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How This Ecom Powerhouse Scales With Meta Ads ft. Deividas Tokaris
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We sat down with Deividas Tokaris, Founder of Triple Scale, live from Affiliate World in Budapest for a deep conversation on what is actually working in Meta advertising right now—and why the advertisers winning today are treating creative like a measurable production system instead of hoping for one great ad.
Meta ads aren't randomly “getting worse.” The platform is changing, competition is increasing, and teams that aren't measuring the right things are getting exposed.
One of the biggest metrics Deividas focuses on is something many brands still don't track:
CREATIVE WIN RATE.
What percentage of the ads your team produces actually become winners?
If you don't know that number, it's difficult to manage your creative team, forecast budgets, scale production, or understand whether your real problem is volume, concepts, execution, targeting, or the offer itself.
Deividas breaks down how serious advertisers can use creative win rate to make better decisions and explains why successful brands are increasingly operating like media companies.
We also get into the myth of the “infinite money glitch.”
Buying more traffic isn't enough.
Long-term e-commerce growth depends on retention, customer experience, fulfillment, strong offers, post-click execution, and building a business that can actually support the traffic you're paying for.
Deividas also shares his journey from selling pizza coupons to becoming a media buyer, eventually helping scale brands to serious revenue—and the lessons that came when rapid growth created entirely new operational problems.
Then we zoom out to one of the biggest opportunities many US advertisers overlook:
EUROPE.
With large audiences, potentially lower CPMs in certain markets, and less competition than some US categories, Europe can offer brands an opportunity to diversify—but localization, market selection, logistics, and understanding each region matter.
We also discuss Meta ad account bans, backup plans, platform relationships, and why attending conferences and building real relationships inside the industry can become a competitive advantage.
If you're a media buyer, DTC brand owner, affiliate marketer, agency owner, or entrepreneur spending money on Meta, this episode is packed with practical insights on:
• Meta Ads
• Creative Testing
• Creative Win Rate
• Facebook & Instagram Advertising
• DTC & E-Commerce Growth
• Media Buying
• Scaling Brands
• Retention & Customer Experience
• European Markets
• Meta Account Redundancy
• Product-Market Fit
• Knowing When To Pivot
A huge thank you to KJ Rocker and Affiliate World for partnering with The LFG Show and helping us bring conversations like this directly from some of the biggest stages and events in performance marketing.
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SPEAKER_02How do you tell people to pivot? Or how do people find new products? What's your advice for that? We are a powerhouse in e-commerce.
SPEAKER_01We have so much e-com for such a small country going on. I think we're like number two in the world in the per capita. They find the first product that's working in milk. It's a capital asset, and they start launching multiple parallel brands and then create huge portfolios. We call it venture studios. We could create big portfolios for different brands that bring you capital, and digital products have a short-term window, a two-year window, while uh e-commerce has a four-year window, depending on what state you are in. Every single trend has a firing date.
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Affiliate World Barcelona And Guest Intro
SPEAKER_02Affiliate World Barcelona. We've got David S. Taco S. Did I said it right? Yeah, that's perfect. Hey guys. I said it right. I said it good. Yeah, that's perfect. All right, here we go. We got the founder of Triple Scale. We're talking meta. David S just got off stage, right? Helping companies scale. Meta. Look, he's got he's got the meta glasses there. Scan the QR code, bro. When it win another pair you can give away. You just got off stage, bro. You just crushed it. So tell me tell me what we talk about. What what type of value did they give the audience? Let's talk meta.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sure.
Meta’s Third Wave Of Performance
SPEAKER_01Uh so yeah, just got off the stage. Super pumped, excited. I always get nervous before uh going on the stage, but uh after the first few seconds, just goes away. So I my main message was creative testing for meta, how it's changing, and how meta is changing in general. Because we are right now in the third wave of performance marketing. In the last year, probably everybody has noticed that it has changed, right? So the way you test creative has changed. That was my key takeaway there.
