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Konnected Minds Podcast
Konnected Minds: Success, Wealth & Mindset. This show helps ambitious people crush limiting beliefs and build unstoppable confidence.
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Konnected Minds Podcast
From Shatta Michy to Michelle Gbagonah: The Journey to Financial Independence
Freedom can mean different things at different stages of life. For Michelle Gbagonah, also known as Michy GH, it began as a rebellious child's desire to escape protective boundaries. Today, it represents something far more powerful – financial independence, mental clarity, and business ownership that builds generational wealth.
This conversation pulls back the curtain on Michelle's remarkable transformation from entertainment personality to strategic entrepreneur. As she shares, "I have been every type of woman," having worked as a musician, TV host, actress, and now CEO of multiple businesses including Juice Bae and Majelle Farms. The turning point came unexpectedly – a business logo designed by her nine-year-old son sparked an entrepreneurial journey she hadn't planned for 2025.
Michelle speaks with refreshing honesty about the environments that previously limited her growth. "Sometimes you can be in a space and feel you are not capable because you're not growing in that space," she reflects. This realization helped her break free from relationships and situations that suppressed her potential, allowing her true capabilities to emerge. Now managing several successful businesses simultaneously, she maintains a disciplined approach to wealth-building that contrasts sharply with her earlier "hands to mouth" relationship with money.
Her agricultural ventures reveal a forward-thinking business mind. With African agriculture projected to be worth billions by 2030, Michelle has positioned herself in this growing market despite challenges with staffing and scale. Her practical advice cuts through typical entrepreneurial platitudes: "On a small scale, farming is lucrative for the market woman, not the farmer," demonstrating her commitment to building substantial, scalable operations.
Whether you're looking to transition careers, start a business, or simply understand the mindset of successful entrepreneurs, Michelle's journey offers valuable insights into authentic growth and financial independence. As she advises those feeling unmotivated: "Start afraid, just start." Her story proves that by following your intuition and maintaining disciplined focus, transformational success is possible.
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I have struggled becoming Michelle Bagonor today. If I'm going to be honest, the only thing I ever craved and looked for growing up was freedom. What does that freedom mean to you Now?
Speaker 2:freedom to me is by the year 2030, they said, the agricultural business in Africa is going to be worth billions of USD. Put your foot in there nicely. So I want you to talk me through what you have done and how somebody can model that.
Speaker 1:Um so.
Speaker 2:The 22 year old who's looking at it, thinking I want to get into farming. Do you think, at a scale you have, is it lucrative enough for them to go into?
Speaker 1:Okay, so farming is tricky.
Speaker 2:Looking at you on the screen, the energy I see, cannot be a person. Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1:I still am in love.
Speaker 2:Until I'm in love. Hit the subscribe button and become part of the family. Today's conversation is with Diamond Michelle Bagona, and she's a queen mother. Today's conversation we're going to be talking about money, success, personal growth, transitioning into who she is today. Michelle is also known as Michi GH. She's crafted her own identity, her own path and now, even though people know her in music, as a tv host, as an actress, she's transitioned into being a businesswoman. And this conversation I just want to find out why it's taking her so long to transition into that business, and then also the lessons she's learned from her life, her, her past, everything that she's been through. This isn't just a story. It is about reinvention, financial independence and emotional growth. Stick with me and stay with me as I speak with the CEO and the founder of Juice Bae. How are you really Like? That's the question. Like, how are you doing?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm fine, I'm very fine, I'm all over, if I can put it that way. My personalities pop up every now and then. You know, so it shows in my work. The ads bring out that. You know. So I'm okay. Generally I'm exhausted, but mentally, spiritually, I'm ready to move every time I wake up.
Speaker 2:Every single time you wake up, every single time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm ready to move.
Speaker 2:Your growth has been beautiful to watch, thank you. I'm sure your fans, your followers, will testify that it's been like this. But then it's been very exponential and the separation and the brand that you have now has been beautiful. You know. Now, looking at where you started, it's like you know the profile has got music, it's got TV host. It's like you know the profile has got music, it's got TV host, it's got queen mother, it's got entrepreneur, it's got several things. Yeah, the biggest question that comes to mind is what's really the motivation?
Speaker 1:Would I call it a motivation? It's just my personality, my several personalities. It's crazy we're talking about this now because last night I was putting together like a collage of my journey. I call it a journey and I have been every type of woman. From my own observation, I have been every kind of woman. I have tried my hands at several things. Would it be a motivation? I think I'm just in motion every time. Within me and outwardly I'm in motion. I thrive on moving. I can't sit at one place and I don't just want to be moving and doing nothing. I'm a jack of all trades, master of all, I try to be. If I don't know how to do something, I would accept the job. I'll learn how to do it and give my best, you know. So I'm motivated by moving, by motion, if you can put it that way yeah, that must have a root.
