Programming Lions

Ep.103 Propoganda, Power, & Israel w/ Fabian Garcia

• Matt Morstad • Episode 103

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In this engaging episode of the Programming Lions podcast, host Fabian Garcia shares his journey from growing up with the impactful stories of his grandmother who fled communist Cuba, to becoming a political commentator and social media influencer. Known for his on-the-ground interviews at political rallies and recent travels to Israel and Gaza, Fabian offers a firsthand account of the geopolitical climate in these regions. He discusses the realities behind media portrayals, the deep roots of communism and Marxism in today's society, and the significant cultural and political influence exerted by various groups globally. Fabian also touches on the rise of anti-Jewish rhetoric, the challenges of maintaining conservative values, and offers practical advice for conservative youth. Tune in to hear his thoughts on how to identify genuine voices in the conservative movement and maintain individual freedoms amidst growing ideological battles.


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00:00 Intro

00:38 Fabian's Motivation

02:21 On the Ground in Israel

06:09 Food Distribution in Gaza

08:18 Rise of Anti-Jewish Sentiment

12:02 Political Opportunism

17:43 Money and Politics

20:04 Israel's Right to Defend

21:42 Jewish Identity

23:11 Marxism

24:07 Critique of Communism

27:58 Historical Ideologies

30:04 Leftist Policies

32:40 Advice for Youth

34:55 Conservative Grifters

38:12 Conclusion

Welcome to the Programming Lions podcast. Today we host Fabian Garcia, known for his political commentary and his social media influence. You've probably seen him interviewing students on campus or at leftist events, rallies and protests, asking the hard questions and engaging with the other side. In addition to all that, he was recently on the ground in Israel, and so we've got a lot to get into. Let's go.

FABIAN GARCIA:

Fabian, welcome to the podcast. It's great to have you on. We've been observing your channel and some of your recent travels, and we're really intrigued about some of the insights that you have to offer. But before we get into that, maybe you can just tell us a little bit about like, what got you into this game of politics, culture, wars, and what keeps you motivated? That is a great question, and it, it all started with my grandmother came from Cuba in the 1960s, and she fled communism there. So she understands what it was, how it was living under it, and and the struggles that people survived day to day. And she came to America in the sixties. I was born here and my entire life, she's instilled in me those stories of what communism is, what it is to live in a communist country where you own nothing, where you can't do anything, you're essentially a slave. You have to wait four hours in line just for bread and food and things like that, where you get. One pair of shoes per person, per year. And if you mess up that pair of shoes, you have to figure it out until the next year. So those values of First Amendment, especially freedom of speech was really drilled into me growing up. And the fact that she always said, if you lose to say what you want to say, that's how you start becoming a communist country. In 2020, obviously everyone knows what happened. I started looking at the world and seeing some of the vicious laws and ungodly laws that were passed in California. That's what essentially activated me to start just speaking my mind on issues. At that point, nobody was saying what they wanted to say.'cause this was peak woke years and people were being censored, canceled, blocked, shadow, banned, you name it, I've been in it. Kept going and kept going. Thankfully people like you see me through the algorithm and reached out and now I'm here. Alright. Very cool. We will definitely wanna talk a little bit about communism and your background and thoughts there. So, but without further ado, we we got a, a number of questions lined up starting with some of your recent travels. So Yeah, we heard that you were recently in, in Israel and the Gaza area and we know definitely what's going on over there. Right? So I'm curious like, what's it like actually being on the ground over there? That's a great question. One of the most important things in life that I've realized fortunately from a younger age, not as long as you boys are, but it, it's to travel and experience and see things for your own eyes. Because we have to figure that about 80 to 90% of what's put out there in the media is propaganda. It has some kind of bias. It's trying to make you think something, and the words they use and the way they use images are supposed to get you to that point. So my thing is I always want to go see places with my own eyes to see is this real, what's really happening? And then just report back the truth, which is what I'm all about. So before I went to Israel, I didn't know what to expect. I heard so many things. You see the bombings, you see this, you see that. You hear about the IDF being just savages and animals. And when I went there. When I go most places, my mind is very open and I see what's real. And it's an incredible country, first of all. Minus everything happening. Just the actual country, the history of, of all religions are there. You have incredible sites, archeological sites, but it's very safe. And that's one thing that I didn't realize before I went there because every person is required to go into the Army for at least one year.

