The Confident Podcast

EP 215 | 6 Lessons In Leadership & Confidence From Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour

The Confident Podcast

Ready to trade performative hustle for focused power? We kick off 2026 by unpacking six hard-won leadership lessons drawn from Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour—then translating them into simple moves you can use this week. From truly operating in your zone of genius to leading with emotional clarity, this conversation is a practical blueprint for confidence that compounds.

We start with alignment: why the Year of the Horse energy—boldness, flow, freedom—matters, and how a short holiday reset changed my eyes-under-bags reality. Then we get tactical. You’ll hear how staying in your lane elevates the whole team, why EQ beats emotional suppression, and how the real magic happens in rehearsal, not the spotlight. We dive into culture design too: setting clear goals, sharing the upside with meaningful bonuses, and building rituals that recognize people who rarely touch the mic.

Pressure will come, so we map out calm responses: scenario planning, clear roles, and the “respond, don’t react” first five minutes. Finally, we talk about being fully yourself without using authenticity as an excuse to stop growing. Expect reflection questions you can use with your team, your calendar, and your next big decision, plus a peek at what’s new: a fresh set, logo, website, and a lineup of guests we can’t wait to share.

If you’re aiming for higher performance with less friction—more clarity, cleaner systems, deeper confidence—this is your start line. Hit play, save your favorite takeaway, and send it to a friend who’s ready to lead with courage. And if this resonated, subscribe, leave a quick review, and join the newsletter at podcast.lisatarkington.com so you don’t miss what’s next.

Chapters: 

  • 0:00: Welcome And New Year Energy
  • 1:07: Year Of The Horse: Boldness And Flow
  • 3:15: Rest, Renewal, And Fresh Direction
  • 6:38: Why Study Taylor Swift
  • 7:50: Lesson 1
  • 13:21: Lesson 2
  • 16:35: Lesson 3
  • 19:02: Lesson 4
  • 24:06: Lesson 5
  • 26:40: Lesson 6



More than just a podcast:

