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Maternal Instinct

Brent Allen and Jeff Akin

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Maternal Instinct - Season 3, Episode 20

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[0:12] Welcome to Stargate SG-1 for the first time still, not a Star Trek podcast. My name is Jeff Akin, and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the first time. And I'm Brent Allen, and I'm watching Stargate SG-1 for the 47th time. But for the first time, I'm going to be looking for what Stargate is trying to teach us. You know, those lessons that hold up a mirror to society, give us hope that things can be better in the future, or just tell us how to be better human beings to one another. As we dive into the 20th episode of the third season, We're going to find out what a maternal instinct is. It's the name of the episode.

[0:45] My prediction last week is that this is essentially going to be a Dr. Frazier episode. We're going to see Cassandra again. It's been a very long time since we've seen her last. And so I'm going to get some of her and Frazier being, being mom and doing her maternal stuff. We'll find out about that here in a minute. Oh, you got a thought. Well, does it still trip you out that like the whole thing about Cassie was a bond between her and sam and now she's gonna go live with dr frazier it is a little weird like but the thing is like sam sam literally travels to other planets all the time no i understand the logistics behind it but when you think about how we like it was the bond between sam and cassie it was that bond okay go live with dr frazier now now go there she was the one who pulled sam out of her funk after jolinar died yeah like there's a real thing there yeah and And maybe we'll revisit some of that one in this episode. Also remember when they traveled to 1969 and then they were coming home and they actually overshot their landing. Yeah, she was the whole thing. Yeah.

[1:46] That's good stuff. We're not going to overshoot this one though. And before we almost even try to overshoot it, why don't you tell us what it looks like to hit it dead on? Yeah. Well, dead on a 20th episode, second to last episode, season three, maternal instinct air date, March 1st, 2000. We had a little bit of a break last week, uh, written by Robert C Cooper, a name you should be familiar with at this point, but the director is a new name for you, Jeff. His name is Peter. I'm hoping I'm saying this correctly.

[2:14] Woest woest or waste it's w-o-e weast weast well because like like you got like walter koenig which is koe but that could also be ko i had a i had a teacher in school with that spelling it was koenig yeah yeah so it could be woest that's why i'm going with woest okay uh but jeff do you remember last week with new ground i introduced you to a lady named heather ash heather had been around as script editor since the very first episode worked on pretty much everything and they're like, Hey, why don't you write an episode? And turns out she'd written a couple of them. And that was the third one that she'd actually written kind of the same thing going on here, except it's now in the director's role, not a writer's role. Peter has been around since children of the gods. He's worked on nearly every episode as the director of photography for the production, but here for the first time, he's stepping into the big chair, the big director's chair, and he's going to kind of pull like a Jonathan Frakes type situation where.

[3:09] He's going to catch an episode or two or three per season from basically here on out wow cool like, man's around frankly i've never heard of his name before today as a stargate fan a long time stargate fan i don't know but i do it's interesting to me you know stargate really is like a family they keep things very much in the family uh with what they have going on so i kind of like that about the uh production and he is going to remain in the role of director of photography for all the other episodes or most of the other episodes that he doesn't personally direct okay so with that jeff that's all i got for you on the front end of this because i can't get into anything else without spoiling the whole episode so what do you say let's go watch this episode let's do it hey listen if you're joining us for the very first time you're amazing welcome every episode is somebody's first episode so the way this works is jeff and i are going to go watch this episode right now if you're hanging out with us on youtube stick around because you're going to be able to watch the reaction. Jeff and I are going to do a live reaction to this video together right now. If you want to see the full unedited version of that, plus all the extra stuff that we do here on the video channel, head over to our Patreon page at patreon.com slash by nerds. You're listening to us on a podcasting app. We're going to meet you in the future on the other side of the episode where I'm going to share my first time thoughts and reactions. Brent's going to share the sci-fi messages that he found. Brent, let's dive into this one.

