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What's Actually Working in Marketing Right Now | Jon Tsourakis

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Jon Tsourakis is President and Chief Revenue Officer at Oyova,  a full-service digital agency serving clients from $3M startups to billion-dollar enterprises. He's been in digital marketing and web development for over two decades, built and scaled his own agency (Revital), and merged it into Oyova in 2019.

In this episode, Jon and I go deep on everything that actually matters if you're trying to grow a business right now: what's working in marketing, the danger of customer concentration, why most companies don't need AI (they need automation), and the one lesson that cost him the most to learn.

TIMESTAMPS: 
00:00 - Intro & Jon's background 
01:55 - First job & origin story 
03:12 - What the old internet got right (and we lost) 
05:48 - "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" - Leonardo da Vinci 
08:00 - Why Jon merged Revital into Oyova in 2019 
11:03 - What makes a great business partnership 
14:33 - Most common mistakes agencies make scaling past $3–5M 
16:35 - The customer concentration trap (the $12M agency story) 
19:22 - What's actually working in marketing right now 
22:00 - Referrals, SEO, and outbound - what converts today 
24:28 - The "vein of gold" outbound strategy 
26:07 - Account-based marketing, propinquity, and why you can't fake genuine 
29:16 - Why podcasts and live human content will command a premium 
30:52 - AI vs. automation: what most companies are actually buying 
34:31 - Particle41's 3-stage AI framework: training → automation → agents 
41:14 - SOPs vs. principles: why over-engineering process kills culture 
43:00 - Special ops culture at Particle41 
45:29 - How Oyova maintains quality with agency white-label partnerships 
50:13 - The hardest lesson (it cost the most to learn) 
53:09 - What Jon would do differently starting Oyova from scratch 
55:49 - How to hire: strong no, weak yes 
57:44 - Where to connect with Jon

Connect with Jon Tsourakis: linkedin.com/in/jontsourakis 

Benjamin Johnson, Host, Particle Accelerator Podcast & CEO, Particle41 
Connect with Benjamin on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminrjohnson/ 
Learn more about Particle41: https://particle41.com/

The Particle Accelerator is hosted by Benjamin Johnson, CEO of Particle41, an AI and software development consulting company helping businesses build scalable products, automate intelligently, and grow with technology.

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