Forever in a Day

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Forever in a Day - Season 3, Episode 10

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[0:00] Welcome to Stargate SG-1 for the first time, still not a Star Trek podcast. My name is Jeff Akin and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time. And I'm Brent Allen and I'm also watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time. However, I actually have seen this show quite a bit before, 47 times to be exact. However, for the very first time, I am watching this show intentionally looking for messages that maybe I've just never thought about before. You know, those good sci-fi messages that sci-fi uniquely is positioned to do. Things that give us hope that things are going to be better in the future. Things that hold up a mirror to society and show us how awesome or stupidly ugly we are. Or just teaching us how to be plain better human beings to one another. We're going to do that today by watching the 10th episode of the third season of SG1, Forever in a Day.

[0:50] Last week, I guessed what this one was going to be about. And I thought it might be a sequel or an inspired by Brief Candle. Basically compressing someone's lifetime where they live forever in a day and we'll find out if that happens before we get there though brent why don't you tell us a bit about this episode jeff i'm going to give you a bit of a teaser for this episode oh yikes okay all right here's a here's your teaser this is an episode that you don't realize it right now in this moment you will by the time it's done you have been waiting for this episode for a long time really I know you.

[1:26] I've known you for a very long time at this point. I've worked with you a lot. You have been waiting for this episode for a long time, and you don't even know why right now. You'll find out, though. Oh, my gosh. Expectations right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That says nothing about the quality of the episode. Fair enough. Fair enough. All right. The episode could be way up here. It could be here. I'm just saying you have been waiting for this episode for a long time. Awesome. Okay, cool. This is not the TKO of SG-1. At least I don't think it is. That's too bad. It's not that. It's not that. But we'll talk about that more on the backside when we have a chance to watch the episode here in just a few minutes, because, Jeff, we're going to do that. Actually watch the episode. Before we get there, this is, as you mentioned, the 10th episode, season three, Forever in a Day. Airdate, October 8th, 1999. In case you're keeping track, last time was August 20th. So we've had a little bit of a break. Hey, listen, not bad. New season premieres. They get nine episodes in a row. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. It's time for a little break. You know, they took a few weeks off. So October 8th, this episode is written by our show creator, one of our show creators, Jonathan Glassner. Okay.

[2:24] Directed by our resident Alfred Hitchcock, Peter DeLuise. So we'll be on the lookout for that cameo as we go into that. That's all I got for you on the front end of this, Jeff. There is quite a bit on the back end I want to share. Okay. But I can't do it until we watch the episode. Otherwise, I'm going to give the whole dang thing away. So I want to do this. I want to see this thing with that. It's time for us. As I mentioned just a second ago, we're going to go watch this episode. If you guys are joining us for the very first time, here's how this works. for the third time. I'm going to say Jeff and I are about to go watch this episode right now, but we're not going to pause the recording and go watch the episode and then come back as some other people do. We're going to keep the recording going. If you're hanging out with us on YouTube, you're actually going to get our reactions. This is going to turn into a reaction video. You'll get our reactions to this episode live as they happen.

[3:13] If you want the full unedited version of this entire thing, the behind the scenes, no cuts, all the bloopers, all this, the other stuff, head over to our Patreon page at patreon.com slash bye nerds and you can check out how you can get that along with a whole other list of really cool benefits and you know even how you can make a whole bunch of new friends if you're one of our awesome audio podcast listeners thank you for leaving us that five star review it means the world to us but you're about to join us on the other side of this episode Jeff can I stop you just for a second? You may I want to make a plea that we have not made at least to my knowledge I don't think we have made this in sg1 for the first time okay we did this quite a bit in babylon 5 for the first time but but here's the thing stargate sg1 for this is specifically to you podcast listeners out there you to youtube folks you guys are the same it's all cool so you podcast folks out there stargate uh for the first time is very different it's on a different feed it's a different podcast than babylon 5 for the first time those of you that were with us at babylon 5 you guys were amazing at leaving us ratings and reviews blew us up you guys are by and large one of the main reasons that Babylon 5 became the success that it was because you guys were telling people how much fun you were having watching the show however Stargate for the first time is a different show altogether which means those reviews don't carry over to this show so here's what we'd love to ask you guys specifically even if you've already left us a rating and review of Babylon 5 for the first time.

[4:41] Please go over Jeff. I think you'll agree with me on this one.

[4:45] Please go over to Stargate for the first time. The feed you're listening to this episode in and leave us a brand new rating and review for this show right here. Stargate SG one for the first time. Back to you, Jeff. Thank you. Please do that. After you've gone and left us that review, if you haven't already, but go do that really quick. Then we're going to meet you on the other side of the episode. I'm going to share my first time reactions. Brent's going to share the sci-fi messages he pulled out of it. Brett, let's do this forever in a day. Cair on 7, locked.

[5:15] Music.

[5:30] Clear! It's not who you're expecting. For a second, I thought they were locking people up. Hey, that's a dude. We got your message they took him the son of my daughter secrets right secrets she had to be so if you remember flashback the last time we we saw good father we saw sharae uh she gave birth to the baby yep the baby that remember it's forbidden among the gold for two hosts to mate and produce an offspring for reasons do you remember what those reasons were i don't remember the reasons i don't remember that told you but i i remember.

[6:10] That when they're the baby's in utero it basically blocks the hope the the symbiotes so like that's got to be at least part of it sure so reasons and if you'll remember the baby was born they wound up giving the baby to well i work at home good father i forget his actual character's name that's like daniel's father or something like that but yeah because because because kasuf no because no kasuf is somebody wait martoof is the martoof's the uh julinar dude yeah yeah kasuf because whatever good father lord yeah i've just watched the show too many times i just don't remember um but anyway uh they gave it to him to like go hide the baby because who else would you give it to to hide friday yeah well didn't they say they that uh her her her her her took it and then that like staved off apophis or whatever they lied and said harrow took it and that's why harrow and apophis were fighting yeah when apophis like bit it harrow killed apophis to send them to socar and all that sort of stuff and as they were as uh as oh aminette amin aminette is the name of the ghoul that's in shara yeah so she was aminetted back up and walking into stargate and she looked, right at the baby and Daniel and everybody and just walked through Stargate and didn't say a word didn't say a word yeah.

