Serpent's Song

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Serpent's Song - Season 2, Episode 18

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[0:00] Music.

[0:11] Welcome to Stargate SG-1 for the first time. Still, not a Star Trek podcast. My name is Jeff Akin, and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time. And I'm Brent Dallin, and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the 47th time. But for the first time, I'm going through this series looking for what Stargate is trying to teach us. That's right. I am looking for those sci-fi messages. Those messages that sci-fi is uniquely positioned to tackle. Messages that hold up a mirror to society. Things that give us hope that things can be better in the future or even just teach us how to be better human beings to one another. We're going to see if any of that shows up in this week's episode. We're watching Serpent's Song. In the last episode, when you told me that was the name of the episode, I guessed that Apophis is going to be in this one. It says serpent, and that tends to have been the pattern.

[1:05] Glad you picked up on that. Right, and there's going to be some sort of like a siren song that's going to beckon to SG-1. See if that's what happens in this episode. But before we watch that, Brent, why don't you tell me about this one? Well, today's episode is the 18th episode of Season 2, or is it the 18th episode of Season 2? Entitled Serpent Song, the original air date was January 6th, 1999. For anyone keeping track, that is one week prior to last week's episode, last week being holiday that we did. Uh it's basically more chicanery with the viewing order jeff that absolutely does not matter watch any order you want very few of these episodes especially this early in the show really matter which order you watch them in i love it when it doesn't matter does really not matter uh so i don't i don't know why they go from one order to the other anyway there are two people of note i would like to point out in this episode before we get going you're going to see neither on screen.

[2:00] Unfortunately uh the first one is our writer the writer for today's episode is none other than our good friend katherine powers oh here we go she's back this is code of honor lady emancipation brought us such hits jeff as fire and water thor's hammer she did bring us thor's hammer and thor's chariot she did both of those she also brought us enigma the very cool episode enigma where we introduced to the tolan as she did brief candle which we liked quite a bit more that's where jack got old really fast um so here's the question are we gonna like this one or not well we'll find out we'll find out in just a few moments but.

[2:37] This is katherine powers this is her final entry in for season two uh the other one i want to direct is a newcomer to the stargate franchise this one is directed by a guy named peter de louise like uh bring a bell to you jeff like dom de louise this is his son really he is the brother of david and and uh i have david and david delouise in the notes over here dom david david and peter all three will make uh all three of the delouise brothers peter included will make appearances throughout the course of the show really uh it's kind of becomes a family thing a little bit i'll point them out to you when they appear um but like i said this is the first episode he is involved with anyway with that jeff i have nothing else to tell you about this episode so it's time to do the thing where we go watch the episode let's do it you guys are joining us for the very first time welcome to the show here's how this works jeff and i are going to go watch this episode right now and by go i mean we're actually going to sit right here and we're going to press a few buttons and it's going to pop up like right down here uh kind of.

[3:42] In between us a little bit we're gonna we're gonna pop up and it's gonna show up down there so yes uh so for our audience folks out there our audio folks out there hey head over to youtube.com and you can catch our reactions to this episode live as they happen if you want to join the full unedited folks uh well if you want to join the folks who get the full unedited version head So head over to our Patreon page. The most updated link is down in the notes below. And you guys can check that out for a low, low fee. Because if you are an audio listener, you're amazing. And we love that you're listening to this. But you're about to gate into the future. You're going to skip over the reaction altogether. You're going to hear my for the first time reaction when we come back. And Brent's going to share any of the sci-fi messages that he might have found in this one. Brent, let's listen to the serpent song. You're on seven, locked.

[4:47] You're on seven. Oh, we're in space again. Little ship flying away from a big one. Looks like old school Battlestar Galactica. You say we all. Shouldn't they be here by now? Yes. Tilk's looking around. He's suspicious. He's Tilk. Or for the course. There! It's a camera!

[5:17] I like when it goes all weird. I think that goes into the recording too like that. That's a death glider, right? So a thing I've just learned is that they are space-borne as well as atmospheric. I don't think I knew that before.

