{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":3.84,"endTime":7.672,"body":"Welcome back to the Basic Bee podcast. I am so happy to be here"},{"startTime":7.696,"endTime":10.904,"body":"with you, to have a friend here with us. And we're going to be talking"},{"startTime":10.952,"endTime":13.88,"body":"about a whole bunch of different things. So I don't even have like a very"},{"startTime":13.92,"endTime":17.592,"body":"clear focus for you. We're just going to see what the heck unfolds here. But"},{"startTime":17.616,"endTime":21.432,"body":"I've got Jordan Gill here and let me just like introduce you to"},{"startTime":21.456,"endTime":24.392,"body":"her in case you don't know who Jordan Gill is, which means you've probably been"},{"startTime":24.416,"endTime":28.056,"body":"living under a rock and if you have, welcome, here's fresh air. Like, it's nice"},{"startTime":28.088,"endTime":31.648,"body":"to have you here. Jordan Gill is a multi seven"},{"startTime":31.704,"endTime":35.392,"body":"figure business strategist whose mission is for high achieving business owners to"},{"startTime":35.416,"endTime":39.12,"body":"prioritize rest without sacrificing revenue. Her"},{"startTime":39.16,"endTime":42.672,"body":"podcast system, Save Me goes beyond the success of businesses to"},{"startTime":42.696,"endTime":46.512,"body":"spotlight the invisible systems you've never seen or heard of. When"},{"startTime":46.536,"endTime":50.384,"body":"she's not spreading the gospel of systematic success, she's working on one of"},{"startTime":50.392,"endTime":54.224,"body":"her thousand piece jigsaw puzzles or traveling the world with her husband and bonus"},{"startTime":54.272,"endTime":58.03,"body":"son, Jordan. I'm so happy to have you here. Oh my gosh. This is"},{"startTime":58.07,"endTime":61.534,"body":"like, I don't know. We booked this so long ago and it's always been like,"},{"startTime":61.622,"endTime":64.65,"body":"I'm so excited for that day that's gonna come soon."},{"startTime":65.43,"endTime":69.246,"body":"It'll be here eventually. Yeah, I was looking. I think we booked"},{"startTime":69.278,"endTime":72.782,"body":"this like four months ago because I just. Okay. So to the point of your"},{"startTime":72.886,"endTime":76.51,"body":"bio. Yeah, I needed to take a break. I had like shoved a lot"},{"startTime":76.55,"endTime":80.302,"body":"on. My calendar and we have to do that sometimes. So I'm glad that"},{"startTime":80.326,"endTime":83.102,"body":"you took that break. I was there to ride out the break with you and"},{"startTime":83.126,"endTime":85.854,"body":"now we're here. We get to have a fun conversation. So I'm all good for"},{"startTime":85.862,"endTime":89.562,"body":"it. And before either of us forget to mention, I was over on"},{"startTime":89.586,"endTime":93.418,"body":"Jordan's podcast where we were talking about, I think it was like missed opportunities for"},{"startTime":93.474,"endTime":97.274,"body":"networking and collaborations. Totally. Yeah. So that was a good"},{"startTime":97.282,"endTime":100.138,"body":"show. I'll give you the link and whatnot for people to listen. Cause it was"},{"startTime":100.194,"endTime":103.642,"body":"really, really good. And Brittany and I both like share"},{"startTime":103.826,"endTime":107.658,"body":"like such a respect around collaboration and"},{"startTime":107.714,"endTime":111.37,"body":"how you go about connecting with people and just"},{"startTime":111.41,"endTime":115.162,"body":"having genuine relationships and friendships online. So it was a really good"},{"startTime":115.186,"endTime":118.568,"body":"episode. Definitely wanted to listen. Thanks. I had a lot of fun and I don't"},{"startTime":118.584,"endTime":121.384,"body":"know, I was talking about this this weekend with somebody and I was like, I"},{"startTime":121.392,"endTime":124.184,"body":"feel like I'm one of those weirdos that actually does go back and listen to"},{"startTime":124.192,"endTime":127.336,"body":"my own