[4:33] Maternal instinct. Let's get it. Chevron 7, locked.

[4:51] I like how the iris is slow when it closes just enough to be like, open the iris. I wonder how much that costs him to close it and then open it back up. Bratac! Please. Hammond didn't like stop and be like, Stand down! He had the same reaction I did just inside. What has transpired? Chulak was attacked by Apophis. Oh! This ain't gonna be a Frasier episode. We're going in. Son of a bitch! Apophis must have transported off of Sokar's ship before it exploded. Okay, there you go. Somebody's gonna teach that guy how to die. He controls the army of Sokar. Only we saw him turn around and look all villainous. Yeah.

[5:45] I like that. There had to be some other purpose. His arm is swept through Chulak as if he was searching for something. The Harcissus. Apophis fathered a child with Sharae, the host of his main Amonet. Previously on Stargate. He created a host for himself. It is forbidden. Yes, because the child would contain all the knowledge of the Gould. Ominet hid the boy to keep him safe. Of course. The boy would be hunted. He could be the undoing of all the Goa'uld. He's sweeping worlds, probably. All I know is that it's a place called Keb. Oh, Keb? I know where that is. Braitac has all the answers. You have heard of such a place? It is an ancient legend. I did not believe it really existed. But now I do. It has to. The Goa'uld fear and despise Keb. They forbade anyone from speaking of it long ago. When they could no longer carry a Primtar, they would make their journey to Ked. Oh, a retirement home. The other Kalak would learn the path through the darkness into the next life. Kalak, that means soul, right? When some of the Goa'uld finally found out about Ked and made their way there, they did not return. If the Goa'uld are truly all-powerful gods, he would say, how is it that they fear anything? That's a good question. Sounds like the perfect place to hide someone you don't want a ghoul to find. I don't suppose you happen to know the Stargate app. Then what good are you?

[7:10] Oh, there you go. Cross-reference your legends, and here you go. It's such a great plot device, though. You can randomly be like, oh, here's this myth or legend.

[7:30] Address is the only planet in the system that the ghoul didn't include on their map we found it it's a pretty awesome deductive reasoning going really quick boom boom boom we got keb spend a lot of time finding it we got to get there and do that how do we know for sure that this is keb this truly is keb that time may be a promise both braytac's really speaking some pretty, sad like he's giving up i'm old or is it i don't know the jaffa culture around right like do they fight until they're dead? Do they honor their elderly? They walk single files to hide their numbers. The shoe and open-toed sand were worn by Jafar women. When they all met up again, there was a struggle. Then they headed into the forest. Each prince is spread wide. They were running. He's good? Extremely. Hehehe. He is the best. We've never seen a female Jaffa. Yeah, you have. She's Jaffa? Yeah. Smell that? Yeah. That they go through Prim Ta and carry the symbiote and everything? I mean, I assume so. Actually, I've never thought about it. It's just... Jaffa. She's got the thing on her head. But we've also seen non-Jaffa have the thing on their heads, too. Like the priests and stuff. Whoa! Hey, what's his name? What's the spirit dude's name? Oh, yeah. The bird? It's not him. It's okay, sir. It's just a bird. No. Look.

[9:00] That Jaffa got messed up. Well, they said this is where they, like... This is really weird. ...come and then don't return. these bodies are burnt to a crisp and yet nothing around them has even been tucked almost as if lightning struck or maybe some kind of never before seen a weapon that could do such a thing weapon took looks a little excited, his excitometer goes up to.

