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Lifestyle Strength
We discuss ideas, principles, and tactics that help people improve their position in life. With a background in fitness, Lucas strives to empower others by sharing amazing stories of challenge, transformation, and growth.
Lifestyle Strength
Dr. Ben Ozanne P2
Explore the secret to achieving and maintaining a balanced lifestyle with Ariel, an expert massage therapist, and Lucas, a fitness coach who has transformed lives in Northwest Arkansas. This episode of Lifestyle Strength promises to reveal practical strategies to stay motivated and accountable on your wellness journey. Pain can be a daunting motivator, but what happens once relief sets in? Ariel and Lucas share their professional insights on helping clients overcome the common tendency to abandon wellness routines as soon as they start feeling better. Learn how regular check-ins and understanding wellness as a continuous process can prevent progress from stalling.
Join us as Ariel and Lucas discuss the real-life stories of their clients, highlighting the importance of consistency in health practices. Discover how Ariel emphasizes the need for ongoing effort in maintaining health and well-being, cautioning against the all-too-common habit of halting routines prematurely. Lucas shares his unique approach to expressing concern when clients begin feeling better, ensuring they recognize the importance of sticking to their fitness commitments. Whether it's through massage therapy, chiropractic care, or strength training, this episode is packed with valuable advice on sustaining momentum on your health journey for lasting change.
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Welcome to Lifestyle Strength, your guide to mastering health and well-being in the real world.
Speaker 2:I'm Ariel, a massage therapist with over a decade of experience in holistic health, and I'm here with Lucas, a seasoned fitness coach, who's transformed the lives of hundreds in Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 1:We're here to share real stories and expert insights about embracing a healthy lifestyle while balancing the everyday hustle.
Speaker 2:Join us as we explore practical ways to achieve wellness and thrive amidst life's challenges.
Speaker 1:Let's dive in. There's a. You know I find it interesting. I know Ariel and I have talked about this before I'm in a unique situation because when people come to me, they know that they're going to have to work Like it's innate. When you come in to train and get stronger no-transcript and get stronger Like we're going to train together, but you know that there are going to be things that you have to do on your own. People kind of accept that, even though I still have to, like you know, work with them and motivate them and get them to do those things. Are there things that you do to get them from? You know, coming in for treatment, to, to, to go through the motions and those extra things and go actually book the appointment with Ariel, right, right, right, well, you know. So some of it is uh.
Speaker 3:I mean pain is a powerful motivator you know. So the, the avoidance of pain um is kind of how we start you know, so it's like all right, why are you coming to see us okay? If you want to achieve this then you need to do this in order to get there. Um so we try and start small and and then usually we're, we're also trying to keep things, the body moving forward.
Speaker 3:So having regular check-ins with people, uh, philip is my rehab director in the office too, so he, he does a good job with connecting people. And then him myself like we're how's stuff going at home?
Speaker 1:how you doing on your own?
Speaker 3:how often have you been doing it? Yeah, okay that accountability.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, yeah do you ever find because I know we, we are both in a well, we're all three in a field where we don't necessarily have people coming to us when they're feeling great um their weights fantastic their stress levels non-existent. You know, we there's always a problem?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't there's always a problem so we typically get clientele that come in with a problem. Now, sometimes it doesn't matter how much we outline it, whether you're doing it visually with x-rays, and whether you're talking it through with them. You're empowering them through knowledge about their body, whatever it it is, doesn't matter how many times you repeat showing them how to do a bicep curl. Um, my question to you is do you find because I know I find that, even though I'm saying hey to reach this goal that you want and to get you out of pain, the minute something feels a little better, the minute they're down a couple pounds, stop doing it? Whether it's because they're like oh, I can main, I can maintain it on my own, I don't need to work, I can just do this workout on my own. Or I don't need massage in Cairo because I'll use a foam roller.
