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Close Bigger Deals w/ VSL's ft Angelo Ferraro
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🔥 Most brands don’t lose the sale because of bad ads. They lose it after the click.
The cart gets abandoned. The upsell never happens. The customer buys once... and then disappears forever.
In this episode of The LFG Show, we're joined by Angelo Ferraro, founder of I Sell For You, all the way from São Paulo, Brazil, to break down the overlooked side of scaling a business: the back end.
Angelo has helped brands recover lost revenue, increase customer lifetime value, and build real sales systems that turn one-time buyers into loyal customers. We dive deep into why the companies winning today aren't just acquiring customers—they're maximizing every customer they already have.
We also get into:
✅ Why VSLs (Video Sales Letters) continue to dominate premium offer conversions
✅ The psychology behind direct response marketing that actually sells
✅ Why human follow-up still outperforms automation alone
✅ Abandoned cart recovery strategies that drive real revenue
✅ Upsells, cross-sells, retention, and increasing customer lifetime value
✅ The explosive growth of telemedicine, GLP-1s, peptides, and the future of the health industry
✅ How trust, credibility, and education separate winning brands from everyone else
Whether you're running an e-commerce brand, selling high-ticket offers, scaling a telemedicine company, or simply looking to increase profits without spending more on ads, this episode is packed with practical strategies you can implement immediately.
A single conversation. A follow-up call. A real relationship.
Sometimes that's the difference between a lost customer... and a lifelong one.
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Relationship Selling Through Follow-Up Calls
SPEAKER_00Every time that you acquire a good client, tomorrow you can give another product, another product, and they will buy just because of your brand.
SPEAKER_02You have a customer service team that calls, checks in, are you taking the peptide? How's it going? Do you want to talk to the doctor right now? So you'll make many of those calls. You might make two, three, four, five of those. You don't even ask for an order. You make that connection, they remember you. That way when you do ask for the order, then the sixth phone call, fifth phone call, whatever, they buy right away. There's a connection there.
SPEAKER_00And they not only buy that product, okay? They will buy more product from the same brand because they remember people talk, okay? When you do 1% more compared to other ones, people remember you. I see that people focus on closing deals. Instead, I see that what works more is focus on make friends. Focus on people that have your same vibe. Then you talk about business. In this way, you have a good route for make business together. This is what I suggest to do also to everyone.
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Sao Paulo And Guest Intro
SPEAKER_02Alright, guys, we're not stopping Sao Paulo. Boom, boom, boom. We got the Italians in Sao Paulo. Italian, Brazilian. What happens if Italy plays Brazil in soccer? What are we gonna do? Yeah, we gotta get the fuck out of here. Let's not talk about it. Uh we got please, please forget. It's like talking politics and religion.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, we're with Angelo Ferrero. It's like Ferrari but Ferrero. Ferrero? Yeah, Ferrero. You got the Rocher. Ferrero Rocher is too? No. We're Angelo Ferrara. This guy is a VSL motherfucking monster. VSL video sales letter, man. They're not fucking around, man. And he's with ISO for you. He's helping this company. This guy is doing some big things. They're sponsors of the LFG show. I just saw some stats today. You guys recovered already $55,000 for some of a guy who's doing peptides. Yeah, yeah. And that's that it's gonna be 70 to 120,000 by the end of the day. So congratulations on what you guys are doing so far.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much. First of all, thank you for inviting me here and have this uh conversation with you. That's that's very nice.
SPEAKER_02You're such a good energy. I appreciate it. I haven't slept much in like fucking two weeks, but we're here. So my birthday's today, too, by the way, man. I appreciate you guys showing me a lot of love.
SPEAKER_01Let's go.
SPEAKER_02All right, so check this out,
How VSLs Sell Premium Offers
SPEAKER_02guys. VSLs, right? We're here in Brazil. There's a lot of VSL monsters here, man. They're putting up ridiculous numbers. Tell us about your VSO background. And I I we've the audience loves this stuff because I'm not a I'm not a media buyer. I like talking to media buyers, but I want them to eat this shit up. I want you to make more money with your VSL, guys. Fucking do it.
