, right? Where there's hundreds of billions of dollars being defrauded. This is by design. There is familiar with Marxism? Okay, yeah. 100%. So Marxism, in my opinion, humble opinion, I'm I'm a religious person. I believe so Marxism, what they do is they remove God from all aspects of society. When you do that, it really becomes a religion of Satan. And that's really what you see is happening with our policies. So, as a God-fearing individual, and I know so many of people here in America are we don't want our tax dollars to be funding this movement. But for some reason, that is what their agenda is. And what they do is they demonize Donald Trump in order to create their base, right? They call Donald Trump Hitler, they try to make him look like he's this I I don't know where your stance is in politics. We never spoke about it, but I'll just make this argument, right? And I love history, and I study the scriptures, I love learning the Bible, I love really I I really that's what my passion is. You know, there's a there's there's typical Operation Valkyrie. You familiar with it? No, I did that. Was there a movie about that? There was a movie, precisely, yes. So in that movie, someone tried to assassinate Hitler, and they tried to compare Trump to Hitler, okay? Uh it didn't work. They blew up a table, Hitler was protected by the table. Was it a real story? It was a real story. It happened in July 20th, 1944. It actually happened. And then what happened afterwards? Hitler uh killed about a thousand people, and Gestapo arrested thousands more. And we see Trump has been uh attempted to be assassinated a number of times already, right? Is that what he does? No. Trump is a good leader. You know, some people think he's this, he's that, and the other. He's no, I mean he's they they demonize, they demonize him in order to create a base. They actually have no politics. Um, I'm very against, and I I believe, in a my humble opinion, uh, I believe that the for the most part, um, the Democratic Party is ran by a globalist regime who do not have American agenda in mind at all. They have a globalist agenda and my and and and therefore if they pursue a globalist agenda, then they're actually de facto traitors and they've committed high treason. They want us to be home of the coward, land of the slave. We are home of the brave, land of the free. And in order for us to take our big our our cities, our identity back, the globalists have a pursuit of uh a new world order, and they want to denationalize our nation by taking our major cities. They've taken our major cities already. They've taken Chicago, they've taken Los Angeles. I hope Spencer Pratt wins, by the way. I was gonna talk about him, and I'm glad you brought him up. I'm a very big fan of his. I mean, he's fighting the machine the same way I'm trying I am doing. Um, and um but he's doing in a very wonderful way. How's he doing in the polls right now? Do you know? Listen, they said a debate. They said a debate, and he destroyed uh the Karen Bassoul. That's what he calls her. Uh Karen Bass. Absolutely destroyed her because they have no argument. They have no, they don't actually have any policies. Their policy is to destroy America from within. They want drug addiction on the streets, they want homelessness, they want murders and rapists to run freely in our streets. Soft iron crime is harsh on society.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna tell you about me, right? I grew up in Jersey, very Democrat, right? Especially when I grew up. I mean, I think I don't know who the Christie won. He was the first Republican. I like Christie. Christie was very like fucking, like he would fight people. He was he stood up, right? He stood his ground. He wasn't he would curse, he wasn't politically correct. I think he's one of the first that kind of helped break the mold, right? So he was probably the first republic. I remember fucking winning over there. And I went to NYU and I I had a very bad uh belief system. And I I took the chance, the producer of the show about, you know, at some point what I want to do with LFG, grow this, and I want to give back society. I want to help the youth. I want to help them like get out of these scarcity mindsets. Everything in your mind, everything in your life is about your mind. What did you believe in yourself? That kind of stuff. Because there were points where I didn't believe myself. I thought I had an inferiority complex. Um, and I thought fucking, I thought capitalists were bad people. I studied economics and NYU and I learned some dogma that really wasn't the best for me. But as I got into business, I realized, you know, a lot of these business guys, what the fuck are you talking? These are good people. They're giving back society, they're doing this, doing that. And I do firmly believe America does need more business people in politics, right? This fucking career politician shit's got to end. They don't fucking, what are they doing for you? They're just running to win. You need people that understand how to run a fucking business, that can got their ass in the line, run the American budget, right? So I'm I'm all in favor of that. I really believe you need that. And I fully think business people can help. Like I think like uh, you know, people that have had success can help. Okay, how do you create jobs? How do you create good pages? How do you incentivize people to produce, right? So that that would to me would be if I I've thought about I mean uh uh Eric was with me at a party, and I don't know if you were there when I was talking about running for mayor. I don't know. Were you there? I was banged up like that's I'm fucking running from air, Miami. Fuck this shit. And I had like every my whole thing was reverse immigration. I wasn't import Asians and Indians to Miami. I'm like, we're gonna mix with the Latinas, we're gonna have these babies, right? And they're gonna be smart, they're gonna be disciplined, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? That was my whole agenda, right? So we had all these internet markers gonna help me. They're all fucking pumped up for an hour. Adam Young thought it was a dumbass idea. Fuck it, I don't care, whatever. But so I decided I'm not gonna do that until the next time I get banged up. But my whole thing is like that's gonna actually create jobs. You get these people that have these fucking, they work hard, they earn money, they're strict or disciplined, it'll help, right? So that was my whole thing. But go make a long story short. Business people are thinking we we we can you, I put I risk my company, all right? I risk there's times I couldn't make fucking payroll. I use my savings to pay payroll. But we've done, we've taken these risks. So I think people are taking risks that you said before, do it one time and then you're you're you're what did you say? Someone along those lines. One time and you're it. And you're it, right? So business people are walk the fucking walk. They're not just talking shit to win a fucking vote, right? I think and they don't care. And I think that's the appeal to you. Like, you don't have to win this. I mean, you got your your ranch, you've made money, right? You're doing this, you really believe you're making a difference. And I think that's the kind of people we need. Wow, and that could solve the affordability issue.

