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[0:10] Welcome to Stargate SG-1 for the first time, still not a Star Trek podcast. My name is Jeff Akin and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time.

[0:22] And I'm Brent Allen and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the 47th time.

[0:28] Jeff and I are two veteran Star Trek podcasters who joined forces to bring you a little show called Babylon 5 for the first time. And we had such a blast doing that show. We decided to do it right here with Stargate SG-1. So we're giving this show the for the first time treatment for me, since it's my first time and not Brent's, I'm just going to be watching the show, experiencing it as it happens and unfolds. And you get to come along with me on that journey and relive your first time experience. It's really the magic of any kind of a for the first time show is getting to relive vicariously through you that first experience. However, I am not doing it that way. What I am doing, even though I've seen this show 47 times before, for the first time, I'm going to be watching this show with an eye specifically geared towards what is Stargate trying to teach us? You know, those lessons that hold up a mirror to society, give us hope that things can be better in the future, or just teach us how to be better human beings to one another. Since this is still not a Star Trek podcast, to keep us honest and on track, we play a game called The Rule of Three. The Rule of Three limits us to no more than three references to Star Trek per episode. That's it. Three. One of those plays. No substitutions, extensions, or read. And when we do make those references, because we will, you're going to hear this sound.

[1:53] But you know, there is also the possibility. Nope, I did this again last week. It is the probability we're going to be making some Babylon five references because that's really our current jam over at Babylon five for the first time. So when we do that, you're going to hear. Yes. All right, Brent. So last week I made a prediction about the episode we're about to dive into brief candle. And I'm thinking that that prediction was we're going to go to another world and someone's going to fall into a crevice. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. was your prediction we're gonna go to another i'm taking a note from you right the king of predictions.

[2:34] The one who will be, right? Hey, on the next episode. Congratulations, you got it right. Five points to jump. They're going to go to a planet, and O'Neal's going to be in the episode. That's my prediction. But I figured they're going to go, and someone's going to fall into a crevasse, a cave, a something. Air is going to be a problem, and the brief candle, the candle's burning out. They got to save them. So we'll find out what it really is here shortly. But before we do that, Brent, why don't you lay some facts on us about this episode? Well, yeah, certainly facts. This is episode nine of season one. Brief candle originally aired September 19th, 1997. Jeff, I found out something new about this episode. I've never known before the title and where this title comes from and what this title references. I'm going to tell you what it is. I'm going to give you a chance to rework your prediction. All right. This title is a Shakespearean reference from the play Macbeth in act five. From the play.

[3:33] Yeah. the play yes yeah the play here we go it says this is what it says all right i'm going to read this verbatim from the script and i'll let you see if you can't maybe muster why they would have chosen this as the um title which i'll remind you sometimes it has absolutely nothing to do with the show looking at you parliament of dreams uh or whatever happened to mr caribaldi wasn't even in the episode wasn't even in the episode all right um all right here it says out out brief candle life's but a walking shadow a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more, It's an old tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I know the line. I know that line. God, I don't want to make the, I don't know. I could go a lot of different ways. You know what? Don't worry about it. Why don't we get into the episode? We'll talk about it on the backside and see if he can't pick it out from that. So with that, let's go ahead and jump into today's episode. If you are joining us for the first time here at Stargate SG-1 for the first time, the way this works is Jeff and I are going to go watch this episode. Right now. Jeff's never seen it before. We're going to go watch it right now.

[4:52] If you're watching with us on YouTube, you're going to get the reaction video that we put out. If you'd like to see the full unedited version of that reaction, head over to our Patreon page. It's our sort of centralized Patreon page merged in with the other show. So it's patreon.com slash Babylon five first. That's the number five, the word first. And if you're on the audio version of this, you're listening on a podcasting app like Good pods, Apple podcasts, Spotify, whatever, you're going to hear a new sound that we just made up. You might actually have it in older episodes also, but we just like now made it in production, in production timeline. It's new to us. Might be old to you, but new to us. You're going to whoosh through the gate and then you're going to come back after we've watched the episode. Don't drop out of this thing because when we come back, you're going to hear my first time reaction, to what happened in the episode, and we're going to hear Brent tackle any of those sci-fi-like messages that he may or may not have found in this one. So, Brent, let's dive in. Chevron 7 locked.

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[6:10] Let their hearts beat as one it's a shakespearean title because it's just going to be a shakespearean play the whole thing i like that you have this like temple of something or other and then yeah not just there, but honestly, this is... Like they built it around the game. It fits, like it fits better than any other thing we've seen so far. Who might this be, Daniel? Artemis. I'm not sure. Maybe early Greek, but I don't recognize the guy.