SPEAKER_00So basically, uh, well, I'm I I was an engineer, okay? I'm still an engineer, but then I changed career, like after COVID, and then I start to um just simple video editing like this with a friend that invited me in his company, and then I start to see this world of the affiliate and the the direct marketing, the response the direct response marketing. And I feel that was this my world, and the more that I go forward, the more I see the energy, the vibes that they are here, and they're amazing, man. I I can tell you. Um so for the for the VSL world, VSL is the is the best way so far for um converts a certain amount of money for people, okay. People I I used to say this people are like visual, they like to hear and they like to feel. Okay, so when when and people are all day on their smartphone, okay, so the best way to convince a person to buy something for you, especially if it's not an impulsive buy, like $10, $20 like this, if you want $200, $300, the best way is to combine visual sounds, um, and the best way is doing by do a video like a VSL. So 30 minutes, 40 minutes on which you tell a story about a problem, and then how you find a solution. Uh, this is the way, this is the way to convince people to give you $200, $300 at the front end, and then okay, the back end is another story.
SPEAKER_02So what where where where areas, I mean, where did you get first started
Supplements, GLP-1, And Peptides
SPEAKER_02in VSOs? Like, what was the first product you were selling?
SPEAKER_00The very first product was like uh in the health niche. So supplements was um like uh protein powder, uh EDs, uh for sleeping, pill for sleeping better with magnesium. So very white uh products. Uh well not the ED, no, but but was the pill for natural enhanced testosterone. Um but yeah, I start with this with a company that have a lot of this supplement, and then I expand my my um knowledge and other company that I work with, with uh blood sugar, brain, uh uh now GLP1 recently peptides. Uh we are testing peptides now that is uh I I will think I think it will be the new trend in the future. GLP1 now starts to be a little bit it is still ongoing. And if you have time, well, any anyone that is listening, GLP1 is still a good trend, but the next one will be the peptides. Uh there is a lot of ongoing on regulation on um on make this legal because there is a lot of this. Uh but when they will be ready, this and is is ongoing this process of legaling. Uh, when it's ready will be the next explosion of trends. When do you think that's gonna happen? Supposedly happened soon, right? Everyone will will jump on this train and have his own peptides offer. Uh, because like seems uh the magic pill now, and and people like uh people are lazy, like things that doesn't require much effort for have a big results. So peptides seems that uh is satisfying this request. So it's something that is not very harmful, like uh it's not like a really heavy drug thing, but the benefit that you get is way good, and there isn't some there isn't or there is no um um collateral effect. So that's why we'll be but of course need to be tested. That's why we need the FDA regulation and and approval. I get it. So we are in this phase now of approval, but we'll be the next trend.
SPEAKER_02So now it makes sense uh as I hear you speak, because right now you did resear what research peptides were banned. Did they ban those? The research peptides? What do you know about this? So there are peptides, I guess, were coming from, I don't know, anywhere in the world, maybe like China, whatever, where there was concerns that had metals on them. Let's say you buy NAD plus, right? And if I get it from a compound pharmacy, I I do peptides, right? I have I've been doing it for many years. Yeah, I have a very good doctor, and uh he used a compound pharmacy. So you it's coming from the pharmacy, right? When you go buy, and I have a prescription for that. You can buy peptides, or you used to be able to buy peptides, I don't know if you still can online without a prescription, right? Uh you see an ad and you buy it, and I think they call those research peptides. They didn't come from a compound pharmacy from prescription. So when you I guess what I'm trying to say is that once they get approved, that means they're gonna be through a process where you know you're getting the real shit and you're not getting some adulterated.