SPEAKER_01

I want to help humanity, and I truly believe that um, first of all, there's many things in Florida that we could uh increase home ownership, such as you know, right now that it's it's regulated. You can't, you know, they have these pre-created houses. So because there's a lot of outside forces, they don't want that because though there's a lot of um builders, and I think I want individuals to be able to buy homes as quickly as possible for as cheap as possible. I would love for there to be no home income tax, right? Uh DeSante's trying to to pass the asking to pass. You know, I don't know because you know, listen, and me, I'm also a businessman, so the the government has to run.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I love that you said that, right? Because it sounds good on theory, it's a good hot topic, but like can you can you real I would love that too, but can we actually fucking do it? In practicality, could it work?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I think so. Really, but so what what I was actually saying is that okay, so at a macro level, if the economy reopened, really started flourishing again, because it's capable of doing it, because really this this the sentiment is actually very positive, but we have this force bringing down the economy that wants to bring down the economy and stealing a trillion dollars that you're in our tax money. So we if we remove those, that source of of that downturn, I think our economy will actually prosper, or interest rates will come down. Once interest rates come down, Florida is actually the biggest benefactor of all the states in America of a really prosperous economy. And I think I think we're in line, we're we're close to that happening. Um, but we really have to call out those individuals who are really stealing or looting the tax money. I always say I'm an independent. I I'm my parents I come from a democratic family, and I see flaws on both sides of the situation. However, I see major flaws, major red flags of the progressive side of the Democratic Party. Yeah. Because I believe that yes, they have the globalist pursuit. They they if you just see like the you connect the dots, and it's hard to connect the dots unless you're very in tune to it. But uh, you know, I think we're very close to it it it happening. And I I think Florida could be the most the most prosperous state. Florida really is set up, it's a it's it's it is the it it's the biggest benefactor when the economy opens up, everyone wants to move here, everyone wants a vacation here, and you know, I to eliminate um taxes on the home is is is a wonderful idea. Is it practical? I'm not sure. Um, because it's ultimately the government has to run. But I I like running my companies in a skeleton crew. If I am the Lord's help, I'll be governor, I'll run the government like with a skeleton crew. My arts are skeleton as well.

SPEAKER_00

So well, yeah. So you're you're talking you you will lean out or you will cut you will look into areas you think are maybe bloated, right?

SPEAKER_01

Cut them down and and well the first thing the first thing is I would cut I don't like anything anything Marxist, I don't like Marxist ideology one bit. So if there's any funding going to where Marxist causes, I would completely ban it in totality. I would I want to protect the children, and I believe that there's a force that are trying to steal the innocence of children. I have three daughters, and I have many nieces and nephews, and the innocence of children is not something you can play with. It was literally something that is non-negotiable, and um I want to focus on cutting all spending in education towards this ideology that's really trying to um take over America from within. Um and I you know I I I'm very, very, very, very against the mark the Marxist ideology, it's the ideology of removing God from society, and I want to do the opposite. I want to implement God to society. I would I I want to, you know, I want the the Ten Commandments in every single classroom, not necessarily as a religious perspective, but uh a morality perspective, historical morality perspective. Um, just because that really is the basis of morality. You know, before uh the Ten Commandments came around, the world was very, very, very immoral. Very immoral. People just live like I wouldn't even say a third world country, uh fifth world country. And uh, you know, just a history of morality. I want to teach them, I want each child to know that. Um, not to be indoctrinated. And you know, it's really scary what's going on in classrooms nowadays. And you know, me as a father, I I really my heart opens up to children that want to protect them.

SPEAKER_00

So that'd be the first on your agenda, right?

SPEAKER_01

That sounds like Well, we have to understand that we don't want our money being spent there. We don't want our money being spent to any of that agenda. We don't want our money being spent to an agenda of uh, you know, like for example, uh DeSantes wants to impeach a judge who uh allowed a murderer to go free and then the murderer again. Okay, so I'm completely against that ideology. There's a soft on crime ideology going around, or uh policy, they call it a policy. Soft on crime. Soft on crime, um I don't have mercy for the criminal, I have mercy for the people. The people should have mercy. We don't want murderers or rapists to be running freely in our streets, right? When you send a signal to a murderer that you can murder and you'll only get a soft sentence, you're just signaling them to do it again. It's against common sense. That's not what I want. So I want to be I'm a very law and order individual. I believe in crime and punishment. But ultimately, I believe it's not necessarily there's there's a force within our judicial system uh that is um intentionally, intentionally allowing murderers or rapists to run freely in our streets. And I was one I will not allow it. Full stop, no cap.

SPEAKER_00

Garden. I love that. Full stop, no cap. Yeah, I gotta sort of uh utilize some of that.

Why Businesspeople Aren’t Political Puppets

SPEAKER_00

So I want to talk about this business people in politics, right? And uh, you know, I love that you run as an independent, other era trauma's running as independent, right? I think that we do. I I will I remember Ross Perot was there, he ran against uh well, it was Bush and Clinton he probably the Legend Clinton won. I remember that, right? So but he what do you guys he was I think it was the most successful independent ever to run for president. I think what he broke the mode too that he was a successor Oriol tycoon billionaire, and I think he just didn't give a fuck, right? And I think that's you, I mean, I I read about and I think one reason we're having success on L of G is that this isn't where we make our money. I make money off of Legion, I have other businesses. Some people need to make money off podcasting. Now they have to survive off that. That's not this is something we're doing as fun, and now as leading is just growing like crazy. We're adding more sponsors, and I think that's because we just don't give a fuck. We just say whatever the fuck. And and we're like, we're not trying to offend anybody. We're just speaking, we're trying to introduce people new ways of making money, new ways of ideology, right? Because we all live in a box. I grew up in Newark, New Jersey, and I grew up where I grew up, and it was very, I don't know, blue collar or some dangerous areas. And again, I was anti-capitalism, and I have to get out of the box. I have to actually work in the corporate world to see, hey, you know, successful business people aren't all bad. There are some good ones, just like anybody else, right? So you have to get out, and that's the goal with our channel is to fucking introduce different ways of thinking, whether you agree with them or not, right? I mean, you're saying some stuff that's off the cuff that people are like, what the fuck, this guy. But you say one thing that's that that that makes sense. The open eye, that's all that matters, right? I'll listen to we're just so fucking divided where I got family members don't talk to each other because one person voted for him or didn't vote. Like, it's just stupid. That to me is not necessary. Let's let's learn for, let's be, let's fucking learn at the end of the day, and that's what we're trying to do. So I think business people, going back to Ross Pro, especially when you've made money, like you're at the point, like fucking, you don't you don't have uh you don't have anyone like you're not a puppet, is what it comes down to. You agree or not? And I think that's why we need more business people running.

