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The Journey Out
The Journey Out Podcast is a podcast designed to be the helping hand for everyday people who are on their Exodus Journey!
You were designed for a purpose and many times, just like Moses, we need a burning bush or sign from God that it is time to leave, or journey out, from what we are used to, to be propelled to where we are called to be.
Join us for engaging, informative and resourceful conversation ranging from healthcare to entrepreneurship to family values.
The Journey Out
Building a Family Legacy Through Love and Service Starring Our Hosts
What happens when the interviewers become the interviewees? In this special role-reversed episode, Tamika and Janiah from OG LLC. step into the hosting chairs to uncover the remarkable story behind Antoine and Bryunna, the father-daughter team that hosts The Journey Out podcast.
This candid conversation reveals how a deeply personal family challenge—a grandmother's dementia diagnosis—sparked a mission that eventually grew into multiple thriving businesses built on unwavering values. Antoine shares how his medical background and desire to help others led to founding a healthcare business, while Bryunna describes the undeniable calling she felt to join her father despite his initial hesitation.
Their journey wasn't without obstacles. The duo openly discusses navigating the complexities of their dual relationship—being family at home while maintaining professional boundaries in business. "What I had to realize within that first year was that I was still a dad and she was still a daughter," Antoine reflects, highlighting how establishing distinct contexts helped them thrive together.
When asked about their "secret sauce" for success, their answer is refreshingly simple yet profound: "The sauce is God." This foundation of faith, combined with their core values of family, love, and service, creates an authentic leadership approach that resonates with everyone they encounter. Their advice for other family businesses cuts straight to the heart of effective relationships: "Get out of your feelings and hold yourself accountable for your own actions."
Perhaps most inspiring is how they've maintained individual authenticity while creating something greater together. As Bryunna powerfully notes, "Everybody is not meant to lead and that's okay. But attributes of a leader is one who listens, who loves, and who can put their team first."
Ready to explore what happens when family values meet business ambition? Listen to this heartfelt conversation that will leave you reflecting on your own leadership journey and the values that guide your path forward.
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Speaker 2:I know this is not who you're used to seeing, but I'm Tamika and this is Janiyah, and we are OG LLC and we're flipping the script today. This is part two of our interview, where we're going to be talking to your normal hosts, Antoine and Brianna of the Journey Out Podcast and more. So welcome to the show, guys, thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 4:This is so different. But look, we do got tissues ready because we know they're gonna say something or ask us something that's gonna bring the tears, especially for me, for my crybaby self. So I'm ready.
Speaker 5:Whatever, yes, whatever y'all got, I'm ready first, thank you for letting us do this. Um, this is an idea I think I gave to you guys when you first started the podcast and antoine was not ready at that moment for us to do it. But one of the reasons that we wanted to do this was because I've had the privilege of meeting you all through other community partners and other people that we've worked with, and then we ended up being kind of in the same sphere, in the same circle, before even working with you guys, to see you all in action and work and the reputation that you have, the admiration that I hear people talk about the two of you in business, um, and just the care I've seen you take of other people. I was like there there's, there's something that we want to capture in having the opportunity to hear from the two of you.
Speaker 5:So thank you for letting me do it, because I know that you guys are both a little hesitant, but we will go easy on you, Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I'll have to say this I'll start here, because I don't know how much of this you've shared with your audience but you are a father-daughter duo that runs multiple businesses together. How did that start? Like what, what got you here? Like how, how did how? Did we end up at the table together with you all?
Speaker 4:Okay, so, first and foremost, my great grandmother uh, she was diagnosed with dementia. To make a long story short, um, we didn't understand what she was going through. She was living in the house with us, my brother and my sister. We were all young and we didn't understand what she was going through. Mind you, I was a medical assistant at this time. Dad was a medical assistant. I was working at Baylor downtown, he was working at Baylor in Carrollton and we were seeing this. But we didn't understand it. We got the diagnosis and we're like, hey, you're going to cure it, let's give her something. And they're like, no, there's no cure. You got to go take care of her. But that's all we got. Send her home. And we're like what are we going to do? He ends up, we end up kind of getting her together for the most part.
Speaker 3:Like we're understanding her Right together for the most part, like we're understanding right and that, and that was through research right and understanding what was available to us right so because we didn't know that at the beginning.