[9:24] There's the woman she was shot in the back as she flamed i count eight bodies, total and specifically jeff you have seen a female bop jaffa in children of the gods who was carrying Aminette who came up and like did the little thing and we saw it slither out before going into Sharae. That's right. That's right. I think I just think of Jaffa more as war. I could like, I don't ever seen a female one. You literally saw it on the screen. I'm probably not paying attention. I'm just doing it wrong for your first watch. It was only 64 episodes ago. Come on. I'm sorry. What were you saying? I say, I don't think I've ever seen a Jaffa woman fighting like as a warrior. That is probably true. That's probably true. So I guess just like a moment of clarity jaffa is more a race than it is a job necessarily yeah yeah oh yeah they're yeah they're a people group with their own culture and their own way that is distinct and separate from the gold yeah i think that i think that i've thought of them as like they're the army that are also fostering symbiotes but it makes sense to say that whole culture are jaffa that actually makes a lot more sense yeah and like any culture they have their own factions and their own people they're loyal to and stuff like that so when his jafar did not return the harcesis apophis should have sent more perhaps many more which means they might have returned it could all be off the planet.

[10:45] Oh my god there's a building out there in the middle of the forest it's cab it's the reaction in the viewer kind of a little yeah a little not commensurate there this is sacred ground braytac's literally that npc who just knows all the story beats and just gives them to you in little chunks yeah but doesn't give them to you earlier than you need exactly yeah i have usually Usually just, like, one second before you do. Dano's like, what? But he's going to take us on an adventure. Let's do that instead. Or maybe ask if a group of really violent people came through here.

[11:35] Oh, yeah, that's right. This is his thing. child in all of us oh come on he seeks a real human boy of flesh and bones not a puppet those who seek oneness find all that they seek i think this is gonna take a while really jack is the wrong guy to have in this conversation right but sam and tilk is the one here are the ones who are outside that looked quite gouldish one cannot carry darkness on the great path if i remove the symbiote within me i would die you cannot start the journey with it inside you it is a journey to death so a jafar cannot seek oneness before he is willing to die when the mind is freed the body is no longer required i sense you are not ready to meet omad asala i am not ready to die but i take solace in the fact that journey is ahead of me that might be the wisest thing i've heard in this episode so far right if you immediately know the candle is fire then the The meal was cooked a long time ago.

[12:36] I've not studied those cones. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yes. It does not line up to much that makes any sense. Oh, it's happening in their minds. You must believe. Well, maybe what I don't believe is that I can light a candle with my mind. You see, I find it a lot easier to use a lighter or a match. It's much more practical. Oh, well, look at that. Now you blow it up. With your mind. With your mind. Yes. Sorry. Could you, uh, could you light that again?

[13:14] Place your hand in the flame. Won't even feel it. It's not real. Nothing here is real. Everything you're experiencing is in your mind. So where's the boy? Ah! Oh. Why did you tell me to do that? Why did you do it? Because you told me to. Because you trusted. Yes. Within you is the capacity for trust. Trust Omar De Sala. I trusted you. Do not believe you can light the candle. Oh. Believe she can light the candle. Omar De Sala. It's not you, but it's Sayedin that will do it. The one true source. Ooh, that's a cool looking sky. Right? Time's up. Let's go in shooting. So then I started blasting. Somebody needs to report back to the general. The markings on the wall are a language. It's a Bible. I'm pretty sure the aliens discovered a means by which they could ascend to some high school. Plane of existence and went there wherever there is beyond the railings in the shrine as a kind of map for others Who wanted to follow them the monk is just someone who's sort of taken about curatorship kind of a janitor more of a guide and usher It doesn't matter just Please understand. I'm on the verge of ordering a complete search of this place with or without his cooperation Can't do that you're confused. He's on a higher plane and so far. That's where the horse is trust And how long is something like that gonna take you don't.

