Ep.75: The Most Haunted Prisons And Penitentiaries

The bars are quiet, but the walls won’t stop talking. We step into America’s most haunted prisons—Moundsville Penitentiary, the Ohio State Reformatory, and Alcatraz—to trace how executions, riots, and years of isolation may have charged these places with an energy that refuses to fade. From Old Sparky’s Black Friday to the Sugar Shack’s underground tension, we connect hard history with firsthand accounts and ask why certain halls keep replaying the same sounds, shapes, and chills.

Moundsville’s story hits hard: a fortress built in the 19th century, battered by overcrowding and violence, and framed by a Native American mound across the street. Reports of shadow figures, disembodied voices, and a Lady in White layer over documented hangings and electrocutions. Then we shift to the Ohio State Reformatory, where a six-tier steel cell block cages ambient dread and solitary confinement leaves visitors dizzy, touched, and stunned. Perfume by the warden’s staircase, whispers along the tiers, and slamming doors sketch a map of hotspots that line up with the building’s darkest chapters.

Alcatraz closes the circle. D Block’s cells—especially 13 and 14—spark pounding hearts, nausea, and that visceral sense of being inches from an unseen face. We revisit a chilling account of an inmate who screamed all night about a creature with glowing eyes before being found strangled at dawn, and we compare it to modern visitors who walk in fine and stagger out shaken. Surrounded by water and saturated with fear, the island seems built to trap stories in place.

Along the way, we share personal experiences from a historic jail-turned-courthouse—phantom singing, a shadow crossing an empty courtroom, a whistle matched to a long-gone warden—and dig into whether these are residual imprints or intelligent hauntings. Mindset matters, method matters, and respect matters when you enter rooms that doubled as endings.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Might have something to do with that.

SPEAKER_01 0:03

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Exploring the Unknown. I'm Dustin. I'm Luke. And today we're talking about haunted penitentiaries and prisons. Yeah, I get for this one. Yeah, I feel like you've been wanting to do this one for a while. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

I think penitentiaries and prisons. There's something fascinating about them.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Yeah. You were just at a penitentiary recently.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Yeah, last weekend we went to Mouseville penitentiary for that logging attraction. Which was pretty cool. I got locked in a cell jail for probably like five minutes.

Welcome And Tonight’s Haunted Theme

SPEAKER_01 0:44

With the is it like a notoriously haunted jail cell or was it just a jail cell?

Moundsville Penitentiary Firsthand Visit

SPEAKER_02 0:49

It was just a jail cell. They they we all had a group of eight, a group of eight people. And we got separated. And they locked me and my fiancee in one jail cell. And next to us, they locked three other people and like two or two or three other people. However, the math is.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

That's scary. So was it dark?

SPEAKER_02 1:16

It was pretty dark. Thing that people would like the that was a put like a like a security dog that would come up and take on the jail cell.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

Were they yelling at you and stuff? Yeah. It was pretty cool. Did they do they still do the bus ride in? Because I think they did last time I was there, they did a bus ride in or something. And then you had to you get off the bus and you stand along the wall and they yell at you, and then you go inside and do the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

No, we ain't do that, but they ain't have that. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Huh. So I mean, do you want to start there? I mean, I feel like that'd be a really good place to start since that's like nobody knows.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Marlinsville Penitentiary is in Mountsville, West Virginia. It operated in 1876 through 1995. So it's only been close for 30 years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

You know, which is crazy. I know somebody that worked there.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Do you? Were they be interested in coming on? Do they have any paranormal ideas?

SPEAKER_01 2:29

I I don't know if they believe in that kind of stuff. I don't know if they'd be interested in coming on. But yeah, I'm sure he has some stories though, because I think he was uh he was like a security guard there or something.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

You should probably try to talk to him.