[7:31] I actually remember all that. Yeah, good, good. Previously on Stargate SG-1, here we go. I hate it when closed captioning gets things spelled incorrectly. Oh, shoot! That's Harrohor's dude, right? Yeah, and that's, so Sharae and the, oh man. Is Apophis is dead? Is she with Harrohor now? I like how their armor isn't doing jack. I like how he's like trying to walk. It's like, this is real heavy. I always like the stunt guy that face plants in their legs. Are those Jaffa? This is the most intense firefight we've had on the show to date. Here goes Jack now, man. They're like, we have a few extra bucks this season. Let's go ahead, let's get a bazooka, an RPG, a big old chain gun. Let's get a mouth tank. Like all of Horror's forces. Like this is ground zero. Don't move. She is beautiful, isn't she? I mean, good night. Like, where you and the system lords will never find him. How much conflict he's got to have right now if he's holding a gun at his wife. And she's about to give him a hand. It's a PG-13 joke. Like she's hand thingy. And she's hand. Oh, sure. Fight it. My host cannot help you. Whatever she's doing, she's taking her sweet time. Sure. Oh. Sure.

[8:58] Music.

[9:10] That has to be the most intense, exciting, cold open to date by far. You think so? Oh, my God. Wow. Huge firefight. All of Harrowers dudes there. Sha Ray hand blast in Daniel. And then. That is not what you called it. I did not.

[9:26] I'm correcting on the path. But come on. It really is what it is. It is what it is. You know what's happening right now, Jeff? everybody who's watching is loving the way you're reacting because we've all seen this however many times we're just like yeah that's what happens you're like oh my god i'm like oh yeah it actually is that good isn't it i forgot this is awesome this is so good yeah and this is this is ah this is what i thought the season one with you know with some changes because apophis has already gone but like this is this is the daniel charade daniel aminette thing because it sounds like charade, oh my god let's just get back into it i gotta shut up and watch yeah don't take a lot of notes man, just watch it is i who am responsible ah i was forced to fire upon and terminate the life of good for him for just saying it and owning it but oh my god no no no they have a sarcophagus she's still out there somewhere alive like i feel bunched up in my stomach over this like oh man Kazoov. My son. It's a sad day for us all. No. I know this will be difficult for you to understand, Kazoov, but the demon inside your daughter will help her rise again. Is this true? Nothing. I'm sorry, credit to whoever the guy is doing the score on this episode.

[10:51] Just damping the level of all of this up. I love that Tilk is staying with him. Not hiding from anything.

[11:00] Is that DeLuise?

[11:07] Why didn't you leave her there i don't i don't think it is i'm sorry i have to go back and check now i'm sorry i hate to interrupt this moment i know but uh maybe that might be him there were no they left we were victorious daniel jackson we brought kasuf to prepare her body according to abedonian tradition the good news is we managed to save most of the abedonians And for them, we're eternally grateful. You should have waited longer. I would have gotten through to her. She was trying to kill you, Daniel. No, she wasn't trying to kill me. You dropped your gun. Aminette was trying to kill me. If I had to do it again... No, don't, don't. I would do the same. Don't... That's cool you're his friend. You didn't need to say that last piece. Still...

[11:55] Music.

[12:04] So just like, I want to put myself in the mind space of Daniel really quick because, and by doing that, I'm just trying to, you know, have some empathy and put myself in that place. The love of my life is hand blasting me slowly. Like that was like, she could have just drawn that out. Right. And it's not going well. Hold on. Hold on. Can I correct that just for a second? um you if you noticed he did the slow no sorry yeah it wasn't that it was it wasn't that she was drawing it out and and hanging it out as much as the the show was showing you time slowing down they are slow for daniel is is kind of what was happening just just to be clear because because if if they ribbon device you they kind of got to sit there for a minute to like like they can blast you and shoot you backwards or they can and it takes them a moment to to really get you down okay so the the implication in that scene was that that uh not that time had slowed it just it's like we were suddenly watching it in slow-mo like teal was coming in like.

[13:14] Is really yeah that makes sense but yeah he's in that moment he has a narrative that it was going to be okay right but we've seen because he felt like he was getting through Because you got to imagine, I would think if you're in that position, time does sort of slow down. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, so he feels like he's getting he's getting through the parasite to his wife who, you know, whatever. Like his last time last time he saw her, he got Sharae.

[13:44] You know and so that's and then aminette came back so that was his last memory but i'm just trying to put him in that in the place where we've spent now two and a half years of him you know trying to figure out a way to get his to get his his wife back the love of his life even if tilk hadn't come in and killed her even if he had just come in and you know shoulder tackled her or whatever or they did sarcophagus her she tried to kill him yeah but now she's dead he's got a like there's i don't know i'm just trying to like really put my right my wrap my mind around all the things he has to process right now all at the same time and then tilk like did the right thing i think yeah this this might be something to discuss later when we get to the actual show but um there is a very human need to place blame oh yeah when something happens like to to you know and he just said you should have waited longer i would have gotten through to her and he's like no actually i shouldn't have right i probably should have got there a little sooner yeah and you know And we always want to place blame at the feet of like one person. We want to boil it down to like, it's your fault, you know, and I'm going to say, I'm going to say human need. I don't know that this is a worldwide basic human thing as much as it might be an American thing because it's something we certainly do here in this country that we do. Yeah.

[14:58] I don't know about the people in the rest of the world if it's the same way in their countries as well. I can't speak to that, but my human experience tells me people just instinctively feel the need whenever something happens to go it's your fault and almost it's never the fault of the person who's actually the perpetrator it wasn't shara's fault or not even sure it wasn't aminette's fault it was teal's fault like yeah yeah let's get that but wow this is this is big shara saw me writing in my journal and thought the ballpoint i was using was magic great acting there.

[15:31] You can feel that compassion daniel it's healthy to hold on to those memories i don't want to take her all those wonders we have at our disposal and i couldn't save her let me know if you need anything okay i love how this show just really leans on the strongly developed friendships you know that they have you can this isn't the first time, it's nice that was a commercial cut by the way yeah okay yeah you're awake he's awake Hey, how do you feel? Confused. I bet. You're alive. I am. As are most of our people. Thanks be to you. You're living in your brain right now. He's going to be okay. Oh, it looks that way. Yeah. Danielle, we were about to do an H.J. What do you say? I only came to tell you about the boy.