Speaker 3:And so as we started to implement some things to help her, because she was frustrated, she was withdrawn and so she stayed in her room because the house was frustrating, we you know. So it was just, it was just kind of chaotic and hard right. So once we started learning things, uh, finding resources and implementing some things, what happened? At that point we started seeing a kind of difference.
Speaker 3:So me working in a geriatric office clinic in Baylor Clareton, I mean Carrollton I kind of understood then like, oh, this is what is what's going on yeah, now it's affecting me, so I can see what's going on, yeah, and so from that point through that journey, we was like, hey, there's some other people in the community that need help or that need resources. So let's start a PC home.
Speaker 4:When he started PC, it was 2017. I was not a part of it then. I was nowhere near it because I was still in school and graduating and all that stuff. You know, once you get out of school, it's like you got to go get a job. We got to do these things. But that was actually looking back. God's his hand was all over that. I did geriatrics, I did internal, I did plastics, I did endocrinology and it all just got me to this point now where I knew a lot.
Speaker 4:So, going to work one morning, I was like my dad has a business and I knew why he started it. I knew what was going on. I'm like my dad has a business, I should probably help him. And so that whole drive I'm a podcast girl I turned the podcast down and I was like I need to help him. I go to work that day. I come back home and I was like I need to help him. I go to work that day. I come back home and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna help you run this business, I'm gonna help you. And he's like Bree, no, he was like just wait, give it six months. I can't pay you right now. You know, we just just save your money.
Speaker 4:And I was like, all right. Then I went to work the next day and it was still on my end. It was, it was just something, it was a God thing, brew, go help him. And I was like, okay, I went to work that morning but I didn't even talk to him. I went to work. I said, hey, you guys, unfortunately Friday's going to be my last day I have to do this.
Speaker 3:I came home I said, hey, I told him Friday's my last day and he's like why did you do that and so, that and so, but also quick to get to this point. Uh, she, she, she wanted to be part of the business. She was on vacation yeah, I was on vacation she was on vacation so, but I was happy that she was a part of it.
Speaker 4:So and then from there we just went through a roller coaster of learning, just getting clients in, clients dealing with a lot of the things that I learned during the process of going school and working at the hospital. Uh, we got hit with just different, different foundational business growth things and at that point I realized, hey, this is not for play like this is serious, yeah because she was.
Speaker 3:She was dead. Let's do this. I'm like I need you to do this dad, let's do this. Now, I need you to do this. Yeah, so she was. She was daddy, let's do this. I'm like no, I need you to do this, daddy, let's do this. No, I need you to do this. So she was getting frustrated, but at the same time, I was like listen, no, I've been there right now, I've done that.
Speaker 4:This is what I need you to focus on, and that's when I learned what you talked about the integrator piece.
Speaker 5:That's when I became he had help to put this together. Oh, I can do that, and that's kind of how the the duo kind of started. What I love about it is that you see people that operate in family and I think people admire that um one because they've probably tried it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, right and like that did not work yeah, and so I think, even when we've talked to you guys about that admiration of your family and how you and we'll share, about how you kind of bring that to life, um, it isn't without things being difficult, right? That's the beauty of what you guys have, is that it's not that like this was perfect. We kicked this off, y'all we knew we were doing, we just know, and so I think that share with us a little bit like not the, not the tribulations, but some of the things that help you guys, because I think that's what families see Well.
Speaker 3:first of all, what I had to realize, that, what I didn't realize, probably within that first year that I was still a dad and she was daughter.
Speaker 5:Right, right right.
Speaker 3:So as much as we were going and pushing and I was wanting, thing it was, and then she, she, I just looked at it as that. It was just one one thing.
Speaker 3:So what we had to do, or what I had to learn, is to kind of set boundaries yeah uh, I had to set boundaries, I had to turn uh running the company off in my head and I had to be dad Right. But for her it was just, it wasn't no boss or nothing, this is dad Right. So we had to kind of as we coming home, me and her, we can talk, and we can talk business all day and night. But she needed her space.
Speaker 4:And vice versa.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I don't. I didn't need no space. I was cool, but I had to realize that she needed her space to grow and to I had to turn it off yeah you know and be dead for her, and so, uh, that was one thing that we had to figure out, yeah, and once, once I figured that part out, I was like okay yeah, he was able to come to me then and he was like well, you got to understand, it's two, we're in two different worlds.
