Raised in Silence with Award Winning Realtor Maria Gallucci

In this inspiring episode of Worthy & Abundant, I sit down with Maria Gallucci — REALTOR®, GRI, CRS, Author, and fluent in ASL. Maria is a multi-award-winning real estate agent and proud CODA (Child of Deaf Adults). Growing up as one of six hearing children raised by Deaf parents, she learned ASL before English and built her life around connection, communication, and resilience.

Maria shares her journey of breaking barriers in real estate, winning top sales awards, and using her story to empower others. 

We also dive into:

💫 What it was like growing up as a CODA and how it shaped her perspective
💫 The mindset and habits behind her success in real estate
💫 Maria's new book "Raised in Silence" (15 yrs in the making) 
💫 The power of authenticity, compassion and acceptance

This is a conversation filled with heart, wisdom, and encouragement.

🎧 Tune in now and let Maria’s story remind you that your uniqueness is your greatest strength.

Maria Gallucci is a multi-award-winning real estate agent and proud CODA (Child of Deaf Adults). Growing up as one of six hearing children raised by Deaf parents, she learned ASL before English and helped her parents buy a home at just 12 years old. This experience shaped her passion for inclusive communication and helping those who are often overlooked.

For over 30 years, Maria has supported homebuyers from all walks of life, with special focus on the Deaf, Hard of Hearing, and LGBTQ+ communities. She's the founder of Uptown Realty Group, Gallucci Homes, ASL @ Compass Affinity Group, and ASL Realty- a national platform connecting Deaf & Hard of Hearing clients with signing agents - and ranks in the top 1% of agents in Colorado and top 1.5% nationwide.

Maria serves on boards for Rocky Mountain Deaf School, DOVE, and Colorado Association of the Deaf. Her motto "just try" reflects her belief that meaningful connection starts with one small step. Her debut book Raised in Silence is both a love letter to the Deaf & Hard of Hearing community and a guide for bridging communication gaps.

📖 Raised in Silence on Amazon: www.rasiedinsilence.com
🏡 Website: www.Galluccihomes.com
📧 Email: maria@galluccihomes.com
📷 Instagram: @galluccihomes
YouTube: Maria Gallucci Channel

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 Welcome back to Worthy and Abundant, the podcast. I'm so grateful you're here. It means the world to me. Today I have a special guest. She is a realtor, an advocate and author. She's an award-winning Colorado realtor. Her name is Maria Gallucci.

She is a multi-award winning Colorado real estate broker, author, and lifelong advocate for inclusive communication and accessible housing. With over 30 years of experience, Maria specializes in working with the DAF Heart of Hearing and LGBTQ plus communities, as well as builders, investors and families across Ember, Colorado Springs, Northern and Southern Colorado, Western Slope, and Nationwide.

She's the founder of Uptown Realty Group and Gallucci Homes and is consistently ranked among the top one. 0.5% of realtors nationwide. Maria is also a top producing agent at Compass, and she is a child of deaf adults. And Maria learned American sign language before English, and at age 12, she helped her parents purchase their first home serving as an unofficial interpreter.

This pivotal. Pivotal experience shaped her mission to ensure that clients from underrepresented communities are seen, heard, and respected, especially in the home buying and selling process. There's so much more to say. She just released her new book this past weekend called Raised in Silence, and I'm so excited to talk to her and dive into all of this stuff.

Because we here at Worthy Abundant, we talk about entrepreneurship. Everything, women empowerment and all the things. So welcome, Maria, to the show. Thank you for being here. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so proud of the book and I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. Yes. Tell us, what inspired you to write the book?

I think it's 15 years in the making. 'cause I think I saw how my parents were taking a advantage of not having the support system that they had during medical appointments or like financial documents. So for me, I just wanted to build awareness and just bridge the gap between the deaf and hard of hearing community and the hearing world.

Wow. And what do you hope readers will take away from the book? I think in being inclusive and not not thinking that we're separate communities. 'cause we're all just human and all and we all just won't wanna feel accepted. And I feel like that's beautiful. That's what I hope to take away. Yes. So you describe yourself as an interpreter kid.

