Programming Lions

Ep.82 The Harvard Right: Campus Conservatism w/ Michael Oved

• Matt Morstad • Episode 82

Share episode

Michael Oved, President Emeritus of the Harvard Republican Club, shares his insights and the importance of fostering conservative ideals at a prodominately liberal, ivy league school. Programming Lions and he discuss emphasizing the value of open debate, free speech and principled leadership. 


Links:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/30in30pod/

Podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/30-years-in-30-minutes/id1723606632


TIMELINE

00:00 Intro

03:16 Youth in civics

03:31 Campus vibes

07:40 Graduation

08:10 Young Republicans 

10:52 Rep misconception

12:10 Future of colleges

16:20 Career aspirations

18:18 30 in 30 podcast

20:31 Rapid Fire

Welcome to the Programming Lions podcast. We have Michael Oved with us. He's a senior at Harvard University, president of the Republicans Club there, which has seen tremendous growth under his leadership. He's also seen a bit of drama the last couple of years. Nonetheless, we are going to get into culture, politics, Gen Z, their shift, all of that coming at you. Yeah.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Michael, welcome to the Programming Alliance podcast. Thanks for taking time out of your busy school schedule so without further ado, let's get into it. You have grown the Harvard Republican Club to over 800 members. Why has it grown so much?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Thank you all for having me. And it really is so refreshing to see two young boys so involved and so willing to be involved in the, in the state of affairs of the United States of America, so interested and passionate about advancing and furthering the mission and goal of the United States. So, so really credit to you guys and Matt credit to you as well for, for including them and involving them. It's super important to your question about how we grew the Harvard Republican Club. It's probably helpful for me to start with a bit of background about. Where the Harvard Republican Club was a year ago and where it was after 2016. So 2016 came, president Trump won the nomination and it was the first time that the Harvard Republican Club refused to endorse a Republican presidential candidate. And we were founded in the late 1800s. And so for an organization of our stature, it was the first time ever that we didn't endorse the Republican candidate for president of the United States. And that was pretty significant. And so there was a lot of media attention on the organization. I kind of took office as president and what happened was, is, is I said, look, you know, we've had around eight years of. Very little action happening within the club itself. So we need to really turn that around. And so the approach that I took, and it turned out to be a winning approach was to take very much of a big tent approach, right? You know, where, obviously where my alliances on my, on my sleeve. There, there was no doubt about it that I support a president Trump. We actually issued an eight page long endorsement of president Trump in the summer, but I think what really succeeded was taking a big tent approach. And so bringing in speakers, really high profile speakers that appealed to varying perspectives and opinions within the party. And that proved to be tremendously successful. And I think, and I'll end with this. I'm sure you guys have a bunch of more questions that you've actually seen that trend happening in the national sphere as well, where the president has actually included so many differing opinions and perspectives within his own cabinet. Take RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard, for example, those are non traditional Republicans. And so it truly is a winning strategy for Republicans to include people with differing opinions and perspectives within the overarching umbrella that is the Republican party. That is the exact approach that I took. That's the approach that we took in the Harvard Republican club. And, and like I said, it was a winning approach.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah, interesting that, so in 2016, the Harvard Republican Club did not endorse Trump, but in 2024, they did.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Yes.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Let's see in 2016 you supported Donald Trump obviously you couldn't vote at that time You were probably about Will's age, I

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

2016, I was born in 2003. So 2016, I was close to, yeah, I was Bill's age.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah, okay, okay, so it's okay to be interested in politics at 13 do

