SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to another episode of the Stop Car Podcast, and this episode is miles away from where we normally are. We are in New Zealand. We haven't gone racing yet, so um it might be a bit different, my opinions that I chuck in to next week after we've done a meeting, but we're a few days well, we're one day before the meeting now, and I've spent a load of time here. I've met the boys, Will and Dylan, so we'll talk a bit about their racing, a bit about their journey, and hopefully they can give us a good insight into New Zealand stock cars. I've had a little bit since I've been here, but hopefully we can dig a bit more. Right, we've got Will Pilcher, mate, and then we've got Dylan from Triple R, Rob's Race Car and Repairs. Right, what we'll talk about when we first start, I'll talk about what I know about you guys, which isn't very much because I've only just met you. I've been here for a week now, and I've stayed with Will over on the coast. I've done a few days in the workshop here. No, I haven't done much, but we'll just talk about what I know. Will trying to earn my keep, that's what I'm trying to do. Right, Will, what I know. You started off in the mini stocks, and then you moved on, you've done a bit of non-contact racing, yeah, and then you've done a bit of stock cars, then back to TQs. Back to TQs, and then you've come back to the stock cars now, and you've sort of bought into the triple R to try and give yourself the best op best possible scenario, really, and stock cars.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah, you make that sound like I own half of all or something, but I don't. No, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yeah, you know, you've bought into what we've got here basically.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Oh yeah, I've bought into, I suppose, bought a car from a team.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yeah, basically instead of what you were doing before, which we'll get into. And then Dylan, you've raced from mini stocks as well. I know your old man raced Craig and your granddad's raced as well. Um, and I've seen pictures of your old workshop and now this workshop, which you now own, triple R, which is Rob's race cars and repairs, which you do complete new builds, turnkey packages, and then you've also got a load here that you haven't built, but you're also repairing. So yeah, we've got what you do, we've got a load of them at home as well. Break your women junior, you know. We've got Dave Polly in the F2s, um, Sam Owen, for instance, at Santec Traffication in the 1300s, and you're just one you do mainly stock cars, don't do any superstocks.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Stock cars, mainly stocks, yeah, superstock, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

Trailers and stuff, oh trailers as well, some very smart trailers as well. Which, if you watch the other videos from New Zealand, you've all been seeing these trailers, they're very smart, not like what we've got in the UK. Right, we'll start off with Will. Well, both of you actually, because we start off with Will. How did you come about to New Zealand Speedway is called over here, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yes, Speedway, yeah. So basically, my heritage of Speedway is I used to I was born in Marlborough and Blenheim, and then my dad he raced production saloons, so that's just like the car form, um, just a roll cage. Back then when he was racing, it was he had a B310 Datson um caged, painted on numbers by hand, you know, probably going racing for two or three hundred dollars. Um and then my uncle raced street stocks as well. So when I was growing up, we moved back to well, we moved to the coast when I was five. So growing up, we had um my uncle's street stock and stuff lived at home, and then so did my dad's production. So growing up it was just race cars in the shed. Then we moved to the coast, and my my father sold everything race car related, and then we found out there was a track in Greymouth, so yeah, sort of went up to that as much as we could um growing up, and as my parents could afford to do it, like to watch, you know, not never got back into racing, my old man, and yeah, that's how I sort of was brought up around it.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

So you was always around racing in Malcolm? Yeah, as far as I remember.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Yeah, so it wasn't like when we moved to the coast, I wasn't involved in it like what I was when my father was racing. So it was more going up and just watching the main race we would go and watch was King of the Coast. That was you know, growing up on the coast, that was the big meeting. That's the biggest one, that Greymouth. Yeah, it was massive back, yeah, back in the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

So then where'd it go from you then actually jumping into a mini stock?

SPEAKER_02 4:20

So financially, my family couldn't afford to go racing again. Um and then so I turned 16, was eligible to take a bank loan against my mum, well, not against my mum's name, but like as her as a guarantor. Yeah, yeah. So if you didn't pay it, she wouldn't pay it. Yeah, yeah. Bought a mini stock off my best mate at the time. Um and yeah, went racing for two and a half grand, bought a $300 trailer. I mean, at the time I was, you know, I was 16, I just turned 16. So I wasn't didn't race in I don't think I raced in youth. I might have done a couple of no, I did do a couple of meetings in youth mini stocks, so that's up to sixteen.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Mini stocks is up to sixteen, youth mini stocks and then mini stocks is Adult Mini Stocks is after that.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

You could be 60 years old and go and race youth. Same car, I like exactly what's the case. Exactly the same as pages, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So then well, not exactly the same as that, it was a lot different back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Especially for the price you pay.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

What are you saying? You can take that car to like Wood for Clean and a youth could drive it, and then an adult can drive it at the same end and steal the car. Yeah, they're not thinking different.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

They have that similar to what we got, the stock carts and micro F2s, they're called. Yeah, something like that, where they both do race on the same day. Sometimes they do the morning and then the afternoon for the adults and stuff like that. So you've moved into the you've done started straight away with the adult ones. Yeah, straight in. Not sure it was the best thing to do. Yeah, bank loan out of six days.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Oh I think for the first for the first three race cars of my or two race cars of my career, my racing career, as I'd say, uh, was not financially smart. Um I mean anything, I think speedway related is probably not financially smart, but um that one, yeah, so that one was yeah, we went, yeah, we went and raced, and I did I think I did like three years, and I think that's where I was that you paying for it yourself the whole time. Yeah, paying a loan back, yeah. And then um sponsors back then weren't really a thing. They were oh someone might have given me a tube for the tyre, or someone might have given me a bucket of house paint left over from their house and I painted the chassis, you know. It was bad. Like, if I bring some photos, you'll no I'll show you some photos. That's bad. Like my chassis was getting painted with a paintbrush every every meeting.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

But that says to me how much you actually did want to race. Oh, I was like as a 16-year-old to actually have the balls to go out there and be like, I'm gonna get a loan to go. Like that proves you didn't have the money at the time, but you were still going racing no matter what.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Doing it whatever I could, yeah. And then like I was the big I I feel like I was probably at the time the biggest Malcolm Natay fan in the world. I had every single poster that he released. I like and then still does. Still does, yeah. Yeah. Um and then I ended up like, you know, just yeah, I was I was pretty much obsessed with going racing. Um and then I never knew how I was gonna do it, and that's how it started, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

And then from then, after them three cars?

SPEAKER_02 7:08

After the three cars, uh I thought, yep, sweet. Um I actually I invested a bit of money into it. I got this is a real funny story, actually. I got a when I started my apprenticeship when I was 17, my electrical apprenticeship, um, I was granted five grand, five thousand New Zealand dollars from the government to go towards tools for an apprenticeship. Issue was I spent $5,000 on a Hartley mini stock engine and um and still didn't get the tools, so my old boss was real stoked about that. Um I keep telling him the tools I'd ordered. Yeah, they come in that they were they were never coming.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

He's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Yeah, so that's that's a yeah, it's a straight true story. Uh not many people know that, but put there put that motor in, um, did two meetings after that, sold it. And that came to Christchurch, actually. And a guy over here, Steve Parkle, ran it, and it went pretty much like must have been about two meetings after I sold it to him. He changed a few things, and that car went so fast. I'm pretty sure it won everything over here, like Canterbury Champs, everything. But I'm not saying that was my investment until it's probably his driving, you know, like it was good. Yeah, yeah. And then after that, um we had a break. Oh no, no, after that, sorry. Because you yeah, we upgraded. You was working in your apprenticeship. Yeah, I must have had a break for a wee bit, and then I thought, let's go. I think yeah, I did have a break, couple year break, and then went and done my started my apprenticeship. Thought, yep, I've done it once at two and a half, three grand business, uh not business loan, bank loan. And I thought, I want to do it again, but 30 grand. And went and um bought my yeah, bought my first TQ and enclosed trailer.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

So the TQ for all the UK viewers is more like a is it a midget?

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Yeah, like a three-quarter the size of a midget.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Yeah, so if anyone's watched the chili bowl or anything like that, that's a full blown minute. This is a three-quarter size.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Yeah, it runs a Suzuki motorbike road road bike engine. Yeah, and then everything's just yeah, shrunken down size.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Still like they're still pretty fast, like open wheel, open wheel, repairs anything, sideways, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Real cool for the young kids coming through. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, decided to buy one of those, and um yeah, again, real good financial decision. Um, and I ran the issue with that though is I ran as as best as I could, and at the time it was a good car, like it was a good car coming out of Auckland, and Auckland at the time was like the predominant open wheel track. Yeah, um so it was it was as you know as good as I could sort of get, and then I raced it, wrecked it, raced it, wrecked it.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Is that all on the South Island, all over South Island?

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Yeah, all over South Island. We went to Nelson a few times, um, come over to Canterbury a couple times and in Greymouth. Um we pretty much just raced with the spears that I had. Um and as those spears disappeared, they never got replaced. And the car just slowly went downhill, like not slowly, pretty fast, to be fair. Um, if anyone's involved in motorsport, they know that you've got to be sort of reinvesting to be competitive. So unfortunately that was the way it went. Um it was a great, you know, I did it and I still had time, like real good time, um, real enjoyable.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Were anything in it before the car went down?

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Um nothing like major. No, nothing. Um I won a few West Coast meetings and um we had a couple of uh I think we got a best peers meeting in Ruapuna where we finished second on the podium or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

But um So overall on domestic meetings, is it just points accumulated for the three races?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

That's the overall winning.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

It did no, it depends on what meeting it's for. Um and it also depends on what class, you know. Like so for like a meeting in the TQ for a best peers format, it was three races.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

And the points over. Points over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Open wheels more so two races, then that decides your grid for a feature.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Then you go for a 30 lap feature. You don't really have that in stock cars here.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

No, so what's the stock cars on a domestic meeting or most meetings then? Is it just a three?

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Well, yeah, point of three.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

Yeah, and then you go on pointer three, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

Right, and obviously it'll only be the top 24, top 30 to qualify for that fine if there's 60 cars in the hand. Yeah. And then it'll be whoever wins in that last race. But that's the GP style.

SPEAKER_03 11:44

Yeah, like a bloody.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. So it's different, slightly different for all different formats and racing. But the main stock car one is points over all three, unless it's a GP style. Yeah. Right. And then so moving on then, the TQ.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Yep, so yeah, yeah, pretty much run that to the ground as as and that was I sort of lost enjoyment because the you know, everyone's getting faster, everyone can afford to spend money on their cars, and um I also at that time was, you know, I was half like just about finishing my apprenticeship and trying to figure out which path I was going down in terms of you know, I think I I bought I'd bought my house by then as well. Well, I was going to buy a house, my first house, and then um I couldn't figure out which like it was just there was so much going on.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Um racing sort of wasn't really racing, it wasn't real well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Racing, you know, if I was good at that time, and like I'm not saying I'm good now, but like if I was good at that time, I would have been uh you know, probably giving it more. Um but just except you was doing normal life then. I was doing normal life, yeah. I had good support. What we all should be too. Yeah, I had real good support, but like in terms of you know, because the coast is small, you've seen it. So I was sort of always sort of raised on the coast, knowing that everyone knew that I did speedway. So everyone sort of thought it was stupid that I was putting all this money into that sport, you know. And then it is stupid, it is absolutely stupid, but you know, it's what I live and breathe and wish, you know, from from as long like as long back as I can remember, I just wished I could be a speedway, like a race car driver. Um, yeah, and so then we I think we sold it. Yeah, we s we we moved after it got to the point where I couldn't afford to keep doing it at a decent level at a decent level when decided to hang the boots up for a bit and do the mature thing and buy a house and finish off my apprenticeship and whatnot, and that's what we did, me and my partner.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

So and then obviously you've now got WPE electrical, yep. So then that started. Was you racing when you started that? Because running a business, I can imagine, and a race car at the same time starting a business and running a race car just doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

No, so finish something's gotta give. Yeah, finished my apprenticeship, and then obviously money was a little bit better, and then we yeah, we were so yeah, we finished sorry, finished our apprentice my apprenticeship, was in the house for a while, and then was trying to figure out what path we wanted to go down. Um so I worked with my last boss for nine years.