SPEAKER_01

No, 100%. I mean, most politicians have these outside funding sources that are that are uh controlling their narrative, controlling their agenda, right? The right and the left, right? You have these per these funding sources that will give large donations in order for them to to have certain policies. A businessman comes around who has no agenda, but I just want I speak my truth, and that's it. You know, what I believe is the truth. And obviously people are going to disagree with me because my truth is very you know, it's it's it's different. Um, you know, and and uh uh businessmen also, you know, they they they they come with a different acronym than traditional politicians. You know, politicians know how to be politicians, but politicians don't necessarily know how to run government but they know how to win campaigns, right? They know how to tell the people what they want to hear in the moment. And then as soon as they win, they do the opposite. But you know, I think authenticity shines, right? It's something that people relate to. It's something that most politicians can't do. Yeah. Because they've already flip-flopped 15 years ago. They've said one thing and then they have to say another thing and then everything's on everything's on the internet nowadays. So it's it's hard to flip-flop anymore. But but they they do it anyways because they don't care. They're just trying to win the votes enough to win. They're trying to say what they have to say to win. I'm trying to I'm I'm not doing that. I'm I'm going to say my truth and I'll see where it lands.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah but you know I I think that and the younger generation sees through that we interviewed someone named Miles Sullivan he talked about no diddy or diddy what was the fuck he say diddy no diddy no diddy right like people trying to throw with the Woolver eyes Diddy some shit like that right but they they get it and they grew up with AI. They know what's real what's not real so I think that we're in the era of authenticity right that's why some of the Gary Vanderchuck did Gary V does he just talks how he just talks how it is right. That's why Donald Trump won he's talking from there whether you like it agree with him or not he's saying shit other people aren't saying he's cursing them out doing whatever and like that he people it resonates with with people right and I think that this is why this might this might actually be the as out of all this fucked up shit that's going on this might be the golden age this might be what opens the door for uh business people to get into politics and start making these these changes on all sides and I would love nothing more than independence. I thought Eric Truman I'm like man why the fuck's he run as an independent in South Southern California it's gonna be tough. I think you feel like you got to choose one side but he's on it he does his research you do your research I don't do so that like if I ran I feel like I'd have to pick a side but maybe maybe there's a time where independence like we just do this shit and like boom that you're motivating me. I feel like I was talking all that shit but I feel like I could capture a good market of the votes I'm a fucking business guy. I feel like I I could affect some good change.

SPEAKER_01

Well it's also a clear path to victory right yeah you go through a primary you you have to weed through a number of people to get there you run as an independent pay a fee you're on the belt. Now obviously you have to win you have to run a proper campaign. So I'm running really a complete out of the box campaign I'm running with ordinal technology. I'm trying to prove in real world use case how this technology can win a gubernational campaign. And I really it's it's it's something that's new to the world so people aren't going to see it until it happens.

SPEAKER_00

But I believe once I'm able to prove it we'll be like oh wow holy shit that worked yeah well you're you're listening you're you're breaking the mold and that that's great. I mean I I I love that you're doing something different and that's that's that's what life's about right and that's how that's what capital is about trying something different finding opportunity where there's no opportunity and seeing where it goes right so I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01

Well how about this we talk about doing something once yeah but to be the first one to do something once is pretty cool I guess you know it is a it's a different it's a different mold and I it's weird that I even got to this place because Yeah how did

From Addiction To Wall Street

SPEAKER_01

you get here? Let's let's talk about well I come from this the hood in Cleveland East Cleveland I was I mean so my I grew up in Cleveland Heights which neighbors East Cleveland when I was young I became a drug addict opiate addict and I was on the streets of East Cleveland from the age of 1920 when I was a heroin addict. Most people don't talk about it as bad politically but I like to be authentic anyone who looks to my record they find it out anyways but uh I was in the hood I was in the hood and I but uh I was going nowhere fast really all my friends were off to college and I became an opiate addict at a very young age I ended up going to rehab in Cleveland at the age of like 21. I got my life insurance license I got clean off of dope and uh it's an interesting story because I I used to go to the hood to cop and then um I was so excited because all my friends were in college and I was working with like restaurant jobs before warehouse jobs and I was just trying to make money but then I I I I I answer an ad online to become life intuitation. And I'm all excited because I get to wear a suit and like my my dream is always work on Wall Street right so I I go I drive 40 minutes to west side of town where it's all white and um and I go an interview the I I get the job. Little do I know everyone gets the job right but but the cut cold knives right exactly got a cut I saw before that so but they're like but you have to get your license so I got all excited I get my I I I go I take the test I take the exam and I get my license and I show up to work the first day and I'm like ready to kill it. I am so excited but they give you so I go there it's called American income life and I get my leads and my look at my leads the Glengarry leads well basically they send me right back to the hood. You're knocking on doors right back to East Cleveland no you call them up set up appointments but I'm literally going to East Cleveland which anyone who knows Cleveland can attest is the hood.

SPEAKER_00

I know East Cleveland we had a campaign with Cleveland War Department motherfuckers they were shooting at our tech guys. Yeah and one of our fucking tech guys took someone's percocets another motherfucker and we got cursed out by I don't know someone cursed out of three and killed us another motherfucker fucked up a toilet and he took a LeBron James jersey or clean that shit.

SPEAKER_01

And we had a lot of drama in Cleveland that's why I want the Knicks to play Cleveland gonna settle that shit I think the Knicks take Cleveland they play them even though I'm rooting for for rooting for the cats we're going we're gonna fucking see that but anyway let's go back to East Cleveland let's talk about that shit and I and I I'm I'm selling these you know single mothers in the hood I'm trying to convince them to buy a $10,000 life insurance policy and they they're telling me they're like Jason I want to do it but I gotta put food on my table what's more important than me paying for my funeral of food on the table and I understood it.

SPEAKER_00

After a couple months I stopped doing it I ended up working dental supplies I saved a couple thousand dollars I moved to New York in the summer and uh I started working different uh on different jobs and uh I ended up started playing poker I was good at poker and I was playing the cirque in New York City all these underground poker rooms and one night I lose all that money and I'm all depressed and I call my friend and I'm like yo his name is Rahman I'm like Ram lost all my money he's like yo you should come to this GA meeting I was already used to anonymous meetings so I go to GA's Brooklyn it's like all the way on Ocean Parkway and I go there and I end up meeting this guy random and he's like he's in life settlements I never knew a life settlement oh yeah life settlement is a nice niche yeah nice loot is nice under the radar niche yeah nice under the radar this is back in 2006 and I'm smoking a cigarette with him outside and he's like you have a license yeah you need a job I'm like yeah so you start tomorrow I'm like you for real yeah I walk into the world a world I didn't know existed these guys were in the middle of making like 200 million in two years they were printing money it was in the height of this mass well it's crazy because in 2007 I almost worked at a life settlement company that's how I know about this shit it's rather rather printing back then as far as still good right now no one drive Legion for life settlement guys no well it's a whole different business but before they were manufacturing policies so basically they were going around to any old person be like hey sign these pieces of paper they buy the policy right well then brass discount investors would essentially issue the policies yeah and then sell it after two years because they have two year contestability period and but they were manufacturing on scale and at a young age I was 23 I became multimillionaire but as quickly as I made the money I lost the money what happened why do you think that happens that happens a lot right it's like it's like athletes there's some stat that within five years they go fucking 90% are broke.

