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(Un)leashing: Breath, Movement, and Sound - Embracing Holistic Transformation with Gabriel Logan Braun
Discover the extraordinary healing potential of sound and breath with our captivating guest, Gabriel Logan Braun. Once a high school athlete, Gabriel found his path to wellness through the unexpected journey of yoga and music following a personal crisis. Gabriel's story is not just about overcoming challenges; it's about the profound transformation that can occur when we embrace our entire being—mind, body, emotions, and spirit. Join us as we explore his innovative events like Sonic Womb and Primal Fire, where breathwork, sound healing, and practices like Qigong become instruments for releasing negativity and nurturing vitality.
We dive into the concept of "issues in our tissues," where emotions are experienced physically before being intellectualized. Learn how focused breathing, sound healing, and mindful movement can help release trapped energy and promote healing. Gabriel shares insights on how integrating somatic practices with traditional life coaching can enhance personal growth, encouraging us to tap into our innate wisdom for emotional and spiritual well-being. This conversation is an invitation to embrace holistic approaches that can lead to profound personal transformation.
Experience the magic of movement and sound as we discuss its impact on mental health. Gabriel highlights how practices like ecstatic dance and sound improvisation can unlock healing and self-expression, offering a liberating contrast to conventional exercise routines. By celebrating community and collective experiences, we emphasize the significance of support systems in the journey toward wellness. Whether you're on a path to self-discovery or seeking new ways to heal, this episode holds the potential to inspire change and fulfillment. Share this journey with others and uncover the vibrant, life-affirming power of sound, breath, and movement.
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When you have sound that doesn't have a pattern or that's as identifiable, or there is no rhythm and it's out of time, it allows the person who's experiencing that to have to work on surrendering, letting go, not being in charge of the experience anymore.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to today's episode of man Uncaved. We are going to discuss somatic healing arts, using our breath and using sound to heal with a dear, dear, good friend of mine.
Speaker 3:Gabriel Logan Braun. So good to have you here, my man.
Speaker 1:So good to be here bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we finally made it happen. I know we've been talking about this for a couple of years now, so I'm glad that we can finally sit and really I want people to hear about the beautiful work you're doing. I had the pleasure. Well, first of all, we got introduced because you and I also work running groups at some treatment centers around LA and Malibu, and I got introduced to you and I went to one of your sonic womb baths I guess sound bath is that what you call it and I was just taken back just by the talent you have with music and stuff. So we're going to talk about that as we dive in. So, anyway, welcome, thank you. First of all, let's just know a little bit about you. How did you get into? I mean, you do a lot of other things, so we're going to be talking about all that too, but how did you get into working with sound and doing your healing work? But how did?
Speaker 1:you get into working with sound and doing your healing work. Yeah, so it was like my own kind of first big dark night of the soul. Experience is what really led me to what I do, and that was when I was still in high school and I was like a total jock and I was playing basketball and that was my main passion and I put all my eggs in one basket, so to speak. I had no plan B and then I basically had my ego crushed by, you know, other players. One summer I went to like this West Coast All-Star camp, going into my junior year of high school and I just realized like I just wasn't at the level that I needed to be and I thought I was in and so that was like. When I came back after that experience, it was like I didn't know who I was anymore because so much of my identity was wrapped in that. And then I went into a real like depression and I stopped.
Speaker 1:I started ditching school and then, um, a family friend a bit well, basically my parents, they, you know found out and they caught me and then I transferred into like a private school and a family friend, uh, suggested that I go to a yoga class, cause she thought it would be, you know, healing and therapeutic for me and knew that I was like really into, you know, movement and physical things like that. So I did, and it happened to be a bhakti yoga class with Govindas and Radha, who now she goes by Jacqueline, I think but this was like my first introduction and during the class they were doing like the physical asana and the poses and postures and the workout, workout experience, but it was very spiritual and that they included mantras, chanting, um of these you know, uh, sacred names of the divine that represent different archetypes, but there was a the musical aspect, uh, using it as a way to heal and almost in a way, transcend uh all of of the kind of stuck limiting patterns of the mind and the body in a way, and it just really transported me out of my kind of depressed state. And at the end of the class I went up to both of them and I was like how can I learn how to do this? And that's literally what started my journey and they led me to a teacher who, um, played the flute and did like flute lessons, and then it was like one thing led to the next over the course it still is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course you know. So. Yeah, that was when I was like about 16 17 and I'm 38 now.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so it's been quite a journey. Yeah, and yeah, and, and I love that the music does transport and the way that you put that together in your events, and we'll talk about that event. The one that I went to was Sonic Womb. I did feel transported through sound. It's almost like I was hovering over my body. It was a very I I guess transcendent type of experience using sound.
