Boruto Grows Up While Naruto Disappears

• Boruto in the Naruto universe without relying on legacy characters 
• Why nostalgia cameos work in some sequels and fail in others 
• One Piece’s recent surge and the 600 million copies milestone 
• Manga versus comics and what “mainstream” actually looks like 
• Why anime movies do not pull crowds like Avatar or Dune 
• Isekai fatigue, weak goals, and stories that never end 
• AI animation as a tool versus a replacement 
• GTA 6 delays, pricing, and how far we would really go 
• The Boys final season trailer and what to watch next 

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Boruto And The Legacy Trap

SPEAKER_03 0:00

What's good everybody? Welcome to the I'm Just Saying podcast with your boy, Mr. Hi. And Buck.

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Hello. Thank you so much for tuning in. We appreciate you listening to Shut up, Buck.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

It's time to start the show. You're killing my high. I gotta go. I'm trying to thank the fans away. What's up, guys? Welcome to the I'm Just Saying podcast. I'm gonna go off on Buck real quick. That's actually a great fucking statement, right? The whole time I've been reading Baruto, I haven't been thinking about Naruto and Naruto shit the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Still the Naruto universe. That's that's just what it is.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

No, no, no, no, no. No, that's a bullshit statement that you're saying. When I was watching Baru, when I was like watching the original Baruto, and when the original Baruto came out, we thought we were talking about oh, look at older Naruto, look at older Sasuke, look at older Toji. I'm telling you right now, look watching the other one, bruh. I'm not thinking about Naruto. I'm not thinking about his genre, his dynasty, his era of kids. I'm thinking of this, like his he took over the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

That's fine, but he's still part of the universe. He still shows up. Like, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's like he's still it's still part of his universe. So at any point Naruto comes in, people are gonna go in, watch it for him, and they're still gonna watch the show, anyways, because it's still a show.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Like it's still No, put it this way Bart Naruto hasn't showed up in the fucking manga at all, one bit. Not even a flashback to even look at him and say, ooh, let's give the Naruto fans something to read about and think about. He has not appeared one time.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

That's fine. But I'm saying is it's still part of the Naruto universe. It's not like it's been 200 years. Naruto's still alive, so he's still gonna show up. He's still gonna have his moments, people are still gonna go in for him. They're probably gonna stay for Baruch.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

What moments are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Like I'm just saying, he's gonna be like, Like you're saying moments of bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

You're acting like if JoJo, people who watch the season one of JoJo who liked the fucking first season of JoJo, and then the new season of Jojo now, people who watches JoJo now watches JoJo because they liked the first season of Jojo.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

That doesn't make no time lapse in between. He's not even the first original JoJo shows up in this one.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Like, if this is like there's no original people in this one, in the new one.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

That's what I'm talking about. I know, but I'm saying it's still part of the universe, it's still part of the same timeline. It's what 20 years in front? I mean, they're still all alive, like everybody's still chilling there. They probably don't show up, that's fine. But what that's what I'm saying, when they do show up, people are gonna go watch it because they showed up. That's just how it works. That's what happens with any legacy show. People still show up to watch the OG characters.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

That is fine if it's a legacy. The first Baruto, I will give you that. This one I won't because it's just like what legacy are you talking about? If we're talking about the first Baruto when they just threw every legacy character that we loved in our faces, I will agree with you. They're not throwing no legacy characters in this new one. So what legacy are you talking about? This is like Joker. We're like 36 chapters in three years in since this manga been announced. I haven't been one, what's it called, when uh they're trying to give you back to emotions of your childhood?

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Like a tease, like a teaser.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

I haven't got like I haven't got one tease or one blue bald from this anime from the old people, from the old series. Like, literally, I have not cared. Have I even seen Kakashi yet? I really don't even think I've seen Kakashi yet. And I really haven't even worked. I know.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Well, like he he's not no, like he's just there.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

No, he just shows up no three years.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

It's been three years. Yeah, you get one chapter per month. Yes, so that's what 12? No, like at 36 ago, 36. Sometimes they give us two, so it's kind of give or take.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

It's a give or take whenever he feels like it. And it's at his own pace. I don't care. It's at his own pace.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

No, of course, it's Kishimoto.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yeah, it's at his own pace. I don't care what he does. But I'm just telling you, three years into a manga, I've been telling you since the manga came out that it's good. Three years in, I haven't seen none of these legendary characters that blue ball you or sucker you in to go watch it again, like how they do with the other spin-offs like Inuyash's with his kids. Like, they haven't suckered me, they haven't done none of the suck it in yet with all the old characters. I think the only old character that's actually in the manga is um that guy. Oh Shikumaru.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

I completely blanked out on his name.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

Shikumaru. I think Shikumaru's honestly the only OG character because he's a Kage, right?

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Because he's like, you know.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Yeah, he's the main leader of the city. Yeah, so you like you kind of need him into the you need him to keep the plot going.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

So they're not even showing Kakashi.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

I really bro. I read, bro. I really don't remember even like no. I really don't. I don't remember Kakashi. They don't they talk about Sasuke, you don't hear, you don't see him. They talk about Naruto, don't see him, or hear from him. Like, no vision or no black store, none of that shit. Like, not even like I'm some old kid and just talk to Naruto type. None of that. I haven't seen I think I've seen Sakura, but for like one panel, one panel, and I haven't seen her since. And that's it, bro. Like, all the little blue balls and all that, like, oh, they're gonna bring all the old characters that you love so you can so they can crash the internet and keep the anime going, bro. 36 chapters, you ain't seen none of that. So that means a whole two seasons, you ain't gonna see none of the characters you're saying that they're gonna have to hold two guaranteed seasons by themselves with their with their aura or their momentum alone. And I'm telling you, there are. They're going to do they're going to do it. It is that fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

The second season of Varuto is most likely gonna be like 200 episodes, like minimum. Like 200 episodes. I'll probably give it like 150 minimum. Because it's gonna be a long series, most likely. I really doubt Kishimoto is just gonna make 100 chapters or even 50 chapters. Like it's gonna go for a while. It's definitely gonna go for some time. And I feel like through and through, they might not show up right now, but they'll definitely show up at some point. And like you said, even if they do carry the first two seasons, that's cool. But we are gonna get those classic characters back at some point. They're still part of the universe. It's just you can't have Vegeta carrying. You're gonna have Goku come back at some point. You know what I mean? They're still part of the universe. Even if they don't play a big role, they're still gonna be mentioned, they're still gonna have crucial moments where they're like, they were there or they were here or they did something or someone died. It's like it's just that's just what brings you in.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

That's what brung us in to watch Baruto and what happened.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Well, the season one, yeah. Well, that wasn't even Kishimoto, so you can't.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

But like but what every every statement you're saying right now is valid. If we're talking about the first season, what did they do? They brung us, they bring us to nostalgia by making Naruto, Sasuke, all the all of our OGs, the leader of Lee Village. They made them OP, they made them have their own platoons. It's all OG send off all your OG players are gonna watch that. I'm telling you right now, all of that shit don't apply for this. None of it. Because I really once we thought about it, and once you made me think about it for a second, I really thought about it. I was like, I don't, there's none of them. It's like good, it's like watching JoJo season one and then turning on JoJo again, and then you're on the last season of JoJo. Like, yes, those characters are mentioned because now they're like legendary characters like Jiraya, Minato. They're the foundation in the foundation, like Modera, like they're there because all these guys look up to them. Like they they like once you say Sasuke, they strike fear, but then they're like, oh wait, Sasuke's gone, you know. Fuck that shit. You're just him. You're like, fuck that. I just have like it's just like that's it. Like they're real, they're really not there.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

No, I mean, if they're not there right now, that's that's fair. I would say give it time. Because you never know, like with these type of legacy characters, they're always gonna come back at one point or the other. Even if they're not there right now, which is fair enough, they're probably gonna come back at some point.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

Like you can you can you can bite off the comeback at some point, and yes, I can give you that because yes, eventually they're probably gonna bring them back for like a like a final, finally moment, like what they did with Minato. But what I'm telling you right now, he's rolling like he runs the show that Baruto didn't exist. It's like if you're watching Naruto for the first time, but you knew all of Minato's backstory, but Minato ain't there. That's literally what I'm watching right now. I'm watching, I'm watching Minoto, Jirah, all them. They were all my legendary characters, sick as fuck. And then I'm just watching Naruto, and none all of them know their names, they just don't know what they did, but they're doing their own dope shit. Like Minoto's Minoto, nigga. But you're telling me we cared about Minoto when Naruto was exjet? We didn't care about him, but we knew we didn't know anything about it.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

But like the last, what, the last 20 episodes? No, like the last 50, 100 episodes. That's when we really found out.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Yeah, but they dropped they dropped Easter eggs, they dropped like little Easter eggs, Lord Forward. They was like saying that they dropped little Easter eggs of like in retrospect, it does make sense.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Like when you when you go back and you watch it, but to be fair, we knew absolutely zero. We knew squat up until he showed up. When was it during the pain arc, right? Yeah, when he finally pulled up. But before that, when you go back and you watch it, you're like, okay, wait, that that makes sense, or that's a moment that explains this to that. But in retrospect, 500 episodes in, and it makes no sense, and it finally adds up at the end, and it makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

No, but that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to get at. Like now we're watching when we watched Baruto the first one, we knew all the legendary characters, so all the kids did not like impress us. That's what I'm trying to get at. Like, when we watched Naruto the first time, did the kids impress us off the back? Like, did Naruto impress you? Did Sasuke impress you? Did all the kids of what they did watching the show, did they impress you to keep watching the show?

