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Ep 221 Tuesday Night Music Club
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What do you get when you take an existing band, add 3 more members and become a tribute band? You get Tuesday Night Music Club - A Tribute To Sheryl Crow. Four of the members stopped by the studio to let us know how this all cam about.
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Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois rock and roll museum on route 66. It's the rock and roll Chicago podcast Hey everybody, it's Ray the roadie and this is Hollywood Mike for the first time in 2025 It is the first time in 2025 it is and I was almost late. I was here with one minute to spare Well, that's usually a time you show up.
I know if I was running around like crazy today. Yeah, what were you doing today? What was I doing today? I went to the dentist. Oh, no.
Yep. Got my teats cleaned your tea. Oh just cleaned.
Mm-hmm Okay. All right. That's cool.
And then I did work at home all day. He did say he got his teats cleaned. Mm-hmm.
Yeah He got his teats cleaned over by there, yeah, that's right. Yeah now I was running all over the place I had 10 minutes to spare and I flew here. I got here.
Well, thanks for showing up. Yeah Well, I mean normally it takes me about 15 minutes, but today it took me 10 minutes as the crow flies. Okay We should make it in no time because the bridges are all frozen.
I know that it's true. They won't be opening up We're gonna try that Segway one more time. I made it here in 10 minutes as the crow flies as the crow Why would you say that because of who we have in the studio here tonight, they all look like crows they do.
Yeah magpies magpies That's a golden jackal they were magpies. No, I think what we have here What are we the Tuesday night music club the crocheting crocheting club or some crochet? Croatian Which is a wonderful place in Joliet, yes, we play there many times. It's a lot of fun It's good Tuesday night music club.
Yes, it is. How y'all doing today? Cheryl crow I Every one of them has been here before and I believe Greg has tied Brian McKenna. He has time Wow, okay in a frog band no Far too amphibian ribbit.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay interesting man.
So before we get everything started I got a couple of things that I have to say number one When I was can you believe this? It's been Cheryl crow has been an artist for 25 years It's all well Business for longer than that because she was a backup singer for Michael Jackson was I didn't know that yeah She was she was a backup singer for Michael Jackson And there was a she actually was the voice on a duet that he did off of them I think the bad album and I can't think of the name of right now We'll have to grab our phones and look at it real quick. But yeah, she started off as as a backup singer for Michael Jackson Absolutely and and the the cool thing about Cheryl crow for me is I don't know what it is I used to think she was like so hot I did I like But I'll tell you what there's another thing You guys are here this is a very the day this date is a very important day Not only for music history since last year. We're here.
We have a podcast historian. Yes This is not necessarily just for music in rock and roll history this day in rock and roll history. Oh There she is.
Yeah. Yeah, she's still smoking hot Cheryl crow confirmed so yeah, so this day in rock and roll history in 2005 in 2005 you know what happened in 2005 What happened in 2005 all of the music that has now become known as rock and roll music? and the reason why I say that is because I don't think the term rock and roll was coined until Gosh who was it? It was um Hell, that's good. No Johnny be good Chuck Berry, you know, there was a DJ out of Ohio that said this is rock and roll really but prior to that Guys like Bill Haley in the Comets.
Nobody really knew what to call that music, right? Then in 2005 all of his music became public domain 50 years 50 years And it was because of that then and it took this long It took it took up until 2013 for them to say, you know what we have to make all of these copyright Expiration dates universal across the world as much as we can it still is not but it's got closer But yeah, it was 50 years and to the end because of that incident because everybody was all up in arms about oh my god How can we make bill? How come we can make bill Haley's music public domain? You know, he was such an important asset That's when it got changed to 70 years after the artist's death. Really? Yes Yeah, 70 years, but it's still only 70 years. I believe in Europe 70 years period in Europe from beginning to end Yeah, but that's important.
I mean it is I mean think about that, you know Think about artists like the Rolling Stones. Mm-hmm, you know that far outlived their music and you're thinking, okay I'm gonna live in my retirement years, although they never retired No living off of residuals, but if it becomes public domain all of a sudden it's like your checks stop coming Well Keith Richards will never die. Yeah I've got a picture of him teaching guitar to Willie Nelson Willie Nelson was five But anyways, I guess I guess that showed up on my home page when I logged into the Internet this morning It's very interesting.
Very interesting. Thank you for that. I don't know a whole lot about it cuz I'm not a lawyer I pay a guy that knows that okay, but that's pretty important.
That's very good. Hopefully that affects everybody here Yeah, all our songwriting. Yeah Won't be public domain till like 2100 then I guess cuz she's still kicking it right now.
Yeah But that's super important if you're an amateur musician or an amateur songwriter and everybody everybody we talked to says Oh, yeah, I just write out the music and write out the lyrics and I mail it to myself Okay, great. That might keep people from stealing your songs right now But what if that one song becomes what if somebody picks up that one song as like a commercial jingle? Yeah. Oh, yeah You know, yep.
It's important to do it and it doesn't cost much to do it No, and every time you hear that commercial they're getting paid. They're getting paid. Yes So that's your public service announcement for the day now.
Let's get back to the So who put this whole thing together, I think it was Chris So that we have there's seven numbers in this band and So the three of us and then Chris Ricardo who was here in the episode one Episode 120 So, I think he had came to us with the opportunity to play at Reggie's Doing the album night right like what they have Thursday night album nights classic album nights Okay, and so we I agreed he's like listen to show crows on Tuesday night music club album and see if you can do it I was like, all right for a one-off. Sure Like let's do it and now so you learned all of the songs on that one out, right? I don't want it from front to back and We did that and then we kind of came off the stage and we're like, well, that was kind of good And then all of a sudden it just kind of we got booked three months later With JLP. Oh, so it was just cut.