Speaker 2:Or, oh, lord forbid, I hear this all the time. Oh, I just have my husband or my wife stand on my back and pop my back. Um, do you have that? And what does that look like to bring somebody back? Cause we talk so much about health, wellness and fitness, but there's stalls. People will get this idea in their mind. I don't need to continue.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah Well. So one of the things I usually like, as people are improving to, when they, when they're feeling better, I usually say now, I'm concerned. Ok, I like that and so and then what I bring up. I'm concerned because you're feeling better, and what do most people do when they feel better?
Speaker 3:They stop doing what it took to get to that point in the first place and helping them understand too, Like we've only been here for a couple of visits, or you know a month, and helping them understand too, like we've only been here for a couple of visits. Or you know a month and you have had 40 years before that that you've been unhealthy, your spine's been bad, and so that's why I'm concerned, because I don't want you to let the foot off the gas. We still have a lot of work to do, right, because, remember, our ultimate goal is not just that you feel better, but that you're functioning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so we can also bring back some of the objective measurements as well, Like all right.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're feeling better.
Speaker 3:But remember objectively we're trying to get here and by no means are we anywhere close to here.
Speaker 3:So, that usually helps. And then, too, what I encourage people is like all right, when are you going to stop exercising? Or when are you going to stop eating healthy? When are you going to stop brushing your teeth? Why do you brush your teeth every day? Again, health, when are you going to stop brushing your teeth? Why do you brush your teeth every day? Right right again. Uh, the dental example, people. I think that clicks with people, because it's like why are you brushing your teeth every day? Are you gonna get to the point that you have to stop? No, no, okay. Then when are you gonna have to stop taking care of your body?
Speaker 2:never, yeah, exactly, and it all depends on.
Speaker 3:Okay, what do you want as you get older? Do you want health and wellness and vitality?
Speaker 1:or do you want to?
Speaker 3:be sick on multiple meds and in the nursing home Right.
Speaker 2:And so even kind of helping, try to lay that out too is a powerful motivator.
Speaker 3:That's why I take care of my health and do things on a regular basis getting adjusted exercising eating healthy Again, because for me. I feel great. Yeah, I want to stay there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's your motivator it's I feel great. Yeah, I want to stay there. Yeah, right, that's your motivators. Like, hey, if I feel good, let's, let's keep that up. Yeah, the goal is maintenance.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, I think a lot of times we, we always try to shoot for this point that we're going to arrive, and just have it all figured out which will never happen.
Speaker 3:which will never happen, right, and it's like a harsh reality to accept. Yeah, absolutely it is, and it's like okay, so you're saying the rest of my life, yeah, but is it worth it? Yes, 100%, yeah, it's worth it.
Speaker 1:Well, I think, over time too, it's, you know, you say the rest of your life like it's going to be that hard. The goal is like like the idea of maintenance is like maintaining sounds a lot easier than just striving to figure this thing out. Do you want to have to strive over and over again because he kept falling off, or do you just want to be able to like oh, this is just part of my life, now you can roll with it.
Speaker 2:Well, and if you think we're using the dental like you're saying, if you point that out to them while you're going to brush your teeth to the end of your life, they're like, well, okay, because it doesn't get harder, right, but what happens when you stop brushing your teeth and you're not taking care of your dental hygiene? And now you have cavities and now you've got teeth pulled and root canals and uh, I just on that topic, my brother, growing up quite a bit older than me, his key things that he told me. He said Errol, take care of your teeth and don't ever touch a cigarette, because he had an addiction to cigarettes, but he had never taken care of his teeth and it's very expensive. But that's that example of like.
Speaker 2:A lot of times I know my clientele will fall off that bandwagon and then I'll come back and I always describe it as onion layers and we're taking off a layer and we're getting to the next layer. So my other question to you because I know a lot of people fall in this category is they say I went in to see him, I was in pain, I felt better for a day or two, and or maybe they didn't even feel better and they're like it got worse or something new popped up. Does that tend to happen? Because I know it happens in my field, where a lot of times we're just kind of exposing you to the next thing Because, like you said, once you're feeling good, that's when we got a problem. Because the reality is, a lot of times when we're pulling things away, we're exposing things and sometimes it can get a little worse, a little yucky, before it's gonna get better. Oh yeah, do you find that?