[16:43] Is there something I can help you with, Dr. Jackson? I've come to tender my resignation. I won't accept it. I'm not military, sir, and it's a free country. Last I checked, anyway. You're obviously in an emotional state right now. Why don't you take some personal time, then see how you feel. That's not necessary, sir. I joined this program so that I could find my wife. I found her. End of story. It's true. I wonder how long it really would take him to pack up his office lab, quarters. Meet the whiz kid they saddle us with while you're out of commission. Give it a week. You'll miss me. Yes, all the salty, bad-tempered insults, all the illogical arguments. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I miss Carter and Teal. Bro, you should have just said Carter. I miss Carter. Yeah. And you'll miss the excitement. All the new cultures you get to explore the living history up until now every time I set foot through that gate I was thinking about my wife you know he's been with multiple women between then and he was under the influence each time but Hathor and like.

[17:44] Was he really under the influence each time I hope you understand the SGC may be the single most important human endeavor for the future of mankind I like how he rattles that off the top of his head I've been working on the pitch The SGC will go on without me. It all fits in one box. Please get out of my way, Teal'c. I will. As soon as you give me that hug. But you must hear me first. I have a pretty good idea what you want to say. Good. Well, then hear it. Is there not some form of human ritual in which I may ask your forgiveness? No. No. I spent time thinking about Daniel, but Teal'c, I mean, he could have watched his friend die or kill his friend's wife. Yeah. It's a pretty crappy arrangement, isn't it? Yeah. Now what? Now I get on with my life.

[18:26] Music.

[18:34] Hear me danielle they all start with that right there's something some message she's trying to convey the host got some message through go back to sleep she's never warned that before rise and return to your travels through the shatai welcome to earth i won't you know what She just said, she's like, you're going back to work, Jack. I don't need to anymore. I've already found you. You must continue so you can find the boy. To continue your travels, you must first forgive Tilk. She's almost like his Jiminy Cricket coming in and kind of directing him, letting his conscious be his guide.

[19:22] This scene has a really cool detail to you that Jeff will pay attention to. You see what's right in front of him? It's almost like a cross. Nope. What's on the end of each side of the cross? Those bones? Nope. I speak for Sharae, who can no longer speak for herself. If my heart weighs more than a feather, my soul still contains sin. If not, may my soul join the God. It's a beautiful ritual. By the trial of the great scales, thy heart is light. Thy soul has been found true. My heart is still burdened. Why? your daughter is with the god but you still have not heard her i don't understand what she has to say is important to all of our future you must forgive tilk and together you must find the boy why for he is her sis the one who holds the secrets the boy is the son of two goa old hosts he contains all the secrets of the goa old you must find him.

[20:24] What's tilk doing here jeff forgiveness work am i interrupting what is this good to see you daniel jackson you know what this is oh yeah it's the thing i forget the name of it it's got a, one of the vulcans call it something i always think of the word for the jaffa not those vulcans but it's the same idea if two goulded hosts have a child it's strictly forbidden, punishable by death if two hosts were to mate and produce a child that child would contain all the knowledge of the Goa'uld. So the genetic memory that Gould have in their DNA is passed on to the human offspring? That is correct. Such children are called Harsesis. These children are hunted down and destroyed by the Goa'uld with great impunity. Daniel Jackson, it pleases me greatly that once again, you value my knowledge.

[21:09] Trying to get Robert out of your unit? Well, yeah. No, just trying to get you back. Any chance of that happening, sir? Only chance would be if you reconsidered. Okay. Okay. Good. Sir Rothman's gone. What? Okay. Let's just say that there's something through the Stargate that I think I still have to be the one to find. Now, see, I miss that. I have no idea what he means, but I buy it. What do you say, General? Haven't put through his resignation papers yet. Good. So he's in. Just like that. So, Bruce Jenner. Sit this one out. I've never heard that before. Why? Hashtag didn't age well. You've been reassigned. No, I didn't. Why? Because you suck. Okay, you're being replaced. Why? Because I'm intimidated by your intelligence. Where's the confusion here? What? So I'm going to bring in someone with an even bigger reign.

[22:07] I like that purple color there. Yeah, it's pretty. It's good to have you.

[22:21] Hey, where'd he go the address cleared before i got here i didn't say my money's on abydos or wherever this is this isn't abydos i don't know where this is yeah there's a lot of greens yeah i don't think they ever tell us where it is well it's like px421 or something like that Emanot brought them to? Oh, yeah. That's not a good thing to see right there. Right? You are finally here. You are the only one who can save the boy, Dania. He's a harcesis. He contains all their knowledge. Amonet took the Abedonians as a show so that Heru-Ur would not know her true goal. To take the boy. She has sent him into hiding with her closest aid. Where? Keb it's the mythical place where osiris is hid from set keb is a myth no where is it promise me you will save the child yeah tell me where he is this is no time for melodramatics give me the address, this works too we can toy do this that's all right.

[23:40] You catch this day jeff we're back in real time now yeah i love you daniel that's what actually happened yeah well so everything this whole episode has been has all been in that moment uh-huh yeah forever in a day or, I am sorry, Daniel Jackson. You did the right thing, Teal. You have literal goosebumps right now. Like, that was big. Oh, man. Teal. Daniel Jackson will be fine. I love you, too. I love you, too.

[24:20] Music.

[24:26] All right, Jeff. So we have just watched forever in a day or, you know, forever in a moment, whatever for the very first time, Jeff, um, I have to tell you before you go into your deal, this is one of those episodes I tend to not enjoy a whole lot. Really? I loved watching this episode with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely, I loved watching this episode for the, doing this the way that we're doing this.

[24:55] I have never enjoyed this episode as much as i have during this run watch through right here however this is not about what brent thinks about this episode this is about what you think about this episode jeff lay it on us pal this might honestly be my favorite episode of stargate sg1 to this point shut up no it's i loved i really there's a thing you say frequently and it's and it's so true that if an episode can make me feel something right not even feel good but feel something it's good as this episode wrapped up i got for reals goosebumps that i like held up if you're listening to the audio on this and i should put it up to my camera like i this episode hit me in so many ways it was this was an exciting episode it was one of the things i love about stargate is how it's episodic and you say this i'm repeating things you've said so many times but they came to fruition here. Oh, what targets he's talking about, right? It's almost like, that's what I just heard you say. Yeah. That's what I just heard you say is, is almost like you watch this before and know what you're doing.