Speaker 1:Yeah I mean, I did actually uh, take a couple years of guitar lessons when I was like 11, okay, and I was in a band, so I did have that. And then when, when I was a kid, my mom used to take me to these you know, different world music and theatrical uh events at ucla, oh so, so I did have a lot of exposure to it, but it wasn't until I, like, really dove into yoga and spiritual practice that I.
Speaker 3:It became more of a way of seeing it too, for working with sound movement, breath qigong.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, can you talk a little bit about that stuff that you really have incorporated in kind of crafting, this little beautiful experience for people, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's a particular kind of container event that I've curated, called Primal Fire, and it's about cultivating your inner fire, your agni, breath, work and sound healing to kind of purge and move and clear energy within yourself that might be causing you to feel stagnant or depressed or stuck or negative energy, anything that you need to kind of like move through you that you feel can be like an obstacle or getting in the way of you being your most vital, alive, vibrant self.
Speaker 1:Many years ago I did my yoga teacher training and I was very focused on that, and then I've studied some Qigong, and Qigong is similar to Tai Chi and it essentially means the cultivation of your Qi, which is your life force, energy and also pronounced Qi there's a lot of ways to say it and so this is working with the breath, also with mindful movement, and when you learn how to do that and harness your chi, it's about finding a greater kind of balance within your nervous system and in your body, and we talk about often, like in recovery centers, how can you learn how to self-regulate right when you're dysregulated oftentimes and you're in that fight, flight, freeze response in the what we call the parasympathetic nervous system or, sorry, the sympathetic nervous system. We want to get into the parasympathetic right, so this is also your world too.
Speaker 3:That's right, yeah, so I definitely agree to that and that's a lot of the work that you do too. So not just sound, you work with the breath, you do somatic, uh work to release this energy that is stuck within the body and again, you know this is a language that you and I share if there's some trauma or just stuck, stuck stuff, accumulated collective stuff over the years, and so the breath really helps move that out, can you describe a little bit more maybe, about that energy and how you can get it unstuck from some of these practices? Totally?
Speaker 1:So I've actually heard you say this. I'm quoting you on this one, okay, which is we have our issues in our tissues, right? And so you don't think an emotion, you feel it first. It lives in the body and of course emotions can come from, you know, being triggered by what someone says to you or a thought you have, or a memory from the past or a trauma, right so? And yet it lives in the body.
Speaker 1:So, different ways that I would have people be able to move that energy or that emotion would be again through the breath, for example. So let's say I'm feeling really tight and really tense and stuck, and maybe there's a particular area in my body, like I feel like my heart's really heavy or I feel kind of locked and it's like hard to feel my heart. So I might have a client breathe more intensely around their heart, like in the back of their heart, open their chest up more heart, open their chest up more, and just through utilizing the breath alone, already that can start to free up some of that energy that feels more tense or stuck. Because you realize I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir when I'm talking to you, but for our audience, right, it's like when we breathe shallowly right, which most people do, we don't actually move energy that way. We kind of tend to be a bit more contracted or shut down, and so when we breathe more fully and into a specific area, it helps to free up and open that energy. So that would be one example.
Speaker 1:Through the breath, yeah, when I work with clients one-on-one, I do everything from people that want to learn sound healing and I teach them how to do that, live looping.
Speaker 1:So for people who are not familiar with that, it's like a whole art form where you're like a one-man band orchestra and you learn how to essentially record a live instrument, whether it be your voice or a handpan or a flute or anything, and then you overdub or you, you know, capture the sound so it repeats and you can create a whole song.