SPEAKER_04 14:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

So then we bought a oh, then we decided to do our own business, me and my partner. So we did that, um, started that, and then it was about two years later.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Right, so once the business started doing well, then it was time to then think about racing again. Yeah. You'd done the smart thing, cool house, yeah, got your business sorted, yeah, and then it's time to start thinking about racing again. Correct. It starts creeping back in, right? Hang on a minute, we're actually doing alright now. What was I doing before we was doing alright? Oh yeah, racing.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

And then the main issue that I had was that the racing was sort of like, oh, this is a priority now. You know, like I was like, oh, we can do this and we can do it. We can do it's a bit better. We can do it the way I sort of um was thinking, you know, like I sort of interpreted how racing should be done. Yeah. Um at the time. Yeah. And then so ran that stock car. We didn't do much in it, so it was a stock car.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Yeah. Um built in. You bought a stock car with some spare change.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Yeah, it was some spare change. Bought it down here. I think that's when me and the friendship between me and Dylan really, really started. Like with that car, it was it was good. It was okay. I was asking Dill how to make it better.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Yeah, how how am I gonna get this car on pace with some of the others?

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Yeah. We I felt like with that car we had, I wouldn't say well we didn't, we had issues from the start. We couldn't seem to have a good run without breaking stuff, and some of the times, like it was like if it wasn't a I don't know how many gearboxes, it was forever gearboxes in that car.

unknown 15:48

Too many, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Too many. Something's not right there. Something wasn't right, and then we blew an engine in it, um, for about two meters in or three meters in, managed to pick one up out of the North Island, and then you were coming back, eh? You picked that up for me, and then chucked it in the back of the van. Brought that back down with him, and then we got it all put in. We had to cut it all, I cut or cut all the chassis rails and everything to get it in, because we went from a flat top manifold to uh curly one with a carb, so the chassis rail ran right through where that manifold went.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

So where you needed to put your manifold up, because obviously your engines are staggered, so they're near the chassis rails, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. So you needed to adjust it all.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Yeah, so pretty much done that with you know I done the majority of it and then Dill just guided me in the right direction. And I was still at this time wasn't, you know, full committed. I was I was committed to racing, but it wasn't like what it is now, you know. So um so what was it, a phone call?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

You know Dylan's obviously working on these cars, and you was like, hang on, I know a man. This and you then went to Dylan.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

I don't know, how did it how did it it must have been something along those lines? Like he I probably just added him on Snapchat.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

Next thing you know, we're um flat out back and forth and um would have sent me a Snapchat on trying to do something like what the fuck you do. This this keys it needs some help.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Pretty much, yeah, and then like yeah, I guess we just um it was just a matter of I thought I probably thought because he had cars on the track by that stage. Did you have any of your new cars? Like not new, like new ones, but you had your own cars on there, eh?

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Yeah, I can't remember if mention eight had many ones, but we would have had a couple we had maybe six or eight of them out.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

So you so you knew he was running cars.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

I knew he was running cars and they were competitive straight.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Right, so you know you you need to turn to a martin for a bit of advice, a bit of help.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

And you we're in the South Island, there's not many people. Right, okay. You know, so like, and especially on the West Coast, you know, there was a few of us that were trying to help me, but you know, you get the thing you'll find with Speedway New Zealand is that if you you've got five different people telling you one thing, and then all of a sudden you forget what the right thing is to do. It's the same. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

You need one if you're gonna I feel if you're gonna do it that way, you need to stick to one person. Yeah, not everything they the advice they give you might be right for you, yeah, correct. But then you you go off your own back and work with the advice rather than I know people that have gone to loads of different people and then they end up selling up. It's like you're getting four different opinions on four different cars. Yeah, if anything, you do need to stick with one person.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

That's pretty much where that car was sort of going, and that's when I sort of started reaching out to Dill for some proper help, you know. Like I was getting everyone's advice and from every different track, and you know, it started going backwards real fast, and so yeah, and then um I to be fair, I didn't like I wasn't a big fan of the contact. I was trying to, we were trying to, we tried to adapt the car to me. At the time, we were trying to adapt the car to me. It wasn't built for me. The seat, my like and uh it was built for a guy that was like must be like six, five, seven, seven foot, something like that. Big boy, so like my feet were always dangling in the car, they were never on the floor pan.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Nothing was ever right.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Nothing was ever right. The steering wheel was up here, you know, like it was just it was hard, and so you I with that being uncomfortable. I mean, it always went into races, I wouldn't we're hesitant, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

Not the most confident, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

I'm not the most confident, so it became unenjoyable in a way. We were wrecking so much stuff, unfortunate stuff, and it was just it's a snowball effect as well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Because once you then your confidence get knocked, then you break something else, then you hurt yourself, and then you go out there the next time you're like, I don't ever say it's gonna break, or I'm gonna break because I'm not writing it. And then you drive like an idiot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

That's exactly where it went. That's literally bang on the nail. 100%. And then at that time I was in the mindset that I enjoyed the TQ when I had that one, I just couldn't afford to race it like I would have liked to. So look, I I took a step back, re-reassessed what I wanted to do, and then we made the decision, and I had some, you know, I had my crew that that were all on board with it. We decided to build a new TQ.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

So while she had the stock cut.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Yeah, so I still had to sell that.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Oh, all right. And then she was going back to TQs.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Yeah, so I ended up at one stage. At one stage, yeah, I had the TQs. He realised he was sitting down. And then the whole the whole fucking time I had that car, that was the comment he uh he told me every single time I talked to him.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Still sitting down, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Um and then, yeah, we just we had that, we built that up from a beer chassis, everything went into that new. I enjoyed that a lot. Um but again, it was one of those classes where you had to, you know, it developed so much since I was last in it. And we had literally the top-of-the-line car for one season, and everything in it was brand new, like every single thing. And then the next season I went back to do it, it had changed again. Like there was everything was carbon fiber, titanium, like $11,000 exhaust systems on them, kids that were 16 coming through at 50 kilo, and I'm not the smallest rig in the world, but these you know, these young fellas coming through that are fast, they've you know, they've raced on simulators. Like, I did everything I could to try and be on the money, and I bought a simulator, I I was like, yeah, this is gonna make me faster, but it doesn't, like, you know, like it was just a big mindset game, and yeah, and then had that. Didn't quite work, didn't quite work the way I wanted it to, and I can't remember if I had we did, yeah, like a year and a half in that, and I can't remember quite fully if we had sold that before talking to you, or if I had it and then I was sitting there and you told me to run your car. I can't remember. I have a feeling it was gone.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

You're waiting, you're looking for the next thing, which is in Dylan's workshop.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

No, at that stage, I think I had um decided that that was me done for a while. Like properly.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

I remember messaging messaging me saying nah, I'm about to speed or I haven't had enough. I've had enough. And I just messaged him and said, nah, you need it.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

ever go in a proper car proper or decent decent car and actually see what a stocker is actually like and at that point it wasn't actually I wasn't trying to sell him a car or anything I just wanted him to take it off as well when you see someone when you see someone that loves a sport but then actually all of a sudden goes to you I don't want to do it you're like nah yeah enough having a shocker in the sport you know it's yeah the sport itself it's just gonna have a good run. Listen and it does mate the amount of money and time you pour into it if you have a long enough bad run yeah it's gonna grind you down mate. No 100% especially if you haven't got a team around you that's the whole time pushing you and picking you up. If you're there on your own out in the garage and things ain't going right. It's not having a crew at the track yeah but you need the people in the garage to help as well and that's right to push you along we've had three bad meetings I can't be asked and you'll have you should really have two people there going oh come on you know no come on yeah if you don't have that then it's it's hard. It is hard it's really hard.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Yeah and like I I my partner Taylor she's like honestly the most supportive person you'll ever meet I mean she's let me take two bang lines you know to go race car driving you know so and then so she's seen what I've gone through she's seen a lot of people haven't you know a lot of people think that probably where we're sort of at today is a little bit just like always has been oh it's just like you know just throw it at but it's not it's I've sort of given everything I can to to it because I love it like as simple as that I love uh whether I'm around it or like you know supporting people crewing I did oh that's what I did between um I crewed for parking and the modified for um like two years I think it was or three years between the first TQ and the stock car. Yeah so that's what I done there so it was just involved you were still there but you just weren't racing yourself yeah and um I got the bug back doing that and everything like that. So but yeah and then sold the TQ. Again that comes across church so it was great. You know when you sell something to the North Island it's hard yak it you've got to either drop it off to the ferry but everything I bought at the top everything I bought bought from the north and sold it back to the South I was I was just the mailman so um yeah and then so then you did you had to go and deals somehow that come about yeah so Dill you hurt your neck eh yeah yeah so dil hurt him's hurt his neck in in Christchurch you sponsor you sponsored a meeting in Ashburton name South Island CTRA and I struggled with the cars there at Eric Come to be yeah and then you messed he messaged me and said hey do you want to run my car at Ashburton and I said to be fair I didn't I I did have to think about it. I was like you wanted to do or not that more about what was going to come of it.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Right.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