SPEAKER_02But testing, testing creatives, exactly. A lot of, I mean, some people are getting crushed on meta, some people are getting pressed on a Google, like that. So many people are failing and trying, and like, so what type of advice were you giving?
Win Rate And Becoming A Media Company
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so my main advice and the angle I was going for is track your win rate. So win rate is basically a percentage of your ads that are winners, right? So let's say you test 100 ads, one of them is a winner, so you have 1% win rate. A lot of brands are missing this out because they don't know what's their win rate. So if you don't know what's your win rate, how can you optimize your creative team? And in this day and age, if you want to make it in terms with meta ads and scale e-commerce business, you either have to be a retention powerhouse or you have to become a media company. You know, you either do kick ass creative or you know retain your crew uh your customers really well. So that's why you have to know your creative win rates, uh, optimize accordingly, and uh make conclusions out of that. If you want to do more ads, if you should improve quality of the ads, you know, what kind of ads you should do. So that was the main takeaway for uh for the audience.
SPEAKER_02Are you specifically in e-comm for e-com companies? Or we work both with e-com, info products, apps, uh, but definitely in the white hat space. I just uh heard you talk to my man JP.
SPEAKER_01You were talking about uh you guys only work with European in the European market, or we work with US brands as well, uh, all over the world, basically US, Canada, UK, or Europe. I
Europe Sleeper Markets With Low CPMs
SPEAKER_01just feel one thing I might add about Europe is that a lot of US brands are missing out on Europe because it's a sleeper market. Yeah, there are a lot of different languages and countries with different uh cultures, but uh CPMs are crazy low in Europe. And if you're just advertising in the States, Canada, UK, Australia, like these generic choices, um, you're missing out. You should be coming to Europe.
SPEAKER_02And I thought again, I thought that was interesting. I just kind of caught like a tail end of that conversation. And you were saying, like, hire someone over there, find someone over in Europe or whatever, and start like an entity or something. Can you talk about that or whatever? It gives you a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we were uh we were talking in the context of getting on boarded by Meta, like being managed directly by Meta. Right. Uh so he was asking if he can get some contact because he's spending 50 million uh per year on ads, which is quite a lot of money in Europe. You would definitely be already on boarded uh by Meta because the thresholds are a little bit different, and uh that's one advantage. If you are based in Europe, uh you will get better access to Meta there. So you know, you don't you don't need to spend as much to get direct access and be managed directly by Meta and to get all of these advantages. While in the States, you know, there are a lot of big brands that spend even more.
SPEAKER_02Huge brands, and and but you hear like the margins are so much bigger here, Brazil, like uh away from the United States. Like, I feel like um people overseas and and over here, they're just doing so much better because yeah, you know, less restrictions or or whatever the case may be.
SPEAKER_01But um is the CPMs, you know, like in Europe there are sleeper markets. Let's say let's take Romania as a country. It's a country with 18 million people, I believe, around 20 million, or even Poland, let's say 40 million people, right? CPM, there's local competition, but if you come in with the know-how of direct response marketing, you know, if you localize correctly, you have access to 40 million people, a growing economy, fastest growing economy in the world, right? And uh low CPMs, you know, the CPMs are four times lower than US. Of course, the buying power is not as high as the US, but uh that's a really good way to diversify. So, what happened, uh, especially after the tariffs and everything, this uh the recent years, all of European brands started scaling in Europe, and I see this as uh quite a good uh potential for a lot of brands, and of course, as a European agency, we can uh we can we support our clients in in that going to other other markets.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I see you getting bombarded after you got off the stage, people coming up to you. So, I mean, you were dropping some sauce for sure. Uh, how did you get started in the industry? Let's
From Pizza Coupons To Media Buyer
SPEAKER_02let's go back a little bit. When did you start this? How did you start the company?
