#65 Carrie Bradshaw’s Apartment - Unpacking Iconic Homes

In this episode of Unpacking Iconic Homes, we explore one of the most famous interiors in television history: Carrie Bradshaw’s apartment from Sex and the City.

Unlike many of the homes we've covered, Carrie’s apartment isn't iconic because it was luxurious or perfectly designed. It's iconic because it conveyed Carrie's personality and a lifestyle many of us coveted. From the walk-in wardrobe and writing desk to the mismatched furniture and mint-green walls, every corner reflected the character who lived there.

We unpack why this tiny(ish) Manhattan apartment captured the imagination of an entire generation - and what it can teach us about creating homes with personality rather than perfection.

What we cover:

•  Why Carrie's apartment became as famous as the character herself 
•  The fantasy of independent city living in New York 
•  How the apartment expresses Carrie's personality
•  The famous walk-in wardrobe
•  The writing desk as the true heart of the home 
•  Mixing furniture, colours and styles without everything matching 
•  How the apartment evolved alongside Carrie throughout the series 

Design details discussed:

•  The iconic brownstone stoop 
•  Coloured walls - mint green / dusty blue / lavender / blush
•  Parquet floors
•  Layout - circular floorplan with kitchen in the middle
•  Eclectic vintage-inspired furnishings 
•  Open shelving and personal collections 
•  The writing nook at the window
•  Carrie’s walk-in closet 
•  Art, books and meaningful objects used as décor 

How to recreate this look:

• Use your books and magazines as decor
• Create a reading/writing nook by a window
• Mix furniture styles
• Add colour to rental walls (if allowed)
• Use freestanding storage

Key takeaways:

•  Our homes should express our personalities 
•  Character is more important than perfection 
•  Mixing styles can feel more authentic and interesting than matching everything 
•  Homes should evolve as your life evolves 
•  The best interiors feel personal, not staged 

This episode is a reminder that great homes don't need to be perfect - they need to feel like you.

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Transcript

 [00:00:00] Welcome to Rip It Up. Every now and then, we see a certain house that stops us in our scroll and makes us want to completely redesign our own homes. In this series, we're picking six iconic homes, some that recently went viral and some that have stood the test of time. We'll be discussing design elements, color palettes, items we love, things we would change, and breaking down how to recreate the look on a more realistic budget.

This is unpacking iconic homes 

**Jennifer:** Welcome back to the podcast, Take Eight.

**Kate:** Again?

**Jennifer:** Um, second last, penultimate in our

**Kate:** Hmm.

**Jennifer:** Iconic Home series. We got, you got loads of requests for this when you put in a shout-out

**Kate:** I'd say this is the second highest maybe.

**Jennifer:** After I think Sophie Habboo and Jamie Laing's

**Kate:** Mm-hmm.

**Jennifer:** did a few episodes ago. Go listen to it if you haven't already. Um, I'm so excited to talk about this because it's Carrie Bradshaw's apartment, um, in its many eras. Um-

**Kate:** I'm most familiar with the, the original. [00:01:00] Although I watched everything else, I've kinda like... I don't know, they didn't land with me as much. 

**Jennifer:** But we'll dive into her, like, the OG apartment, the

**Kate:** Mm.

**Jennifer:** on the Upper East Side where she sits and writes out the window and has

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** of, like, romantic flings and breakups and

**Kate:** like, um, Sex and the City is a real, like, I don't know, soft spot in my heart. 'Cause I didn't really watch it until almost, like, the end of college, I'd say. And we, we rented a place, me and three of the girls, for the summer after we finished college, and it was like, none of us were kinda working full time, so, like, someone would be at home randomly watching reruns of Sex and the City.

So even when I hear that intro music, you know, the doo, doo, doo-doo, I'm like, "Oh my God, it takes me back to that summer so much." So it's like, yeah. When I was looking at these photos again to record this, I was like, "Oh my God, I must watch that from the start again."