Speaker 1:And then, yeah, and then I also work with people who, again, maybe you do have some issues in your tissues and you feel like you do need to move that energy and so, utilizing the breath, utilizing sound healing, utilizing mindful movement, and then I also have clients sometimes where, you know, for a long time I used to do life coaching more, so kind of talking through things, working it out that way, helping people to create more structure in their lives and greater purpose, and getting more clarity and intention setting, and all of that. Yet now, because I incorporate the somatic healing work, I tend to integrate those practices, so it's not just talking, talking, talking the whole time. That way, I feel like people can actually accelerate their process of healing more quickly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. So this is something that I know that we share similar beliefs. It's like really integrating the whole being. You know the body, the mind, the emotions that you know. If it's spiritual, it could be spiritual for some people too but really looking at as the whole and all these parts of self, integrating all of those, so I I love that approach too. This is why I'm really excited about the stuff that you do. It's not just we're, not just this or this. Processing serves its purpose, and moving it somatically, energetically, definitely serves its purpose as well. Can you talk a little bit more about maybe the movement too, because this is something that I know that you do and I've actually and I'll have a couple links for everybody about you and how they can get in contact with you and kind of see the work, not just music, but just the wonderful stuff that you're doing out there. Can you talk a little bit more about the movement? I have a feeling that it kind of works with the same energy the body, obviously, because you're moving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. Well, there's an example that comes to mind, a really powerful one, in nature, in the wild, like when you think about a predator going for its prey, like a lion maybe chasing a gazelle or something, and the gazelle gets away, right, but the lion like pounced on it and almost got it, and so there's a certain trauma that you could say that gazelle experience and what you see in animals, wild animals, is that they will actually shake, like cathartically, they will shake and they will move through that traumatic experience of literally being caught to the predator, right, and then they'll just go about like as if almost nothing even happened. But for us humans, when we experience trauma, oftentimes we freeze right, I freeze, or we flee, or we do, whatever the thing is, and again it gets stored here. So with movement it's so powerful how you again can move energy through your body, through your whole system, and not just necessarily working with trauma, but like as a way to self-regulate, as a way to move more energy, as a way to wake yourself up every day. I had a client even recently who said I used to think about working out as something I just do for my physical body because I want to lose weight. I want to get strong, but now the way he sees it is for his mental health. I want to get strong, I want to, but now the way he sees it is for his mental health, and then, as a byproduct, he feels better and then his body looks better. You know he's in better shape and this and that, but so for me there's that direct correlation between our mental health and our physical body.
Speaker 1:We can get into movement and and not movement that is um, static or repetitive or I mean it has a place movement that is also more organic.
Speaker 1:You and I know, like when we go to something called ecstatic dance yeah, right, it's like for people who don't know, this is kind of like a free form type of flow and movement of dance where there's a dj and you know there's a little bit of guidance in the beginning, but mostly it's like you get to allow your body to move you, rather than a preconceived idea or choreography of how you're supposed to move or look right. So it's less about the presentation, it's more about how it feels and moving the energy naturally through your system, and when you do that, there's just something that is so healing and so powerful, just in that alone. So I would say, like that's a big part of where for me, when I, when I guide people into movement, there is some form and structure to begin, but then after that you kind of break through the form and structure and you just go into this more free flow because ultimately your body's going to teach you about yourself sure, the wisdom, the wisdom within the body.
Speaker 3:You know the body. I love the idea of, like body language. You know, yes, there we go. Body of wisdom you know, yeah, talk about that. So when you say you work with a client and you're kind of taking these approaches via, you know, breath and say movement, do you see where they finally let go, where you know maybe they're a little bit in their mind about their body so it's maybe a little restrictive or, you know, closed down, and then the shift. Can you talk a little bit about that and these wonderful things you've noticed?
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah. So what you're another way of saying. It is like when people are more self-conscious and even though in the world, in the world of like, mindfulness and, you know, self-development and all this, and it's like when we think about self-conscious, sometimes that can actually be a positive thing because you're more aware and conscious of that of self with a capital s. But, as most people know, self-conscious is like a negative connotation in terms of like I'm self-conscious, I'm thinking about what others are thinking of me, they're judging me or I'm even judging myself, and oftentimes we're the ones judging ourselves. Maybe these people actually they don't, they're not thinking anything. You know, know about us. So, in that regard, yeah, I have definitely noticed where people have these layers of self-consciousness or judgment about themselves, and it's almost like you can see it in their body, where they contract, where they're tight, where maybe they're even holding a certain position and they just don't want to let go.
Speaker 1:They're even holding a certain position and they just don't want to let go. It's like they don't want to let that guard down kind of thing. But what I've seen is when I work on somebody or work with someone in this way, it's like as an example, you know, I might have a client who, just to show you, demonstrated my own body, like they're doing this, like they're doing this, and if you look at my, the position of my shoulders, my shoulders are coming down. My back is kind of protecting my heart, so it kind of hunched. It's almost for those that can't see. It's kind of a hunched over. Right, your shoulders are forward, the back is kind of caved in.