SPEAKER_01Uh how long have you been in the game? Yeah, I've been in the game, I've been for seven years. I started as an intern, unpaid junior media buyer. Uh hustled my my ass for two two months uh for free. I wasn't getting paid, but I was just loving it. I was loving advertising. Is I'm a marketer, you know. But the way it started was really funny. I think I un I figured out that social media marketing is a thing. When I saw Ty Lopez ad in the garage, you probably remember that legendary ad. Yep. Um, I saw it and I I I think I bought his course. And my first ever client was uh because I'm a sm from a small town in Lithuania, it's like 20,000 people. I went to my local pizza store and I was like, I'm gonna work for free, I'm gonna do social media. And they paid me in pizza coupons when I was 16 years old. Yeah, so that's when it started for me, the passion for marketing, and then I got into media buying. Uh, I was uh lucky enough to work with really big e-commerce brands. Um, you know, I as soon as I joined, I scaled brands from let's say zero to 25 million in a year, really cool case studies, and then naturally it evolved into an agency, and I love helping clients.
SPEAKER_02Let's talk about that case study. Uh you said from zero to twenty-five million in one year. Yeah, can we talk a little bit about that? Or I don't
Zero To $25M Then Shipping Chaos
SPEAKER_02know if you want to name drop, but let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_01That uh yeah, it was at first it was a long time ago. So I joined that company an agency and I was still kind of like just starting out, but uh basically it was a print on demand product, and print on demand products are you know, it's really seasonal. You know, uh we started uh we started scaling during Q4, so we really hit a certain design of that print on demand product because it was canvases, right? That you can put and we really hit the spot, we found an angle that worked, we found a design that worked, we personalized it. We were, you know, they were the first ones to personalize the the design of the Canva, you know, it was from zero, you know, to 25 mil, you know, and then it crashed down, unfortunately, after that. But uh it was uh it was a huge learning how you can go virtually from zero to spending 200k per day, right? You know, that's that's uh insane amount of spend that you can have to handle. What do you think? What do you think was the cause of the the crash? Um, it was COVID at that point, and it was just pure customer experience. People started refunding because they bought for uh to get the products in time for Christmas, and it just didn't uh you know they just didn't yeah, the shipping problem. Otherwise, probably they would have continued. But also with such products that scale fast, they also come and go fast. You know, you have one year, two years max until you milk it out. Um, usually the brands that do come and stay are the ones that have linear growth. They focus not only on paid, but they also focus on on uh other aspects SEO, you know, a geo, uh other other stuff that retention, emails, those brands that are actually sustained their success.
SPEAKER_02Nice. Um what else what else? You're you've been speaking.
SPEAKER_01When was the first time you got on stage? Um, it's not my first time. Uh I'm speaking in uh in multiple conferences. So in the Philly in the affiliate world, this is my first time that I'm speaking, but in our region in the Baltics, we have different uh e-commerce expos. Uh so that's that's where I you know speak there on podcasts, etc.
SPEAKER_02And you mentioned you're coming to the states soon in October, you're gonna go over there. What do you got going on over there?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I'm just visiting gonna be visiting New York, see what uh what it's about. But I'm actually thinking about moving to the states for sometime, free six months, just to um be there, you know, be the in the environment where people are scaling. I heard Austin is a pretty cool city. I have some friends there, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_02Austin, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Arizona. I mean, everybody's made that everybody's making money everywhere, New York, right? New Jersey. Exactly. So um you started, you said seven years ago, uh, you started at a pizza place. What what what did the pizza? How did you you you were getting pizza coupons? Did you help the business out?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, um, they just gave me their Facebook and Instagram. I remember this is where my first um touch with creative strategy started because I was responsible for making creatives, the posts, posting it on Instagram, Facebook. I mean, we did achieve some results. It was nothing significant because I had no idea, I had no clue what I was doing. But reflecting back on my journey, I think that naivety that you have when you're young is is a superpower because I just went there, I talked with the founder, like, I'm gonna scale your face social media, you're gonna get so many clients. I'm not sure if they got any clients, but uh I did get that extra pizza, and uh I uh I fell in love with uh social media marketing. That's where it all started after that.