conversations because I. Well, It's a little bit of, like,"},{"startTime":127.408,"endTime":131.0,"body":"practicing for me. Like, is there anything I can tighten up on or"},{"startTime":131.04,"endTime":134.808,"body":"anything I felt like an idiot need to warn people about or"},{"startTime":134.864,"endTime":138.072,"body":"just like, how could I summarize the conversation for anyone I want to share it"},{"startTime":138.096,"endTime":141.608,"body":"with? So it's a lot of fun to go back and listen. And I love"},{"startTime":141.664,"endTime":145.404,"body":"just having these conversational episodes with people I know. I"},{"startTime":145.412,"endTime":148.284,"body":"think the only one I went back to listen to was one that I was"},{"startTime":148.452,"endTime":151.884,"body":"super vulnerable with. So that one, like, scared me"},{"startTime":151.972,"endTime":155.772,"body":"because I wasn't super raw, but it felt raw in the moment as of"},{"startTime":155.796,"endTime":159.004,"body":"sharing. So I was like, okay, let me, like, listen and sound completely"},{"startTime":159.052,"endTime":162.828,"body":"unhinged. And it was actually okay. But that was the only"},{"startTime":162.884,"endTime":166.652,"body":"one. That's so funny. Was that the one with them on? Yeah, yeah, no, that"},{"startTime":166.676,"endTime":169.916,"body":"was a really good one. I'll link that one because that was a really good"},{"startTime":169.988,"endTime":173.742,"body":"conversation that the two of you had. She's on the podcast too. Oh, my"},{"startTime":173.766,"endTime":177.182,"body":"gosh. She's an amazing interviewer. I'm just like, I've done"},{"startTime":177.206,"endTime":180.09,"body":"400 episodes on mine, but, like, you literally are"},{"startTime":180.55,"endTime":184.366,"body":"thousands times better than I am. You're good though."},{"startTime":184.438,"endTime":188.03,"body":"I love both of your shows. So we are not going to, like, put one"},{"startTime":188.07,"endTime":191.854,"body":"over the other. That's true. There's room for everybody. There is."},{"startTime":191.942,"endTime":195.71,"body":"So. Okay, now for the point of why we're even here. Well, one"},{"startTime":195.75,"endTime":199.334,"body":"of. I know that people comment on, like, me"},{"startTime":199.422,"endTime":202.982,"body":"and different offers that I share and how my business has shifted over the"},{"startTime":203.006,"endTime":206.678,"body":"years, but you're someone else that I see in this space who's like, I don't"},{"startTime":206.694,"endTime":210.39,"body":"know, the best way to phrase it feels like experimenting out loud. Yeah. So,"},{"startTime":210.43,"endTime":213.686,"body":"like, take us through that. What that's been like, what it's felt like."},{"startTime":213.838,"endTime":217.67,"body":"Totally. So I wasn't always experimenting out"},{"startTime":217.71,"endTime":221.478,"body":"loud. You know, my business kind of has chunks. So, like, the first"},{"startTime":221.534,"endTime":225.222,"body":"four years of my business was when I was offering VIPAs"},{"startTime":225.286,"endTime":228.88,"body":"myself. And that was that era. 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Which half the time"},{"startTime":253.88,"endTime":257.641,"body":"people don't even know when I fail because, you know, if one or two"},{"startTime":257.665,"endTime":260.601,"body":"people purchase something, and I meant for it to be for More like I just"},{"startTime":260.625,"endTime":264.281,"body":"either refund them the money and move on with my life, or I just do"},{"startTime":264.305,"endTime":267.433,"body":"it for the two people, and then we also move on with our lives."