**Jennifer:** I can't believe how long ago it was. It doesn't even feel that old to me. I used to watch it in, in school, in secondary school. [00:02:00] Um, I remember my boyfriend at the time, poor fella, he's the nicest man ever, boy, and I think he used to buy me the DVDs and, like, just really indulge my ... Which is very forward-thinking of, like, a, for a 16 or 17-year-old back in, like, '99 or 2000, whatever it was. it was the one-

**Kate:** I can't say I was ever into the apartment, but definitely into like the feeling the apartment gave or that like New York life. Like everyone wanted to do that, and it was like, I don't know, it was just really like empowering or something.

Like her having the apartment by herself in New York, it was just like, you were like, "Maybe I can just move to New York by myself and get one of these apartments."

**Jennifer:** Yeah. And w- definitely we couldn't. Like, it just was not

**Kate:** No,

**Jennifer:** option.

**Kate:** couldn't

**Jennifer:** way. Like, I know, and I know there were so many New York shows at the time that had completely unrealistic apartment expectations.

**Kate:** yeah, yeah. That and Friends.

**Jennifer:** Yeah, that and Friends. Um, but it, yeah, you're so right. Like, there's nothing in the apartment except maybe the wardrobe.

[00:03:00] I love the way she had kind of a corridor walk-in wardrobe.

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** and probably the desk. Like, there was a lot to be said about that desk and the window. But you're so right, like, none of the rest of it was, you know, particularly beautiful.

**Kate:** But i, I think it was, it was a really good, uh, it was a really good way of looking at, like, renting an apartment and how you can make it your own, and how much personality and character she gave a house, or an apartment there, without owning it, and without doing major decoration work.

**Jennifer:** Yeah

**Kate:** Like, as in it was all her stuff,

and it was all, like, bits she had collected through the years, and her personality was all over it. It was like, you know, her books and magazines and all her clothes and, like, photos up on the wall, and it was kind of a bit chaotic, but also, I don't know, just it was his personality, I think

**Jennifer:** Yeah, there was a jumble of stuff, and you pointed this out when we were prepping for this, is that the walls were bright colors.

**Kate:** Yeah.

**Jennifer:** Friends apartment, like, the bo-

**Kate:** Hmm

**Jennifer:** the final episode, Joey being like, "Was it always purple?" [00:04:00] But the, like, the walls in Carrie's apartment are kind of pink.

They're green. If anyone watched the movie, she did a whole redesign after, after she got left at the altar by Big, and it was blue. Like, a really

**Kate:** That was horrendous. Like, I'm just gonna gloss over that 'cause it was so bad. It was so bad. But, like, the original, I think, like, was it her bedroom kind of lavendery bluish maybe? Like even duck egg blue or something like that?

**Jennifer:** Yeah. I'll share out some

**Kate:** it depends, it, it depends on the photos you look at. On, like, some photos reference it as, like, duck egg blue or robin egg blue or something like that, and then some are, like, pinkish lavendery.

It depends on, like, the apartment or the picture you see. But, like, I love... That bedroom is so... I think everything in this apartment is so girly, even though it's not overtly, like, girly girl pink pink. It's just, like, everything is girlish. Like, the, the stuff, the different chairs, and the bedside tables, and all her magazines, and all her stuff, and all her makeup in the bathroom, and it's just like it [00:05:00] was all her space, do you know?

And I think, I think that's why people have such a soft spot for it

**Jennifer:** There isn't a clear surface in this entire apartment. Like, there's stacks of books, obviously magazines. She's a writer. stacks of, like, there's a shopping bag somewhere. There's

**Kate:** Hmm.

**Jennifer:** cartons all over the place. There's a, a phone top of a stack of books, on top of some clearly, like, thrifted chair. You

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** kind of chipped paint, kind of peeling chair. shelves, again, kind of groaning under the weight of stacks of, of books. And you're, you, but you're so right, it's all her personality. Nothing matches at all. Like, there's such an eclectic collection of, um, one bedside locker, on one side

**Kate:** Yeah, like almost like a very kind of mid-cen- There's a few mid-century kind of pieces in this apartment, I think, but it's very kind of functional. Just one, 'cause that's all she needs. The bed's kind of nestled into a little alcove or kind of a step in the wall where the shelves are built in. It's also kind of, it's all born out of [00:06:00] necessity, I think.