[25:58] Who knew who knew, but no, for real, like this is an episodic show that sometimes pulls things out from past episodes. And this is one of those moments where so many episodes converge children of the gods secrets um need in a way even like so many of these things came together these seeds that were planted and what is now like the the uh the arc you know for the next little little while i in our very first episode of this podcast i said the season one finale is going to be daniel finding and freeing sha ray what an incredible bit of subversion in this episode where one it took him two and a half seasons to just drop this in the middle of season three randomly here you go and honestly i gave a note here i'm a little upset this wasn't a two-parter like i almost wish that they went into more detail and spent some more time on a few things yeah also it was fine like you know it's just that that's just me being overindulgent but took two and a half seasons to get to where i thought we were going to get in one and then they didn't save sharae.

[27:11] They killed her. She dead. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. This whole time, whole time. I've been in the, they're somehow going to find a way to get Aminette out of her and, and Sharae is going to be back or whatever. And whoa, the, the, the guts that it took to, to kill her. And in such a huge way, I, I, I think what was cool about this and just looking back when I watch this again, I'm going to see more of these, but there were little hints I picked up on mostly with Kasuf with Goodfather that show that this wasn't real. There were too many things happening where things just weren't right or someone said or knew a thing that I'm excited to watch this one again just just for that reason. But look, like we got the kid, right, that Apophis and and Ammonet came and had together. He's what's called a Harsesis.

[28:09] Yeah. Yeah, this is important. Let's make sure we talk about this. Make sure you're clear on what this is. Yeah. He's a harcesis child. Yep. So the harcesis is when, so when, when the two hosts come together and reproduce to basically to Tauri or to Unas or what, I don't know. I'm just going to guess the two, whatever it is, they come together and those bodies reproduce and mate all of the genetic memory of those Goa'uld are hidden or are in the memory of that kid. So they know everything. I imagine of not just so think about it. So gold have genetic memory, which means that they have all the memory of all the gold who come before it. Yes. Their mother, their grandmother, so on and so forth all the way back. Right. The Harcisa's child, though, has the genetic memory of both lines. Yeah. Do you know? Do you know in science fiction? Do you know what they call that? They call that the quiz. That's Hatterack.

[29:10] This is the shortening of the way this is where stargate and dune intersect perfectly and at the time we're recording this there's just the the two the two parts of the first dune book that have been put out in in the movies there's rumors they're going to do the next one maybe by the time this comes out the they'll be working on dune messiah which would be awesome, What you see is the birth of the Kwis S. Hatterach. We don't even know, really. I think they said the term, maybe, in the movie. I don't even remember for sure. Okay, so I am not a book reader. I have seen the movies. Is this Kwis S. Hatterach thing that you're talking about, is that the baby? The unborn baby? No. Alia is the baby. She's an abomination. Straight up abomination. In fact, oh my God. Okay. We don't have to go into all that. I was just curious if that's the one.

[29:59] Paul, Paul. Jeff's about to turn this into Dune for the first time. Right we're not trying to go there but i think but but it's it's relevant for all those of you out there i know there are a lot of you.

[30:08] Who have read all the the dune books like there's such a thing here and so alia in the film you see the the baby.

[30:14] And like she's conversing with jessica and she's having some pretty you know grown-up thoughts the gist with alia is her genetic memory and hers is just the female line but her genetic memory burst open and was live while she was in utero so she's in the womb fully aware and has thousands of years of memories to build off of that sounds like the harcesis wow i'll tell you what between alia muadib and leto ii these three people who have a massive amount of genetic memory they mess up the universe in a really big way you could say they save it spoiler alert that's why i tried to keep it really high level a really high level so i'm excited for this i'm excited for this piece so but think about that for a second though okay here you have so the child itself has the entire genetic memory of the gold two two lines of it going all the way back they know all the secrets all the knowledge of the gold who've come before it they themselves do not have a gold right they are not necessarily loyal to the they know and understand that their parents are being used as parasitic hosts yeah how much hatred do you think a harcesis child as it grows up would have for the gold it really makes you how much danger is that to the gold for that to be exactly you know tilk talks about that how like they are hunted voraciously if it happens it's forbidden it's punishable by death and when.

[31:43] Those kids is born they're all hands on deck to go kill it it makes me wonder though like what if instead of that they i think it speaks to the danger because what if they kept them and raised them and tried to recondition them but that's probably not possible with just all of those memories all the knowledge they have they know more like you're gonna have little dude and you're gonna have aminette and little dude knows more than aminette yeah an actual an actual gould it's huge, man. And what I think is cool about it is that it.

[32:17] Daniel, through all of this, tenders his resignation. He's done. And his reason for being done makes sense. I joined the SGC to find my wife, and there she is in the morgue, and we're about to bury her in a absolutely beautiful ritual and ceremony on Abydos.

[32:33] Done. My mission's accomplished. Didn't end the way I wanted it to, but my mission is accomplished. Through these scenes, the visions that he has, the visions he has in his vision, she, time and again, you gotta find the boy. You gotta find the boy. Kasuf comes in. You've got to find the boy. He's getting beat over the head with you've got to find the boy.

[32:52] Why? He's the Harsesis. He is the Quissess Hatterach. He's the shortening of the way. Go find him. Daniel had a why and his why was completed. He has a new why and he's back. I just felt there's a, just as a point to put out there that that's the power of knowing your motivation and knowing your why. He's back. He's all in. He's good. And I think part of that process for him and understanding his motivation is part of how he was able to move to forgiveness with Tilk. That and Charae telling him, forgive Tilk. He did the right thing. You've got to get there. Yeah. You've got to get there to it, for sure. And it's hard to do. We're going to talk about this more, I'm sure, when we get into the Chevron conversation. But, I mean, there were just two impossible situations that we watched in this episode. There's Daniel's spot where I even had to like I had to stop the video and try and wrap my mind around all the things going on for him I mean the physical manifestation of his wife with someone else inside just tried to kill him in a really awful way one of his good friends came in and killed her, saving his life I mean just so much there and then here's Tilk, I can watch my friend die or I can kill his wife.

[34:07] There's no win out of this whole thing but there is uh because that's the power the power of forgiveness really yeah i i just to kind of wrap my thoughts up and i want to leave a lot of time for the chevron conversation because i have stuff for that also um the construct the idea the science fiction idea for this episode is fan freaking tastic forever in a day dude in in in the in the moment between almost dying yep and sha ray getting staff blasted he experiences all of this the the entire forgiveness journey he experiences the the processing of his why he's able to work through all these things so that in that moment tilt just made that impossible that sophie's choice right where he's just like, what horrible thing do I do? He picked one and in seconds after that, he's able to Daniel's able to look at him and say, you did the right thing.