},{"startTime":267.601,"endTime":271.305,"body":"So you think that people are paying so close attention to you"},{"startTime":271.377,"endTime":274.985,"body":"and that they're gonna, like, find all these little cracks and whatever"},{"startTime":275.017,"endTime":278.521,"body":"else, but I found that more times than not. And it'll be interesting to hear"},{"startTime":278.545,"endTime":281.929,"body":"what. What you think too, or what your experience has been. But people have actually"},{"startTime":281.969,"endTime":285.545,"body":"been very appreciative of me doing it versus, like, okay,"},{"startTime":285.577,"endTime":289.186,"body":"Jordan is unhinged. Why is she launching all these things?"},{"startTime":289.338,"endTime":293.042,"body":"Somebody check on her. Because this is like, not how"},{"startTime":293.066,"endTime":296.77,"body":"you do business or like, she just seems like she's jumping from this to that"},{"startTime":296.81,"endTime":300.258,"body":"to this to that. And I will say that my experiments"},{"startTime":300.354,"endTime":303.97,"body":"are in a general area. I'm not necessarily,"},{"startTime":304.05,"endTime":307.778,"body":"like, going way left field with the"},{"startTime":307.834,"endTime":310.946,"body":"offers that I'm putting out there. So that I think also helps. It's not like"},{"startTime":311.018,"endTime":313.762,"body":"if I were to all of a sudden become a branding strategist, then everyone should"},{"startTime":313.786,"endTime":317.618,"body":"be worried because that is not my expertise and branding actually freaks me out."},{"startTime":317.674,"endTime":321.344,"body":"So it's been cool because it's allowed me to actually get"},{"startTime":321.432,"endTime":324.272,"body":"really, really good at offer creation,"},{"startTime":324.416,"endTime":328.26,"body":"launching, pricing, copywriting,"},{"startTime":328.76,"endTime":332.544,"body":"all of those things that if you're only launching once or twice a year,"},{"startTime":332.632,"endTime":335.424,"body":"or if you're only putting one or two offers out there, or if you've had"},{"startTime":335.432,"endTime":339.18,"body":"the same offer for a few years, which was my done a day season,"},{"startTime":339.96,"endTime":343.696,"body":"yeah, you can get good at some things, but I found"},{"startTime":343.768,"endTime":347.478,"body":"that the experimentation, like, I'm getting really good"},{"startTime":347.534,"endTime":351.11,"body":"at some things that I was okay at for the"},{"startTime":351.15,"endTime":354.79,"body":"majority of my business. And that has been what's really cool for me is,"},{"startTime":354.83,"endTime":357.57,"body":"like, now I can understand"},{"startTime":358.43,"endTime":362.214,"body":"the mechanics of online business a lot better because I've"},{"startTime":362.262,"endTime":366.086,"body":"literally done it so many times, I can't even tell you how many offers I've"},{"startTime":366.118,"endTime":369.878,"body":"created. I'm assuming it's in the 50s or 60s, like, no lie."},{"startTime":369.974,"endTime":373.67,"body":"Wow. And because I remember I said it was in the 30s, like"},{"startTime":373.71,"endTime":377.334,"body":"before done in a day, and so definitely have launched probably"},{"startTime":377.382,"endTime":380.978,"body":"20, 30 things since done in a day. So, yeah, I've actually"},{"startTime":381.034,"endTime":384.594,"body":"really enjoyed it because it allows you to get those skills up to then have"},{"startTime":384.602,"endTime":387.842,"body":"a better understanding of your business, of the businesses you're supporting and"},{"startTime":387.866,"endTime":391.042,"body":"helping. That's what I found. So what have you found with, like,"},{"startTime":391.066,"endTime":394.53,"body":"experimenting? Yeah, it's been interesting because for me, it"},{"startTime":394.57,"endTime":398.322,"body":"started because I have such this, like, perfectionist streak and I was"},{"startTime":398.346,"endTime":402.002,"body":"like a straight A kid and all this stuff. And So I was like, I"},{"startTime":402.026,"endTime":405.154,"body":"have to stop doing this. Like, it's so much pressure. I'm being so mean to"},{"startTime":405.162,"endTime":408.786,"body":"myself when things fail. Yes. And then I just, like, spiral from there. So it's"},{"startTime":408.818,"endTime":412.21,"body":"pretty awful. And you nodding your head. So I feel like you could probably relate."