SPEAKER_02So we're still blown away, is blown away zero to twenty-five million dollars in one year. Um, any other case studies? Like what's what's more recent?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, we had a lot of amazing case studies. Uh uh, we have them on our website, and uh even the video testimonials from our clients, like we had cases going from zero to a 50k a day ad spend as well. That this something like that. Um, we helped clients go virtually with pre-revenue to generating a lot of revenue. So, as I said, 50k a day. We had a client which I personally managed when I was still a freelancer, uh, it was spending 100 per day, and then over a month we went to spending 500k per month. It was a digital product, it's an app, so we don't have you know stock constraints. So once you find that creative winner and everything comes into place, it's just pedal to the metal. You imagine you increase the spend and ROAS doesn't drop it's like infinite money glitch at that point. So we had a lot of case studies, helped a lot of uh clients, uh you know, both in the in the US and in Europe as well.
SPEAKER_02Do
Hero Products And Venture Studio Pivots
SPEAKER_02you see that like most uh your clients are like focused on one product or many products?
SPEAKER_01What it's usually yeah, I'd say that uh more our ICP and our clients that we work with, usually they're like what they have one or two products, the hero products that work for them, and usually we focus on them. Because if you have a lot of SQUs, it really um dispersers' attention, you know, you focus on multiple products, while in reality, if you're in D2C, um you want to sell you know directly, you know, direct response, you have to be focusing on paints, mechanics, solutions, and you have to be focused on one specific product, one specific niche, one specific outcome.
SPEAKER_02You mentioned one to two years, you have like a window, and then the product may die out. And how do how do you tell people to pivot? Or how do people find new products? What's your advice for that?
SPEAKER_01So, a model that uh a lot of companies in Lithuania use, and I'm not sure how much you know about Lithuania, but uh we are a powerhouse in e-com. We have so much e-com for such a small country going on. I think we're like number two in the world in in a per capita uh of e-com now that's going on. And the model that brands in Lithuania use is they find the first product uh that's working, they milk it, it's a cash flow asset, and they start launching parallel brands, multiple parallel brands, um, and then create huge portfolios, venture like they call it we call it venture studios. You can create big portfolios of different brands that bring you cash flow. And uh digital products have a shorter window. Digital products or apps have a two-year window, while uh e-commerce has around four-year window, depending on what what level what stage you want in, right? But every every single trend has a has a expiry date. And uh once you see it's working, milk the cash flow and uh and reinvest into launching uh new products. You should always have an RD process going on, you should always be experimenting, even if it's 10% of your time and resources, you should always be experimenting, launching new products or new brands altogether.
SPEAKER_02So you you so don't keep all your eggs in one basket for sure. Test and get ready. Like, where
When To Pivot And When To Start
SPEAKER_02where do you see most businesses fail? Like when they're trying to ride a wave too long or they didn't get out, or yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'd say, you know, whenever you see that, uh of of course you never know, it might be seasonality, but if you if you see that your product is not achieving significant results for a period of time, let's say six months, and you go through Black Friday, you know, Q1, it's just not sticking. I would just then at that point think about pivoting. So you always, whenever you get into the game, you always have to have a plan of action prepared prior to that. So let's say if I burn a certain amount of cash, what do I do now then? Do I pivot? Do I kill? And you just have to keep to that plan. So I'd say um if you're not getting significant results for an extended period of time, then it's probably a time to pivot. Um, because the industry is moving really fast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like you said, if you're not making money on Black Friday, Christmas, and all that. Exactly. And you're holding on to something that's just not there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's an indication if Black Friday you're not scaling, then uh you either missed your offer completely, uh, or you don't have a product market for.
SPEAKER_02Do you feel like there that that's a good is there a season when people should start if they're just getting in? Is there a specific season when they should get going or a season to stay away from?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'd say the worst period to test a new product is Black Friday because, well, you don't know you don't know what you don't know, and you jump into the market at the hottest stage, which of course you might be uh you might join like the the well, you know, increased buying intent uh period, but also you might miss it because the CPMs are super high, right? So testing something during Black Friday and Q4 in general is gonna be more expensive. So if it's a health wellness product, the best time to test a new product is Q1 January because everybody's concerned about your health, stuff like that. Yeah, near me, etc. This is the best time. If you launch an e-commerce, I think the best time to start it is summer because you can get into the groove and if it works, you can start preparing for Black Friday. So summer, I think, is is usually a perfect time for launching an e-commerce. If it's a health and wellness, Q1. You want to warm up in the summertime, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You want to warm things up.