[5:40] Is that apophis buckets holy buckets help me what, what there you go wow yeah help me what what jeff remind us what was last you heard of apophis last we heard of apophis was it was when we saw sharae was the last time, i think we saw anything from apophis because we thought we destroyed him over the earth but then turns out we didn't he and corell got away and then here we are, So is this going to... I have a theory. Yeah. Whoa, is that who I think it is? Tori, please. Get him, Tilt. Just shut him down. Apophis is much more valuable to us alive than dead. Does not matter. At this point, does not matter. Yeah, you kill that guy. Sir, we've got incoming. That's a lot of death fighters. All right, dial us up. Get us out of here.

[6:50] 10 points jeff if you know what general hammond's referencing there they've met before remember the it's like the very first scene you ever saw of sg1 apophis steals the girl oh yeah it comes out and watch him watches watches him go that's right yeah yeah that's it so get my theory out right now okay since we're paused is this where apophis becomes gold ducat and we start adding dimensions to his character and maybe he's not such a bad guy after all but then turns out he really is but i'm feeling i'm sensing that journey right now uh-huh we'll see interesting i'm not really sure but i think what he's asking for is sanctuary great question why i think some rival ghoul just kicked his ass there were several other days yeah you tell him hammond at least he still calls him sir you're not in a position to demand anything sir frazier being a doctor right there sir with all due respect he is badly injured he's not going to be any good to you at all unless we get him into the or right now dr frazier locked down pretty well, You think? Tell him he can want into one hand and spit in the other. He wants to talk to you. He fills up first.

[8:08] Hmm. Yeah. There you go. Pull the plug. That's... Doc. It's cold, but I get it. Let me know when he dies. So, cock. An ancient and powerful gold. You have had them to become strong. The last of my loyal Java died, stealing me from his grasp. He will not rest until I am found. That is why I chose to come here. I want a new host. I'll give you all this stuff. Also, it'll make sure you die. Right, right. Incoming traveler. Speak of the devil. Maybe leave the iris shut? Yeah there are no units presently I've had a theory for a long time yeah, and I've never really paid much attention to it until this watch but you asked me a while ago why don't they leave the iris closed all the time so we just witnessed the gate opening.

[9:15] Why would they not leave the iris closed all the time as a matter of function you know, what if they're not there at the gate room to shut the iris when somebody comes through like like why why wouldn't they if that's if if the priority is keeping things out rather than letting things in right keep it shut you keep it shut i posited the idea that the the the incoming wormhole the vortex would be would obliterate the iris which is why they had to leave it open and then once the whoosh went away then they could shut the iris well that's just been proven wrong and there's really no reason why the iris should ever be left open yeah now that i can think of outside of reason at all yeah outside of drama and plot right right so anyway i'm gonna meet my queen is my wife her name is sharae she is my wife they are one and the same our very being is so much greater so much oh that changes things i know where your child is i'm gonna just throw that's out there my son i brought him into the world with my own hands on yeah daniel drop the gauntlet no yeah by me if you don't tell me where she is i'll kill you i kind of like this daniel i'm telling you dude evil talia was like the best like we were robbed not getting evil talia Totally. Like, can you imagine even evil? Yeah.

[10:41] It would be fun. We haven't had Chevron Guy for a long time.

[10:48] Right now it's just Hammond's personal secretary guy That the signature match is the one we gave the Toker, yes sir, but that it came from them, there's no way to be sure I'm with Carter, General, and I say we keep the door open, Very well Samantha.