History, Layout, And Notorious Inmates

SPEAKER_01 2:46

I'll I'll try to talk to him and see if I can't get him to tell me a little bit about it, but I don't imagine I'll get much.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

So it was assembled. The design was reassembled. I can't speak. But that design was to look like the smaller version of the state penitentiary in joint illinois. Ohlinois isn't even like around here. If that's a smaller version of Joint Illinois, uh penitentiary, that one must be huge. Because Mountainfield's huge itself.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Yeah, it is rather big. See, you I don't think that you've seen the full of it because they they only have the haunted attraction in like a portion of it. There's like down in the boiler room. You did they tell you they probably didn't you didn't hear any stories or anything, did you? No. Oh well, I won't I won't spoil it too much then. But yeah, well that well, you know what? Let's just kind of get into some of the activity. Do you did you do do any research on that? Did you see anything?

Executions, Riots, And Why It’s Haunted

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Yeah, I uh this bang of shadow figures uh dogging across the hallways, disembodied voices calling out names, uh whispering in your ears, and unexplained quotes box when it's warm outside, and light EVPs, footsteps, and growls, and uh growls, yeah. In cell block four, there's a uh shadow, they call it the shadow mare, is well known to appear and stalk visitors near cell block four.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

I did hear about that. I don't have any information on the boiling boiling room, actually. But there was there was a murder down in the boiler room. The guy it was like really gruesome, like if I'm remembering it correctly. This dude was like stabbed to death. There was but there was a lot of murders and and riots and stuff at the at the Moundsville penitentiary. They had like not over 90 executions. Did you see that? Yeah, and then another hotspot is called the Sugarshack.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

It's in the basement.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Maybe that's what I'm remembering of then.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Like you said, countless assaults and murders happened here. And one today is one of the most active paranormal hotspots in the jail. I think it's like a cafeteria, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Okay, well then this isn't where the where I'm thinking of it, must be the boiler room because it wasn't a cafeteria. Like this place was dark, damp, and you know, kind of like a basement.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Yeah, I think this the trigger shop's more like a cafeteria, if I'm not mistaken. Like I said, I've never investigated the place. I would like to. But I'm pretty sure it's um, it says a basement. Yeah, basement recreation area. So it looks like where they would come maybe play games, do whatever they do in a recreation area of a jail. I'm not sure what they do, but yeah.

The Lady In White And Other Claims

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Yeah. Here's something interesting. So some here are some notable inmates that were at Moundsville Penitentiary. Charles Manson's family members, Harry Powers, who killed two widows and three children in his murder castle. It's in quotes. A member of Bonnie and Clyde's gang, Carl Panzram, who murdered 22 people, Danny Heater, who holds a high school basketball scoring record by scoring 135 points in one game. I don't know who. Oh, maybe that was part of the gang. And then Otho Brown, who murdered his cellmate while serving time for murder.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

So could you imagine how many people die in the electric chair?

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Well, yeah, we'll get this. It says that the prison also witnessed some horrif horrific events that have become part of popular culture. Like, and it in quotes, it says Black Friday, which occurred on January 17th, 1936, when seven inmates were executed via X electrocution in one day, something that had not been done before. Seven inmates in one day, all just electrocuted one after another.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

And the chair's nickname is Old Sparky.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I think I got to sit in Old Sparky. I I vaguely remember sitting it in the electric chair down there.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

And they hung people too. They like it wasn't a like place where, like, oh, you're just gonna go to spend the rest of your life. They actually executed people.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

I was looking for uh there was more on the the shadow man, but here's something interesting. The theory as to why the penitentiary is so haunted. Do you know what do you know, did you see about that?

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SPEAKER_02 8:58

Well, I'm looking at something here. I'm not sure if it has a part anything to do with it, but if it's not, just tell me. In 1986, there was a riot, one of the bloodiest prison uh riot riots in the US history. In makes took control of a part of the prison for two days. Several prisoners were killed, and numerous hostages were taken.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

No, I didn't know about that. I that's not what that's that that's not what this is. How many were taken hostage and killed?

SPEAKER_02 10:18

It doesn't say exactly, but it says there's m numerous hostages never taken. Yeah, you know, I mean, I think that could be a big part of why it's so hard. I think it's one of the like Gatesburg, one of the bloodiest battles in the in Pennsylvania, so why can't this the bloodiest prison right? Oh but what was your uh take on it?

