Konnected Minds Podcast

Segment: The Spirit and Mind: Understanding Your True Self

• Derrick Abaitey

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Have you ever wondered why some people seem to effortlessly attract opportunities while others constantly chase and struggle? The answer may lie in understanding the difference between your true spiritual identity and the false self you've been programmed to believe is you.

This enlightening conversation delves deep into the mechanics of spiritual identity, using the powerful metaphor of spirit as water held back by a dam of false self-perception. When we remain trapped behind this dam, disconnected from our true nature, we become "addicted to struggling" – much like a royal heir raised in the ghetto, unaware of their heritage and divine birthright. The mind functions as canals connecting back to our spiritual source, but programming from parents, schools, and religious institutions often creates distorted pathways that lead us further from authenticity.

Religious traditions themselves act merely as containers – different cups holding the same spiritual water. Yet humanity fights endless battles over the containers while missing the identical content within. A true spiritual practitioner understands that genuine identity transcends labels and includes all others, regardless of their religious affiliations. Your physical body itself is a "church," and internal spiritual connection matters infinitely more than external religious performances. The symptoms of disconnection manifest as lower-frequency emotions: anger, fear, jealousy, and anxiety. But as you evolve toward higher "spirit frequency," something remarkable happens – you develop spiritual magnetism. Instead of chasing experiences and opportunities, you naturally attract them through your authentic presence. Ready to stop struggling and start shining? This conversation offers a roadmap back to your true self, where abundance naturally flows toward you rather than constantly eluding your grasp.

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Speaker 1:

In fact, my beloved brother, I will make it much more clearer. See, we have spirit, and that is the water in bulk, and the dam is there. That is the beginning of false identity. So from there down, the drama is there. Everything is set, but the water is stuck there, that is spirit. The water is stuck there, that is spirit. Then within, from the source of water, down the canals, we call them mind. So once everything can work, there must be connection of the mind to the spirit. So we have evolution. That means you are moving towards spirit frequency.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And your identity is changing because down here, how you call yourself is different. When you are moving towards spirit frequency, how you call yourself is also different. It's not just your name. I'm talking of inwardly accepting who you are. Let me give you a small analogy. Somebody is a royal and he lives home, travels far away, and he's growing up and he's in a hostel somewhere. Meanwhile they are looking for him to become a chief or a king. That's right. And he's not aware and he's living in the ghettos and struggling and baffling. So when his identity, he has forgotten his identity as a royal, you see. So there, as long as he's not awakening to who he is, it is difficult for him to stop struggling. He becomes addicted to struggling. You see, Struggling becomes difficult for him to stop struggling. He becomes addicted to struggling. See, struggling becomes normal for him over then he hustles from birth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we are programmed.

Speaker 2:

so we take the kids you know, crawl, walk, language, our language, the language the mother father speak. That's what they teach the child their way of doing things. That's what they teach the child their way of doing things. That's what they program that child to do, sure, and then the kid go to school, go to church, mosque, wherever the things are happening there. The school system tells them that they can become a doctor, lawyer, you know all those things. This is a heavy programming. The only thing they see around them is to become a doctor. How do you tell this person that that is not the path they were supposed to take? But then everything else was already available for them.

Speaker 1:

The truth is this it's not a question of the path being wrong, but what it is is a self-identity is wrong. One can be positioned. Let me give you an example. You are born into a Christian home, fine, so you'll be given Christian upbringing. Yes, christian home, fine, so you'll be given Christian upbringing. But the identity you are picking as a Christian, a true Christian doesn't really. He has to have the values of the Christ, and the values of the Christ don't have false identity. So the build-up includes false identity and because of that, even though you have that title, christian, it's not a true Christian. A true Christian knows that who he is includes the others, even if they have names like Muslim, buddhist, this, that or traditionalist.

Speaker 2:

There's no separation.

