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The Dillon Baker Show
The Dillon Baker Show is a podcast dedicated to reshaping and refocusing American Protestantism. Hosted by Dillon Baker—a former seminary student, mortgage professional, and content creator—this show dives into the pressing issues facing the Church today. From church history to biblical masculinity, from theological debates to cultural commentary, no topic is off-limits.
Dillon engages in thought-provoking conversations with pastors, theologians, historians, cultural commentators, and influential Christian voices. Episodes explore everything from the seeker-sensitive movement’s failures to the role of tradition in modern worship, the cultural war within the Church, and the future of Protestant leadership.
With a direct, no-nonsense style, The Dillon Baker Show isn’t just about talking—it’s about building. This podcast is part of a larger mission to reignite Protestant conviction, challenge weak theology, and foster a movement of bold, biblically grounded leaders.
If you’re tired of shallow Christianity and hungry for depth, truth, and real reform, welcome to the conversation.
The Dillon Baker Show
Are "Mega" Churches Pivoting in 2025? w/ Pastor Aaron Brockett
In this episode, I sit down with Aaron Brockett, Lead Pastor of Traders Point Christian Church—one of the largest churches in Indiana. We dive into the ongoing Mega Church Debate and discuss some of the biggest challenges facing modern Christianity.
We cover:
✅ The Mega Church Model—its strengths, weaknesses, and common objections
✅ Aaron Renn’s “Negative World” Theory and what it means for the Church today
✅ The role of Traditional Liturgy and why many young men are drawn to it
✅ The shifting landscape of Church Leadership and cultural engagement
Traders Point is a multi-campus church that has seen significant growth under Brockett’s leadership. But is the seeker-sensitive approach still the best model for the future? We dig deep into what’s working, what’s missing, and where the Church needs to go from here.
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Let me know your thoughts in the comments—Is the mega-church model sustainable? Should churches return to a more traditional structure?
0:00 - Intro to Aaron Brockett
3:30 - Define Terms - Mega Church, Evangelicals, Protestantism, Discipleship
10:45 - What does your Church do to Track Biblical Maturity
16:15 - What is the goal of the Sunday Morning Service
19:25 - Preaching to Believers First
25:21 - The Desire for Traditions and Liturgy
32:36 - Modern Worship Problem
42:23 - Reinventing the Church / Seeker-sensitive Movement
50:55 - Young Men Are Searching
55:08 - Aaron Renn "Negative World" Theory
59:30 - Worried About and Excited About
1:02:25 - Are we on the verge of another Great Awakening?