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Well, what I had found was because of the mounds. Uh the mounds across the street. Yeah. Yeah, I've had that too. It's on Native American burial grounds.

Paranormal Hotspots And Reports

SPEAKER_02 11:01

But I yeah, I can see that being a big factor on it being haunted. But like maybe there's something there that has to do with that, but most of the activity is like prisoners, warrants, and stuff like that. So maybe if the energy from the mound is like making it the prison more active, yeah. Uh that's a good theory. They say the mouse on it too.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Yeah, I would like to go down there and check out the the mounds and the penitentiary. We'd like to do it in the same night and make it part of the same video. But some of the other things that I was seeing there too was something that I've seen in a lot of different places. They call it the lady in white. Do you think that that's just like a weird phenomenon because it it seems to be everywhere? There's a like every haunted place has a lady in white.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Well, the law behind the lady in white is I'm pretty sure it's looking for somebody or it's looking for something. Now, in a fizzing, what could it be looking for? Maybe it's a different version of a baby in white.

Personal Experiences At A Historic Jail

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Well, according to this story, the lady in white is believed to be the ghost of a woman who was brought to Moundsville after being accused of murdering her own child. She was reportedly sentenced to life imprisonment, but died under mysterious circumstances soon after arriving at the penitentiary. Many people claim that they have seen the lady in white walking down hallways or standing silently near prison windows. So I don't know, maybe she's looking for her baby that she murdered.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Yeah, maybe she was guiltily uh charged guilty, and she wasn't guilty, and she's looking for a way to say, hey, I'm not guilty. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

I don't know. Died under mysterious circumstances. That's weird. That is weird. That is weird. Well, that's Moundsville Penitentiary, man. I would have to get up to that place. As would I. As would I. Well, I mean, we can definitely put it together, but we're we'd need some help, you know, if our lovely lovely fans and listeners would like to help us. We do have a donation page on our website, exploring the unknownpod.com. Or, you know, purchase purchase some merch. That'll that'll help us get us there too.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

So what place would you like to investigate back into next?

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Oh let's see. Uh what about what about this one here? This is another one that you've been to. The Ohio State Reformatory. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. You can start off with this one.

unknown 14:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

So the Ohio State Reformatory, it opened back in 1896 as a reformatory for young offenders. It devolved into overcrowding, abuse, and inmate violence, which that you know, I feel like that's probably gonna happen if you have too many people, but I think it's gonna happen either way. I mean, they're in prison for a reason. But the prison shut down in 1990, and here's some horror trivia. This is the prison from what movie?

SPEAKER_02 15:01

I know it. Are you asking me? I am asking you the Shaw Shank Redemption.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

It is Shaw Shank Redemption, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

I've never seen that movie actually.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Then how did you know?

SPEAKER_02 15:14

I've heard it multiple times, and I've seen it fairly long over hours going up through my nose. So I knew that one that came out in 1994.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Only four years after the penitentiary closed.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

There you go. More you know, but now it is preserved and does full paranormal overnight investigations. You can go there and get spooked by you know prisoners of the past. Yeah, what did you feel there? Did you didn't do an investigation there? You were just there.

SPEAKER_02 15:58

No, I was there, and there's a whole bunch of people there. It's more like it's like a paracon, so there's so much people there, and we were only on like one spot, and it's kind of hard to get a feeling on something when there's so many people at this place.

Ghost Stories From The Courthouse

SPEAKER_01 16:17

Yeah, I get that. I get that. People post on Reddit about these places and the experiences that they have. I mean, hold on. This one seems like it might be. Yeah, maybe not. No, it isn't. Nope. They're just talking about wanting to go. But I don't really have anything else for the Ohio State Reformatory.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Well, here's some paranormal hot spots of the Ohio State Reformatory. There's the whole ex solitary confinement. Ziggers and investigators ever experienced overwhelming dread and dizziness, and sometimes physically touched. Speaking of physically touched, I forgot to mention this earlier. Whenever I was in the haunted house, mouse felt, I felt like something touched my head.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Oh, I think you mentioned that to me that night, yeah.