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[6:50] Was he choking her? Oh, he's on her shoulder. You are not Pelops. No, no. You mean him? No, we're visitors, friends. Oh, the child is near. Please. The midwife is gone. I do not know the birthplace. Can you imagine Stephen first in that room? Totally. You're the doctor.

[7:15] Music. Nature's got a way. So the thing I got out of this so far is he said, you are not Pelops. Pelops, yeah. So that's something. Yeah, yeah. And Daniel kind of told you it looks early Greek. We're back to Planet of the Week here, Jeff. Yeah, the mist. You know what I mean? You've had Mongolian culture. You've had the Minoans. You had the Minoans, which is kind of Greek-ish. Now you have Greeks. We had Egyptian, kind of. Oh, no, no, no. You for sure had Egyptians. Well, there were. Yeah, yeah. I'd say they're Abydosians. I'm beyond them being Egyptian. They're Abydosians. Comes right off, just like a board. Of course, Daniel knows how to birth a baby. I got this. I read a book. How do you know that? It's the old school, like, they're just waiting out in the waiting room. What does be in the way? It's a boy. Hey, congratulations. Apparently really good news. She's got chili in the crockpot, man. She's got to go.

[7:19] You know, good news, bro. It's going to happen whether you got a midwife or not.

[8:29] Music. A tripoint. Tilk has a keen interest. He's seen stuff where no one else is. And he looks like they're over.

[8:30] Birthmark. No one's freaking out.

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[9:03] Oh, well, there you go. Did they just get married? Yes, they did. Yes. Remember that episode? It's the Parliament of Dreams again. It's the second time we brought that up. I was like, I know you eat somebody's food that is offered to you in any of these situations. That means you just got married. I think you have a fan, Colonel. That's the girl that gave him the food, by the way. He's getting high as a kite right now. Dude, that's some good edibles right there, man. Look at that. I only have eyes for you. This seriously looks like an early... I was thinking the same thing. This is beat for... Oh, where's she going? Hey, this is a Showtime show, but guys... She's just checking the hem of his pants. See if he's a man of virtue or not.

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[9:55] Oh, I don't think she's going to let Jack off the hook. Well, you see Jack. You see, when someone loves someone else, they care about them a lot. Very much. They hug and they kiss. That was a pre-COVID statement. Now, how about you? Damn, you drugged me. You think? Now why don't we stick to rations?

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[10:28] I don't like the others. What the hell is going on here? Honestly, I don't think it's like a... Like how Daniel dramatically took his glasses off. I don't think this is really cause for concern. Like, it's interesting. There's clearly something going on, but they're fine. You know, like... I don't buy this as an emergency at this point. I just buy this as like an anthropological curiosity. How are you feeling? I found this shell this morning and thought maybe Danelle might like it. I can use it as a rattle. Oh, you can do something. This is him right here. This is Danelle. No no i meant the baby this is baby deno, because of the tribe tri point okay well triforce triluminary you gotta, narratively have to have something to prove it so they don't question it too long because you gotta move on with the episode how old is that boy philippos is 12 days old how old are you.

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[11:36] Briefing on this one we've been able to translate so far he wanted to know how humans evolve so he shortened the lifespan to about one 250th of normal i think he may have created some kind of virus because only one of us passed out last night and that was jack.

[11:52] Music. or the the yeah the consummation contact yeah, Technically, life is deadly. Oh, okay, sun's going down. Right on schedule. That was a pretty fast... Oh, there is physical contact with Kynthia. Oh, is that... He's old? We're gonna see Stargate old makeup. His forehead just got bigger. That's old. Hi. You do not tell the truth the average human lifespan is 60 or 70 years 80 or 90 100 years it is not possible pelops was an alien who used your people he shortened your lives to satisfy his curiosity he's got that thing going on with his voice now you know what though credit her he's looking all old and everything and she's still like Yeah, we're married. Thousands old and are still down. The only thing they appear to do is make more of themselves.