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There was a really bad tragedy that happened on her heiress tour, and she was going to meet all of the families. And she shared in the beginning that she really had to get the emotions like the sadness out because she needed to be her best self moving forward for these individuals. Welcome to the Confident Podcast. I am Lisa Tarkington, your guide to mastering confidence and leadership. As a business and leadership coach, keynote speaker, and the founder behind the Nonprofit Lead, I am here to equip you with the confidence, clarity, and strategy to create game-changing results so that you can step into your power as the person that you are meant to be. If you press play today, it's because you're ready for something bigger. Each episode, I'll bring you real, raw conversations and actionable insights that will empower you to redefine your leadership, reclaim your confidence, and transform into the unstoppable force you've always been known to be. This isn't just another podcast. It's your journey that we're on together. So buckle up and let's dive into this transformation. Hey everybody, welcome back for another episode of the Confident Podcast, and welcome to 2026. I am Lisa Tarkington and I am your host, and we are set up in a new set, a new fresh look looking into our podcast for this year. And I'm so excited to have you be part of this journey with me. So if you've been following anything around the Chinese astrology, I could never say that word stuff, you probably realized that 2025 was the year of the snake. I've been following a lot of this probably this fall. I had no idea that it was the year of shedding, releasing, um, moving through fears, inner growth, and many other key things that like help us kind of release things that no longer serve us. And I thought that was fascinating because I felt like this year or in 2025 was the year that I did a lot of shedding, a lot of changes in my life. And so that's what's really cool. And then when we look at 2026, it's really the year of the horse, which horse is honestly one of my favorite animals. So I thought that was really cool. It's about boldness, alignment, focus, flow, freedom, which is one of my core values, and big vision. And all of those words really, really um resonate with me. So if you've been following this podcast for a while, um, you can probably see why I'm very giddy for 2026 because of all of this stuff. I love everything about focus, alignment, flow. And as I shared, like I felt all of the things in 2025. I felt like I was releasing, shedding things, learning so much about myself. And maybe that's why I'm excited for the new year. And because it's the year of the horse, I plan to be more bold this year, more aligned, um, more freedom. And it's funny, we I took a little break in 20 um during the holiday season. When I say break, you know, I I guess I didn't go full-blown work every day, but there was some work every day. I think one thing that I really noticed about myself is my eyes were a little less um, like had bags under them. I had a little bit more different like look at things. And I think it's because I finally was able to slow down, focus on the things that I want, and then plan for the future. And as I was thinking about that and why I'm like, why do I not feel as tired or why do I feel this renewed sense of energy? It's because I took a a break. I gave my body a break. And that's something that I noticed as well during that time is I was really exhausted. There were moments when we would be on the weekends and my uh my son would be playing and be like, is it nap time yet? Because mom needs a nap, right? And so it's really cool to be back into this process of like feeling better, you know? And like I said, I used the time during the holidays to spend time with my son. Um, he is growing up so fast. And then I did some deep work. I looked at processes and operations. We lined up some amazing guests for this podcast, which I'm so excited for you guys to hear from. I did a lot of writing and alignment for this new year. And all of this come out comes for me to say that the podcast is also bringing some new vibes to it. So we got a new set, as you can see. We got a new logo if you've been on our social media and we got a new website. So if you haven't checked it out, it's podcast.lisa tarkington.com. So check it out. Subscribe to our newsletter. We have some really cool, fun things coming to our subscribers, as well as a giveaway that we're gonna be giving out as well. So I'm pretty excited for that. And then tomorrow, I'm really excited because I'm leaving to go to a podcast conference for the first time. And I can't wait to share all of that with you guys. Thank you, Buzz Sprout, for sending me. I'm really excited to learn, be surrounded by people that are like-minded in the podcast space. So follow all of my socials because I'm gonna be sharing a lot of those details there. So that's kind of like an update, right? I love giving you guys updates. I love having conversations and sharing about my life, but you're also here because you want to learn something, which I love about this podcast, which I love bringing to all of you. And so we are going to learn about the fabulous Taylor Swift today. In my world, I'm just gonna be a little honest, she can be a little controversial. And I will say I love learning from people regardless of how controversial they are. Good, bad, maybe the how where they stand on things politically, where they stand on things, um, just in life and their values. Um, and so however you feel about Taylor, I will say this. She brings a lot of amazing things that you can learn from. And so that's really what I want from this podcast today is to really embrace what she has taught me and taught many people. And so at the end of 2025, I sat down and I watched her whole documentary. And when I say watch, I mean I really watched it. Normally, if you catch me at home, I have the TV on, I have a series going on, but I am working on my computer and I'm like half-listening. And my husband will come into the room and he'll say, like, oh, what's happening? I'll be like, uh, I don't, I don't really know. Like maybe we should fast um uh rewind it so we can check something