Carrie Sheffield shares her story of how to overcome childhood challenges of abuse. A journalist and political contributor on many mainstream media outlets like FOX News, CNN, MSNBC and more, Carrie is now the accomplished author of Motorhome Prophecies. In this book, she describes her religious upbringing and how it has shaped who she has become today. The Programming Lions Podcast discuss many of her life experiences and how our society is unfortunately geared towards a web of welfare and victim mentality.
Video Podcast: https://youtu.be/CmVDqN4bZWQ
Motorhome Prophecies Book: https://a.co/d/aXXgUQb
Carrie Sheffield Website: https://carriesheffield.com/
00:00 Intro
01:54 Motorhome Prophecies Inspiration
03:18 No Victim Mentality
07:44 Welfare Web
10:17 Flipping the Script w/ Faith
13:01 Journalism Career
16:40 Division in the Country
20:35 Pop Culture
22:41 Politics
29:19 Intentional Adversity
33:45 Yo Mama
37:36 Closing Wisdom
Carrie Sheffield shares her story of how to overcome childhood challenges of abuse. A journalist and political contributor on many mainstream media outlets like FOX News, CNN, MSNBC and more, Carrie is now the accomplished author of Motorhome Prophecies. In this book, she describes her religious upbringing and how it has shaped who she has become today. The Programming Lions Podcast discuss many of her life experiences and how our society is unfortunately geared towards a web of welfare and victim mentality.
Video Podcast: https://youtu.be/CmVDqN4bZWQ
Motorhome Prophecies Book: https://a.co/d/aXXgUQb
Carrie Sheffield Website: https://carriesheffield.com/
00:00 Intro
01:54 Motorhome Prophecies Inspiration
03:18 No Victim Mentality
07:44 Welfare Web
10:17 Flipping the Script w/ Faith
13:01 Journalism Career
16:40 Division in the Country
20:35 Pop Culture
22:41 Politics
29:19 Intentional Adversity
33:45 Yo Mama
37:36 Closing Wisdom
Welcome to the Programming Lions podcast, where we are on a mission to be more productive humans in mind, body and spirit. And do we have a guest in store for you today? Carrie Sheffield has joined us. She has a decorated career as a journalist, broadcaster, and author. You have likely seen her as a contributor on every major media outlet, from Fox, CNN, MSNBC, Bill Maher, and more. She's also authored the book Motorhome Prophecies, where she tells her personal story of growing up with trauma and a difficult childhood and turning her mindset from victim into success. We have a lot to cover, so let's get into it.
Matt:Carrie, thanks so much for coming on the programming lines podcast. It's amazing to have you here. We've been following your career for a while and all the things that you've done and then most recently you wrote this book. Motorhome prophecies, we've seen you on some of the biggest stages in news broadcasting as a contributor and a commentator. We share a lot of the values and perspectives that you bring to the table. So we just wanted to say off the bat that we really appreciate what you do. And the voice that you've brought to media. Thank you. you, Matt. I appreciate that. And Will Max, great to connect with guys. It's just fun to people from my past come the future, into my current life. And for the audience, it's, there's an interesting connection here. My wife, and Carrie went to high school for a bit together and played in the same orchestra. Yeah, I remember what number because I I went 17 schools and I should figure the number, but I it was in Might've been school 12 around around there. That's wild. Let's get into things Motorhome Prophecies. What inspired you to write this and tell your story in such detail?
Boys:Yeah thanks for holding book I'll
Matt:hold
Boys:my
Matt:book up
Boys:too. We
Matt:got matching there. Yeah.