SPEAKER_02 10:07

I think the only cool ones were Sadura and that you can't say Sar it gotta be the first 10 episodes.

SPEAKER_03 10:14

The first like you wouldn't be a fan of a TV series if you did not watch. If you watch the first 10 episodes, you like the TV series. So in the first 10 episodes, when no one had sick powers, when they were doing basic jinjusu shit, when no one had a shot in gun, no one had a shadori, no one had a Razan gun. Did they impress you enough to keep watching the show?

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Snake Kid, the son of what's his name? Damn, what's his name, bro? Snake Kid. Yeah, the the the little kid that's the son-ish experiment of hot Hirochimaru? Hirochimaru, yeah, his son. When does he show up?

SPEAKER_03 10:52

That's Baruto. No, that's like episode one. That's like episode one or two. No, I'm talking about Naruto, though. Oh, Naruto. Naruto, in the first 10 episodes, did they impress you enough to keep watching the show?

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

But they were just doing running off the they ran, they ran through buildings and they didn't even know how to run up a tree, and they did one clone jutsu with a couple of cutscenes. That impressed you, right? But you didn't know the whole Naruto world. You just was introduced to a kid in a Naruto world. Now you're watching Baruto and you know the whole world and you're just starting over again. Obviously, I can see how there could be fatigue of just watching bullshit when you already were up there at the top of peak of Naruto shit. Like you didn't even know what a bro, you didn't even know how to move your fingers when the first episode of Naruto came out. When the first episode of Baruto came out, you knew how to do a ceiling jutsu and the exact hand signs. You can do the one-hand hand sign with that one girl who was just killing one dude who looked like a female who made me start questioning myself at the young age. All I'm saying is, bro, Baruto, when he first came out, I understand why a lot of older anime fans didn't like the show, but this new anime, he caught he caught up, and now he's doing the shit that you enjoyed watching of Naruto Shapuden that kept you on that hype stuff of Naruto. And it, I mean, should be good. Like, bruh, cinema.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

It should be good. I mean, they're probably they're obviously gonna get like now that they're coming back, they're definitely gonna get better animation than toward the end of Naruto. For like through and through, they're probably gonna get be a little more respected, especially now that Kishimoto is definitely putting both his foot down and actually carrying this story by himself now. Like, he's got the last say, he's got the first say, whatever he says go. So I feel like they definitely will get a little bit more of a little bit more of an approval and a little bit more of the the fans actually looking at it and being like, okay, we're we're cooking the same formula now. So we're slowly coming back, I guess, in a way. So it should be good. I'm I'm excited for it. You always say that it's pretty good, so I'm gonna give it a try when it comes back.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

It's not good, bro. It's fucking great. It's straight up Naruto, what it should have left off on, type of shit. Like, I can't even express to you what you're gonna watch. And all the like every time you talk shit, I just listen to it because I'm like, when the first episode comes out, you ain't gonna be able to say shit. When the second episode comes out, you're gonna look at me just regretfully sorry. And then when the third episode comes out, that's when your bullshit excuses come in and say, Forward to one was that bad, where how could I trust it? It is bro. I'm telling you, and if they adapt it right, dude, you're gonna see some sick ass jutsu.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Nobody's more excited than me to actually see this shit done properly, so let's go for that.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

All right, no, I'm just yeah, no, I just had to get it out there. I don't even know how this anime, I don't even know how this podcast started. I just got very triggered when you said that about barato, and I was like, yo, calm down because you don't even understand what barato means.

Weekend Check In And Bad Luck

SPEAKER_03 14:18

Well, now they're in the podcast and we're just up and rolling. What's up, Buck?

SPEAKER_02 14:22

What's up, Pops? How you doing?

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Pretty good, pretty good. Pretty heated though. You trying to get me mad before the podcast even starts.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

It got hot in here. It got hot in here. I don't know why I'm so heated right now.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Well, because I got that heater cranked all the way.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Most likely true.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

And now I'm heated up. So now I'm about to warm up with the heater and probably sweat it all out.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Yup, yup, me too.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

How was your weekend?

SPEAKER_02 14:41

It was good. How was your week? It was hot. It's got a little, I got a little warm the last couple of days. It's real hot in the day, real cold at night. It's just super bipolar. Hopefully, I don't get sick. My immune system always designs to act up around these times. But you know what I mean? Can't do nothing about it. You know what I mean? We live in the best state. You just gotta live with it, you gotta go with it. Now, did you have a good week or a bad week? It was a it was a midweek. I'll give it a five out of ten. Nothing crazy happened, nothing bad happened, nothing good happened. Just fly across the board.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

I had a terrible week. Tell me about your terrible fucking week. Terrible fucking week, bro. I hit a park car. Oh with my work van. When was this? In front of my job. Bro.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

2026 BMW. That could have been your dream BMW, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

The whole side. Ooh. I walked right up to my boss and said, yo, I'm not even gonna lie to you. I'm not even gonna lie to you, bro. I did that shit. I was thinking for like five seconds, like while while it happened, this is what I swear. This is like if my boss ever listens to this podcast, this is what uh this is my mind in the first one minute when it happened. Drive away, go put gas in my car, go wash my car, tell him I'm gonna go do something for 30 minutes, wait until that car leaves, come back, he asked if anyone hit a BMW, and I was gonna say I was gone the whole time. But then I realized Was there proof? There was no way that shit was gonna work because it was in front of the fucking work zone. The camera was right in front of it. I was gonna say you're gonna check the cameras and you're gonna see a black man look at a BMW, get in a work vehicle, and drive away. So I walked right up to my boys. I walked up right up to my boss and said, yo, I did that shit. He's gonna come out, he's gonna be mad, you're gonna have to figure out how we're gonna figure this out, and I hope I didn't lose my job. Damn. Maybe it's like a 50-50. It's actually a 25.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Maybe a 15. Damn, bro. Maybe a 10.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

I'm so sorry. I know. That's a terrible week. It happened today. Like today. Like out. Yeah, today. Going into the weekend is crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

You see how I don't bring my real life personality into work. I come to work. But yes, I am stressing out. That all happened today. I didn't even have time to smoke a joint and coke. All I got is like my pens and they're all out. Like, I need I need more. I kind of want to make an Uber run and go grab some grass. Yeah, grass. Grass, that's about the word.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Mary Jane can wait. You can go after. Let's get this. Let's do this podcast and then you can go do whatever you want. But dude, that's damn. I'm so sorry, bro. That's that's ridiculous. I mean, that's just crazy. That's just what a crazy day.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

I won't even lie. If we finish before 10 o'clock, I want you to drive me to the club. I need weed. How far? Two miles.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Alright, I'll drive you there and then leave you there so you can get over home. No. Well, which one do you want? You get one. I only get one? You get one. Pick. Drive you home. Or you get your Mary. I'll take the Mary.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

I'll figure the rest out later. Nah, I'll still drive you home and figure the rest out later, buddy. You know, if we're choosing, bro, we know what we're choosing. Mary Jack.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Hey! Wherever my job. She makes me feel okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Alright, hold on, calm down. We're gonna we might get copyrighted after three seconds. But yeah, nah. Yeah, nah. My weekend was a fucking bro. My week was great until then, bro. I made pancakes for the job. No, I won't even lie. Came in early. I came in earlier than I had to for work just to make everyone pancakes. Today. You might have earned a couple points with that. I made and then I hit a BMW that costs almost $126,000.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Lost a lot of points with that. You'll be alright. I have a good feeling in my heart. You won't lose it.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Is that because it's me or is that because you have a feeling? I would say like if it's me, then I feel better. But if it's because you have a feeling, I feel terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