Belief, Mindset, And Experiencing Activity

SPEAKER_02 17:44

That night, yeah. People reported growls, whispers, and unseen hands grabbing their cliffs. That would be weird. That would be weird. The east cell block is the largest freestanding steel cell block in the world, nearly six tiers high. That is crazy. Six tiers. Yeah. Could you imagine being a sixth tier and looking down and be like, damn, I'm high as hell? And many visitors report seeing shadow figures between the cells and hearing cell doors slam on their own. And the warden's corner. The warden's wife appears near the staircase in front of the bedroom. And I think every perfume sometimes fills the air where she's or seen in the chapel. It's a hot spot for EVPs and cold spots.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

That's interesting. I would like to do like an investigation at a couple of these penitentiaries. And then maybe like live stream it or do like a video.

Alcatraz On The Bucket List

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, that'd be cool. Now, let's talk about one I we dig a mansion earlier, but I think it has a very good story, and I've worked there.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

What penitentiary did you work at?

SPEAKER_02 19:45

It wasn't a penitentiary, it was a jail.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Oh. Wait, I thought it was a courthouse.

D Block Energy And Reported Phenomena

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Well, the family courthouse across the street from it. Are you familiar with that one? No. Well, the family courthouse originally was the Allegan County jail. Okay. You know that bridge that goes between them? Yeah. That bridge is called Size Bridge. That's where they would transport the prisoners to the jail for the court. Okay. For court. But this is a cool. Just the jail house cell, like the jail in the courthouse is massive and very old looking. You're seeing a people, haven't you? Yeah, I think so. And this is downtown Pittsburgh. I think I was a castilian there working evenings, like I do at the school now if I was at these locations. Like I said, the old prison opened in 19 1886. And now it's a part of the courthouse and the family court. And over decades housed thousands of inmates and petty criminals to murders, numerous suicides, and lives and deaths. The jail's conditions were harsh, overcrowded, diseased, and abused, calming in the 20th century. It was used till 1995, where inmates moved from the modern facility to the historical building that was converted into Allegheny County's family court. Now there's a story. Let's see if I can find it. I can't find it. The warden's wife, you might have heard the story before.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Is that it?

A Chilling Visitor Story From Cell 14

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Yes. That is I it's hard to tell see what part. That is a courthouse. Okay. That is a part of the courthouse. But yeah. Jeez. Mrs. Sofle was the warding's wife at the time. And she fell in love with two inmates with the love triangle. Oh my. And she helped them escape so they can be together. And they actually pulled off the escape and was caught. And I believe she was executed. Wow. So she yeah, back in the times, you would think that would probably be the case.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

And she helped two and murderers escape. Yeah. So she fell in love with these prisoners that helped them, she helped them escape. Then I believe she would, like I said, was executed. And she is claimed to roam their courthouse. They claim the elevators go up and down the floors. I think believe there's four floors. And the elevators would go up and down and they would open and nobody would come up.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Are these elevators that you regularly use? Yeah. I used them regular. Is that is that the case? Is it did they do that? No. They didn't do that.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

And I believe there was a story I heard from somebody. They were sitting in the garden shack in the looking at the cameras, and the elevator opened, and they seen a white figure walk out of the elevator. And nobody was there.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

That's wild.

Dark Tales, Deaths, And Residual Energy

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Now I've had some experiences there. I heard I was walking into the courtroom cleaning one of the courtrooms, and I heard a woman singing. And I was like, that's weird. Like, there's nobody here besides the other cleaners. So I was like walk around, nobody, nobody was there. And another time, we were on lunch and we would sit when it was cold outside, we were sitting at like one of the guard stations that used to in the day. And you can see like almost all the building. And I seen a shadow walk into like a courtroom. And me and this other person saw it, so I wasn't the only one who's seen it. So maybe and the whole time we're on lunch, we're like looking at this room. And I was cleaning that floor at the time. So I went up there after lunch and went in there, and there's no buggy in there.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

That's that's crazy. That's crazy. So what why didn't you stay there? Why'd you leave there?