SPEAKER_00Always you need to be careful because as usual, when there is a big trend, there is a lot of fake things around. And with health, you shouldn't be you should be very careful, okay? Because a lot of companies will say, ah, this is a good peptide peptide like this. But please, guys, just stick with the the one that is regulated, that is safe, you know, because they will come, someone that will try to send to to sell shit for not regulated or expired or something, or not, not tested, you know. So just be careful. We'll be a nice trend, but just be careful.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I I guess it makes sense. But what you're saying is that once a regulation comes, a lot of times people think regulation is bad because it's uh, I don't know, like there's no, I know a lot of the money is made in the early stages where it's kind of like I don't know what you what you want to call it, where it's kind of not as many people know about the wave is starting to form, right? And I guess with the regulation, it's like the people that were doing the the shit the shades, the shady way, they're gonna get washed away. The people that are doing it right are the ones who are gonna do well, right? Is what is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we are we are so there is four stages of um of brand awareness or something, okay? There is the very early stage, like just some people use some products, and usually people don't care because they say, ah, okay, maybe so just some fanatic that is using some product, so I don't really care. Then there is starting the trends that is going up. The very the early stage is like two, three years after when uh some research starts to pop out and it's very good and everything is okay. So this is the right moment for jump on the trend, and now with the peptides, we are entering this second phase. Interesting. Then the third phase will be the like everyone, everyone will have the offer about peptides, and then the fourth phase will be like is the trend is dying because there is other product that is going trend. So now we are entering the second phase, and it's actually the the the best moment for everyone to enter this this trend.
SPEAKER_02Interesting. No, it's interesting because I I've known about peptides for five years. I have a friend of mine named Nick that was doing it five years ago, and I it looked pretty cool, had the vial, whatever, right? But he's always been ahead of his his time. I got into it three years ago, right? Yeah, and back three years ago, I started hearing a lot of people. I thought that it was maybe in that second phase, but it wasn't. You know, now clearly it is. So um I think that I mean I live in Miami. Yes, so many people have peptides. You see these young kids promoting, they're making money on it. We're gonna refer you guys a lot of clients from that. But it's pretty interesting to hear. So, what what's gonna be when there's there's more people jumping in? Usually
Regulation And The Peptides Wave
SPEAKER_02when that that happens, there's less margin, right? Like, how how how are this is where the the the VSLs and your your positioning, your media buying, and your whole strategy is gonna be important, right? So, what's your suggestions? How are how are you gonna deal with it?
SPEAKER_00So uh as always I suggest to my client is to test as soon as possible. Because in this, when you test, you you will start to have data, okay? We see if there is something wrong. Because there is solid company that have already offered, they already know how to build offer, and they know how to do it. But if you want to jump and you're not very sure, just start with something, test, and then improve. Um, is this what what he was asking? Or yeah, no.
SPEAKER_02So how are you gonna get ahead of it? Because what happens is that like I do home improvement now, roofings, uh, roofing, siding, what else we do? Uh windows, bathroom, right? So when I got into roofing, we were doing a lot of solar, and solar went to shit. Like we had to, we, we were like this, and we're, I thought I was gonna go out of business, right? So we have to pivot. I had to lay off a lot of people. Yeah, and then I I got lucky in that I was able to, through a connection, get into a big company that was spending three million dollars a month on roofing leads. My media buyer was testing roofing and making it work, and we got we got we got lucky, we got into the right buyer. Getting into that buyer saved my fucking my ass. It saved the company's ass. So the point is though now, you know, a year later, two years later, there's so many people in roofing now. It's become more competitive, right? So the margins have gone down. So what I'm saying is, like, I feel like that could happen to peptides too. Everybody gets in that shit. So how do you stay ahead? For us, we're we're doing stuff on newsbreak. We're testing newsbreakout, we're testing out doing shit on TikTok because we're just doing heavy meta, meta, we're 80% meta, 20% Google, right? We had to shift that to stay ahead. So, like, you gotta be ahead. I feel like in with peptides and telemed, it's like it might be the same situation, no? That's why.
SPEAKER_00If we follow what I say before, the the the four-phase trend, yeah. Um, I suggest to people to start start to do some research on the next peptide that would be uh approved, uh, especially on uh well overall performance of people, enhancement, okay? That is legal actually. Okay, that will be legal, okay? Uh so I I suggest to them to start some research because uh when they got approved, there will be everyone jumping in. So just start now, just to do some research about it. So when the moment will become, you're ready, you're already ready.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're ready. Okay, so there's one uh what's I forget the name. Retro. I don't know if you know peptides. Are you familiar with like each one?