Speaker 1:And what is that usually about? It's usually about I'm someone, probably, who has gone through my life and I've had to protect my heart because I've been breath and I want you to actually move your shoulders back, arch through your spine and open through your thoracic cage, open through your ribs, and breathe here and notice what comes up for you, what happens when you do that, and getting to a point where maybe someone starts to do that and all of a sudden they have tears streaming down their face. They don't even know why. Right, it's like you're in. You know, the story is my whole life I've been. I've had to protect my heart, but now I'm in a safe environment with Gabriel or right, and I don't need to do that.
Speaker 1:But something in me says no, no, I have to stay this way, because this is all I've ever known right and so when you can then see that opening happening and the realization that this person actually is in a safe environment, wow, it's like a complete 180 shift in their experience. And then I've seen somebody like this then over time their posture even right starts to change. Their chest becomes more open, they live life more from their heart and, you know, stepping forward versus dragging themselves along and always being in a shell kind of a thing, Right. So that would be an example.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, that's just a, that's just a beautiful image, that way you're explaining it, because I get that right. We just kind of wear it, the, the, you know the muscles have memory and kind of pulls us forward in a protective stance and I can understand it. You know again, as you're describing it, just the sense of an empowerment that can open up. Just by moving the shoulders back, heart out, you can grow a couple inches, you know, for those, just on that, because you're standing more ready and the word I love like kind of play on words. So what you had described is the self-conscious, not in a negative connotation you were just talking about that, but just envisioning that opening up, hard out, self-conscious, more of an embodiment, awareness of what's happening. Because we do, we completely lose connection right From the neck down. I think we're just, we're driven by our thoughts constantly and without the awareness that there's a lot more real estate down here, there's a lot more happening, a lot more information that is going on here features.
Speaker 1:Um, she says emotions another way of uh speaking to emotions are aliveness sensations and that emotions are a form of information. And aliveness sensations like we, whether we like the way we're feeling or not, it's like it's fucking, like uh, you know, like we feel our most alive and raw. It's like it's intense sometimes, but it's that sensation that we have. That is a form of information. But a lot of us, because we live in our heads or we haven't been given the tools to cope and digest this information, we end up becoming self-destructive or self-sabotaging ourselves and others in the process. So it's just a different kind of frame to see it or to see how we relate with these emotions.
Speaker 1:And I would even add onto that and I know you and I share some very similar perspective is that you know emotion, we think about E standing for energy, motion, movement. And if you want yourself to be healthy and vital and most alive, you have to allow those emotions to flow and to be expressed, versus depressed or pushed down or suppressed, right, it's like literally bringing them out, which is why the creative arts, especially like music and things like this, can be so and movement and dance can be so therapeutic beyond, you know cognition or talk therapy, which has its place too, right, but this is beyond just speaking with words, but speaking with the body, speaking with you, know the soul, in a way, and how it expresses creatively.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, it came to me when you were saying that. I mean thinking about sound music. I mean, the first sound is the heartbeat. Right, we're in the heartbeat and the sound and the beating of that, that drum kind of sound, which I know you do a lot of too, and you incorporate all these, you know, from rooted sounds to, you know, earth sounds to air sounds, um, to air sounds, all the elements, all the elements. Yeah, that's right, thinking of that in its own, its own right, cause that that was our language. It's like listening to the heartbeat, understanding that, and that was kind of our rhythm, as in the womb.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And and so, yeah, I would love to speak with to what you're saying right now, because and so, yeah, I would love to speak to what you're saying right now, because so, sonic Womb is one of the types of events that I also offer, and it's basically a version of a sound bath For those who maybe are newer to that. Essentially, you are being bathed and serenaded in sonic vibrations of different instruments, and that can vary from instruments called singing bowls to didgeridoo, to flutes, to guitar, to your voice. I mean, literally could be anything. There are certain instruments in particular that have a perhaps more healing frequency or resonance that can not only be heard but felt in the body. It's through those instruments that we're able to go, I think, deeper inside of our experience, just like a form of meditation, right when you're guided into that inner world or inner space within yourself, and in that space you begin to uncover and discover different aspects about yourself, again through sound and through vibration. So, yeah, and in particular, when we talk about the heartbeat and rhythm, and when you have a certain rhythm, your mind can identify a specific pattern like one, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. So then, when it can anticipate what's coming. It creates a feeling of safety, because you're not like, oh shit, what's next? What's going to happen, I don't know, like this is so then you can relax Right, can relax right.