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

Hmm.

FABIAN GARCIA:

Everyone there has training has training with weapons. Everyone there has responsibilities that, that they've had at a very young age, starting at 18, I believe, or 16, depending on if you're a guy or girl. Mm-hmm. But there's guns everywhere. People are out. Wearing the sidearms. Some, some people even have rifles. I didn't see any crime whatsoever. There was no, there was at no point that I feel unsafe in the country of Israel. So that's one thing that people have to realize. The threats come from the outside in, not from the inside out. Gaza, just to, to, you know, to quickly touch on that, being on the border of Gaza, touring bases of the IDF going down in the tunnels that they've recreated. So in these bases, they recreate the Gaza tunnels and the Syrian tunnels as well to do training there. When you are in those tunnels, even though it was an army base and there was obviously no one there trying to kill us, you really understand what it's like for these hostages that have been in there for years and years and years. It is so hot. There is no room to walk. You can't even stand up straight. And we were shown by one of the guys in there who was actually, he, he's in, in the tunnels all the time in Gaza, the cages that they keep the hostages in. And these cages, you wouldn't even keep your dog in these cages. And these are the cages that they're forcing people to sit in, or I say sit because you can't stand in them for years and years and years. And it, it, it's just a catastrophe what's happening down there. So those are just a few of the points quickly that I've experienced in Israel. Yeah. What about some of the points that we see?'cause I agree that a lot of what we see is propaganda. In fact, I've seen so many AI videos, I, I feel like people can't even spot this anymore. But we see videos that come across social media that are clearly AI generated of people starving or begging for food and like, what's that vibe like, really on the ground over there in terms of people starving, not getting the food that they deserve. This is a big part of the narrative right now, and so I'm just curious like what's true. It, it really is, it's a huge part of the narrative and it's the main propaganda piece that they've been pushing for using years. And again, this is nothing new. We've seen that whenever there's any kind of situation, people push the starving kids and the, you know, the UN sites and the starving people. And that's what really gets clicks and attention. So what people don't know is there are two major organizations or foundations that are distributing food in Gaza. You have the un mm-hmm. Which has about 400 distribution sites. Very inept. They're, they're giving food in, in many cases, directly to Hamas to go distribute by, by their own accounts of the un. 90% of the trucks of food that they sent into Gaza was intercepted by an armed group. That means that Hamas gets the food and they distribute it to whoever they want, so they determine who gets food. So the US and Israel saw this and said, this is not working. So they started what's called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the GHF, and they operate at about four different sites. Now, what they did is they said, instead of giving them the the food to who knows who, let's give it directly to the people. So they have this section where they protect, so citizens of Gaza can come in and get the food themselves. Now they're able to distribute. About a mil, they, they can feed about a million, almost a million people per day. Wow. They give'em these boxes that have, yeah, they give'em these boxes. And these boxes have I think like five meals each, and each of those meals has about 1000, I'm sorry, it has about 2000 calories or so. So enough food for every person for every day. And that's just a GHF, that's not, that's not the un. Cam Higby a good friend of mine, he was on the trip with me. He got to go inside Gaza. I unfortunately had to leave before. Mm-hmm. But he was seeing all these