SPEAKER_00No, uh well, uh there is a lot of strange numbers and then uh yeah, uh this one starts at R retro.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what I uh everyone swears this is the fucking one. Then there's a copper one, yeah, which fucking hurts. I see you. I haven't been too consistent with that motherfucker, but I injected my leg. It feels like someone punched me in the fucking leg. It hurts, right? But anyway, that that one's supposed to like be good for your hair, your skin. I have no clue, but that one's been pretty hot. But this retro, whatever it's called, is supposed to be the next hot one. So you're saying kind of like do your research and see what's gonna be the next one, and then when that one, if it's like if there's five or ten of them that could be uh approved, if you got one or two of those, you're gonna scale those to the moon. That's what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00You you have to follow what what people want. They they want to for men, they want to be grown, they want to uh you know, growing muscle, like hair, or there is like millions of kind of for the skin. Uh, there is really a lot of um things that you can do with peptides, but again, just stick with the with the things that is that is approved. There is a reason why they need to approve the approval. You can risk with something, but I I won't personally suggest. Okay, yeah. Uh, because if you don't have enough data for for the testing, it's better not to do it.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I
Staying Ahead In Crowded Markets
SPEAKER_02just say, okay. So ISO for you, right? What's what's the role of ISO for you? How you helping them grow? I mean, you have a lot of experience, which is great. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So uh what I bring for in this company as well for you is my expertise on well, basically networking, knowing people. Um the good thing of these conferences is that when you go to conference, it's very good. There is like 5,000, 10,000, depending on the uh on the conference people that is around and people that are new, people that are uh like they already know everything about this industry. But then in the evening, usually big companies do some networking event with which the big guy are. And I I was lucky that at the beginning someone invited me there, and then I start to so people start to know me because I I stay usually with these eye league people. Um so what I bring with SL4U is first of all my expertise, so the connection that I have with people, and also I give Marco and the owner of the SL4U, I give suggestions to him how to how to be the one the the company of reference, not just another competitor that just wants to be in the part of the Ivy League, you know? Yeah, I'm I'm giving really good advice for him to how, so that's why I'm a business developer on how to build his company. And indeed, we already we already do uh well he already do a a big deal with the Dig Digisore. So now for the for the now on on the events, we have Digisore plus uh I sell for you. And this is this is very good because when people say this name, it's not just an the new company that is coming around, is the company that is sponsored the event with a big company like Digisore. So people start to say, Oh wow, this guy should be should be very good. Yeah,
Fixing The Back-End Sales Engine
SPEAKER_00so uh credibility, the credibility, okay? Yeah, uh and um another thing is that people um we we uh uh we think that uh people already know everything. Instead, it's not like this. I met a lot of uh new vendors here that they make a lot of money with the front end, perfect, but they don't know anything about abandoned card, email marketing, and this is all opt-in that you can do for increasing your revenue basically for free. And they don't know anything, but maybe that us like us that we know how how these things work. We think that also people that have offer know already these things, but instead no, yeah. So, what we do is give advice to them too. We say, Okay, you have a good offer, perfect. Let's do let's add this other layer of the abandoned card. It's my it's free money for you, so it's a win-win situation. So why why you don't do it? What you shouldn't do it. Yeah, that's why is uh is um a great formula that is work because the win-win situation is always I was I was talking with one guy just one hour ago, and he says I think he's do one, I think one million per month, something like this. And it doesn't have abandoned card. He says to me, Ah, in the serium, I have in Portuguese, we were talking in the serium, I have a lot of abandoned cards, but I don't know how to recover how I should do it. You know how much money you are losing, you're losing on the table.
SPEAKER_02How much do you think he's leaving on the table every month? So he's doing a million a month.