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Because it was like a 45-minute drive every day.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Oh, that would be that would have been a tough one for me to leave. Like, especially if like you knew you were getting things there, and you probably worked overnight too. Tugatang. Okay, so you were there for a portion of the night. Still, wonder if wonder if we could get in there to do a small investigation, do you think? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

Probably not because it's a courthouse and they have documents and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Oh yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Listener Stories, Socials, And Halloween Tease

Would You Rather: Solitary In The Dark

SPEAKER_02 26:40

No, they actually have a a portion of the courthouse that was the original jail. It's like a little museum. There's like jail cells and like pictures. And one night we were walking through there because we really wasn't doing anything. And uh backstory, my neighbor used to be a warden at the jail like when he was alive. And we heard we were walking through the museum, and I was telling the people I work with, hey, my warden used to uh my neighbor used to work here as a warden. His name was Mr. Robinson. And we're talking, and I I think I seen a picture of him in the museum. And all the song, he used to whistle every day. Like when he was at home, like on the grass, whatever, he used to, he was a whistler. And I was seen this picture and I was like, I think this is him. And I heard that whistle. He used to whistle a like Pacific rhythm every time he whistled, and I we heard it. And I was like, is anyone else here? And they're like, no, we're like the only ones here. And we heard a whistle. That same whistle that he used to whistle.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

That's weird. That's weird. You've experienced a lot as far as the paranormal.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Oh, your mic got like low, like I can hear you for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Oh, I know why, because is that better? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I I bumped it and then it disconnected. But well, I know what I said was you I you've experienced a lot. Like you have you do have a lot of stories and things that you've encountered? I would I want what yeah, I want to be I want to have those kinds of experiences because I feel let okay, let me ask you this. You've had experiences that you can't explain. Yeah. Has that in any way, shape, or form given you more confidence that there is something after death or like more to believe in it has? Yeah, we need to just do an episode on it.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

You wanna be me?

SPEAKER_01 29:17

We should, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Well, uh paranormal stories.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

I don't know, man. Like we go, we and I well here's another thing, too. I thought about this actually, I talked to this about uh this with Renee, and we go to these places and I don't sometimes I don't really feel anything, but I think it has to do with the mindset that you're in whenever you're there or whenever you're heading there or whatever. If you can stick it's uh it's like there's this small window of mindset that I need to be within in order to experience something. If I'm just slightly above or below, then it's not there, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Yeah, we just can go off so much topic. We just got off topic.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

I know, but it's it's uh whatever.

Final Challenge And Sign Off

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Yeah, no. It's fine, it keeps it natural.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Right. But not only that, I mean it was still kind of relevant, and you were you were telling us stuff about the courthouse and the jail and and whatnot, which yeah, that's all that's interesting. I want to have experiences like that. Like we talk about them. I'm jealous, is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