Like, the, even the photos are, like, off center to the bed, and the shelves are off on one side. It's just, like, bits as she needs them, but they're still probably bits that all have a little story or where she picked them up or something. You know, they're not ugly pieces, any of them, but they're not cohesive as a style

**Jennifer:** There's a lot in reach from the bed, which again

**Kate:** Mm-hmm.

**Jennifer:** thing. When you're living in, like she probably spends half her days, you know, it, like the bedroom is almost in the living room, which is in the kitchen. Like it's not a very

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** to be 600 square meters or square feet, which actually isn't, around about 60 square meters.

Like, that's the size of my house, and I know my house is tiny, but it's not teeny-tiny. Like, that's a

**Kate:** Yeah.

**Jennifer:** apartment, you know?

**Kate:** But you see some of the websites show a kind of floor plan layout of it, that it's almost like a full circle,

**Jennifer:** If

**Kate:** that you come in one door.

**Jennifer:** up on the, on the screen. Um, I found this on Reddit. Yeah, go on.

**Kate:** I think I, I just think this is such a... I've never seen an, an actual apartment laid out like this, but like a full, you can do a full lap of the [00:07:00] place, you know, in one door and out the other, which I think is quite cool. The walk-through closet, and then the kind of bathroom that's kind of double-sided. I like, I love the idea of it, and it's a lovely idea for a one-bed or a studio apartment, but it's still, it's still pretty generous I would think for a, a studio or a one-bed apartment in New York.

**Jennifer:** Yeah, it is. Now, the, there is no kind of separated bedroom. I guess she probably could have

**Kate:** 嗯。

**Jennifer:** up there in between, where her writing

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** area is, you know, as opposed to having the bed out on, on display the whole time. Um, so I guess that's, like, a nod to the, you know, how small it is. Um, I love the way they have the kitchen in the center there. That's a very clever way to do it

**Kate:** And no, like, dining table, which I think is really interesting

**Jennifer:** Yeah, but did she ever, ever have one meal in that whole

**Kate:** Exactly. Like

**Jennifer:** was

**Kate:** would s-

**Jennifer:** takeout carton

**Kate:** I would say if anything in this apartment is not aspirational, it's the kitchen, 'cause it's kind of wrecked, it's kind of old, it's kind of basic, and like shitty kind of cooker or whatever. You know, it's like, I [00:08:00] think it's actually kind of whitish or off-white, is it? It shows, it shows different color in different pictures.

But, um, I think it's just a nod to like, "I'm not cooking. I'm not, like, staying in the house. I'm getting dolled up and heading out."

**Jennifer:** There's a

**Kate:** That's why I think it's like a-

**Jennifer:** and then there's all these, there's not great, like, fluorescent kind of lights under the countertop. You're, you're right. The one thing I do like about it is it has that kind of traditional New York checkerboard

**Kate:** Or, yeah

**Jennifer:** it's maybe not the best example of what I love in a checkerboard floor, but it's there, you know? Um, I don't

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** has a microwave. Like, she just never... Like, that kitchen was just superfluous to her

**Kate:** Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely

**Jennifer:** to keep a bottle of wine cold and

**Kate:** Yes.

**Jennifer:** I

**Kate:** Exactly. I love, I love the entrance actually, the, um, the, the kind of bookshelves, but they're actually... I, I read somewhere they're full of magazines, not books

**Jennifer:** Oh, well that makes sense. I guess she writes for

**Kate:** Which, yeah, but which is like a nod to like how many she must have, you know, thousands, literally thousands stacked up there.

So stuff like that, you know, nothing is for kind [00:09:00] of display only purposes. They're actually all her stuff.