[11:05] I like how they walk in They get, from the gate all the way to the bottom of the Toker smile, have fun the entire time a dozen guns are pointed directly at their face and they're like whatever fine i would walk in and be like i'm standing right here until you put those down i'm not to be fair they may not necessarily uh understand what all that is but still it's true still they're pointed at them yes we know you have apophis as your prisoner you must return him to the planet you retrieved him from immediately i need a why i need a while we cannot defend you from the gold, you cannot expect us to we don't overconfidence was there failing on him i hope it is not us who become yours that's a word you could use look at lantesch he is sometimes passionate he's literally playing good cop bad cop himself we cannot and would not force you to do anything But since we have not convinced you of the danger you face, may we see him. Speaker of the Tower, you have taken what is mine. For this, you will be destroyed. The iris is beginning to heat up, sir. How long can they maintain this? The longest single Goa'uld attack against an iris was 38 minutes. We think that's the maximum a wormhole can be maintained before it collapses. I'd better get on the phone with the president.

[12:31] Can you help us? I know of no way. Is it really that decision needs to be made or he just needs to inform him of the situation? It could be his neck's on the line. Heads up, we're all about to die. Yes, sir. I will accompany you. We're working on it, but just letting you know, this is what's going on right now. Too bad. That look on Tulk's face is great. He's just like, really? I will not speak to the Shulva. How do we defend against it? There is no defense. Kree also means shut up. He lies. Shulva, Kree. How can you be sure? Because he used the weapon against me. Tilky. And pain returns. And there was one. Right.

[13:14] Yeah. Come no further. Let him suffer. And when he can stand the pain no more. Tell us how to defend ourselves against Sokar's weapon. Not going to happen. Tilk, please move. There was a time when you would die for me. The time was gone. Yeah. Do you remember there's a gift with Londo in it where he's like, there was a time I would have agreed with you. That time has passed. That's Tulk when it was a little more hardcore. There was a time you would have died for me. That time is no more. You were once possessed by a Gwarwild. I'm sure you will make an excellent host for Sokar's new queen. The president and joint chiefs have decided that the risks are too great not to heed the Tokars' warning. Our orders are to send Apophis' body back through the gate to the coordinates where you found him. Colonel, make arrangements to send Apophis back to the story. I like how Dr. Frazier doesn't like it, but also she's like, those are the orders. You will pass through the seven gates and see your wife and children again and... Rejoice with them forever. Aren't you obligated in sci-fi anytime you say I'll be back to do it like Arnold Schwarzenegger? It's in the rules. Yeah, that's no joke, man. Sir, we're going to lose the computers. Especially those guys. Those are old, like, probably Pentium 166s. We need them, sir. One more minute until the window.

[14:43] Jack's not moved even a little bit. No.

[14:49] I am I'm afraid. That's it. Initiate the dialing program. I told him this funerary statue would take his last breath and carry his soul back to Egypt. Like how it says accelerated dial-up sequencer. Right. Let's just be clear what's going on.

[15:17] Do it. Do it. Do it. Thank you. All right, you got 38 minutes, guys. Go. I hope you paid the power bill this month and they don't cut you off in the middle of this. Captain Carter has succeeded in creating an outgoing wormhole. Sokar cannot attack during this time. That's good. I'd be mad if I was Teal'c. I'd be there for that. I get Teal'c in this moment here. I really do. I'll talk about it later in the audience. Side of it. I get tilting this one. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be a cool scene. Cool little shot.

[16:07] And that's it for Apochus. If Sokar wanted him alive, he'll just start up the attack. Sure knows a lot about Sokar. No, I don't believe he will. Sokar has a sarcophagus in his possession with it he can revive apophis even if so car happens to be on that planet right surely a fate he justly deserves all right let's send them home people you think they're using the accelerated dialing program to send them home they're gonna use it all the time now.

[16:47] All right jeff so we have just watched serpents song welcome back to all of our audio listeners who have just gated right here into the future we finally caught up with you jeff take us through it how was your first time watching experience of serpent song just a few.