What was it like growing up as the voice and yours for your parents at such a young age? What was that like? I think for us, we felt like it was normal because that's how we were raised. But then when as we got older we just noticed, oh hey, this probably isn't right. 'cause I had to, tell my mom that she had terminal cancer because back then she didn't have, or we they didn't have interpreters. They had interpreters, but they weren't providing them very often as they are now. And so we were the ones who had to tell her that she actually had terminal cancer and only had less than three months to live.

So I think in those situations, it's harder when your kids and they're your parents. How old were you when you had to tell your mother that and what happened? I was in my early I was still young, but I was in my early twenties. My sister was not even 20. She was still already young. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry.

And then  how many siblings do you have? There's six of us. And we're all hearing. Wow. Yeah. You and you're all hearing. And then tell us about when they bought their house and you were 12 years old and you were the interpreter. How did that experience is that what got you into real estate?

I'm just so curious. You helped your parents buy a home. What did that experience teach you about responsibility, communication, independence. So I went into the car, was just driving there with them not knowing that I was going gonna be inter interpreter or anything. And then while they were in the room trying to understand the documents and everything, I could tell like they had no idea what was going on.

Like even if like they just had no idea. So I just jumped in and started helping and interpreting for them, and that was why I got into real estate number one. I loved it. And then I loved all that. The financial stuff and the real estate stuff. So it made me feel like I helped them get a home. And that's what I love, like doing with my clients.

Yeah, you did. They both couldn't, they didn't speak they or how does, like they're both deaf, your mom and death. Yeah, they're both deaf. So my dad was born deaf and then my mom had the chicken pox and I think the measles at nine months. So she's basically was deaf her entire life. Wow.

Yeah, there's a TV show on Netflix where the father, I can't remember what the show right now, but it was an amazing show. I can't think of it right now. Do you know which one I'm talking about? Where the father is stuff? No, I don't think I've seen that. Oh my gosh, I can't remember it right now.

It's. It was, it's excellent. I can't think of it. That's what happens when you get old. I know, right? I know that part. Yeah. So you often talk about humor and freedom and unconventional upbringings. What are some funny or unexpected moments from your childhood that shaped you? I think when my dad put the, like an alarm doorbell, that chirped like a bird for us, so we wouldn't go out and sneak out at night.

And I was thinking, oh, we could still sneak out because they can't even hear the torch chirping. Oh, that's, but it scared us though to where we'd have to stay. Like we were like, oh, maybe we shouldn't go. 'cause we could hear the doorbell chirping, but. That was really funny. That is funny. Is there anything else that stands out that was funny growing up.

I think taking, or my sister went out and this is also in the book, but my sister went out with her friends and she was riding a four wheeler, like in the middle of the night on, so they were trespassing on like Churchland or something. And so the co they got like cop by the cops and so the cops had called us and wanted to talk to her mom.

And so I pretend Rose calls me Maria. You have to like. You have to act like your mom. And so I totally act, acted like I was our mom and the cops were like, okay, as long as she has permission to be out this late, but everybody else got in trouble. Just Rose didn't. Wow. That is so funny. That is really funny actually.

I imagine there was many times, six kids. That's incredible. Yes. Sure. Yeah. We were all. And you're all involved in crazy. And we're all close. Like we're still very close. We were all each other's like best friends and we still are. Oh, that's beautiful. What's the age between you guys?

So we're, so Rose is the youngest, so her and I are six years or, yeah, so we're six years apart, so we're like two, basically like two years each. Oh, wow. So as a proud child of deaf adults, how has your identity shaped the way you show up in both your personal and professional life? I think it's showed us how to ha how to be compassionate and how to have empathy.

So everything I go for is with my heart and anything I try to help everybody is with compassion. Is it also like deep gratitude? 'Cause you Oh yes. That you can hear and talk. It's so interesting. I just, I learned sign, I remember learning sign language. I, and I really enjoyed it actually when I was younger.

I don't remember how old, but I learned some sign language. I can, yeah, it's really cool. But, so I presume your mom is gone. Yes. My mom and dad both are, my dad just passed away a couple of years ago, coincidentally, with the same cancer, which was, it was melanoma. Oh, wow. I'm sorry. So did your mom pass, like shortly after you, you had to tell her diagnosis?

Like did, were the doctors accurate with the three months thing? They were, it was two and a half months. So they said she had one to three months to live and it was two and a half. And that was how long ago for you? That was God, like over, almost 25 years ago, over 25. And then my dad lived a little bit longer with the melanoma.