Speaker 2:It must have. There must be a reason why that fire keeps burning in you, that makes you do several things. If you take it all the way back, where does that come from?
Speaker 1:I would give that to my son. You know, I've always been in motion, but this time I'm moving with more purpose, more discipline, more. You know I'm more responsible in my movement. I'm not just jumping into anything, you know. So I say my son is definitely the root for now, for this new phase of mine. Yes, yeah, but before I was moving, because I wanted to move, I wanted to um, it's not always been about making a mark, it's just me living and fortunately or unfortunately, I'm either in trouble for living or I'm being praised for living. Any which way, I'm still living. So it's just me as a person.
Speaker 1:It's just me as a person. Like I said, I have several personalities. Okay, talk to me about that I wake up a different woman every day. How I?
Speaker 2:don't know how. So how have people came up to us today?
Speaker 1:Today I'm in my very demure mood. Let's call it that I'm here to meet you. So I'm kind of starstruck. I'm feeling cool today. Yesterday I was in work mood, yeah, ready to get things done, literally enter the market myself to sell my harvest Standing on my truck, mm-hmm, yes.
Speaker 2:Standing on it, oh yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I do sell. I sell a lot of stuff. So I turned a luxury vehicle into a work vehicle. Yeah, so every day I turned a luxury vehicle into a work vehicle. Yeah so every day I'm a different person. I'm either calm, I'm hyped, I'm ready to, you know, but I never wake up too dull to move.
Speaker 2:You never wake up too dull to move. No.
Speaker 1:I'm never too dull to move, Maybe just once a month. The ladies will get it. Ah right.
Speaker 2:Okay, would you say, you're an extrovert.
Speaker 1:Extrovert, I say when Right when necessary Okay. Yeah, but I am 80% an introvert. I like my solitude, I like my alone time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, growing up did you find that you had to prove yourself a lot of the time? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:To family. Yes, you know, the expectations are very high sometimes and I, for one, hardly ever met them. I only met them with my grades. For one, hardly ever met them, I only met them with my grades. So that was always like you know my way to. Oh, she's brilliant, but she's stubborn. If I'm learning and I'm still trying to be a little rebellious, you know. Take the good side.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying why are you still expecting. I'm just trying to match where you are today and what you're doing to how you started off yeah you know growing up, because and I think you've said it quite well I can only imagine that there were times in your life where you felt like you had to do so much to prove to people that, yes, um, you are worthy of getting either praise or recognition or being seen.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, I haven't really struggled with being seen. It was more of being seen for the wrong reasons, wrong reasons in the people's eyes. Like I said, unfortunately I've been in trouble and the bad news, bad press for living. So to me, I'm living that free bird lifestyle, you know, and then it ends up. So I've not really struggled being in the light. I have struggled becoming Michelle Bagoner today and it's crazy how I'm still not struggling to be seen. I'm also not doing too much because I have realized I mean, I'm living my most authentic self. I'm, I am my most authentic self right now and you are taking me as you get me or you're forgetting about it, but everybody seems to be liking the authentic self. Right, but how long has it taken you to get here?
Speaker 1:um I can't put a duration on it, but I think major change came in in days. In a day or so I just woke up and I'm like I need to switch. I didn't need to. The mind switched on its own. So I do take a lot of time with myself. Like I said, solitude is everything to me. I can think, I can talk to myself, I can write down my notes, I can analyze my own self. I'm my biggest critic. So if I sit down, I'm like you can do this better. I make sure I do it. You motivate yourself. Oh, yes, I do. I do A lot of people that I do, I do, I do.
Speaker 2:A lot of people that tend to motivate themselves and push themselves a lot. They also tend to be Sometimes the switch can also be on the emotional side, where they can find themselves like almost because sometimes that happens to me right where it becomes overwhelming okay so much to take. You see what I'm trying to say as in the stress or the motivation the stress, oh oh yeah, it does get overwhelming.
Speaker 1:It does. As I said, alone time is very necessary for everybody. Zone out as and when you can, without thinking of the next person, unless you're gonna miss a business deal or something. Feel free to zone out. It's good for your mental health, right.
Speaker 2:So, michelle, growing up young Michelle, what plans did you have for your life?
Speaker 1:This question is hard. If I'm going to be honest, the only thing I ever craved and looked for growing up was freedom. I wasn't the typical child who said I want to be a doctor, I want to be this All those things were said by the people around me, but I, for one, wanted freedom. I've always looked for freedom. I was brought up in a very protective home, like to even leave the house and buy something. You know. Sleepovers, school trips no, never. So I felt like I was caged.
Speaker 1:You know, it was for my own good, yes, but the only thing I ever wanted growing up was freedom. So if I ever rebelled, it was a search for that freedom, you know, and I still don't have anything. I, you know, really say I'm going to be this, what I want to be is fulfilled. I want to leave a lasting mark on the people who come in contact with me every day, and I see that happening. I'm not making too much effort, but a lot of people are taking inspiration from my life, day in, day out. I meet ladies, they talk about it and I'm not doing anything too special, I'm just living.