out because I'm only just his background noise. But for this, what I did is I really watched it and I really listened because I wanted to learn. And so maybe it was the right time for me to uh watch as I'm looking at 2026 and what I want and a new era of my life. Um, but I'm excited to share with you guys what I learned and what I found on socials and people's stories and conversations I had with people about what they took away and what I hope that you can take away from today. So let's dive into this conversation. So these are going to be six different things that I've learned from Taylor Swift's Taylor Swift's new document documentary, all about her life, about her tour. And so the first one is going to be around know your zone of genius. You guys know I love talking about zone of genius and where to rely on others. So when I watched this podcast, what kind of came up for me was that I was a little envious that she gets to be in her zone so much. And that was a really cool green flag for me because I truly believe that we need to be more into our zones. And if you want to know more about that, reach out to me. I love coaching people on their zone of genius. And this is kind of what I took from it is that she is clearly in her zone of genius when she's writing music. She's amazing at visionary, uh being a visionary, a storyteller, her performance, and her connection to people. All fascinating things. But where I saw her light up the most was when she was singing, when she would hear different verses from different songs and she'd be able to put them together. Like that is a skill. But watching her eyes, her concentration, the way that she wanted to focus on that was outstanding. And I also really loved that she was not trying to be everything. I mean, as a small business, there are many times where I have to be everything, and that's not fun. Then you don't really get to be in their zone. But I truly believe that she wasn't always in her zone of genius all the time, right? Like she had to have the operations, all of those types of things set up. But now she's been able to move up a little bit and not a little bit, a lot in what she's been able to focus on. So the tour really highlighted in the the video did of choreographers, musical dancers, uh, directors, band members, stage managers, and everybody being in their lane, everybody trying to be in their zone of genius. And I truly believe that when everybody is in their zone of genius, um, companies, businesses, um, and she has a business, all really grow in those zones. And so I think what was really cool about the Eras tour is it wasn't because of one person who did it all. It was because everybody knew their part, but knew their part well. People were in roles that they were in their zone versus just being in a role to be in a role. And they did their job and they did it well. And so I think my takeaway, especially for being in your zone of genius and knowing where others um are as well, is Taylor was able to look at other people's zones and look at where they are growing and give them opportunities there. She never said to a dancer, you know what I want you to do? I want you to go and direct this now, right? She allowed people to be in their zone because she knew that when she was in her zone, it was awesome. I think the other cool thing is she also shared, like, I um I'm not great at certain things. And I think her being honest with that and saying, like, over time I've had to get better, especially with the dancing piece was really great because yes, those are part of her job. I mean, we all have things in our job that we might not be the best at, but that's why she surrounded herself with people that are great at that, so that she could grow in that place. So my takeaway is know your zone. It isn't um, it isn't a weakness, it's beautiful. And working toward focusing more time and attention there is going to help you let go. It's gonna have you have more energy and be more efficient, which is really important. And so it's really about the mindset shift. And this is the mindset shift that I want you all to have is I need to prove I can do it all to I'm most powerful when I can do what only I can do. I'm gonna say that again. It goes from I need to prove I can do it all to I'm most powerful when I can do what only I can do. And so my reflection question for all of you is where are you doing work that isn't actually yours to carry? And where is the work that if I asked you today where you could focus your whole day on, what would that be? And how do you spend more time there? So that's lesson number one. Lesson number two, emotional intelligence is a strength. And it's funny that this is even number two because I was literally watching a TikTok TikTok last night of someone talking about how emotional intelligence has always been around, but we're talking about it more. And you know, the first time I heard about emotional intelligence, I realized I was very intrigued by it, but it seemed like a big ambiguous word to me. And I think that what I saw through the series is how emotional intelligence comes out. And it's something that very much fascinates me with what I do for a living. And so it was really cool to see it come out in her eras tour. So I think when you think about this being a strength, you might be thinking, well, duh Lisa, of course this is a strength. But I think what, like I said, I think it was really cool to be shown through it. So it's really about like, how do you show the emotional side of you? How do you have that intelligence piece? But you also don't lose who you are through the process. I feel in the past I've like hid certain pieces of myself because I didn't want to show that emotional side because I didn't know the repercussions that could come with it. But I think what was really cool about this documentary was that it didn't hide emotions. There were tears, there were gratitude, there was overwhelming, there was joy. And Taylor never suppressed her emotions in the right spaces. But she also, and and I also think it was really great that she didn't allow that to derail her from the mission. And one of the things that I wanted to point out that I thought was really intriguing was is she there was a really bad tragedy