Ideal Clients And Product Market Fit
SPEAKER_02Um, what is your ideal uh client or people that you work with? Are they larger companies? Are they startups? Do you work with startups?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we do work with startups. We help uh help multiple brands go from uh pre-revenue to finding a product market fit and even scaling to let's say spending $5,000 per day. So something significant where they're generating revenue. Uh so our ideal customer, I'd say, is is a brand that's already ideally has a product market fit, is spending around 20 to 50k per month and is looking for creative and media buying uh guidance uh from an agency to get to that next stage because we've seen all of these stages, we've seen brands go from zero to one million, from one million to five, and all of these stages require different inputs. Going from zero to one requires different stuff than from one to five, right? Um, so yeah, that's you know, we work with e-commerce brands in DTC sphere. Um, yeah.
Handling Meta Bans And Backup Plans
SPEAKER_02What about people uh getting their accounts shut down? I know that's a big issue for people, and meta's like cracking down on some people hard. What do you guys do for that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's uh funny because my personal profile was banned a couple of weeks ago. I managed to get it back because of our contact with Meta, but uh no one no one is safe. I'll tell you that much for sure. Uh, because I have on my account for many years and uh it was never banned before. So I'd say people that are struggling with ad account bans diversify, have multiple DMs, uh, have multiple ad accounts. Ideally, you know, try and get contact with Meta. Uh, always one hack that I can tell you is uh buy the blue tick for your Instagram and Facebook profiles because they do help in case of your personal profile ban. It definitely does help, I know that. Uh, but of course you have to pay for that. Um, but in it definitely comes in handy. And uh working with an agency that is a trusted meta marketing partner can also help. So, for example, we're a chest trusted meta marketing partner, and clients that work with us get the same access to meta that we do. So you're basically it's an extra value that you that you get.
SPEAKER_02How
Building Meta Relationships Through Conferences
SPEAKER_02did you let's talk about that relationship? Because I'm like like you said, that's that's huge. You want to make sure that you it's not what you know, it's who you know sometimes. How did you build that relationship with meta? Did they was it from the conferences? Was it just from you know your success?
SPEAKER_01Conferences, yeah. And that's one thing that I can uh my me my main takeaway. The the reason why I built my agency successfully is because I went out and seeked a network. I went to conferences, you know, not because most people just run ads, they do email, outreach, LinkedIn, um, and they expect to get customers. But if you want to really scale, you have to get your skin in the game, create contacts, they will come in handy. And that's how I created the content. I went to a meta conference and just started talking with meta people. Then I got a direct contact uh on WhatsApp, started chatting. I was on board and it took a year, but we but we managed to get there.
SPEAKER_02Get in the right rooms, guys. Affiliate World, Budapest, KJ Rocker. Shout out to KJ, always showing love. Um, you got you gotta come to the shows. You gotta come to the shows, you gotta shake hands, you gotta go to the booths and meet people. Um, have you got a chance to go around the show yet today?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course. Um, I mean a lot of amazing brands, also a lot of people that I know uh from the industry as well. So really cool seeing, and that's the point. It's very uncomfortable to get into a room full full of people and go and shake hands and introduce yourself. But um, recently I also recorded another podcast and they asked me a question. So, like, what's one key takeaway uh that you're trying to get from conferences? And my goal isn't to come in here and find a million dollar um deal. My goal is to come in a conference and have free, meaningful, meaningful conversations. That's it. Don't have like expectations coming in and lining million-dollar deals, just come here, provide value to people, be a nice person, have free meaningful conversations. That will be amazing. Takeaway.