I got a whole bunch of them. Like we

SPEAKER_01 30:39

make a whole web as they got geez we let's let's do that but let's let's let's get into this and start wrapping this up well maybe we don't have to wrap it up but m you know progress it a little bit alcatraz yes that's another place on our bucket list oh it's on your bucket list i love to go to alcatraz i actually that you say that now i want to like actually create a list of places that i want to go and like strive towards that uh why is it on your bucket list i think it's just because like the war other place and like the history behind it and like you're on island like you're in a prison on island there's just something about alchitraz like always caught my attention yeah i I don't know what it is it's just awesome looking place big place I don't know it's just something about Alcatraz like makes me like I wanna do that I wanna do that place. Do you think that because it is secluded and surrounded by water then it makes it even more active yeah it's very possible there's the water thing they conduct that like energy so I don't know they're just something about Alcatraz like I want to do it yeah not a lot of people get to go investigate Alcatraz I'd like to be one of the few people that do right and if you're going to Alcatraz you know as a as a prisoner you've probably done some really bad things too it was like um it was max security yeah they have some pretty infamous inmates there Alcatan was there machine gun kelly obviously um not the rapper machine gun kelly that's sitting there I was like wait what you know let's make that very clear it's not the rapper machine gun kelly I don't think machine gun kelly would last in Alcatraz I'm just saying neither do I Robert the Bergmanx job was there and Elvin Krimpus I don't know who then who most of them people are Al Capone I think that there's this there's some kind of like local thing that happened here with Al Capone or that whole family thing I'll have to look more into it but I think we talked about it at one point remember that guy I was telling you about that got like dumped out in the woods yeah yeah I think that it it was mob related I know that I know that Al Capone is supposedly one of the ghosts who hauncat is he the one in D block cell 14 that's a good question I don't know about that what makes you think that he's one of the ghosts that haunt Alcatraz they were saying he's being seen there as a ghost some of the actively people seeing him there as a spirit that's interesting you can hear guys report hearing cell work those days change me chains moving moaning footsteps and stuff like that yeah I did see a lot of things about pacing footsteps and and and in an empty block that just has that get out you shouldn't be here kind of energy D block cell 14 is a really active spot people step inside and immediately get hit with panic pressure and that feeling that someone unseen is inches from your face and I actually have a story before you start that story feeling like there's someone inches from your face doc I'd be terrifying that's like well see that's kind of that's kind of what I experienced sometimes whenever like I I I experienced it at the one down here the local one right yeah and I experienced it at the Green County Historical Museum and it's like this it they wouldn't come up to me face to face it whatever this energy was it was it was over top of me this way like like like trying to push me out like that you need to get going you need to go you know what I'm trying to say yeah but this part the way you say this makes me think you're like face to face with whatever this thing is right right now being there like right there in your face like back up on how sway well I wonder if it's because it's so dark have you ever noticed that like when like the darker it gets the more it feels like you're being closed in yeah but this story is actually from cell block D block 14 whatever how you you know the numbers but it says uh yeah block D cell 14 there we go D block says this took place in April 2016 when my boyfriend now husband and I visited San Francisco the first night we stayed at the Kensington Park Hotel which I was excited about since I loved old places with character but as soon as we walked in I felt really uncomfortable and creepy there was no reason for it so I thought it would be fine when we got to our room the elevator was so old it had a a real bell when you got to every floor and it made me shiver. When we got to our room I felt the constant feeling of being watched especially when I took a shower I asked my husband for us to change hotels to a generic chain after that and felt much better. It it may have been all in my head but I still don't know why I felt that way. A couple of days later we did the daytime audio tour at Alcatraz. I went into all the open cells in D block where the worst chemic criminals were housed in broad daylight everyone sits or every one of the cells was dark. I felt nothing strange in 11 and 12 but 13 and 14 were totally different. I was in cell 13 by myself and the moment I walked in my heart started pounding so fast it felt like it was going to beat out of my chest. So naturally I made a beeline right out of there. We went onward with the tour to look at the bell tower outside but then circled back after I felt calm again so I could go into cell 14. Both my husband and I went in together this time and we both without saying anything to each other until afterward felt like we were on a boat in the middle of the ocean it was like the floor was wavy I also felt a dizzying and uneasy feeling at that point to the point I felt like I was going to pass out. We were probably only in there for one minute I had to sit on the bench outside the block for 15 minutes to make sure I was going to be okay. My husband a total skeptic said he couldn't explain it. The rest of the vacation I felt a bit dizzy and unlike myself flash forward to being back home and I couldn't shake that feeling that something was attached to me. I somehow contracted bronchitis was having trouble sleeping and had a couple bad dreams of a shadow floating it took several weeks afterwards to shed the that feeling of attachment but I finally did after a lot of protective prayers there's something dark in those cells what do you think of that that's that's crazy. I mean that kind of goes along with everything that was being said that people are experiencing in that now now I actually say that I'll bring this up so one of the inmates screamed all night claiming a creature with glowing eyes was in his cell by mourn by moaning and they found that he he was found dead the next day I think it was strangle morning huh did you say by mourning or by moaning by morning I'm sorry he was found the next morning his body was found dead strangle with no explanation and he was by himself yes besides this creature with glowing eyes in his cell with him so could it be the same cell that they were in who knows this was in cell block D was it really that's interesting yep that's extremely interesting why do you think why do you think that that cell may be like that I don't know I don't know I don't know that is strange you know what I think like as I was reading this and the lady was saying oh I was in 13 and it felt weird and then we went to 14 and it was worse I thought if somebody is spending their like a majority of their life in that area right and if they're alone I mean even if they weren't alone there's they're spending it there feeling these emotions and thinking these things and I'm sure it becomes intense so that energy maybe it's just a residual residual would mean that it's like it's just there. Yeah I think I don't know but that's interesting. I wonder if that's not why a lot of these prisons are haunted and have activity because they have the emotional aspect to it as well as like the the violence which is I guess still kind of emotional in a way yeah do you have any more for Alcatraz? I do not know nice okay well I have another D block cell 14 story for Alcatraz? Mm-hmm oh actually no I'm sorry it's the same one I I thought I scrolled on yeah I think that's all I have for most of this or did we do was we gonna do those other two or do you I think I think we're almost at 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