[14:35] Hey look at that i am the great and powerful daniel all right that's dangerous put it down oh it's dude doing that i thought it's daniel doing that for a second, okay how'd you do that actually i did that oh yes that's what i've been trying to tell you this is it's incredible he taught you how to do things with my mind yeah you could do it too yeah he could teach me how to light candles and move stuff around by thinking cannot teach you what You already know. All right, Jeff, pop quiz. Okay. You could learn how to do one thing with your mind. What would it be? That's a quiz? Like there's a right answer? Awesome. If I could learn how to do one thing with my mind? Yeah. What would it be? To rest truly at peace. Free zen. I don't think I know as much as you think I know. You asked me, you're not going to say? You must come to know Omontasala. You've got some Jaffa activity here. How's your position? Clear, sir. Good. Stand by. I wonder if Coburn's going to die. SG2 is not a very good leadership goal. Why? Well, watch. I'm going to light the whole place on fire. Oh, he is. Look at how he can make big flames. Not a big dirt. Which is really helpful when there's a gas pipe underneath, but.

[15:53] It's not just fire. So much more. All the instructions are here on the walls. All you have to do is be willing to learn and believe. I'm sorry, but something else has to be going on. Sprinkle a little fairy dust. Well, because science. I don't know, but under different circumstances, I would bring in the right equipment and check for some kind of concealed technology before I assume that... Isn't there the smallest part of you that wants to believe a person can reach a higher level? Yes, of course, but... Don't you see what's happening here? I have that power. To do what? To protect the child. I think she doesn't want me to leave until she knows I understand how to protect him. Who's she? The Goward Mothership is landing. As many as 2,000 troops approach. A mothership? About to stay in chat. Wait wait a minute what about so is daniel under the spell of something or is he just really buying into this like that's the question right now he ate something now he's on drugs that's a really specific thing they did with his eyes and his glasses right there yeah did daniel do that too i think that's oma i've done that before, It's right through the wall. Wait, it was a foot through a paper wall. That's so bad.

[17:10] Lots of backup. Bring all the SGs. Right? Right, here they come. Defensive positions. Hold off McClaymore's as long as we can. I don't want to get into this unless we absolutely have to. And if we happen to make it out of this in one piece, we might need to harm Daniel severely. He won't be able to. Well, his meal was cold. Oh.

[17:43] I feel like being in a different dimension or plane was a pretty safe place. You were trying to tell me the boy is better off here with you and I wasn't listening. So are you going to listen? I made a promise. There you go. There you go. That is the right thing to do. I feel bad for that actor right there. She got to get all in the makeup and stuff to do the stuff and they're like, yeah, you're not going to get any lines.

[18:15] What's gonna happen jeff oma desala is gonna solve the problem with her mind, in the name of the god apophis we've come for a young boy does apophis have a new symbol, took that shot so you remember um apophis's army a lot of his jaffa were once a part of another group. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So these are just like the... That's right, that's right. He just killed most of his actually. You heard him! I was talking to you, Jack. What? Jack, if you're ever going to trust me on anything, now is the time. The alien is the one with all the powers and she is not someone you want to fool with if you get my drift. Tilt got the drift. Mm-hmm.

[19:20] I thought you wanted to put out staff blasts like a fireball. Burnt to a crisp. Pretty gnarly. Could you imagine the smell? Well that was cool. Is she gonna get some lines now? Oh. I like how his body deflates, but his arms stay, like, right there. Well, did you see his arms? Those things are cut. I'll see both of you. Probably not. The reason I'm taking him away. Mm-hmm. To another plane of existence. I take it that was the Arcesis child she was holding. I think. I thought we needed that kid. I'm just going to let her... Yeah, you trust her. I trust her. You're all right. Yeah. Let's go home.

[20:26] All right, Jeff. Jeff, that was Maternal Instinct. I'd like to say welcome back to our audio listeners out there. You and I have just finished watching this episode. You for the very first time. Me for a great many a time, but looking for messages. Jeff, you get to go first. Take us through it, first time viewer. What do we think of this episode, Maternal Instinct? I have one big question. Just one. Is it just me or is Tilk's face getting really chubby? It's not you. Yeah, like really, really. I felt like I kind of noticed it last week, but like. Yeah. early and so i was just like oh it's very round yeah so um yeah it's getting to show you all right that's all i have in this episode yeah he says uh yeah basically i guess the donuts at craft services like really got them seriously yeah yeah he'll get to a spot where he starts then and out i mean you know what chris judge looks like today um he he does get to a spot there's there is a youtube video out there that basically tracks teal's face from episode one like all the way to the end and i mean it's almost looking at the kind of change from like a michael jackson before and after type picture really yeah like like not quite that extreme but it's pretty close yeah it's getting pretty obvious but this is clearly a big episode right this is like uh harcesis and all that kind of stuff i think just to kind of put the end at the beginning they ended this episode with like this sense of awe and wonder you know like even tilkin braytac who to.