**Jennifer:** And I like that. I quite like a display of magazines. And that

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** I look closely, her magazines are in little holders. Like, you know,

**Kate:** Hmm

**Jennifer:** little holders with, with little labels on them. But overall, that look of a, of a full-length bookshelf in a entranceway, I just

**Kate:** Love it. Love it. Yeah. The, the f- the floors as

**Jennifer:** that.

**Kate:** well.

**Jennifer:** it's so nice just to go and browse someone's personality. Mm.

**Kate:** Like, 'cause they're dark wood all, all, dark, dark wood shelving, but also dark wood floors. I think you can s- you can't really see it in this picture, but you can see it in some other ones, that it's actually parquet, like, uh, herringbone parquet. And I think that's pretty... That, ugh, don't go to the, uh-

**Jennifer:** The blue, I've gone too far.

**Kate:** No, too far.

**Jennifer:** wood, dark wood floor is, yeah,

**Kate:** Which is fairly standard for some of those old apartments and kind of brownstone buildings and stuff, or it would've been.

**Jennifer:** pretty

**Kate:** that adds character by itself. Yeah. Yeah. It's [00:10:00] so true

**Jennifer:** Yeah. Um, one thing that's ... So all of this, right, I think if you are renting an apartment, which she was, is pretty achievable to the average renter. Now, I'm not, we're not necessarily saying you might want to achieve this look yourself, but there's a lot to be said for, like, she Just going back to the walls for a second, obviously she's painted the walls, you know, either green or this kind of powdery, pretty, you know, robust blue in her revamp. Um, or a kind of a pinky, lavendery color in some other, uh, in some other earlier episodes. And it's possible that you can't do that in your apartment if you're renting, but it's possible that you

**Kate:** Mm.

**Jennifer:** worth getting in touch with your landlord, and seeing if they would be open to it, or if they would be open to you doing it. You might have to paint it back to a neutral color before you move out. But if you're somewhere for the long haul, it's definitely worth checking, 'cause it makes such a, a big difference as opposed to just whatever,

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** they've probably slapped up themselves, you know?

**Kate:** And with the new rules now, aren't people, you know, entitled [00:11:00] to a five or six-year lease or something? So it might be the time to ask if you've just signed a new lease. But that apart, or that, that wardrobe, the walk-through wardrobe was interesting 'cause that kinda dusty blue, it's almost like Farrow & Ball Denims.

I think we were talking about that. Were we in, in Athena Calderone?

**Jennifer:** I

**Kate:** Or

**Jennifer:** it. I love it so

**Kate:** is it d- like Denims or Railings? Probably not as dark as Railings, but like

**Jennifer:** just saying,

**Kate:** it's probably Denims or something. Well, it's probably not Denims 'cause it was so long ago, but it's like Denims.

**Jennifer:** Yeah.

**Kate:** So she's a bit of a trendsetter from that point of view

**Jennifer:** Yeah, it's a beautiful kind of powdery, not... It's dark enough. It's kind of a grayish blue. I

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** it. I think it's so fun, and that walk-in wardrobe, like how many times do we see her go in and go out, and like try stuff on

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** and it's just such a mess of like scarves and things like spilling out of drawers, and handbags everywhere, and like feather boas and sequins all over the place. Um,

**Kate:** And the color's probably, like, unimportant here, isn't it? Like, [00:12:00] the, uh, the clothes are front and center here, the clothes and the shoes

**Jennifer:** They do, but they look good against it, so I kinda

**Kate:** Yeah, they do. They do

**Jennifer:** cocooning space to walk into. Um, one thing I'm not seeing in this picture is a full-length mirror. I wonder, does she have one? 'Cause I don't see one anywhere in the apartment, and there's no way that Carrie Bradshaw did not have a full-length mirror.

**Kate:** That doesn't even make sense

**Jennifer:** no, it doesn't even make sense. Um, but again, I just love ... It's a nod to the layout, and, like, I do think in Ireland, like, to go back to that floor plan, you certainly would never have a corridor of a walk-in wardrobe. And, like, to go back to that floor plan, it's a very clever, well-laid-out use of space.

