Shades of Grey

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Shades of Grey - Season 3, Episode 18

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[0:00] Music.

[0:14] Welcome to Stargate SG-1 for the first time. Still not a Star Trek podcast. My name is Jeff Akin and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time. And I'm Brent Allen, and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the 47th time. But for the first time, I am looking for what Stargate is trying to teach us. You know, those lessons that sci-fi does so well, where they hold up a mirror to society, they give us hope that things can be better in the future, or just tell us how to be better human beings to one another. Maybe we'll get some of that as we watch the 18th, 18th episode. Brett, we're heading down the homestretch of season three right now. Already.

[0:57] We're watching Shades of Grey this week. You gave me the hint that this one is going to have a returning character in it. And so I really had no idea what this was going to be about. So my prediction literally is this will be the return of the Broca Divide people, like Tupelo and the Minoan people, and there'll be something Shades of Grey-ish that they do. Do i don't remember the exact word that i used last time but i definitely said that this this would feature a return that you're not expecting something like that this will feature a return that you're not expecting i'm certainly not expecting to see tuplo so that's that's my guess that's my you are so uh yeah as you mentioned this is the 18th episode of season three shades of gray original air date february 11th year 2000 in the year 2000 well what we know is is as SG1 survived Y2K. We're all grateful for that, and here we go. This episode is written by Jonathan Glasner, directed by Martin Wood. Oh, wow. A couple notes on this, specifically with Jonathan Glasner. This is the final episode of SG1 that he will pen. Now, Jonathan Glasner is notable because he is... Executive producer. Co-creator of the show. Oh, okay. With Brad Wright. So he's been around.

[2:12] Yeah, he's kind of a big deal. He's a guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, actually turns out here at the end of the season, he is going to step back from his role as executive producer. Of course, he'll always be co-creator, but he will step back from his role as executive producer. He's going to go on and start working on another show called Invisible Man. I don't remember Invisible Man. No, because it completely failed and didn't do anything. So as the guy said at the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, he chose Invisible.

[2:41] Of course, Glasner, as most people do when they're at this level, he will continue on as a creative consultant or executive consultant for the entire run of SG1, which I think just basically means we can call you up when we need an idea. But for the most part, he's just sort of out of it. But this will be his final episode, one that he has written. This episode is also directed by Martin Wood. We'll keep an eye out. So if you remember about Martin Wood, I gave you something fun that he likes to do in his episodes, which is? He likes to show up have a cameo nope that's that's what he does like to show up and have a cameo uh peter deluise is like that too but he does something different with his cameos he has a big wrench oh that's right a big huge honking wrench usually he's with sergeant seiler who is the maintenance guy there stunt coordinator and the stunt coordinator for the show um i i don't know where that's we're getting close to where that starts okay so we'll keep an eye out I'm not sure if it's this episode or maybe the next or the next, but we're really, really close to Martin Wood to start to use these things where it's going to become a fun thing to check in and see if we can't find. So we'll keep an eye out for that. By the way, I don't think I've ever mentioned he actually has dubbed that as a character. Big Wrench Guy? Yeah, the Big Wrench Guy. Really? That character's name is, because it's a military installation, his name is Major Wood.

[4:02] Yeah. Yep. Well done. Yep. Well done. yes uh well with that jeff it is time for us to go watch this episode hey listen if you guys are out there joining us for the very first time first of all welcome you're amazing we love you you're awesome we love everybody that comes and joins us here at stargate sg1 for the first time here at the buy nerds network are we a network jeff sure a network of two whatever the umbrella of stuff that we got going on here uh the way this works is jeff and i are going to go watch this episode right now we have not watched this episode prior and came in with a bunch of notes ready to go nope we're gonna do it right now if you're hanging out with us on youtube hang out because you're gonna catch the reaction jeff and i're gonna watch it you'll see the reaction to this episode, hey listen if you want to get the full unedited version of that reaction head over to patreon.com where you can find that plus all the other stuff that jeff and i have going on there's a lot, happening over there but you can do that at patreon.com slash Bye, nerds. Let's go ahead and turn some lights on these shades of gray. Chevron 7 locked.

[5:18] Music.