massive pellets of food that were sitting there for people. So there are two different distribution centers foundations or organizations. There's enough food for everyone. But Gaza is ran by Hamas. They're their government there, unfortunately, and they determine who gets a lot of the food. So I agree. There is starvation there. Mm-hmm. But it's not coming because there's a lack of food there. Right. Yeah. In fact, I've seen some of Cam Higbee's pieces on this, which appreciate him, you know, taking a step into that. Probably uncomfortable territory to show some of this in, in Gaza. Obviously it's horrific what's going on, but the stories, it's just hard to know what's true. So is it just me or us I guess that anti-Jewish things are being more mainstreamed? No, you're absolutely right. And it, this, this all goes back to religion again. Religion is like the crux of everything.'cause that's where morality comes from. That's where our laws come from. They're based on religion and obviously different types of governments have different types of religions that they base off, like Sharia life, for example. If you go back to the birth of Jesus, which is what we call Year Zero, about 700 years after that, this guy that we're told lives named Mohammed, came up with a different form of law, essentially, and religion rather. And, and then you had a period about 1400 years after that, which is what what brings us to where, where we are now. That brings us to modern day. Now, when those 1400 years would've happened, there's been many, what, what are called caliphates? So essentially Islam took over a lot of North Africa basically the Byzantine Empire and about 90% of Spain that they had to get back over the course of 700 years. So, you have to think about all that. And those are competing religions. Now, how does religion how does Christianity spread by spreading love The gospel, saying things like, all men are created equal, which is where we got that from. It didn't say specifically, but we got that all men or create equal from the Bible. And you have another religion that has been battling Christianity and Judaism to be the the supreme one that's Islam. So when you see that a lot of these bots, these people talking about and talking up this rhetoric of anti, anti-Jewish stuff. A lot of those bots come from Qatar, Pakistan, and Iran. Mm. And what are all those three countries? Those are all Muslim countries that follow Islamist law. Those are all, some of those countries have surreal law. In fact most of them actually. So this is nothing new. There's a plan to divide America, right. America is like the big brother. It controls everything. Everyone from the Marxist to the communist to the, to the Islamists need to bring down Christianity because it's the strongest around the world right now. Yeah. And we have the most influence. So how do you bring it down? Well, one is you can separate the Jews and the Christians. Make them fight. Make everyone hate the Jews. Now, that's one small part of the game, right? It's the easiest. There's only 10 million Jews in the world. Christians are in the billions. Mm-hmm. So first you destroy that connection. You make everyone hate the Jews. Hitler's done it. Many people have done it over time. But then once they're out of the game, and Islam can take over the only country in the Middle East right now that it doesn't control, which is Israel as the last one standing, then you can turn your, you can turn your gaze onto the Christian and the Western world, which is what they're already doing. But they're mostly attacking Jews right now. As far as the rhetoric, no one's saying, I mean, you have people saying Death to America and Islam, but that's not something that's been, that's everywhere right now. A lot of these countries are playing nice with us. But you have to remember, this is a, this is not something that they wanna do tomorrow. This is a multi-generational, even if they have to wait a thousand years, they believe that they will win. Mm-hmm. So this is literally a battle of, at the end of the day. Yeah.