'Cause we just tend to

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** against walls, like the kitchen against a wall, you know, couch against a wall, dining table against a wall, and then some mad long kinda entrance corridor that's not that useful. Um, I don't know really what the takeaway is, because you can't knock and turn walls if you're renting your apartment.

**Kate:** Yeah, yeah

**Jennifer:** you can transform some spaces, like maybe there's kind of a long unused corridor [00:13:00] somewhere that you can, you know, fill with freestanding clothing rails or, or freestanding bookshelves or something like that, um, and just make what's otherwise kind of, yeah, pokey

**Kate:** Bathroom. W- what do you think about the bathroom here? Like, because I think the ba- the bathroom is, is very classic New York. It's just metro tiles, trim tiles, and then just, you know, traditional kind of fittings, built-in bath. There's nothing kind of fancy about it. It's fine. It's again, functional, kind of like the kitchen.

**Jennifer:** Yeah

**Kate:** but again, full of makeup and perfume or whatever, all out on display whenever you see it

**Jennifer:** Yeah, like a little trolley, a freestanding trolley thing. Hair straighteners plugged in which obviously we can't do here, but yeah. And a

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** and as we all know, I love a bath, but she certainly did as well. Um, yeah. But you're right, there, I mean, it's, it's just full of stuff and character, and I don't know if that's necessarily recreatable by everyone, because she

**Kate:** No

**Jennifer:** [00:14:00] style and loves, you know, collecting beautiful things and spends a lot of time doing it. But there is a lot to be said for mixing and matching lots of different style pieces, lots of different eras, different finishes and colors, and kind of arranging them together for having your personalit- personality out on display. Like, okay, the kitchen aside, there's, everything is open shelving, everything is out on display.

Like, her, her whole life, you know, as a character, she really wears her heart on her sleeve, and I think that's very much conveyed in this and her whole life is, is out there, and that's really nice. Like, I really

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** I, it makes me like it instantly, even if it's, not an apartment I remember for its interior design

**Kate:** I think it's interesting because, like you said, it's her personality on display. It's not, um, it's not decoration as st- as such. Like, there's no horrible decor choices until they went with this blue. But like, the, the original, I don't... Like, there's some ni- there's a nice chaise. There's that gorgeous leather chair, the [00:15:00] Aiden chair that was there even after they broke up.

And then there's, do you know, there's the, the lovely mid-century bedside table. There's a lovely bench at the foot of the bed. I read somewhere that the purple bedding is actually, like, Calvin Klein or something. So, like, it is, like, some nice pieces.

**Jennifer:** Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

**Kate:** but it's, it's, like you said, it's just her personality overlaid on all of that makes it kinda come alive, and that's what I think, like, people shouldn't be afraid to do, especially if they're renting.

Their stuff is the decor here if they don't wanna be, you know, spending on someone else's apartment

**Jennifer:** Yeah, your stuff, shelving, freestanding, you know, nicely collect- like, not, don't just go straight to IKEA. Like, you know, spend a bit of time just looking around for bits that you like, and don't worry about them all matching too

**Kate:** Hmm

**Jennifer:** Um, I think another massive feature here, it's not a, it's not a bright apartment, but the window features so heavily, and she always

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** up against the window, and she's writing against that desk. like, that is iconic. Like, that, you know, I think that

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** so many people, [00:16:00] um, of sitting and looking out at New York, and I love that. I'm actually currently sitting at a desk that's pushed up against in a winter today. I've still been influenced by, uh, by Sex and the City after all these years, potentially. most likely, I would say. Um,

**Kate:** We talk about the rugs. What about the rugs? Like, okay, so this blue one, I just have to discard it from my memory 'cause it's actually, like, offensively ugly, the, the, the rebrand. And then she went back again, didn't she, to the original kind of style more or less. But I think the rug in her kind of original bedroom, it's quite different.

