If you’re a man, have men in your life, are raising a young man, or just love Natacha Pennycooke (because she’s the best!), you’ll want to hit play on this episode of Marketing Sucks! In this mental-health-focused episode, I sit down with Natacha, her fellow psychotherapist and registered social worker Kunle Ifabiyi, and brand storytelling expert Phil Ginther to talk about the biggest mental health challenges men tend to face — and why they’re often so resistant to talking about them.
During this roundtable convo, we get into the root cause of why men can struggle so much with expressing emotion, why they’re statistically less likely to seek mental health support, how to deal with misplaced anger, and why hosting regular “Dad Chats” can be immensely healing. This episode is super important, so let’s get started!
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Guest bios: Natacha Pennycooke is a leader in workplace mental health, equity education, and psychological safety, a Mindset Coach, and an award-winning psychotherapist. Registered social worker and psychotherapist Kunle Ifabiyi specializes in self-esteem, life transitions, and men's issues as part of the team at Natacha Pennycooke Psychotherapy. Phil Ginther is a Senior Creative Director at Spin Master and a copywriter with over 14 years experience.
Timestamps:
00:12 Intro
01:34 Root cause of emotional difficulties
05:47 How to help kids emote
10:08 Decoding & releasing anger
13:46 Fear of judgment & vulnerability
14:52 Dad chats & challenges
23:13 Coping with isolation & overwhelm
25:46 Building capacity
26:32 Equal partnership
30:22 Communication
34:05 Helping men open up
38:40 Find community
42:00 Outro
Links mentioned:
Natacha Pennycooke Psychotherapy
linkedin.com/in/natachappennycooke
linkedin.com/company/natacha-pennycooke-psychotherapy
Instagram: @natachapennycooke.therapy
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