},{"startTime":412.87,"endTime":416.222,"body":"I see you. I see you. We're, like, right here. It started off as, like,"},{"startTime":416.246,"endTime":420.03,"body":"a challenge slash invitation to just, like, knock it off. And"},{"startTime":420.07,"endTime":423.566,"body":"it really did help me to just, like, okay, we're just gonna, like,"},{"startTime":423.638,"endTime":427.422,"body":"see what sticks. And one thing I'm really good at, and you're good"},{"startTime":427.446,"endTime":430.942,"body":"at this too, is noticing what's kind of trending a little bit, what conversations are"},{"startTime":430.966,"endTime":434.542,"body":"happening. Just instead of abc, like people always say, like, ABC always be"},{"startTime":434.566,"endTime":438.342,"body":"closing. I'm always listening. Yeah. To see, like, what are the comments? What"},{"startTime":438.366,"endTime":441.814,"body":"are the thread topics? What are the podcasts that are coming out? And there are"},{"startTime":441.822,"endTime":445.286,"body":"some things that I don't, like, really get into, like AI, but"},{"startTime":445.438,"endTime":448.342,"body":"other things are my jam. And so when it's my jam, I'm like, oh, how"},{"startTime":448.366,"endTime":451.606,"body":"could I help someone with this thing? And then I can create, like, a workshop"},{"startTime":451.638,"endTime":455.062,"body":"or a download or a thing. So I'm just, like, always just poking around and"},{"startTime":455.086,"endTime":458.198,"body":"seeing what people are talking about. And it has, like you said, it's really helped"},{"startTime":458.214,"endTime":461.766,"body":"me to be clear on messaging, clear on how I'm helping people,"},{"startTime":461.918,"endTime":465.75,"body":"who this is for. And I mean, my last workshop was way"},{"startTime":465.79,"endTime":468.534,"body":"bigger than anything else I've ever sold. So I'm like, oh, this is kind of"},{"startTime":468.542,"endTime":472.214,"body":"cool. Like, it really works. It's always fun when that happens."},{"startTime":472.342,"endTime":476.182,"body":"Yeah, it is really fun. Do you know much about your human design? I know"},{"startTime":476.206,"endTime":479.798,"body":"I've asked you this before. Yeah, I'm a projector. What are the numbers?"},{"startTime":479.974,"endTime":483.174,"body":"I'm really quizzing you, Jordan, because I know I'm three,"},{"startTime":483.262,"endTime":487.014,"body":"five. What are your. Two. Okay. Yeah, so four, six"},{"startTime":487.102,"endTime":490.72,"body":"is. I know one of them is like, I'm living my life in,"},{"startTime":490.76,"endTime":494.496,"body":"like, three sections. So the first section was like,"},{"startTime":494.568,"endTime":498.248,"body":"whatever, 0 to 30. And then I'm in my second section. Cause I'm 34."},{"startTime":498.343,"endTime":501.968,"body":"30 to 50ish, and then 50 beyond. So, like,"},{"startTime":502.104,"endTime":505.632,"body":"I'm basically in the. Like, I'm stacking for the"},{"startTime":505.656,"endTime":509.264,"body":"greatness that is 50 and over, I guess. But I don't remember"},{"startTime":509.312,"endTime":513.088,"body":"what the other number means. I need to go back and, like, revisit that."},{"startTime":513.144,"endTime":516.838,"body":"But it's interesting because as a projector, I'm"},{"startTime":516.854,"endTime":520.49,"body":"supposed to wait for the invitation. But what I have noticed"},{"startTime":520.99,"endTime":524.102,"body":"is interesting because I was like, this is not making any Sense because a lot"},{"startTime":524.126,"endTime":527.718,"body":"of times I'm creating things for myself that then I'm like, hey, do you guys"},{"startTime":527.734,"endTime":531.494,"body":"want this? And so it feels like a"},{"startTime":531.502,"endTime":534.822,"body":"backwards invitation because I'm