Speaker 2:What does that freedom mean to you?
Speaker 1:Freedom, freedom, freedom. Now, freedom to me is financial freedom, one Mentally you need to be free. You cannot have obsessive thoughts and expect freedom from anywhere else, because that's the entanglement first that you have to deal with. So freedom in all aspects, except that I still have my son here, so I cannot just pick my bag and go somewhere. But that would have been the major part of freedom if I could just pick my bag and go somewhere when I do you think you're on that path to that freedom?
Speaker 2:you're so searchful. I am, but you so search for.
Speaker 1:I am, but I'm not sure of the opinion that I don't necessarily need the freedom. I would have gotten it a long time ago if I needed it. Right yeah, you won't get it.
Speaker 2:No, not yet. Yeah, maybe I'll get it later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you see from home to another place where I don't have that total freedom. Now, with my son, I have freedom. I don't have that total freedom to just do and move however I like there's always something standing there to make sure I'm in check. It's just how nature has made it for me. The universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sat down and thought about it.
Speaker 2:I'm like yeah so really, there is nothing like true freedom for you, men yes, there is, but not for women, no, no. I mean, I don't think I want to agree with this I don't think I personally don't think there's anything like true freedom you don't think so no well, so far as you are still chasing something every day, still looking for something it's never ending I can agree with you. Yeah, yeah. Because even our, desires bound us here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Your desires alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know can prevent you from moving being free.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:So that's my little understanding of it. The time came when you, you had a company, mm-hmm, topios, mm-hmm. What happened the time came? When you had a company, Chop Yours. What happened?
Speaker 1:Chop Yours is still running, so Chop Yours Foods is now legally registered, and under Chop Yours Foods we have Chop Yours Shitter that's selling to high school kids. And then we have Juice Bae. Juice Bae was designed the logo was designed by my son. If I tell you that this business was not part of my 2025 plans, you won't believe it. What happened? So, um, I just, you know, changed some things around the house. I'm like no more fizzy drinks. You know, let's go healthy, and at home, I always have to give something a nickname so that it would entice my son to kind of like it. You know if you're going to give him something. You know kids don't like their vegetables and their foods, so give it a nickname and so it's just baby. I'm like just baby, just baby, okay.
Speaker 1:And then I'm sitting there juicing one time and he comes to show me on his gadget that he made a logo with a tagline under it.
Speaker 2:Sorry, how old is he? He's nine Wow.
Speaker 1:He said I should call him a programmer. A programmer, a programmer. Wow, but that's incredible. Yeah, he likes to do this coding thing and he made a logo. I'm like, okay, let me print it out. You know, on something on a pouch, and I went with it.
Speaker 2:So the existing logo you're using was created by your son.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've not touched it. I told the graphic designer who printed out that do not touch. He was even surprised that I was a nine-year-old.
Speaker 2:You see, sometimes I really think that something really happens to responsible parents when they have children. Okay, Like I don't know, it's like some wire that I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's happened to me it's happened.
Speaker 2:Some people it's marriage, some people it's children. Okay, but if you're responsible enough, if that thought is ever there, a spouse or a child will do something to you.
Speaker 1:Definitely. My son did that for me. My son gave me something that I've not gotten.
Speaker 2:What do you think it is?
Speaker 1:It's just pure genuine love, a genuine connection. It's like he's thinking I'm thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2:Like this business entrepreneurship venture you're on. Do you think you're doing it because of him?
Speaker 1:I have always been like an entrepreneur. I've grown up seeing my mom run several businesses at the same time, so I'll say I got that from her. But you know, with I have to keep the home running. So definitely because of him I gotta work. But this food business is like everything is under the food. So we're gradually building the company. Okay, it's not like I'm just working for work and sick. No, we're building choppy's foods as an umbrella.
Speaker 2:Right, you know, with several companies under so the main, like the, the main company, yes, it's choppy's food. Yes, okay and Okay. And then everything else.
Speaker 1:And everything else Juice.
Speaker 2:Bacon everything else yes, and the farm project you have.
Speaker 1:So the farm was supposed to be under that, but I had to register it on its own. So we have Chopped Yours Foods and we have Magelle Farms. Combination of Michelle and Majesty.
Speaker 2:So, really, what's the plan?
Speaker 1:Like what's the plan for this whole entrepreneurship ventures like someday, someday, what's the what's the bigger picture? Like I said, it's an umbrella. So we're going to build all the companies till they have gone past survival. And then we were seeing we're looking at factories, we're looking at you know, I already I'm looking at my, my competitor in the market okay and it's a huge company.