Like, absolutely feel like I should go apply for a new job the second we finish this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

That's crazy. I think it's because it's you.

unknown 19:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

I think you'll be alright.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

I feel way better. You like the like it all flowed out. Like, right when you said it was that, it all flowed out. But dude, yeah, no, my week is crazy. But yeah, no, now I'm here to podcast. Now we're gonna go crazy. This was a crazy ass week. Honestly, honestly, the main topic is the main topic is what we

One Piece’s Two Year Takeover

SPEAKER_03 20:18

really gonna talk about. But honestly, One Piece got One Piece has been going crazy this whole like last 10 years. No, it's not even the last 10 years because like it was in the background. Because I'm gonna give it to One Piece fans. I love One Piece. Like, y'all already know this. If y'all been watching the podcast, I love One Piece. But One Piece for the last two years has been on his like who am I like who am I talking? Cause like when when it was when it was Naruto and One Piece and they were airing, One Piece was just cruising, doing his own thing. When Naruto ended, it was still cruising, doing some crazy stuff, but still doing his own thing. And then when this new jink generation came in, it just like out of nowhere, it just said, Yeah, you don't know who I am. Like it's right when this new generation came in, all of a sudden we're getting way crazier fights, way better CGI.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

Bro, imagine if Naruto and One Piece were rolling at the same time with the new generation numbers added.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Well, to the to be fair, that's gonna happen this year.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

But like, it doesn't compare, you know what I mean? Like, we're gonna get what four episodes of Naruto. I'm talking about for years we're going toe-to-toe.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

Yeah, but that also that also doesn't count because that's just a whole different generation. That was a whole different time apps. It doesn't count. Like the what the big three, what they did, it is on a such a different level that we can never like rate it. We can we could we can dream it.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Like, imagine no no, I'm saying, like, hypothetically, if Naruto and One Piece were rolling. In this new era, with the amount of exposure, with the amount of new fans, with the amount of money being thrown around at these animation, big animes, I feel like that would be such a crazy moment because we'll have two longevity heavy powerhouse animes going week to week back and forth all the time. Now, me, I'm still rolling with Naruto, obviously, but One Piece, bro, this last two years for One Piece have been legendary. They've been doing things that nobody has ever even dreamed they could do.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

Yeah, like to be fair, to be fair, like what they've been doing is honestly crazy, bro. When you really think about it, you have the longest anime in history, you have a live action TV show that's doing numbers, you have a remake of your original series that's not even overcoming out, and you also just hit 600 million copies sold of your One Piece manga surpassing Superman. So, like, like let me let me say that one more time 600 million copies and surpassed Superman. So that's a different type of level of what like One Piece is doing in the last two years. 10 years you were always here, but in the last two years, I don't know who told you Oda, I don't know who got under your skin, but someone said you ain't shit. Someone had to say that, right? Oh no, no, no, no. Someone really came up to Oda maybe in 2019 and said you ain't shit. There is a new generation coming, and he said, Fuck that.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

I think it was just destiny, you know what I mean? Like Naruto was gone, bleach was gone, One Piece was the last of the of the big guard of the big three, still continuously going. And as we kept going forward, the story got better. The fan base expanded even before the blow up. The fan base was already getting much bigger, and they were starting to promote the anime more, recommend it more. So I feel like it was just destined to happen like this. Had Naruto been here, I feel like it would have gone through the same phase. But Bleach was the last guard, it's the last of that generation to be consistently, not like oh, one season per year. No, like we're talking week by week by week, consistent for years. So I feel like it was just a buildup, and then once it did explode, obviously we got to witness it firsthand. Because there's no big three to combat it, or there, or there's no big three to compete with it. It's just one piece and everybody else. That's just how we are right now.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

No, I won't even let you say that. That's some blasphemy shit. Because JJK is holding his own.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

No, but I'm I'm not talking about this, like all these small ones. I'm talking about like big animes.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

JK.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

No, no, in the sense of like size. I'm not saying I'm not saying popularity-wise. I'm saying in anime size, like the big three. Those were enormous animes, like episode amounts. They were huge. Talking like 300, 400 each anime. And then One Piece is at like a thousand four hundred now.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

Black Clover.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Is what like 200 episodes? 122. Yeah, that's not it's big, but it's not like that. It doesn't have that old guard.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

I don't think that counts though. Because even if you want to like hear me out. I would let you say that if One Piece didn't cave. Because is One Piece weekly now?

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Well, it's gonna be now, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

No?

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Well, not well, it's every other week now.

SPEAKER_03 25:35

If every if I go on this Friday or next Friday, is One Piece about to is One Piece gonna show up?

SPEAKER_02 25:41

No, I think they're gonna Am I gonna watch an episode? I think they hit uh every other week now, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:45

So no, it's not weekly, it is now season, though. Yeah, so now so now you are now a seasonal anime. Now you're only gonna be partly shown, 28 episodes, 26 episodes, and now you just are now in the new era. There's you had a great run.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

25 years.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

I don't care. Like you had a great run. I love you, One Piece, but the weekly show is what carried you, and now you realize that like you're losing money doing the weekly shows, and you're that popular enough where you don't need to do the weekly shows no more, so you decided to go seasonal. And I don't blame you for that. I'm just saying that don't act like just because you have a thousand episodes, you're the best. You're the best because you have the best story, side stories, best characters, all of that, and you kept everyone entertained for 25 years. We can go to Law and Order. Can Law and Order keep me entertained? They have a thousand episodes. I think it's a good thing. Can the Simpsons keep me entertained and care about every character? Maybe it's you know, it's the Simpsons, but not like not where I'm gonna cry if one of them die.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Well, that's the formula One Piece has, though. Like, you know what I mean? Every every five years or so, the story changes because we get out of New York and it gets better because new mysteries are discovered. So we're still in a we've been in a very long path for a very long time, and we're finally hitting the age where we're getting answers. And some of the mysteries that we've always cared about are being revealed. And I feel like stuff like that really hypes up the lore and the world building of One Piece as a whole. A lot of shows they give you answers real early, like they don't wait this long.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

Like, just to prove my statement, he's making a whole remake to shorten the whole story of One Piece, which proves my statement that he had to do weeklies, that they wanted weeklies, that there was no, there was like like there wasn't no hey, I want to turn seasonal because it will be better for the anime and better for the anime pacing. No, it was yo, we need One Piece every week, we need a manga cover every week. That was a mandatory thing, but now I I'm gonna say it again in 2019. Someone said, Oda, you ain't shit, and a flip switched, and when this flip switched, we got crazy anime, crazy fucking bro. He worked himself so hard he had to go have eye surgery. So that's what I'm telling you. Like what he did, I was like, yeah, I was watching it and I'm like, someone pissed this man off because there's no way that you were just chilling, doing your regular casual thing, like we were chilling, we weren't doing shit, and then all of a sudden, right after the Dress Rosa arc, you just decided to turn up a notch. The Dress Rosa arc is a great arc, but even though after that arc it was still pretty much one piece, it was after you left that arc and went after that. Yo, he flipped a switch. He flipped a real crazy switch in the anime, in the character fighting, and everything, bro. He flipped it so much that when he had time, he went back to the first season with uh mermaid princess and reanimated. Someone pissed him off.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

I want to say that's all just toy animation doing toy animation things. Like, because because mango manga was the what's the what's the anime anime that does it? Nobody, bro. It's nobody's this size either.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

But no, you're saying nobody like oh, nobody because One Piece is the only one that can do it. That is false. Naruto can do it, Dragon Ball Z can do it, Bleach can do it. There's a lot of animes that are big with big companies backing them that can redo it and remake their anime and make some money. I'm talking about what kind of ego do you need to have to have a live action, a one piece story that's not even finished yet, a remake that's in development, and just said, fuck it. Let me reanimate this one season real quick. Inside of a show that's already about to have a spin off of the like like are we am I am I going crazy? Am I saying saying crazy shit right now? Am I look bruh? He looks like he's pissed, and he looked like someone pissed this man off.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

But he's so big though. Like, who could even I don't know he could even nobody nobody could really put bro you tell me? I'm saying is the circumstances around One Piece just were it was destined to be this way because One Piece outlasted the big three, right? At least bleach when it was going consistently, like week by week by week. Okay, then it stopped because it got rushed, and then it came back many, many years later. But One Piece went through that era, it outlived the big three, it lived through COVID, it lived through the new era of the new generation. The fan base exploded 10 times. Now it's at this level where it's so massive that you can literally do anything you want with it. You can have spin-offs, you can do separate shows from they really did that. You know what I mean? They did a movie, they did all this stuff. So it it managed to outlive and it managed to hit that part where it went from oh, you're just an anime, to now you're you're the anime, you're the biggest one of them all. And we can go back in time and make the first 100 episodes and remaster them and make them better because you're that big, like you're just so massive that we can't. Nobody else really can.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

I understand what you're saying, but understand what I'm saying. Everything that you're saying, can Dragon Ball Z do it? Yeah, everything you're saying, can Naruto do it?