[35:14] That is so powerful. So incredible. Before we get to your conversation, uh, it's time to update our tracking board. We're tracking a number of things. I don't think we got any, uh, we didn't get any for crying out louds and deeds, no deaths. You know, I feel like we've probably missed a few indeeds at this point. Um, we didn't, Daniel did not die. So we cannot count this as a death for Daniel. We didn't get a new boyfriend for Sam. We didn't get any for crying out louds that I heard from Jack.

[35:41] Um but we did get something and we are counting these this isn't a part of our actual tracking sheet that we're doing but we are counting these uh this marks the fourth go old killed by sg1 yes or at least major gold i i i feel like we've done maybe one or two smaller ones but this is the fourth major one there was raw which was from the movie that you haven't seen in 20 years um there was hathor if you remember her unfortunately there was seth who was their child I think. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're like knocking off the family of raw. Right. Right. Um, and now Aminette now they were around for Apophis's death, uh, but they, they weren't really responsible for his death in a direct way. They were responsible for the dignity with his death, but not the death part of it. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, it's, you know, Apophis got what he got because he couldn't figure out SG one anyway. Um, so we're not going to count Apophis on their, uh, to their credit, but we will count these other four uh to his credit aminette uh gone it's a pretty big deal they're i mean you're picking these guys off right yeah you know boom boom um the other thing i want to do is you know we instituted a while ago this kind of goddess god goddess check yeah the myth our mythology piece yeah well this is a mythology check there's no world god goddess to go through.

[36:58] Um i want to go to the funeral scene, And you talk about how beautiful that ceremony was. They go through. You see the scales has the little monkey guy on top. And Daniel places the feather on the scale. And he says, if your heart is if your heart is heavier than the feather, then you still have sin and you can't go be with the God gods.

[37:20] He said the God. He said the God multiple times. And I was like, I don't know if it's just one, but whatever. This is actually a piece of real ancient Egyptian mythology. I have never in my studies, and I have taught ancient Egyptian mythology before in a classroom. So I'm not saying that I am an ancient Egyptian expert. I have simply taught it through curriculum a number of times. You know more than the average bear. Yeah, there you go. There you go. I've never heard of this actually being part of a funeral process. Okay. However, part of the mythology is that when a person dies, they would go to Osiris. Osiris is the god of the underworld. All right. And this, he was kind of in later mythology, whatever. He was the god of the underworld. You would go and where you would have your heart weighed against a feather on a set of scales. And so this whole process is actually fairly true to the myth of what would happen to your soul, When you got down and you had to travel over water and all this sort of stuff, but it would weigh. And if your heart was heavier than the feather, that would mean that it still had sin in the heart. You still had guilt. You still had whatever.

[38:34] And basically there was like an, an, a dog with an alligator head chilling nearby. And he would like snatch you and drag you off to hell. Okay. Wow. Wow. If you were there, otherwise Osiris would let you cross and, and go on to be in, you know, ancient Egyptian heaven. So uh that that was a and like apophis was usually standing there and anubis was there and maybe not apophis but definitely anubis was there is the the the i don't know there's they had so many gods of the underworld or gods of death or gods of like whatever that was yeah but uh but yeah they definitely had that so that was a very real thing i've just never seen it in part of a funeral thing but i i loved that they pulled that in because it was that was pretty pretty solid it really was And I think it's, I don't know. It's just really cool. I think another piece on the mythology thing we won't dive into now because it'll come up in a future episode. But the boy is apparently in Keb. Oh, yeah. Which is a place where Osiris hid from Seth. Yes. But we don't know where Keb is. Daniel's like, it's a myth. It's a myth. It's a myth. And then Sharae's like, I'm going to tell you. But before I do that, I'm going to kiss you because that's awesome. Also, now it's the end of your hallucination. So sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So as far as mythology of SG-1 goes, you've got the two big pieces. Harsesas, bad for the gould, we need to go find this kid. Yeah, good for the tori. And he's hanging out in Keb, but we have no idea where that is. And you said Daniel now has a new mission.

[40:04] For reasons. He's got purpose. All right, let's talk sci-fi messages in Chevron. Oh my gosh, Jeff. Oh gosh, Jeff.

[40:12] I want to take this moment. Um, if you're watching the, the Patreon version of this video, I've already said this, but for those of you on YouTube and for those of you listening to the audio version of this later, I would highly recommend if you, if you have not been following our Babylon five journey, or we're not with us during that time, head over to the season five episode two titled very long night of Londo Malari. That episode really kind of wrapped up a running thread that led through. Who, I mean, Jeff, basically the whole show. So much of it, yeah. And it culminated in that particular episode. So that would be a great episode. I'm going to reference it a little bit here.

[40:52] And forgive me if I just assume people have already heard it, but I'm going to reference that. It's a great episode to go get what I'm going to call the other half of this conversation that I want to have tonight. That's fair. All right, here's the deal. Daniel could not move on. Daniel could not do what he needed to do. Daniel could not embrace his new why, as you so put it. As you so eloquently put it just a second ago, Jeff, while he was withholding forgiveness, he had something against Teal'c. Teal asked for forgiveness and Daniel said no effectively, right? You know, on Babylon five, we looked a lot at the side of what it means when you have something that you have done wrong to be quick, to ask for forgiveness. And I'm not just saying, turn around and say, Oh, I would just, will you forgive me to really feel it, to really repent, to really be sorry, but then to actually say the words, will you forgive me? But here in Stargate SG-1, in this episode, we actually get the discussion of the other side.

[41:50] What does it mean to issue forgiveness, to give forgiveness when somebody has done something to you or that hurts you or something of that nature? Daniel not only couldn't forgive, he wasn't willing to forgive. And I want to back that up. Daniel could forgive. He could. He just wasn't willing to forgive. And I think that's important to say we're all capable of forgiving to say that you can't is not a statement of ability. It's a statement of will. It's a horribly debilitating statement of that's total victimhood. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And I just want to say this because I'm well aware that we're going to have listeners out there who have been hurt wrongfully.