It's almost like tribal kinda Aztecy kind of print or something, or pattern in it.

**Jennifer:** Yeah

**Kate:** like a stripe, but it's, it's very different to everything else. Again, it looks like something she just found or got for cheap or it was there or something like... It, it doesn't seem like it, it matches with anything else.

But for some weird reason, it still kinda works

**Jennifer:** Yeah, it does. It all works. Yeah, the patterns all do work. I [00:17:00] wanna talk about the, the revamp for a minute, 'cause in the first movie, after she gets left at the altar, or she thinks she gets left at the altar by Big, spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen the movie, um, the... She hires an interior designer, she dyes her hair brown, and she does all the classic, you know, Heartbreak things, and she gets the apartment completely redone, and it's painted in this blue, which...

I'm looking at photos here that I got from House and Home Magazine, and I don't love the blue, but I remember loving it in, at the time, that it was such a cool blue. But I hate it now that I see it again. But her personality is gone. Like, all the pictures on the wall have now been organized into this gallery wall.

All the stacks of magazines are gone. The books are all gone. the phone in the bed is gone. Um, anything hi- higgledy-piggledy has been replaced by kind of a more cohesive chrome and whatever, stylish kind of bits of furniture. There's, like, a TV now and all, you know, everything's looking really bland.

The

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** of the most horrible things I've ever seen in real life, [00:18:00] um, even though I know that that is, um, a very expensive designer rug, and I hate it. I hate it so much now that I see it again. Like, there's just no personality there

**Kate:** Disgusting. Like, it might have been like a bit of a higgledy-piggledy design to begin with, but this is, like, so all over the place. It's disgusting

**Jennifer:** shiny flat pack finish on everything. Like, it's just ugh, not for me

**Kate:** No. Now what about if you kept watching on, onto the TV show after all the movies and stuff and just like that? Like, I can't say I loved the show. I watched it to the end, but, like, I have to say I loved her apartment with Big. Very mature and, like, I don't know, polished compared to her first one, which is kind of a reflection of their life together maybe.

**Jennifer:** It was amazing. It was amazing.

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** wa- it had 16 rooms,

**Kate:** Oh, Jesus

**Jennifer:** bathrooms, two powder rooms. Um, obviously the most famous walk-in closet [00:19:00] where her Manolo Blahnik shoes are left, that reunites her, big. All these views, this kind of central garden space. Do you remember that? Um,

**Kate:** yeah, yeah.

**Jennifer:** and

**Kate:** It's

**Jennifer:** Apparently it was, reportedly it was shot at 1010 Fifth Avenue, but the interior scenes, there's, is the William Ziegler Mansion at East, uh, 63rd Street on the Upper East Side. So apparently it's real, and the apartment is still, you know, it exists. It's a real thing, which is pretty phenomenal.

**Kate:** Very expensive, no doubt

**Jennifer:** pretty bloody expensive. But I loved it. I loved the... There was so much paneling going on in that apartment. There was so much, you know, cornicing and ar- architraves, and, like, a lot of, depth and texture all over the

**Kate:** Yeah.

**Jennifer:** Um,

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** was amazing. The central, whatever, garden, roof garden thing was phenomenal. Um, it, and it was still somehow really cozy and warm, you know?

**Kate:** Yeah, it was all the brown and everything. I just thought it was so nice. It was so nice. It was definitely an [00:20:00] apartment that I'd consider having an apartment for rather than a house. I just thought it was so nice.