Speaker 1:But you gotta set the dream very big. You know, I read a quote somewhere that says dream as big as you can and then give the bill to god. He can afford it. So me, I, I dream I have bought things without pain. When I say say this, I mean I have manifested things. I have claimed that I bought this before I even knew how I was going to get the money to buy it Okay. You know so. Queen, mother.
Speaker 2:You're going to have to explain a little bit. No, no, no, there's a young guy listening.
Speaker 1:It's the power of manifestation. You are who you think of manifestation. You, you are who you think you are. You are who you believe you. You get what you believe you get. So if you are always moving around like, oh, my business is struggling, your business will struggle. If you are grateful for the little progress you have made, it would increase, you know. So I feel like I'm manifesting everything I'm doing. I have a dream, I have a vision, and it's the pieces are coming together, you know you've always been entrepreneurial.
Speaker 2:Yes, I also heard in an interview that you did as well, but I think we are really seeing it now why.
Speaker 1:I have an answer to this, but I hope the answer will not be controversial. I will try to be as diplomatic as I can Be as diplomatic as I can. Until recently, until some happenings, I probably thought I was not capable. This is the first time I've held a business over one year, and it's not just one, it's several businesses in motion at the same time. Sometimes you can be in a space and you feel you are not capable because you're not growing in that space. You are not able to explore your own capabilities.
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Speaker 1:Are you getting it? I am yeah. That's as diplomatic as I can get. I am.
Speaker 2:I am.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised at myself sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm very surprised, Like wow, you're doing it and you are doing it very, very well. You know, before I didn't think I was because I've started businesses you think that the environment, the company we keep, has an influence on us Big time, big time.
Speaker 1:You are the company you keep on us Big time, big time. You are the company you keep, and it's either you are pushing them to grow and forgetting yourself, or expecting that, as you push them, they come back and push you. Human nature doesn't work like that. It's not a movie, this is not a telenovela. It's life. You can be in an environment where you feel you are giving your all and expecting, consciously or unconsciously, that the same will be done for you. At the end of the day, you'll find yourself rather being drained.
Speaker 2:Our environment, our network, our circle, when I look at you and forget like I'm not even talking about today. Yeah, Looking at you on the screen, the energy. I see, cannot be a person. Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1:Until I'm in love. No, seriously, you know, women we are naturally like that, some of us. Let me not generalize it, but I feel women were wired to let a man shine, you know. So I always say if I'm going to be with somebody, you need to pour into me, I need to see you appreciate what I'm doing. Not take from me. Taking from me can be as little as sarcastic comments. That can kill. It can totally kill a business idea before even you remember the question I've heard?
Speaker 2:I first asked you about little michelle, um what dreams you had yeah and then you spoke about, you know, seeking freedom, freedom, yeah. And then I've just asked you this question about why you did not start your entrepreneurial venture earlier on enough, and what you just said. Now I'm just thinking at a point in your life you wanted freedom away from something. At a point in your life you wanted to bring out your entrepreneurial venture, but you couldn't. Something was stopping you.
Speaker 1:It's happened twice in your life now.
Speaker 2:What lessons have you drawn from that?
Speaker 1:It's never happening again. It's never happening again, it's never happening again.
Speaker 2:How do you make?
Speaker 1:sure of that. I'm grown now. You know, mentally I'm grown. I know what I want, I know my worth and I'm not compromising. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not compromising. You are matching my energy or you are not? So if I have to do this journey alone and get to the top, I will. We'll meet at the top. There's no room for another of that to happen right now, Because you know I'm growing. I'm not getting any younger. By 40, I should be retired, you know, lying in my jacuzzi in Miami somewhere. That's right, you know. You speak a lot about your pension as well.
Speaker 2:I was watching some interviews and then you kept saying you know when I go on pension when I go on pension. Yeah, yeah, and I said no. This is such a correct thinking to have.
Speaker 3:Because you know we're not going to be like this forever.
Speaker 2:The time is going to come where, if you've been coming up these stairs, you see me punching. You're just catching up with me, so we really have to do something now.
Speaker 1:Either you're doing now, building wealth, or you're just going to continue blaming God and life. Sometimes you blame Satan.
Speaker 2:But, michelle, fame, fame. When you have fame here, this part of the world, what does it do to you mentally? Let me keep my thoughts, but let me ask you what does it do to you mentally that it makes? And let me keep my thoughts, but let me ask you, what does it do to you mentally?
Speaker 1:it can be draining. It can be draining because everybody has an opinion. But I always say, like they talk about what you give them, you can I give you what I want you to talk about? You know, I don't just give you news, I don't just so. You got to be cautious.
Speaker 1:I don't really consider me famous no, you don't no okay, I wouldn't be standing in the market selling selling juice made by the road. No, no, no, no. If you're going to consider yourself famous when you know that the bank account is not reflecting famous, then you're lying to yourself. You're telling yourself a big lie, you know. Are you using the fame to build that wealth or you're just going to keep showing up for the people who are calling you famous?