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

to be interested and involved in the civic process as young as you can get.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Kind of a two part question. So I'm wondering, cause typically I think of college campuses as pretty crazy. And liberal. Especially after I see Charlie Kirk videos of him debating people there. So, I'm wondering, one, if that's pretty true, if college campuses are pretty liberal, and, two, what is the atmosphere like when you are probably a pretty well known Republican there?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I mean, that's certainly a really, really good question. And I think it's safe to say that a large part of campus of college campuses and I can speak about Harvard, a large part of Harvard is pretty liberal. The Harvard Crimson, which is our newspaper, they do a report every year about the incoming freshman class. And I think the numbers were over 65 percent of campus identifies as liberal or liberal. Heavily liberal of the most recent class. I think diversity of thought is extremely important. Yeah. I mean, what it's like to be around that is, and I think it's super important to stand up for what you believe in because when you do, people are going to respect you. And so, On campus, I'm certainly the most well known, prominent Republican, I would say, by virtue of the fact that I just finished my tenure as president of the Harvard Republican Club, so I was there for a year. And that was a pretty tumultuous year in terms of the, the Nationwide political scene. And we issued our endorsement, which obviously a lot of people on campus didn't really like. And I was quoted in the media quite a bit whether or not that was the Harvard publication that I told you about before the Harvard Crimson, or whether it was more national outlets, I was quoted pretty often. People knew I was Republican. And I think when students come to campus, a lot of times, like myself, I came to campus, I was scared to say it was a Republican, the only reason I say that is because I want people to know that it is okay to say you're a Republican and if anything, I would encourage you to say you're a Republican when you get to campus. Because, more than anything, you need to look at yourself in the mirror. So you need to stand true for what you believe in,

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

It's got to be challenging though on a very liberal campus people are very outspoken and they're willing to confront people that they don't agree with. And so you must have faced a lot of that. You were referenced a lot in the Harvard Crimson and other media and people probably approaching you on campus. What was that like? How did you deal with some of the backlash

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

yeah, I mean, if I actually think that being a conservative on campus is more rewarding than it is being liberal, because if you're conservative, your ideas and views are constantly challenged and you're forced to constantly think about your ideas over and over again. So you perfect the argument. I think that's the key to being conservative on campus and being open about it. You need to make sure you know what you are talking about. Because inevitably someone is going to come up to you and ask you, why do you believe what you believe? And you are the face to whoever it is you're talking to, you are the face of the Republican party. So whether or not you're president of the Republican club or not, you are the face of the Republican party to whoever you're talking about, just because being a Republican, you are in the minority. And a lot of people on campus have just not met a Republican before, or have not engaged on a meaningful level with a lot of Republicans. And so for me, I made sure and I always make sure that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the issues. Because people come up to me all the time and say, Michael, how could you believe this when this is And the response to that is, hey, look, let's have a respectful conversation and talk about it. And when you do that, when you have a respectful conversation, when you sit down with them and engage with the issues People have a lot of respect for you, but more they have respect for your party. And now they're willing to look at your party and your views and your ideals in a different light because what they see is the media telling them Republicans are racist, Republicans are xen and that's just not true. And so you need to be, if you're on college campus and you're a Republican, you need to be the face for the Republican Party and show them that Republicans care about ideas and ideals and we know what we're talking about.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah. I like that. It's almost like a forcing function to be better equipped on the issues if you're Republican on campus. So I think that makes a lot of sense. So you were at the helm of the club for the last year. Wild year, obviously. Campaigns and everything. The Claudine Gay situation. Wild yeah. Protests people withholding their normal contributions to the endowment program. So, anyway, you must have seen a lot. And and now you're handing over the reins to somebody new. You're going to be graduating this year, is

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

yes, I'm graduating in a couple of months. We've officially handed over the reins, I think it was maybe a month ago.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

What are you graduating for?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I'm graduating in economics. I have a secondary in history and a citation in Spanish.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Okay. Can you,

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

lived in Barcelona for, for around five, six months. I worked at a really great startup over there

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

How do you think younger republicans today differ from the traditional older generations in this party?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

That's a good question. I think, like anything else, there's a lot of similarities and differences. I actually serve on the RNC's youth advisory committee. So, a lot of what we do is focused on how can we further engage the youth just because, you know, as time progresses, the youth become an ever increasing percent of the voting populace. It's important to really focus and tailor our messages to further engage the youth. And I think what we've seen in this election, Donald Trump actually won young men