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Everybody, all the big ones can.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

Okay, now tell me who is still going and writing their shit? Who is still making a manga? Who is still making an anime? Who is still production a live action movie? Who's still production a live action show?

SPEAKER_02 32:06

That's a whole thing, too. They're trying to make fucking live action movies of all these animes. That's what I'm failing, but they're trying.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

But that's what I'm saying. Like, look at look at all of the side missions he's doing, and then he also did that little like that little that little thing made me think about it for a second. I was like, this nigga's mad. He's mad. There's nothing, there's no other, there's no other reason why you're doing this. There's no other reason why you're going so hard. Like, let's think about this right now. The man got 600 million copies sold, right? While he did that, he said, Alright, I will finally tell y'all and give y'all a hint of where the one piece is. And he wrote it down on a paper, did a whole trailer music. When name the last time Oda let us see his body like this. Let us let let us watch him write something down, then let us see him put the one piece note in the water and thanking the fans for the one 60 600 million copies sold and the and the one piece is real. And now you have people in real life on boats, on their phones, on the computers, looking for the one piece. Yeah, no, no, no. Listen to what I'm saying, bruh. It's been 25 years in the making. The man has been cruising since Naruto Bleach seasons. When it was the Big Three era, the man was cruising and just writing weekly mangas. Look at what he's doing right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

Yeah, no, that's probably what the man That is probably one of the coolest promotional stunts you can pull. Like that, that that was so dope that nobody could really even have the resources to well. Actually, I'm lying. Because a lot of animes could do it if they really wanted to. But One Piece is so big that something like this is fitting for it. It's not extra, it's not less, it's just it's perfect, it's awesome. It all makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

No, but no, it doesn't make sense because bro, this man kept it so secret that only your wife knew, your wife knew, go wish me, kid knew because that was his only wish when he was having cancer. Imagine having cancer, and that's the only thing you wanting to know. And then one editor that needs to edit for that scene. That's it. He didn't tell a soul for 25 years, and now all of a sudden, after 2019, bro's been popping his shit like no tomorrow. Am I wrong? This has been the most we've seen of Oda in years, like in since 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023, 2024, 2025. This whole 2020 era, bro. Oda has not been playing around.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Yeah, no, I mean, we're international now.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

We've been international, we've been on the screens, we've been on your television, bro. The man got 13 movies of one show. I'm just saying, brother. It's honestly insane how much that like I know Oda's mad. Oda's mad. Like, y'all, no one can tell me right now that Oda is not on a tier of revenge of some reason. I don't even know why he's mad.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

I I would feel like he's motivated, especially with his new generation animes.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Fuck motivation.

SPEAKER_02 35:40

No, that's what I'm saying, though.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Like, why would you say all these guys are inspired by you?

SPEAKER_02 35:45

You know what I mean? Like, nobody inspired who inspired you? The god of Dragon Ball. He's the one that inspired you to be here, right? You inspired all these new generations, whether they like it or not. You inspired all of them. I feel like for him being the old guard, he's motivated because he's looking at all these young guys and he's seeing what everybody's doing, and he's like, okay, that's cool. Just don't forget that I'm here. And don't forget that if I really wanted to, I could turn this story from uh from a 9 to a 12 overnight. But he wants to keep it going smooth because he's got a sail and he's gotta hit that last island.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Like, let's put it this way, bro. You watched One Piece, right? Yeah, you watched all of One Piece, right? Committed?

SPEAKER_02 36:27

I'm I'm a little bit I'm a little behind, but I'm I read the manga, so I'm fairly caught up.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

Right when he they touched down on Wano, no, not even Wano, right when they touched down on Whole Cake Island, didn't it feel like, even though he he already wrote it in the manga, but didn't it feel like everything turned up on the notch?

SPEAKER_02 36:49

I just think that Dress Rosa was such a bad pacing that I feel like if they toned down on the pacing, you definitely felt it more true.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

No, Dress Rosa was great. No, no, no, it was great. I'm just saying was bad. I felt like the pacing was, I think it should have been faster. It got dragged, it got dragged a little bit, but I think like the pacing was fast as like how we talk, like hear me out. We didn't know how long Wano and whole cake was. So compared to that, you know, it went smoother. The pacing was pretty damn fast if we're comparing, bro. I was dying. I just think Dros Rosa was too long. How Luffy looked like under that tree. That's how I was looking for a minute, bro. I was dying. So I'm just saying he he picked up the pace, and I'm just saying someone in 2019 or in 2020 went up to Oda, said, Yo, these are the new kids on the block. You're done. Wrap it up. I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Even hypothetically, I couldn't see it. You know what I mean? Like, like, like I said, I will give you the fact that I feel like he's motivated, and I feel like this really brought up a spark in him. He probably hasn't felt since the big three, which is why we're doing, we have so much coming out.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

It's just unbelievable. I just I just cannot believe it. He's just going crazy. Like, like, to the point he's leading the charge,

Manga Versus Comics And Sales Wars

SPEAKER_03 38:09

right? He's leading the charge right now. Manga versus comics. Like, manga versus comics is now a topic. Like, who's more popular now? Is it pop is it comics? Is Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man? Are they all the popular ones now? Or is it the mangas? Is it solo JJK, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach? Like, who are now who is the better, who's the better comics now? This is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

I feel like I feel like manga definitely got more weight on it now. Because every manga that does, well, not every manga, right? I'm lying, but a lot of mangas that do come out, they get turned into a show or they get turned into a movie, they become an IP versus the comics, which some when they're making a movie or a show, they decide to take some ideas of every comic and kind of mash them together. That's really what they do. Even with the live action movies, they take little concepts and ideas. But with the mangas, they're definitely just grabbing a whole manga and animate it the most they can. So I feel like manga is definitely has the higher ground right now.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

I'm gonna tell you right now, you are wrong. Manga, you're doing great. You're getting a lot of younger people to read a book, you're getting a lot of people to read manga and anime, and I love it. Even foreign mangas, what are they called? Manwa?

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Mangwa, you have Japanese, Korean, Chinese, all of them.

SPEAKER_03 39:29

Read them all. But what I'm telling you right now is comics ain't gonna get taken down until anime becomes as big as comics. And what I mean like that is even though Narutel, Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, they're all big, they're big because of TV shows and longevity and having kids grow up and telling their kids to watch it. When I'm telling you how you gotta be like there has to be a movie that comes out, like a one-off movie, like Demon Slayer example, it has to be a Demon Slayer movie, Demon Slayer numbers, Demon Slayer hype, and it only was a movie, and then you keep doing movies only for that manga, and then you like that's when you know you are as big as a comic. Like comic books are so big that they kind of just skip TV shows. They're like, they don't like you have to get their C-list comic book heroes to get a TV show. All the A-list and B list comic book heroes, they all go straight to the movie theaters because they make the big bucks. Cap, Black Panther, they all make the big bucks. Like, let's put it this way. I'm gonna put it this way right now. All the big mangas, I mean, all the big animes you can name. You can only name a character that literally doesn't have a show, doesn't have a doesn't have a show, doesn't have a movie, only has a only has a manga, and he sells everything. He is the number one sold everywhere, and he has he has statues, he has little, he has little like what's it called, toy figures, action figures named after him, and he doesn't even have a TV show or a movie. Do you have anyone in manga for that?

SPEAKER_02 41:28

I feel like Dragon B will probably be the closest. Well, because the way I see it is Dragon Ball.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

No, no, like they can't have a TV show.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Oh, like straight up off the ground.

SPEAKER_03 41:40

Straight up off the ground. There can't be a TV show, there can't be a movie, there can't be nothing. You have to seen it on a book and say this guy is crazy and he has a toy after him.