[11:54] It's the food,

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[13:15] It's the nanites. Hey, guess what? You sent them back and you sent the disease with them. Good job, Jack. What would you do if you had thousands of days ahead of you? I would walk out into the world. Go try it, dude. Go on out there. Take a walk. I will laugh hysterically if he gets blasted. Oh, there you go, Jack. You got the disease sent back to Earth. Like a squid game style? Just teach the people I know. Once again, though, it's a my way is the right way. I'm not wrong in this case. I don't necessarily agree. So my lifespan's 100 days. We can talk about that, though. Sir, if we destroy the samples, we will have nothing to work from. Sorry, the risk is just too great. The order is fine. Sir! We cannot just leave him there. Literal needs of the mini outweighing needs of the one. Colonel Neal is one of the finest mini that has ever been my pleasure to search with. But I am sure that he would not hesitate to make the same decision for himself. I'm making that. I agree. They do too. Just sucks to agree. There's one. Oh, Pelop doesn't give a rat's ass about things like love. His kind kidnapped people like you and take him to other worlds if he used as slaves. I love things of us as his slaves. I like how they turn. Like that. That. On the word of one man. And I will no longer be one of the chosen.

[14:43] Ow prescient what's going to happen in a rock just a few years after this and nothing happened look at this where's your god now where is he, we're free and then okay.

[15:04] I i will say that i do like the makeup and i like rda's acting on this one like he feels like he could be old it clearly looks like vega but it's not bad, for the mid 90s yeah yeah now that he's super old his like his voice and his acting line up but when he was medium old it was kind of it was kind of cool yeah yeah they they just saw those nanites eat through rubber in a containment unit they really think a hazmat That suit's going to do much. We'll slow them down. A little bit. Can you recalibrate this thing to wake these people up? No, sir, it's useless. I'm going to have to use the equipment that we brought with us. I've loaded the frequency. Switching it on now. This is proto-binaural beats. Hit them with those theta waves. What's funny to me is like we see the kid growing, we see Jack growing. Everybody else looks the same over the however many days we've been there. It's because in TV, 20 to 50 is one thing. Cleansed of the machines that plagued you. I figured the immune system must attack them if they aren't operating. From now on, you and your people should age at a normal rate. What about Jack? Me?

[16:15] I'll probably move to Florida. Get into a little retirement home of some kind. You look pretty out of place there at your age. I'm looking forward to a little shuffleboard with the fellas. He just made an old... Yeah, especially when he's got a 31-day-old right next to him. You are leaving. Like, hey, you're going to be here forever. Oh, shuffle. Could you all give us some privacy, please?

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[16:58] All right, Jeff. There you go. That was Brief Candle. What about it? Those nanosite things are pretty slick. Not only do they shorten your lifespan, right, to 100 days, it sounds like, but they make you pretty dang good-looking, too. So, like, you're going to maximize every single one of those 100 days. It was a fun episode. Like, I enjoyed this. It was cool. You know rda went through the aging process here right and so we got to see stargate old makeup and we got to see him you know try and sound more and more like an old guy and it didn't start well uh it was a little rough you could see like the you know where the skull cap was on his receding hairline a little bit his voice was a little not he was trying but then he got super old right like He was super old guy, looked good. The makeup was really, I mean, it was clearly makeup, but it was well done. His voice was on point. Like he's a good old guy. Like that worked out pretty well. I'm really curious though, if it's a Nanite thing, no one else had a beard. And so his hair grew really long, no beard. I wonder if that's a thing because they make him so attractive. They don't grow a beard. And I feel very self convicted right there.

[18:21] I'm just pretty sure you just said i'm better looking than you so let's i'm kind of did so i think um you know i had i had questions around like why don't they just take him back to earth why are they leaving and not taking him but we saw why ultimately i mean even without taking him those those nanites got out and went went pretty nuts um yeah i think uh the thing i found most interesting in this episode is that, um, that concept of a Gould having an idea, right? Like Pelops had this idea. He wanted to see how humanity was going to evolve and grow and what was going to happen, but he didn't want to wait thousands and thousands of years. So let's make a generation a hundred days, right? And just cycle through this thing at hyper speed. I wonder what other kinds of experiments are out there. The Goulds were like, you know, it's almost like the vaults in Fallout where they make these horrible scenarios for the people in the vaults just to you know see what see what people do.

[19:23] Jeff, I want you to take that thought and just file it in the back of your mind. So when we were watching. Well, can I pause you there? Yes. Because you're talking about Pelops and what his plan was. This may or may not be the right spot. You tell me, Jeff. How about something new that we'll add in? We're not going to do this every episode, but as it warrants itself through the course of the episode, would you like to know the real earth history of Pelops? Yeah, yeah. Pelops is from ancient greek mythology he is said to be the grandson of zeus his father was a guy by the name of tantalus do you know who i know the name yeah so tantalus we get the word tantalize, tantalus was punished by the gods where he was made to stand in like a pool of water that was like okay and every time he went to go take a drink the the water lowered and he had like some food like right right by his uh by.