That was simple as that because he knew what was right McClellan A I knew exactly where my brain was going at this stage like we had talked and talked did we have mentioned we have we mentioned new cars or anything at that stage? No I don't think so I can't remember to be fair but we had talked about a few there we go go on carry on yeah right um do you want to answer that question again or do you want to no go on crack on we're good so um Chelsea not here so anything goes I've got to do it on the fly mate that's it uh that we yeah we I don't know if we talked or not about building cars or anything he he just always nagged me to have I need to have a go in a proper car. Yeah. Simple as that you could see what he was struggling with basically been around the cars a lot I've seen he put so much time money and effort into something and didn't get the result of it out of it you know yeah so that yeah so then we basically yeah so we went to me a couple of my guys um me and me and Taylor came over and I still remember that day and I swear to god it was the hottest day in the world like I grey mail and uh in Ashburton Ashburton yeah it must have been 40 degrees it was so hot and so you towed everything down there eh I miss there and I was just a fly and fly out driver it felt like and um you didn't even scrape the mud off it was it was it was good it was a nice um nice introduction I thought but it was it basically sums up you know the triple R team it was like there was people there helping that I didn't even know and it was just like okay sweet I don't I can't remember if we went out there I think I went out there and won the first race maybe or did Harley win that one? Oh I can't yeah yeah jumped in Dill's car and then we won that and I it was like I had never driven anything like it um you know what it's like jumping in that straight away and going okay this thing's cool that's right it was right and I go okay I've been battling for so long that's straight away what I come in I think I come in I shook your hand and said geez well done to what you've done you know like this is wicked then um yeah we'd finished the meeting we finished first there was you know 15 cars or something like that but we finished first overall and which you hadn't done previously in a stop car no no he struggled to finish a race in his other yeah so and I loved it like I got the bug straight away back I was like Dylan's like yeah yeah he's just thinking right this is good and then we pretty much um I think I left that track and I said to him I'll ring you in two weeks right I'll ring I'll give you two weeks a message of the boss yeah I'll I'll give myself two weeks and I'll let you know what my decision like if I'm gonna progress with this or what I'm gonna do. About a week and a half later I rang up I rang him up and I said um um I think I Snapchat at him actually and said hey mate um I think we're gonna pull the trigger on a car and then he sent me a return Snapchat and there was four chassis half built like started and he said I already started it I knew what the answer was going to be he sort of smiled and I knew what the answer was going to be and I was just like right alright we're on here and then that was one of the coolest coolest processes like things I've been part of is building that car and then we had a like a massive year last year at work and we like we pretty much come over it must have been like every second or third weekend day so I got to see you know being on the coast like if I just said to him here's the money build me a car yeah and then go pick it up you don't get as attached to it do you no and I think that's why our cars like my car to me is so special to me like you know doing a few different things here and there ringing the Chad at Chad ace you know's performance the same and you build it have you ever painted an engine white and he's like nah and I said we'll paint this one white and then then we went on to the and he was like oh yep and then then we just started powder coating random things though we were sort of doubting them like white like it's gonna get covered in shit but it actually came out yeah it does seats look nice yeah and also the rocket covers and all that yeah and then that was that was just the thing on that car is we just um I just thought it's white to her pretty much um but no we just sort of said like uh again like if we're gonna do this I want to give it a hundred and fifty like I want to give it everything I've got you know like you know your time on the earth short so I sort of thought to myself like I'm gonna if I can't do any good in this well I've got to hang the boots up I've got to I've got to throw the boots out that's what I thought like so yeah and we we finished it up I think we'll pick the car up on opening meeting yeah yeah the morning of I think banging stickers and shit on it so we got we got my car miles away so it was miles away so we got the car now yeah so we built the car and then straight out of the box like we were like I can't remember like I think opening meeting there was a 45 cars or something for Wood for Glen. Yeah you know we had the New Zealand title here that was one of the other reasons why we built it um I contracted to Christchurch I was like I'm I'm giving this 150% is Christchurch sort of the best for stock cars in South Island?

SPEAKER_03 29:59

It is yeah pretty much it's sort of central to most people as well and you know everyone a few people contract here just to race in the bigger fields and yeah so it is the it is the main one for stock cars yeah down here it is yeah so you you fully committed then you're coming to Christchurch as well with a brand new car.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Yeah I was like yep sweet the other reason I did it here was obviously because I had you know if imagine if I if I built a car with a in like a car builder in the North Island and I needed something and I'm racing down here and it just makes all the sense to build it with someone here and you've got the support yeah if something's not right then you know everyone here is so so supportive you know like and there's a there's a a lot of them running so like you know there's what are 23 cars out there?

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Well triple R counts yeah 23 triple that's what I was saying about you like buying into the ecosystem with triple R you know you're buying into the team yeah you know yeah you're not buying into the company but you're buying into the team the ecosystem you know if you haven't got a part on board or someone else yeah yeah we've always got shit to keep it all you do is just replace it at the end of it whereas if you've got a car from the North Island and you and you've not got it.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Yeah well that's what I mean like everything's so you you you've made the right decision by doing that. Oh 100% and um yeah and then so we straight out of the box I think we had like it was 45 cars I think we had on opening night I think we finished third overall.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Did you go testing at all? No.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Right now we got the stickers on said day probably 11 o'clock loaded it up straight to the track.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Yeah well I hadn't even driven it down the road I think at that point no I did remember I just you were like fucking summoned on the clutch I think I stalled about seven times because this was at his old shed. Yeah so we left left there and gravel driveway like this but I still stalled it like seven times because I was like this thing's like everything's brand new not used to you not you're not driving someone else's slogged out thing you know the clutch doesn't come out you know yeah as it was it was insane you know so jumped in that yeah ran that and then we just sort of the season just transpired from there this year and then we um I think this meeting this weekend is number 20 for the season so we've done yeah 20 meetings and that's a busy season for us yeah it is yeah you know and like we traveled the road every weekend you know every weekend to Christchurch we haven't missed a single Christchurch meeting um we've done the North uh New Zealand title here the GP the South Islands I think I was looking at some um some things like some numbers and stuff and I think me and Wade Sweeting are the only Christchurch cars that have qualified for all the national championships this year. Right um from Christchurch so that was quite a cool cool thing to look at and it was funny actually because I had um young Tyler that won the um New Zealand GP this year he was actually the one that told me that in that car in Dill's car yeah yeah he was after the meeting he came over and told me that he said because we had a prick of a run at the GP you know so he came over he said it's all not loss you're the I think you're one of the only ones you and Wade are the only ones to qualify for the for the for all three national titles and I was like oh well that's something to a good achievement yeah I was over the moon you know so pick up when you're bit down eh oh 100% well but the thing is it's so funny because even though that meeting out of the 20 meetings we had we've had you know a handful of DNFs here and there you know ripped out you know just broken components um it's contact racing so that's what you expect but mechanical issues like there's only been two DNFs which could have been avoided mechanical and they were just computer plugs unplugging and that was because we didn't plug them back in properly and I couldn't reach them in the second fix them with tape or something. No sorted don't worry the second time it happened it was definitely sorted.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Yeah it's it's since then it's you've I've never had anything like it you know well going from your last stock car season where you couldn't even finish a race to now only having two DNFs without obviously major damage from a car hitting you that's mad in it and that that's that's what you've bought into and that's what's 100% that's what's now going to put you into the next level. Yeah obviously because your driving this year has probably gone from there to there. 100% because you are getting the laps in you know when you when you're fighting the car I've had it before when you're fighting the car and all you're doing is just fixing stuff that's breaking or falling off you're never improving your driving you're never improving your car no you're never getting your car faster and you're not getting the laps in to get your driving better.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

And then it's a big mental game because all of a sudden you're like I'm not getting anywhere why am I doing this and it's just costing you money and it's like that's exactly right and so what you've done now is is worked 100% you're you're happy where you're at now. I could get I could like I blew what was it I blew the clutch and I blew a gearbox and new at New Zealand GP and I still I think dropped it all off here got it sorted and went out and raced and like I I wasn't upset at all. Yeah because like I you know like my car left here within a week and it was brand new pretty much again you know like so I'm not I was never really oh yeah I don't know it was just it's different it's so hard to explain yeah it's good yeah it's good so then this year obviously your best season yet top finishes yeah yep we run uh we won the West Coast champs we won Mobile Champs um we we finished third in the South Island um but then um uh the drive shaft hoop fell out of the car so that was uh not ideal so we got disqualified for that right so that was not good we fourth in Canterbury Champs missed that by one point to get on the podium for that third at Battle of the stocks um what else do we do?

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Well where are you in the points for Christchurch?

SPEAKER_03 35:37

I'm like I think I'm fifth but about 50 cars I think there's 74 recently registered so obviously some of them have only done a couple of meetings but they still started up so let's say 40 50 main cars week and you finish fifth in your first proper season.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

We've still got this weekend to go in terms of points uh oh so you still nip a few more I'm hoping so right if you help me out yeah um it's not bad but yeah we're fifth but like the the difference between four uh fifth and second is only like twenty points so that's the difference between a D and F and a first so you can potentially finish second I can still get on the podium there's no reason why I couldn't Harley no it's not to J to Jay right Harley's like he's fourth but he's three points ahead of me and right so he's up there window so you can potentially win get second or third now in your first proper season yeah with your new because obviously at home as well you bought you built that brand new garage workshop to give you the best chance and I mean if you're working on the ground in a gravel ground you're gonna be less likely to do anything on your car and yeah and you've got a nice workshop like you got now yeah going out there is that's enjoyable yeah yeah you know that's enjoyable yeah 100% you've got the nice ramp there now as well so you you've done everything you can now to put yourself in the best possible situation going from financing your first car to now you know having what you've got now yeah this is what you wanted years ago but you can never afford it exactly right and and it's not all about for me it's not all about the the financial side it's the the because I'm happier with everything in terms of like my racing the amount of family involvement for me that you know that it's bought this season is it's massive like you'll see at the track on uh Friday night tomorrow night it's what yeah I'm gonna have to have bloody you know flags on everyone because I'm gonna lose them all like the family my family that comes like a New Zealand title I think we had 18 people there. Yeah it was ridiculous it was too many people right um we had to put them in the crowd and because you're only allowed a certain amount of armbands and it was just it was that but that's what that's what I you know my family's very small so to have them all there and supporting me you know it's it's means the world so yeah that's that's the main thing you've got your friends all your friends pretty much racing a lot of them that's pretty much yeah so the social side the social side is for me is you know I the people that I've met over here that didn't probably didn't know me much before then you know like to be able to come here and they still you know they've got open doors for us and it's just such a it's such a big family here like even though they're not blood it's a it's a big family definitely and I've witnessed that in the the week I've been here and spent a few days with you I've witnessed that it's you know every two minutes you're on the phone to someone from Speedway just chatting absolute rubbish with them just having a laugh do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 38:23

That's good yeah good wicked that's that's really nice to hear that story as well really good we good yeah yeah work shot mate time's over finished right Dill move on to you we'll talk about obviously your dad raced so we'll talk about early memories getting into Speedway what you can first remember at Speedway before even racing yourself.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Oh shit there's too many memories but too many memories we picked a few good ones in I think I would have been my first meeting I was like maybe four or five days old I think from what my dad told me something like that anyway something stupid Papa Rob over there so patched up eh yeah so that and then yeah following Dad round and oh one of the probably one of the earlier memories would have been me and Harley younger brother went out um I think it was Allesmere actually went out to watch Dad one day and obviously it was only me, Harley and Dad. So we went on sat in the tow truck out on the infield and that was us for the day. And I think it could have been the last race and there was Dad and another fellow were battling away battling away and we just still remember it we're watching them and he followed them into the ditch and they both rolled over and we were the tow truck to go and bloody dug them out so it was a bit of a yeah at that time yeah I don't know how old we would have been bloody young but that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

That was a funny memory eh give dad assholes eh you're not meant to roll yourself you can imagine him and early on it that young you imagine them now if you'd done it but oh yeah imagine them back then.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