Boys:So yeah, the the book, I wrote it because I've had a lot of people tell me that my life like movie. Or my life like a book. I've had many people do that over the years when I chose to tell them what was going in I didn't really know Lauren, your wife, your mom very well. So she didn't really know what was going on. Most people in my life did not know what was going on because I was afraid and I was shame because I didn't understand what was going on some And then the things that I did understand, I wanted to hide. And finally, I got to the point when I saw especially what's happening in our right now with mental illness and people choosing to be a victim. I think a victim mentality keeps trapped in mental illness. unfortunately, I've had a lot illness in my family, but been able to overcome it in my own life, and I wanted to share how to do that, and the tools that worked for me. Right. That's amazing, and we appreciate you coming out with your story, and I think that's a great segue into one of the first questions that the boys had. In your book, you showcase a no victim mentality. Can you tell me more about that? Sure. Thanks, Max. Yeah. So the victim mentality, is this idea that the world is against me and I'm stuck and because of maybe because I'm a girl or because I'm a certain race or I'm disabled or whatever it is that the world is against me. And so everybody should always just feel bad for me. And I should always feel bad for myself. And I think that is really self defeating mentality. For me, I was a victim in a lot of ways, I had a lot of abuse my and my brothers. And so I a victim, but the question is, do I choose to remain in my mind as a a victim? Because you can be a victim in how people treat you. But then you choose how to define yourself. And so if you choose not to define yourself as a victim, you won't a victim. Your mind shift Will get you out of that mindset and then your role will change. And so I wrote the book because I wanted it to be a story of someone who was a victim, and honestly, there were times I'm very honest in the book. Sometimes I made choices that I regret because still thought of as a victim. What I found is that the more think that way, then you actually make worse choices. I really appreciate you bringing your story out because it seems like victim mentality is actually rising in terms of trends. And so when we have people like you telling powerful stories about overcoming it, it really means a lot. And hopefully you'll inspire a lot more people to, take the challenges in their life and just find a path through it. It's not easy, but like a lot of people do have difficulties in their lives. And you can either focus on that or you can focus on moving forward. And so I, for those reasons, I love your story. Thank you. And I think it's really important because I do agree with you that I think victim mentality is growing. And that's a choice at of the day. that's why I wrote book is say victim mentality is a choice.
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:You were raised in a very large family that had struggles. What makes a very strong family like united?
Boys:Yeah. So in the book, the title is called Prophecies because We large parts of my childhood living in a motor home with my seven biological siblings and my parents. So people motorhome, which if just go like on the weekend for camping or something, we were living in it. It's not very fun. And we also in sheds. So when I took test to go to college, the ACT exam, were living in a shed the Ozarks with no running water. And my brother just ahead of me was born when the didn't even have a motor home or a shed. He was born in a tent. So I've also lived in a
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:tent
Boys:When the family was with only six kids, a little smaller, but eight people versus 10 10 people. I say in the book though, that it doesn't matter if you're poor, what matters was that we were also abused. Love is the most important thing, I think, in a strong family, if you have love, you lift each other up and you can rise together as a family. But unfortunately, in our family, our dad was very abusive. And the thing is he had been abused when he was a boy. And unfortunately, unless you, cause dad had his victim mentality. And instead of defeating the mentality, he put it on us and he to down and he would always I your dad doesn't do this to you, but let's just say, if Matt would try to compete with you or tell your boys, Don't try that, or, what, like my dad told me once he said, okay, you'll never earn enough money to buy your own car. never do that. Wow. Yeah, it's defeating. That's Yeah. So, have family, even you're poor, said, but you're loving and encouraging and lifting each other up, most thing I think you can give a child and to your family. that's Beth a more more legacy. Speaking about how you said that, Your dad thought that you wouldn't have enough money to get a car. I heard that you grew up under a Mormon welfare system. What do you think about the government's welfare system? Yeah, we had both the Mormon welfare and government sometimes. So we used of them sometimes. We didn't do the welfare from the government as much as the one, in because my dad did not want to Let the government know what we we were doing because the government almost took us away. They have child services that if are being abused, government will you away. So when I was four years old, of the first memories I had was the government Came into our house was going to take me and my siblings away that there were were six of instead of eight. We had the other two later I was four but of my first memories the government said, we think your dad's abusing you, take you away. And my dad had us say, no, our dad's great. He's amazing. Don't take us away. then we left and we went 2000 miles away we escaped from the government. So he was always a little bit afraid to use the government welfare. So we used more of the church welfare more often, I think what's happening right now with the state of government welfare is that unfortunately they say it's supposed to be, what's called like a safety net. If you're