[5:36] All right, Jeff. Well, you and I have just watched Shades of Gray. What a roller coaster this was a particularly fun one for me who knew exactly where this episode was going the entire time this episode by the way as you might imagine has a really high rewatch value once you know what's going on you go back and see it through the entire thread of the entire show you were guessing the entire time you you did i don't know at what point you actually figured out what was happening if it was kept all the way to the end or if you had it but you had lots of guesses throughout the course that i want to encourage if you're just listening to the audio version of this head over to our youtube page and and check out the the reaction to this because that was a good one with jeff jeff take us through your first watch of shades of gray well i want to start by doing my best hammond impression which will not be good uh because i don't do impressions well but uh i'd like to thank the academy for this nomination and this holy like.

[6:44] So starting at the end they walk through the stargate right all the the uh sgr i'll call them the stargate rogue they walk through and they're getting arrested and they're in the sgc and immediately i was just like oh god it was all a setup this is dumb i'm disappointed and actually it's pretty brilliant and this was a great way of solving a problem that they knew was there and couldn't really articulate like I went in that moment like I had so many emotions that happened but in my head the whole time I was just like is this a thing Jack did on his own, there's no way Hammond was legit pissed like he was angry yeah and he can't even pronounce Gould so it's like yeah.

[7:31] I can't even do the accent. I can't do it. But it's just like he was legit mad. So is this a thing he wanted to go on? No. My God. Hammond's in on it. The Tolan were in on it. Like all these people were in on it. And it's like kind of awesome. Like really cool. Like you said, I had so many theories. But from go, I'm like, this isn't Jack. This doesn't make sense. This is a zero to 60 moment where, yeah, he's frustrated.

[8:01] Everybody's frustrated that they're having to go the slow way and they're getting told no all the time to go from that to yelling at general hammond yelling at the tolling ambassador lady like wow it didn't check out for me and i had a hard time what did i say i said at one point there's like it's one of two things or something like either someone else has control of him like mind control or clone control or he's working for somebody else well so i gave you option three because you said it's either there's an alien or he's working for somebody else and my option three was he really feels this way or option four yeah which is what it kind of turned out which is all set up actually i'll give you what i wrote down here as actually option four was action four is uh jonathan glasner before writing this episode just watched the star trek voyager episode investigations where Tom Paris left the ship in order to suss out the mole and pretended to be really pissy at everybody. Good call. Because it's the same plot. It's like the third or fourth episode in a row that's a direct lift from Voyager or TNG. I ain't going to lie. Next week's is as well. It is as well.

[9:14] The stuff works. You know, you go with it. Listen, here's the thing. And we're going to catch a lot of flack because we always compare stuff to Star Trek. Look it's not that everybody's doing stuff like star trek it's this is how sci-fi is done we've watched enough sci-fi this is what happens in sci-fi as a as a as a as a genre we can pick it out because it's just just how it goes you know for us it happens to be star trek that we line it up to but this episode's in a bunch of other franchises as well, I, and other, other little clues, like you said, this is going to be, has a great rewatch value. Cause there's a handful of things that I wrote down is like, ah, this doesn't, uh, this doesn't make sense. One of them was, uh, Mayborn starts telling them kind of at a really high level what they're doing. You know, just, you know, Hey, I think it's ridiculous that we have to do this. Also, Jack says, well, whatever you're doing, it's gotta be really illegal. Like he's concerned. Isn't the thing you just did also illy? Like, you're literally calling him out for the thing that you did.

[10:20] That doesn't line up. Well, of course it doesn't because he wasn't like he wasn't really in it. I was heartbroken. I was so sad.

[10:30] My heart that is three sizes too small apparently broke and shattered a little bit when he's like, I want to retire on Adora. I want to go see Lara. I've gotten and yeah and it's like I was like how what a great callback and I literally thought because Mayborn is all you you're either in or you're going to disappear once I share this and he's like well I'm in and so I'm like oh he's not in he wants to go to Adora with his with his love because he wants to be with her also to run away from Mayborn just to get away and do how great is oh no that would be that would if if for whatever reason Richard Dean Anderson was leaving the show that's the way to do it that is his the what jms would call is the trap door exactly that would be his trap door to be able to go out and so come back for guest spots if ever needed or wanted you know just yeah because that relationship was so good and so pure it's great they called it back though you know i mean it's there's hope right it's like there's hope they're not they're at least not pretending like that episode never happened yeah like so and that's and i'll tell you what, that is my fear in this episode, because what Jack had to do to make this right, he had to big time, Sam, like he wasn't mean to her, but he was way out of character and harsh. You know, he, he did hurt her. He was straight up mean to Daniel. Yeah. I mean, he all of it told Daniel, I don't like you. I never liked you and I don't care.