SPEAKER_02 41:50

I don't I don't think manga's there yet. Like, for example, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

They're not there yet, they're not in the conversation yet.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Well, I feel like they're definitely in the conversation. They're in the conversation. We're talking about history, right? Okay, Superman is 600 million deep. How long has it taken them? 88 years.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

But that was a but that was at a time where like superheroes and manga was not even recognized by anybody. Like, but we're also talking about that. At that time, anime was considered a freaking joke, and comic books were just a joke, but they got recognition.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

Comic books have had shows, have had acclaimed movies, have had animated shows, everything. We're talking, we're not talking about the last 20 years. No, we're talking about since the 80s, since the 70s, right? So it's it's taken Superman, who's the biggest superhero in the comic universe, yeah, to get that far 88 years. Now we're talking about One Piece, who so far is a standalone, meaning it's one consistent story, it's not sprouted into different universe, it's taken them 28 years. Now, I think the closest thing we can think of is Dragon Ball, because Dragon Ball has come out, it's finished its main story, and it's moved on to side stories. But One Piece, even though it's so much younger, it's managed to accomplish so much that even the comic universe has to be put on its toes and be like, okay, they're slowly catching up. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but within 10 years' time, they're definitely gonna be hitting numbers that comic books have taken a hundred years to hit.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

No, because let's put it this way comics been out for 88 years, right? Anime's been out for how long?

SPEAKER_02 43:35

Since like the 50s, but not at this level. Okay, so since the 50s or even earlier from the black and white era.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

So 30s. We'll say 30s or 50s. I honestly don't know. You can fact check, I don't care. But if we're putting at that all of the time that they were animated and anime was a thing, we're not counting that. So we're not counting any of the times when they were out because Dragon Ball came out in what the 70s, the 80s, 80s, early 80s 80s, 70s, doo-doo doo, boo boo boom. They all got counted in one piece. I'm giving it up to One Piece. They got 600 million copies, but you did it off of hype. Like, let's be real. You're talking about Superman. You know Superman. I know Superman. We all watch the Superman movies, right? We live in the 21st century where we have tablets, devices, and everything to read the comments. These guys were going to a cop comic book store paying one penny and buying these comic books and bringing them to school to read at the lunch table. That is a different generation of like viewers. So that means those numbers ain't right. And those whole in that whole generation, 10 to 20 years when Superman was on top, all of those numbers ain't right because everyone had to go to a comic book store. And I'm pretty sure if I have a comic book and you like comics like me, and I have an old comic that you haven't read yet, you don't think I'm gonna just give you the comic book and let you read it? So you're a fan of the comic book, but you didn't buy it, but you're a fan.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

But we can also read One Piece online if we want to. We don't have to have a hard coffee.

SPEAKER_03 45:24

But that's what I'm saying. You can read it online now, but there's also easier ways to access online views and online registration and online watch.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

Okay, but given that point, the fact that we've managed to reach this far and in the span of 30 years. It's a little bit of embarrassing. So it's a little embarrassing. It's crazy. I mean, it's it's definitely putting comics like it.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

All it is is just telling me that you finally caught up and you're at the 70 years, you're at the 70 year you're no, what 80 years, right? So you're at the 55 year timeline of Superman. You have your hero, you have your hero that's gonna lead you up to charge to the big scenes, you have your little superstars like Gojo, JJK, all of them that can lead you up to the top, but now you need to find another team that can make movies and become mainstream, mainstream where you're not touching TV show profit, you're touching movie profit. And

Why Standalone Anime Films Struggle

SPEAKER_03 46:28

let's ask Demon Slayer. Hey, Demon Slayer, is movie profit better than TV profit? Damn right, buddy. If you want to tell them, you want me to tell why? Because they're going back to back to the theaters, they're not bringing you no shows on an app, they're not bringing you no shows anywhere because they know you're gonna just pirate it or you're gonna watch it and they lose money because that's all they pay. They pay for views, so you're gonna they're losing money even though they know that they're gonna hit millions the second that they put it on the app. That's what I'm telling you, bro. They're close, they're not there yet. One piece, shout out, you are the sh you're gonna be like the I feel like we need consistent IPs, like Dragon Ball. No, you need you need movie IPs, bro. You don't need TV shows.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

That's fine, but like TV shows on the long term, they definitely give you more to dig into. They make a fan out of you because a one-alone movie will make you a fan for life. Yeah, but a show would make you a fan for all time. Like you would dig into a show, come back and watch the show within a couple of years. A movie, it might take you a couple of years as well, but I feel like a show you have so much more to dig deep into.

SPEAKER_03 47:38

That's for the fans just to dig deep into. I'm talking about money prospects. No, I mean that's fine, but like money prospects, we're talking about Disney Man is a multi-billion dollar IP.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 47:50

I could go anywhere. Star Wars. Star Wars started off of as a movie, and when it first started, it was a nerd movie that no one liked. What is it now? A global fucking empire run by Disney and now got taken over. Like, that's what I'm telling you. You can have a TV show, you ain't making money, money. You're making loyal fans off the TV show, you're selling merch off the TV show, but you ain't making money, money off the TV show. You make money, money off of the movies. Why don't you think you get a lot of Iron Man TV shows, a lot of Hawk TV shows, Black Panther TV shows, Captain America TV shows? Those are movie characters because they know once those shows, once those characters are on a television screen, they're losing money. Straight up, that is a straight up fact. You need movie characters, you need a movie arc of anime to carry you. All these guys right now, pretty much Naruto. I mean, uh, One Piece is Batman. One Piece right now is Batman. He could just control the TV arc. Anytime you put one piece on, he's taking over the TV arc. Anytime you put a Batman, any Batman show, name one, they took over. Every single Batman show took over. Superman just takes over the movies, Spider-Man takes over the movies, Green Land takes over the TV shows. You need a TV, you need a movie anime character that was movie born. All these side characters were movie born. The main character was movie born, and it became a big series that got crazy hype. Like Doom. I don't even fucking like Doom. You like Doom. Why do you like Doom? There's only two movies. You shouldn't know the characters that well. Doom is cool. Oh, I don't know why. What's what's the hype about it? Why do you love it so much? Why do you want to go watch the third one? It's only two movies, man. You have to pay to watch it. You like watching a TV show is free. You can love a TV show. Why are you going to pay to watch a third movie?

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Good point. No, no, that's a fair point. I mean, I just think a show would definitely, if you want to build something, I think a show would give you 100. That's why we have to do it.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

That's why we do it all these years. That's why Goku exists. That's why Naruto exists. That's why One Piece exists. They build us. Now we need to get to the movies, bro. Demon Slayer showed us the way.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

And theaters are dying. No, no, I'm saying. And theaters are dying. But no, we just great anime movies.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

They just never see theaters. Like Silent Voice is a great anime movie. Like, there's great anime movies that just stare along.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

Like so much money to be made, bro. Just bring us what we want, and we're gonna show up, right? Like, that's how it works, supply and demand. But I don't know. I feel like there's still people in some aspects.

SPEAKER_03 50:45

It's harder because, like, like think of this. You're you're a hater, right? You hate on everything. So imagine if they poured millions of dollars into an anime, into an anime that you've never seen before, never heard before, never even witnessed before, and they gave you only a trailer and you know it's only a movie. Are you watching it? Automatically.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

It's not something like Studio Ghibli can pull it off, but that's because they've got time. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Studio Studio Ghibli, like the big anime, like Ghibli, Moppa, they're all gonna be able to pull it off. That's that's a guaranteed. I'm talking about you as an anime watcher, even though if one of those are hosting it, you don't know this character, you don't know what's happening, you're just watching the trailer, and it's an anime movie, only in movies. Are you automatically gonna say, yo, are we watching this?

SPEAKER_02 51:40

But that's like with any movie though. Like if a trailer's good, you might have a good movie, right? But if a trailer's bad, you might have a bad movie. That's what the trailer gives you.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

No, that's movie talk. I'm talking about anime hopping into the scene. If there's an anime movie out and there's a movie trailer out, which one are you picking first in a group?

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Like, watch the trailer first and then go watch the movie, or what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 52:04

Yeah, like if you're in a group, you see there's movies out, none of the movies are off of a TV show, they're all just brand new movies that you never seen before. They're there's regular movies, action, horror, thriller, whatever. They're all live action, doo-do-do, regular ass movies. Fucking Chris Pratt's in one of them. And there's just one that says an anime movie that's an anime movie. That's it. That's all you know about it. Are you picking that anime movie?