Speaker 2:Wow, that was a lie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a line. Yeah, because if you keep showing up for them, you go broke trying to prove that you are famous. They say you are famous. You got to dress up, dress apart, go to places that cost money, whereas you can still be famous. Popular. Let's call it popular. Yeah, popular, whereas you can still be famous, popular, let's call it popular.
Speaker 1:Popular right yeah, yeah yeah, yeah popular and you know kind of switch the dynamic around, you know usage for your benefit instead of just being famous. So I don't consider myself famous. No, I don't like the tag. Actually I'm popular, I don't like the tag.
Speaker 2:actually I'm popular. By the year 2030, they said, the agriculture business in Africa is going to be worth billions of USD. Billions.
Speaker 2:You've put your foot in there nicely. Some of the people that listen to me. It will surprise you that about 95% of my audience are young men 95. Okay, I don't know why, but I say that if the conversation is about how to make money, the men jump on to it Usually if it's you know entertainment and gossip, then it's something else yeah yeah, so I want you to talk me through what you have done and how somebody can model that agri-wise.
Speaker 1:So, luckily for us, we have a government in power that's pushing the agriculture agenda and it's a good time to take advantage. I'm still in the first phase. Let's say I've elevated a little to the second because we're harvesting. So we're harvesting okra and cucumbers. We're growing peppers as well on a two acre farm. It's not been all rosy. It's been quite a journey from land preparation to harvest, making mistakes with chemicals, with staff. So if anybody wants to do farming, yes you can. But be ready. Be ready for the stress. The Ghanaian employees attitude towards work will be your first problem, yes. So if you come visit me at the farm, you will realize that my staff are Nigerian. Why? That's what I said the Ghanaian employees attitude towards work. They feel like it's a feeling of entitlement, but they don't treat foreigners like that when they work for foreigners. I don't understand why, but the more we try to understand, the more time we're wasting, and so we just find who's ready to work. So it's that you know we're at harvest earlier than I expected.
Speaker 1:We're supposed to harvest yes, because they're dedicated and I'm learning on the job every day. You know I'm inviting people to come help me out. Advice, what do we do? What are we doing right, what are we doing wrong? So you should also be ready to take lessons from existing farmers. You know, doesn't have to be an elderly person like, trust me, so many people have such knowledge in farming that it will surprise you. They just walk in there like they don't know what's happening, yeah, so yeah, we're at a point where we're ready to expand. I'm ready to expand even though it's too soon, but I want to be able to have us on a larger scale, right? Yeah, I feel like I've, like you said, I've done a lot of jobs. I've done influencing, and I know how much I can make from shooting a video on my phone from the comfort of my home. So if I'm going to farm, I want to see the equivalent of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, makes sense, yeah, to be at that scale.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm grateful for where I am, but I can do much better.
Speaker 2:I don't have to wait till you know I've gained the knowledge you know, but at this level, to you it may not be, but to the 22 year old who's looking at it, thinking I want to get into farming, do you think at your level, at the scale you have, is it lucrative enough for them to go into?
Speaker 1:Okay. So farming is tricky. On a small scale it's lucrative for the market woman and not through the farmer. Yeah, yeah, because let's say I'm selling an entire basket of ochre for 300 series and she's going to count it Five pieces for maybe four series or five series. You know how many are in a basket, you understand. So she's making the money. But if I'm harvesting on a larger scale 10, 20 acres I don't have to bother about her, about the market woman sales, you understand, because I'm going to be making more money in multiples. So I don't mind, you can. Definitely, as a young person, I wish I would have started earlier. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. What's better than feeding yourself? There's some fulfillment in plucking my own veggies and you know it's Feed Ghana Project, feed Ghana.
Speaker 2:Project indeed For you, a lot of these projects that you're doing, is it? You know, sometimes it's like you need a lot of. You like your long time, but, like me, I get bored very easily, right? So over the years, I've started probably about 16 businesses, majority of them online, e-comm, dropshipping plenty, okay, right, because I get bored, so I want the next challenge, then the next, then the next. I mean, the past few weeks, I've been thinking about this podcast and I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to add more cameras instead, instead of five cameras. Okay, now, I'm going to add more cameras instead, instead of five cameras. Okay, now I'm going to add more cameras.
Speaker 1:You almost gave me a heart attack. Just to increase the challenge.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, and now I'm moving the studio to somewhere else, just to have round table conversation, so I get bored very easily For you all these projects that you're doing, is it because you also want some activities happening, or it's actually deeply rooted in a bigger goal? You see what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1:Definitely rooted in a bigger goal and, if you notice, all my jobs are centered around people, so I enjoy taking care of people, I enjoy being the people's person. You know I'm mother to all, so I find myself doing stuff that definitely involve. You know, like I said, the bigger picture, the bigger goal is the factories for the Jews. You know expanding, which we're currently going to do. We have an NGO as well.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, project SOS. Yes.