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:falling,
Boys:you need a net to catch you. That's what welfare is supposed to be. It's supposed to catch you when you fall, but unfortunately, it's become a spider web people get in it, it becomes a way of life. a net is to help you bounce up back on your feet, but a web gets you trapped you get stuck in it. So unfortunately, I think that's way system has been designed because people want people to be trapped. It's very sad actually creates more of a victim mentality, our government system. Yeah, I think that's a really, it's a great way of describing it in terms of the net and bouncing back versus just becoming dependent on it permanently. And then we're not really helping people. It's actually really sad as a parent, thinking of. How vulnerable kids are and for somebody to go through police coming in and taking them away from their parents and being programmed wow. How do you get over something like that? Yeah, It took me a a long time, and I went to a lot of therapy. I went to a a lot of prayer circles. And prayer meetings. And I also had of depression and lot of anxiety and just feeling like didn't want to be alive. But I do believe that God is real and I believe that God helped me the more I would pray him. him. The more I felt peace the more I say, it's like a script in a movie, if you have lines you're to say in script, that's in a lot of ways, what the parent, so like boys, your dad is like you you a script you to yourself that you don't know programming yourself subconsciously. So but your dad and mom, Lauren, they're giving you guys, I think positive and good scripts. So that growing up, if you go and and watch This show we're having in years, see what I mean, because you'll say, my dad and my mom gave me a good script in my head. And that script is become subconscious. when you're abused, have a script I am evil. I am bad. I don't deserve to live. I deserve bad things. And it's a bad script. No parents that to their kids. So the way that I got out of it is is I gave myself a new script. this is the that I believe God wants for us. I deserve good things. I deserve to be happy. deserve to have joy. I deserve to have peace in my life. I to have a positive environment. deserve to make money. I deserve to have a good job. I deserve to be loved. That's the new script. And so I had to to that head and it's been a been a miracle. That is a miracle. And not many people are self aware enough to realize that they have to reprogram their script. And so kudos to you for. and becoming incredibly successful. As a parent, and you mentioned like what we're doing with the kids, part of what we did with kicking off this podcast was getting the boys involved in a variety of different conversations and trying to hence the name of the podcast is called programming lions. We want to program strong, confident generation to come they got a lot coming at them with what we've set them up for, I think. Ultimately it's really important to me. And this is why I left the corporate world to focus on this because we really need to cultivate a strong next generation. People like you are really inspiring for us. Let's segue a little bit into journalism and politics where you spent a lot of your career. I wanted to ask you about after you finished college, you had a number of things that you've could have gone into and you described some of this in your book, but ultimately you chose to pursue journalism. What was the deciding factor that drove you towards journalism? Yeah, so I studied journalism in college, and I wrote my first article for a local newspaper I was 17, and I was in high school, I, they had this little section of the newspaper called Young Voices, where they let high school and students write, and I'd always liked writing, and I said, maybe this is I want to do for my major. And so by the time I graduated from college, I had five internships. It became, Really exciting for me. I think for journalism, you have a front row seat to history. Part of why I got internships is because dad, when I went to college, said, no my daughter. Cause he didn't want me to go. And he said, you go, you're be murdered if you leave. And he said, if you go, you can never home for Christmas and
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:you