SPEAKER_00Probably so maybe 10, 15. Wow. 100, 100, 100, 150,000. Probably, probably, probably, probably maybe more. Yeah, maybe more because actually the OV of this person, okay, the you you do the sale at the at the moment, but actually you acquire a new client, and then in the future, in the back end, you start to send email and everything. So the average OV is way much more than this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So and for sure with this guy, we will we will give him free money basically. Yeah, for sure. So but but the thing is, uh, what I want to say is that uh let's don't take for granted that everyone knows how things work. Is this that what I was aware in this period that we thought, ah, is a vendor? Ah, okay. The vendor should should know how how the things go. But instead, no, they are great vendors, but they don't know everything. So our role is to guide them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're right about that. I mean, you you I think President Obama said one time that you'd be amazed how you think people are like you hold them up to here, but they really don't know shit. Some other lady said one time that most people they wing it. In America, wing it means like you figure it out. I mean, all my life I just figured shit out, right? Yeah, and I think it's the business owners move so fast, you're trying to survive, you're like this, you're trying that, and you can't. That's why you have to build a team around you, and you have to have our right partners, and that's where you guys come into play. But I yeah, I know that for a fact. I mean, I I I was uh had a call center, we were working on billion, uh multi-billion, 50 billion, 80 billion dollar utility companies, and they were clueless. They didn't know how to run call centers, they didn't know how to reach their customers. I couldn't believe it. I was nervous in meetings. I'm like, I'm I was like young, man. I was like 30 years old at the time, and I'm I'm in these meetings with these 45, 50 year old executives, billion-dollar companies, and I felt like I felt like an idiot, but I realized, you know what? I don't need to know all that. All I gotta do is call the people, get them in the house so they can move, change the meter. And once I did that, everything was fine, right? But yeah, they don't people know what they know, they don't know what they don't know, you know, and and that's what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00That yeah, as you say, there is people that just jump because they're uh they know something, uh they figure out, and but they don't know anything. Yeah. And something works for them, so they are they keep going, but they need to learn more. Yeah, they they need to because the offer, how you make an offer and any offer, have a lot of layers that you can add. But if you don't know, you don't know, and you think that this is the standard, this is the the amount that you Uh want to gain that that that you deserve to gain. But instead you you can have even more with just some opt-in, just having the connection with the right company, the right guy. And you don't you don't even have to do anything. When once you once you set up everything, you you can even forget about it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you put an autopilot. Yeah. Yeah, one thing Marco was talking about is that you have a lot of clients that you're on board and you go through the whole flow. I think Erica handles most of that, right? And then she'll examine uh what's what are they doing from point A to point Z all the way to the end. And you'll she'll notice, or you guys will notice that they might have the flow, but there's no number to call in to drive an inbound, right? So you guys are putting numbers for them to call in. It's leading to, I don't know, 30, 40% of people calling in. You close those people, right? But little things like that make a huge difference at the end of the day. And so you guys are the experts at that. So you guys are able to find out where they're leaking money and where you can help recover that money for them.
SPEAKER_00And don't understand another thing.
Human Connection Beats AI Selling
SPEAKER_00We are living in a world of digital, okay? AI, crazy, smartphone, everything, okay? So people are constantly in contact with the technology, but they secretly secretly craving for human contact. So when a company calls you and says, ah, what what was your problem? Why don't you buy the product or what's the problem with the credit card? And they buy, that person will remember you because a human person called them. That's why also a lot of AI call center doesn't work. Because when when people listen AI or figure out, oh, even when they see a video in an AI video, that they they just turn off the brain and say, okay, they want to send me something. So this is what they think secretly, like everyone. So when you call, this person will remember you, and then when you start to propose them other things, well, the company starts to propose other offer from the it's it's it's a client that is more caldal. So it's they start to be uh a more a client that likes more your company.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you build a connection, and people people are craving connection now.
SPEAKER_00And what what what is very important is that the way that we sell things, well, that the the company should sell things is to to make person um stick to your brand, okay? Because the real money are in the back end. So every time that you that you acquire a good client, tomorrow you can give uh another product, another product, and and they will buy just because of your brand. Yeah. Okay. But if you don't call, or if you if you are lazy, say, ah, with the AI, I will do things. I will there is the I things that call doesn't work. Because people like that little human context that uh shouldn't be lost.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think. I love it. Marco talked about that too. You have a customer service team that calls, checks in, are you taking the peptide? How's it going? Do you want to talk to the doctor right now? So you'll make many of those calls. You might make two, three, four, five of those, and you don't even ask for an order. You make that connection, they remember you. That way, when you do ask for the order, on the sixth phone call, fifth phone call, whatever, they buy right away. There's a connection there, right?