We're normally the ones trying to roll them yeah but no yeah like we've been into it for since day dot really eh? Greenhead race back in the day and dad and has it always been stock cars? Mini stocks? Mini stocks again Green Dead Have you always been stock cars? Like you haven't done no open wheels or non-contact I brought a TQ one time. Got home from work and uh I'd always wanted to go and I think I might have even talked the wheel when a few of the other boys once we all got out of mini stocks few of them went TQs and stock cars and Raddy Rah. But always wanted to have a good have a go because they were always pretty cool but no one would ever let me so I thought nah fuck you so I seen one on the marketplace and shot over to the coast and brought it and was whose car was that was it Sean was it now was it Cameron fellas Cameron Kinsey's yeah that blue one that he had yeah so that used to be Sean Brown's oh did it yeah yeah yeah so we went abroad I can't remember it might have been five grand or six grand or something so got home and chucked um the missus and another mate and the Ute and off we went and then yeah I think we bring it back and they were everyone gave me arseholes for it but yeah me and surprise off you give it everyone else yeah I think that'll be that Dylan yeah I think we took it to we took it to Westport actually yeah I'd done the first day in it and had a like I was no good because I was too busy going sideways and drifting everywhere because enjoying yourself oh it was fucking yeah the zippy we things hey they're bloody awesome and I think dad jumped in it for the next day and yeah no it was quite cool took it off the bucket list and that was that.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Time to get back in the stock car.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

Yeah I think I actually then we took it to Ashburton and one of the races I binned it into the wall and wrecked all the back of it came in took a photo of it straight on bloody Snapchat for sale and sold it for a mini stock yeah then we I actually ended up with a couple of mini stocks back then and I was just leasing them out to like the youth and that to just to get more kids and shit sort of involved in it. So what were you doing before that then the junior mini stocks did you start with no I never done that no I was more into bloody being an idiot and driving around town and picking up girls and you know just living it up. So we'd sort of done that for a bit and then So you didn't go straight into racing when you could then went down there for a couple of days with the boys and Harley was saying he was racing a mini stock at Eshburn one day. So I thought shit we'll call in there on the way back and watched them and then they've managed to somehow twist my rubber arm and had a go and sort of hook from there eh?

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Right so you you just needed that that push that go just to get you actually yeah maybe I shouldn't be ripping it around the streets. Maybe I should do it on the track instead.

SPEAKER_03 42:38

It was probably a saga to be fair because I was just yeah probably at the point where I was going to end up getting in the shit and you know something Speedway was sort of I know you might as well say like a bit of a turning point and saying Harley was enjoying it so I thought shit we can probably give this a crack together and yeah and that sort of led to this and that and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

So you done you did jump into mini stocks adult ones then later on.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Yeah done that do do any good in them nah that's fucking hopeless to be fair. I just like crashing into people right so many stocks mini stocks are no good for you then no actually done one mini stocks over here are non-contact by the U They used to be tap and spin and the adult ones. And the adult ones yeah yeah like back when dad was racing them and it was contact and then it sort of got a bit out of hand so they knocked it back and yeah non-contact um yeah and then I raced my mini stock at Woodford Glen one meeting and same thing just started hitting people and they took me up to the tower one race get old smack on the hand and they said if you're gonna drive like that you need to get a stock car. I'm quite determined so I thought right fuck you watch this sort of went away from that meeting and talked to mum and dad and all them sort of and we ended up buying a stop car that the week later and we shot up to Blenheim and picked it up and yeah bring it back the week later and rock about to the next meeting and we had Stop guy, so it was a bit of a laugh, but yeah, and that sort of yeah, that led to another thing, and ended up um buying a half-built car off a local, and then I gave the one that I brought to Harley to have a race. I think he was would have been 15, 16 then. How much younger is he? Three years younger. Right, yeah. Yeah. So I gave him that one, and then I was quite determined to do something of you know of yourself. My own, and yeah, started building that car up, and obviously that got me, Harley, and dad sort of bonding a bit closer and that, and built that car up, which was pretty cool. You look at some of the photos and probably should have quit the end of the thing.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

Was you always into fabricating side then? Was you always fabricating your own car? Or not? Right. So you was learning without the.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

But even when we were like eight, ten, we were building go-karts and shit out of wood, and dad would build us the metal frames, and it was like it was and definitely in the blood from day dot.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

So always in always gonna be end up building something.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

Yeah. Yeah, and I was always determined, and probably back then wouldn't have had two cents to clap together. So it was if we needed something, we had to either figure out how it was done or do just catch it up and make it work to carry on.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

So you that car, bringing that car halfway done was enough for you to be able to.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Yeah, I think the chassis rails were there and it gave us enough and we sort of We can sort of do this. Yeah, to be fair, we copied a lot off the first car, and obviously it didn't work in that chassis, so then we had to sort of just start looking at other cars and yeah, just talking to a few people that were into it and got a few ideas and yeah, that got that one sorted. So we ran that one for fuck, we ought to run that one for probably two or three years back then, but yeah, it's a bit like Will's first season where you just have heaps of drama.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Oh yeah, that one up there.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Oh, that one, yeah. The old vest on.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Yeah, so it was like a Higgins Vest on Yes, that one was like a Higgins copy that we sort of done our own twist.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Well that's the one you finished, you'd take it off an hour. Yeah, yeah, that's the one that we finished. And you did you get the bug from that for building them? Obviously, then if you built that and you're not doing too well, you think we need to change it, we need to either restart here or we need to chop this one up and start again. Yeah. If you're not getting the results.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

Yeah, we sort of built that one up, and then I think uh most of our friends group with uh sort of turning 17, 18, and probably a bit like Will went went off to the bank, and I think there's about five of us that all got a I think it might have been 25, 30 grand loan then, which was a lot of money when it sounds normal now, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 46:50

Yeah, I was thinking I was the only one.

SPEAKER_03 46:52

Yeah, we all done that and we all just got on marketplace or Facebook and found these cars and we all just shot off and brought them and you know we met some cool people from that. Yeah, because like fuck back then, you know, you'd get 30 grand and then next thing she's all gone and you've got a broken race car, you've got to go back to work to keep it going.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

It's crazy. I've never like never I've never heard there's obviously people in the UK to do it, but yeah, never I've never known to do it, especially at that age, you're not brave.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

Oh, it's sort of like a chain reaction, one of the boys gets a call cut, and you sort of gotta better one another, and that's sort of how it came to be, and yeah, and then after that, just yeah, I don't really know what happened after that, to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Did you because you and I I have a I have fond memories when I was must have been when I was still in mini stocks and you and Harley would come to the coast and they were just blacked out cars. Because you contracted to lots of tracks, eh? You contracted to Greymouth. Yeah, we were both Greymouth and was at Blenheim and those ones. Yeah. I remember you used to come to the coast, and I I have a feeling I used to I might have been racing mini stocks then, or I I might have been just about to buy it or something, and I just remember you guys just coming and wreaking every single Greymouth car, like every and I was just like, these guys are dicks. Was it just you, you Harley and Neil Matt?

SPEAKER_03 48:10

Oh no, it was just me and Harley by then, so we just we we would had no money, we'd spray can them and I think we were running pink numbers back then because that's what I remember them as wanted to stand out. Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's sort of where it's sort of probably almost almost kicked off uh me and Harley. We uh uh yeah, first proper season that we both done together in the stock cars.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

We remember that your built your own.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

Yeah, yeah, my built one and my old one, yeah, yeah. So we um well we didn't know anything, and next thing people were out at the track, people were talking about New Zealand titles and this and that, and we just thought, oh, it's this. So, you know, we sort of looked into it and it was in Palmerston North in 2014. And um, so we just I don't know how we done it, but we managed to get up there and we went, that was our first ever New Zealand title together. And um we just treated like our normal meetings here, and we just straight into everyone, like we just hooked into everyone, we're rolling people, and we're getting smashed, and we're just having a hell of a time, eh? And that's probably what even now most people talk about that, eh? Is when we went up there and just just causing up just me. Just yeah, just into it, eh? And that's what we loved about it. You know, we were running standard engines and bloody ro, you know, you'd go to the wreckers and get the baldest tie you could find and chuck it on there. And I think I had one tie that was on there for two seasons, and dad gave me arseholes for it. No, change that tie, you idiot. Like, no, no, we'll be fine. Never used to go around the corner. Then we put a new tie on the top.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

You didn't need to when someone's in front of you.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

Yeah, so then we put a new tire on and fucking hell, we're away. You know, we'd go around the corners and yeah, change the heaps, and then that was sort of a yeah, another turning point really, just taking a bit more serious.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

Yeah. Well, I say take serious, yeah. We don't really take rules serious to be fair. We're not. But going from there, then obviously you've done that Palmsdom in the North Island, smashing people up the New Zealand tile for the stock cars. And then did you come back and think, you know, we maybe we should get our head down and actually try and win some?

SPEAKER_03 50:12

No, we were never like that. No, we were back then we were that keen, we'd go we'd race Friday, Saturday, and we'd go to Oxford or Ishburden on Sunday, like we were just that keen. Pretty sure actually after Palmy, we got the boat. Would have been two o'clock in the morning, and we drove the whole way from Parmi all the way back here because they had a race meeting the next night, and we just rocked up and they were still dirty, and we're still fixing them from Parmi. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

And um, yeah, and we just come back, like we just do it week in, week out, and then so is that you still then building your skill up in the workshop, obviously. Where you where you're smashing them up all the time, yeah. You still gotta fix them, and when you're doing it yourself, you're there actually fixing them, getting the skill good enough to then when does it start becoming Rob's race cars, or Rob race cars? Do you know what I mean? When does that come about? Yeah, 2014.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

From 2014 to Yeah, so I was in Terrier Plastera for since I was 15, left school, and then done that for fuck probably 10, 12 years. And then obviously we're doing this. This was just a hobby.