Boys:never home for summer breaks during college. So I was alone and I took that as just hard, And I had my aunts and uncles nearby in college so they were really kind to let me come home for with them and things. But I took that rejection overall as an excuse to just work really hard. Work really hard. And so that's I got all these great internships is because I said my roommates over here are going to go home and cuddle their teddy bears back home. I'm going to an internship. So I ended up interning for big places like Newsweek magazine, back when they had a print product, they had 3 million print products, Every week, and I also interned for Robert Novak, was a really famous Washington Post columnist, and I had a for it. For journalism, you are shaping the way you think about things. Speaking of programming, you're programming. A lot of just thoughts and about policy and very important things for our society. So you, wait, so you never saw your mom and dad or your brothers or whatever ever again? I did eventually. But during college, I I wasn't allowed to. So eventually, I had other siblings who left. And cause I I was the first to leave. I had brothers, and were all still at home. And then I, when got be my year, my, of my attacked me. he was has schizophrenia. So I knew it it wasn't his fault, but I also I wasn't safe. so I I want to And since I I first to go. why you can't come back. So I didn't go home to see them until it was five years I was And by that point, I didn't sleep under their roof. I've not slept my parents roof since I I was 18. And 41 now. I did did go over a couple of times. But it go well as as things dad would say to me. So for a long time, I I didn't even, I didn't even want to go over there. Initially can't come here. then I was like I I don't go over there. But the book is about forgiveness though. So So eventually did forgive my dad. And He's also very sick now. Alzheimer's he's 86 years old. I want to ask you about just division a bit in the country because you have access to a lot of different kind of stages and different people, but it seems that our country is becoming more divided than it used to be. And I'm curious from your perspective what do you think is happening? And what can we do about it in terms of bringing more unity back into the system? There's a book. The title is New Earth. it's a guy Eckhart Tolle. And the concept it is what he calls primary secondary purpose life. he says, the purpose is to love each other. And that's actually the purpose why God created us. So you're first to love yourself in a healthy way, not a selfish way. So you love yourself, you love your family, and you love society. And that's the first purpose. And the second purpose, that's your work, that's your job, that's your politics, that's your business, that's secondary. And so often, when see workaholics, don't care about their family. For me, I was a workaholic, and I worked so hard that I didn't care about myself, and I ended up in the hospital I worked hard, and so I loving myself. let secondary purpose over the primary purpose, and think what's happening is the but in bigger in our culture, our politics. When people are yelling other and other, they're fighting about secondary purpose things. Yeah. And they need to be you know, Remembering who is this person? my brother. It's my sister. If you believe in like I do, is a child of God, just like me. And God loves them just as much as he loves me. doesn't love me more than them. he doesn't me less. And so if someone attacks me and tries put me down. Nope. God loves me just much as he loves you and vice versa. I'm not gonna get you down. Because we're equal. that's, I think problem of American society we've forgotten. one nation of the God. And if we start acting like that. treat each other more respect and love. Yeah That's a good way to look at it. I like that. On this podcast, we have covered very serious topics like crime abortion, borders, stuff like that. So, it seems like the current politics and things that have been made in the government are affecting this country a lot. How do you see all these policies and things? Thanks. I'm worried. I think for example have almost thirty 35 trillion in debt It's It's just a crazy number to about like, how do you even about that? Like how do like? Process that know, it's there's a great website the US debt clock. You go there I'm at it right now, 34, 681, 728, 681 billion, 728 billion, It's just, yeah, it's in and go, Yeah, it's incredible. It's It comes out to 266, 000 per taxpayer and can't do that, live that way. You guys
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:going to
Boys:this country us and I'm sorry, so we have to make cuts. So that's one issue. then we've got what's happening with national And that you guys are doing this podcast podcast in Kids, I think it's great. think it's really
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:that
Boys:guys are leaders at a young age. So I hope you keep it and don't discourage you. Thank you. Yeah, we won't. So what are the dangers of pop culture? Ooh pop culture so the word teenager is luxury. word or the concept being a teenager for the vast majority of human history wasn't a thing. were either a child or an adult, you weren't this kind of in between and I'm not saying that we push people to do things that they can't handle. But do think that part of why another we have in our culture is we're below replacement rate as as not having enough families with kids. You need at least 2. 1 kids per female in order for your, Species to not basically zero Yeah. And when you have this perpetual adolescence where wanting to commit or settle down or have families or have kids, then your culture just. Become soft and everyone is which is what's happening. are isolated and they're depressed. They're mentally ill obese. they're all on their phones. That's what America is becoming. And I pop culture. culture Feeds A lot of that machine far as this notion of perpetual adolescence. And again not saying shouldn't ever ever have fun, but lot pop culture messages that you you have to behave certain way. have look certain way. You to buy certain things and pop culture feeds that much. And the messages. pop culture. I don't think healthy a lot them Should we be thinking critically about the people this culture? I think we should. Amen to that. I like that. I like that a lot. You've been on a lot of news networks, right? Like you've been on Fox, CNN, there's probably thousands of other networks I don't know of. Are there any conversations that you've had with anyone? Oh, there've been been a lot. Any that you specifically remember? I that went recently viral. Was