Okay. And then did you guys so you helped with the doctors and all of that, Yeah. We were, yeah, we were like her soul interpreter for back then, and then with my dad. They had interpreters there, but even. It is still like when you know your parents and know that community, it's a little bit different when you are signing.

So we still had to help my dad out for that stuff too. Yeah. And then so I imagine that would bring you and your siblings even closer together actually, right? Yes. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. We're all still very close and we were all there for both my both of our parents. Yeah. So blessed to have each other really.

Oh yes. I couldn't even imagine. Yeah. That's incredible. So your book is both a Love Letter to the Death Community and a Guide for Bridging Communication Gaps. What's one key principle we can all practice today to better connect? I would say just try, if you see someone, like you could tell there's a communication barrier, just try with them.

Like you can talk on your phone, like type to them or write to them or just show them stuff. I think that, I think the motto is just try with people no matter what community everyone's in and compassion. Yes. One, 100% compassion. Yeah. Because sometimes I can't understand the person on the other line and you're like annoyed about it and you're incarcerated and instead I think just showing the person compassion yeah.

I almost think sometimes people with another I was at the pool, like a couple weeks ago. And this woman had gorgeous, she was a beautiful woman. She had these like gorgeous sunglasses and I said something like, oh, I love your sunglasses. And she says, oh, no, speak at English. Whatever she was.

And I'm like yeah, that's a good, like I, I know that they speak a little bit, but the, it's a nice don't talk to me. I don't speak don't talk to me. Yeah. I was joking with her and I just. I said, I love your glasses. And she just said, oh, I forgot what she said, but she smiled.

Like it was a joke. But I can just see how it's just easier. Like I don't, it's I know, and it brightens her day though, because you did just try to you, you brought your hand to your. The glasses. So she knew what you were talking about. And I think that makes just a, just effort is just makes a big difference.

Yeah. And she said thank you. Like she, they know simple thank you and hello. Goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. I just have I get some questions here. What are some common misconceptions about the death deaf and hard of hearing community that you'd love to correct? I feel like they think that a lot of people think that they're not as intelligent as we as hearing people are, and they are.

They're just as equal as we are. They do everything that the same the only thing they can't do is hear and they can communicate just like us, and they have, they're just as smart as us. I love that. I believe that to be true. I'm sure. So you used the term deaf gain. Can you explain what that means and why it matters for building empathy and stronger relationship?

What is deaf gain? I think that because you're you're basically on two sides of the spectrum, like the, because they can't hear, so their other set census take over. So then they see stuff better. They can read the room. Like easier because we're all like, they're, we use expressions a lot in.

Sign language and I just think that they could feel compassion and feel the room and energies a little bit differently. Yeah. Energy and things like that. I like that. That's very interesting. And it makes complete sense that if you didn't have one sense that you would, you other senses that your other.

Yeah, that takes over would be stronger. Yeah. What do you think so many people feel awkward or afraid when trying to communicate across differences and how can we shift into genuine connection instead? I think that people feel like it's unknown, so they don't know like the feedback that they're going to get.

So they're like trying to like, make them themselves not feel. Not make a mistake with them, but I think that just, yeah, just trying with them is enough. Yeah, I like that. Tell us about the LGBJ. Okay. So you also support L-G-B-Q-T. What inspired you to do that, to be my son is gay, so he came out as gay when he was 12 years old. And so I've been a big supporter in that C community because I've seen what Adrian or has been going through and things like that. And I feel like the deaf and hard of hearing community and the lgbtq plus community go hand in hand because they both just wanna feel accepted and want to just be included in things.

I not feel left out or excluded. Yeah. Is there any advice you would have for someone that has, that, has maybe something like to be ex like what it's any advice for maybe the person that. Wants to include, be inclusive, but like they don't know how. Just being kind and compassionate. Yeah. Just be kind and compassionate. That's all anybody wants, and all of us are just the same humans. We are just trying to get through this life and get through this world together. And we're all individuals, we're, we all just wanna feel our authentic self and we all just wanna be included. Yeah, I love that so much.

And I'm starting a nonprofit for young adults and I, because my son had two friends that took their lives. And I just want to raise awareness. I want the young people to know all these things, like to love themselves, to accept themselves, to find their passion, to know that they can create their lives.