SPEAKER_00And they not only buy that product, okay, they will buy more products from the same brand because they remember the product. And they refer. And people talk. Okay. If the product is good, they say, ah, let's try try this product, try this product. So when you do just one percent more compared to other one, people
Make Friends Before Business
SPEAKER_00remember you. Yeah. It's the same. Another mistake that I see, for example, when I'm when I'm in the dinner with with big companies, is I see that people focus on closing uh deals. Instead, I see that what works more is focus on make friends, focus on people that have your same vibes. Then you talk about business. In this way, you have a good route for for for make business together. Instead, I see that the the an amateur mistake that people do is that go straight to the big guy and says, Ah, I do this, I do this, uh, please, please buy me the my product. No, no, no. First, make friends with people with people that vibes you, okay? And then you make business with these people. Yeah. Okay. This is what worked for me, for example. Uh, and that this is what I suggest to do also to everyone.
SPEAKER_02I also think, too, that with a lot of salespeople. I'll give you an example of the podcast, right? This podcast is not how I make money, right? I my I have we we we make money with leads. We have I have several different entities, right? We make money selling leads, we make money with something government contracting as well, right? And then we have the LFG show, which helps to build this community and it supports a lot of those other businesses, right? But now we're at the point where now LFG show is making money. We have sponsorships, right? And we and we have to turn sponsorships away. We could have 10, 12 sponsors right now if I wanted to, but I don't want that. We're not, we don't need the fucking money. I want to be with the right people. I like the energy from Marco. Marco wanted to do stuff with me for a while, and like, I wasn't ready yet, I had so much fun. I'm like, I like the energy, I like the product, it makes a lot of sense, right? So the point I was trying to say is that a lot of people start these podcasts or and they need, they live or die by the views, right? They live or die of how much money the podcast makes. And I think because we don't do that, we don't we can make our money from other ways, that's why we're growing the way we're growing. We're growing organically, right? And I think that's what happens with salespeople. Like, they need to make money so bad that they're not thinking about the customer, they're thinking about themselves. And that's where they they fuck up, is what happens.
SPEAKER_00I see a lot of mistakes, like um because people sometimes are a little bit blind and they they think that money is the only thing to be chased. So they say, okay, this guy is the owner of the company of the money. I should talk with this guy. Yeah, you can talk this guy, but but look at the vibes that gives you with you. Yeah, because if something is wrong, if if you don't really like this person, uh do you really want to do business with him, with a person that maybe you don't cannot trust, that maybe stab your back? Because if the vibes is not good, like and always in life, when when you stick with people that vibes you, life get better. You growing better, you are you even feel better, and you start to attract more opportunity that that vibes you. This is the best advice that I can give. Stop to chase only money, focus more on human relationship or uh on friends, and then things will naturally come.
SPEAKER_02I love that advice. That's very simple advice that gets overlooked a lot of times. That I've gotten better at this. I mean, I was always, even though I just said what I said, but I'd always look, I'm the CEO of companies, right? So I'm always looking at the numbers. You know, you want to grow, and then when you don't grow, you don't see those numbers grow up, like it kind of drives you nuts. You feel like you're you're you're fucking dying, right? I mean, let's fucking go. That's what we do, right? But sometimes you have to take a step back. And there's business. There might be a person that's making a lot of money, they can help grow your company, but they're the vibe is not good. You know they fucked other people before. Yeah, yeah. And I've done that. We're like, ah, they they they won't do that to me. And watch they do it to you.
SPEAKER_00How intense when when when you stick with these person?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that that's doesn't work. No, it doesn't work. It's just like a marriage, like if it's it's it's not gonna work. I mean, business is a marriage at the end, you're gonna get in bed with somebody, right? So I learned that I learned that the hard way, right? But I agree. Like now I only try to work with people that I enjoy, like, and that's why I'm working with you guys. Marco's energy is always good. He went to see Patrick met David, he had an American flag. I'm like, I love this fucking guy, man. Like, this is why I just like I told Chance, listen, let's just work with these guys. We'll figure it out. And as I learn more about you guys, I feel better about it because it's like the product makes sense, it's good for business owners. It's it's an alignment there, right? So I love that you said that. I really do. You know what happened also?