SPEAKER_01 51:15

Yeah, of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

That's got well out of hand to pull them real quickly.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

Um it looks like a hobby now, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 51:23

Yeah, so yeah, so we done that, and then yeah, we were wrecking them and banging them up, and we just all knuckled down and we'd fix them and patch them up and we'd go again. And yeah, it wasn't until um by that stage I hadn't even built a car to be fair. And then in the same year I had a guy approach me about fixing one of his old cars up just a bit on the side. So you've seen you know how many times you fixed yours? Yeah, yeah, like that. So we ended up, he bring it to me and sort of mentioned roughly what he was gonna spend on it. And I just thought looking thinking, you're mad. I thought, we could probably almost build something for maybe just a fraction more. And um, yeah, so I sort of said to dad and Harley, and what do you sort of reckon? And we sort of, I was real determined again and just pulled his one apart, took what we needed out of that, and just started building a car. Was that copying his one? Nah, nah. So that was one of the cars Harley actually brought. It was a raise. Um yeah, so we sort of copied that one. Not fully, but just rough lengths and whips and that, and then we sort of points and stuff like that. Put our own twist to it, and um yeah, that was actually the yeah, the first one. And it went out and it was what it was pretty reliable straight off the back. And um yeah, but he didn't he didn't do a hell of a lot on it because he didn't like the contact side of it all.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Right.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

He might have done a season or two and then bloody moved it on. Yeah. And then that led to another thing, and then I think the next two we built, one was for myself and one was for one of my mates, um, Josh. So we just got on Facebook and whatnot and found a cool looking car and sort of based it off there.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

And then they just used using pictures and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

Yeah, it's using like visual pictures and sort of like we we didn't really know the ins and outs, we just knew at the end we wanted it to look, you know, like the trial. I'm not sure how we're gonna get there. As long as it wasn't both out of steel, yeah, we'll be good. So yeah, we're done, we built two of them. Obviously, I put my shit to started building and put my shit to the side and finished that because obviously no one needed to pay for it. Yeah, helping my mate out, and we got that one gone, and that actually turned out bloody awesome. So yeah, it's still gone now, actually. Um yeah, and then my one mine was used as a workbench for bloody two years, I think. But in the meantime, I got offered the car that we based um these two off. I got offered to buy that car. Um mate, my good mate of mine now, up in Palmy, he sort of rang me up and said that it was coming up for sale, and um they were coming down for a race meeting out at Oxford, so we teed up and I was working away while they were racing, they rang me and said, Oh, we've just blown the motor up. You know, what are we gonna do? I'll bring it round, and that's how we met most of them, and yeah, we just chucked another motor in it, got them gone for the next day, and they finished all three races, and then come and said to me, Oh shit, where's your gear? You're having a go. Fuck, I don't have anything. So we patched us, got some gear and shit together, and ended up having a skit in it, and thought, fuck, this thing's cool, like, you know, we've better than what you've had so far. Oh, I didn't finish your car yet. No, it was like nine, yeah, they haven't finished mine, it was still a workbench, so it was like nine-day difference. And then um, yeah, we we ended up buying it. Don't know how, but we did. Drove up to Parmi and actually raced Wong, yeah, raced Wanganui the night we picked it up. Uh Parmi, then Wanganui, and then we bring it back down here. And then sort of having a better look over it once it's in the shed.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Then you had it in front of you with the measurements and everything, like, right, this thing drives well.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

What can I take off it to put my own element on and actually build myself a real good bloody car? Yeah, yeah, dead right.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

So then, yeah, we sort of got that one, and then that's when I sort of had it sitting and I finished my one. And I had them both going, but then couldn't afford to obviously keep them both and run them both, so I just yeah, and then people were sort of talking about me building them cars and that. So we ended up selling the tri rail off and then kept my own one, and then ended up selling that one. And then by then, um a couple of people actually approached me about building, I think I'd done two, maybe three in one season, and that's when I took the yeah, took the leap and went out on my own and started the business and that's what I've done. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was scary back then because I was working, I was getting paid each week, and it was the unknowing, you know, like I could build these two cars for six months, but what was that gonna lead to? And if you've got nothing after that, yeah, yeah, we need to go to, you know, like I'd not be able to buy food or fuel or you know, you send Harley out there to wreck them in the season. Come back, I'll fix it. Yeah, I don't actually yeah, I don't think he's aggressive. You know, I'll go and bend some wheel gates and get the money and but yeah, give them a white. Half the time we go and hit someone, we're normally give them our space to keep them out with their gun and shit, you know. So the issue now is that if you hit someone, it's probably one of your cars. Yeah, we're getting more and more out there, so obviously. You can't you can't not hit them, you've got to smash them out of the way because of course you reach for yourself. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

So is there many car builders down south?

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Or is there's been a few over the years. But um nothing now what you've sort of taken taken it to now. Definitely one of the biggest ones on the South Island. I'd say the next one's probably Haggy up in Nelson. But Hagg's more super stocked.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

Right, okay. But you'd definitely be like the you're probably the only one doing cars now. Like full time, yeah, full time, definitely full-time.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

Yeah, there's there's obviously gonna be some people home building and building one for their mate and stuff and whatnot. One for you, one for me, yeah. But you are the main one down south doing stock cars now.

SPEAKER_03 57:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much, hey, nice. And like you know, we're getting cars, obviously we've got cars down in Invercargle, Dunedin, like Will from the coast, and yeah, we had one up in Nelson and that. And they all it's quite cool because they all bring them back to get repaired on and as I say, they're buying into the ecosystem. And obviously, we look after them and we just want to see them on track each meeting. Obviously, everyone's got to make a dollar, but yeah, in my eyes, the aim is to keep them all out there going around around in circles.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Eventually you're gonna be the reefs of down south now, yeah. Yeah, if you people. Everyone's got the cars. Maybe it's it could happen. At what point do they look like these though? Because I can imagine the first ones didn't look like these. Because these things look unbelievable, especially all the little tweaks that you put on them, and obviously you're diamonding stuff now, and we call it diamond, and I don't know what you call it. Yeah, from the diamond. At what point do they start looking like this? Was it a few years ago? Was it a bit earlier on? Because these these things are just mental, and obviously, speaking to your dad and everything, he helps you do certain bits, and you do pretty much all of it in-house. Yeah, because starting off to build one of these is like thought you know stop cars at home, like you just strip out a normal uh road car and you use all the standard suspension parts, standard pickup points other than the front left turret and stuff like that. But these, everything is pretty much custom made the front axles. You know, I call them the axles, I know you've got don't call them the axles. The terminology is so far away. Take the pick out of our terminology, guys. Don't have it. Yeah, I'll tell you the English terminology. All the front axles are obviously all built by you guys, the rear axles, yeah, diff housing, is dear shafts, the half shafts, the prop shafts and half shafts, they're all made by you. So at what point do you learn to do all that as well? Because it's not just building these chassis, it's it's unbelievable. Oh mate, the craziness, craziness, craziness. Just watching the video of me looking round the cars from the recent videos, it's mental. Absolutely mental. How do you learn all of that stuff? Is it just as you go repairing stuff, I suppose?

SPEAKER_03 59:19

Like obviously it goes back to the first couple of cars we had that you know you'd buy a race-ready car and you'd go and wreck it and smash it up. Like, we didn't have the money to just drop it down to the engineer to get it fixed, so it sort of would just pull it apart and go all right, that's fucked. So how can we improve that? Yeah, yeah, can you improve that?

SPEAKER_01 59:35

Maybe on early doors you could be doing that, but later on, as you got into it, you're like, right, that cues, like you're saying, the actual how the diff housing that you've got now, the diff, the actual, you know, you call it the diff. You're confusing us now. No, the diff, obviously, we're showing like oh it's breaking away here, so now we're changing it to improve it. Yeah, obviously, that's what you do further down the line, and that's how you've come to how it all is now. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah. The things breaking and evolving.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:00

Yeah. Yeah, and you've always always looking well now. We're probably almost looking for the like next step, you know. Yeah, we've tried a few different things this season, and we've upgraded like Will and Casey and upgraded the boys to sort of what we're doing, and if it works for them, then it's sort of the the next sort of upgrade or next step that we're sort of taking.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Yeah, that's right. And then obviously if you find something in any of your cars, you're like, well, we have found this, if you want it done, bring it in. Yeah, 100%. And we get it done done to your car as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

The other thing, I suppose, in going to that conversation there is that you've got multiple cars out there. So if you implement that change and it works for five of the drivers, then you know that to that works, you know. Like if you were just trying it on one car, it's gonna be so hard to go, oh yeah, sweet. No, I think that works, you know. Yeah, four or five drivers go, yeah, no, that's a massive difference.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:48

Yeah, so we can bounce off one another, and like you know, Harley's quite good with Will and obviously set up, and he's obviously done a heap more laps than me because I spend more time ready building them. But so he passes what he knows on to you know the other fellows that have got them and because you've had some success in them, obviously with Harley and probably a few others. Oh, they've been this season. Oh, this season's been yeah, like a boomer for us, or eye opener A, like I've just been super reliable. Just obviously, we've got Chad at ace performance, you know. With that without him, we definitely wouldn't be anywhere we are now.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

So you know you've got the best motor, yeah, you've got the best engine and you've got the most reliable motor, pretty much. You know, most reliable chassis with you. So this season has done, you've gone really well.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Yeah, well not so much myself as no, but triple archives. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, like I think they've won that we podium the South Islands, podium GP new um New Zealand team, new well Harley come away with two NZ at the New Zealand title, and even just like club champs and stuff, you know. If they're not there, they're thereabouts, you know, we get seconds and fourths and fifths, and you know they've yeah, just about beyond every single podium in South Island.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

Bell of the stocks, Harley won that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so they won again. You're on a podium at every championship. For the stock cars of the South Island.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:04

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

Is there any chance of you pushing to the North Island? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:10

We've just yeah, we've just sold one up there. Well, yeah, have you got any up there at the minute? Uh I built one for a guy the other year, um, Alex. He's bloody overseas working, so he only done a handful of meetings up there, but yeah, straight out of the box, he was straight to the front and he was loving it, which is pretty cool. We're trying to twist his rubber arm into getting another one, but that's a that's a bit there's it for you, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:35

Obviously, I know you've got we're talking about future plans, but I know you've got a load lined up already. But if you could then get a couple of good drivers in the North Island to be running the cars, yeah. I mean, one's just gone there.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:48

It's just that stupid bit of water in between us and South Island New Zealand and the other side of the world because we had this conversation.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:57

Between the South and the North. You can just build a bridge, eh?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:59

Yeah, just build a bridge. I don't know why I haven't built bridges.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

He's just been going on to me. Why haven't they build a bridge? Hard to explain. We need to take them over with a bit of water out. We will do it. You'll sit on the theory for four hours and you'll be like, I don't know bridge. Yeah, it's a long bridge, it water's deep.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

Yeah. Oh like you can get it there into a rum, and like, don't you wrong? I ended up with five or six cars up there, we'd still make sure with it we're keeping them on track, week in, week out.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

Of course, by supplying pots and stuff like that, you know, you'll if if you've got the customer base up there, you're you're no doubt going to be taking bits up there and you you'd have somebody that stock it for you and stuff like that. That's obviously future plans, I would I would imagine. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

So next season probably we should have three of them up there.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

Nice hoping. So yeah, but if we chat to you in a couple of years, then you'd be like, yeah, we've cracked the North Island now as well. Yeah, we'll build you, I'm afraid of over it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

When you come back for next season, yeah, when you're coming full time, yeah, you'll be up there racing too, won't you? We'll do something, won't we? Yeah, we'll go North Island, surely.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

Sounds like we all need another workman, eh?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

I'm on part-time hours. Yeah. So obviously Harley, which we will chat to in a podcast as well, is like smashing it at the minute, big time. Um with your racing, you're obviously not racing as much as him. Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

I've done a when I first built that car, I'd done a pretty good season. With this one. Yeah, this was your one. Yeah, yes, I built that brand new and three years ago, did you say? Yeah, towed the towed the thing all the way to the Needon for its first meeting. Where's the Needon? Five hours. South?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:39

South.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

Oh, right at the bottom. Yeah. Not right at the bottom, but yeah, towards the bottom. Yeah, took it all the way down there, and people were like looking at it, and because obviously it was brand new. And it was pretty cool to have.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Did it look like this without the panels?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:51

No, it had the panels and stuff on it, looked exactly the same. Same thing. You know those, you know those photos.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

Without them ones. Obviously, this is your style, how you do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

You know that photo you put on your Facebook when you first announced you'll give New Zealand. That's what it looked like I do.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