And so it's really a, I have a. I'm a giant child advocate, animal advocate, and I just love helping young people know things that they don't know because they're learning from society and their caregivers or parents. So I want them to. Recognize that they have the power to create lives they love and they don't have to listen to all the noise that's out there on social media.

You know what I mean? And feel less. Oh, exactly. Because I was feeling less than my, a lot of my life and I had self-worth and self-esteem issues. So anyway, I always talk about that. But, so I do have a passion for that. And, very bad. And I think that a lot of people don't realize just the little things that you say are, can just be de like dement mental to somebody's mental health.

And I feel like you, you might just one word and because you're angry that day or you have your own opinion that can put somebody in a tailspin and not in a good place. I was one that was super sensitive and empathetic and it, and I grew up in a lot of criti criticism and judgment.

And so that's like a thing, right? So I, yeah, grown and healed and evolved. So now when someone, I know it's not about me, like we have to learn that it's not about me. Hurt people. So usually it's not about you. And like the book, the Four Agreements, are you familiar? Yeah. I love that book. Yeah's a great book.

That's a manual for life. Yeah. Don't make anything personal, don't make assumptions, all these things. And it's hard to do, but it's if you went around life and never took anything personal and recognized it's not about you, you'd be really in good, a good place. Yeah, exactly. And I just feel that they, I think a lot of people just.

I think it has hurt people who do that, but they don't they're just thinking, they're focusing on their selves instead of thinking the broader picture. Like just be kind like, just be nice, that's all like anybody else wants. Yeah. Doesn't cost anything, right? Yeah, exactly. And because we were stared at when we were kids all the time because we were signed, actually we still get stared at now if we're at a restaurant and they're like, sta staring at us when we're signing.

So when we are. We were self con or I was, I can't speak for my brothers and sisters, but I was very self-conscious of that stuff because people would always stare at me. So I get still uncomfortable when people stare and thi things like that because that's how we were raised, because people were staring all the time.

Yeah. It was different. Do you guys still sign you and your siblings? Yes. 80% of my clients are actually deaf. Deaf or hard of hearing. I do all. D different walks of clients, but Oh, that's a great news. A lot of them are. Yeah. I ca I cater to that community. That's beautiful.

Generous. Yeah. So you've built a successful real estate career serving diverse communities. How has being bilingual in the A SL and English set you apart in the industry? I think there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of agents who's actually fluent in a SL and I'm actually a Coda, so a SL is my first language.

And so I'm very I'm very. Good at it, I guess I should say. Yeah. So I'm very fluent. Yeah. And so I think that's what set sets me apart in that way. And then with the LGBTQ plus community, my son is obviously in that community, so I have compassion and I know what everyone's go going through on both sides.

I love that, that I love that so much. So I.

As someone in the top 1% of agents in Colorado, what do you believe has been the secret to your long-term success? I think that. I know I'm like a counselor for people buying and selling homes because you need to be as an agent 'cause it's one of their biggest purchases or like sales side of their entire life.

And so it's very emotional for them. So I think being raised with like honesty in integrity and like awareness, I'm able to help them through that and guide them through the process with an open heart. Yes. And then do you have a lot of referral business and do you have a team? Do you have people supporting you or you're not the one doing all the things?

Just curious. I see. Yeah. I have I, I do have a team, so we have a big team, and then my sister is on she works with me as well and she knows a SL so she, so it's easier for her to go to my clients if I'm not able to go to them. And then so I feel like having help and the whole team makes a big.

Nice. Nice. What's the average price? I'm just, this is just me. I'm just curious about the average price in your area in Colorado. Just curious, or the area, your selling point. What is your, cur I think the median now is like 700 or 5 64. I'm not sure it keeps changing, but I do all price points, so I do even land that is only 50,000 all the way up to multimillion dollar homes.

So I like, I never reject any client. Oh, that's so nice. Do you have a buyer agent that handles the buyers or are you I do both. Yeah. I do the buy side and the I try to be like. Involved on both sides. Nice. 'cause they're meeting you and they wanna be like with you, I feel and so I, if I can't be with them, I always let them know, Hey, so someone else is gonna be there, but I'm still available for you to talk to or anything.

Yeah. What advice would you give to realtors or entrepreneurs about serving niche or overlooked communities? I would say, that it's important to make them feel not overlooked and not excluded. And so I think that those communities appreciate when you are there and that you actually know the A SL or know Spanish or are involved in the C community.