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Well, if I don't have a trailer, probably not. But you have a trailer, you have a trailer, you're gonna go ahead and if the trailer looks good, I'm probably gonna watch it. Out of all the other movies, though, you're that's what I'm saying though. If a trailer looks good, you're gonna watch what the trailer shows you. Like if it's if it goes, it could be an action, it could be a comedy. Okay, let me put this way it could be a horror movie.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Let me put it this way. All the movie, all the movie decisions at that night, every single trailer looks good. The anime trailer looks good, the action movie looks good, the horror movie looks good, the thriller movie looks good, the mystery trailer looks good. Every single one looks good. You have to base off which one you want to watch that night right now. Which one are you picking?

SPEAKER_02 53:12

Whichever one looks best. It doesn't matter, bro. Like, yeah, they could all look good, but there's always one that looks better than the others. So that's what I'm telling you. Like, if the animated one looks really good, I'm gonna go watch that one.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

No, you're not, dude. There's no point of a trailer. No, you're not. You're dude. You're saying you're making it to a point where, oh, there's going to be a better one. I'm telling you, every single one looks good. There's not even.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

You know what I mean? Like, even hypothetical, that doesn't, it doesn't match because there's always one that looks better than the others. That's that's that's what trailers do.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

That's not that's not okay. How about if every other movie looks better except the anime one? But the anime one looks good.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

I'm gonna go watch the one that looks best.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

So you're gonna always pick the better one?

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Well, the one that catches my attention.

SPEAKER_03 53:53

Okay, so then you're never gonna pick the you're never gonna pick the off-brand anime one that you never seen. If you don't know the MC, if you're not even gonna give it a chance.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

If the trailer looks good and I'm I'm gonna I'm I'm I get something off me, I'm gonna go watch it. That's how I picks the movies. That's that's how whenever I go back.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

Okay, how many movies do you watch this year?

SPEAKER_02 54:13

So far, let's see. Whistle, that shit was garbage. And then Dead Man's Wire. That one was pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 54:20

And then just how many? I don't need to hear every single one.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

In the theaters, I've only seen like a handful. I haven't really been going lately.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

A handful of a handful of movies? All right, there's our there are five anime solo movie th movies that came out this year. Did you even attempt to watch any of the trailers to watch them to go to the theater?

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Which ones?

SPEAKER_03 54:39

I there were five random anime theater. I don't even remember all of them that came out, but there was five random anime ones that were just solo movies that came out in theaters. Did you watch or attempt to look at any of the trailers? No, I've been super busy.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

I've barely gone like once or twice to the theater.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

But you just said you saw a handful of hell handful of movies this year, right?

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

So if you saw a handful of movies this year, and you know that you did, and I told you that anime movies, there were five indie movies. Well, not indie, but they were just five movies that came out with solo films with no TV shows, just a movie, and you did not watch the trailer, you did not know about them, and you did not go see them. That's what I'm talking about. Even when Chainsaw Men the movie came out. Did you run to the theater?

SPEAKER_02 55:28

I wanted to, like I really wanted to, but I couldn't. I was super busy.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Okay, so you were super busy, but you wanted to run to the theater. Did you watch any movie? I think you watched a movie before you watched that one. I think there was a movie that you ran to the theater to watch, even though you were busy. That's a fact. Avatar. You watched Avatar 2 when Avatar 2 came out, and we were hella busy that month. I remember that month. We didn't even podcast a couple of times. That month we were dummy busy, and you still found time to make your way to the movie theater with your boy to watch Avatar 2. Great movie.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Avatar 3, probably, but yeah, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 56:08

Wait, no, it was Avatar 3. Oh, yeah, we're on the third one. Yeah, Avatar 3. Avatar 3. You made time to go watch that movie because you knew it was a good movie to watch. And the trailer was good. The trailer was excellent. Chainsaw trail chain saying Chainsaw Man's trailer for the movie was it good?

SPEAKER_00 56:27

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

It was it was excellent, right? Yeah, you didn't run to the theater like you did for the regular movie like Avatar 3. When Doom 3 comes out, I promise you, I don't care how busy we are, I bet you're gonna figure out a way to go watch that movie with your boy, with your movie, bro.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

Probably gonna have to go alone because that motherfucker hates Dune. He's just like you.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 56:49

Yeah, no, because he hates sci-fi, so every time we go, he's like, I don't want to watch a sci-fi. And I'm like, bro.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Yeah, nah. So I just sci-fi can't do it for me, bro. Like, I can watch I can watch Star Wars and other than that, now you can watch like the Predator movies, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:01

100%. Like that's dummy action, so that's that's funny. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

Yeah, yeah. Predator, alien, all that. It's just like doom doom talks too much. It's a bit the world building is kind of slow. They really do just talk about it. They talk way too much for me. That's all it is. But that's what I'm saying, bro. When you get when you get to this point when you're trying to talk, when you're talking about anime, when you're trying to talk about anime and what's it called? Anime and comics, there's a straight difference of movie theater go, bro. When you're ready to go watch a movie, it doesn't matter how busy you are, you're going to watch that movie. But when an anime movie comes out, you're really gonna just always like put it to the side, like it's important to you. You wanna watch it, you really die to watch it, but when it comes down to it, and it's Friday or Saturday night, it ain't gonna be the top of your list to try to go do. You have a other thousand things you'll rather go do than watch an anime movie, especially if it's a standalone. So anime ain't there yet. They're never they're not there yet, they're not gonna be there yet, they're gonna get there eventually, but they need a standalone person to be able to get your ass in a seat. Like how Doom and Avatar got your ass run into a seat, the same way anime gotta do it. Because I don't even think you were. Did you run to the theaters when Demon Slayer came out? I know I did. I love that. I know I did. I ran three times, dude.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

I've been I was for like three weeks, I was trying to make the time, but I couldn't go.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

Three weeks, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

I was I really wanted to go watch it so bad, but I was so busy.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

See, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, guys. When it comes to anime, like you it's just like it's there, but it's there. Like, but when the movies come out, I promise you you're gonna go watch those movies. I promise you. Every time when the blockbuster movie hits, you're turning it on, you're running to the theater, guaranteed. That's all I just all I wanted to say. I got on a heated bender about that one. That one really pissed me off.

Assassination Classroom News And Freren Bet

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Speaking of movies, did you hear the Assassination Classrooms game movie?

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Yes. About time. That franchise has been sleeping for too long. Way too long. But it's about time we we got we got a little action, especially from an anime that we even watched it. Yeah, long time ago. I have to rewatch it because it's been a minute, but yeah, that was that was a good one.

SPEAKER_03 59:27

Yeah. No, I like I like Assassination Classroom. I'm ready for the movie. We haven't got a trailer yet. We just heard there's a movie, so that's gonna take forever. Since like if it's this early, it's taking forever.

SPEAKER_02 59:37

We might get it by the end of the year. Anime moves quick.

SPEAKER_03 59:40

We'll find out. But the one thing is Farron still don't got a movie.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 59:45

See, that's the one thing. Farron will never be on this stage. That's the best part about all of this conversation. We can talk about JJK, we could talk about One Piece, we can even talk about Assassination Classroom. Farron ain't ever showing up on this stage, they will never make it to this stage. They will be a great TV show for all the youngins to watch.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

I feel like for Frere and it's kind of like they could if they wanted to, but I don't think they're doing it. Especially, especially them being this big right now. Never make the money. They're they're not putting out a movie. I don't, I just don't think it's in their agenda. Like, dude, season two is short. The first season was 24 episodes. Season two is eight episodes long. I feel like they're switching their priorities around. And movies, yeah, we can get it. Shit, Slime is giving me movies, Overlord's giving me movies. Like, low budget are not low budget, but like I'm talking about theater movies. Yeah, yeah, theater movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Theater.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

Yeah, slime gave me one. I watched it, it was pretty bad. Overlord gave me one. Overlord made it to the theaters? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

It was only like that movie was in a theater.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

It was it was only for like a couple weeks. It's they're still not up there. They're not gonna stay for months like Demon Slayer. They're only gonna be there for like a couple weeks if you get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Oh my god, if that over over that overlord did not deserve a movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

I I'm telling you, bro, I mean it's it's changing. You know what I mean? The way they're kind of pumping out these movies nowadays is changing. But for Frerean, I feel like their priorities are definitely on the show. If they're gonna give me a movie, that's cool. Like, I with that one, I don't really mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

I want to just say the greatest of the greatest animes of all time, all delivered movies. All of them. Dragon, Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, all of them. One Punch Man could have.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

Thank God they didn't.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:29

But I don't have to put them in this list because now they will never make this list. Yeah, now they're dead. But I'm just saying, Farron's on a different, you know, it's on a B tier stage. And I just want I just want you to finally recognize that Farron is a B tier anime.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