Yeah, that was when it was brand new. So it was just black with numbers because obviously all the funds went into building the bloody thing. Um yeah, we lugged it all the way down there for a what then not meeting it was. A meeting.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Done a lap in the quarter and bloody locked the diff up. So I blew the diff and in a tow truck hook us up and wrecked all the panel and by then I was bloody over it. So all you know, you put your heart and soul into something and it just uh kicks you straight in the gut. So and then we had to first race. Yeah. Yeah, first race in this laps. And then we had to bloody because of the whole lock, the whole arse end up, we had to pull the axles out and I had to cut the axles in half just so it would roll to get it back in the trailer. So we'd done that, and then it sat on the set on the lawn at home for bloody two to three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

I was just I ain't touching it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:55

No. Do it the thing here. And then yeah, I think it was the It was the South Islands. So you have to I had to do one meeting to be eligible to do the South Islands, and that was out here. Would have been about Thursday night. Everyone was eager me on, just bloody put a diff in it, rah-rah, is nah nah nah. And then we ended up doing it. Which was, yeah, now I look back, it was bloody cool because we went out to the South Islands in the first race. I'd actually finished in it. We started off the back of about 28 cars. And obviously racing at Woodflen for bloody 10, 12 years. I'd never ever won a race out there, never. Not one. I started off, I started off the back and yeah, just took it easy, make sure the diff wasn't gonna blow. Got midway through and I was sort of looking around, I was saying, fucking hell, we're sort of in the top bloody five off the bat. Shit. Give it a bit more jandle. And we ended up winning the race by half of that. So it was yeah, that was pretty special. Yeah, you know, like ten years going out, or you know, all my life going out there and watching people race, and I'd never actually held held the flag, and it took yeah, it took ten years to get a flag out there. Oh wow. And then obviously that led on to another flag, and we ended up being top on points going into the final.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:12

Um flag's a bit heavier than you sort of expect, didn't it? Yeah, shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:18

Before the end of the arms on because in in New Zealand they don't have pace cars. We get out, get on a pace car, give the crowd a wave. Over here, you just get given a flag and you've got to drive it around yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

First time ever getting it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:32

If I turn through it, you're sort of trying to figure it out. Trying to have to if I can hold it on the side of the car. You see why. I think there's been a couple of cars that weld a flag standard inside the kill's one of them. Not the jar.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Harley's one of them. Yeah, definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:47

100%. Who's got one in there?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

So you got a few wins in it then? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:51

Yeah, we that was uh the first season, and hey, we went bloody well.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

No pressure. No pressure, come on. Yeah, no pressure.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

I think pretty much there's been it would have been eight, ten people that have had a skid in that, and the majority of them have come over with a flag. So if you don't do it, we're bloody shipping you back to your side of the wheel. 100%. We'll be going back. Yeah, yeah, most of them, obviously, the numbers down here, there's you know got twenty of them out there, so that tends to be a sort of a Saturday night thing, at least someone keeps something. Which is pretty cool to you know build something and oh of course there's always always that achievement in yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Yeah, you've built it, you put it on track. Yeah, you might have got disarmed in the first one, but then when you got that checker flag, it made that easier.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:35

Oh yeah, yeah, it was I still remember it to this day everyone was coming up, and oh well done, but you know, deep down it was I was bloody chucking myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

Nice. And then up to that was three years ago when this car was new. Up to now, do you carry on racing it over the last few seasons?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:50

Nah, so last yeah, last season I was racing. Obviously, work got in the way and sort of just parked it up and building cars and getting repairing others. Yeah, getting, you know, building because that was sort of my aim to just get as many cars out there and going good as we could. So I sort of just parked up for a bit and then dragged it out for a meeting and ended up bloody hitting the wall and breaking my neck. So that sort of put us out for a yeah. Yeah, broke the vertebrae and my neck and smashed two discs. Oh wow. So um that was a sort of a last year. Yeah, last February, I think it was. Yeah. So we hadn't done bugger all since then. And then it wasn't until this year was the title was here, so I was sort of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went into surgery and got all that fixed up and that, and it was sort of a it was a bit scary to be fair. Were you first meeting back? Yeah, first meeting back. I done one race and they actually broke the steering box, so we're gonna get one we only had one race in it. And then yeah, we're straight into the New Zealand title. Oh wow. So yeah. That was a yeah, definitely wasn't driving the best, because obviously in the back of your mind, you sort of think back and I I I've touched where I've never been seriously injured, but I can't imagine it's easy getting back in.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

I know a couple of people in the UK have like smashed their body to bits. One of the stock car drivers, metal plates all over him, and then within like eight months or so back in it full time, and you're like, you're mad. Yeah. So yeah, but obviously the first time getting back in, I can imagine it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:25

Yeah, it was sort of bit iffy and sort of just probably took uh I wasn't aggressive enough, so I was sort of and third and fourth trying to qualify, and people were just past me because I was sort of letting them go in a way because it was yeah, up there was sort of just all goes down to that confidence, doesn't it? Yeah, just being here.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:44

That was the first night, and then the next night we sort of um You qualify for a repercharge, did you?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:49

Yeah, so the next night we missed what's a repercharge, but we don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:52

Second chance.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:53

Like a last chance race.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:55

Sort of like yeah, so basically what was it, the top yeah, the top 26 through the groups, I think it was six groups, so the top three or four from each group automatically qualified, and then the next there's a last chance race for everyone. Yeah, so the next 20 28 30 cars went into the reprocharge and they took the top three through from in which that you qualified and went through to the finals and that. So yeah, I think we were two points. Yes, it was only one race. So I think we were two points out from qualifying, I think we were fifth or six or something, so that put us in grid of third, fourth, fifth row back, something like that. Yeah, and then um managed to, there was a bit of carnage, so managed to, I don't know, pick my balls up a wee bit and start up in the bumper in and stood up, stood up, yeah. Yeah, so we started dashing them out of the way and managed to get up to third with on a red light, and I was sort of looking around thinking, shit, you know, we're we caught a half a half lap in front of the rest of the pack, and obviously there's people on the pole line waiting and swinging and that, so it's yeah, it's bloody hard out. I mean, yeah, we managed to come through through with that and finished um finished second, third.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

Was it the same repercharge that you were in, Craig? No, the other recharge, yeah. Yeah, the other one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:06

I think we came through with third anyway, which you know, first, second or third, it was you went to the big game.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:11

So that means you was off the back of the grid for the main one.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

No, no, no, it was new grids for the next night for the final, so which was quite cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

And then it's top three over them three races. Correct, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:21

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we we come through that recharge, which was cool, and then the next recharge went out, and the old man was in there, and we went up and watched him, and you know, his car's bloody 33 years old, so we give him death about it being an old girl and that, but it still goes, it still goes bloody.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

You gotta get through. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:42

I was thinking, this old boy's bloody going good, and there's a few red lights, and um yeah, he was battling around here and he ended up winning it, which was pretty cool to have me, him, and Harley in to the finals for the you know, we'll we'll probably never do that again, but just to have that as a memory was yes Especially your first meeting back. Yeah, it's cool. 115 was it 1690?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:06

169, and this was it the top 30 you go through. Yeah, yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Yeah, so to be there with them and you know, we're your first meeting back. To us it felt like we bloody won the New Zealand ball, to be fair. I was thinking, fuck, you know, like yeah, we're you know, that was the heart of it. And then obviously we went on and I think I had a shit run and got tied up and dad had a shit run, so then we just sort of uh the aim was always to try and get one of the cars on the podium. So you know, we just done what had to be done, and we'll we'll had a shocker, and you know, we sort of all got together and sort of had a yarn and we'd which we'd had the yarn weeks before the title, yeah. Just sort of thought, right, you know, the first couple that are up here in the points, we're gonna go and help them. And yeah, to be out there and with eight of my other cars was pretty cool on its own. And then to come around and just seeing them just taking cars out left, right, and centres sort of get your bar up pay and like you know, well, you know, he was I was sort of thinking to myself, right, he's either gonna like this or he's gonna hate it because you know there's gonna be a lot of contact and shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:07

Is this the first proper one that you've been in where it's like I need to do something?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

Yeah, I'd never been in the I'd never even that was my first ever New Zealand title in any class, and yeah, and then to have it in a contact grade as well, and then to go into it like it was such a weird feeling. Like going into that last race, I knew I think I went into the final tenth on points. I was no way I was gonna get near the podium. And even if like the top five DNF, there was such a big points difference, I don't think the next ones they still would have probably finished on the podium, you know. So it was just who in what order. And then going into it was yeah, it was like like Dill said, the conversation had probably started four months before the title, and we everyone knew what the job was. Yeah, of course. And um, yeah, I just Taylor said to me before that last race in that title, and she was just like, Oh, she was you could see she was panicking, she didn't know what the hell what the hell was gonna go on.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:07

And I remember sitting there and I knew in the head exactly what I remember asking you'd you'd had the scenario in your head 50 times what was gonna hunt him in that race.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:15

The cool thing is as well, is we had Riley Ethorn, who finished third overall in the title, he was parked right next to us, so and he didn't have any other Nelson club mates in the final.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:24

So he was a Nelson on his own, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:26

So I was like straight away like ah, you know, and I've raced with I've known Riley for ages, so straight away I was thinking, like, oh, I've got Harley and I've got him, and then I was just like, Oh, I know what I've got to go do here, and then it was it was funny, like it was a weird feeling, and I um I didn't know how it was gonna go, but as soon as that green flag dropped, I was like, I just I don't know, it was just something switched in me, and I can see exactly why like the Teams Racing thing's such an attractive thing for people. Just give you that mean adrenaline rash.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:56

It was such a cool there's a job on track to do, and you gotta do it. Yeah, 100%. It's not winning. Absolutely not winning. You're in a race and your job is to not win. Yeah, do you know what I mean? That's that's the mad thing. That is crazy what you guys have over here.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:10

Yeah, you know, and like a final like that, you know, like it's obviously a 15 lap final, I think they were. We're normally eight to ten laps normally at most meetings, but to go in that and you know, most of like Will and myself, we were in the old man and shit. We were lucky if we were doing bloody six or seven laps, you know, because we were just waiting and you just get a hiding and you yeah, it was it was fucking awesome to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

I what I just remember like you've seen the video of that final one, and like I'm just so focused on getting the person in front of me that I'm driving the car like it the opposite than it should be, and like because you can't think of nothing else but getting that car and not. I remember I chased down the points leader, I think, and for like two laps straight. And he at one stage he was like four cars in front of me, but somehow I got this driver on the outside, and um I managed to pick him up going into free, and I was like from that moment, I was just like, this is cool. And then last lap I come round and I seen Dill on the brakes, and the guy he he managed to come back around me after I'd slowed down, and he got past me, and I'm like, Oh, that's him. We chase him again. Next thing you know, I see Dill coming in two, and then it was all over for him, poor fella. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Proper.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:29

Yeah, yeah, we sort of pinned him in that corner, and you know, and that was enough. And the other boys were doing what they had to do with other cars and obviously Harley then come through and yeah, yeah. And then yeah, to get him through to be on the track with him and come through and know, because we had every all the crew in that were at the fence, like, you know, giving us and uh yeah, it was Yeah, it was out of it, and then like you know, we obviously because they locked the they don't let you go back into the pitch, you've sort of gotta circulate until they um do the final decision on the top five and get the vehicle checks and all that. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, to do a couple of like laps with all the boys and just see everyone fizzed up.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:07