Speaker 1:

The rejuve includes them, you see. So let me give you a small example. When you say Christian, somebody says a Muslim. Now, when you bring two Christians together one Christian, another Christian, the result is two Christians, isn't it? At the same time, if you bring one Muslim plus one Muslim, it will be two Muslims, yeah, but if you bring one Christian plus one Muslim, what is the answer? Two, what Human beings? Two human beings. It should have been one human being plus one human being. Then it's two human beings, but one Christian versus one Muslim. Impossible mathematics, you see.

Speaker 1:

What it is is that it is the false side we are projecting. The true Christian doesn't have the false side, the false identity. The false identity is so humble and understands that the one you are calling God is inside the other. So, in that wise, it is two human beings, you see. So I'm trying to get you to some point. So, in this way, if you have the true identity of yourself, you want to do something for yourself. Yourself includes the others, you see so, and there's no selfishness. Sometimes we cut, we cut the others out and we define I am this and he is that, and that is where crashing, and all these things you think that's that forms part of our major problems?

Speaker 1:

yes, major problem because it's the false side. How did the false side of the religion come about? You see, the truth has to have a container. It's like water, so the tradition takes the truth inside it, like you put water in a cup, but there is difference between the water and the cup, so the traditions around it doesn't make it separate, it makes it like it is separate from the other cup, but the content is what matters. And the content is the same, but the containers are different. And in this way, the false identity we hold to is the container mine is a golden container, yours is a metallic, it's just something else container. And we battle. And with that false identity you are not truly a Christian, you are not truly a Muslim, because the teacher was about the content.

Speaker 2:

But then, doc, how do we break away from all of this?

Speaker 1:

Yes, you see. So these are indoctrination and based on that a whole doctrine enters people's lives. We bring up the children and there is all these coverings around the religion, but the essence we don't hammer it, we don't, we just even talk it, but we don't hammer it, we don't, we just even talk it but we don't mean it, because the external is projected so much. Let's take this as some place sometimes understood by people the number of times you are going to church. It's like it's being marked by the angels and it's like it's actually making you somebody. But that is not the truth.

Speaker 1:

The truth is this your very body and mind, your spirit, is inside it. So this is a church of its own and if internally you are connected, the spirit is not entangled and is relieved, then you are saved. Otherwise, you carry this body and mind into a church room and you think the church room has the salvation, but it is right here. So you miss the point before going to the church room. You see, once you miss the point, what is the result? The lower frequencies of emotions like anger, fear, jealousy, sadness, whatever. They are all gripping you and that is the symptom that you haven't realized yourself, because the self is, beyond these things, the fact that a person is jealous en envious and that shows that they haven't achieved anxiety in the level of self-realization it means you are still stuck with the lower frequencies and that is the burden on every soul.

Speaker 1:

So some souls it is less on them and some it is stronger, and those that it is less on they are the ones empowered more than the ones who are burdened more with these things.

Speaker 2:

And the more these emotions keep you at the lower frequencies, the less you attract. Yes, why?

Speaker 1:

Because spirit is the supreme magnetism that is God. So once you are nearing your real self, which is spirit frequency, you are very magnetic. And that's magnetism. It doesn't make you chase things, it draws things to you. But when that is lowered, because we are mixed with the worldly situation to the point that who we are is covered up, then things become shiny, things become in our eyes, things are like wonderful and we are attracted to it.

Speaker 2:

Rather, it should be the opposite realize yourself, shine, the things are drawn to you look, I think you have to really break it down what the statement you just made. You have to really break it down, the statement you just made. You have to really break it down so that a 16-year-old that is even listening to me will be able to understand. Because shine and attract. Let me break it down.

Speaker 1:

Yes Say. First of all, we have spirit and it has stepped down of its energy, just as electricity we have stepped down frequency. So you step down the energy we call electricity, so step-down frequency goes on. And the next level of function we call it mind. So the difference between mind and spirit spirit is the source, like the generator, and the energy flow is step-down. So the first step down is called higher mind and then, when it steps down further, we call it lower mind. That lower mind, it is lower because it has to hold on to the lowest energies. The lowest energies are what we see.