[20:18] His by his hand and every time he reached up to grab it it would pull out a pull out of the way the reason he was being punished by the gods was because he took his son pelops chopped him up and fed him to the gods okay and the gods didn't know and they got really mad they eventually put pelops back together um demeter never gave her little piece back so she gave.

[20:41] Him like some ivory or something like that he did go on and find the the peloponnesian islands where that word that name comes from the peloponnesian islands of ancient greece and he ruled uh there um he had a shrine set up to him by hercules and he somehow had something to do with the finding of mount olympus and he really did do the cherry okay so uh that's that's the he's kind of a god demigod i guess more than anything you know so could be a ghoul low level ghoul yeah definitely wow that's kind of cool when we were watching the episode we had a little disagreement and i think we should dive into that i would love to because it really plays very much into a lot of the uh the messages that i got but go ahead so um i had pointed out so jack turns into conspiracy theory old man like he's just sitting on his old chair with pillows around him and anybody who walks by he's like you know it's all a lie it's all a lie listen to me kid like and he just becomes that crazy guy you know and but i i made the comment in there i'm like here we go again with jack being like my way is the right way i'm not even gonna hear yours out like yours sucks and you got to listen to me because this guy's wrong and you said well he's kind of right.

[22:01] I don't think he is. I see a problem with the manipulation that Pell Ops did and how he's using people or whatever. But if we take that out of the equation and just say, here's a group of people that have a 100-day lifespan, what's wrong with that?

[22:16] So I would like to push back on that by saying you can't take that out of the equation. That is a part of the equation. Jack knows the truth that it's not, it's not just that this is not a situation where these people's lives and culture have developed and it is, it is unique to them. They have been manipulated. And as we even see at the end of the episode, if you take the manipulation away, they're going to live a lot longer than a hundred days.

[22:46] They're going to get their thousands of days and they actually now get a chance to do something where, where I'm kind of with you as Jack recklessly. Recklessly comes in and destroys all of their belief system which their their culture their values everything is is wrapped around there is no care being taken there and if there is something we've learned from star trek is if you go in and you just rip that all away bad stuff can come fill the void yeah you know there there is a way to go about that and jack's being very very reckless with it if it was left to itself if this is just the way that people wanted to live if it's where they how they how life was for them without outside interference of an alien an alien which by the way we know is actually not there for their benefit but is there to use them as we've seen with other gould uh then yeah i i think jack's right to try to get that off although he did mention and i've never heard that before in this episode i've always i've just never heard this line teal says at one point he goes well maybe it was a good gould and jack like chokes on the cake going there's no such thing as a good goal i mean i would i would come to your side if it was possible that pelops was a good gould i think it is possible right so here's here so here's here Is it really? Really?

[24:11] Really, Jeff? Okay, so here's what we know from our time in the Babylon 5 world. We know that manipulation of someone with telepathic powers can result in them turning into a higher being and ascending as a thing. We know that there's a race called Dvorlons that what we understand of the lore, over time evolved and they became this higher kind of this first thing so what pelops could have been doing was hey in your evolutionary roadmap there's a really cool thing millions of years down the road i i'm gonna give it to you in a hundred years.

[24:57] Yes, but here's the thing, and this is what I, maybe I'm just so familiar with this, this is where my mind automatically goes, why would Pelops want to do that, though? Why wouldn't he? Maybe he's a good ghoul. Ah, no, why would he? Because remember what Pelops actually is as a ghoul. He's a parasite. Oh, so he wants better humans. if he can get a more advanced host if he can build for himself that and listen pelops is a very in in human mythology he's the he's the grandson of zeus he's he's not even a demigod he's like a like he's like one quarter god at that point like he's he's not anything.

[25:42] He's not that he's very very low level so what happens if he can do something and give himself an advantage over all the other gould and i think as you if you don't realize it now jeff as you get to know the gould a lot of their motivation is is how do we get better for hosts that they'll have no problem shedding this particular body that they have right now off they can get into something better feel like they can yeah but again that may just be my interpretation of knowing the gould as a whole yeah yeah because like at this point i mean tilk brings up it might be a good gold gold and i have no reason to think there's not you know other than it's a sci-fi show and things tend to be pretty homogenized you know as far as like oh those are the good guys those are the bad the idea that tilk would even suggest a good gould being that that you know false gods and and all of that that is that is an intriguing concept that teal would even introduce that idea so maybe i don't know but as a first-time viewer there were questions there.