[17:05] Minutes into this one i was like is this the gold ducatification of apophis ah yeah like this is where we get more insight into him maybe he's not such a bad guy after all not really the case this is a lot more complex version though than gold like gold ducat was just a dude who like you know had a lot of stuff going on this is two dudes with a lot of stuff going on so the cool thing one of the cool things in this episode is we got to meet apophis's host yeah that's kind of cool so he was ancient yeah scribe way back in ancient egypt and just seemed like a guy the i don't know i don't know the actor's name for apophis i've never really paid attention peter williams peter williams yes great job like he like the tone of his voice the way he kind of carried his shoulders changed a little bit you could tell when he was being host and when he was being apophis but even as apophis as things went down and it continued he got more vulnerable and like at the very end you know one of the last things he said is i'm i'm afraid and i believed that you know just the the acting really really brought this thing home so we met.

[18:19] We got the concept of this guy named Sokar, ancient ghoul, powerful ghoul that at some point he was like the ruler of all the system lords. And apparently now he's back and he's going after Apophis. At the same time, we got to see Martufa. Is that his name? Martufa? Martuf. Martuf. Yeah, just Martuf. Martuf again. Or Shade Hada if you're a hundred fan. But we got to see the Tok'ra and Martuf again. And Brent, I am staking the claim right now that the Tok'ra are working with Sokar. Martoof just knows way too much and is way too confident about what his next moves are going to be, the equipment that he has, and everything. He was way, way invested in getting them to send Apophis through the gate back to Sokar. Okay. Can I poke a hole in that? Okay. I'm not saying you're wrong.

[19:15] Lots of times though they have told us they have operatives out there they have their secret people out there they have their people out there collecting information they've told us that multiple times again i'm not saying you're wrong you might be right also they do have lots of spies out there that give them all sorts of information remember how remember how mad uh the the head lady of the tokro war when they found out that the torii were the ones who destroyed apophis's two ships like we had lots of operatives on those ships oh yeah so but to me it's not so much it's not just that they have all that information it was the the urgency uh-huh they had hey so car wants this thing and you better give him better give it to now yeah yeah like i said i'm not saying you're wrong i'm just you know throwing throwing stuff out that's all that's just throwing it out you know i like i liked the additional dimensions to apophis in this i liked that he's not just bad guy anymore he's still a bad guy but like he's got a little a little more humanity to him now a little more a little more sympathy not like in the sense of like oh maybe he's kind of a good guy but in the sense of like there's a human there a tauri there that is suffering in this unending nightmare yeah i loved tilk tilk takes it away for me in this episode So just his posture.

[20:37] His voice, everything. He's just like, I have waited so long for this, and I'm going to enjoy every second of his suffering. It was great. Yep.

[20:48] If in the future, so Apophis died. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just while you're talking about Teal, can I just dive into something? I said this to you while we were going through the recording, but the audio folks didn't get to hear me say this.

[21:01] There's that moment at the end when Apophis has died and, and tilt comes into the room he was not there to see the death he was not you know he comes into the room and he's like oh it's oh oh there he is and then the next shot we get is teal carrying apophis's shrouded body and throwing him through the through the gate and i said when i saw that i was like i actually get teal care i really get teal care um my biological father and i uh unfortunately i didn't know him very well growing up he was never a huge part of my life.

[21:38] Uh not for lack of want on my part he just chose not to be there he did try to come back in my life a little bit when i was an adult and you know it just never never really worked and then and i tried i tried reaching out i tried those things and my dad unfortunately uh he just wasn't a great dude i hate to say it just wasn't a great dude um the literally the last two words he ever spoke to me were f you yeah he told me that that's you know what i mean uh but i remember when he passed away i was in key west i was on spring break with some college buddies when he passed away and i got a phone call saying you need to come up here because literally i am the only one who can like sign paperwork and stuff for him wow like if i didn't go you know so i was like okay fine and i remember i got up there and i was i was outside of his you know he was he was in full-on heart failure full-on hospice like he was done and i was standing outside i was talking on the phone to my mom i was like you know he's he's just stubborn enough he's enough of a jerk maybe he's just gonna pull through you know and they came out like actually he just passed oh like i wasn't in the room when it happened right and i remember walking in and just kind of there he was and i was like like i i kind of saw something in teal's eyes there that it was like it just seemed very familiar, you know, and, and I remember on the backside of it feeling like I had a responsibility to finish him.