SPEAKER_00That uh globally, globally, when you start to work with people that matter, uh they they rather prefer to have a deal with people that they like compared to people that are more cheap. Yeah, I agree. Uh so they say, I don't care if I need to pay more, I want to stick with this person. Uh people that are that that look too much the numbers, that too much greedy, may have a little bit of success, but I I don't think I is not my way to to build uh short term because because you can be very successful with money, okay, but you stick with the wrong people, and you're I I feel that your life will is miserable because you then when I'm here with Marco, I don't feel that I'm working. Yeah, because we enjoy, we we make jokes, yeah. Like, like really, I don't feel that's why I'm very energetic. I sleep barely sleep. Like I but I can do this when you enjoy. You cannot this when when you stick with the wrong people. You need to stick with people that that you give energy and he he gives energy back, and then you you you synergize. This is the way to to make deals and and and and live the life, you know.
SPEAKER_02I love it. Yeah, great advice. Man, this was great. We we we I didn't expect to talk about all this stuff. I know we started with VSLs, we were a lot of, but it's all at the end of the LG shows about getting good people together, give you ideas like a spark, help you grow. Don't guys don't forget we got iSellforyu.com slash LFG. Just some specials there for you to take full advantage. These guys got look, they they got good people working on the team, people with a lot of experience that know what they're doing. And this has been fun for me. I've enjoyed being here the last two days
Brazil Takeaways And Next Steps
SPEAKER_02with you guys, man. And uh, I guess the last thing I'll ask you before the how is Brazil? How's it been for you the show so far? Great, great. Sao Paulo, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Great. Uh uh is Sao Paulo is like the the business center of of Brazil, okay? Uh really South America, Latin America, yeah. Really like the business center of Latin America. I didn't realize that. I have a lot of skyscraper like this. So you you you you have the vibes of uh like a New York vibe, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you go to the main road, Avenida Paulista, you will see the skyscraper and kind of seems uh seems like New York. Um so I I was also in other cities in Brazil. Okay, this city is not the typical Brazilian city that maybe you have in your in your like Rio, yeah. Like like Rio, Rio is crazy, like like party, beach, like the it's it's very nice. Um here are more con, okay? No, not that this crazy uh energy, but but still, still is very nice, yeah. And also, guys, one other thing, everyone thinks that Brazil is dangerous like this. Yeah, it's dangerous, but just you just need to be a little bit careful. But at the end of the day, yeah, we have we made it.
SPEAKER_02No, I laugh because like everyone told me we're gonna get robbed. I fucking every day, like five or four times a don't go walking with this, don't do this. I'm like, it reminds me when I was a kid. We used to go to Columbia. My mom, we come from Venezuela, we go to a place called Cuguta, and they tell me all this fucking shit, like they're gonna try, don't worry, Nikes because they're gonna chop your fucking legs, I mean your feet, and they're gonna take your Nikes. It fucked my head, and I'm having flashbacks, but I I feel great, I feel safe as shit. I don't know what this bullshit is.
SPEAKER_00Okay, this is an area that is safe. Okay, of course, maybe if you if you go, it's like Naples in Italy, it's the same. If you go in the city center, it's safe. If you start to go a little bit outside, you need to very be careful. But uh, but but it's okay. I I think that the um the image that European and American also have about Brazil is like very uh very bad. They actually very more nice that we think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, oh, they're great people, man. Everyone's super nice in Europe. So great, so great. I talk to them in Spanish, they talk to me in Portuguese, it works somehow.
SPEAKER_00Doesn't work to to to judge a world country for someone that yeah, that do bad things, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, this has been great. I'm glad you came to Brazil. I'm glad I'm here. What a what an amazing experience it's been. I sell for you guys, hit them up. This guy's gonna help you grow. If you're a peptide telemet, anything, anything that you're checking out customers, they got your backs. Fucking go. Let's make some money. Boom. Boom. Thank you.
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