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

Yeah,

FABIAN GARCIA:

it makes sense. Kind of just chipping away at it and they have a long-term game plan in mind. I'm also just amazed

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

mainstream influencers,

FABIAN GARCIA:

influencers, Tucker Carlson, a Candace Owens, and of course you've got the Nick Fuentes is out there that are really like pumping up this anti-Jewish rhetoric. And it candidly, it surprises me that this is happening and it's becoming very mainstream and more people are getting on board and I'm, I'm shocked, I'm not sure what to make of this. What do you, what do you say? That's actually a great question and what, what I see out of this is opportunistic people, right? You have a a large rise in Christian nationalism as well. Which essentially a lot of people don't even know about what this is yet. But in a very simple sense is to create. Another Catholic type of monarchy for the Christian Church. So they want a Christian Pope, they want morality. Courts, same the same way. Sharia law has their own morality courts. They want to remove the freedom from the individual and give it back to some authoritarian type power. Mm-hmm. Now we, we've had that right? People left Europe and came to America, and now we have our constitution. But the one thing that none of these ideologies or, or, or, or ways of government, whether it be fascism, communism, Sharia law, or Christian nationalism, what they don't have in common with America is the fact that we have individual rights. We have this pesky thing that everybody wants to get rid of on that side, which is called the Constitution. Mm-hmm. The communists hate it. Socialists hate it. The the Muslims hate it, and people who want more power hate it. So in my estimation, what Tuck Carlson is doing is he's driving a wedge between Judaism and Christianity. They want to make the problem look so bad that we have to do something now. Machi Valley talks about this, A lot of writers talk about this. Whenever you want to take rights away from people, what do you do? You scare them. Mm-hmm. Oh, look at the black people. They're committing all this crime. We need to do this. Oh, look at the Muslims or doing this. So we have to do this. All you have to do to be safe, everybody is just give us some of your rights and then we'll take care of you. Correct. Correct. And that's been the, the, the, the, the, the overarching theme. Now, of course, money is involved in it. Of course you know, black male could be involved in it, other factors that could be involved in it. But, you know, Tucker Carlson, he considers himself a Paleoconservative. Mm-hmm. It's not the mainline conservatism that we have in the country right now. Mm-hmm. So everybody wants more power. That's what they all want. How do they get that and how do they place themselves nearest the top of that power as they possibly can when they see things changing? They want to be the person at the top. Now, if you ask about Nick Fuentes, in my opinion, he's a complete psyop CIA, something like that. I, I, I don't believe for a fact that he's doing anything that he really believes. Maybe he believes it now, but quickly. The problem with Nick Fuentes is, again, the guy's been doing this since he was 16. He has not traveled and I've researched this, there's nothing that we can determine that he's traveled out of the country. Mm-hmm. So he hasn't seen the world, he hasn't seen any of these places. He's just passing his opinion on people who he's never met, who's never experienced the way of life, who he's never been in their culture. And that to me is one of the most dangerous types of people that can say, I know this is wrong. Mm-hmm. But I've never experienced it. I've never read it. It's like someone tell Yeah. It is like someone trying to tell you about the Bible and they've never read the Bible. Right. Yeah. It's a saint thing. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We see a lot of that too. But it is wild. Like his popularity in particular is skyrocketing right now. It's pretty crazy. When you think about like the message. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, part of the reason, and I talked about this a year and a half ago or two years ago now, time flies, was that there's gonna be an overcorrection. Right. We were so subjugated by woke. Mm-hmm. It controlled the world. We were so mad. Everyone was so mad. So then MAGA happened and all these people came out of the woodwork and said, Maga, now there's all this anger and aggression. Right. From those years and years, especially Gen Z that had to live under, under this dictatorship. Mm-hmm. And now we won the presidency. Yeah. But there's still that anger, there's still that, that drive to do something. So. These people like Nick Fuentes, like Tucker, like Candace, they've used that anger and that frustration to say, pull'em all the way to the right, to these things that aren't American whatsoever. Because we can capitalize on all that pent up aggression. Yeah. Because it's hard to say fight for four years. And now we want, okay, now what do you do? Do you go back to your everyday lives? Some people did, but some people didn't. Then you enhance that, those ideas with all these fake bots from Iran, Pakistan, Qatar. Yeah. And then you make it look like it's a lot more popular than it really is. But if you ask anyone outside that's not on X or that's not in the political sphere, who's Nick ENT is, they have no idea. They may have seen a clip of him somewhere, but they don't know what he really believes. This is a small section of the population that is pushing this stuff, and it's a lot of people who are just fed up and I get that. Yeah. But they have to take time and say, okay, these are the extremes. Let me look at what the middle is. Like, what's, what's, what's logic say in the situation. Mm-hmm. A lot of people say that, you know, Israel is like controlling the US and Israel is controlling everybody, right? So I'm curious what you think about that. Do you like, tell me your thoughts on Israel? Possibly, you know, controlling like the world basically, right? Like having a lot of influence. So the world population is in a billions, Jewish people in total make up about 10 million. Mm-hmm. There's about, I believe, eight, 8 million Jews in Israel and apac, which is what people typically post or talk about. Mm-hmm. They give, I think, like, I don't know, 50 million ish dollars or so like that. What people never mentioned is that APAC is not the only organization that exists to push, like things that are Israeli. Right. With the American government, you have the Council of Amer council of American Islamists relations, CAIR. You have Qatar. You have all of these different countries that have their own version of apac. But of course the media never talks about that because it's all the Jews. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I believe that there's an easy way to fix this and that this is not just because of the Jewish problem. This is money and politics. Money and politics ruins everything. So yeah, if we were to get rid of special interest and lobbies, you would not only remove the power that APAC may have in the US Congress, but you also remove the power that Qatar, Iran any country has over the us. The problem is because politicians have to spend so much money to win races, they have to go lobby with somebody. The biggest lobby in the country is a pharmaceutical lobby. They dwarf everybody combined, including apac. Right? Right. All they do is they tell a politician, Hey, you're gonna have to run in about a year and a half. I mean, let's say a year if you're a Congress member every two years. Right. You have to, you have to run for congress. That means that you, you, it's not like you, you run the last month. You have to be setting up this entire time to run for Congress. Yeah. Because if you don't, you're gonna lose. So they say, Hey, let's have a little get together for you. We're gonna throw some, a nice little party and then we're gonna bring a bunch of people and they're all gonna give you money for you to run again. All you have to do is, hey, there's this law that might impact our business. Can we ask you to just vote against that?'cause it's really gonna hamper our, our business and you know. We, we wanna help you stay in Congress. Right. So that's what we do to say. Sure. And that's the problem with all this. If you got rid of money in politics, special interest, we will be a much better country. And then politicians, which we know don't have the best moral constitution in the first place. And could be tempted very easily, would have a much harder time voting against the interests of the people who actually elected them. Yeah. Sneaky fellows. They are. Yeah they are. I like very sneaky. I like that a lot. Getting special interests and so forth out of politics. The other thing I'd love to see single bill legislation so you know what people are voting for. There's basic things that we know all Americans want. Like we, we want like to remove these corruption, we wanna remove insider trading, we wanna remove collusion by external organizations. We want single bill legislation. But the politicians don't put it in'cause like obviously it's not in their best interest. one thing that the boys and I,'cause we try to unpack this, it's complicated. The whole thing is complicated, obviously, but we like to think of it like maybe two things to be true at once. Okay. We got this conflict with Hamas it seems like it, they're warranted in terms of defending themselves from terrorism. That's one thing. And then you have this whole other narrative around their global influence, whether it's, you know, Mossad and Epstein and extortion rings and tactics and honeypots and and APAC and all that. And that might also be true, but they're kind of like two, like two distinct things, right? Like one, they have the right to defend themselves and if this, they have this global influence. Well, we should break that down separately, but it seems like as people are lumping it all together and just like turning it into this, this hate fueled target, and absolutely. You're absolutely right. Now when people talk about Israel, they're typically talking about, typically talking about the government. Mm-hmm. Now, I know that government is not all well, right? Right. They have a parliamentary system. It's a big battle for power. Many people don't know that the Supreme Court be because Israel's only been a country since 1948. They don't have the kind of case law that someone like America has with hundreds of years of Supreme Court passing judgments. Mm-hmm. So their Supreme Court is very leftist. Not leftist in a sense of communist, because that's not really a thing there, but leftist in a sense of, I guess, extremely liberal, you can say. And they are writing laws that, that, and Yes. And they're writing laws that there's no precedent for this law. So you can't point to them say, no, actually this is not right, because we have this, this, this precedent, this law that was passed a hundred years ago that says this. They don't have that. So they're making things up as they want. Mm-hmm. And that's causing a massive hindrance. Now, are there corrupt people in the Israeli government? 100%. But that's every single government. And I think that we should root out the bad people and prosecute them if they need to be prosecuted, et cetera. Well, when people say Israel or the Jews, they can confuse so many things. And because Israel's only one place where. Jewish people are a culture, it's a religion, it's a country, and it's a government. Yeah. So people say they're Jews. They have to realize that 70% of Jewish people in America vote democratic. So it's clearly not the people they're moving. Yes. That's an It's pretty crazy. Mm. Jewish people in America vote 70% Democratic. So they're voting in, in most cases against their own interest. Yeah. So that's the first question I ask people when they say the Jews. Okay. What do you mean? The Jewish culture? The Jewish religion, the Jewish people, the Jewish country. Or the Jewish government. Right. Because those are many, many different things, and usually that's where the conversation ends because they can't explain to me what they mean by that. Yeah, yeah. It's just the Jews