Speaker 3:yeah, usually on someone's first visit to, I'm prepping them like okay. So here's the three possibilities of today's visit one.
Speaker 2:You're gonna feel no change.
Speaker 3:That's the most likely because you've had X, y and Z for however long they come in.
Speaker 2:So most likely you're not going to feel any different.
Speaker 3:Second likely is you're going to feel sore or worse.
Speaker 3:So especially if we have trauma history for example, someone that comes in from a car accident and they didn't deal with it. Scar tissue formation and so we're going to be breaking down scar tissue and that creates an inflammatory response, and so then, with inflammation, you get pain right um, and so I'm usually prepping people especially like yeah you're going to be probably in more pain. You're going to be sore like you went to the gym and worked out for the first time in a very long time.
Speaker 2:Wow, wait, I use that. That's the reference I use in my practice. What is it, hey?
Speaker 1:come on, I use the same reference. Stop, oh geez, that's what you do. I tell people I was like the first two weeks of this are going to suck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, it's going to be hard, and then helping them, and I think what helps too, though, is laying out, okay, my expectations.
Speaker 2:I think you're going to feel better here.
Speaker 3:based off my experience, I think it's going to take you a couple weeks, or I think it's going to take you a month for you to actually start feeling better, Right. But yeah, most of the time, especially at the beginning, it's a slow going process. Right, I actually get jealous of some of those people that, like I adjust them. They get up and they're like holy crap, I feel like a million bucks.
Speaker 1:Wow, that never happened for me yeah
Speaker 3:and and you know they're they're more of the unique person where you know, like you probably had that happen too. Or you massage someone like I feel fantastic yes good for you.
Speaker 1:Now I'm concerned yes, yes, exactly because I'm not going to see you gratitude with that though like I imagine that was one of the best responses, like as many concerns that can arise from that, like I imagine, for you, that's really, it's fine, it's fun.
Speaker 3:You know you, we chiropractic miracles is what we call it. You know you could get those people that come in, they can't walk, you adjust them and and then they're walking out the door. That stuff's cool, wow. And those usually got more acute cases like right. I woke up and I couldn't move. They come in, they get adjusted and boom they're able to move again.
Speaker 1:Do you think that's hard Like, just obviously like? Social media, I'm sure, plays a role in what people's perspective perspective of what, what they can expect to feel like and they see stuff like that online. Do they come in with those expectations Like some do?
Speaker 3:some do, and we usually will ask them to, like you know, do you? How quickly do you expect to get this issue resolved, right like right off the bat, like one of the first?
Speaker 1:questions.
Speaker 3:We ask yeah, and so that helps us to know where they're at, and then that way we can, based off of their case, like, yeah, I expect that for you too, or no, I don't expect that for you.
Speaker 2:And then your reality check yeah, managing expectations, that also helps you as a chiropractor, so that you're having less negative uh reviews, essentially less negative experiences through your door. Yeah, because you're like, hey, whoa, whoa, let's manage these expectations right now, like I'm you know, I'm not god, I'm not gonna fix it one day, and I don't know, I don't know if you tell people this, but they're always like well, I just, I just thought that you know, we'd be able to resolve this quicker, and I'd be like oh so, how long has it been going on?
Speaker 2:Well, probably about 20 years. I said, okay, well, let's double that. And some of them come in and did I say well, it sounds like you're going to spend the rest of your retirement with me. That's really what I say I have. I have clients who you know they've seen me every other week for 10 years and they've budgeted me into their retirement plan. That, as they should right. That's the. The ideas. Is that health, wellness, if it is, that lifestyle doesn't end until you die.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for listening to today's episode. We want to invite you back next week as we continue the conversation and be sure to follow us on social media to get all of our content and clips and anything you might've missed. Again, thanks for listening and we'll see you next week.
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