Speaker 4:Where I am dad at home, but I'm antoine here and I was like, yeah, that makes sense, and so I was going around in the community. I'm like, yeah, antoine, and but people, most people know that that's my dad, right, and so they're like you call your dad Antoine. I'm like, no, I don't, but in business I do, and that's how we set the tone.
Speaker 4:And so when I'm coming to him, I'm like, especially when we're in this business setting, look, you're, antoine, you're the visionary for this business. I'm coming at you like this because everybody else got to come at you like this, you know. So we, so we set the tone, you know what I mean. So that was that was pivotal for me, uh, because they helped me kind of understand. But also, I think roles like roles were super important for me too. So I was able to realize, because for me, he can tell me something and I'm like, oh, I know this, I know this, I know this, but it's hard for me to say, it's hard for me to say, no, he has to in the beginning, he has to make the final decision, right, oh, yeah, yeah, that was really hard in the beginning I didn't understand.
Speaker 4:I'm like, well, this is a great idea, we should just, you know. And so it was hard for us to kind of navigate that. So once I realized my role in is expanding the vision, and bringing to him pros, cons, laying it out so he can see the whole thing, and then he he's able to take all the pieces and make that decision that's gonna, you know yeah that's when I realized we're more powerful this way you know, and so that's been, that's been cool.
Speaker 2:So to that point, you know, you guys have experienced success in a business setting. You are a phenomenal family. I have not seen families of your size, of your character, of your heart be able to function as families and business people in such a successful way. And so, with that said, what is the secret? How do you do it? We know the trajectory, we know it was probably hard in the beginning, but you reached this point and things just seemed to blow up. But how? What's the sauce? How did you do it?
Speaker 3:The sauce is God.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's the foundation. I don't, I'm not, I'm not smart.
Speaker 2:I've learned.
Speaker 3:You know, I have learned but to do what we, to serve other people and to grow and to be close to family. It's been God. I can't do it without him. Secondly, understanding from family my wife, the kids and my mother and everybody the understanding and support, Because that's key, that is real key. So that was big, because it's not peaches and cream all the time right right, it's ups and downs and it's it's some good times and bad times, and when the bad times hit, they seem like they last longer than the good time.
Speaker 4:But that support from family, uh, and staying prayed up, that helps me I think, uh, well, just to piggyback off what you're, what you're saying there, I think that's, that is the sauce, because when I, when I wake up in the morning, my first thing is opening up the bible and getting right into it. Um, and I think that it makes our job a little bit easier, I think, just having that foundation, because we're going to always lead to what that says, so it just makes it.
Speaker 3:It just makes it easy you know pretty much makes the choices for you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, right yeah, I think one of the things I've admired the most about you all is like, and you, you can tell us your, your values of your businesses and they go across all your businesses right. But I've not seen very many people live it all, live it in action, like seeing y'all in action, whether it's in the community, whether it's together, whether it's how you interact with us, whether it shows up. It shows up all the time. So, like, tell us your values and I think that what you guys are sharing too is that in action. When you talk about the expansion of your family or getting through the hard times, those core values, I don't know that I've seen very.
Speaker 2:It's like y'all check mark like is it this, is it, this, is it this?
Speaker 4:I've never seen people like live it live it out loud like that well, well, thank you for that. I I mean so, for for us it's faith, family, love and service and thank you tamika.
Speaker 3:see service and thank you Tamika. But see, let me go back to these ladies right here. So when we talking to them, they come up with this stuff.
Speaker 5:They don't come up with it, we just put your we, we help craft it, it's yours, they craft it.
Speaker 3:So they know you intimately so faith family, love and service. Yeah, they put a name to it. Right and I thank you for that.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I honestly don't know it's. I don't know man.
Speaker 4:I think the answer could be deeper, if that makes sense. But like growing up, we've just always been close loyalty, yeah, so brother, sister, like I don't think there's any family member that would. That was just say otherwise. Like we just stay close, even like my sister lost you, like I just y'all just love on us. It's always a hug and I love you and so so.
Speaker 3:So you brought up sister-in-law, so my wife, she's from mississippi. When she me and her started dating she didn't understand why my family always hugged, why every time you get out the phone, or you just walked in the room or you leave. And I love you yeah she that that blew her mind so she did not understand that. Uh, my son's wife, it's the same thing she's like. Well, y'all say love you all the time and we don't, we don't and people don't understand that, but I, I guess we know it's a biblical value.