[21:55] Are out to kill false gods you know cross their arms on their chest and gave a bow like they treated this uh this oma de sala like a for reals god you know or some being worthy worthy of worship i don't think the episode did a good enough.

[22:10] Job though for me to really buy into.

[22:13] That sense of awe and wonder how do you mean like i like the music lifted up they did this like cinematic when the when it flew into the stargate you know over the sg2 team and everything like oh it's this big thing and i'm just like like it was an alien that like i don't know like it needed to use the stargate that seems pretty underwhelming when this whole time they've been talking like it can transcend to other planes of existence and stuff right right i think it's very it's very interesting you know i think like they they talked about how this this group likely seeded some of the mother nature sort of religions and beliefs and things like that in the early earliest times on earth so that's kind of cool like oma desala is his mother nature and that's that's cool also probably not a ghoul so some other some other other being but they spent a lot of time in this and it really interesting everything in this episode was interesting the um at the beginning when they first like started doing the deductive reasoning and cross-referencing legends and myths to figure out where where keb was the whole idea of braytac facing mortality you know and like no i'm probably done this i'm getting tired i'm getting pretty old and his whole arc to the end where he's like i feel young ready to fight we have false gods to kill it's very interesting finding keb and then the buddhist kind of zen buddhist person and daniel going through that whole thing learning to light of flame with interesting.

[23:42] It didn't all come together though. It wasn't cohesive. It felt like a lot of really cool ideas.

[23:50] That was really meant to say, yes, the Harsesis exists. Yes, it was on Keb. It's safe. And now it's somewhere.

[23:59] Right, right. Out there. And the thing that's protecting it has the power to fry people and launch lightning like a very powerful beam. Literally catch multiple staff blasts coming from different angles. Yeah, snatch them right out of the air. So, I mean, this was a good episode. I just feel like it's not as good as they wanted it or meant for it to be. Does that make sense yeah yeah and there were little pieces too i called it out when uh when it happened in the episode when oma de sala was about to reveal herself for the first time she was this flash of well first she kind of showed through in a pond i think jack was looking at it no tilk and and sam were looking at it i'm like oh that's a very ghouly looking slither right there yeah then when she appears to daniel the the way it reflected in his glasses his eyes looked really gouldy when that happened oh yeah but and it seems super intentional or maybe it's just the way the lighting worked i guess i don't know i think yeah i mean that's i wish i had more of a reaction to things but one thing i've noticed in stargate is oftentimes it'll build up and pose a question mike the one that built up for me will daniel be able to do this cool stuff outside of here or is this a local phenomenon like is he going to be able to light fire out of dirt yeah the whole time manipulate guns in midair. Oh, the answer to that question, it was mother nature the whole time. Yeah.

[25:21] And not him at all. And I think too, it was this weird thing where Daniel was both. I feel Daniel was both in awe of just.

[25:30] The being of omadisala the way that she communicated and used her powers also he was disappointed and upset and frustrated and i'm not sure i don't know i feel like he was trying to be multiple things at the same time which watered down the overall reaction to what what happened but on a good note we have something to update our tracking board with it's been a while it has been it's been a while yeah we uh we are keeping track of several things one of the things we are uh keeping track of is every time jack says for crying out loud and we got a new for crying out loud in this particular episode which is going to bring us up to an even 20 for crying out loud 20 20 for crying out loud yeah cool i think my last thought on this episode is this is clearly a paving the road episode like this happened and now there's possibilities in the future let me ask you do you think that's true because i said something at the beginning because you've just kind of come to see how stargate operates or it's exactly what you said where it's just clearly this thing i think it's clearly the thing the through this season yeah from the time of you know of uh eminette and the you know when when we found out she was praying it and the whole thing that's been a big through line and this season has been the harsh thesis.