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:conversation that I had on
Boys:CNN and it it was about what happening in in Florida with DEI and this idea of taxpayer money being used divide people. We were talking about dividing earlier. I believe, like I said, we're all children of God and that includes that made us of different races. So we pretend or, that are different. And you also shouldn't deny someone Being proud of their culture. So I think for black people, they should should their DNA tested if they want to understand more about their ancestry to find out where they're from, I've done that for me and I'm I'm Irish and I love celebrating St. Patrick's Day. So That doesn't, there's with celebrating Irish part Irish. I'm mostly British. Sheffield's very British. don't there's anything wrong if want to celebrate where you're from your ethnicity. And culture and your background. I think that's great. The problem that it's weaponized And making some groups feel like they should be ashamed of where they're from Or ashamed of they are or if you're a you should be ashamed because male And that you automatically just by being a a white male, are inherently a suppressor. That creates a of toxic interactions. That is of why we have such division in our society today. So I said I said the phrase black lives matter. The concept different from how the group that has running this organization. Indeed, they've been under investigation for for using money from donors for very extravagant things people who are the Lives Matter organization, I said, to it's different from from the idea saying, yes, black they matter. Of course. not something that should be hard to to say, but I do have a problem when you have a group whose founder says she's proud that someone her book to Mao's Little Little Red Book. I have a problem with her ideology. I have her race. I I said that on I was defending Ron DeSantis viral. a lot of of tweets, but I I got the of Ron DeSantis and they down Florida and I an event governor DeSantis. Oh, awesome. Nice. So in the end, it all worked out for you. Yep. worked out. So since you've been on all these big networks, how do you prepare for all of these? It's funny because I've been doing it for about 10 years now. And when first started, I a lot more in the sense of, I had so many things maybe typed out or out. And I that sometimes it's like really big, but a of these now. They topic very suddenly, but I I think the most important thing since you guys are building a show and I think guys about doing your follow ups, One I've learned is to listen. And I actually had some advice from I on Bill Maher show, the executive said best shows are when he said, I it to like building a So got their wood, I'm coming, bringing some wood and Matt has some wood he's bringing and Will's bringing his wood and Max brings, throwing onto bonfire. So we're all bringing our perspective and then it grows into bigger. But the key to to that is to So instead just coming with your paper and and saying, I want to do this, and this listening. That's get most. interesting even funny or, just. or just newsworthy exchanges. That's a good analogy in terms of the bonfire. I like that. And listening is I tell the boys we have two ears and one mouth for a reason. We shouldn't listen twice as much as we talk. And I imagine though, it's got to be a little bit nerve wracking. Cause you get on these shows like Bill Maher, a great example What are the possible topics? What are the derivatives of that topic that Mike had covered? How do I prepare it? All right. Over at the right stats. Cause the other person's going to throw out these stats and all of that, I can just imagine it's a lot of preparation in terms of what the core topic is and what all the like ancillary tangent topics might be, huh? Yeah especially when I'm outnumbered. on a very liberal network. Which is most of the time, it so yeah, I go I used to go, when I was York, used to just example, show a lot. And he might have or five against me on one. Yeah. But. This is of those things what you were earlier about taking a negative and it making positive. I, at at one point, after I I was
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:this for a while, told my dad,
Boys:You know how would at me? part what trained me go on TV and be screamed at. Because I learned how to be calm because I had to be because were screaming me and I had learn defend myself from you. So I I able to take, like the Bible says in story of Joseph, where Joseph something intended evil and use it good. I'm not saying that you should yell at the boys, definitely not saying that, but I think if you want to do some simulations
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:with debates and things
Boys:that, I
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:would
Boys:do that where I would.