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Overwhelmingly.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

was it overwhelmingly? I mean, I know he was young men.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah, compared to maybe historical numbers,

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

and that's what I'm saying. I think, I think like the winning strategy for that, when you're appealing to, to young people, old people, you really need to, to approach these types of things, elections from a big tent. Perspective, right? Everyone knows what Donald Trump believes in, but when you see he's willing to include people who don't necessarily agree with him in his cabinet, he's actually listening to what other people think that's a really valuable trait. And I think like it really served him well to include in his inner circle, so many people who don't really agree with him 100 percent because that's what Americans want us. Americans want to see a candidate. Who is going to listen to those around him, who is going to take all the opinions and make the best educated decision. And we've seen it from people who are close to Trump, that he's done that in his first term. But I think in his second term, he's going to do that to a much larger extent, just given the people that he's opted to surround himself with. And, and, you know, with the Harvard Republican club, we've chosen to do the same thing. Like I said, I'm a supporter of Donald Trump a hundred percent,

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

I agree. That's something I've really actually appreciated. And of course, we didn't know that going into this year that he would be pulling in RFK I was hoping for example, Tulsi Gabbard, I think, is a great addition into his, you know, close circle. And then Elon Musk got very involved. And so, he's got a powerhouse In his corner, So I'm wondering what your take is on bipartisan politics.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Bipartisan politics is extremely important. If you want to have lasting and meaningful change, you need to enact that change in a bipartisan way. Our country is extremely divided right now. Yeah, I mean, look, even as we speak, I actually just got a notification that the Lake and Riley Act defeated the filibuster. So I think even looking at things like that, when we have the bipartisanship, that is having Republicans and Democrats come together in support of such legislation, those are the types of legislation that, that we need to pass more of more bipartisan efforts.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yep. 100%. So, if you could change one common misconception about Republicans, what would it be?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

That's a good question.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

That we're racist? Okay.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I mean, that, I don't know if that's like a, I mean,

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

That's not a misconception, that's just false.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

That's just

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

you're racist because you voted for Donald Trump. That's right.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Truth is, is people who say that just don't know what they're talking about because you present them with the evidence and you say, okay, well, what do you mean? And then they obviously go into the, the good people on both sides. And then you ask them, well, did you listen to the entirety of the clip where president Trump explicitly condemned white supremacists? And so just unfortunate to see that, that the direction of the media quite literally selecting parts of speeches that Donald Trump has made. Even if it's out of context and sometimes even because it's out of context in order to, to further peddle those ideas. And so that's something that certainly needs, it needs to be stopped. And we're seeing, we're seeing efforts by meta. We're seeing efforts by X as well to promote greater freedom of speech and the ability of all Americans to arrive at information and news in a, an unfiltered manner, which I think is important,

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

hmm. Yep. I hear that college is like not what it used to be. So, what would you say to the youth, like us, right, you know, Yeah. on the future of colleges?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

look, I think we go to colleges, right? There's no doubt about it. That colleges, college campuses in Harvard, especially are predominantly liberal. But that that's even more of a reason why.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

hmm.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

We need conservatives to get to campuses. We get these institutions of higher education are so important. That is where the future of America or a lot of the future of America is educated. That's where they create important and crucial experiences that will guide them for the rest of their lives. And so if we want to truly preserve. The future of America and make sure that the future of America is not coming out of colleges being indoctrinated by some of these very liberal professors who actually inject D. E. I. And liberal ideas into their education. We need to make sure that we are not giving up on these important institutions. So my advice to anyone out there is go to liberal institutions. More liberal it is, the better it is for you to go there. We cannot give up on those institutions. I actually had Kevin Roberts, who's the president of the heritage foundation. I didn't come to speak at Harvard a couple of months back. And he said the same thing. He said, institutions are far too important to give up on, especially higher education. My advice to you guys is go to college, go to Harvard.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