Speaker 3:First, and foremost and that, uh, I know for me, being lawyer to the streets and growing up, you know that was there, uh, but Family always been there and I don't know we treat friends, family, our clients. Listen, once we know you, if we're with you, we're with you and this is nothing else that can change that. So if we say you family, guess what's what it is we got you back and then it, then it becomes how can we serve?
Speaker 4:you right, because at the end it's not about us anymore it's, it's about you, it's about the collective. So now, how can we better serve you?
Speaker 3:so I don't, I don't I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. Just, it just comes natural. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2:It's who you are, you literally see it when we see we've met your family, absolutely undeniable. Same thing Like the things that you do as a family and how you move, admirable In business. Same thing Like we've seen you guys struggle over navigating relationships Like it is hard to get people. They will love you for life.
Speaker 4:I'm just telling the world If they love you it's going to be, real hard to make them unlove you Like you stuck For life right.
Speaker 2:Stuck and that is so rare. And you do that in business. You do it for the community, like you give till. It hurts, but clearly you're rewarded for it and so I just admire it like it. Just it shows up in to the point that you say you can't explain it, you just have to experience it.
Speaker 3:So if you have a chance to work with them if you listen to the podcast and you see the dynamic between them.
Speaker 2:You look at the work that they do um. Those core values are literally in action. You need a touch of it faith, family, love or service. Just tap into these two and you will get it. That's sweet, thank you. I don't unlove people at all, so yeah this is hard for me. I don't like talking like this Okay, so I'll keep it easy.
Speaker 3:I'll bring it back up.
Speaker 2:I'll bring it back up. I'll bring it back up. We won't get all emotional, but absolutely it's a love fest. I'll bring it back up. We won't get all emotional, but absolutely it's a love fest. What advice would you give to either a family that's trying to navigate being a better family, or a family that's trying to do business together, or just people trying to potentially gravitate more towards your values? How do people get like y'all?
Speaker 4:It's a special existence. I'm gonna say this first, this is a big one.
Speaker 3:It's gonna sound a little weird, but it's get out of your feeling yeah, especially it sounds weird especially, first of all, get out your feelings and hold you got to be accountable for your own actions, right, right, that's first and foremost if you, if you working with family or working with other people, right uh, serving other people, uh, accountability first plays a big part right uh, your intentions may be one way, but that person probably don't perceive your intentions to be that way, right?
Speaker 3:so if they feel a certain type of way, hey, my fault, right, right, okay, in in business with, with our clients, hey, if we, if we uh had a mishap or you know, hey, my fault, let's make this better, right? So that's first so, and and then the part of getting out your feelings is hey, I'm going to hold this mirror up to you, which nobody like having a mirror held up to them, right.
Speaker 3:But you have to be able to receive this out of love, right, and not don't get defensive with it, right, right. So you receive it out of love because I want you to hold a mirror to me.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:If I'm out of pocket too Right, hold a mirror to me, right? If I'm out of pocket too right. So, yeah, you have to get out your feelings. Uh. So, working in the in a family environment, first of all at home, it had to start at home, right? Uh, I think, uh, us as men black men as well uh, we need to get comfortable with leading right, and the women mature faster than we do. Uh. So we 20, they, they mine is in 30s, really so and the women have had a time in being in running the household and and having to make up for us as men are shortfalls, but as we grow and mature, we have to be willing to take that role and lead our house and be thankful for the women that we have in our life putting up with our mess. So that's another one. My final thing that makes it all go is God.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I was talking to someone a while back and they were saying oh, man, you're doing a great job, you know you, you man. I said man, you know what God get that credit. Oh well, no, well, you was up doing it and doing this. I was like, well, no, god, you know, allow me to do that. Oh, you got to take some of the credit. Well, let me tell you this man is a point of time to live and to die. Now one of us know we weren't gonna leave this earth. God did right. So if he allowed me to wake up this morning to do what he put a purpose in my heart to serve others. I can't take no credit for that right you know.
Speaker 3:So god get the glory, and he's the foundation what you I mean yes to all that.
Speaker 4:And then also for for me, it was again being able to take that leadership you have to. You have to, you have to want that, because if you're gonna, if if you're gonna just continue to just fight and bump head, you're not gonna grow, you know. So that that was that was for me. Like I have my father here who is not gonna do anything intentional to hurt me, the business whatever. So why not just say, okay, let's do it your way and just see where it goes?