[26:51] Big deal. They're not going to just bring out the heart C system and be like, Oh, here it is now going away, especially building up the threat that he is and all those things. And so this was basically, I, what I feel is this was a thing to say, Hey, all this stuff we've been talking about totally legit. See, here he is right here. Also taking them off the board for a while. You'll see him later. And a lot of the stuff will make sense when you see him because it's going to be weird. Maybe he'll be older than he should be, or be able to do weird mind powery stuff. And would if they just brought him out yeah but with this all that would make sense so i think just the way stargate tells its stories this was clearly a launch pad for future things and while it might be a launch pad was this a crucible did we learn from this were there any sci-fi messages for us to partake from well i'm not really sure that it was a launch pad but it definitely was a lunch pad it was a lunch pad uh that's a little walt disney world humor there for folks who are in the know.

[27:48] Um, was there, was there anything, you know, Jeff, this mess, this episode was chock full of stuff. You know, if you knew that the camp was, if you knew that the candle was already lit, then the meal has been cooked a long time ago. Don't put anything between you and the place you are. Um, trust Oma to Sala know that I'm not the one doing it. I just fair faith that she's the one who's doing it. But does any of that really equal a sci-fi message? Not just a moral message, not just what, but a sci-fi message. Is it telling us something that really we can only get through the medium of sci-fi? Let's go through the litmus test. Do we get a hope for a better future?

[28:23] Okay. Are we talking about how we can be better human beings to one another? Maybe.

[28:32] A little bit. If you read into the Zen cones that they were sharing. Oh, so you got to read pretty far into it. Yeah, I'm very far into that. I got you. I got you. Does it hold up a mirror to society? No. i mean outside of here's a japanese shinto buddhist actually i'd probably be more chinese wouldn't it buddhist yeah uh no so unfortunately i gotta i gotta go no this really isn't one of those episodes i like this episode i've always liked this episode the the words that they say it's kind of like a little mind trip you know it's it's a real hardcore mind trip but i love the monk he's probably one of my favorite guest actors guest stars i don't even know his name oh wow but i really enjoy him in this show in this in this episode so perfect in the role yeah absolutely absolutely but unfortunately i'm not here to talk about how much i like the episode i'm here to talk about the messages and they're really just not there for me and that's okay i want to remind people a lot of times the best episodes don't have messages a lot of times the worst episodes out there actually have really deep and poignant messages it's just how it seems to.

[29:38] But it does seem to be that it works that way. So Jeff, I don't know that I can even really give this one a Chevron. I just don't think it was there. I agree. When I was, you know, I was kind of keep an eye out for things. And you know, one of the, on my life journey in the last, I don't know, year or so from the time we're recording this, I've really developed a meditation practice that I do on a regular basis. And I think it's an important thing everybody should do. Pretty amazing. And this episode hit on that. And I was kind of pulling some messages from the episode in regards to that, but that's based only on my own personal experience. That's not in the episode itself. At most, I could see a Chevron, but every single message in this is something you have to have your own shovel and do your own digging to get to. So I think zero is a very fair rating. I appreciate that. Well, I am rating, but you, my friend are ranking you get to place this episode in our 100% completely accurate, definitive, immutable ranking of season three of Stargate SG one. Oh, where to go? There's so many. Let's just do the top five just because the number one episode right now is Joel and our memories and the devil, you know, that was a two-parter. So really we count it as one forever in a day. Number three is fair game. Number four is shades of gray. Number five is pretense.