[23:07] To, to see that piece through the.

[23:11] Whatever yeah even though i had no responsibility like by all rights like you know what f him right yeah you know but it was still like it's the responsibility of a son i think to to you know put put the the the period at the end of the sentence and move on you know um and so to see teal in this moment where he was the one carrying sokar it's not that he was carrying uh the frail past body of apophis not because he was the strongest or he was the only one who could carry him it was right in a proper that teal could be the one to to send him on and in many ways like apophis was his not good dad yeah you know what i mean like i don't know i just it kind of struck me in that moment in a way it's never really struck me before of like i kind of think it i where teal is coming from like he feels a responsibility to be the one to do that um, not even necessarily there's a whole lot of pleasure in it it just it's a responsibility it's a responsibility there is a bit of catharsis in it i think you know in many ways but.

[24:26] That's just my story that's me interpreting brent's own life onto a piece of art so there you go i think for you you know you can say your dad wasn't a good dude and i didn't know him i only know what you've shared of him but i know there had to be some good in him because you came from him right and so there you go that said though yeah he didn't give you much more during your life he gave you life and then not a lot more that bit of life though was enough to give you that But I need to carry this out. Sure. With Tilk and Apophis, Apophis kind of gave him life also. Made him a Jaffa. Made him the first prime. And so much of who Tilk is, is a direct result of Apophis and decisions that Apophis made. So to see him dead, one, is something to celebrate for Tilk. I have wanted this for so very long. Also, I have a responsibility here because I exist because of you.

[25:29] Yeah. And in a weird way, at that moment, it's not really a celebration. You might think it's going to be this big celebration, this big, you know, whatever. But the truth is, in the moment itself, it's very somber. You know, it really is. So, I don't know. It really is. Yeah. I was going to say, it really is. Martuf in this talks about all the crimes Apophis is guilty of, all the atrocities that he's committed. And he says he cannot escape punishment for this. And it's almost that where Tilk has wanted the death of Apophis for so very long. He's wanted to punish him for everything he's done. Now he's punished. He's dead. he's a shell sitting there just a just a body nothing else right and he's like wow this really doesn't do it like yeah the punishment actually didn't make anything better and i still kind of have this hole in me i need like you said need some catharsis so i'm going to put him through the gate and feed him to socar but like this is this did not give me what i was hoping to get, turns out you know what that is not a message i think this show is going for but i absolutely.

[26:44] Think that that is contained within that moment right there you know but you have to you have to really read through the lines to catch all that anyway go ahead jeff i i interrupted you well now i feel i have a couple other thoughts i just feel they feel empty after this big conversation but the one the one that i that i will the two things that i'll hit and then we'll dive into those sci-fi messages one was that we we learned a little bit more about joel and r in this that i think is important. And that was Joel and I was executed specifically with this device that was then used on Apophis that really causes like this hyper aging thing to happen. And it's an excruciating way to die. So note, right. Also a note on Catherine powers. Okay. This is a good episode. It had a lot in it and I, and I enjoyed watching it. She's had a number of those episodes, brief candle, the Thor's, the Thor's episodes. They're like, these are, these are good episodes, but just like the Thor's ones, geez, like, is she capable of writing an episode that doesn't feel like you're walking through molasses running uphill in the winter time?

[27:55] At some point, I'm just like, this episode has got to be almost done. And I looked at the little runner. It wasn't even halfway there and i'm like yeah yeah the pace picked up a little bit like in the middle of the last quarter but just i i i got i found myself getting bored more than once during this one i hope you didn't find yourself getting bored because there was some stuff i think to dive into in this one intentionally not what were the sci-fi messages you pulled out of this oh gosh jeff i mean there were there were so many that they went into and you know a lot of times we talk about the intentionality of the message i think they were all here you know one of the things we often talk about here in stargate specifically is this idea that they they introduce a concept and then they don't do anything with it they just go on they don't discuss it this is probably about one of the better discussions of a topic that we ever got and i'm not even really sure how well it was discussed but there's a great conversation i think between jack and apophis that really sums the whole thing up where apophis is asking for a new host that's the price for.