[42:37] Probably the person who hurt them does nothing to deserve forgiveness. They probably, in some cases, that person doesn't even realize they've done anything wrong. That person refuses to seek forgiveness. That person is not sorry for anything that they have done. Regardless of all of that, I'm well aware people have been hurt, and they're holding on to some of that forgiveness. I would also like to say this from the outset, and I want to make this perfectly clear. You are 1,000% within your rights to not forgive. Okay. I'm going to spend the next few minutes encouraging you to forgive, but you are well within your rights not to. And I want to make that perfectly clear. Everything that I'm saying is in spite of your right. You have the right in spite of that. This is how I want to have that talk. Um, and in spite of might not be the right word at the same time. I want to have the also to this right um i'm not saying you're wrong to not forgive all right but i want to talk about a lot of what it does to you and where this episode really had the discussion here jeff so often particularly in the early seasons of of sg1 they would present an issue and then they would never discuss it exactly that's not what happened here they presented an issue and they discussed it for the whole dang episode. Every minute. And we saw the journey. We saw the journey that Daniel got to go on. Okay.

[44:05] Daniel was not willing to forgive. He was holding on to blame, hurt, and anger that all clearly led to him being one thing, and that's bitter. Because kind of like in Star Wars, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to whatever, and then it leads to the dark side.

[44:22] There's a truth to that. There really is a truth to that. Hanging on to this stuff, to anger, to blame. He was looking to place blame. My wife's dead, and it's Teal'c's fault. my wife said and it's oh wait it's my fault because i didn't save her or whatever he said um he's holding on to the hurt it led him to making bad choices it led him to run away because listen daniel was running away let's be really clear he was running away from the sgc he was running and he wasn't just running from the sgc he wasn't just running from his job he was running away from teal i'm sorry let's strike that back he was running away from the hurt and the pain of the memories that would continually be dragged up if he had stayed and had to face Teal'c, the man who shot and killed his wife. But what I would venture to say is let's strike all of that. What he was actually running away from, Jeff, was the fact that the only way he could continue in the SGC, the only way he could continue to see Teal'c every day, the only way he could continue on SG-1 as a part of that team is to issue forgiveness to Teal'c. And I would submit to you that that is, in fact, what he was really running from. He was really running from having to issue forgiveness because he didn't want to forgive. He wanted to hold on to the anger, the hurt, and the bitterness. He didn't feel like he could let it go, even though it was a choice he was making. You know, just as much as I say, and again, go to that very long night of Londo Malari episode.

[45:45] Just as much as I say, we should be quick to turn from our ways and seek forgiveness. We need to be just as quick, Jeff, if not quicker, to freely and openly issue forgiveness.

[45:57] Oh, but Brent, you don't understand what they've done to me. You're right, I probably don't, but I can tell you for your own sake.

[46:03] For your own heart. You will never be free. You will never be able to live your life free by hanging on to whatever unforgiveness you're hanging on to. Back when we did Very Long Night of Londo Malari, Jeff, I got a lot of pushback in the comments and I never responded to these. I got a lot of pushback in the comments from people saying, well, no, no, no. I'll say I'm sorry. I'll say I ask forgiveness. I'm never going to say, will you forgive me? And the reason they gave was because it puts pressure on the other person to forgive and they might not be ready to forgive. And, and that just puts a burden on them. And I'm not going to put a burden on them to which I unashamedly say BS. I agree. Sorry. I don't, that is not going to fly here. I also say this good because you know, what's best for that person is to forgive. It is not good for anyone to hang on to that bitterness. Oh, but they did this. They killed this person. They did this to me that was awful it was horrible in no way shape or form am i diminishing that but your own sake your own heart your own that the heaviness of your heart is not light as a feather when you're hanging on to unforgiveness yeah you cannot pass that scale test when you're hanging on to that hatred i've often heard it said and i find it so appropriate i've said it on i've said it here at buy nerds for a while jeff i've heard you repeat it i'm going to say it again hanging on to bitterness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

[47:31] It is a poison to your soul, people, to your psyche, to your well-being.

[47:37] To your physical health, to your mental health. Asking for forgiveness, the other half of this, is only one half of the way to restoration or to, let's use our favorite word here, redemption. Issuing forgiveness is the other half. Just like in the story where Daniel could not get on with what he needed to do, He couldn't do the thing that he was supposed to do, the thing that he was being commissioned by his wife to go do, the thing that he was destined to do, the thing that he alone was uniquely qualified. Who is more qualified to go seek this Arceus child than Daniel Jackson? For real. Yeah. He is uniquely qualified to do this job. And I very and I dare say he really is the only person who could do it. He could not do that while holding on to bitterness. It took Sharae four-fifths of this episode, if not more, to get Daniel to forgive, That was the whole crux of this episode, because once he was able to forgive, she could give him new orders. She could sell him what's up, tell him where to go, and he was able to get on with the job. But he had to stay in this spot where he could forgive. Again, I go back to Ben Sisko. Ben Sisko at the beginning of Deep Space Nine was holding on to anger and bitterness, and he could not do the thing that he needed to do until he was able to forgive Picard. Not the Borg, not the people that actually murdered his wife. Picard.

[48:56] One person that the embodiment of everything he could not he because he lived here he always lived here lived here it is not linear it is not linear it doesn't make sense it really doesn't this is i'm talking about something here that doesn't make sense it doesn't it that i hope that this is hard for people because it is something that we all need to hear but i also hope that this is freeing for people to hear and i'm sorry i don't mean to issue a sermon here jeff i'm really not trying to do that. You, like I say, you have the absolute right not to forgive. You can choose that. You can choose that. But I'm telling you, if you make that choice, you are cutting yourself off from being able to live your own best life, from being able to live your fullest life. You will never be at peace with yourself if you choose to hang on to bitterness and not forgive, which is your right. But not only are you going to be trapped in that muck and the mire, the rest of the world, those around you, your family, your friends, the people that you would impact are going to be missing your impact. The thing that you uniquely are qualified to do in their life, the thing that you are the only one who could actually make happen, that is then going to be taken away from other people. It's not your responsibility to give that to them.

[50:08] I'm just saying that is going to be a natural byproduct of that. You know, in Babylon five, I'll tell you this, Jakar could not have become the prophet that he became. Jakar could not have fully and truly written the book of jacar unless in very long night of londo malari he forgave and i believe wasn't it later on jeff several episodes later that he actually was able to say like i forgive you.

[50:29] Like, yeah. And then basically pledged himself to Londo at that point. He did. But, you know, there, I remember specifically in that, in that moment, there was there and it was, I loved what the episode was doing. It just didn't do it using the words that I wanted to use.