Speaker 1:SOS, yes, so now I have three legally registered businesses that I have to build, and that is my focus for the next.
Speaker 2:How many years?
Speaker 1:Two Okay yeah, okay yeah. I feel like now I'm in a comfortable lead. So two years max, I'm in a comfortable lead.
Speaker 2:So two years max. You know part of the reason why sometimes I keep moving from one business to the other or in the past it used to happen a lot was because when I'm doing one thing and maybe this is making me like $100 a day and then I move into the next venture and it's making me $200 and I leave this one. Oh no. Right.
Speaker 1:Now I know better.
Speaker 2:so my question is if you get a business that is making you more money than you're making now, would you just leave these ones and go?
Speaker 1:no, no no, you should have different streams of income, right? So for every company I have an account. I don't touch money from here. I don't touch money from here. You, you shouldn't just leave it to me. That's being inconsistent and I don't like feeling inconsistent at all. Like I said, I felt like that before. I felt inconsistency to me is not being capable, and so if I've tested being capable, I'm not going back. If I hold something, I get something. That's making much more. We're adding it to the routine. Let's go. You know, I wish I can clone myself.
Speaker 2:Sometimes, oh, yeah, yeah, because you know you can count on yourself and get the job done Seriously.
Speaker 1:I would definitely not leave one job hanging for another. No, not anymore.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Now, anyway, on the 29th of August the British Council we have our first live event and it's titled Revealing the Success Code. So it's actually going to be teaching. It's not going to be storytelling, like me telling you my story. I'm going to teach you some strategies. There's going to be a few other people. There's going to be five speakers. I'm not going to release them yet, so I'm going to put all the details in the description and you can register your interest if you want to show up for that event. Let's talk about what's your biggest regret.
Speaker 2:And remember this is a learning.
Speaker 1:I have to think about that. Let's not call it regrets, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's call them lessons. So I don't have no regrets. No, if I could go back in time, I'll do a lot of things differently, but unfortunately I don't have no regrets. No, if I could go back in time, I'll do a lot of things differently, but unfortunately I don't have the opportunities. So let's just say everything has been a lesson, no regrets.
Speaker 2:The young girl that is looking at you now, thinking what can I learn from her path? What would you tell them?
Speaker 1:Just be yourself and let life take you where you are supposed to go, not where you want to go. Where you are supposed to go. I say this because becoming a queen mother was nothing I ever thought about would happen to me. And this opportunity comes and it's a total lifestyle change. At the time, my inner voice was telling me the same thing. It's like you've gotten to a point you need to listen to yourself. You realize there's a small voice in your head. The more you listen to it, the louder it gets, and I can tell you for a fact that before becoming a few weeks, I could feel changes. I feel like I'm drawn to something else, not what I was drawn to even probably a few weeks ago, and I listened to me in everything Seriously, and so when it happened, I'm like let me take this opportunity, it's the step forward. So I've not planned a life, but I'm allowing life to take me where I'm supposed to go.
Speaker 2:That's because you are in a place of knowing now. Yes, but that young girl may not be at that place of knowing.
Speaker 1:If you shut out the noise, you can be. I met a couple of very wise young people who are aware of themselves. It's not cheating. You don't need to be old enough to know yourself. You just need to quiet your mind, quiet yourself, analyze. It shouldn't be too difficult. I wish somebody had told me this hard truth years ago. You know, and it's not too difficult. Just sit down. I'm chilling too much. I'm in the club five days a week. Feel yourself. Is it good or bad? Okay, then you wait. I'm spending more. I'm coming back home, need to get my hair done, just to go out and come back. I'm. I'm so wasted. I cannot be productive the next day to yourself. I just love it. It's as simple as that. You don't need to be old. Just allow life to kill where you're supposed to go and make the job easier for life by just analyzing.
Speaker 2:Let me stop it here for a minute. If you've been watching this show, I want you to subscribe and become part of the family. We are on a journey of changing the lives of people on this channel and we appreciate you for being here. But if you haven't become part of the family, connect with us. Hit the subscribe button Now. Let's carry on the conversation. But do you think you yourself? You intervened in that process a few times.
Speaker 1:Yes, I did. I did by listening to that inner voice. You know, when you're doing something bad, you hear somebody say don't do it, don't do it. Inner voice, yes, you listen to it. It tells you, it guides you In your guts, you can feel it. What I'm doing is right. What I'm doing is right, we all do what I'm doing is right. What I'm doing is that we all do. We are just very disobedient beings. I tell you, we all hear that small voice guiding us.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're talking about. What I really want to know is when you discovered that you have a voice inside.
Speaker 1:I knew I had a voice, but I didn't pay attention to it.
Speaker 2:So when did you start paying attention to?
Speaker 1:it. Can I put a time to that? It's been a while. It's been a while and I can tell you. You can see the change. I definitely can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm being guided, I'm allowing myself to be led.