[29:03] All this stuff that everybody wants because there's this debate of what do we do with them what do we do with them should we have shot him should we just kill him you know does he have rights as an enemy who is who has been captured uh he does he fall under the geneva convention jeff right yeah and what is the purpose of the whole geneva convention how do we treat humans how to treat people what of the host do we have to consider the host in this whole thing we saw the host we heard from the host we saw papa saying i am i am scared i'm afraid yeah and and he gets this whole whole spot and his his whole thing is i'll do all this stuff you want because turns out to the gould all that really matters is to live not to live with quality.

[29:50] They just want to live which i think might inform a lot with them when you think of them as slave masters and that sort of stuff right and as host as parasites using hosts well at least you're alive because that's what really matters um but it's this he says is a single human life worth so much that you would risk the entire world and jack says yes that's why they call us the good guys yeah it's so good you know such a great line and you know so i think it goes back to that so what is what do we do with our enemies what do we do i think the easy the two easy ones that always come to my mind these are the easy ones to go to there's hitler from history and then within our own lifetime osama bin laden okay yeah you know those are the two that my mind immediately go to but you could go throughout all human history and find some big evil you know archetype guy who uh is just worst of the worst what do you do with them when you catch them yeah you know uh do you still treat them with any kind of respect do you give them medical care how far you know on some level they were giving him medical care so that they could keep him alive to talk to him okay.

[31:05] But were that but dr frazier's like actively trying to save his life as well this is a sentient being right here i need right i'm a doctor i'm going to protect it and listen we could talk about it being for the host and trying to do it for the host the host didn't even factor into the thing until halfway through the whole deal or maybe even a little bit more they were trying to save apophis not the host you know uh at least at first there was a concern for apophis even in the middle of that though that he wasn't tortured they offered him morphine comfort they didn't have to give him morphine that was not required to keep him alive right um.

[31:47] Or maybe i don't know can you pass out and die from pain i guess i don't know trauma yeah i don't know but still there was there was they would not let certain things happen they weren't going to just toss his body back through the gate and let sokar have his way you know they were very against that for their own personal reasons but also for humane reasons that's when they really brought in the the host martoof jack ilk all of these people even daniel were constantly questioning whether or not Apophis just deserves whatever he gets it was a constant question that they discussed that they never gave us a direct answer and I'm not mad at that because lots of good sci-fi doesn't give you a direct answer they present the question they discuss it they show it to you from both sides and then they say here you go make a decision Jack though specifically is our stand-in more often than not he is the stand-in for the viewer okay explain this really hard concept to me like I'm eight years old for all the viewing audience out there yeah because they don't get it either right right.

[32:53] Um he seems split at times and i think the answer is is because we are supposed to be split on something like that yes there is a humanity yes we do not want to torture yes we do not want to want to uh we want to be better than our enemies are to us at the same time they're absolutely deserving of everything they get yeah they they by the by the choices they made they gave up their their rights to comfort and to uh they gave up their did they give up their human rights that's the question maybe maybe maybe not you know um i do think jack typically was on the side of yeah screw you dude yeah i'm not doing anything for you but still there were times where it felt like he was kind of waffling both way to be a decent human, but to recognize, no, this is actually a really bad guy. And here's what we get to do with really bad guys. He's like, I just should have shot him. And he's right. It would have made it so much easier to shot him and be done with it. You know, and I think he would have been well within his, his, his rights to do so. You know, talk about a clear and present danger. With that said, Jeff, I really thought it was there. I think it's a fascinating discussion. What do you do with an enemy combatant, an enemy general, right?