It's a really good point because the more Republicans can get on campus, they can have that civil debate and dialogue over issues maybe push back against some of these ideas, whether it's radical liberal ideas or DEI. On campus where they just don't really belong and get back to roots I have heard from a number of students in college that if they don't agree with their professor on ideas and They do try to challenge it that it affects their grade and then of course that affects outcomes in terms of job opportunities and where they land on that so the pressure is high to sort of comply with the indoctrination elements of Liberal professors, how do you think? One can combat that Mm

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

study economics. I truly in the economics department have not had those experiences. Some of the greatest classes I've taken were with professors who I've very much disagreed on about policy. Take for example I took a class with Jason Furman and David Labus and Jason Furman was the chair of the council of economic advisors under president Obama. I took his class and I went to his office hours pretty much every week for an entire year. And I mean, he's obviously a Democrat. I am obviously a Republican. We disagreed on a lot of policy, but I'm actually extremely close with him now and we meet once a week to discuss my thesis, but we always have respectful and honest dialogue about it. And so I think I certainly have not had that experience in the economics department at Harvard. And I think they do a great job of of actually. for and including diverse opinions and perspectives among the student body. And, and my experience has been that the liberal professors that I've had have been very, very open and welcome and willing to engage with conservative ideals. And, and actually, you know, I took class with Larry Summers, who's the former treasury secretary.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Mm hmm. Mm

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

And, and whenever he said something that I disagree with in class, he would call on me and he would welcome and encourage me. Jeff Liebman, he coached out a class with Jeff Liebman, prominent Democrat. They designed that class in such a phenomenal way, whereby they would have a topic, one professor would argue one stance, the other professor would argue another stance. That way students got all of the opinions on the topic, which I think is a genius way to go about teaching

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

I love that. That is smart. Yeah, we're talking about doing a similar segment on our show In fact, we're gonna test it out with a live session later tonight. But anyway but Yeah, almost like putting yourself in the situation where you have to defend the side that maybe you don't actually agree with but it Helps Get you more educated on both sides. That's actually really great to hear I'm happy to hear that that you've had a good experience and you haven't run into these things Particularly as an economics major now you're soon going to be out of college, and you're now going to be in the real world, right? That's cool. The real world. Anyway, what's next for you, and what are some possible careers that you might want?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Yeah. That's a great question. I mean, first I actually recently started a podcast called 30 years in 30 minutes. It's a business leadership podcast where I interview really successful entrepreneurs, leaders, business thought leaders. And so I've had on the podcast, people like the founder of Zillow, the founder of TripAdvisor, the founder of Kayak. So really prominent people. I'm very business oriented. And so I think much like you guys having a podcast, a business podcast for me is an opportunity to learn from some really successful and cool people. And so I'm hoping to continue that, but beyond that, I'm actually, you know, when I graduate in may, I would love to work in the white house. As you guys know, I'm studying economics, so we'd love to work at the national economic council or really anything else within the white house that would allow me to, to do some sort of. Economics facing

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah. Analysis and

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

some, something of the sorts. Yeah.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Doge. Maybe Doge. Maybe you should be a Doge er. That would

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

doge would be really, really cool. Doge would be awesome.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Ah, that would be sick. Dad, you applied for a job for Doge? I did. I applied on X for Doge. Just like I, I have a background in sort of corporate operations and so forth, and I just want help. I think it's like a rare window of opportunity where we're gonna go in and try to really clean up government. And I, I just want to be, I just wanna be part of it. But I imagine they're looking for a lot of people that have backgrounds in economics, probably law, because all these things will still have to go through Congress to get remedied. Nonetheless, we could use some bright minds in Doge, so maybe, you know, get your application in there. And so that that sounds fun, but you're probably going through the process of applying and, and getting ready and interviewing and all of that over the next few months, right?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Yep.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Okay, do you have anything special planned, like a, like a trip after graduation?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I don't have any plans just yet. So it really all depends on what post graduation looks like for me, but still figuring it all out. Very open to anything and everything.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