Speaker 1:And there's also, on the contrary, something to be said about not using rhythm and being out of time, not always knowing what's going to happen next, because that can create, I think, a healthy form of disorientation, meaning, oh, I actually have to let go to the degree that I'm trying to hold on and control, which is a real thing for a lot of us, right? Especially in Western culture, where we can be more kind of trained to always trying to kind of micromanage, control, do things in this particular way, figure things out, overanalyze things right, versus certain cultures where it's like, no, just embrace the mystery, like don't try and figure everything out, you don't have to know everything right. Where in our culture, where it's, it's not that way oftentimes.
Speaker 1:So, when you have sound that doesn't have a pattern, or as uh, that's as identifiable, or there is no rhythm and it's out of time, it allows the person who's experiencing that to have to work on surrendering, letting go, not being in charge of the experience anymore, and even though that sometimes can be a little scary or off-putting and unsettling. There's value to that as well as there is to the predictable. You know rhythm in time, I know what's coming, I can anticipate it, so I like to actually work with both of those elements. There are a lot of people who do sound healings out there that don't work with rhythm, and it's just. You know, it is what it is, but I find that having both creates a greater range of experience in the person and can be more dynamic in that way.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I love what you're you're bringing in that actually described my experience at sonic womb to its entirety, because it was again, I love that the, the repetitive, we can go in there. And then the dissonance. And the dissonance is where most of us right, where it might be off the time or they're colliding in certain ways and and we have to find that part within ourself how much more can we let go? And you brought great words to that, because that's it right. We look for predictability, we love our certainty. It allows us to feel safe and in control and in power in our life, and there's needs for that, obviously.
Speaker 3:And then life isn't predictable and things aren't living in certainty at time, and so that rhythm makes you collide, and that was what was the word I loved to use was the dynamic of that in your and I've been to sound, you know healings and they're all. They all have their wonderful space, um, but the incorporation, that, what you incorporate, all these nice flows and sounds, um, and that was something different from soundbites that I have gone to, uh, that you really brought in. Now I have a question, cause I, I sit there and I'm in, you know, I'm in my meditative state and this has come to me. I'm like does he? Is this all on the fly? Sometimes Like I don't even know if this is like on the fly, or you know, how is this? How do you put all this together?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great question. So yeah, and for, of course, you know, for people who haven't experienced what I do yet, I'm again including many different instruments from all around the world. I'm looping many of these instruments, creating all these layers, using both rhythm, timing and then timelessness. You know, all of that freeform, flow and transitioning out of different, I call them soundscapes, so it's like washes and walls of sound and then singing on top of them. So all of that, so just to kind of paint a picture for people, right? So within that I would say it's Now, it is mostly improvised and there's where I have some idea of form and structure, of like there is a blueprint.
Speaker 1:You know, there is some architecture of sound and how I'm going to go from A to B, but then within the structure I can freeform. So to give a little bit more concrete example of what I mean by that, I can start, for example, with a flute which I'll create a drone like background effect which is timeless. There's no rhythm or anything going, that's in a particular key. I will start to create a rhythm and within that rhythm I'll then build layers with my voice, with the flute, with a bass kind of effect, and I'll create a whole nother experience for people, and then I'll fade that out, and then maybe I'll bring in a new instrument that's in the same key, or I'll transition into a completely different key or scale or something like this. And you know, I'm trying to keep it as simple as I can, really, really, you got to experience it.
Speaker 3:I mean, this is, I think, if you don't have a music understanding, you go there and you experience, uh, you know, sonic womb with gabriel. It is quite an amazing experience because you are floating in these. That's exactly it, this bath of sound, but it's just the, the, the sounds that you use from like, again, world tones, to like these. You use your voice, uh, to represent some type of low end bass. Um, it's, it's quite an amazing experience, it really is thanks, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I will say too, like also just paying homage to you know, all the different teachers that I've worked with, and even when I say teachers, I mean both you know people. One of the oldest wind instruments in the world and used in traditional ceremonies from that culture, and now it's all over the world. You'll even hear it in techno music. You know what I mean. It's used in all different kinds of ways, but there's something so primal and primordial and ancient. That's just from that instrument alone. Primordial and ancient, that's just from that instrument alone. Right, it's like people get to experience, or they even have the experience, that they've never been to australia or been exposed to that culture. Now they are, you know, it's like they're taking on this, this journey, this magic carpet ride to all these different cultures and lineages, right, totally. And and then even working with um people like borangi.