[34:12] When you capture them, who has truly been an awful, awful human being, committed so many war crimes. What do you do with them? How do you handle them? uh jeff i'm gonna give this one five out of seven chevrons wow yeah because i think because it it hit the message it discussed it it went back and forth didn't really answer it is there more they could have done yeah i do i think there's a lot more they could have done they could have had a lot more of the moral dilemma the moral conversation but they just allowed the characters to be in the moral dilemma without really like discussing it a whole lot which was okay i'm not i'm not knocking it for that but yeah i'm gonna give this one a five out of seven that is my uh completely accurate and random number that i pulled out of seven accurate immutable yes made up number i love that because 34 seconds yeah because what it does is like right now based on everything that it showed in that episode you and i could debate what's the right thing to do yeah like it it lays the groundwork for that conversation it doesn't tell you right it doesn't force anything down it but it opens the question up and it makes it makes it.

[35:23] Very easy for for two people or a group of people to have a conversation about it i think that's that's the thing that sci-fi does better than almost any other art form and and especially when we when we when we not only recognize that there was still a host but suddenly the host emerged and we started hearing the host who's been under the spell for how many thousands of years at this point so long you know you've got it i mean you've got to feel for that host it's at this point like you know just put the it should we just put the host out of his misery at this point is it mercy now yeah well he goes i've been i've been in a nightmare for so long i'm waking up just to die.

[36:03] That sucks. Yeah. Also, I want to see my wife and my kid. Like, it's been thousands of years, and that's all I want. That was a cool thing, I think, also, that the host only wanted that. Also, all Apophis wanted was Shawray was Aminette. Aminette. Aminette. Yeah. That's kind of sweet. That's romantic, you know? And, yeah, it's powerful stuff.

[36:30] Yeah. uh so five out of seven is what i'm gonna uh randomly give it jeff i rated the episode you my friend get to rank the episode now this is 100 accurate immutable definitive our ranking of season two actually jeff's ranking of season two stargate sg1 jeff our top five currently i'm gonna go from the bottom to the top number five is currently spirits that's where we found out about the trinium number four is thor's chariot a katherine powers episode number three is secrets where we find out about jacob the number two episode is serpents grasp slash serpents lair we're going to add another serpent to the top five let's find out and then our top episode of the season is the fifth race jeff where do you place this episode serpents song well the top five like i said has a serpents episode and a Catherine powers episode. There will not be a second one of those in the top five, but it's going to be close.

[37:34] I, I, I was waffling a little bit on just exactly where I was going to place it amongst these, the couple in this, in this spot. But I feel again, that I, I've really enjoyed this Joel and our story, getting to know the Tok'ra and all this stuff that's tied to that. And this, this touches on that in a real way. So I'm going to kind of keep But in that line, as I put it just above in the line of duty, making it our new number seven.

[38:04] Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, you do. You have clumped right there. Six, seven, and eight. Tok'ra parts one and two. Serpent song in the line of duty. I dig it. I dig it. I see one in there. I still think it's a bit low, but it's okay. It's okay. But then you said duty. So. I did.

[38:25] Well, Jeff, with that, that's going to do it for us here with Serpent Song, another episode in the books. As we turn the page, Jeff, would you like to know where we're watching next week? Yeah, let's hear it. We are watching an episode. I want to see if you can figure out what this one's going to be about. We are watching an episode titled One False Step. One False Step? Yeah. Give it a guess. You're not going to get it. I'll just let you know. You're not getting this big, high tension situation. I'm thinking of, um, I'm thinking of the scene in the office. Okay. When, which is a scene that's played out in many things where everyone's holding their, their gun hands up and they're all pointing at each other. And whoever makes the next false step is going to, the whole thing is going to break down into a big shootout. So some sort of a stalemate and whoever makes the wrong step is going to make the whole thing blow up. So are we able to find a diplomatic way out of this thing or are things going to escalate into a really big conflict? You're a good guesser, Jeff. I sure am. I think I've gotten one episode out of like the 50 we've watched so far. So. All right. Well, folks, that is going to do it for us here on Stargate SG1 for the first time. Thank you guys so much for joining us, especially through some of the technical difficulties we had in tonight's episode.

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