SPEAKER_01

Like what what is it is it came too fast you didn't value the money or what do you think no there's competition just two things first of all one one I uh I I reinvested life settlements the whole market fell off a cliff so a lot of them but aside from that all my crackhead friends I had a bunch of crackhead friends they'd be like yo gee invest in this oil deal for half a million dollars I'm like well sounds a good deal and just like I'm like I used to I did a similar bullshit they just sold me on horseshit that I was just like so gullible but it ended up being the biggest blessing for me to lose well I think it's also because things are working so well you think all right fuck everything I'm touching is working like boom they're gonna work too and boom.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah but you know what I learned to lose at a young age that that that's huge.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah yeah because because then then I had to get married and I had a baby and then I I kind of settled into the industry uh as a as a worker and I worked on like that I worked for a public company that I worked for a hedge fund and um to get that experience of having to work for people and and really just kind of humble myself so then when I started making I started my own fun when I was 33 so when I started really making making money again I already had that experience of losing it. And then when people hit me up I'm like I don't know about that. Yeah you know it really was it was uh it was a tremendous blessing in in hindsight but to be able to go on a roller coaster in general just be able to make you know it's you just gotta stop you can't stop shooting your shot but you gotta be smart you gotta learn from your mistakes you know you gotta fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me that's what it is listen it's you know it's about it's about adapting and really also just be being able to be in the industry for 20 years. So I was able to see the cycle because basically it all works on mortality tables. So it's all about life expectancy you know we each have a life expectancy and then if you have an insurance policy tied to that you're able to come up with a a cr a present value based off of the future probability of how long you're gonna live now obviously people later in life is really where the market takes off but to understand how people debit in the system health I mean I know way more about I know so much about death it's a little scary I know way too much.

SPEAKER_00

I just know comorbidities I know about you know different type of cancers kidney disease cardiovascular disease neurological disease specifically neurological disease is what I focused on so yeah right now it's on the Legion side find no expense you know final expense yeah so that's that's huge right now a lot of South Florida is home to a lot of uh insurance call centers Medicare Affordable Care Act and that stuff kind of a lot of regulation there was a lot of funny stuff going on Affordable Care Act came under a lot of scrutiny with the the ads and people not selling in a more in the most scrupulous manner. So a lot of the money has shifted towards final expense and now you're also seeing shift to life insurance a lot of these guys are starting floors the thing with lead generation it's like stocks are sectors right you can have a bear market but there's always some market making money right it just money just rotates is what happens right you agree with that I agree with that to an extent but money has to rotate that's the nature of the economy but I do believe money rotates a lot more in a flourishing economy.

SPEAKER_01

It's all about hope and fear. Exactly so when people are fearful of the of the future that people of the future that are like oh good I mean prosperous and then all of a sudden the the flow of money flows a lot more. So I mean obviously yes the flow of money is what runs the economy.

SPEAKER_00

And that's a good point I'm glad you said that because it rotates but to a certain extent depending on the macro situation. So now these guys got away from guys and girls got away from Medicare or Obamacare doing final expense to doing life insurance and on LLG show. So we do we we put people on that they're trying to find the next trends and then hot thing you talk about Bitcoin earlier Bitcoin IRAs could be big people putting money in in in investing long term gold precious metals IRAs there's ways by knowing what's going on politically where the money's flowing they talk about there's some I don't know if this is factual or not you might know but someone was tracking like the insider trades like Nancy Pelosi Nancy Pelosi I don't know what happened to this guy man but this fucking like I know what guy to subscribe and apparently his portfolio is up 50 he was just mirroring what the fuck these politicians were doing right but the point is that you got to stay ahead of the curve and you got to know what's going on politically you got to know what you're talking about. The life settlements was hot I forgot about that there's always no matter what you're doing right now if you're not fucking making money there's ways to fucking make money. You just got to listen to the fucking people that have done it listen to the right fucking podcasts, the right channels and don't get sucked into all this garbage out there the agenda everyone else is trying to feed you.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry that's my rant no but yeah 100% I mean this you go to fucking Brazil there's money in Brazil we're going in two weeks listen there's money everywhere you need the right the right frame of mind you need to be able to uh have a keen eye to find value because that's really what it is and you you have to be able to take risks yeah you know especially investors especially you know up and coming investors you you really got to be able to get your feet wet right like take a shot if it works and you know it you know it could you could grow on it right but you you gotta 100% you you gotta you gotta read the news you gotta listen to people you gotta really be in tune to the way different markets work and different uh avenues that of success and we really haven't been in a prosperous market in the past couple years right there's a market sometimes where everything just booms yeah um and hopefully we're and entering one because it's been very slow.

SPEAKER_00

So let me ask you you talk about I think one issue we have nowadays there's too much information out there.

Clean Tequila And Ibogaine For Recovery

SPEAKER_00

And we have something in our industry called shiny object syndrome right you go especially when you go to fucking trade shows you know this motherfucker's making money on telemed or poorly making telemed money this motherfucker's making money on debt that other motherfucker's making money on on uh I don't know gold IRAs right there's all these shiny objects and I feel that's what's going on nowadays we're at we're at peak social media I would say right you got Instagram tick tock you got this new one Beagle you got Twitter X whatever the fuck Snapchat TikTok you got so much information right fooled you get it's easy to get fooled and they're shiny as shit it's all these clips and whatever the fuck right so what will you you're a successful business person right and honestly and listen to if you got if you don't agree with the politics and the stuff he said the one thing that that Jason has said the one thing you could think of this like he's his own man he's fucking here it's what two o'clock most people are at a desk or they're working for somebody else walking multi jobs make the make make make make make the make money he's got his own tequila company he's got a business with his ex-wife which I find amazing I feel like I want to talk about that later on but you're your old man right what what are you what's your circle of successful people what information what what platforms what newspapers what what financial sites what pod what are you listening to to give you guys an edge you know a lot of it was um trying to be ahead of the ahead of the curve right I believe clean tequila is the future I agree I fucking just find Gen Z that doesn't drink you guys gotta start drinking start banging having fucking babies and drink clean fucking tequila Gen Z Casa Malca is the future listen uh I this shit tastes good I fucking I'm not a tequila guy this is it's clean my third one a lot of Gen Z doesn't drink because of the dirty tequila to be honest the dirty tequila dirty shit going on out there no serious people they're like I want to be healthy there's a whole dirty bass who won't even drink that shit there's a consciousness of health of of of being healthy yeah and there's there's uh there there are ways to get lit and stay healthy yeah nowadays and I think you know Consumal in clean tequila in general uh is is the future and really I'm I'm really are you taking investors in this what's the deal like if someone wanted to invest in this what's the deal we are we're we're we're doing a small round scared of all LLG investment motherfuckers clean tequila clean that dirty ass shit fucking bro I spent a lot of money on bullshit tequila we're spending money on good tequila now yes sir yes sir yeah cheers my friend cheers no honestly let me let me tell you something right here's the turn the high shout out Tel Aviv Tel Aviv's good anyway what I was gonna say is um you know we vote we vote you're talking about politics you're running for governor we vote with the dollars that we spend right where you're running a campaign is you you you spend money on a campaign you believe that campaign is going to generate money you believe in the future whatever like you spend I think Americans need to be educated on where the products they're buying what the fuck is actually in it like RFK I I love this whole movement hopefully is right yeah the Ma movement's fantastic and that's what I'm about I'm about making I I have two movements and I'm I'm not MAGA per se I'm make America godly again is my main movement and then Maha also make America healthy again yeah we must be conscious of everything we put in our body our vess our body is a vessel right if we want longevity I told you I studied mortality tables mortality I studied debits what what brings down life expectancies if we want to live our maximum life expectancy we have to be conscious of everything we put in our body and I really I don't even take Tylenol I don't take tums and I came from a background garbage yeah I agree where I wouldn't leave the house without taking five pills in my pocket I was addicted to pills for 20 years of my life what kind of pills well I was digging to opius for a long time 14 years took me 14 years to get off of it.