that happened on her heir's tour. And she was going to meet all of the families. And she shared in the beginning that she really had to get the emotions, like the sadness out because she needed to be her best self moving forward with for these individuals. And I found that very interesting because she wanted to be her best self for them, but she also needed to feel her feelings. And I think she knew the time and the place to do it because at that moment when she was meeting the families around this tragedy, it wasn't about her. It was about making sure that they felt seen and heard and had a great time. But she also needed to feel those emotions. And I think that that was a really great, complex thing to show because I think a lot of times leaders have a hard time with do I show it here? Do I just suppress all of these feelings? And I think she did a very powerful thing of acknowledging it, but also staying very present and grounded and also knowing the mission at hand and being very professional as well. So, again, this is what I see a lot with leaders. It's really hard to balance it. I would say that there's no perfect plan for this. I see it in a variety of different spaces that I work that it really matters on the approach and it really matters on the audience. But I think it's having that emotional awareness of, okay, this is a strength of mine that I can feel these things, I can feel sad, I can feel overwhelmed, I can feel joy. It's a strength, but it's also understanding, okay, where is the time and the place that I show that? And then where is the time and the place that, you know, I allow myself to feel those things behind the scenes. I would even say for Taylor, when she talks a little bit about the two, where like she had a lot of personal stuff going on, but her job was to perform, right? And I think she does a really good job of balancing both of those acts as well. So you can feel deeply and you can still lead clearly at the same time. And so my reflection question for all of you to think about is what would it look like to lead with an emotional and clarity, clarity instead of emotional control? So what would it look like to lead with emotional clarity versus emotional control? That's your reflection question for number two. There's no perfect time to focus on your health. There's just now. And for me, sustainable health has never been about doing everything perfect. It's about being consistent. And that's why AG1 has been part of my daily routine for years. Every single morning before coffee and before I start working, I mix one scoop of AG1 into water. 20 seconds. That's it. And it's been a microhabit that anchors everything that I do for my health. AG1 simplifies nutrition in a way that actually works. 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So again, that's AG1.com slash the Confident. All right, lesson number three. It is when people don't see the hard work. How many times do we just like stare at highlight reels and be like, they've just had it so easy? And then we get to know the story and we're like, whoa, they did not have it so easy. Because the hard work usually becomes behind the or goes behind the scenes. And I think when people watch this, the series, this Air's Tour documentary, they got to see the prep, the repetitions, the planning, the logistics, the backstage work, um, and not just the final show. So again, behind the scenes, there's a lot of work that happens. And I would say with any business that happens, anybody that you look at that has confidence now, you're probably like, oh, they finally just got confident. No, that was probably tons of different repetitions coming into play to make that happen. It's about showing, not just the flashy things. And I thought it was really cool too when she talked about even how she had a train for the stage. And that happened months before they even started the Eras tour. And so it's thinking about like, okay, what do I have to do now, knowing what my end goal is? And it's those little tiny habits. And if you're interested in tiny habits, check it out from BJ Fogg. He has a great tiny habit that sets you up for success. And when you think about this and you think about confidence, it's not about something that you have when you arrive, it's something that you earn through preparation, practice, and consistency. And over time, you can see that confidence can grow in everybody. And I think you see that with her. And I think one of the things that I've noticed in my career and how I aspire to be certain, uh, look up to certain people and aspire to be like them is I know that they've had to roll up their sleeves. I know that they've had to wear different hats, that they just didn't get to one point because it was handed to them. And I think that this video really shared that. I really got to see the hard work that Taylor puts in. Now, mind you, she has an amazing team who is also putting in hard work. But she's not just sitting there twiddling her thumbs thinking everything's done, right? She's in it with them. So confidence grows when you trust yourself because you've done the work, not because you're hoping it works out. And that's when hard work really pays off. All right, number four give back to those that helped you achieve your goals. I love this one. And this had to be my favorite part of the whole series. In one of the series, Taylor said, and I'm totally paraphrasing when I say this, but bonus day is so important because setting a precedent for the Ares tour is so important to me because people who work on the road, if their tour grosses more, they get more of a bonus, she explained. And these people work so hard and they do their and they are the best at what they do. And like, who doesn't want to give out bonuses? When I watched her in this scene, first off, she set the tone of okay, if we do well, if you all are in your zone of genius, if you are all doing your job, we are all rewarded. She just wasn't rewarded. And I think that that was very, very awesome to say in the beginning because I think sometimes people like, you know, we like that rewards. System a little bit. And then it kept going great. The air is tour. People showed up. They did their job. They were in their zone. They were a team. You could see