I think that makes a big DI difference. Just compassion and love. Yeah. You created a SL Realty, a national platform connecting deaf and hard of hearing clients with signing agents. What problem were you solving and what has the response been like? It's huge, actually. It's na niche, right? The one thing that's hard to find is other a SL agents around.

Maybe nationwide. Yeah. So if you know anybody, let me know because I have a platform for you guys. The, so I think that it helps the other, that the clients feel like someone knows their language and is helping them out. So I think that was very important to build the na, the nationwide, because there's not just.

Devin hard of hearing people in Colorado. They're all over. It's a very huge underserved community. I just realized that. Yeah. I told you. I don't know if I said it before we hit record, but I studied that and when I was young and like I, I was just realizing I can still do the alphabet.

Oh, you can still do the a Yeah. The ABCs can still do it. Just, I can still do French and Spanish alphabet too and some counting. Yeah. Very interesting. Did you know what's different? And. All the countries all have their own. So ours is called, yeah, that's Lavia or I love you. All the countries have their own sign language, just like their own languages.

It's different throughout the country. Oh, I didn't realize. It's so interesting. That makes sense though, right? Because if we speak different language Yeah. Your motto is just try. Can you share a moment when that simple mindset changed everything for you? When I saw like someone struggling, like trying to get set something off the shelf or whatever, and they were trying to talk to somebody to try to get help, and they just was like, oh, nevermind. I don't even know how to.

How to help them like interpret. And I just went up, I'm like, here do, and they were so surprised that I knew sign language. So I just ca came up to them and just tried. I'm like, I'm sorry what do you need? And then I explained it to the worker. I'm like, they're just look looking for this product.

Yeah. What did your parents teach you about resilience and resourcefulness that you carry into your life and work today? I think, don't like resilience would be like, don't be yourself down if people are like making fun of you or saying anything as it's not. My dad always says it's not you and it's not per personal. They're the ones with the issue, not you. Yeah. Smart. That's why I always try to not to take things per personal.

What did your parents do for work? So my dad was a mechanic, so he was a mechanic for. His whole entire life. And then my mom was basically just a stay at home mom. She worked at some places here and there, but she basically just took care of us. She died very young, so she was only in her forties.

Oh, wow. That's hard. How did you handle her death? I think it was hard, I think, and I think it's hard to. Have people explain to you what's happening but not actually hear it or what was going on. Like she was bedridden for the last month. And then so I think that you already feel isolated, I feel and so for to be on like your deathbed and all you could do is wa watch tv, but it's like you don't hear anything or you don't feel, yeah.

So I think it's a little more. More difficult for them. So I'm sure it wasn't that great for her, but I mean for you handling it like, so you were like she was out of her misery basic, so you were how old when she passed? 20 years. I was in my very early twenties. Okay. But how did, how did you handle, did you just had the, you had the support of your, the siblings?

Yeah. I've had the support of the siblings and my dad. And everything like that. And then my dad soon after got married to Dixie. And Dixie was amazing and wonderful for my dad. So I think that helped because my dad and my mom were together for 32 years. And so I think having. Dixie there helped my dad, which helped me because I didn't want, wanna see my dad like, be sad or anything.

So that helped a lot, I think. So you found someone, how did he find Yes, he did so fast. How did he find I he just I think a friend introduced them like six months later or something. Interesting. Nice. Good for him. I was just watching my new show on Netflix called, it's There, it's in Colorado, so that's like interesting.

I forgot the name of it. Something about the Walter boys living with the Walter Boys or something. Anyway, it's in Colorado and it's quite beautiful. The girl moves there. She's her parents and sister die in a car crash at six. She's 16 years old and she loses her parents and her, her sister.

Oh wow. She has to go move in with her mom's friend in Colorado from New York. So it's a big change. And then she's living with all these kids anyway, they're in Colorado, so there's like horses and they live like on a farm. It's really interesting. I heard so many good things about Colorado and I literally just started watching the last two days and here I'm talking to you and you're in Colorado.

Yeah, it's neat. It's beautiful. It's a very pretty state. Yeah. So you learned financial literacy pretty early. What's one money lesson you still live by always? I think just be careful and be careful what you invest in. And usually real estate is very good to invest in because you'll have the place. If it crashes and can sit versus the stock market or things like that.

