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This is arrested with Mike Brooks and Atlanta criminal defense attorney. Damn Conway. Thank you for joining us on arrested and by the way, before we get to the Georgia man who was locked up this week by the FBI's joint terrorism task force here in Atlanta for a plotting to attack the White House. Let me remind you, if you haven't picked up Dan[inaudible] book, arrested battling America's criminal justice system, you are doing yourself an injustice. It's available at Barnes Noble. You can get on Amazon and you could also go to the arrested website. What's that? What's that address again? Dan Arrested Book Dotcom. Arrested Book Dot Com. Fantastic. I'm telling you, go go, go pick yourself up a coffee bag, man. Years. So you're crazy. So this week on, um, on, on Wednesday, federal authorities arrested a metro Atlanta man that they said was plotting to attack the White House, but in instead he got tangled up with the FBI's joint terrorism task force harsher. July ty, he's 21 years old of coming, was taken into custody in, in Buford while allegedly trying to exchange his vehicle for explosives. And he later appeared in court in downtown Atlanta, and the case was brought in front of the judge by the FBI's joint terrorism task force. And, and, and dad, you know, uh, some people say, Whoa, well, this isn't trapman well, we're gonna we're going to tell you folks a little bit about the timeline dealing with this guy. But I'm telling you, Dan, this guy is basically a self radicalized, possible, alleged terrorists.

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Yes. Uh, alleged. Yes. But, uh, well investigated case by the northern district of Georgia, which includes Atlanta, the Atlanta Metro region. Uh, this was, this investigation was handled and supervised by our local us attorney here, Mr. Pak. Yep. And, uh, who, uh, until it became us attorney was in the same building. Uh, we're in the four seasons office tower in midtown and Mr Peck was in the same boat as that, right? Uh, and I know some of the people on the task force, I'm familiar with, uh, uh, the old, pretty mental, all of the US attorney's assistant United States, attorneys in the northern district, uh, that, that we're working in conjunction with the FBI. Uh, so this is just a really good job. And as the defense lawyer, I don't say this easily, right, right. But I have to give credit where credit is due. A, so a shout out to, I can't actually believe I'm saying this.

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I met a couple your, the United States

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cities now they're gonna fall over in their chair when they, when I say this, but uh, shout out to the United States attorney's Office for the northern district of Georgia to United States trained Mr Pack and all of his agents and his assistant, United States attorneys, many of whom I know and have worked with on other cases because they did a good job here. And this is really classic. I would argue a classic good police work. Yeah, there's no entrapment here. Uh, this was thoroughly investigated. Meaning, and they've put up, they, they put up a, uh, an individual, uh, to I guess the last name is pronounced[inaudible] or tied to Ebf type of is in cumming, Georgia. And um, he wanted to basically blow up everything according to this one at the White House, the Statue of Liberty. There is a synagogue, he wanted to blow up the Washington Monument, Washington Monument, I think the Lincoln memorial he wanted. Yep. So basically he just wanted to blow everything up. Um, and uh, he was trying to travel abroad. He was trying to procure the arms and the guns necessary to do this kind of thing. Uh, and even collaborating with apparently, um, with the leaders of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and, and, uh, you know, watching videos on line and what sort of self radicalized really. Yep,

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exactly. And that's why, that's why the uh, special agent in charge, a hacker of the FBI office here feels that if he was acting alone, but you know, but the investigation investigations like this, you know, and having been spent six years on the FBI's joint terrorism task force in Washington as an investigator and work in bombings and such, I can tell you investigations like this, they can become complex. But this is also a classic case and we, and we always talk about this, is if you see something, say something because apparently this actually came from a tip about his radicalization because he actually went to high school here in Metro Atlanta and um, and he was self radicalized as we as we said, but apparently someone in his community, uh, didn't, he just felt not great about this guy because of his radicalization and uh, and called, called the tip in to the FBI and you know, and, and what happens is they will start off with a call, a Pi, a preliminary inquiry, you know, a preliminary investigation and they'll do a kind of the, uh, the least obtrusive kind of investigation into this guy. Um, and to find out what exactly are his goals, what does he really want to do and, and come to find out because they introduced a, uh, an FBI undercover and also they had an informant,