technically inviting them into something I've created for"},{"startTime":534.846,"endTime":538.694,"body":"myself. But then it's almost like, again, I"},{"startTime":538.782,"endTime":542.47,"body":"think so differently and not in like a oh my gosh, I'm like"},{"startTime":542.51,"endTime":546.274,"body":"some savant or something, but just like, I think very differently. I"},{"startTime":546.282,"endTime":549.682,"body":"get that comment a lot when I'm strategizing with people or"},{"startTime":549.706,"endTime":553.41,"body":"when I just put things out there. They're like, I literally would never have,"},{"startTime":553.45,"endTime":556.674,"body":"like, thought of this. And like, I just love your brain. And it's so interesting"},{"startTime":556.722,"endTime":560.002,"body":"to me. And so it's hard to wait for"},{"startTime":560.026,"endTime":563.87,"body":"invitations when people don't even comprehend what"},{"startTime":564.17,"endTime":568.018,"body":"you could possibly come up with. So I've"},{"startTime":568.034,"endTime":571.602,"body":"realized I have to do the asking. And it's not even. I don't see it"},{"startTime":571.626,"endTime":575.472,"body":"as asking for the invitation. I see it as like validating that"},{"startTime":575.496,"endTime":579.232,"body":"they want the invitation to come into my world and come"},{"startTime":579.256,"endTime":582.992,"body":"into like, the stuff that I'm doing. And that has been"},{"startTime":583.016,"endTime":586.768,"body":"really cool. And I 100% agree about the perfectionism and also"},{"startTime":586.824,"endTime":590.608,"body":"the like, people judgment, right? It's like, oh gosh, I'm sure, like someone's"},{"startTime":590.624,"endTime":594.432,"body":"like copying this link and like bashing me in a voxer channel or something, which"},{"startTime":594.456,"endTime":598.192,"body":"I'm sure is true. And it's like, I have to get over that."},{"startTime":598.296,"endTime":602.138,"body":"Like, that is something that I actually am like, more okay with"},{"startTime":602.194,"endTime":605.642,"body":"now than I ever have been. And just knowing that like,"},{"startTime":605.826,"endTime":609.674,"body":"my husband loves me, my bonus son loves me, like, I have a life"},{"startTime":609.762,"endTime":613.434,"body":"that I love and enjoy and like, it's real"},{"startTime":613.522,"endTime":617.002,"body":"versus, like, it's fine if someone's like, oh, she has a pimple on this video"},{"startTime":617.026,"endTime":620.874,"body":"and we should make fun of her because, like, I actually don't care. 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That maybe was something that made you nervous or something that"},{"startTime":677.9,"endTime":681.492,"body":"maybe held you back from doing it before you did it. Oh, totally. And so"},{"startTime":681.516,"endTime":684.932,"body":"you were talking about, like, having offers that make sense. They're, like, within the same"},{"startTime":684.956,"endTime":688.594,"body":"industry, kind of in the same lane. I jumped from massage therapy"},{"startTime":688.642,"endTime":692.338,"body":"over to SEO, because that makes a lot of sense, Right. Well, if there's"},{"startTime":692.354,"endTime":696.194,"body":"a global pandemic, it does. I started"},{"startTime":696.362,"endTime":700.13,"body":"my Instagram handle channel profile, whatever we want to call it, was"},{"startTime":700.17,"endTime":704.002,"body":"all entirely dedicated to massage. And then I started to"},{"startTime":704.026,"endTime":707.122,"body":"shift over into SEO copywriting. 