Bro, like I can tell you a lot of animes I love are B tier. Like, I can be honest about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Oh, yeah, animes you do love are B tier.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:52

Exactly. They're fun. Like, I that's why I like them, right? Because they're fun. But for something like Fraron, I do think they're prioritizing the show. Because when you watch the show, the quality is amazing for both seasons. Like JJK, you know what I mean? Season one was pretty good, season two got real freaking good. Season three is legendary. It's kind of the same thing that they're they're kind of figuring out what's important and what they're not trying to bother with. And I feel like if they're working on a movie, I'll be happy. If not, I'll be happy too. I don't mind it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

Yeah. I'm gonna just let you know that will never happen. And if they do make a movie, I will go with you just to say that they like I will I will go with you, I will buy your ticket, we'll go to the AMC one. If they have a special popcorn for Farron, I'll buy the Farron popcorn bucket for you. I'll buy the poster for you. I'll do the You will get the whole Farron, you will be treated like a date. It will be treated like a straight up date if Farron ever gets a movie. Ever, ever in his life gets a movie. I promise you that. Well, I'm gonna tell you right now though, that is that will never fucking happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Probably not. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:01

I'm glad you like I said, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

Like it, I mean, you're not you're not making stupid ass points. Like they're good points. Like it's an anime this well, it's not even been in super long, but for the amount of hype it gets, uh, you know, yeah, you figured they have a movie, but they're taking their time.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

My hero got a movie, and that was a great fucking first movie. I'm telling you, all the good ones get a movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:26

All the good ones get a movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

I feel like they pick and choose. They don't depends on the studio. Like, I feel like it really depends on the studio.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:33

Wait, no, you're right. They do pick and choose. They pick and choose the great ones to get a fucking movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Studio asks for a movie so they get a movie. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:42

Fucking dead, dude.

Baki And The Missing Fighting Genre

SPEAKER_03 1:03:43

Oh, but bro, did you watch Baki yet?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

No, but I know it just came out. I'm super excited for that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:49

I watched half of the series. It is actually good. I love Baki, bro. Baki's Baki's a great fan fighting movie, and like not fighting movie. I keep thinking of movies now. Baki's a great episode TV show. Why the f okay? My brain is dying. My brain is dying now. Hey, bro, I hit a car. Leave me alone. Busy day. I know busy? I'm over here like this. On Monday, I'm fucked, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Overthinking it. Sheesh.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

I'm bro, I'm super overthinking it. But no, I love Baki. It's a great fighting show. It gets you ready for a pump if you want to work out. Like, it's a great way to make you on that working out spirit with watching Baki. What I was going to talk about while I was watching it this, like, while I was watching it this week and watching this new series, it came to my question. I was thinking of it in my head. There's not that many fighting. There's not that many like martial martial arts or like fighting animes. Like, there's a lot of street fighting animes like Windbreaker, Tokyo Revenger. Like those types of animes. Damn, there's only two. Damn, there's only two.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

Well, a lot, a lot of a lot of like little animes have like little aspects of fighting, but I I get your point. It's like a like a martial arts focused or martial or like boxing focused type of anime. Like a fighting focused. There's not really that many of them. I mean, a lot of the ones were from like the early 2010s or even previously.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:16

Which they need to bring back, like they need to bring back that dude who boxes. What's that guy's name? Himogeno Ipo or something like that. Yeah, Ipo or Himogeno Ippo. Like, I need a remake, remastered CGI, boxing, boxing, that one, bar for bar, word for word, maybe touch up the hair, and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:35

Yeah, no, I mean, we definitely need we we need there's so much potential for animes, bro. We need animes of different sports, we need animes of different like fighting, just martial arts. I feel like Baki sits in a very weird spot. Which is cool, but it's weird because it kind of fits where there's nobody really to carry that type of torch. Like you're the only one that's carrying that martial arts genre right now. Everybody else is just Sleeping or who knows what they're focused on fantasy action now.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

I know, but it's just like I don't think a lot of people read fighting mangas. That's why. I don't think that's why it doesn't get a lot of animes. Like you got a lot of tournament animes, and I get I can see how that's a good read. But like actual martial arts or boxing animes or sports anime manga, I don't think they're actually getting read.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:29

I feel like it's one of those weird spots where there's not enough, so it's not supplying enough to get people excited about. You know what I mean? Like it's this it's it's this endless loop where there's not enough of them, so not enough people are excited for it, so not enough being are are being made. So once they stoop is they do ramp it up, maybe that we'll get more hype about it. But right now it's just slowly moving around.

Isekai Fatigue And No Endings

SPEAKER_03 1:06:55

Nah, I just don't like it. I just don't like it, bro. It's just so stupid. Like, we have one anime for fighting, and then like that's it. Like everything else is like sci-fi, a freaking Isukai, bro. I swear this Izukai, this Izukai cash grab manga weak writing is the death of me. It's bad. No, it's not even like bro, Izukais are so much fun at the beginning. Now I'm over it. I'm so over it. I'm over every Izukai you can think of, bro. Overlord reincarnate as a slime, every single one you can think of. I don't know if Fate's a freaking Isukai, but Fate's actually a good anime. But every other Izukai, I am done, dude. It's just too much. It's it's all slime. It's the same fucking story every fucking time, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

No, I mean, especially, I mean, back in the day they used to be kind of interesting. Like, I feel like slime made it kind of at least it was likable enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

Overlord was different, and no, it was like overlord was different, but the worst part about that is that it started a trend that can't stop, bro. You kill a guy in another world, he shows up to another world, he's the most OP person there, there's no one that can beat him, and then what's the point at the end? This is the real question, and I have a real question for every person that watches a fucking Izukai. Do you know what happens when he finishes it? When the Izukai's over and the mission is done. Do they stay or leave? Have we have we got that answer off of any other Izukai except solo leveling? There's only one anime that gave me that answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:48

I don't even think if I've ever read one that actually has an ending. That's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like most of the ones I've really I've read or watched are not finished yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:58

That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know. Think about that. How many are there right now that you have watched, committed, and said this is a great Isukai, and then really thought about it. How does it end? Do they leave? Do they win? Do they beat a bad guy? Do they stay there forever? Does he have a kid? Does the kid take over? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:20

I think the problem is that a lot of isekai are actually light novels, and the light novels haven't been transferred to manga or to anime yet. That's the that's like one of the big things.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:31

But then I don't think I don't think y'all all deserve an anime no more, bro. I don't know everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

Everything's just slopped now. Like their dude, they made one, I think they're making one called reincarnated as a rib or some shit like that. Bro, on what on what planet does an isekai need to have such a first of all when I heard of when I heard reincarnated as a vending machine, I was done.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:54

That's so I love isekai, but that's so stupid. Everyone loves Isukai, bro. It's an isukai, it's like not that hard to fall in love with it. Every anime fan wishes that happens to them. But what I'm telling you is, can you give me an ending or a solid pacing? Like, bro, there ain't nothing. I don't even like put it this way the one Isukai that I actually respect, Overlord. What's the ending?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

We're not even I think we're like halfway through the story, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:26

But like, what is the point of this?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

I I think the I think the light novel just finished this year or something like that, but they're still making more. I that's what I'm saying. I feel like most of them are light novels, so obviously I read manga, but I'm not reading the light novel, so I'm still so far behind, even though the light novel is probably finished. If I search it up, it gives you an ending, but there's no fun, right? There's no fun in being spoiled.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:50

Okay, let me tell you this right now. There's no fun in being spoiled. No one likes being spoiled. I'm not asking everyone just to start spoiling. I'm asking you right now, when you watched Naruto, what was what was the reason why Naruto was doing everything he did?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

To become a cogging.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:05

When you was watching Luffy, what was Luffy doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:08

Pirate of the Kings.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

Fucking everyone, everyone had a goal that we can all watch and know why the fuck we're doing all this for. In each, every Izukai you watched, what is their goal?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:22

To live, to be dope, to explore the world, to exp dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:27

I swear to god, if I hear that fucking statement one more time out of a oh, I joined a new world. Let me explore. Oh, look at the grass. Is that a dragon? Oh my god. Bro, I mean every isekai has a fucking dragon or a girl that is a fucking dragon. One somehow, somehow, there's a fucking dragon.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:48