SPEAKER_01

I got off it from IBogaine which is psychedelic and this legal it is and just a political standpoint I am going to turn the rehab centers here that give pills into Ibogaine clinics I'm going to save a lot of addicts' lives big opportunity.

SPEAKER_00

Yes it is a big opportunity you should look into it if yeah and with drug rehab there's also money we made on the on the on the what do you call the like the facilities right here there's some tax advantage that's a huge other Ibegain clinics people say that for 14 days okay it's very different than the traditional rehabs where they give you pill mills and this and then they they have an agenda.

SPEAKER_01

Ibogaine is like this completely rebirth of an individual and if you're addicted to cigarettes if you're addicted to vape if you're addicted to cocaine if you're addicted to heroin opiates uh methamphetamines you could take this it's a it's a natural drug that comes from a root in Africa that has absolutely insane insane healing qualities and I'm so happy that the Trump administration legalized it. Is that what Joe Rogan talked about that a while that's what he was talking about. And it's literally the future of of of of health I'm not against I'm not totally against big pharma because I think I know there's a lot of medicine actually prolonged life and I'm against how they cure mental health and addiction. Yeah I believe their version of it is not meant to cure it's meant to keep uh um they're looking for clients they're looking for customers yeah they don't care how you TV yeah exactly I was on Wall Street and I can tell you there's a bunch of very very very highly educated smart suits sitting around a boardroom not thinking about how we can make these people healthier they're thinking about how could we make more money. Yeah well when you're dealing with people's health it's a contradiction in my eyes right we should care about people's health we should care about the wellbeing of people not how much money because you can still make a ton of money without being super like it just it's just contradictory and I think I think we're just I think through COVID people just are waking up like they have an agenda and they do they really have an agenda and the agenda is not to help us but medicines that come from nature actually have tremendous healing qualities and I think we're just waking up to that idea and and and I'm I'm excited for the future because and hopefully I could play a big part in it because you know it's it's God's world and God's medicine is the very best.

SPEAKER_00

And and I think that's something Republicans Democrats independents get around is that listen I mean you said some stuff that's probably going to alienate a lot of people right but this is the shit at the end of the day the health that that thing I really believe we're feeding fucking poison to the American public. I mean it's it's just ridiculous what's out there the the the the bullshit that's in food you go to Europe you have uh you have one item there that's got fucking three ingredients that same item in America's got 20 fucking ingredients right it's just ridiculous that we let this this stuff happen and where do we want to be a strong country we want to be fit but we're feeding our fucking feeding our kids bullshit it's not good. It's processed right and it's all but they're publicly traded companies they need that they need to get our our our our our population our middle class addicted and when they're addicted the fuck they're not gonna make money they're not gonna move right so the point is that it's this is the kind of stuff we need to hear and some people might tune out oh you said this like a fuck that guy but listen there's there's Republican Democrat independent there's good there's bad take whatever fuck's part of your thing and don't people get too obsessed over oh he said this fuck it listen take the good and utilize it that's that's where I think and that's why I'm glad to have you on the show and honestly I was like ah should we talk political self fuck it this is stuff I'm all about because people need to hear this kind of stuff man and think for yourself.

SPEAKER_01

So what it comes down to listen ultimately I want the good for people good for humanity um my viewpoints are a little maybe a little bit strong but I'm just listening I'm a Bitcoin guy. You have to remember that Bitcoin by nature is anti-establishment.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm I want decentralization. I don't like centralized power. And uh I just see the world in a keen way, and I you know I think this centralized power out there has failed us. And I think it's time for a change where the world becomes more decentralized. Give the power back to the people, not to the the ones that want unilateral control. You know, ultimately I'm a libertarian where I want people to be paying the least amount of taxes, most amount of freedoms, and small amount of government. And um and I want people to be able to prosper in a very godly way. I want people to believe in the Lord. Um I'm not gonna be I'm definitely never I'll never apologize for being pro-God. You know what I'm saying? It's sad that we're at a point where it's a uh contentious subject. Yep. I think I think spirituality, forget strip away religion. I'm not talking about religion. Talking about strictly spirituality is healthy for now learned this from recovery and AA. I made this tequila in AA. God grant me this serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can the wisdom to know the difference. Becoming spiritually fit is the way where you become happy with yourself, where you keep your side of the street clean. So important for mental health. Really, it's to have a spiritual base to your foundation.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, shout out to AA, shout out NA, shout out to GA. Listen, a lot of a lot of good principles there and a lot of great salespeople from there. Oh, a lot of fucking, you know what it is? I think I think salespeople, listen, I got my brain scan. I don't even know what the fuck it told me, honestly. But at the bottom line, yeah, with the doctor, Amen. All right, they gave me some good advice, honestly. I gotta start taking some supplements. But uh GABA, they told me to take GABA, take some other shit to control my impulsivity. But the bottom line is, yeah, I don't know. I got I gotta start a U line, but the bottom line is that fucking entrepreneurs, the people that make the world go round, salespeople, successful people, we have addictive, impulsive fucking traits. But that's what makes shit happen. We you gotta take a shot. You gotta take a chance, right? Athletes are the same fucking thing. I mean, you got zero point two seconds left on the fucking clock. Who's gonna shoot that motherfucker? You know, someone with big balls are gonna shoot that thing. It goes in, great, doesn't go in, fuck it. We come back tomorrow, right? I mean, that's what it is. So at the end of the day, I mean, I that's why we I've had a lot of call centers and and and salespeople that have come from that from there that have been super successful. So people listen to this, a fucking nugget on the LFG show, hire people from AA, NAGA, and they need a second chance. Some of them are down on themselves, but they have a fucking, they got a point to prove, a chip on their shoulders, right? And you can help, they're gonna fucking turn your company around, become your next CEO.