Speaker 2:The other change that I'm not exactly sure is that you want to go into politics that one that I'm not exactly sure, but anyway it could be a path.
Speaker 1:You never know, it could be. But then I don't think I can anymore. I don't know about chiefieftaincy and politics, and politics still might limit me. It might limit the help I can offer to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't be mother of all, and then I'm in one party, I'm mother of just a party. I want to be, you know for everybody.
Speaker 2:You want as many people as you can.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes yes, such as many lives without it being partisan. Yeah, if the parties want to help, I will take the help. Uh huh, definitely, definitely, you know.
Speaker 2:But I cannot belong and say, you know, leaving some people out, yeah it is not gonna be possible for me to conclude on this conversation without understanding the long path you took and why you decided to also go into music. Music.
Speaker 1:Music was definitely not my plan. It wasn't a challenge I thought I knew I had. Let me put it that way. Like I said, I was in a circle, so automatically you know I have a love for music, but as a musician I don't think that was ever part of my plan. You know, that just happened and we can say it happened at the right time because, most of those songs are still.
Speaker 1:It still boils back down to living life. Thank you Understanding. And when it's not, like life is just ticking and you are ticking, everything you should also know.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, go on. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1:You should also know, you should also know when the time is up. Yeah, yeah, it's it, you should also know. Huh, you should also know when the time is up. Yeah, yeah, it's time to flip a new chapter. If you're going to stay on that page, you will keep writing until there are no lines to write. Flip when it's time to flip.
Speaker 2:But I think a year ago you released a music video though Two years, two years ago.
Speaker 1:Yes yes yes, yes, yes. So I got the opportunity to shoot that in collaboration with Femme Fatale Studios. I was working for the other company and they like shoot a video Is music, something you still want to pursue.
Speaker 2:I actually released the whole EP last year Wow queen, mother, yeah, yeah, so you're not, it's something that is carrying on.
Speaker 1:For fun. But now I don't think money we are looking for is not amazing. I'm trying to build wealth. I'm not trying, I'm building the wealth, right, right. So we have to look at for how long can we do this and for how long can we do that.
Speaker 2:Wow. Okay, and for how long can we do that, wow? Okay, I want to ask is there anything we can still discuss that we haven't?
Speaker 1:what do you think?
Speaker 2:this is usually a question for my guests, so is there anything?
Speaker 3:What do you think? This is usually a question for my guests.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. So you say anything.
Speaker 1:Hmm.
Speaker 2:We can still talk about what do you want to talk about.
Speaker 1:The future is right. That's all I can say. Maybe we should talk about you, derek, because you've been interviewing everybody. Yes, yes, yes. We want to know we of you is yes, you want to know we are viewers yes. You need to give us some more info. That's true?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's true, so I'm planning on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need to switch seats. Yeah, that's true. And then you be the guest. That's true.
Speaker 2:That would be nice, it will happen at some point. It will happen at some point. Um, yeah, it happened at some point. I, I, I planned it for this year, beginning of this year, with someone, but it didn't happen because he had to travel a lot oh yeah, so it didn't happen so hopefully it will happen, god willing next year, yeah we'll be looking for it yeah yeah, I'm looking for it when did you realize that money was so important in life?
Speaker 1:It's always important. I've always known that.
Speaker 2:Because I feel like now you're making more money moves than you've ever done. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're trying to build it for the generation to come. Before, making money was suspended. Now it's not just for the spending. You know it's hands to mouth get money, chop, get money out parties or blow it. No, now I want to see what I'm using my money for. I have an expenditure book. Even if I buy water, I write it. Wow, because you see, I hear people, hear people say oh, I don't know, money comes in my hands and it's gone. They'll be walking from church to church. No, you've spent it.
Speaker 1:write it down so you can remember write it down so you can remember you've spent it write it down so you can remember. Money has always been important. It's just that now we're using the money for important things Wow.
Speaker 2:That's a line. Hey, you guys that are cutting this thing, you better cut it properly. Motivation or discipline, oh, that's a tough one.
Speaker 1:Motivation without discipline cannot work. Discipline Okay, discipline. Motivation can come after that. Okay, without discipline discipline okay, discipline, motivation can come after that. Yeah, discipline, you need to be disciplined. I keep saying I'm building wealth, I'm I starve myself of a lot of things. I discipline. You know I want to do this, but I can save up for this and make a bigger purchase that will give me more. So sacrifice is discipline. In a way, you know to do something for the long term. So discipline before, not over before, motivation.
Speaker 2:You know, randomly, I got this question in my head. If you were a 16-year-old young girl, would you be looking up to you?
Speaker 1:Me Looking up to my new self. Yes, Okay, yeah. Probably looking up to the old one. The old me was fun too. You know, the old me was fun too. You know, the old me was fun. We did try to do good things in the midst of my chaos. I would look up to him. Yeah, let me give myself a pat on the back because at every point in my life I have such lives. It's just me as a person, you know, amazing, I have such lives.