I think they just flooded the market. They just flooded the market with all this cheap ass, low quality, no not like all nonsense isekai animes now. Like, you do have some interesting ones, right? I I know people really like the jobless reincarnation. I I personally love Overlord, I love Shadow, I love and Slime. I think Slime's ending pretty soon, like a couple years or so. But like everything is so far behind, and all these animes have no ending, and then sometimes they get a season, but it comes down way down the line, so you kind of moved on to the next thing. But most of these new Isekais is all low quality, cheap as shit, just cash grabs, bro. It's terrible, and it's really flooding up the market and it's fucking ruining everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

Yeah, no, I don't I honestly personally don't like it. I just don't like like hear me out. I don't like the flooding of all the isukai's, but mostly I don't like it because none of them have a fucking story, none of them have a plot, and none of them have a goal. We honestly just need to stop watching izukai's and give the power back to just other animes, uh like any other anime. Y'all can pick any other anime to read, just stop reading Izukais, they're done. It's I'm just over it. I'm more of the fact of the matter is like, why are we just yeah? No, I'm spazzed out. I'm gonna stop right now. Just please stop watching Isukai's or just stop reading them. Let's calm it down, read only the dope ones, and then we can just watch that one and find an ending. If anyone can tell me an ending of the Izukai, I will shut the fuck up. But if you don't know why you're watching this show, this is stupid. Hell's Paradise, you at least know what you're watching. This, I don't know what the fuck I'm watching. That's just straight up the truth. I might as well have an AI fucking write the fucking show. I'm not even kidding about that. That brings me to my next thing.

AI Anime Clips And What Comes Next

SPEAKER_03 1:13:45

That brings me to the next thing. Freaking AI content, bro. Have you seen that AI stuff in the internet?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

Dude, it's it's getting it's getting scarily good. I'm not gonna lie to you, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:54

It's Did you think Boma was a super saiyan when you watched it? I thought Boma had super, I thought this was a trail. I was like, oh Boma's about to turn up. Boma about turn up.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

It's so lame, bro. Cause they could animate something like that. I know. And but they're not gonna, right? They're not gonna. So people are doing. You know how many jobs would be lost if that was the case? But it's like, dude, this AI thing is it's frustrating because you kind of see where it's going. Obviously, as as it evolves, people are kind of slowly being like, okay, you know, we know it's here, but we still want to see human animation. Like we still want to see your normal anime. But the thing is, these companies, you know how they do, they're gonna want to take the cheapest option.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:34

No, I think though they're those are fan, they're all fan-made. None of the companies are doing the AI yet, but after watching the fan-made one, like we could have Dragon Ball Z Super 2 here so faster, so quick. But to be fair, the AI ain't there yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:50

But in five years, look how fast it evolved in three. I know, right? And two, actually, like around there. So it's in two more years, it's gonna be so realistic, you're not gonna know the difference.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:01

Yeah, no, I'm I'm gonna be real with you. That's gonna be a fun, that's gonna be a fun one. I won't lie. That's gonna be a fun conversation. I I like I don't think AI should go. I think AI should help with filler animes, but like the real actual like you need to have like emotion in the drawing. I don't think AI should touch that. Like a non-emotion cutscene that like just takes 20 hours and no one really wants to draw it. Maybe we should have that be AI, but I think we're not gonna get the like pure like personal human touch on some of the scenes without it. It's gotta be a tool, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:47

It's not it's not something that replaces you, it's something that helps you. And I feel like right now it's obviously just starting. So people are feeling like it's gonna replace animation. But I do think give it time to calm down, settle down, find out where we really stand. It's just gonna really become a tool part of everybody's life.

GTA 6 Delays And Price Limits

SPEAKER_03 1:16:04

You know what? You know who needs that AI tool? You know who really needs that AI tool, and I won't be mad if they use it at this point. Freaking GTA 6. Because if that shit gets delayed again and I have to wait a whole nother year for GTA 6, I'm over it. No, I'm not. I'm lying to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

I'm gonna I'm gonna be very angry though. I'm not, I mean, I'm already super angry, but you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

I think everyone's angry at this point, but we all came to the decision that we're in an abusive relationship that we can't leave.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

It's toxic, bro. It's such a toxic relationship because you know what I want, and you're just you're not giving it to me, bro. I'm sorry. You you know you're gonna be able to do it. I think the craziest part is that we'll pay it.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:44

I think that's the craziest part that we will pay that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:48

Name the amount that you are ready to say that I will not pre-order. I would say, like you will buy it eventually. Yeah. But name the amount that they will have to charge you to say, okay, I might not be the first one playing the game.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

Like if it's the base game? Basic. 150. That's that's my cap. I'm not paying more than that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:11

God damn, they got you at a you are the cheapest man I know. And just that you said 150, they're gonna break you at two. That is crazy, bro. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

That's that's as high as I'm willing to go. I'm sorry, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

That's crazy, bro. They're really gonna break you if they say like I swear, if it says $200 for the base model, you're gonna get broke, and I'm just gonna look at this like they could have got me at $250. Bro, no, like, I will pay whatever. Dude, early access, I will pay whatever at this point. I mean, we all will, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, we $800, whatever. Put it on the credit card. Yo, what? No, that's put it on the credit card.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

I will wait for years. I will wait for years. I'm I'm sorry, bro. There is no game that deserves more than 200 bucks. No game. Hey, unless I'm going into the SAO world, I'm willing to pay a thousand for that. You might. Or GTA sort out online, you know what I mean? That connects, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:20

I'm I'm like, remember, they're they're trying to figure out how to put currency in the game for you to make money in real life. So honestly, it's an investment at this point.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:30

But we don't know that yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:31

We don't know that yet. But if that's if we did, but if we did, does 800 sound crazy? It does. If you knew if you knew you can make a dollar the first day you played the game. One dollar, if you knew you knew you could make one dollar the first day you hop on GTA, is it worth $800? That will be the first ever game in history that you played a game and made money.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:59

I mean, I don't know. I mean, I I could I could make money. Think about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:03

Like, that is crazy. I can make money. You can make money. So, like, that's when you start hitting over the cap.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:10

I'll give you some wigger room. I'll give you some wiggle room. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:13

That they're gonna catch you. They're not gonna like 200 is gonna be instant purchase, 300, instant purchase, 450. Can I make money? No, instant purchase. So when they start hitting to 800 is when you start saying maybe I need some money.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:35

I gotta think about this one. Let me let me think. Let me sit on this one. This is an investment now.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:40

Do I get stocks when I put it out on the payment?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:43

Bro, I better, bro. 800 bucks, I better.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

You better get some stocks, bro, if it's 800, bro. They're very like, I think their stocks ain't even 800, bro. What the fuck? Did

The Boys Hype And Final Wrap

SPEAKER_03 1:19:53

you watch that boys final season? The boys' final trailer?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:56

Yes, that looks good. Have you watched The Boys? I haven't yet. You haven't watched The Boys yet? No, I've uh I've always told myself I was gonna watch it, like, especially after the seasons came out. But then now, you know, the last season is coming out, and I'm like, I still haven't gotten it yet. But I'm excited though, Robin! But I'm excited, so I will watch it before the last season pops off. Just at least two, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:17

You gotta at least watch, bro. You gotta watch it. Like, there's not even you gotta at least watch one season. Now, there's so many different episodes that I want you to watch that are scattered throughout the whole series. Like, I can't like the first one I want you to watch is the mansion scene, and you can't even see that one until episode three, season three. Hmm, the mansion scene's so fucking great. You're gonna watch that and come back to me like that's what you wanted me to watch a hundred percent. Because you are definitely gonna be the guy that that happens to, which would be so funny, unless, but yeah, nah, you need to watch the boys. That is gonna be a great series. I can't go, I can't wait till the final season. I might even go re-watch the last season because the last season was really good. And go look can't get caught up, get ready for the final season. You ever watched what's it called? Supernatural? Yes, both of them are gonna be in this season. Yes, I saw that.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:18

It's all three of them, right? All right, it's gonna be Castell, Sam, and Dean.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:23

All three of them will be there. All three of them will be there. Different characters, but they'll all be in all goaded. So you need to watch the last season. That's the last thing I'm gonna leave you with. Any anime recommendations before I get to get out of here? Because I'm ready to go. Like, I have no more grass.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

I gotta I gotta go home and watch some Baki right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:40

So Oh yeah, Baki. Go watch some fucking Baki, bro. And that note, you on that note, you lead me into the greatest point of all time of the anime podcast where of the I'm just saying podcast. I suck my lips real quick. Watch some motherfucking anime. I love y'all. I'll catch y'all later. Watch like and comment and subscribe, whatever. Do the works. I'm out of here. I need some grass. Buck your mushroom fur until I get my BMW fix.