I think we I think this is a very good episode and I think it are a cool topic thing stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

Yeah yeah cool guys if you have a story or an encounter we would love to hear it have you on the show you can email us at exploring the unknown pod at outlook.com or call you can leave us a voicemail at 412 533 3483 and we might play it on the show make sure you're following us on YouTube TikTok and Facebook just search Exploring the Unknown podcast and hit subscribe so you don't miss next week's episode Luke and I try to post every week as is and as often as we can life's hard it gets busy it is what it is yes and we'll be having an episode come out soon about the investigation we did on Halloween. Yeah that was interesting I would like to go back and listen to the estes method or the estes session that we did you said it was really really weird so all right I have a would you rather awesome let's do it all right let me get my creepy music all right would you rather spend one hour alone in Siberia the old Idaho penitentiary's pitch black solitary cell or spend one hour locked in a D block isolation cell at Alcatraz with the lights off crush me I guess if it's on your bucket list by yourself you're you can't take anybody I it's a little by yourself yeah either way I'm getting Alcatraz what if you get strangled like that dude I guess that's the way I was meant to get out I mean okay I'm getting out in alcatraz I mean the okay I mean that's I guess that's fair but let me ask you this let me ask you this all right you are in Dell uh uh D block right there's many there's different cells which one are you choosing um see folks he didn't he didn't say 14 out the gate so we know there's some hesitation um I thought about 13 or 14 um I feel like the whole block is probably the most haunted block in the thing so I mean either what one you're going to I feel like you have some type of actor would you stay and sell block 14 sure why not I'll stay block I'll stay in 12 that's two away from 14 that way I get some of it but not all of it no you stay in 13 I'll stay in 14 all right well I'll stay in 13 you stay in 14 um listen here's one i got i got something for the for the listeners because I want to see some engagement I want to see some people some dropping some comments$10,000 on the table you get one camera one flashlight you have this you have to spend the night alone in Moundsville penitentiary's execution area are you taking the money or not I'll take it you'll take it fuck yeah you gotta spend the whole night by yourself okay okay let's change it up no flashlight you get one candle and it's lit if it goes out that's it I mean at that point you're gonna be like if you have no light whatsoever and you're gonna cell block I'd be worried about like maybe falling over the railing I like to be able to see at least where I'm going.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

As long as I can have light to see where I'm going and shut the light off whenever I get to the spot then yes.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

But I think if the handle goes out you have to stay where you're at I think that's most likely what I would do because I wouldn't want to risk like moving or anything because I don't want to fall and get hurt no I understand I understand all right I think that's all I have me too thank you guys for listening to another episode of Exploring the Unknown we'll see you next time you are you kidding me at the last four episodes you didn't do it and you're gonna do it this time that's crazy. Keep exploring the unknown see you guys