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

And I can't

FABIAN GARCIA:

and I can't help but wonder, like after World War II, if. People got together and they were like, whoa, that was close. We are not gonna let this happen again. Therefore, we are gonna put some measures in place. Some of them are gonna be a little extreme, but we are not gonna let this happen again. And so in some ways, I don't know, like this might be a weird take, but like in some ways you have to admire the ability that they have risen and gained all of this power and technological advancement and all of that as a small group of people after this horrible atrocity that they went through, obviously with the Holocaust. And so in some ways yeah, I have to admire it, i'm curious because now also, and we've seen this a lot on our channel, we've seen a lot of comments and stuff about Marxist, right? Like, screw capitalism, let's go back to Marxism or whatever, right? Oh yeah. So I'm curious for you

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

about

FABIAN GARCIA:

about, mm-hmm. How deeply do you think Marxist ideologies have now infiltrated and like came into the modern world? So I'll say it never left, right? It got better in America for, for quite a while, but it never left. It's always been here. We've actually implemented, I guess you can call'em socialist types of economic principles in America. Mm-hmm. Right? If you look at the stock market, what do you own as a part of a company? You own a share, right? You're able to share in profit. So that's essentially sort of a socialist mechanism. That's implemented into a capitalist system'cause you share in the profits. Mm-hmm. But the, the, the overarching problem, just from a macro perspective of socialism and communism, Marxism ideology, is that it's a envious ideology. You have more than me. I want some of what you have. Give me it now I'm gonna bring us back to religion because again, everything goes back to religion. And here's what a lot of people don't understand about communism, which is the ultimate form of socialism because they lead to, it wants to lead to communism. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's a religion. Okay. So what communism aims to do is to get back to the Garden of Eden on man's own terms. So they want to make the world perfect. They believe that private property is a cause of all of our problems because you can have something that I can't. Mm-hmm. And that creates division between people. So they believe that number one, we have to get rid of all private property. When they say, get rid of all private property. Someone has to make the property, someone has to own it. Who owns it? Well, at first it's gonna be the government. Mm-hmm. So let's give everything to the government. The government's gonna tell us who can use what when, depending on our skin color, how oppress they say we are and everything else. So now we're giving up all our rights to the government. They can tell us what we can eat, what we can't eat, what we have to live, all these things that China is already experiencing. And it is a religion because the ultimate form of communism is to have no government, because everyone's gonna be perfectly happy in their estimation. Now, of course, it's never worked. Socialism has never worked. It always ends in, does millions and millions and millions and millions of people dying every single time it's been tried, but mm-hmm. The reason they attack capitalism is because they say that's the problem. Right. Because Mark said, oh, it's not, it's, it's an economic problem. The have and the have nots. The proletariats versus bourgeoisie. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a problem of how much you make. And then some guy named Manton Gramke came around who wrote some things called a prison notebooks in, in Italy when he was in prison. Mm-hmm. And he said, no, no, no, no. That, that's not it. It didn't work because capitalism make everyone so, so abundant in things. They have that no, nobody wants a revolution. If you have enough to take care of your family, you have a house. Right. So they go, okay, that didn't work. What can we do now? Well, let's make it into cultural mar Marxism, where the dividing lines aren't between how much money you have, but what your skin color is, where you come from. Mm-hmm. That worked a lot better because you can't change the color of your skin unless you're Michael Jackson. Let's say you're born white and the white people are bad. You can't escape that. So that means that, and this happened in woke. They said, are you an ally of us? Are you what do they call it? They called it you have to do the work. Do the work. Meaning you have to, every single day you have to think about being anti what you are. Mm-hmm. Right. Imagine the mindset if every day you woke up and you hated yourself, that's what they wanna turn you into in order to push their socialist, Marxist, communist agenda. And it, it, it's never worked. They've had to reinvent the, the types of oppression that people are under because economic wasn't enough. Right. I've read the Manifesto and DOS Cap, and when I look at it, I think this is, this was, this was just a drunken buffoon writing a bunch of nonsense like chirping at capitalism. You didn't really give a roadmap for how communism can work. Because every time I look at it, I just boil it down to something simple, which is, as a person, I want to get the most outta life and I wanna put in the least amount of effort to get the best outcomes. So if you think of that equation, well, if my outcomes are fixed, well then I'm just gonna like, asymptotically go to zero in terms of my level of effort. And that is destructive, degenerative, and regressive for society. So I, I can't like fathom how it works in theory and then in practice it's been an absolute disaster. I look at Karl Marx the same way I look at Mohammed or the first they say lived that was named Mohammed. Because fun fact about Islam. Little, little side note, there was no, there, there was no vowels in seventh century Arabic, so it was actually impossible to say the name Mohammed. There was no O's or a's in seventh century Arabic, but they say that he looked. Anyway,

FABIAN_GARCIA-Matt-webcam-00h_00m_00s_328ms-StreamYard:

Really?