It's yeah, it's it's a good feeling.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:09

Definitely cool memories, eh?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:10

It was so funny, like because I think by the end of that race, I think there was only your car and Harley's car out of the triple R cars moving. Everyone else was getting towed off, and like oh, it was like tow trucks, it was front ends bent around, and but yeah, it was such a cool, such a cool thing. Bell cherisat Race Forever, like it was such a cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:30

That's good because there's there's videos of it, you got on boards a bit as well and stuff like that. So you're always gonna remember some of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:35

I bought the stream straight after I got home.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:37

I bought the stream.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:40

And it was such a cool, yeah, cool, cool memory to have.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:43

Just to do it at home too, yeah. Like home track, yeah. You know, early 2000s, I think they started the New Zealand stock car title. And then all those years we've only ever had two South Island cars podium, which was um Ben Smith. He won it in Greymouth, which we I qualified for the rip charge again over there and got a flat tie, so we had to get on the pole line and we helped him. And you know, there was other boys, you know, like Wade and Harley, and there was other boys there that were, you know, all the South Island just gelled together and hooked in. And so he was the first one, he got one NZ. And then um, yeah, same again here, just you know, he was Harley's the second of a South Island card ever number. So it's got that's what definitely a member of the bigger.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:25

Is it because it was has it always been up in the north or does it still swap each other? It's on like a rolling rotation, so it's slowly north.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:32

Nah, not so much. Was it the North Island like five years and then it will come here, and then now it's slow the rotation's slowly coming around, so it will be like two in the north, one in the south, two in the north, one in the south under the hill. And then it's ten years.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:46

So so to get a South Island number on it. Oh, it's massive. It's nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:50

That's good. Prior to that, the three-month conversation was if we if we don't get a South Island car on the podium, we've absolutely had a beer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:58

The whole island just no good.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

But that final was like you'll ask any North Island driver as well, that was in it. It was like it was a north first south final, and that's like it threw it so far back to stock car racing, original stockcar racing.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:09

It was so cool to and the cool thing up with a race too, like you know, everyone come in, like you know, you're gonna be gutted that you've been taken out, but everyone coming and we're shaking hands and having beers, and uh, it's just a good stock car racing.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:21

Exactly. And the thing is, because it's so obviously you lot do it over here all the time. People going into that race, you know, you've got people going in there knowing that you've got Harley there that can win it, and he's got good good people around him. You're going in there, right? If he goes in with a mindset, they shouldn't be taken out, blah blah blah, I should be going to win. You're gonna be upset. If you go in there with a mindset like, right, I've got to survive these lot, beat Harley, blah blah blah. And if he does it, it's like yeah, bang. Yeah, fuck you, right. I don't know. But then if he doesn't, it's like, you know what, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:49

And that's what Caleb done this year. He went back to back out. And and he, if you know, if it wasn't Harley, anyone else that deserved it was him for sure. Yeah, you know, and 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:57

It's all about the mindset in them, isn't it? It's all about the mindset, whether you're going to win or you're going to block. Yeah, it's the mindset to not get upset and not get annoyed, it is what it is. But you've got to do your best to beat who's out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

Yeah, you go out that pit gate knowing that your race could end with a flat right front tyre.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:12

Yeah, and turn one and that's it, you're done, you pack that up.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:15

Or you'd almost rather go out knowing or it could end with you getting followed in by a back marker and mate boy taking you out, taking don't pass you on the last corner.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:23

You would rather, to be fair, you'd rather end that way than losing a title for a right front flat like 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:30

Exactly, people know you give it your best.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

So I can't do my first ever podcast in New Zealand without talking about teams. Teams racing is a massive thing over here. It's the biggest thing, is it not?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:40

Yeah. Metters, stock cars, and superstocks, like things racing as, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

Yeah, which we we don't get any of that really. The closest we get in the UK is bangers. So bangers, although it's not official, they do do team meetings, they have done, but the bangers, a lot of them all racing teams, whether it's two guys, one guy, or ten. You know, they all paint the same colour. And if you hit one of their cars or you follow one of their cars in, if the other one's coming round, a lot of them have a rule, but you do not go past that car. If there's one stuck in the behind your car, in front of the behind your car, they dive in. That's the closest we sort of get to team racing in the UK. So obviously, we have Team GB that come over here every year, run by Frankie Wayman, and obviously his boy Frankie Weyman Jr. Jr., who is one of the best blockers, everyone keeps saying, he's really good. And them two are both obviously set on winning this team GB. But talking from to New Zealand, obviously I spoke to Frankie Wayman, he loves it, absolutely loves it, and he's his dream now is to win the New Zealand Palmerston uh Palmerston? Yeah, Palmerston. Palmerston team champs. So for you guys growing up, uh watching the teams, is it as big as what the F1 boys coming over and say it's like?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:45

Yeah, yeah. I can't explain until you go there. Yeah. So the Palmerston teams meeting.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:51

Just the atmosphere and everything about the whole weekend, like they do the screenering at the square, and you're fizzed up from the Wednesday before you catch the flight to go there, and you know, it's just because I've seen like the promotion they do in the town beforehand with all the teams driving through it and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:05

Like that's mad, and it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:06

So yeah, the vehicle checking and stuff there. And there's no vehicle checking there, yeah. And there's no other meeting that's even close to that, you know, like the in the square, and it's yeah, it's what involvement have you guys had in that?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:19

Have you um I I always I went when I was 17. Um Yeah, I went, that was the first time I ever went. Obviously, you watched every stream that you possibly could when they were when they started streaming it, like live streaming. Went when I was 17 with uh two mates, don't remember much of it because I was trolley. But that's what you know. It's palmy, you go in here and you're like you're having a beer.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:46

Are you allowed to drink that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's because obviously over here it's a no-go, innit?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:51

Yeah, not during the meeting. Yeah, during the meeting. So over there you're you're Parmy, you yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:55

Okay, yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:55

Yeah, so he's so I was yeah, that was 17-year-old Will. Yeah, 17-year-old Will just enjoying the moment. And I think the Tigers were running, the Tigers lost. We had Tiger onesies on, Nelson Tigers, and then uh one of my mates that had it lit it on fire and threw it off the grandstand. Yeah, and then he realised how much of a mistake that was because he had just like undies and t-shirt underneath like he was freezing. And um that was the it was my first ever time I went to it. And the second time, and so any other time I've been, I just every single time that I wanted to go, like me and my partner Taylor, she wants she wants to go, but it just never works out. It's the same, something always in the one reason or another, yeah. Yeah, so I um it was not la not this year, it's last year, was my first time going properly, and so I went, so we sponsor Jay Holfen and his racing and his stock car and a super stock, and um he rang me up. He he asked me like probably about a month leading up to it, he was in the Glen Eagles.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:51

Yeah, it was a very successful team.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:53

Yeah, so if I wanted to come up and help him out, and I was like, oh yeah. Crew for him, yeah, crew for him and come up and experience, and I was like, Oh yep, sweet. Yep. I said I actually at the time I said no, I was too busy with work, I was the commitment, and then it was lit, it was the Sunday before, and he said that his crew he didn't have a big crew, uh, but he was obviously still going up, he'd been selected for the team. And I said, Um, right, I'll I'll see what I can do. And the next thing you know, I was flying into Christchurch driving up with him on the Wednesday, and we went went up with him, and that was the first time I'd even been a part of that, and I was in the pits with the Glen O'Leals.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:30

First time to be a part of the team doing doing that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:33

And um yeah, and then they won it that year. It was the last time that they won it, they missed it out this year, but that was the last time they won, and um it was the most out the gate. Like race individual racing is cool, but being a part of that, and I wasn't even in the driver's seat, you know. Like it was such a.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:48

No, but you were still a big part of the team.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:50

Oh, it was a massive, massive team thing. Like after the race and the final race, and everyone came in, like, it was yeah, it was crazy. Every single it didn't matter what trailer it was from, everyone was hugging each other, and it was like yeah, you can see exactly what it meant to everyone. And um, yeah, so that was my first ever like experience with that. We did have um stockcar teams racing where we sponsored um the Grizzlies. We tried to bring the well, they tried to bring the Gri Greymouth Grizzlies back, which is the stockcar team from there, and um Which is your home track. Which was my home track, yeah. So we we we did the naming right sponsor for that, and they come back out and done mainlands here, and yeah, it was just it was hard racing that mainlands run out. You had a couple of cars in your workshop to rebuild. Yeah, some written gear. Yeah, it was brutal. So but for the parmy side of things, that was my first thing, and oh that was cool. I'll definitely be I think we've our plans to go back next year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

Going out and watching it one thing, but then being part of a team, especially the time you went there and they won. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:51

Yeah, yeah, there was an it was that Harley Jay was on a so pretty much the exact same team as this year. It was the exact same team. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:57

So have you ever been? Top of crew?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

Oh, you have? My brother Harley is is in the Eagles.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:03

Yeah, I've been in the last for 35 years now, I think. Yeah, my first time was I think I was about 12, 13. Four. Yeah. 2004. I think it was the first time. Um my nan and granddad actually owned a car that my uncle was driving. But um, he was selected for the team back then, so I was shit, you know, we jumped in and I've never even crossed the water before, so it was a whole new bloody trip for me. Um yeah, we went up there and the same sort of thing. I was sort of on the spanners or I don't remember, probably on the rag to be fair, wiping bloody panels and bodying that down, but um everyone's your job. Yeah, yeah, and that was sort of yeah, sort of hooked me really, to be fair. Sort of thinking, shit, this this is bloody old. And then being a part of it and seeing the bumpers getting wrecked and watching how people would cut them off and how they'd replace stuff and shit, I was sort of thinking, you know. Sort of sticking in your head. Yeah, always a bit of hands on, so I sort of.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Fuck yeah, we could probably look at doing something like that in the future and yeah, so that was the first time, and then you were being up a couple of times with Harley and crewed for him and been up on the bears, and not that I remember that a hell of a lot, but yeah, it's definitely it's cool to see two different sides of it, like to actually watch it. You kind of need to do both, I think.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:19

Like you've got to go and get on the piss and go to the party and do that side of teams, and then you've got to go and be involved, like be involved in a team, or just in the pits and passing if you're passing spanners or whatever, like just be involved and then go up and watch your team do good, or you know, even if they don't do good, it's still being a part of the street. Just proud to be involved.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:38

Something like that is just brutal, innit?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:40

Like when you see like four cars or they're six cars and six cars pull out of that gate dressed up exactly the same. If you're not horned up after that, mate, like honestly, it's it's such a it's such a berserk, like it's so crazy to see.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:54

It's and like the time of money that goes into it, man. Like, you know, yeah years ago you'd just you'd just have a bloody spray painted red body and you'd black numbers, and you know, that was a team, but now they're getting full full reps and all the big double wings and you know, like the merchant. They're going out 100%, man. Like it's a big show.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

And obviously the money they're spending is crazy, crazy, crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:17