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And it felt like you were saying, like, all the people are watching and"},{"startTime":727.886,"endTime":730.134,"body":"they're going to, like, judge you and they're going to come out with, like, pitchforks"},{"startTime":730.182,"endTime":732.934,"body":"and, like, I don't know what I thought they were going to do with the"},{"startTime":732.942,"endTime":736.63,"body":"pitchforks, but it's literally like no one cared. I mean, eventually they were"},{"startTime":736.67,"endTime":739.542,"body":"like, oh, this is cool. And this is what you're doing. And me changing my"},{"startTime":739.566,"endTime":743.078,"body":"Instagram profile is how I've gotten so many collaborations and clients"},{"startTime":743.174,"endTime":746.932,"body":"and opportunities and all of these things and met some really"},{"startTime":746.956,"endTime":750.692,"body":"cool people, including you. So it's like, just do the thing. It's not a big"},{"startTime":750.716,"endTime":754.052,"body":"deal. 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Cause I'm seeing that a lot with people who"},{"startTime":1579.136,"endTime":1582.788,"body":"are really savvy with digital marketing and have focus"},{"startTime":1582.844,"endTime":1585.94,"body":"on that audience for a long time, but now they can focus on a new"},{"startTime":1585.98,"endTime":1589.508,"body":"audience and speed up the process of"},{"startTime":1589.564,"endTime":1593.38,"body":"success. So that's something that I'm eyeing and seeing other people"},{"startTime":1593.42,"endTime":1596.436,"body":"doing and I think is going to be a big thing. That's very"},{"startTime":1596.508,"endTime":1599.44,"body":"intriguing. I haven't heard anybody say that yet."},{"startTime":1600.46,"endTime":1603.492,"body":"I'm so stoked. I'm like, my brain, my wheels are turning and like, smoke is"},{"startTime":1603.516,"endTime":1607.204,"body":"coming out of my ears. Like, that's very exciting. Yeah, I think it's going to"},{"startTime":1607.212,"endTime":1611.028,"body":"be really cool and I'm here for it. Like, I love innovation,"},{"startTime":1611.124,"endTime":1614.404,"body":"so I'm like, hey, go for it, you know?"},{"startTime":1614.572,"endTime":1617.732,"body":"Yeah, no, I think it's going to be a very interesting year. I'm curious to"},{"startTime":1617.756,"endTime":1621.38,"body":"see how it all plays out. I kind of sort of felt hopeful last year,"},{"startTime":1621.42,"endTime":1624.836,"body":"and then, like, last year was a dumpster fire on steroids."},{"startTime":1625.028,"endTime":1628.18,"body":"So 2025, just. It definitely has a different feel for it, at least for me,"},{"startTime":1628.22,"endTime":1631.524,"body":"so. And I'm hearing that from other people, too. I'm like, okay, cool. Maybe we're"},{"startTime":1631.572,"endTime":1635.252,"body":"like going up now. Yes, exactly."},{"startTime":1635.316,"endTime":1639.06,"body":"We're done with that valley. Let's have a peek. So done with"},{"startTime":1639.1,"endTime":1642.6,"body":"the valley. Couldn't have said it better myself. All right. Where can people"},{"startTime":1642.72,"endTime":1646.2,"body":"find you if they haven't already? Which again, you know, looking at you."},{"startTime":1646.24,"endTime":1649.86,"body":"People just virtually looking at you."},{"startTime":1650.32,"endTime":1653.784,"body":"So Instagram is my jam. Istems, plural saved"},{"startTime":1653.832,"endTime":1657.656,"body":"me. And then I do have my podcast, so obviously you like to listen podcasts."},{"startTime":1657.688,"endTime":1661.32,"body":"That's systemssaved me as well. And then my website is"},{"startTime":1661.36,"endTime":1664.072,"body":"probably the most up to date place. Cause again, I'm up to a lot of"},{"startTime":1664.096,"endTime":1667.928,"body":"shenanigans. So between my website or my Instagram, you're gonna"},{"startTime":1667.944,"endTime":1671.488,"body":"know what's going on in some way, shape or form. I love that. Well, thank"},{"startTime":1671.504,"endTime":1675.264,"body":"you so much for joining me, for waiting to have this call and then just"},{"startTime":1675.272,"endTime":1679.104,"body":"for being so open, as per usual. Yeah, it was so great. Thanks for"},{"startTime":1679.112,"endTime":1682.12,"body":"having me, Brittany. And thanks for listening, y'all. Yeah, we'll catch you next time."}]}