Speaker 4:And then like, hey, well, I remember last time we did this, I, I remember this part you wanted to tweak it. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Let's do it, you know, and that's how it works and that's how I mesh it. So I think if anything as a family unit you want to go into something, or if you just want to improve, like your at home life, I think be willing to listen and lead with love first and leave with love first, and I think when you do those things, there's never a time where you will I don't know do anything that could hurt the other's feelings or put like mess something up. I don't know if I'm making sense, but that's kind of what I would say.
Speaker 4:Just I think it's your yeah your four values.
Speaker 5:What I hear you all always share live, see is that you all have individual commitments yes to those values. So you individually want to walk in love. You individually have your own faith you individually are of service, and so because you're committed to those things in a bigger way individually when you work together, you're grounded in that, and so then, you always all default back to that, even through the hard times that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:We just say it, and then they just put a bone you see that but that's your vision and that's your way.
Speaker 2:And so when we go back to if you have not watched part one, watch part one. But the authenticity with which you guys show up again, it's that individual authenticity. Brie is still Brie, antoine is still Antoine.
Speaker 2:Collectively, you are this thing but you still represent those same values and they carry all the way through your life, both in your home, in your business, out in the community, and it's admirable. This is a model for success, whether it's a family business or otherwise. You see big companies. They have their values hung up on the wall. If individuals don't connect to that individually, they're not going to perform.
Speaker 5:for the greater good.
Speaker 2:And I think you guys just exhibit that to the team.
Speaker 5:We've seen companies when they stray away from their values, and don't I mean you can go big companies. I worked for Washington Mutual, a big bank. Same thing I worked for you know. Washington Mutual, a big bank. Same thing. You can look at companies that are huge. When they stray away from what made them successful with those core values, they end up not staying the same. You know not stay. So you guys are living that and setting that example in this way that families can see. You don't always relate to big corporations.
Speaker 4:We can absolutely relate to what you all are doing and the example you all are setting, and that's the goal and, even as we continue to grow, that has to stay the same. If it doesn't. Somewhere along the line, something has tipped over, and it's not, you know.
Speaker 4:And so now we have to get back on course. Where did we fall short? And again that goes back to looking at ourselves first accountability course. Where do we fall short? And again that goes back to looking at ourselves first accountability we. We're going to take that on where do we stop?
Speaker 2:so I love that. Well, listen, I love y'all, we love y'all.
Speaker 5:This has been the journey into the journey, the journey into, the journey out see, and if y'all get the edited version, we'll remove the tissues.
Speaker 5:But no, we won't so if you had, so as closing yeah yes in in being that we got the opportunity to share. How do y'all one feel about sharing, but two, just, would you have anything that you would say, even as we're all like you, go work with this, any of any of your businesses. We, we know everybody should work with y'all y'all co-sign us like how would you share that somebody builds this kind of thing too I put god first put god first walk on the path, the narrow path, and then everything else would make sense.
Speaker 4:Everything, everybody and everything that is going to come along with that and supposed to be a part of that vision and that mission is gonna come put God first walk on the narrow path and don't be afraid to be yourself.
Speaker 3:right and I think that was one of my biggest struggles right To just find myself in this space. And once you find yourself in this space, man, it's a lot easier. So don't be afraid to be yourself. I do not open up and share with a lot of people At all, but that can be healing right to the right people.
Speaker 5:uh, because, yeah, these young ladies right here- I think, when you do that too, no connections like this are accident. Yeah, when you feel that you are walking in your purpose and when you feel that you were doing it. I feel like these kinds of relationships and business connections and family connections and everything Feel like they are divine.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And, antoine, let me just offer you this as we close. Your vulnerability Is healing for someone else, so to the extent that you all talk, about the journey out and helping people Along their journey. You being willing to open up. You spoke to black men. You spoke to fathers you spoke to business leaders and you don't have to do it all the time. Just sharing it in that space is going to open up for someone else. And so thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 4:Thank y'all. To close this, let me just say this for real you can't not. Everybody is meant to lead and that's okay. But attributes of a leader is one who listens, who loves and who can put their team first, and that on top, like if you follow somebody like that, you're going to the moon. Like listen, loves and put their team first. And I'm going to end it with that. I'm done Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, thank you, that has been the journey out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's been the journey out Now go back watch part one, if you haven't seen part one. This is part two.
Speaker 3:Next episode we will be back as hosts. This again. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 4:Okay, I love y'all, peace out, thank you.
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