Oh yeah, it's next level, eh? It's definitely superstock teams, is definitely up here compared to stock cars. Yeah, you know, we've done stock car teams for years and been a part of all that and this and that, and it's yeah, you've definitely got to go to Palmy Teams.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

Definitely, it's on it's on the bucket list. Yeah, before coming here, that was on my bucket list to come here and and go and watch an experience. Obviously, but obviously, then I've got this opportunity, so Palmy Teams can wait. Yeah, yeah, they've got to wait a couple of years, eh? Yeah, exactly. But no, it's good, it's quality, it's good to hear what you boys you boys are as ged up and as horned up, as we say, as what the the English guys are coming over to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:52

Yeah, yeah. So no, it's good. And everyone respects him when they come over, and that, like you know, I've said for the past five or six years, you know, like they need to win it. They've got to win it just you know, because Frankie's put so much into it. Yeah, he just needs to hold that or have his name on that trophy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:08

You know, so it's probably I I reckon if he wins it, he'd give up then.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:11

Oh, 100% give it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:12

He'd break down into his first, yeah, and then he'd be like, oh I'm done yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:16

But wasn't there a good reason to retire to all, you know? He's won it all then, yeah. Because he's won the two forties over here. He's won the biggest race you can win in Holland, which is the second. It's actually more F1s in Holland than it is in the UK, and then he's won the everything you can win in the in the UK as well for him to then go do it in the teams.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:32

I think then it'll be like that big ticket like that. You can see it now, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:38

It'd be done. And it'd be good, it'd be cool to do it. And I'm glad there are new lot obviously do cheer them on a little bit, you know. Respect what they do.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:45

When the when the palms come here, like it's they bring such a different atmosphere, you know. You've got all your normal, you know, all your normal track teams and stuff like from here. Yeah, but you see them step out. If when you're there, you should hear the cheer that comes up from the crowd. Like when the meets in shit shape, man, like everyone just cheers them on out. It's such a and like I remember the first time I seen it on. I was on a stream watching it and seeing Charlie Sword of climb the fence. And like that there just sits in my head rent-free, mate. Like, it was just such a cool thing, and everyone just was just like, you know, he was up on the fence as high as he could go. Just getting the crowd going, he was going, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:24

He he made up for it in a show boat, and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:27

Yeah, so he it's just cool, and that's the that's the thing, you know, that's you guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

So yeah, good, it's good. I'm glad to hear it. Right, moving on, we've got future plans. Wilson, your first proper season in a good car, proper car. Yeah, part of this team. Obviously, you've got your workshop, you've got you know, you you're going for it. This is your last uh meeting, points meeting, and then you've got an off-season, which we spoke about. You're gonna do a couple of upgrades to the car, yeah, and then next season is it full time again? Yeah, yeah. You're gonna be going for that next step.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:56

I think uh the plan for next season will be much the same, a lot of individual racing, but uh, we definitely want to try and uh take the like the teams racing side of things off.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:06

In the stockcards, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:07

Obviously, with the grill uh the crushers winning the uh New Zealand stock car teams this year, it means that the stock car teams title from like national teams title comes to Christchurch next year.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:17

So the Christchurch Crushers won it. Yeah, the the stockcar version.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:24

If anyone doesn't know, superstocks is more like the F1s in the UK, and then the stock cars are more like the F2s, but they're the same chassis, just less expensive basically. Yeah, um, so yeah, they won Christchurch did win it.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:36

Yeah, yeah, right around this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:38

Was Harley Park then? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:39

Right, yeah, cool. Definitely.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:41

So that was the first time that traffic it's ever been on the South Warland. First time it's ever come this, like the trophy never crossed a bit of water before. Christchurch got it. So that was another highlight of the season, to be fair for the cars and stuff as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:54

How many triple R cars did you have in it?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:56

Two. Uh three three in the Crushes team, and then two in Dunedin and one in the Crumble team. Don't worry about that. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:04

Because we've got smash them on top, and like they were getting smashed, man, and uh just all fuck the gear and they'd go like so you have three triple R cars in the stock car teams this year, and the big the biggest one for stock car team racing. Nice, which you boys won. So that means it's gonna be in Christchurch for next year. So is that you gonna try get on the Christchurch team?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:22

I'd love, yeah, I'd love to it's gonna be a hard, it's gonna be a very interesting season next year, I think, because obviously the Crushers will like to probably maintain and defend the title themselves with them drivers. Correct, yeah. Because it's only fair and it makes sense, it is, but then at the same time, as uh from a team point of view, they want to present their best team forward, you know. So, like if I can go out there and try to prove myself throughout the season that I'm either somewhat capable, I like to me, I I just want to be a part of it. Yeah, I don't know, like I just want to be a part of it. I'd love to I'd love to race for the crushers, yeah. But with there's talks of other things in the pipelines as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:00

So the when is the stock car teams?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:05

It'll be probably like February or something, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:08

February. What's that? Mid season February.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:09

I've got a feeling that's March to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:11

Oh, so it's towards the end of the season, yeah. So right, so you haven't got to worry about crushing your car, smashing your car up during the season. No, we'll just build them another one. Right, yeah. We've got that, but do you know what I mean? If if it was in the middle of the season, you're gonna jeopardise because you use the same car for your team. Yeah. So you're gonna jeopardise absolutely wrecking your car. Yeah. But because it's at the end, it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:30

This season, I this season I got asked to put my hand up for the crushers to run. And I the only reason I didn't was because it was my first proper season and I was enjoying the individual racing so much. I didn't want to go not so much get put off by it, but I just wanted to enjoy that. Yeah, enjoy that and take it in. So, you know, I now I've had the season that I wanted, you know, like I've I've achieved everything that I sort of more than what I sort of thought I was going to achieve, and then so now I'm like, okay, what's next? Yeah, you know. 100%. Yeah, I'm always like, what's next? And I want to improve that bit in the individuals, but then also I want to I probably ring Dill once a week, twice a week, and ask him what can we do? Cool, like what's three times a day.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:12

Three times a day. Even I've noticed that.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:15

What else is on the pipelines, you know, and like I'm always trying to think ahead, like whether it's racing or anything else in my life.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:21

You are fully into it then. Yeah, um you're fully set.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:24

Yeah, cool. He's horned up.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

He's horned up. Let's do that. He's fucking horned up. And then triple R, Dylan. Where are we going? Moving forward, we spoke about a little bit. What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

Yeah, Sammy. Like, I'll probably just not race a hell of a lot. Just I think we're gonna be building eight, maybe ten cars this offseason.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:45

Which is gonna be this car's obviously gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:48

Yep, yeah, freezing up space. Sold that sold China's car. So that frees up space. Uh I had two other lease cars as well this season. And that was running two, three, four, five, we're running seven stock cars this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:00

Right, yeah. So not only do you build, repair them, you also you call it lease, but we call it rent. Yeah, rent or lease them out. Rental, you do rental packages as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:06

You still had four cars on lease this season and just gives people the opportunity to actually have a skid and without a heap of money, yeah, yeah. So um yeah, we've done that. I've sold all of uh all but one of them. Um so it's time for a clear out. Yeah, just a re-gathering start. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:25

You say you've got eight, eight on the go straight away as soon as we're done.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:28

Yeah, eight's probably more looking like ten, but um, yeah, we'll just we'll start with eight and then and will you build them all at once, or is it how many can you build at once? Uh last season we'd done six, six in the off season.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:41

So is that literally gonna be chassis rails in that one? That moves to the next bit, chassis rails in this one, and then you'll have somewhere else maybe add the next couple of bits.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:48

Nah, sort of spend a whole week just there cutting a whole heap of steel. It's boring as hell, but just go and cut a whole heap of stuff and obviously we've got it pretty down packed now, so everything's staying the same. So we can go and we've got jigs and stuff, so we'll go and cut, you know, eight of this and eight of that, and then you know that might go on for two weeks, and then the next week after that, we'll just go and we'll tack everything together, and then next thing, like you know, you've got a coffin and um we can add on from there and so you'll pre-make all like the bumpers and yeah, we'll pre-make the bumpers, side rails.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:19

As much as you can will all be pre-made. And obviously, you've got the old man over here does he said that he does the actual front axles, rear axles for you. Yeah, yeah. So he'll be doing so while you're while you're doing the chassis, he's doing the rest of them bits ready to start bolting on.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:31

Yeah, yeah, 100%. So we can probably build uh maybe probably half of the car before we actually start the chassis itself, you know, like diffs and beams and arms and shock powers and you know, wheel gates and side rails and all that.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:45

So you've got you've got systems in place now, templates, jigs, everything. So should be a lot easier, but it's gonna make it.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:53

Last season was probably the first season we not had spare time, but we actually invested in in sort of we're you know, we're getting extra length of steel just to cut up to make jigs. So you know, if we bend the bumper corner around, we can just grab it and trace it and away you go. You know, it takes the thinking out of it. So now we've got that sort of sorted, and all the cars are staying the same, whether the Falcon and Holden's drive shafts and gearboxes, and you know, that package is the package, so yeah, you know, we've obviously like um Hadley's cars got runs a different gearbox to us, but worst case we've got enough spears to convert him to what we run to get him back out.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:29

And yeah, yeah, so there's plenty going on then.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:33

Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. A bit more space in the new workshop. December. Right, so only only just really yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:44

This is like the dream workshop.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:45

Oh, the old workshop you'd go to I've seen a picture. Yeah, you'd go to it with your fingers crossed and just hope like how it wasn't raining that day because we'd have to set the welder up outside and bandsaws, and you know, and we built six cars out of that shed plus the repair work, so there was that's just last year. That was just last year, and then obviously the years three or four years beforehand, we were also doing them outside, and you know, I had my shed and dad has his shed, so he'd I'd palm shit off to him and he'd do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:12

And every time I go to that shed, there was like I don't know if you've ever seen the the um the movie The Castle, but it was like it's a I have a real old school New Zealand movie, and it used to say, like, can you move the Holden so I can get to the beamer so I can move that so I can get to the Falcon and then it's like that's what it used to be like, like and then someone would just spontaneously bring another car in, and you're like, Oh that's just ruined the algorithm, yeah, you know, and like oh what am I gonna do with that?

SPEAKER_03 1:39:38

But you know we'd probably spend an hour and a half each morning and each night just just pulling shit out to make room. Like it now. I look back, I'm thinking, like, how did we even build 23 cars out of there, you know? But we just made no, we just made it happen and you know we had a hell of a time and yeah, built mem good memories and shit out of that shed and obviously. Yeah, so then we got the opportunity to have the bigger shed and yeah, thanks to uncle and auntie and that. So yeah, it's bloody awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:09

Nice wicked. Well, it's good. I think we wrap it up there. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant, nice talking to you guys. Obviously, I've known you for the last week now, but getting to know everything a lot more about you. Hopefully, this gives a bit of an insight to the UK people about the stock car racing on the South Island as well. And hopefully we have a good couple of weekends of racing. Busy, eh?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:28

Yeah, busy, yeah, yeah. We'll get you out there, show you what that's about.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:33

Right, cheers boys, thank you everyone for watching. Hope you enjoyed it, and we'll see you in the next one.