[26:47] But I agree that there was manipulation of the people that made this happen, but I feel like there were two ways they could have come at this. There was the way, the anthropological way of, okay, here's what we're dealing with. You got a hundred day life cycle, you got kids, they, you know, they age super fast, all this kind of stuff. Let's understand that and get it. They talk about how, gosh, you live for thousands of days so you can learn all these things and then you can teach those things and pass them on. In a real way reproduction for humans is our form of immortality right like i can take the things of my life pass that on to my offspring who then pass on who then pass on and that's not just knowledge that's in our genetic being right like there are experience i'm experiences i'm having now today that leave markers on my genetic code and when i use that with someone else to create of life, those things pass on. So that's how we persist. Same thing can happen if the life spans 100 days.

[27:50] You know, and if I may interject there, I think there's a very natural human thing. Obsession would be the wrong word, but there is a keen interest and a keen awareness of our ancestry and humanity because of those people who've gone before us. I mean, listen, my great, great great great grandfather do you know the amount of blood that i still share with him that's running through my veins right now it's a very tiny fraction right like you know split between his wife my grandmother and then their children and that wife you know all the way down it's it's a very tiny fragment but still that's my blood you know what i mean like and the things that that guy like i can trace my family line all the way back to william the conqueror crossing the English Channel from the Norman area of France over England. I can cross it all. I can trace it all the way back there.

[28:44] And I feel super connected to that event. That was...

[28:50] 1200 years ago right in in a very real sense you were there because part of the code in your dna and your genome yeah was there yeah like you know i mean that's that you get kind of you know woo woo with some of that stuff but it's it's scientifically correct like it's how we how we do things well it's also it's also the lion king yeah you know simba's lost his dad he meets rafiki is an adult and he's like yeah my dad's whatever and Rafiki's like no your father is still alive come on I'll show you he takes him and shows him a reflection of himself and he and he goes through the whole thing and he says he lives in you he lives in you and yeah I gotta tell you I've tried to teach my children that like I am always with you no matter what happens I'm I am acutely aware of the idea that i could die at any moment and leave my young children it that's i'm acutely not not that there's anything wrong with me i just yeah car crash or whatever like yeah anything could take me out and i want my children to always know who i am where i stand what they mean to me and to never ever ever question my love for them and for that to spur them on to know that i'm always with them no matter what and that's a good thing like that's that's how i stay alive You know, and then they'll tell stories of you to their kids and on, you know, and that's how we live.

[30:17] And about to transition to the sci-fi messages that you found in this.

[30:22] But this conversation we've just had and kind of my thought was encapsulated in this one line that was the girl was the girl's name.

[30:33] Kinthia. Kinthia. Kinthia says this. And I'm like, I just like, oh, my God, this is profound. She says, the time of one heartbeat can become eternity. And so when you think about that, right, like we don't know how long we have. And so every heartbeat matters. And what we do in a heartbeat can have ramifications and impacts and ripples through eternity. And so I just, I mean, I think just from a philosophical standpoint, a hundred years or a hundred days is really irrelevant because none of us know what we have. And so, you know, try and make those heartbeats in eternity.

[31:22] And with that piece, Brent, what other sci-fi messages did you find in Brief Candle? I don't know that I could answer that question, Jeff, because that was the message.

[31:34] No, no, it's fine. It's fine. Here's the thing. Jeff, if I were to ask you this question, do you know what I mean when I say it? What are you going to do with your dash? I do know that. You taught me this. How are you spending your dash? You told me about this. You did. Have I told you this? Okay. Yeah. So look, here's the deal. you got to a graveyard, pick a graveyard, any graveyard, like they all do kind of the same thing. Go and look at every headstone. You'll see two dates on there. The day that they were, the year that they were born, the year that they died in between those two dates is a little dash. That little dash is their life. That's the entirety of their life is all contained in that dash. And the question I think that this show posits is what will you do with your dash? Jack asked this dude, I forget, I forget the guy's name. Um, he said, what would you do if you knew that you had thousands of days to live? And the guy all of a sudden starts dreaming like, oh my gosh, I would do this and I would leave and I would go explore and see what's out there. But I don't have that many days. I like, he understood a hundred days is not a lot, you know? So listen, I'm going to cherish every day here and I'm going to make the most that I can every day here but if i had thousands of days oh i'm gonna go do some stuff with it um.

[32:56] And then kenthea comes by when jack's being old and just sort of sitting there now granted jack's trying to figure out what's going on he's trying to figure out how to extend his life but really he was just being cantankerous and old and ornery and all that stuff and she says this line to him you do not spend your life you waste it.