[12:00] Oof that is hard but what do you make with that whole last scene where the music started getting all you know whimsical again and that's where i'm like it's the end of star trek again where you got spock mccoy and kirk that's the original series end of star trek yeah every episode it gets all heavy and then haha a little light music and a joke to to go off i don't want that for this i want there to be a rift at least between daniel and jack daniel has to be hurt by this and it doesn't need to be an ongoing like will they won't day blah blah blah thing but like they need to work through this somehow as we're making all of our callbacks let's not stop this can't be sheridan and garibaldi we're just all of a sudden they're fine like there's a lot of repair work to be to be done i think um i love though that like now because we got and i i was trying to recall it during the episode i still can't but there was the episode where this group got introduced reduced.

[12:56] Right. And so they had that other, the other Stargate that was down in the, in the, in the ice cubes from solitudes from solitudes where we found it. It's like, I can remember that episode, but I can't remember this other one, but they had that Stargate. They moved to the air base in Utah. There was the shootout. They belly flopped into the Stargate and all that. And I'm like, Oh gosh, there's this whole other group. They're back. Right. And Mayborn running the crew. They're out literally doing stuff falling apart. No. Now the Asgard kind of took all their stuff again on the list of like people to not mess with i feel like the asgard are at the top they're kind of up there yeah yeah not a good choice whatsoever and it's interesting too we talked a little bit during the episode mayborn's crew follow a military structure they have rank they you know have sort of uniforms or whatever but they generally like dressed like pirates. The, the one, uh, you know, Starbuck who was in there could have been Sam Carter, like Carter beat her out for the job. So it's like, there's definitely this military component. Also, are they military? Like he never reinstated Jack, but they were still calling him Colonel. And.

[14:07] I don't know, probably doesn't matter in any way. It's just, I was very curious about like, how's this thing even set up? Do you want me to tell you what it is? Do we find out later? Kinda. You might've already found out. I don't know if they've said the word yet. Like there's a name for this organization. Okay. Yeah, I know. Um, I don't know if this is a real life organization that we have in the real world, or if this is completely made up for the show. This is just my lack of military knowledge, but the organization that Mayborn is in command of or that he works for is something called the NID. Yeah. And basically they are an oversight committee. I think they're supposed to be a civilian oversight committee over all these top secret programs. They're not supposed to interfere with how the programs work, but they're an oversight.

[14:54] Mayborn kind of leads like a rogue element of the NID, which is how they kind of, they know everything that's happening and they're kind of trying to take over a little bit more, but that's technically they're under the NID. And in Stargate, Mayborn works at the NID. And we've had a couple of the – NID has had a couple of people show up who are like the – Mayborn is just the one that has stuck around the longest. So essentially there are people that work for the NID, but like this is their extracurricular. Or Mayborn says they're assigned to this. They work in the Yeoman shack doing whatever. Actually, they're on PX358 going and stealing stuff. Yeah, I mean this is like what's up on the 36th floor at the NID. Yeah. Nobody asks. There it is. Section 36. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. If it gives you any hope, though, about the whole, again, to go back to the layer thing, how many episodes was it between solitudes when we first found out about the second gate and when you saw this team using that and jumping through it? That's a big jump. How many episodes has it been since we last saw them jump through the episode? And now they turn up again here in this episode. Yeah. Last we got Lara last week. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, when we last saw these guys jumping into the Stargate, belly flopping into the Stargate. Oh. How many episodes from then to this one where those people turn back up in the show? That was a lot.

[16:14] So, you know, if we don't get Lair next week or in two more weeks or even for the rest of the season, there is always hope that it could come back around. Yeah, there's stuff that's waited a season and a half. This is Stargate. This is what I love about Stargate.