Speaker 2:It's just me as a person, you know. Amazing. Now, this question is the most important question on the podcast, the best advice you've ever received. I've interviewed over 170 people. Every time I ask that question, I get that look.
Speaker 1:They go silent. Yes, because a lot of us are juggling life on our own, so it's not really getting advice from anyone. It's just you thinking on your feet.
Speaker 2:I for one so you don't have anybody in your life that you can pick up the phone and then call and say this is not working. How can you speak to me so that I feel cool again?
Speaker 1:no, it's the other way around. When we spoke on the phone, I told you I should start charging for consultation yes because my, my friends of all ages find me comforting when they speak to me. So I have people calling me more for advice and I'm like I look at the family. Are you having trouble me? Why are? Why are you calling me? You know? So I don't think I don't really have anybody.
Speaker 2:So if you were to get yourself, into like you don't feel, like you're not motivated right now. Yeah, there's nobody. You can pick up the phone to call.
Speaker 1:No, no. Who would I call no? No, what would I call? No, I would say my mom, but she would pick the bow and arrow. No, she might. She might inflict more wounds.
Speaker 2:No, I was on the live a few days ago on TikTok and somebody asked me this question that sometimes it gets tough. How do I deal with it? And my answer to him was that you know the phone and the cover. The cover is the support system for the phone, so when the phone drops, at least it can cushion the damage. I have at least five people in my life and that has been. Sometimes it's tough and sometimes I have to book a ticket and go and see a mentor a mentor.
Speaker 2:You know like sometimes I have to do a zoom call with one of them. There were times a lot of trouble in the pharmacy. I had to go to see one of my bosses in village. You just sit with him, 75 year old man.
Speaker 1:And he just spoke life.
Speaker 2:Because sometimes it's hard. You know it is.
Speaker 1:But you men can have mentors with no problems.
Speaker 2:Why can't women? It's not that easy with women.
Speaker 1:Why you know why it's not that easy with women. Why you know why, especially in this Ghanaian setting, mentors always usually go left.
Speaker 2:What is left?
Speaker 1:Left is yeah, left is Left is Left. This is my left Off topic, If you get Off topic right.
Speaker 2:left is left off topic left off topic right.
Speaker 1:Pick 10 strong women or you know bustling entrepreneurs and ask them about their mentors. 10, you would find small, small issues. I see yeah, so with me I totally avoid it. No, no, no, no. The men in my life business.
Speaker 2:So you can't find like five ladies like five women that you can take advice from.
Speaker 1:In this country.
Speaker 2:Yes, in this country.
Speaker 1:That don't feel like we are competing against each other. Maybe I'm yet to find them. I'm yet to. I'm a loner like that. I try to figure everything out on my own. When I hit a brick wall, I say a prayer, I go to bed. I wake up refreshed. I have my little son too there, who is as entertaining as he can be. So I I don't really. My phone rings for work and nothing else.
Speaker 2:Wow when was the last time you read a book or listened to a book?
Speaker 1:um, about three weeks ago. I don't know if the title, you'll have to blur it out.
Speaker 2:But what would be your favorite like? Recommend a book for my audience. What would it? Be, Either an audio book or Audio book.
Speaker 1:Most books are audio books. Now Is it 48 Laws of Power 48 Laws of Power.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, robert Greene, yes, robert.
Speaker 1:Greene and any other book by Robert Greene. Yes, yes yes, I see the UT story. I've read that as well, yeah, which is quite nice. The subtle art of yep that was the last book I read yeah. I just needed to fine tune the art. Yeah, yeah, do just need that you fine tune the art.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so do you think books help, they do yeah they do, they do.
Speaker 1:We're lucky to be able to access audiobooks now so you can be driving and still, you know, listening to a book.
Speaker 2:So books do help. Amazing. Do you have anything for my audience?
Speaker 1:there's a camera right in front of you, right here it's been nice being on your show, it's been an honour, derek. Thanks for the opportunity. I'd like to tell everyone looking at me today who feels a little down, not motivated to pick up the pieces start, start somewhere. Start afraid, just start. And please, if you do get an idea, don't wait and force it. You never know. Do you agree, derek? A hundred percent, yeah.
Speaker 2:Usually, when this is happening, I zone out and just allow you to flow, but I love it. I'm still trying to get the secret as to how she's able to hear that voice, so when I find it, I'm going to put it in the description the exact method how she hears the voice and how it expands and become much, much louder. But thank you so much for your time, thank you.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I appreciate your time being here and, yeah, hopefully I see you do bigger things and I would love to come and see your farm, please.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd love to come and see it. Wear some boots before you come, love to come and see your farm.
Speaker 2:So thank you so much and thank you viewers, listeners. My name is Derek Abayte, stay connected and I'm out.