So I think just be careful with where you invest and what you buy. Okay. If someone listening wants to make their business or life more inclusive today, what's the very first step you'd suggest? I would start with. Use your heart for everything. Like just know, is this what I would want someone to do with me?

And I think that makes a big di difference. Lead with your heart. I love that. Yes. Do you have any spiritual practices that you do or like morning routines or evening routines? I do I try to me meditate in the morning, just even if it's for a minute or two, like before you touch your phone or before you do anything.

And then I love doing yoga, so I always do those too. Nice. Are you married and all that too? Yeah, I have, yeah, I have Jordan and, adrian and then he, Chris has three kids of his own, so there's five kids total. Oh, okay. Nice. And have you been in Colorado your whole life with your family?

Yeah, I was basically I was born in New Hampshire and then, so my brother, BJ and Ursula and I were born in New Hampshire, and then we moved here when we were young. And then the last three were born here in Colorado. So I was, I'm basically raised here my entire life. Nice. Nice.

Congratulations on the book. It's, you said today it hit 1% in the top. What did you say? I got the top it's number one right now and on the new bestseller list. So I got the top or number one new bestseller. Beautiful. How long did it take you to write the book? 'cause I'm writing a book too. 15 years and so yeah, it's like I've been trying to write this book for 15 years and then finally like it was on my.

Goals every year. Like I always had it on my, like for the new or the new year goals. And then this year I'm like, okay, I'm just going to have to do it. And so I started again in January and then it just now got launched, so it still took nine months. Oh, wow. Tell us what is who is the book for?

It is for it's for anybody because it's about awareness and. Being inclusive in all forms of communities. And so it's like a my love letter to the deaf community to let them know I'm gonna let everybody be aware that. There's underserved C communities and everybody just wants to be heard and just wants to be included.

Yeah. Be seen and heard. Yeah. It's beautiful. What has it been very therapeutic writing the book? What kind of tell me like writing the book, did it cause any kind of. Yeah, it definitely did because, and it was. I think that us as adults forget a lot of our childhood. So when we, when I was writing this book, I would get like a lot of memories and everything.

So I'd call like my siblings. I'm like, oh my gosh, do you remember when that happened? And then I also was asking my si, my siblings like what do you remember at this time? So yeah, I think it was very, the therapeutic and I cried when I read some of this stuff and I like wrote it so and so I know what it's going through, but when you put it together as a book, it's it's so different and it's amazing.

You should be so proud. That is so incredible. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. And so we'll let everyone know where they can find the book raised in silence and where they can find you. And I think about you like coaching agents on this, like Yeah. Like you could do that or do you do that? Yeah.

No, I don't, but I've thought about it. Yeah. It's just sometimes that might be an avenue just to. Help agents because we get lost at, especially as agents, like we get lost in the, like the shuffle and the market and the day-to-day like listings and buyers, things falling through. And we, ourselves are hard on, I feel like ourselves, when things like that fall through.

And I think that if we have a good mindset and we know that this agent and the other agent are just, they're. We all have the same goal and all of us is to get their home or sell their home and make our clients happy. And I think that if we're all like together as a community and know that we're not against each other and we're trying to help each other, I think that makes such a big difference.

Yeah. Yeah. Collaborate versus compete. Yes. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. And then lastly, what does worthy and abundant mean to you? I feel like Worthy means. That you know that you tried your best and you are giving as much as you can of yourself in a good way. And then abundance is when you get everything back to you because you were so kind and so thoughtful and helping them out.

I love that. Also, I have to say, I feel like Worthy is also like just for breathing. You're worthy. Like you're worthy as a child. Yeah. Be thankful that you're here. Yeah. Yeah. And like I don't care what your sex is, if you can hear or not. Here, you are worthy. Yes. One, I 100% agree with that. Yeah. Thank you so much for being here.

It was really a pleasure mentioned. You're welcome. I mentioned that I'm also a licensed realtor and we have that in common. Yeah. Great. I know. That's awesome. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. I wish you so much luck with your book and your future. What is next for you, Maria? Anything in the works or you wanna just put, I think nothing in the works yet, but hopefully.

And maybe I'll have a sec. Second book after this one. Yeah. Or teach or something or, yeah. And stages. Amazing. Maria, thank you so much. It was great. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. You're welcome.