[33:15] Yeah. You're not spending your life. You're wasting it. She said, we don't have thousands of days, so we have to treasure every moment. Okay. Let's bring this to real life. Real life is short treasure every day. Sure. We may have thousands of days. You're never guaranteed tomorrow. You're never guaranteed the next, but even a thousand days, thousands. I said earlier, I have 16,000 days and I'd like to have another 16,000, 32,000 days. Guess what? That's a limited amount of days. That's a finite amount. There's only so many spend your days. Well, don't waste your days. So I would say that the message of this, this episode is spend your dash. Well.

[34:08] Now it's up to me to to kind of give this a a rating a chevron rating of how strong, was that message some of that strength as we've often discussed jeff has to do with the intentionality of the writers what are they really trying to get across uh it is the idea of spend your life well really what they were trying to say or is this sort of incidental to the overall story i think it was a little more incidental to the overall stories that's going to pull at least a chevron or two off but it is a it's a pretty heady like they have the okay you see now timmy moments between kenthea and jack right right um so i i'm gonna leave this one here with four chevrons four chevrons i like that.

[34:58] Now, Jeff, while I get to put chevrons on this thing, you get to do the, perhaps the more fun part of this, and you get to add this to our ranking of season one episodes. It is our entirely correct. 100% immutable ironclad ranking of the episodes of season one of SG one. I will read them to you from top to bottom. There's only a handful so far. We've got the Knox sitting in at number one, cold Lazarus at number two, the broker a divide at number three we might want to rethink the immutable iron cloud a little bit there yeah uh we got children of the gods enemy within first commandment and emancipation jeff where do you place brief candle i love i love your comment on the broker divide because that's where jeff puts it right not the fandom so just you know gotta own that it's a first time view uh when i look at the ranking i'm struck by a thing and that thing i'm struck by is children of the gods smack dab in the middle and it's fascinating yeah because the three episodes above it.

[36:02] I really either enjoyed or felt a lot from the three episodes below it i could do without like completely this is where we're going to kind of break that up a little bit and so where does brief candle go and when we talk about that immutability of the piece at the point of Broca Divide, that's where it's going to go right above Broca Divide and become our new number three.

[36:30] All right. Number three, Brief Candle. Jeff, I got to tell you, Brief Candle is one of those episodes. I mentioned last week that Knox is one of those, like, if I'm ever, like, just kind of hanging out, trying to go to sleep, whatever, doing laundry, just going to throw an episode on. Brief Candle is one. Let's watch Brief Candle. That's a great episode. You know, I mean, I thoroughly, really honestly, I think some things that took it down a little bit for me, um, just the, the, the initial old man makeup was, was a little off. I I'm super bothered by the fact he didn't grow a beard and that's a me thing. I'll just have to get over that. But you made a point when we were watching the reaction that like all of the chosen in a heartbeat turned on Pelops. They're just like, Hey, this crazy old guy over here saying stuff. And so now I'm going to throw out my, that was a little contrived and ridiculous in there, but that's not horrible. It's still a super enjoyable episode. I really dug it.

[37:29] Yeah, I get it. I'm with you. Well, Jeff, that's going to do it here for brief candle. Next time. This is it. This is in the notes. I had it wrong. Next time. A cool episode. I bet you're never going to have any thoughts about what this one might be. The title of the episode is Thor's hammer.

[37:53] Jeff would you care to venture a guess as to what thor's hammer might possibly be about you've never seen this before you have no idea i know exactly where this is going what do you what do you think thor's hammer what does that bring we've gotten uh we got greeks we got you know gods we got egyptian gods we're heading to asgard right we're this is it we're gonna talk thor and odin and the whole like this is this is going to be the uh will this be the viking uh group of people or something like that and i don't know what's going to happen but that's going to be the setting i'm going to make a prediction at least around this setting that is a true brent i'm gonna leave it that vague well we will see you next time right here on stargate sg1 for the first time thank you guys so much for joining us please don't forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcast or right here on youtube make sure you subscribe to us here like share the video share the podcast with anyone out there that you know that loves sg1 or share it with somebody who you're trying to get to like sg1 for the very first time lots of people these days coming into sg1 for the first time lots of people lots of people um so yeah make sure you guys do that and that's going to do it for Jeff and I this week. So until next time, thank you guys so much. Hey, Brent. We are going to... Quick question for you. Would you like a piece of this cake that I made?

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