SPEAKER_01

I used to be ashamed calling myself an addict. I realized the biggest blessing. I tick differently, I don't stop, my mind doesn't shut off. I'm I love it. You know, and I'm 42 years old now. You know, I learned to what I learned is I can't control if I'm an addict, but I could control what I'm addicted to. So I really stay natural. If you stay natural, you actually don't come with the same consequences and things that come with uh that are natural. So I'm I'm like but yes, addicts are the I love addicts. I spent the world 20 years in and out of recovery. So I'm I'm very much uh a proud addict.

SPEAKER_00

Good man. Listen, that that's what that's what runs the world. This has been normally we do like 30 minutes. We've been we were over this uh this has been great. I want to talk about another thing.

Building Casa Malka And Final Rally

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to I I would be very I don't want to be driving home like ah fuck, we should have talked about this. You have a bit in your tequila brand, your ex-wife is your business partner, right? Yes. This is fascinating to me. How the fuck does that work? And this goes shows this is not your normal human, all right? That he's able, how many people could do a business, start a business with their ex-wife? I mean, I find this. Let's talk about how that all went down. How does it function? It's got it's gotta be working. The product tastes great. So I want to I want to hear about this. This is fascinating.

SPEAKER_01

So it's about six months, uh five months before our 15-year wedding anniversary. I'm sitting in AA. This is right when my first NFT failed.

SPEAKER_00

What year was this?

SPEAKER_01

2022. Okay, May of 2022. Um June maybe. And I'm sitting there with Malka. We're sitting, I'm sitting on the couch, she's sitting in the kitchen, and I wasn't even thinking about it, I was sitting in AA. The last thing I was thinking about was creating a tequila company, and all of a sudden the the names pop into my head, Casa Malka, House of the Queen. And I'm like, every tequila is masculine. Casa Amigos, Throne, 1942, everything is has masculine energy to it, and I'm like, Casa Malka, because Malka in Hebrew means queen. And her name is Malka. So uh she said, I'm like, I'm like, hey, I'm like Malki, what do you think about this name? Casa Malka for a tequila company. You have to understand, I've been I'm like a crazy mad scientist, and I've been thinking about so many different brands, and so like what do you think about this idea? And so many of them failed, so many failures. She's like, okay, Jason, okay, okay. So I call my little sister because I was working my at that point, I was working with my little sister on uh creating a pitch deck to try to revive my NFT that failed. And uh I call her up and I am like, I have this idea. I'm like, I didn't want to create a tecular brand. What I wanted to do is create a pitch deck, and I had access to Beyonce. So I was thinking, I'm like, okay, if I can just create a pitch deck, a beautiful brand, it's a great name, let me sell it to a queen. So I call my little baby sister who was working on this other pitch deck for my NFT. I call her up, and she's living in Israel all the time, and I love the idea. She's like, So after like a week, she calls me back. I found this artist in Japan that would create a 3D rendering, the whole pitch deck for you for $12,000. And at this point, I'm shitting money onto this NFT. $12,000 is like when I'm paying this stupid influencer to retweet my tweet. But then did that work, by the way? I mean, I used to I know people used to do that kind of shit. No, I actually lost my fucking. I lost my plans and everything. I lost everything. I get I am such a true believer in Bitcoin ordinals because I've lost got destroyed and the on uh Ethereum. And I just don't believe in Ethereum NFTs, I believe Bitcoin ordinals. And there's such a fundamental difference in technology. It just it's it's permanence. Elon Musk tweeted, and I'll just go back to the Casamaca story, but he's like, this is non-fun, is this really non-fungible token? And he was right, because it was an Ethereum as a smart contract, it actually makes it somewhat fungible. You could whatever. But anyways, so I she uh a couple months past, she ends up sending me um the pitch deck in November of 2022. And at this point, my sobriety is failing, um, my marriage is failing, my FTX collapses, and the whole NFT. My Vabe company failed. I am in the like the deepest, darkest depths of depression. My 15-year wedding anniversary is a month from now. And my sister sends me the pitch deck, and I'm like, this is beautiful. But I'm like, I'm gonna know entrepreneurial spirit to do something about it. So I'm like, what I'm gonna do is I'll trademark it. Maybe in six months, I'm like, I don't know what's gonna be with Malky, I don't know. So I trademark it. Lo and behold, a month month later, me and Malka go to St. Bars for a 15-year wedding anniversary. And uh I've been in and out of recovery my whole life at this point, right? And she tells me, and I tell her, I'm like, I'm depressed, I'm like, I I don't want to be sober anymore. And she tells me she's like, if you drink, you're gonna divorce. So it's I ended up we ended up essentially recovery really ruined it. The marriage. I was I kept in it, it was too tied to our relationship and whatnot. And um after our 15 year wedding anniversary, ended up we ended up ended up moving out, and about a month later, you know, as it started developing, so Diagio, this is what happened. She trades, I trademark it.

SPEAKER_00

And Diageo's the biggest sheer thread, right?

SPEAKER_01

She starts posting it. My sister starts posting this pitch deck on her socials. Diage reaches out to us. Wow. And they're like, oh, do you want to do an incubator program? And then I'm like, oh wait, uh light bulb goes off in my head. Incubator, this is great, right? The light bulb goes off in my head. I'm like, oh wow, maybe there's something here. And then I go through this process of I ended up, you know, relapsing. And I'm like, I don't like this. I ended up going back to recovery, and I'm like, Malcolm, let's do this together, let's create this through divorce. And then she ends up creating the juice. So I never tried it until it was really bottled. So I had nothing to do with creation. It's very weird because I thought of the brand, I paid for the whole brand, but I didn't create the bottle, I didn't create the juice, so my ego can't take any credit for it. That was interesting. Yeah, yeah. Ego sucks. So she creates the juice, my sister creates the bottle, and I go through this journey of, you know, we have three daughters together, and we've been able to have a very friendly, tequila full divorce.