[30:55] Jeff, I'm not sure that this episode cracks the top five. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. You get to make that decision. Where does this episode go? Maternal instinct. It comes pretty close to the top five. I think I was pretty harsh on it when I was going through my for the first time reactions, but this was a good episode. I'm going to tell you what it's not better than, though. It is not better than Foothold. it is better though by a slim margin than learning curve making this one brent our new number seven that's a pretty strong man i'm looking at this top 10 episodes here some good episodes in here it's our top 12 episodes i think for me that's where that's where the line draws is right at number 12 right now for us yeah you know um between i can see 13 which is dead man switch that was fun but also yeah yeah rules of engagement rules of engage actually rules of engagement is okay i could i could throw that one up a little bit but demons is just a little new ground i feel like i've seen that so many times before and what really happens point of view seth past past and present like i'm okay not to watch those episodes again but it's a good spot jeff very very good spot right there number seven is where we are going to place this i can be a very fair ranker. I can be a very fair raider. Look at that! We're good R&Rs. Although I prefer to be a buccaneer than a raider, but whatever. Where is that?

[32:23] Well, Jeff, that's going to do it for us this week on Stargate SG-1. That is it for Maternal Instinct. Jeff, would you like to know what we are watching next week? Yeah. What are we closing season three out with? Since the season three to four is a two-parter, right? It will be a two-parter. Yes, sir. All right. So here we go. All right. Next week, we're watching. Oh, buddy. You're never going to guess what this one's about. We were watching an episode titled Crystal Skull. Kingdom of or just? Nope. Just Crystal Skull. No Indiana Jones in this one. So I will bet, I will bet a hundred Canadian dollars that we will see a crystal skull. Human, not an alien one. Like we'll see a crystal human skull in this one.

[33:09] And it's going to have a message that they're going to have to figure out. Like is it like a resonant thing like how do they get it sort of like it'll cause like it'll bring it in it'll cause some problems what's going on what's going on and then probably sam will be like oh this frequency is whatever so it's going to be a literal crystal skull that carries some kind of important message you're a good guesser jeff we'll see, All right. Well, that's going to do it for us right here on Stargate SG one for the first time. Thank you guys so much for joining us. Hey, please don't forget to subscribe while you're out there to wherever you get the show, whether you're listening on an audio podcast, whether you're listening on a video podcast, whether you're at the YouTube, uh, Patreon, Spotify.

[33:50] Audible, any of those places, please rating review comment down below. If comments are available, we love getting to see those. We love getting to interact with you guys. And most importantly please please please do share this show with somebody that you know who loves stargate sg1 or like my friend jeff over there needs to get into the gate for the very first time so for jeff i'm brent we're signing off thank you so much for joining us we'll see you guys next time right here hey brent stargate sg1 for the first time yep dude i don't know.

[34:20] About you but i'm feeling awesome right now i got all this energy and stuff we should hook up we should go out and do something um you know it's really kind of late i mean what do you think i'm like 20 years old i gotta go to bed man no that's gonna be wild not me i'm feeling super young vibrant young alive i mean not a day over 80 you don't look it either.

[35:32] You doing all right? You had a rough time in there. It's been a, it's been a, I've had a rough couple of, I've had a very physically taxing rough couple of days and I was getting, it was getting in there. I was like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. That was part of my, when I came up with the ending, I'm like, it's totally got to be something about not feeling 80 over 80. Yeah. Also, this will be great for the people on Patreon who watch that. And you know, the people on Patreon love, they love it when it looks like you're falling asleep during reactions. It's one of their favorite things. Fortunately, I've seen this one so many times. I'm like, I got this one. I got this one. I know where I am on it. Here's the thing though. Like, like, here's the thing. Like I hear everything that's happening. Yeah. I'm, I'm a thousand percent here. It's just like, you and I have watched hundreds of episodes together. I've never felt that you weren't fully in it or prepared. Like it's good.