Speaker 1:So some of you may know who this, uh, amazing, you know, musician, sound sound engineer, sound healer. He's a lot of different things. His, his thing is more. He creates live music, usually to dance to. He's very much a healer, and he's brazilian and he's been doing this his whole life, really, and he's an incredible loop artist, and this is someone that I got to study with and train with for many years, and you know, and I've worked with, yeah many people from all around the world, and so there's a lineage that I also feel that I'm. It's like I'm bearing this torch and carrying it forward, and I've also learned a lot on my own, too. Any artist you maybe you emulate certain teachers or people that you work with for a time, and then you find your own style and your own voice right, yeah, absolutely, and you, yeah, you give it your own kind of signature to it as it relates to you.
Speaker 3:That didgeridoo is a powerful one, just the vibrations when you bring it close to the heart or areas in the person's body, and it's just a standalone and you can feel that pulsing vibration, moving. That in itself is so healing, and you do. You do you time travel, like in that time travel, but also you travel to different locations and different. I guess time travel would be it because you can meet, maybe different parts of your own self. But we'll talk about what you have coming up yeah, so, um, I do so first.
Speaker 1:I'll I'll start by saying that, um, yeah, when, when this is airing and live uh coming out, I would um encourage people to go on either my website, gabriel logan brauncom, which will probably be in the yeah, I'll have all that available yeah, um, as well, as, like, instagram is where I usually post events, but I, you know, I generally have sonic, womb and primal fire events.
Speaker 1:Um, and then I have some new music that will also be out Um, both, uh. There's a uh what's already out, called wildfire. It's an EP, four different songs, world music, dance music with my friend and creative partner, oral Ponick. This is really beautiful music. Then there's also going to be a new song coming out, tbd on the timing of it, with a new music video called Breaking Through the Static, and this is actually another kind of genre and rendition of what I do, where I'm going to be rapping and it's kind of like where Rage Against the Machine meets Beastie Boys a little bit. Oh, wow, Wow, a new venture. I like it, a new venture. I'm just, you know, I like to dip my feet in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why? Yeah, I love it. You know it's all healing. I love it.
Speaker 1:It's all healing and, yeah, and we'll also have the Wildfire Amapiano remix. Amapiano is a popular genre of music from Zimbabwe and South Africa, so that's going to be out as well when this airs.
Speaker 3:So you can look forward to that too. Is that like Spotify, where people yeah, Spotify, iTunes, all the platforms.
Speaker 3:Okay, perfect, so look out for those and then, yes, I'll have everything to get in contact with Gabriel. If you're looking for individual coaching, go to maybe one of his events and see what's going on with Wildfire Not Wildfire, you used to call it Wildfire, Primalfire, primalfire yeah, and Sonic Womb yeah, and he's always doing a lot of great things, so you can just stay posted. Follow him on Instagram. You know all those social media platforms. You have some stuff on YouTube if you want to just hear some of the sounds. I mean, this guy is talented when it comes to music.
Speaker 3:I was taking some lessons from you too. I mean, I want to take some more. We'll talk more about that another time, but it's such a pleasure to have you. Uh, I'm glad that we can finally make this happen. I want people to know about you and this beautiful work that you're doing. And again, if that sounds amazing to you, moving with your body, I mean you're connecting your breath. I love that self conscious um, through movement, through breath, through sound, gabriel walks, it, talks it. I I really enjoy watching the work that you do and how you also hold yourself energetically. You just feel it when you're around you. So, thank you, man, anything else you want to say here for anybody that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I just want to say, like, like, it's never too late to start.
Speaker 1:One of the biggest things on any personal growth journey is just making the choice, and also in recovery, too, like more than half the battle of getting sober is just choosing and wanting to get sober, and not only is it about sobriety, but ultimately, I think it's really just about health, wellness, healing, self-discovery, you know, bettering yourself as a human so that you can also help others, and something that I've also learned.
Speaker 1:I mean, we've talked a lot about self right, but so much of spirituality and healing is actually about we, is about community, is about each other, and part of why I'm so inspired to do what I do is to help bring people together, and you know I couldn't do what I'm doing without people like you, you know, and having a podcast like this and so, and working together in the recovery centers and like so, more ever, I feel this is a time that you know we're coming together, we need each other, and I'm just really inspired and feeling really grateful that you know, to know somebody like you, that you're doing this work too, and I appreciate you creating a platform for others like me as well to get our work out in the world. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Always, brother, always. Thank you so much. This was today's episode. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it. Somebody else might want to hear it and journey in the discovery, to their own recovery. And this might be what they were looking for so they can get their lives back together, so they can heal, so they can live life and into the greatest potential. And to live our life in the greatest potential, we need to come out of hiding.