SPEAKER_00

But I think that's amazing because I mean, most people, you know, I have a divorce always has like people where it's like bad connotation or whatever. You ever turn into something positive, right? And you have a brand here. I mean, it's good tequila. I I I've drank tequila before, and I know there's health benefits, it's better. It's like if you're gonna drink a liquor or a still spirit, whatever you want to call it, it's supposed to be the best one. I told you I did vodka soda, I've been doing vodka soda to avoid uh calories and whatever or not. Problem is I get too really beyond lit up, right? So yeah, dumb shit. So like this, it's smoother, right? You're gonna drink it slower. So I I really mean that. I wouldn't, I won't, I don't know. I'm if I if I was trying to be polite, I would drink it. I wouldn't have any more. The fact is, I I fucking had three of these already, right? I enjoyed it, it's nice, it's good, and you being able to create something that I can enjoy, it's beautiful, right? And I don't know, I think that I want to talk to you about that because that's something unique, and we want to bring unique people on our show with different points of perspective. We haven't had anyone running for governor of Florida. You ever great you the the I love the the the the the what you're talking about here, I think makes a lot of sense. And I this is something not most people do, and the fact that you did it and um I got divorced one, I have great terms with my ex-part, thank God. Uh, but it's not easy for most people. I know a lot of people have been there a lot of shit, and it's tough when there's kids involved, right? Kids are slaughtered, it's very sad. Yeah, it's very sad and so hard for the kids, though. How did it affect your business, man? The whole process getting divorced.

SPEAKER_01

Well, getting divorced wasn't affect as much. Really, becoming an artist became affected a lot more. I was a managing partner of fun. We had two billion dollars in management. But when I pivoted to uh becoming an artist, it really created strain between my partners. Um because I kind of started looking in the world at a much different perspective. When you're on Wall Street, how about this? The last thing you want is headline risk. Then I became an artist and I'm just trying to get my art collection out. I'm looking for headline risk. So like there's this complete opposite side of uh that's why I said you're really becoming uh going from Wall Street artist is a much bigger pivot than going from artist uh politician. Got it. But yeah, I've realized in hindsight, I've been jumping around. Yeah, you know what, like I said, man, listen, I I who knows what the first time will bring, who knows what chance encounter will change the course of my life. You just gotta keep on shooting shots. You shoot a hundred you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. If you're not shooting shots, you're not gonna score, just the way math works. Yeah, so you gotta be courageous. You also gotta be wise. You know, get your feet wet, you know, you don't gotta go all in. You know what people you know people mistake, and I made this mistake so many times, especially in the crypto space and being a shit coin hunter. You you you invest too much with your emotions and not with your mind. You let emotions take control. And especially in volatile markets, you really gotta stay strong to your vision. Yeah, don't let uh a negative day make you sell your position and then like a month later, like, oh my god. You know, you really have to have conviction. So, like if you promise yourself you're gonna do something, like write it down and be like, okay, let me I'm gonna see it through. Because you know, markets are volatile, and markets don't are are not always like if you if you have if you have conviction in something that's do you think believe it's gonna be valuable, you invest in it, and then it goes down the first two months you're investing in it, and then you end up selling it, and then only for it to like rip a year later, like hold true to your conviction and really try to remove your emotions, right? Because the emotions really is so challenging. Um you gotta invest in your mind, your heart, your mind is way more powerful than your heart.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love that you said that too, because in our in internet marketing and used to you know, in business, I mean there's days you can have ridiculous that you make so much money, like more money than people make in a year, or people make in like five years, 10 years, right? And it comes so quick, and then it also goes, it goes quicker, right? And then and I we saw a speaker, I'm not gonna say his name. I was in uh Cabo, Mexico. One of the speakers spoke about something similar to that, you know, what to do with your money, because when the money comes quick, man, and that's I think why athletes have issues and a lot of business people, it's just because you think you're invincible at some point, right? But if you study successful use clues, if you study the wealthy, they they have like boring uh principles when it comes to investing. They fucking we I know a guy, I mean, I'm probably gonna see him tonight. He's got tens of multiple figures in the stock market. Uh and when Meta was getting slaughtered, I went from fucking 700 to like 610. He's like, David, this is a fucking buy. He was clearing the whole fucking out of why it makes sense. They own this, they own this, whatever. He was buying 610, he bought it at 550, he bought it at 530, and he's just getting out, I think it's like 700. But the point is that this guy has accumulated, and he's he he's the furry, he's in his late 30s. He he's probably got 50 million in stocks. I don't know what he's got in his other investors, but I think his goal is to become a billionaire with this. But he doesn't live a flashy lifestyle. He's crazy, like he's boring, right? Guy drives a fucking old Toyota, right? Uh but the point is that it's easy to get sucked into all this flash. Like I talked about shiny object syndrome. As an entrepreneur, there's so much shit that wants to take your money. We'll live in fucking Miami. You know, you got fucking the you could argue to say the best true clubs in the world in this fucking place, right? You talked about going to Faina, you know, Eric talked about going to Faina and like having a crazy night and someone taking their roller. Like, people are out to fucking get you, right? Medellin's got this issue right now where all these Americans are going to Medellin. They want to bang these girls and they're already getting fucking drugged, they're getting fucking killed, all this crazy shit. It's gonna happen in Venezuela too. Mark my fucking words, right? But the point is, like, how I guess what I'm trying to say is like, as an entrepreneur, I feel like you're more susceptible to that bullshit because you make the money fast. Like, how what do you do to kind of like bulletproof yourself so you don't get sucked into this? It's almost like we talk about the news, you talk about the deep state, they get you, right? It's like it's like we live in a world where people are always trying to get you. And when you make money, even more so. So, what what's your advice to people that are making money right now? How the fuck do they avoid these traps and all these vices that are out there?

SPEAKER_01

Well, the vices are very uh fun to get tramped into. So it's great answer. Um, no, but in all seriousness, I mean, listen, you know, uh I'm really I I it's this is gonna sound all cliche, and I come from a party background. I made money in my mid-30s, low 30s. Um in New York, I place in the Hamptons, I always like to get ripped. I attracted beautiful women. But really, you know, I'm I'm really about spiritual wealth. I realize, I realize I I like wisdom, which is hard for people to do normally, but as opposed to learning experiences, you kind of have to grow through yourself. But really, it's you you realize you you're chasing these vices. They're actually you're you're like a hamster wheel. You're you you won't actually achieve happiness. It's not it's impossible, right? You're you're you're you're you're just chasing the next high. Um, but if you have a spiritual foundation, you actually realize that getting lit and partying actually could be fulfilling in a sense as long as you stay clean.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