[50:42] But Londo looks at Jakar and says, I'm sorry. And, and Jakar kind of nodded. And the implication there was like, okay, I forgive you. Like I'm going on the implication of that, right? If Jakar wasn't able to do that, he could not have become the person that he eventually became. Daniel could not have gone forward from this episode. He would have been out of the show if he could not have forgiven as a character. I'll wrap this up by saying this. I want to plead with everyone out there listening to the sound of our voices. If there is something you're holding on to do the work, it is not easy to forgive. It's not, but do the work to lead to forgiveness and issue that forgiveness. And here's the really cool thing. you don't need the other person to seek forgiveness in order for you to issue forgiveness those are two mutually exclusive independent things jeff i know you have some things to say but i'm just going to go ahead and issue this is a seven chevron i'd jeff i'd even get this because this one this one doesn't even exist in the realm of humanity this goes to the soul to the person this is an eight chevron episode heck yes this takes us to asgard takes us that far Oh, gosh. Right? So I wanted to bring to this a lot. This is some super personal stuff. I've been doing a lot of forgiveness work myself.

[52:02] At the time of recording this a couple months ago, I had a person do a really, really awful, horrible, hurtful thing to me that was awful and bad. And to your point, Brent, about like when you can't forgive, the people around you are affected and don't get the best in you. You saw it firsthand many times. Like we, we would come here to record or we wouldn't because of it. And I'm like, Hey, I have this like raw that I got to get off my chest before we can go and do this thing. And thank you for being so willing to take all that, all of that from me as we were moving forward with it. But forgiveness, what I've learned on my journey is that forgiveness actually doesn't have, like what you're saying, doesn't have to have anything to do with the other person. In my case, forgiveness, it's a me thing. In Daniel's case, it's a Daniel thing. It's not about telling Tilk that you forgive him. Hey, that's great. Tilk probably, I mean, you saw it in that moment, right? And he said, you did the right thing. He's like, okay, all right, cool, good.

[53:06] But it's you, right? Like in my case, the perpetrator against things, they're living a high life. They're doing great, whatever. You know, I'm the one over here waking up at 418 every morning with my mind spinning out of control. I'm the one blowing off commitments and things like that because I have this thing in me. So forgiveness is a you thing, right? And I think when you accept that, it makes it a little bit easier because forgiveness is not condoning what happened. It's not accepting what happened, and it's not saying that it's okay for it to happen in the future. I heard a great quote from someone in a relationship kind of context around forgiveness. They said that a great way to approach it is to say to the person, either to their face or in your own mind as you're working on it, I can see that what you were doing worked for you at the time, but it never, ever worked for me. It's not saying they were doing the best they could. It's saying that in that moment, it worked for them. Didn't work for you. So you're not accepting anything. It took me from the time of what happened to me to the time I decided to actually dedicate myself to forgiveness. It took me, it took 92 days, 92 days for me to get there.

[54:19] And that was a while ago. I'm still working on it. But I want to really quickly share what I've developed as a four-step process to forgive us. Go back to the long night of Londo Malari. Go back to passing through Gethsemane on our Babylon 5 thing. We talk about the steps of an apology and things like that. I've come up with, and this is the first time I've shared these, but four steps to forgiving that I'm personally working through. Step one is expressing the hurt and being heard.

[54:47] Now, being heard doesn't mean that person has to hear you. You need to hear you. I can tell you what, when I was talking to that person who wasn't in front of me, it was just, you know, just talking to the thought of them, the spirit of them, there's some stuff that came out that needed to come out. And it was uncontrollable, this vomit of emotion. And it felt pretty awesome after those things were said. And I heard them said. So do that work. Step two is to release the control.

[55:15] Control over how the other person is going to react or respond. You don't have any control. They're going to, whatever they're going to do. So accept that step three is taking accountability. I'm sorry. Step three is step three is understanding that they will be held accountable and we'll have to take accountability. The thing about that though, is you may not ever see that accountability. You may not know what that accountability is. It may not happen in the way, the time, or the place that you wish it would, but in some time and place, depending on your belief system, that accountability will be there. And step four is to let go. Once you have done that work, you can actually let go and forgive. And that's not saying it's okay. That's stopping drinking the poison is what that's doing. That's all it is. And I'll tell you, I'm not there all the way. I still have work to do, but just doing the work I have done, oh my God, it feels incredible, incredible. And it feels empowering to be really honest. Like, I feel like I have agency again, you know, it's hard. It takes so much strength to.

[56:20] To forgive, but to do it, you have to completely give, you know, you have to, what is it? Bend like the reed, you know, be strong, but bend like the reed and let it, let it go. I couldn't, I could not possibly agree more. Uh, this is an eight Chevron episode. This was incredible.

[56:37] Um, I'm eager to get to the next, uh, next part of our, uh, discussion here. If I may, Jeff, um, it has been incredible to be alongside you in this journey over, frankly what's been a very long time it has been a lot longer than 92 days yes uh although that work has has been happening and and you know what you say there is fantastic it is an ongoing process but what you have done and and if i'm wrong and i'm reading this wrong please feel free to correct me you made a choice to forgive now you're doing the work to fully realize that but the thing is you made the choice yeah that's exactly what that's the forgiveness is you made the choice and now you still have the work to do and there's more work to do but that's where it starts it's not you do the work and now you make the choice you make the choice i'm going to forgive i do forgive now we're going to work out what that actually looks like i couldn't do the work until i made that i tried doing the work because i i've been doing a lot of work for a long time on things And I tried putting that cart in front of the horse. It didn't work. And even making the choice wasn't this like binary moment. It took me some time to even truly make the choice.

[57:52] And I think part of it was understanding and accepting the thing, as I said, that forgiveness is not, but also accepting that forgiveness is not the end of the story. There are still going to be things that get activated for you. There's, oh, there's my little thumbs up. Thank you. Now you know I'm using a Mac. But there's still going to be the things that activate you. There's still going to be times you get angry. There's still going to be times that you don't feel great about a thing. Forgiveness is not gone, right? It's still there. But as you do that work, the work of forgiveness, when you do the work to make the choice and you make the choice and you do the work, those times and moments are fine. They're going to happen. They're going to happen and you're going to be okay.

[58:31] Yeah. And, you know, a lot of times forgiveness is a choice you wake up and you have to make every day. Every day. And sometimes multiple times a day. Yeah. Yeah. But when you do that, you can, you can move forward. You can. And Jeff, I will tell you, you have been better as of late. Yeah. You know, and I know you're still not where you want to be or where you need to be. But frankly, who is, you know, I'll give one one more piece. And this is this is Brent's own testimony, if that's the right word. Here's the deal. I tend to be a person who is very quick to forgive. It is not immediate for me. OK, nobody makes me angrier than my wife and my kids.