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:Be watching live TV or prerecord or delay or whatever. And
Boys:I would
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:just hit mute
Boys:and
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:say, what would I say in
Boys:time?
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:In
Boys:moment, if I was sitting at that table, what did I say?
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:And then I would practice that way. I think we're going to do that. This is a great idea. Boys, I'm going to put this into our action plan. It'd also create some fun around it that we could create our own responses and perspective. I like the idea of practice debating. So you had, I would call it a forced adversity situation on you where you learned how to deal with, somebody yelling at you and then being calm and turning it around. With our kids, this is something I actually worry about a bit is. We don't have that much adversity in our life. We've got It's a great loving family and we have a lot of fun and we're in a good position financially so we try to sprinkle in intentional adversity into our lives. Okay. So it might be something as simple as jumping in a cold plunge, like something you absolutely don't want to do, if you got any other advice, I'll take it because we don't want our kids to be soft, but we also don't want them to go through what you went through. So it's a balance of how do we get them? Adversity without In the hood. I
Boys:think
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:yeah, because yeah,
Boys:two of
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:of my schools were in the hood and they were dangerous and I would not recommend that. Right. I think one way is to immerse yourself in volunteering.
Boys:Where you
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:can
Boys:Help people who are going through adversity that can help you understand your
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:mindset as far as having, cause I
Boys:think for a lot of people there are
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:are some
Boys:when I actually have to pray. I'm like, God, give me empathy for people with
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:no empathy.
Boys:That's
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:one thing coming through a very difficult childhood is I do have a very strong sense of empathy. I think It's not something that I would have chosen
Boys:terms of my childhood, but it's
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:one positive thing that come out of it.
Boys:And so in the same way that you can, go through either simulated adversity, Especially for boys, like going into intense sports
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:training.
Boys:Football or whatever, like that can create a really
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:strong sense of resiliency
Boys:strong mental, like visualization.
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:I think that's a good avenue as well.
Boys:Traveling abroad, putting yourself in
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:foreign environment
Boys:That can create a sense of.
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:Discomfort. So like always
Boys:discomforting yourself, like that's part of
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:of why I became a journalist. I think is
Boys:I was
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:always used to being in a different environment, Being air dropped in as the new girl all the time. As a journalist,
Boys:are, you get paid to do that When you go into the military, you go
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:to basic training. A lot of people, and even the more intensive ones to like seal training,
Boys:a lot of people drop out. They can't handle it. actually a a conversation with of mine was going through a divorce and it's very traumatizing for him. Divorce is of the top life traumas. But I said, look, you had a
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:a loving childhood. Like at least you had that,
Boys:Positive sense of self
EpX_-_Programming_Lions_w__Carrie_Sheffield-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_648ms-StreamYard:worth. And that, cause to me,