[16:29] It's all still on the board. when did you expect to see the tollens again how long between we'd seen them yeah they just coming right back when was last time we actually saw the asgard like it's been they don't just forget what happened which they put all the pieces down they stay on the board they may never move again but they stay there the whole time it's it's really the perfect hybrid between serialized shows and episodic shows it really is clearly stargate is an episodic series but what happens from week to week matters and affects or at least potentially affects future episodes yeah it's there it's a possibility like i said it's on the board and speaking of boards we need to update our tracking board yes let's do that we got an indeed we got an indeed yes we can definitely add that to the list that's a really good one i think it might actually be the one that i use in our patreon ad for the audio you think so this i think it might be the same indeed they all kind of sound the same because he is good he's kind of a pro okay this is absolutely impossible jeff we have missed something according to our tracking sheet this is only the third time tilk has said indeed that is impossible let's go back and watch all the other episodes again just to see i'm down most of them i do know that and i'm very well aware that tilks and deeds they do start ramping up they're not it hasn't quite become the catchphrase yet but he's had to have said it more than i'm pretty sure.

[17:56] I feel like we've talked about him saying it more. Maybe we just didn't put it in the... See, now I feel like I can count all these things again. Uh-huh. Because we're only at 19 for Crying Out Louds. Yeah, which is a lot. Also, it's not.

[18:09] Right. Right. We have six Daniel deaths, though. That seems like a lot. We have three Sam boyfriends. Because this is like episode 60. This is episode 60 of the series. Already on 60. Yeah. So it's like one every 10 episodes for the Daniel deaths. That's it. It's pretty wild. He dies at least twice a season, Jeff. Well, speaking of dying, I am dying to find out what sci-fi messages you pulled out of this one.

[18:37] Oof. What do you got? Oh, Jeff. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. Okay, first of all, anytime we can take an episode and go, this was that episode of Star Trek, which is a series which is known for intentionally doing its whole messages thing. Good chance we're going to pull a message out of it. I asked you a question earlier in the show. Does Jack have a point? If we need the tech to protect us from an existential threat, and those guys over there have that, and they're holding out on us for something that not just could but would provide us with real protection.

[19:13] Do we not have the God-given right of self-preservation to do what it takes to protect ourselves? Yourselves you're keeping one big qualifier out though that you asked ethics notwithstanding because if you take ethics out of the situation yeah every person for themselves like just get what you want it's anarchy strongest survives take it all but is that how humanity lives also i disagree it's an existential threat because we do have the protection of the protected worlds treaty with the asgard which isn't a guarantee but it's definitely something okay so that then becomes probably the question of debate now i will tell you in this idea my mind goes to things in real world history like oh manifest destiny oh yeah hey that's going to be ours over there we we actually are the dominant creature so you people get out of this land that we're just going to decide we're taking now sorry pack up your shit and go we're taking it now like not cool guys no not not a proud moment in my own country's history it's not turned out.

[20:22] Well for a lot of people you know and i'm not here to litigate it i'm not here to provide answers or anything like that i'm just calling it out for what it is and it was it was rather a disgusting moment when we're like yeah we need it and we're just going to take it and we don't care what you say like this is this is bad this is something that has happened in history a lot i don't know i don't know world history of individual regions enough to know.

[20:49] When this has happened throughout history in other countries although i'm sure it has happened repletely through other countries.

[20:55] And I'm talking more than just, hey, we're going to go to war and we're going to take your land. I'm talking just a full on. Well, a perfect example. I'm out here in Oregon. A bunch of the settlements that happened here and what led to the Oregon Trail was the government was like, hey, for free, you can have this huge chunk of land. You just have to come out and clear all the indigenous people out of it. And however you do, that's up to you. But they need to be cleared out and then you can keep the land. That was a thing that happened a lot. And that's that's uh uh but we're just gonna like even even despite our agreements that you can stay there and we'll stay here we're gonna break that just because we now want the land um uh what do we call it the the phrase uh imminent domain yeah where they could just come by and like take your house because we got to build a road here now sorry uh uh but i also think of of episodes even within stargate like spirits remember they found the trinium that new metal yeah like well how are we gonna well they're not gonna give it to us okay well listen there are migrating people will wait till they go over there during the winter and we'll just come in and take it while they're gone. You don't have the right to do that. That's, that's, it's not yours. These are the kinds of things that, Where those times when we violate our principles and our morals that we say that we hold to these ethics, even for something, Jeff, as basic as self-preservation, this is where we lose ourselves. Honestly, I'd say at that point, you don't have the right to preserve yourself. Wow. If you're going to lose that. That's a pretty harsh statement.