SPEAKER_02What was the most meaningful conversation you had so far today?
SPEAKER_01I think it's uh it might be this one.
SPEAKER_02This one right here. So we're still working on we're still working on the three. Yeah, this one this one's good. We'll have we'll have some value, we'll share some links down here and make sure people can reach out to you. But so you've you've got you got some circling around to do, some talking to do and stuff. And it always helps when you're on stage. Like I said, it's like it's like you're a magnet at that point. People, you have automatic respect, right? You know, KJ's not just gonna put anybody. On the stage. At Philly World's not just going to put anybody on the stage. So you guys are credible, already respected. So you know that that helps as well.
SPEAKER_01Social poof. Like I recommend everybody go into conferences and try to get into speaking spots because that social poof really translates. People come to you and it makes the life easier, as you said.
SPEAKER_02So absolutely.
Company Goals And Staying Current
SPEAKER_02Hold on. Rain fart, rain fart. Because you said you said what was the key takeaway from the show. What are you looking forward to the most out of this show? And what are your goals for your company? What is your goals? What are your goals for your company and where you want to be in the next couple years? Or what are you trying to accomplish right now?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, in terms of company, I just want to continue uh continue growing the company, but also want to make sure we uh stay integral, like uh make sure the quality for the for the client delivery is there. Um, and also make sure that I build a company that operates smoothly because I'm still uh a found it's a founder-led agency. Just being totally transparent, like I'm in the company, I'm there a lot. And the goal, whenever we're building a business, the goal is to build uh a company, an asset, let's say, that would be able to operate without you. So that's one of the one of the goals for me is to operate that uh and I'm close, getting closer there. Uh something that would be able to deliver value at scale without me needing to, let's say, jump into sluts. If you could do everything all over again, what would you do? Um probably I would do everything the same, honestly. Like I I think my path was really, really streamlined. I started freelancing, getting clients. I think the main the main takeaway is just provide value to people, you know, just just provide value uh to people. Initially provided free value, gave away everything, all my knowledge for free, like I did on the stage just now. And uh, you know, karma kind of pays you back somehow. You just come back, you know, and the universe works it out.
SPEAKER_02The game changes so much too. So the sauce you give today might you know be different tomorrow. So uh really it's about staying up to date. And uh, how do you stay up to date? How do you stay up to date with changes and regulations? Is it the rooms? Is it your um websites? What is it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think you just have to get your hands dirty. And like uh, I jump into accounts, I look at the accounts, what's happening. Uh I also post on LinkedIn myself. Like, I I write content, and I think writing content really helps you to reflect and really understand. Like, uh, you know, because I want to write a post about meta, I have to actually go and read about meta. So I think writing content helps me with uh staying relevant, and uh yeah, that's uh that's a you know that's uh the main thing. Staying, you know, get your hands dirty.
SPEAKER_02Get your hands dirty, you gotta get in the weeds, right? Yeah,
Final Advice Links And Subscribe
SPEAKER_02uh anything else you want to say to the audience?
SPEAKER_01Anything you want to share, advice, final words? I guess like what I can share is uh the main key takeaway from uh from my speech today, from the uh from the keynote, is if you're an e-commerce brand, track your win rate, make sure you know what percentage of your creatives are winners, and uh you either have to become a retention powerhouse or you have to be a media powerhouse. And if you don't know how to do it, you can always seek help from uh from agencies, not necessarily ours, but uh if you if you might need help from us, feel free to reach out to on LinkedIn.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, share me, share, go ahead, share where where can people find you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just uh it's uh scale triple.com is our website uh for the agency. You can see all the case studies that we have. Book a call with me, and also I'm active on LinkedIn. I post content and provide free value. David, let's talk of this. Uh, feel free to reach out. I'll I'm a friendly guy.
SPEAKER_02David is thank you. I think it's uh almost lunchtime. We should probably go have some gulash or something, do it, do it Budapest style. Appreciate your time. Good luck. Ah, we're there. I love G, baby.
SPEAKER_00See ya guys. Thank you.
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