**Jennifer:** Yeah, agreed

**Kate:** but they... Then moving on to her Gramercy. Oh, the Tribeca loft. Oh my God, that was her in- No, no, not for me, no

**Jennifer:** I don't even... I'm just gonna brush right past it.

**Kate:** No, like, but the Gramercy Park townhouse, oh my God, like that house is to die for, no?

**Jennifer:** She moves in with Aidan. Uh, w- yeah, Aidan, right? Yeah. Who, ugh, he just

**Kate:** But she moves, she's on her own for a while, right, before she gets back with Aidan, but oh my God, this house is unbelievable

**Jennifer:** And she gets to this house. He is, he's got all these kids, and these, these sons, and it, it's a big family. But I read a really interesting thing, um, in Elle Decor that it was really very intentionally des- obviously, all of these apartments are incredibly intentionally designed, and as we said, they really reflect her personality and what she's going through at the time. Um, and this one in particular, the goal was to make her [00:21:00] feel really small, really insignificant. Um, the showrunner, Michael Patrick King, described it as a... Or sorry, the production designer, Miguel Lopez-Castillo, described it as a dollhouse that's too big. had all these, you know, original, um, features, kind of oven and kitchen, and not necessarily old-fashioned, but nothing modern and empowering at all.

And it was very much designed to make her feel swamped, insignificant, a little bit powerless. I just think that's really clever.

**Kate:** Yeah.

**Jennifer:** clever. Yeah

**Kate:** Yeah. It was a beautiful house, but like for one person knocking around doesn't make massive amount of sense

**Jennifer:** Yeah. I mean, I would take it. Don't get me wrong. If I was taking

**Kate:** I would

**Jennifer:** I'd

**Kate:** absolutely take it

**Jennifer:** think I'm with you. If I was taking anything, I'd take the apartment she had with Big. Although there's

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** be a pretty significant part of me that would live in her original apartment happily ever after

**Kate:** Well, if I'm on my own, yeah, if I was on my own, I probably would.

**Jennifer:** As a writer, which I

**Kate:** I don't want to, I don't want to be maintaining something with 16 rooms if I'm living on my own.

**Jennifer:** Oh [00:22:00] my God, the stress of it. Are you kidding me? I

**Kate:** And then going to bed every night, checking every room, checking every window's closed. No. No, thanks

**Jennifer:** no, I would not. No, it's just not for me.

**Kate:** No

**Jennifer:** so that's it. So we l- I mean, I love them all. Um,

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** for me it's her original apartment. The steps, the steps to the apartment, the

**Kate:** Mm-hmm.

**Jennifer:** writing, where she's smoking, where she's shouting at various boyfriends down to her friends or whatever.

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** it's just so iconic. I would live there

**Kate:** Yeah, and I think what we can take away from this is it's a feeling rather than the decor here. Like, and the feeling is her personality coming through in spades, like across that whole apartment.

**Jennifer:** Yeah

**Kate:** of that, like, personality is like, "I don't cook and fuck it. I don't need a kitchen. Why do I need a dining table?

I'm not gonna eat here. I'm not gonna," you know? And I love that, like, that kind of certainty of that apartment, which is really cool

**Jennifer:** Yeah. Yeah, I absolutely love it as well. It's, it's

**Kate:** Hmm.

**Jennifer:** and that's a huge, there's a huge lesson to be learned from that[00:23:00] 

**Kate:** I feel like I wanna go back and watch them all again now from the get-go. Not the movies really, but just the show

**Jennifer:** When I was living in London years ago, there was this, um, salon, I think, is it The Cowshed? And you would sit, and they just had TVs everywhere that played Sex and the City on repeat, and it's the only place I ever went to get my nails done because I'd just go for a bit of escapism

**Kate:** we'll put some of the detail maybe in the show notes and how you can create it if you want to try and guess those colors and finishes and stuff

**Jennifer:** Yeah, we'd love to hear if you know, if you know what the colors are, if you've... Yeah,

**Kate:** And then just go thrifting for the rest of the furniture

**Jennifer:** That's the key, isn't it? Just collect stuff. Go thrifting. Like, pick up stuff that you really like that speaks to you. Don't worry too much about whether goes. Try it out, you know? Leave it out for

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** to collect if it doesn't work out.

**Kate:** Yeah

**Jennifer:** That's the lesson. Okay.

**Kate:** And that's it.

**Jennifer:** We'll

**Kate:** Okay. We'll talk to you next week.

**Jennifer:** we'll see you next week

**Kate:** Just like that. Bye

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