[22:22] But this is, God, Jeff, we are way over on our Star Trek quota for this episode. And our Babylon 5 quota. I'm going to keep this going. I'm going to keep this going. This is the Corbett Knight maneuver. When Captain Kirk says, we now have a – and in that specific thing, just to catch people up, their ship has been rocked by another ship, right? Like absolutely – talking about an existential threat. They have rocked the Enterprise. Something happens where the other ship is disabled and bad stuff is about to happen over there. The Enterprise has a chance. Their mission is to seek out and find new alien life. Well, that's right over there. And Captain Kirk says to the bridge, this is a chance to demonstrate what our high sounding words mean.

[23:12] Here's the thing. In this story. Now, this doesn't necessarily always work out in life. In this story, it's actually by sticking to those high sounding words, following those morals and those ethics that we ultimately acquire those things. Because what does Jack say? We don't need their stuff. We need them. By sticking to this, we show them that they can trust us and then we can depend on them and we're going to be fine. This is how we are going to protect ourselves is by not losing ourselves. Because if you lose yourself, then maybe you're really not worth protecting. We saw that with Jack in 100 days when, hey, he's lost. We don't know what's going on. The Tolan were like, we'll help. We got you. It's going to take us some time, but we got you. Because we literally have to fly across space and don't have slipstream technology yet. Anyway, here's the thing, Jeff. I can hear detractors out there. I can hear the keyboard clackers out there who are going to say the same thing that Jack said. And you're perfectly within your right to have this opinion. I'd rather be a thief and alive than dead with a clear conscience.

[24:13] Honestly, though, I'm not that way. Agreed. And I disagree with you. If we go out, but we've stuck to who we are, then we go out. It happens. Head held high. We did everything we could, and we stayed true to who we are. If that's what happens, then that's what happens. But I don't think it will. I think the lady from the Tolan was right. And I think she proved she proved this. The truth is, if you go through and you acquire that technology, even for self-preservation, Jeff, we humanity will eventually use it for more than just self-preservation. We're going to use it for domination. We saw that immediately, instantly in the episode in full force. Hey can you imagine all the cool stuff we could do with this black ops back on our thick yeah we can, oh we're just as she said what are you going to use this for i don't know well you know just just in case the gold come and how long before you turn that on that country over there and that country over there i think there's another side to this though jeff yeah and it's jack's side and something you may not realize through the course of this uh but i need you to go back a couple weeks ago when we watched pretense i need you to go back when jack first met the tolens Jack is legitimately miffed at the fact that the Tolens won't share tech. He is. It's okay. It's okay to be frustrated.

[25:34] It's not okay to lose who you are. And I just, like I say, give permission to be frustrated, something like that. But I could be frustrated that I can't move into that land over there that is actually flowing with milk and honey that I need to go expand some stuff. But that's not for me. If I need to move in that land, then we go talk to those people. We negotiate. We do what we need to do on that level. We don't just go say, okay, get off now. We're coming in anyway. We can be better. So, Jeff, we take this, all of those words, all of those high-sounding words, let's throw it up against our litmus test. Does this hold up a mirror to society? Heck yeah, because this shows us exactly how we are. Called Right on the Carpet by Tolan Lady. Absolutely. Does this give us hope that we can be better in the future? Yeah, I think so. Hey, if you stick to these high-sounding words, if you go with this, there are friends out there that are going to help us and will be with us. You have regained our trust she says the asgard and the tolan both came to us the knox were about ready they called the knox were about ready to sever relations with us as well now we're keeping them as friends it is hope that things can be better in the future and finally does it just teach us how to be better human beings to one another yeah i think so like it does don't take what don't don't take this stuff yeah like that alone and is this intentional is there an intentional aspect of this.