all of that throughout the series. And because they did so well, she kept her promise. And she allowed them to have, you know, a bonus and watching their faces come alive because they were so excited and so grateful for it. I thought that was really cool cool because not only did she set that precedent from the beginning, which I think is really important when it comes to organizations and companies, but then she followed through. And I think sometimes we look at it as like, oh, I'd love to give everybody money, right? But I also look at it in the sense of too like how many people have helped you on your journey. And sometimes it's just like an easy thank you. You know, I was reaching, I was chatting with someone the other day. Um she was part of my journey when I turned 20 years old. And we stay in contact like once or twice a year. We send each other Christmas cards and birthday cards. And it is just really cool to think that I still get to thank her for all of that. And we still stay in contact and we're still, you know, in each other's journeys. And so, like, if you haven't thanked someone today that's in your life, um, highly suggest doing that. But I'm gonna go back to, I'm gonna circle back to what I was saying about the bonuses, is I think that that was a really cool moment for myself to see as a leader. And I hope that a lot of other leaders took away from this. And, you know, I have talked to some of my coaching clients about this, but I see a lot of entitlement right now. Um, I see a lot of also people working hard, um, but maybe not on the right goals for their companies. And when you see stuff like this, it's a great reminder that when people are aligned on the goals, when people are, you know, not, okay, this is what I want to focus on. This is what I think it's like. No, this is the vision of the company. This is where we want to go. And people are on board and they're doing their work, they're in their zone, then we get that reward. And I think it's really important that leaders um give back. Um, but I also think it's very important to be very clear because then everybody benefits. And so every party has to be part of that journey. So that was pretty powerful. I think the other thing she did was recognize people behind the scenes. You know, one of the rituals that she has is she gives out the 22 hat moment, um, where it's just like very intentional gratitude and human connection, which is also very important to give back. Um, so it's thinking about like my going from my success defines me to my success reflects the people around me. And so asking yourself, who do you spend time with? And so my reflection question for you is who helped you get to where you are today? And do they know that? And if they don't, I highly suggest you reach out to them. All right, number five, resilience through pressure and adversity. So I would say that Aeros tour face massive pressures. They had logistics, they had safety concerns, emotional events, um, public opinions about everything that they do. And their responses to all of this wasn't panic and wasn't avoidance. It was calm, it was thoughtful decision making, which I thought was beautiful. There was a whole scene in the series where um there were some weather issues coming up. And Taylor talked a little bit about it, but it was really cool to see a whole team of people come together and be like, okay, what do we have to do for the safety of the fans? How do we look at these things? But the whole time no one was running around like with their heads with it, like a chicken with their head cut off. It was more of like, okay, like how do we all like work together? And how do we make sure that we're thinking the best for everybody? And through all of the series, there were definitely things that came up, things that didn't go well. You know, one time she tripped and fell and hurt her hand, and how does she perform? You know, it's really about how do we show up even when there's challenges that arise. One of the things that I see a lot with my clients, with where I see a lot of things, people are worried that resilience is kind of getting lost. And I agree, right? We um my generation, maybe the generation above, we've gone through a lot of hard things and you know, we were told rub some dirt on it. And so sometimes it's very easy to say, like, well, I don't want the next generation to feel that way. But I would say, like, yes, and also we also need to learn skills that can help us um be resilient to bounce back. And so I'm hoping that this is a skill that comes back more because it really helps you be adaptable, it helps you with challenges. And honestly, it's really cool to think about when you look back at your life and be like, wow, I had the tools to get through this. And as I was putting this together, I was really reflecting on my own journey. And I was driving the other day thinking about this, and I was sitting down with someone and I was like catching up about how, you know, how my maternity leave was, all of the things that happened personally, professionally in the last six months to me, and that I really couldn't believe that like I didn't have an emotional breakdown. And she looked me dead in the eye and she goes, I can't believe you didn't either. And I just like sat there and I like was, I thought I was kidding when I said that to her. And she just sat there and being like, I have no idea how you did that with a smile on your face. And I thought a lot about that. And it's because I have the skill of resilience. I've gone through challenges, adversities, pressures. And while I'm not like Taylor Swift at all, we are very different. I think that it's really great to know that at any level that you're at of success or fame, um, fame or however you want to look at that, we all have those moments come up for us where we are going to have to be resilient. And so I would say if this is a skill that you might be struggling with of how do you bounce back, highly suggest getting into classes or learning how to work through those, getting coaching, because resilience isn't ignoring pressures, but it's about how do you respond clear clearly. And confidence is part of that as well. And so, my reflection question for all of you when you think about your