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Boundaries, Burnout, and the Leadership No One Talks About with Natacha Pennycooke

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In this episode of Marketing Sucks, Amanda sits down with three-time award-winning psychotherapist Natacha Pennycooke for a real, unfiltered conversation about boundaries.

They dive into what is actually happening psychologically when we say yes but mean no, why high-achieving women overfill their plates, and how guilt quietly drives burnout in both motherhood and entrepreneurship

From attachment styles and leadership patterns to money conversations and undercharging, this episode connects the dots between people-pleasing, resentment, team culture, and profit.

If you have ever struggled to say no, charged less than you should, or wondered why your team feels tense or disengaged, this conversation will challenge you to look inward first.

Because boundaries are not just personal.
They shape your business.

What You’ll Learn

✔ What is happening psychologically when you say yes but mean no

✔ The difference between being nice and being kind

✔ How people-pleasing develops as a survival tool

✔ Why high-achieving women overfill their plates and burn out

✔ How attachment styles show up in leadership

✔ Why micromanagement signals a lack of trust

✔ How weak boundaries affect team culture and retention

✔ Why female founders struggle with charging their worth


Guest bio: Natacha Pennycooke is a leader in workplace mental health, equity education, and psychological safety, a Mindset Coach, and an award-winning psychotherapist. With over 13 years of experience, she is CEO of Natacha Pennycooke Psychotherapy, a flourishing anti-oppressive, healing-focused, and trauma-informed private group practice.


Links mentioned:‌ ‌

Natacha Pennycooke

natachapennycooke.com 

Instagram: @natachapennycooke.therapy, @natachapennycooke.ceo

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