FABIAN GARCIA:

Karl Mars, when you research who the man was, the guy was one of the worst people you can possibly be. He never worked. Even his, his, his parents would write him letters saying You need to get a job and produce for society. But he didn't want to do that. He wanted people to give him money to speak and to write. Mm-hmm. And he had all these failed newsletters that he would constantly start and he would beg, who would he beg for money? Not other socialists, but he would beg the rich, affluent people to give him money, which is really, really funny. Yeah. He failed over and over and over again. Then he got married, his, his wife had some money. He used up all that money. They were absolutely poor. They were living in a one it's not even a one bedroom. They were living in like, let's say the pantry of, of some random place where he had his maid. And his maid, which is funny, was actually, was actually a slave. She was, she was an indentured servant. Mm-hmm. So, so for a guy that's saying that, you know, we are slaves as a system, he owned his own version of a slave and then he got that made pregnant or that slave pregnant and had a baby with her when bed. So for Karl Martin is like the worst example of a person. Same, same way. I believe that Hamed was, was the worst example of someone to be the best example for, for an ideology or a religion. Yeah. So I always like to go back and read about the people who wrote this thing. Right. But secondly, quickly is we've been what I call red washed. Mm-hmm. Schools do not teach. The horrors from these ideologies being put into practice? So there are a lot of crazy leftist policies as anybody with a brain would know, right? So. I am very curious if you can dismantle one leftist policy, what would it be? Oh, that's a great question. There are so many. So we got rid of DEI already, the DEI is essentially gone. Here's a simple one that we have that's trying to be pushed in so many states right now is that parents have consent to pull their children out of classes that they don't want them to be in. Gender ideology classes that they don't want their kids to be in. Mm-hmm. That would be a huge one because there's a big push of taking away parental rights right now. Like Canada, the what was her name? I forget her name, but she just resigned after Trump came in office because she said she didn't wanna work with the world when Trump in it. Yeah. But she basically said, I think almost two years ago now, that there are no such things as parental rights. So there's a massive push to make the government raise the children and have the parents be afraid of the children. This is exactly what happened when Ma Dong took over China. One of the first things he did before he took over is that he took over all of the universities, he closed'em for I believe a year. And then he told all the kids, now that you have all this free time, I want you to go tell me which teacher you think was speaking out against the government and specifically him.'cause he was the government and it caused so many teachers to be killed by their own students. Chased hit. He told the kids, if you hear something your parents are saying, that's anti-communist. Yeah, tell me and we'll send people there. Right? There were kids that were turning in their own parents. So such terrible things happen. And that's the beginnings it's to invert everything where the adults have the power and, and the knowledge. Have the adult scared of the kids. Now, once the, once the Red guard is, which is what he called it, he called, he's called them the red guard. They all had a little book of mal called the Little Red Book in their little pockets. And they all had to read it like it was a Bible. Once they were all done disrupting everything, he said, okay, now I have a bunch of people that I've, that I've compelled to do this dirty work for me. And now I want peace. Now I want Stableness because I'm in power now. Mm-hmm. I can't have these people. And what did he do? He sent him out. Many, many, many were killed by, by his army. And he sent so many of them out to reeducation camps, which is the fields to change the way their mind worked to make them stable. Mm-hmm. And millions of them died out there. So it's always the same. We call them the useful idiots people that think they're doing something, but they're doing it for someone who doesn't care about them. So if you can break down that bond, it, you can break down society and really control people, it's that's insane. Crazy psychological warfare. Yeah. Yeah. What's your advice for conservative youth like Gen Z and Gen Alpha? It's a very, very good question. Number one. Read the Bible. That's the most important thing because if we know that everything, our nation, our laws, morality comes from the Bible, then that's the foundational text to read. Because it will give, it'll give you clarity. Whenever you hear something new, something you've never seen before, you at least have something to compare it to, to base it off of. When Woke came, one of the biggest problems we had as a whole was figuring out, what the heck are these people talking about? We didn't understand it. We didn't know. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent reading all of these Marxist philosophers and, and all these really old books to understand, and people shouldn't have to do that. But if you know the Bible, you have these tenets, these foundations, these saints of Jesus that you can compare anything to. Nietzche who said, God is dead and we killed them, meaning. Because people are not religious anymore. Something bad's gonna happen to the world, and that's exactly what's been playing out over the last a hundred years or so. But the. Read the Bible. That's my number one thing. Fortunately it seems to be making a comeback with Gen Z and Gen Alpha, which is the generation these boys are in will hopefully be even stronger in terms of their resilience towards Yeah, absolutely. Religion and religion and conservative values. Which maybe leads me into a final question. Like, we've been at this game for a little bit with our podcast and our conservative voice, and I can tell you that people are trying to shut us down all the time. We get hit pieces done on us regularly that we're dealing with. We've had, we've been doxed, we've been threatened all for just sort of trying to share what we think are good traditional moral values with children and have them be comfortable sharing that so that other kids can perhaps also, bring awareness and be comfortable The opposition is really heavy. But one other thing that we've noticed as we've gotten into this conservative movement is not all conservatives are the same. There's a lot of grifters out there, and we have run into some of this and people that are just not genuine. But I'm curious, you've been in this game a bit, and so how can we identify the conservative grifters versus the authentic ones? What's a That's such a good question. You know, and just to go to touch on your point, there are so many grifters in this space. I don't identify with any of them. I don't watch most of these influencers because think about it. If I told you that this AirPod case was white and then in six months I told you it was black. Mm-hmm. Would you think I'm a truthful person? That's exactly what we're seeing. When people like Tucker Carl saying, Candace Owens, all these people, and you can see what they tweet. Just six months a year ago, and now it's completely different. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it's one of the hardest things because now it's a cool thing to be right. It's where the money's at, people say. Yeah. It's, it's, it's what's in, and everyone's gravitating or grifting towards it. I would ask'em how, like, how they grew up, number one, just so you can get a sense of things. And obviously just see what they've said. See what they've posted and if, if, if, if that contradicts what they're saying now, just ask them. So why did you, why did you change? Mm-hmm. You know, who, who knows? They may or may, or they may or they may not have a good answer. Also, what I find is that people who grift typically drift on a very superficial level. That means that they're talking about what everyone else is talking about. Mm-hmm. So usually you can, you can go on X and you can see, okay, everyone's saying this, is this person saying the same thing as everyone else? Or do they have a unique take on the subject? Because. If you're grifting, you're not spending all your time researching. Most of the time you're not doing deep research to come up with your own ideas. You're just parroting what other people are saying. I think that's one easy way to catch a grifter off guard is to actually number one, if you're interviewing them, ask them a deeper question, see if they have an answer to it. Mm-hmm. So what I always do, we're always in a field, we go to a lot of protests, sometimes undercover as Antifa, but we're always debating leftists all over the country. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And here's the best trick I've found that works though. You ask'em a question, let's just say, for instance, do you like Donald Trump or are abortions okay? Mm-hmm. We're gonna give you their superficial answer. Right. The, just the answer that they have memorized. Yeah. The one that they don't have to think about it. Right. And then I ask them, do you think that you're right on this issue? And they're gonna say yes. And then you ask them the best question, why do you believe that what you believe is true? Mm-hmm. Right. That question makes them go and think. And if they can't give you a cohesive answer why they believe what they, that they believe is true, then you kind of caught'em off guard. And most people can't do that. If you have the Bible as a foundation, you can always reference the Bible. That's good advice. Max is on the operation 3, 6, 5 to read the Bible in, in a year. And wow, not all of us. That's great. Not, not all of us were that committed to it, but I'll tell you, this whole world and culture has actually brought us a lot closer to God as we see things happening around the world, it just shows us more and more that there's an absence of God, faith and commitment and traditional values. And so it's actually strengthened our resolve to, to see some of this craziness going on in the world. So, yeah. Anyway, it's, it's, it's very good advice. We could probably talk to you all day. You got so many interesting takes and stories and experiences, but we'll wrap up the podcast here. Thanks so much for coming on. And before we wrap up though, what is the best way for people to follow you? Where are you most active? What would do you recommend? Yeah, you can find me at political Fabian on any platform. Okay. Make it easy political. All right. And we'll, we'll tag those into the description thanks for doing what you do. It seems like a voice of reason. We appreciate that, definitely in this space. So, yeah, so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah. And by the way, you're, you two boys are gonna be absolute animals when it comes to debating knowledge. That's what your dad's doing for you is the most important thing a father can do. So kudos to you for doing it. I know it's a lot of work, a lot of time you guys are getting backlash. I know exactly how that feels. You guys are what people on the left love to hate, right? Mm-hmm. You guys are a nuclear family. You're obviously. You know, you're, you're doing this, you, you you're reading the Bible, you're everything that they hate. So of course they're gonna come after you because if, if what you guys are doing spreads around the world, the world will be a much better place.