resilience is when pressure hits, do you react or do you respond? And I think that's very key. And I think it was really cool to see how they did that in the Aeros tour and what are the takeaways. But also it's really cool to just look around to our lives and be like, okay, who's gone through what and look at what they've been able to accomplish by moving forward. All right, the last and final piece of this lesson is the simple, it should be simple, but it's not always. It's be you. Just be you. And when I thought about this one, I took a big axehale. I'm not gonna lie. I was like, just be me. And I know being you is easier said than done. In 2025, last year, I really tried to be more myself. And instead, I had some backlash. People weren't ready for me to just be fully me because they're used to like professional put together Lisa, says the right things, has all the right things. And I think what that year taught me, and I've I've lost myself before, and I've talked about this on the podcast, is that I was starting to lose myself again. And I really wanted to find myself. And 2025 was a year of shedding what didn't fit anymore so that I could find myself. And it's been really cool to think about like, how do we just be us and how do we be okay with that? You know, I think Taylor's whole story showcases that as someone who wanted to be seen for who they were. Um, and I think years prior, she wasn't always herself. And I think we can all, if you followed her journey, you can see that. You can see when she was trying to fit in or be what everybody else wanted her to be, say the right things. Um, and I think we also go through different eras of our lives or different versions of ourselves. And I always say it's really cool when you sometimes lose yourself for a little bit because you're like, okay, this doesn't feel good. Like, how do I go home to myself? And what I watched through this Eras Tour is I watched Taylor go home to herself. And I thought that was really cool. And I believe that I'm getting there as well. I said that 2026 is the year that I'm coming home to myself. And every time I say that, I just like think of myself in a warm blanket by the fireplace, just being truly me. And so I think, like I said, the Eras Tour really taught me that Taylor no longer is trying to be a different version of herself. She's not trying to set up for expectations of others or trends or all of those things, but she is being her. And I truly believe that multi, multiple um identities can coexist together. You can be a performer, you can be a strategist, you can be a leader, you can be a daughter, you can be a partner, you can be all of these things, but it's about like who you are at the center and the core of it. I guess what's your brand at the end of the day? And we all have a brand. And, you know, you don't need to shrink or harden to be taken seriously. And I think she got to be her through this new experience. And I think those people loved her for it. I mean, she still has haters. So I think that that has to be a reminder for everybody is being you doesn't mean that you're people pleasing. It means that you're being okay if people don't want to be with you all the time. I also think being you means that you're being yourself, but you're not using that as a crutch. You're also willing to grow as you want. And so it needs to go from I need to adjust of who I am to be accepted to who I am is the asset. And so my reflection question for you on this one is is where are you editing yourself editing yourself to fit in? Where are you editing yourself to fit in? And so just to recap, because those were a lot of great points from this uh Eras tour that I boiled down just to six because there was a lot, is know your zone of genius and where to rely on others. Emotional intelligence is a strength. It is sometimes when when people don't see the hard work, give back to those um those that help you achieve your goals, resilience through pressure and anxiety, and then be you. Those are the six. And those are things that I want you to remind yourself as you're moving forward in your life and moving forward in 2026. Like all of these are very key. And it's really cool sometimes to watch things and learn from other people so that we can grow as well. So take these reflections, insert yourself. What stage are you staying on right now with your life? How are you giving it your all? How do you want to show up? Are you even in your zone of genius? Are you even being true to who you are? And I'll close with this because I love just kind of closing with the podcast and recapping. And this was a really great series for me to watch. I think it was very timely with my life. I think it was a great learning experience. Um, and I think it's cool to just like recap. I had some great conversations with friends about what we took away, what we learned. And one friend was like, oh, she's such a genius. One was like, I just loved how she gave back to her team. But then it's about why do we want those things? What made us feel that way? And then how do we implement those into our lives? And as you think about your life in 2026, I hope you stick around. We're gonna have an amazing year for this podcast. We're gonna be trying out some things new. We have some great guests. It's not always gonna be me, but I wanted to start this year off just you and me. And I'm excited. So please subscribe to my newsletter, subscribe to our website, our YouTube. We got a new YouTube channel, so please, please check that out. It's brand new. And as I always say, continue to spread love and kindness to everybody that you meet. And have a great day. Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Confident Podcast. If today's episode resonated with you, I'd love to hear about it. So send me a message at podcast.lisa Turkington.com. Don't forget, while you're there, to subscribe to our newsletter, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and don't forget to spread the good by sharing this with someone in your life. Remember, you have the power to choose confidence every single day. Keep showing up, keep striving, and keep believing in your potential. I'm cheering you on, and I'll see you next time.

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