[26:59] Yeah. The point of the episode. I mean, Jeff, I would be hard-pressed to give this anything less than seven full chevrons, all locked in. As the episode was going, I was just like, it's all a question of how to package what's going on, because this is... Clearly the point and even as I thought Jack was legitimately not doing cool stuff, that message was still there. It wasn't like he had to wait till the end for it. We were talking about it during the opening credits and it played it out all the way for us. You know what I love about this though, Jeff, is this wasn't what we've gotten so often with Star Trek. I'm sorry, with Stargate where they present a topic and then they just never discuss it. They don't really come back up to it. They don't give you. No, no, no. No, they presented this topic in the cold open. They stayed with it through the entire show. They showed you both sides of it. They talked about it. They discussed it. They looked all the way around. Full Shevon Severance, everything locked in. Jeff, that is my rating.

[27:58] You, my friend, however, get to rank this episode in our 100% completely accurate and definitive ranking of season three of Stargate S21. Top five episodes. I'm going to go from there. I've got a feeling this is going to go high. I maybe top five. I don't know. I don't know. We've got a pretty solid top 10, I think. But Jeff, the top five as it sits right now, Joel and our memories in the devil, you know, one episode put in sharing the number one spot forever in a day coming in at number two. That's the one with Char Ray. Fair game is coming in at number three pretense episode. We just saw a couple weeks ago coming in at number four and foothold number five. Jeff, where are you placing shades of gray? Ray, I'm having a really tough time deciding if this cracks the top five or not. I really want it to, but I'm looking at that top five and struggling a lot. I'm not going to tell you which way I would do it, but I'm telling you it's not a question for me. Okay. Okay. For me, I I've answered the question by going back and looking at some of my notes. And so by one, I'm already questioning it.

[29:03] Here's the thing that's going to make this an unfair ranking i don't think this episode is can be truly appreciated until you watch it the second time okay because i think i can i can appreciate the journey it took me on and all the questions that pose and everything but i think the i was going to say the brilliance but i'll withhold that and say you know the the this the the approach to it i think isn't really appreciated until the second time you watch it you know kind of what's happening so i'm going to put an asterisk i'm literally going to put an asterisk on the rating and i'll revisit this when we record i will watch this again and i'll revisit this one so today right now this is going to drop by one outside of the top five is the new number six, hey jeff mute me for just a second, Yeah, Jeff's an idiot, and this should absolutely be in the top. This should be like a top three episode just because of the enormity of what this episode is actually saying. It's so good. It's so good. I may not want to watch this episode every single time I go through the whole show, but what this episode means. Oh, my God. Okay. Jeff's back. Your thoughts.

[30:10] You're like. Predictions for where things might go with this in the future. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Well, Jeff, that is going to do it for us here on Shades of Grey on this episode. Put a button on this one. Moving on to our next episode. Jeff, I gave you a clue. I'm enjoying giving you cryptic clues to these episodes these days. The next episode is titled New Ground. I told you this episode is also pretty much a Star Trek lift as well. People out there may or may not disagree, may or may not agree with me. I'm not really sure. We'll find out. But, Jeff, you get a chance to make a guess for what you think this is going to be about. New Ground, what do you say? Without the Star Trek thing, I would think New Ground is a continuation of a piece that was dropped in this episode of starting a new SGC off-world. They're going to go break New Ground and try to establish a thing. But that's not a Star Trek episode. What is oh and i can't remember what it was called but it's the one where uh they took wharf's brother and they put him in the holodeck and they made it seem like they were walking to somewhere right to take them to their new ground so there's going to be some race they run into is facing an extinction level event but they're not going to leave and so they find some kind of a.

[31:27] Deceptive way of moving the people to their new ground you are a good guesser jeff that i I am. Well, folks, that is going to do it for us here today on Stargate SG1 for the first time. Hey, thank you guys so much for joining us out there. Please don't forget wherever you're watching this or listening to this, please subscribe, subscribe, hit the like button, leave us a rating and review. And please, most importantly, share this show with somebody that you know that loves Stargate or like my friend Jeff over there needs to get into the gate for the first time. Well, with that, on behalf of my friend Jeff, my name is Brent, and we're going to get out of here. Hey, Brent. We'll see you guys next time. Yeah, Jeff, what's up? I know you have thoughts on my ranking, but do you know how you can tell exactly how I felt about this episode? How? He's cocking his head and raising his eyebrows. Oh, my God. For crying out loud.

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