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right? They had a cio and enough, a confidential informant and an FBI

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undercover, correct? Both. Exactly. Yep. And, you know, in, in the complaint, the federal complaints, because this started back last year in 2018 a when he allegedly tried to put his vehicle up for sale, um, to fund a trip overseas and an FBI informant reached out to show interest and met with the suspect a number of days later. And then from there he allegedly planned to travel to, uh, to the Islamic state, um, and for whatever reason, and then, uh, you know, they said at the end of the day, at the end of December, he arranged a meeting with the informant and the, um, FBI undercover agent. And then apparently the, he explained that Jihad was an obligation that he wanted to do so much damage as you want to do as much damage as possible. And he expected to be a martyr. It was. And this was all spelled out. This is where you get the 21 versions and grapes being fed to you and all the other things that are 72 virgins. Seventy two 72 virgins. Yeah. But yeah, but that's. But that's what he was expecting. And a then a few days later, there was another meeting and Alpharetta, uh, in which in which a to him allegedly showed the FBI worker a composition notebook with a hand drawn map of the ground floor of the west wing in the White House. And then he seemed to believe that the informant and the FBI workload would join his plot if they could find weapons according to the complaint. And then by mid December he had allegedly broaden the scope of, of places he wanted to attack to include, as we said, the Washington monument, the Lincoln Memorial, uh, synagogue. Uh, and he said he wanted to use handguns. I eds improvised explosive devices and an 84 anti armor weapon. And Hampton is now nowadays. What is that? It's a basically a shoulder fired anti light armor, anti tank weapon. Oh Wow. Yeah. So it's probably, it maybe if you look at any and he, after the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, you see them used quite, quite often. And it's uh, but what, what the guy wanted to do. I think Arnold Schwarzenegger, he was one of those. And one of his, one of his movies, yeah, blows up a shopping mall, whether it or something. Yeah, it takes out the entire compound or. But, but what he wanted to do was apparently he said he wanted to drive on the road behind the White House and I'm thinking to myself, okay, no one that area really well, east street where used to be able to drive, you can't drive there anymore. So I had to be somewhere around the ellipse or constitution avenue and he wanted to use this, this 80 slash 41 to use this weapon to. He wanted to create diversion and then use this weapon to blast a hole into the White House, into the back part of the White House to get in and try to kill as many people as possible in the Oval Office on the back end of the White House. The Oval Office is on. They get to the south side of the White House over on the, on the west side. But, you know, outside the Rose Garden on the, if you, as you're facing, uh, the White House from Constitution Avenue, it's over to the left over here. Take everything out or even that shot. Oh. But you know, in DC as well as doing. I haven't been to the White House once they blow the whole, it doesn't have to like charge in there. Yeah, I hate it. I don't think he really. Was he going to charge and on that question, that's a good question. But, but yesterday, because the plot was supposed to take place on Thursday. That's right. It was coming right up that trite. And then they didn't, they didn't the uh, the undercover guys. Then the FBI say they brought all the center. Yeah. On Wednesday. So like a walmart parking lot or something. Right. I had went to a, uh, Buford store parking lot for the purpose of him and the FBI informant exchanging their vehicles. This is for semiautomatic rifles, explosive devices and that 84 can they bring like a moving van or something. And then the second inform it, inspected the vehicles and told to hit the money was in the ashtray. And then the, uh, the second FBI, another day I added another FBI person and he drove up with a tractor trailer. Tractor trailer, had the weapons inside though the FBI had rendered all of them are useless. They were, were there, they were taking apart somehow. Yep, exactly. So, well he's facing somewhere between five and 20 years and we'll keep an eye on this case and we'll keep you up to date. So coming up on arrested Bill Barr, who was the attorney general under George H, w Bush. Well, he is going through confirmation hearings, uh, right now on Capitol Hill. And uh, he had a couple of interesting things to say, um, about, about guns, red flag laws and a few other things that's all coming up or arrested. Other new talk one. Oh, six, seven.