As long as they stay pure, sleep fresh every single night. I don't like what I realize is the most important thing, when I learned from recovery, right? The most important thing in order to continuously be uh have a a life of um success and manageability, manageability is how you sleep and wake up. It's because if you if if I'm going on a Coke binge, right, and uh I don't sleep for two days, I'm killing a whole half a week for my life, right? But probably a week, right? Because I'm two two, three days I'm ripping it, and then I'm trying to sleep the next day, and then I'm depressed as all the next day, and by the time I wake up from it's like I lost the whole week. So any any momentum I've had is completely shot. Yeah, shot to shit. And especially if you're an entrepreneur and you people are relying on you to be the energy, yeah. Right, you need to be the the source of positivity. So you cannot have mornings when you're not let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, true. You I'll tell you this one. My my uh my chief of staff, I'll core Amanda, right? I'm on the folder today and I'm like, the fuck? I'm like these these last I've been traveling like crazy, and yesterday was all these fucking meetings. Today was like that. I'm like, I was stressed. I'm like, the fuck? I'm and I'm telling her something, you know, she she put me in my plate, Dave, but will you do this yourself? And I needed to fucking hear that. Like, you're right. I a lot of times I just say, yeah, okay, let's do this and that, right? So you you you you have people, you also have you have to have a supporting team that helps you like call you the fuck out. And I and she's been with me 12 years. She could, if someone was with me for like six months, said to them, I'm like, yo, fuck you. What who the fuck are you doing? She knows she could say that to me. Right. And I'm not getting mad because I know she's coming from a good place. She's been with me through my ups and my downs or whatever, right? But I felt like you also need that too. And like, entrepreneurs, man, well, what we're wired differently. And a lot of people don't get that. I I sometimes I hate going to parties with this non-entrepreneur. Like, what the fuck? I'm I'm a different person there. I hate to say this, but I'm not, I'm not the same Dave. I'm like, I'm fucking quiet, you know. But when I get around entrepreneurs, oh my God, man, that's why I gotta be careful too, because that's where you can get you can get into you know some fucking late nights and whatever the fuck. But the point is that we're wired differently, but also I feel like America needs at this point, right? We need more entrepreneurs in to create jobs. You need governments that are pro-entrepreneurs. We need to teach our kids how to fucking take chances, be entrepreneurs, take risks. And you fail, fuck it, you fail. Let's learn, let's get the fuck up, all right? So, I mean, I'm glad you came on to talk about this. And you you gave me, you gave me in particular. You're inspired me for a lot of ideas. I talked to chance a lot about fucking helping the youth and doing kind of things. There's no incubator program. I love to do. I think with our sponsors, I mean Adam Young would be cool with this. Newsbreak, uh, our sponsors, let's go to fucking inner cities, let's teach kids like hey, whoever wins, start the company, let's just figure it out. Like kind of like Shark Tank. Like, it's I don't know, having these ideas, but talking that's a good thing. When you talk to people with high energy, people that have done it, that've lived it, it's inspiring. It's not bull, normal bullshit. And that's what our country needs at this point. They need a little fucking shot, a shot in the arm, man. Well, we need dialogues. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, our country's way too divided. And the the reason why we're so divided is because there's there's this each side is just they're not interested in hearing each other out, yeah. Um, and really just sitting down and and having they're just interested in war with each other, but creating conversations, um, creating dialect and and and really opening up people's minds, right? Like people's minds are kind of closed nowadays. Each side has their perception and they're ready to die on the hill. Yeah. I'm running as an independent, and I really want to you know speak to both sides. I'm I'm I'm I'm I have a Bitcoin view of the world, and hopefully, um you know, how about this? I can speak from today till tomorrow. My art will speak a lot louder than my any words I can say because Bitcoin art, it's permanent. It's it's I'll show it to you after the podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love it. Let's let's do that. All right. We'll show that we'll show we'll put a link on there. We'll put all the stuff for people to see. I'm uh we we we we this was great. Any last words you want to say before you wrap up your Something we didn't touch upon.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I'm so grateful to the audience. Um thank you for hearing me out. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I wasn't trying to.

SPEAKER_00

Um you definitely offended people, but all good. It happens. No, that's it. Hey, listen, it's gonna happen. Motherfucker, people get offended, but then take take some nuggets, though. You dropped a lot of nuggets.

SPEAKER_01

You're right. No, it happens to be in my art collection. There's uh there's a t-shirt in my art collection. Offend me, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00

We're offended, let's get offended, bro. Go somewhere get offended. Let's get offended. 100%. We're going to fucking wear a little comedy show. You go to the motherfucker, they affect you just and you laugh.

SPEAKER_01

We're supposed to be the home of the brave, not the home of the cowards. Cowards are. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Let's right. So offended, bro. Where's our fucking LFG offended? I've found some jokes. But I love being here. Let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_00

Let's fucking go, guys. Let's fucking go. Fuck it around. Guys, and one last thing I want to say. Politics runs the fucking world. Listen, look at Venezuela, right? Jesus. I was there when Chavez ran for president. Everyone swore. I was in a little town called Taliba and Sacrisoba, right? They were like, this guy's gonna change the world, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Look what the fuck happened. Venezuela went from this to like this, right? And now hopefully we're on the come up. And um, damn, fucking 20 lost years over there, right? This shit happens. You vote for the wrong people, fucking fucks up the your country, fucks up your life, the livelihood, right? So, and and as internet marketers, as business people, we gotta know what's going on. And whether you agree or disagree with the person that won, find ways to make money with them. Find things that make sense. You know, uh Trump wasn't good for some of my business, but he was good for other parts of the business. So, you know what? That business is done. I'm not gonna fucking curse him, but yo, fuck him. I gotta go make money. The fuck, excuses don't make money. So go figure it out, follow the flow, pay attention to your local politics, the elections. What do they do? Gun in federal, national, international. If you're not, you're not, you're fucking, you're you're making less money, guarantee you. Pay attention to what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

Ordinal technology is the future. I highly recommend everyone to learn about it and get involved. And um, like you said, communism sucks. That's essentially what it is. And it's it's it's a disease in my mind. And that's why I'm I'm a true libertarian. I want freedom's exact opposite ideology. And I think what they do is they lie to the public, they're able to convince the public that they are the savior, but really they're the cause of the problem, they just create the problems and continuously say that I'm gonna be the solution to the problems that they create. But we need real politicians that actually want to solve problems like balls, yes, have balls.

SPEAKER_00

Balls. Exactly. All right, guys, listen. Gen Z, shout out Gen Z, shout out Gen Alpha. Yes, fuck you the future. Yeah, I know I said fuck Gen Z. I was just kidding. You know what I mean? All right, guys. Follow Jason Wire, follow his campaign, drink drink, drink the tequila. Should I drink three? I'm not feel good. I don't feel fucked up, man. Chances see me worse under two. I drink three.

SPEAKER_01

Half the bottle, half the bottle, though. We're gonna drink having a fucking bottle.

SPEAKER_00

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