[59:16] OK, like they just they push those. but they can, they can, they can just really, they don't write where to go all the time. You know what I mean? Um, and there are times when things happen that, uh, my wife is a person who was super quick. She wants to resolve conflict like right now. And so if something happens, sometimes I send my kid to the room, to his room, cause I need space for a moment. Not that I'm going to ground him. Not that he's in trouble. Not that X, Y, Z. I need space for a moment to calm down. You know what I mean? Like, like I've got, but I also am quick to get there. You know, it just, I just need to breathe. Let me calm down and come back. My kid has never done anything to me that is detrimental. Okay. There are people out there who have really solid detrimental things that have happened. You, for example, and I might go and put your business out there, but anyway, um, it may take some time, a bit of time, but the quicker you can get there. Oh, this is what I was gonna say. The only reason and what generally in those few moments, what goes through my head is the only reason why I can come to forgiveness is because I have been forgiven.

[1:00:28] Jeff, I was not a good dude. There was a time in my life I've often said I am not a person who believes that people don't change. I believe people change. I know people change because I have changed. Yeah. And people have to change because otherwise I have not changed. And I'm still the same crappy, dirty, awful, ugly human being that I once was. And I'm not that anymore. So I know people change. You know, I have been forgiven a lot, which helps me to forgive a lot. And usually that's where I go to is I know my own junk. And remembering that helps me to forgive others. It just does. That's my own thing. Again, that's Brent's own testimony. Eight chevrons. I feel like we've driven this into the ground. I would say this. I am not a certified counselor. I've had some counseling classes. I'm not a certified counselor, but I have made this offer before, and I will make this offer again. Sometimes people need a stranger to talk to. They need somebody who's not in their life, somebody who's not in their circle, somebody they're not going to run into at the grocery store. If I can be that for you, my email and my DMs are open. At Brent Allen Live across all the social medias.

[1:01:38] You know, hit us up, shoot us an email over at our, at our, our webpage by nerds.com. I think is what we're at. Jeff, is that right? Yep. By nerds.com. You can click an email form, shoot us an email. I would, if, if I can serve you in that way, guys, I make that offer to everybody. I'm happy to not as a counselor, but just to be a voice, to be an ear, to just be somebody you can talk to if you want. It's there. But I beg you all to forgive. All of that, Jeff.

[1:02:09] Very huge Christmas bow. I think I know where this next part is going. Probably. I really almost just feel silly in going through it, but it is the exercise of the moment. I rate you rank. That's how this show works. Jeff, we are doing our definitive 100% completely accurate ranking of season three of Stargate SG-1. Our current ranking sits... At number one is fair game jeff where would you like to place this episode forever yeah uh forever in a day is our new number one if you didn't know that from the second we came out of the episode you haven't been paying attention i have to tell you jeff no way shape or form what i've put that at number one coming into this episode today wow that's it's incredible i know i think one of my favorite things about this project we're doing are the times you can share that or you're like I've seen this episode 800,000 and 47 times and whatever, but this lens, this experience is whatever is completely changed it for me. I just love hearing that. I would currently place it, place this at number six between legacy and dead man's switch. Okay. But I would also have placed rules of engagement higher and yeah, that's probably about it. Maybe point of view possibly.

[1:03:23] Anyway, that's what, that's just Brent. This is what we've done. Totally fair. I got to, scroll through my notes here right hold on where was i well jeff that is gonna do it here for forever in a day we're gonna wrap that episode it's time to start looking towards the next one man i i gotta tell you this is one of those i almost feel sorry for the next episode oh no how right no how the heck do you follow this up yeah you know and and for whatever people think i mean jeff as you said if an episode can make you feel i don't care i don't i don't care if it's the muta doll fighting somebody if it makes you feel oh man uh but we're gonna we're gonna watch it and we're gonna see what it can do it's an episode called past and present uh i will give you a hint.

[1:04:12] This is a sequel episode. This is the only thing I'm going to tell you. This is a seat. We have, we had, we had an episode earlier in our run of SG one. I'm not going to tell you where this is the sequel to that episode. That's the only thing I'm going to tell you. What comes to mind and you'll be able to tell what other TV I've been watching when I say it is in the title of it. That brings me to past, past and present, past and present. Yeah past and present it conjures up for me second season episode deep space nine past prologue which i just watched that was first season episode wasn't it wasn't like the second episode yes right after emissary it was the third episode yeah because there was uh emissary babble and then uh and then this one why did i think it was second season i don't know either way just watched it and uh i think katherine powers wrote it oh yeah i think yeah she did yeah she yeah she wrote.

[1:05:04] Catherine Powers, our lady who brought us Emancipation. And Brief Candle. And Thor's Hammer. I think this is going to be a sequel to Secrets. Secrets is the one where we kind of had the was it Secrets? The underground. The people tracking Jack through Washington, D.C. And kind of looking at that whole anti... It's where we met Jacob. For the first time. So I think it's going to be that. And we're going to start getting some look at some terrorist, more like terrorist sort of things. And I'll just follow the past prologue thing. There's going to be someone involved in that whole thing that comes to the SGC, not in terms of like, I'm going to get you, but in terms of like, I need to, I need to tell you what's going on. And like almost I can pass prologue there. He came looking for asylum. They're not going to do that in this one. It's going to come looking for like, look, I want to defect almost. I want to come to your side and tell you all this stuff. Start telling you this stuff that's going on. You're a good guesser, Jeff. Yeah, sure. Sure. I just wanted a chance to talk about Deep Space Nine.

[1:06:12] You know, that's not a bad thing to try to talk about. True. Hey, listen, that's going to do it for us here on this week of SG1 for the first time. We'll find out if Jeff is right or wrong next week. You could watch the episode before you come here, but, or you could go to YouTube and watch the episode along with us. Hey, listen, if you don't do that, don't worry. You can catch the audio podcast wherever you get your podcast. Please don't forget. However you consume the show, wherever it is, don't forget to subscribe, to click, hit a bell icon, hit like, leave us a rating and review. Those are super important in whatever situation comments. leave us comments we love to respond to those please be sure to do that and more importantly than anything else share the show share the podcast share the youtube channel share it with somebody that you know that loves stargate su1 or somebody who like my friend jeff over there needs to fall in love with this incredible series for the very first time so until next time folks we're gonna get out of here we will see yes jeff i actually didn't come up with an ending for this one because i was so wrapped up in the episode brett this was a great one i really enjoyed it for crying out loud.

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