So to wrap up, this is going to be the final question. I heard that you had a podcast called 30 years and 30 minutes, right?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I love talking about the podcast. I'll take any questions, but

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Well, how many episodes of the podcast do you have out at this point?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

so we have around 14 episodes out much like you guys. I record a bit in advance and then I, I release them. So 14 episodes guest list is actually awesome. And it took quite some time to build, but it's I mean, you guys have this experience too. It's really rewarding to be able to speak to people who come from all sorts of walks of life and just ask them what their, what their advice is. And so, you know, have the founder of next door, the founder of kayak Shazam.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Yeah.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

yeah. So

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

the movie? What? Wait, what's Shazam?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

it's this app. I mean, I think Apple acquired it, so I don't know if it's an app like it was before, but it's this app where you can click the app and it tells you what song is playing.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Mhmm. It listens to it listens to background and then tells you what song it's playing. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's pretty handy. I have it on my phone, guys. So if you're like, hey, what song is that? Oh, I don't know what song that is. You hit Shazam, and then it'll tell you, and then you can add it to your playlist.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

And I mean, interestingly, so the podcast is not a political podcast. So if I do bring on politicians, I make sure to bring on a Democrat and a Republican and release those episodes together. So for example, I had the governor of Massachusetts on, but I also had the mayor of Indianapolis. So one's a Republican, one's a Democrat. So bring both of them together. I think it's important to be bipartisan, especially in that, but we had founder of teach for America unions, core hospitality group, pliables, founder of TripAdvisor, SparkNotes, Moderna, even. And then, yeah, so Eventsbrite, Zillow, Editor in Chief of Time Magazine, Editor in Chief of Sports Illustrated, and the founder of Insomnia Cookie. So, a bunch of really, really cool people have come on, and it's been really rewarding to have those conversations, and hear a lot of the feedback that comes with it.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

That's pretty cool. Wow, that is cool. You've had some big guests. Well, we'll drop a link to your podcast in the description so people can go check

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Oh, awesome.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

of those I listened to I listened to the one with the mayor of Massachusetts. And I want to listen to a couple more now that you've told me some of the guests you've had on. So I'll definitely check it out. Let's do this. We are going to wrap it up. We're going to get into a section right now, Michael, that is called Rapid Fire. Rapid Fire! And it's legendary. Max loves this section. Yeah! Alright, so Rapid Fire, the rules are you have to answer it as fast as possible with no explaining.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Okay.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Would you rather fight a 1, 000 pound duck or 1, 001 pound ducks?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

001 pound ducks.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Okay, what is the coolest invention in your lifetime? Oh,

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

or artificial intelligence.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Would you rather die to a great white shark or a flaming hot volcano? If you had a superpower, what would it be?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Mind reading.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Excluding us, like us three here, right? Who is your idol?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I would say my parents.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Nice. So last one. Have you ever been stuck in a bathroom stall without toilet paper?

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

I don't think I have, no, luckily not.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Wow. I haven't been like three times.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Yeah.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Max is traumatized. It's happened to him way too many times. at him. Look at him. He's so depressed right now. He's still, he's still working through it. He's, he's perfected the waddle though.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Oh my god.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Right, Max? Yeah. Wow. Okay, that concludes Rapid Fire. Thank you for entertaining that section, Michael. Thanks for coming on our show. We appreciate having you on. We appreciate what you're doing at Harvard. Resurgence of Republican and conservative ideals in that educational institution is incredible and we wish you all luck on your graduation, your career and your podcast. And so we'll link those things in below and yeah, we wish you the best of luck.

MICHEAL_OVED-Michael_Oved-webcam-00h_00m_00s_346ms-StreamYard:

Thank you guys for having me. This was, this was a ton of fun.

MICHEAL_OVED-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_336ms-StreamYard:

Alright.