Boys:I struggled so much because they didn't have a a loving So if I had to choose the default between building a loving child to have self worth and I am inherently worthy versus abusing your child so like for me, I always felt like I had to prove my dad wrong. That's, Not at the end of the day good motivation because it ended pushing myself too hard and I ended in hospital Because I didn't feel worthy So it's all about finding that balance because you don't want to give everybody the participation trophy for doing nothing Right, but at the same time want know worthy or not I'm achieving So I hear you played violin in the orchestra with my mom. Do you still play violin? I do. Yes. I stopped playing for a while because I bad feelings about it. dad me to play it. But later on, after I became an adult, I still came to it. And yeah, your mom played first violin in our orchestra and I played second violin. So we she was playing the melody and I was playing the harmony. So I am actually going to play at my church on Mother's Day in two weeks. What's the hardest like song you've ever done? I think When I was in the high school with your mom, that was probably the peak of my technical skills. Cause I was playing the most around that time. And our teacher, Mosher, who I talk about in the book was motivating. I actually said that year, my freshman year, I actually said that year was the best year of my childhood was that year. then all downhill from there, And now Max is playing guitar. So mom is helping you with reading music and. Max is becoming a pretty good guitar player. He's going to, he's going to charm a lot of ladies as he gets older. I'm sure he's okay with that. No, not yet. With that we're gonna transition into a segment that we've never done before Carrie but since we saw in your book that when you lived And participated in some inner city schools you had to build a superpower around yo mama jokes And so we understand you've got a few yo mama jokes the boys have come up with their own And so we want to have a little bit of a like yo mama Smackdown. What do you think? Can we do that? Ding ding. I feel bad about this because I know your mom. It's fine. It's fine. She's not here. With that let's get going on the Yo Mama Smackdown. Yo mama's teeth are so yellow and when she smiles at traffic, it slows down. Wow, okay. Yo mama's so ugly that when she looked in the mirror, It said viewer discretion advised. Oh. Okay, your mama is so fat, that when she got on the scale It said, I need your weight, not your phone number. All right. Yo mama's so fat, not even Dora can explore her. That's a good one. OK, I like that. That's creative. I give you points for that one. Yo mama's so old, she knew Burger King when he was a prince. Ah, I like that. Nice.. Mama is fat. I took a picture of her last Christmas, and and it's still printing. Oh, look at the shock here. Look at the shock and awe. That was crazy. Holy smoke. Okay, that was a good one. All right. Yo mama is so fat her blood type is ragu. Ragu? Okay. Yo mama's so dumb she failed a survey. I actually think a lot of of people sue that too. They don't how to in the bubble. Your so fat and old that when God said, Let be He asked your mother to move out of the way. Oh my gosh. Max, I don't know. I don't think you guys understand. I need you guys to go harder here. Max. Alright, Jomama's so dumb that when the court said, Order in the court, she asked for a large fries and a shake. Oh Max. like that. I that. I'm gonna destroy this one. Okay. Your momma's so old, she has an autographed bible. Ooh. Okay. Your mom is so fat that her belly button gets home 15 minutes before she does. Oh my. That's just, okay. Wow. Okay. Alright. Your mama Alright. Your mama's so ugly when she entered an ugly contest. They said sorry, no professionals. Ooh, snaps. That's a good one. Yo mama's so fat, when she jumped in the ocean, The wolves say, we are family, Even though you're fatter than me. You know what? I think that wins because they sang and they did a little dance. All right. That was amazing. This is first in programming lines history. Yo mama standoff. Not everybody is ready for that. So thanks Carrie for entertaining the yo mama jokes. That was awesome. Any final words of advice for our audience or these two young lads that you could leave us with? I think you guys doing wonderful and it's so needed because there's unfortunately, these lessons that teaching and the values aren't going to be taught in schools. And in fact, the opposite. So I just want to encourage you guys doing what you're doing, especially as boys, think boys are under attack our culture that something with you. If a boy, you're just being a boy and so keeping you keeping who God made you to be. And think what you're doing is really awesome. Thank you. Thank you. That's great encouragement. So with that, why don't we call it a wrap and I want to leave a couple of. Things in the description. So Carrie's book, Motorhome Prophecies is just out. It's a bestseller. Check it out. I'll leave a link to it in the description and Carrie, we wish you, there it is, and we wish you all luck on your continued tour and the rest of your career. We'll stay in touch. I'm sure. So thanks again for coming on and best of luck to you. Thank you. Thanks for coming on guys. Okay. Thanks for having me.
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