It's kind of kept growing from there, right? Right, you guys started and and you guys were called up said let's let's play this entire out And was it the album Tuesday night music club? Yeah album Yeah, and was that was that the open that had like if it makes you happy was that her first album? Okay, right yeah, yeah, you know the crazy thing about that song for me is I was like in my early 20s and I was a personal trainer at a little health club in in Schaumburg And everybody that walked in Wanted to hear that album in its entirety. I I have no idea why but yeah because they all wanted to you know We had the we had this these are days We had stereos and cd players and all that and somebody brought it in and said here just keep it here Everybody loves this so people would walk in and say hey put it on the cheryl crow album So i'd stick the cd in and the whole thing would play for an hour or whatever well, yeah, it's a good album from It's very from start to finish. Um, and yeah, all I want to do is the first like big hit off of it Um, but yeah, so then we we got um another show lined up a couple months later at sundance I think maybe we played with jack crows there.
Yeah. Yeah a night of the crows basically was our tagline. Yes Very corny so the band was called wait, what was it called? It was jack crow Well, it was jack tripper and they were doing uh, the black crows so a night across Jack tripper.
Yeah Um, so yeah, just knock down our door. Yeah, oh boy Sorry about that, it's okay We don't let him talk very often But he has such a good voice Yeah Um, but yeah, we basically once we went on from the first time we were like Well, let's just pick the best cheryl crow songs like enough with this full album because the first album has got some duds on it Not duds, but yeah, it's just Like for the audience could be duds and so we decided to kind of She has so much material we're like let's start picking all the good songs and make 90 minutes of all of her best hits So that's kind of what we've grown into. Well, so that was your very first show When was that what when did that take place november of 23, I checked it I knew you would ask It was our one-year anniversary.
We just have So of 23. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So you guys have been doing this for about a year or so And have you played quite a few shows doing that? I think there was five. Yeah, and one of them wasn't a milwaukee show that Didn't work out.
Have you ever heard of shankhall up there? I have yes, I did. Um, you know, i'll let greg elaborate this story I mean shankhall is synonymous with spinal tap. That's like the the little uh, Uh stone hedge a little stone hedge there.
Okay, but yeah, uh, we booked uh a thing with jagged little pill. They're uh, uh, they're a uh Alanis morissette tribute, uh, and uh, yeah, we got up there. I just got sound checked.
We were all ready to go and the plumbing backed up Oh Wow Yeah, so and they already had some people in line. So Uh, they let those six or seven people in and we each played one song or two songs something like that and then Called it off and spent the rest of the night milwaukee Yeah as a singer that couldn't have been pleasant. You're taking these big gulps of air in and just smelling raw sewage.
Yeah Oh god, great. Yeah The worst part though is that his wife had to like shop help shop back. She didn't have to she like I just we're sound checking.
I look and there's there's beth and back Like i'm like, she's a go-getter. What is she doing back there? Like, yep. Yeah, she was cleaning Your wife is does sound for you guys.
She does. Yeah, I own a production company named bbkf productions, right? Right. And uh, yeah, so she was with me that night.
Uh, just kind of hanging out but but she doesn't take time off She doesn't know how to not do something So if there's a crisis disaster, I must get the job back If there's any production companies out there looking for sponsorships we have sponsorships available available Yes, I will have to look into that. Yeah for our company Be happy to yeah, right. Yeah, it was We've got a reschedule now for April april.
Yeah coming up april 5th. I think it's so I mean ironically that you said isn't that ironic Don't you think it's ironic because because that they played with uh with an alanis morissette tribute band Because alanis morissette also began her career as a backup singer for michael jackson I know a lot of that stuff you do Wow, you'd be good on jeopardy Not really. I've tried only for the michael jackson category as long as it's stupid music shit that nobody cares about.
Yeah, I do great Can you see that? Yeah, i'll take stupid music trivia for a thousand People who starts people who performed at michael jackson for 200 Oh, that's a lot of people That's a lot of people. We're calling all of toto. Yeah, right.
Emmanuel lewis. Yep But yeah, the project was basically like born just because we enjoy playing with each other. Yeah, like that sounded dirty, but um That's okay musically music.
Yes, indeed And um, I think we just wanted to evolve into something and it's it's actually been really fun and challenging for me I mean, I feel like I don't know if that's for you guys totally challenging totally challenging for me because uh Once I got punched I played bass and then this is the first band i've actually played guitar in Oh, wow, and that's kind of that's kind of a funny story how that how that started too. I played guitar I mean, I played my guitar my whole life, but at greg's birthday party It was just it was a it was a great time. Um, it was basically uh sucker punch You know, I played some songs and there was a big sign-up sheet a whole bunch of people could come up You play bass and sucker punch.
I play bass and sucker. Okay. Yes.
All right So, um, we had a list and people were putting songs down now, you know when i'm, you know Listening to bon jovi, you know, one of the first songs to learn on guitar was wanted dead or alive You know because you got to learn how to play So and i've always done i've always that's always played that song and so when the list came up I forgot who came up, but they put that song and there's no guitar player Oh and chris was like, I know how to play it. He's like, I don't know how to play that song. So so And to be honest, you know, there's so many talented people that greg knows that come to hang out It can be a little bit intimidating So a lot of it.
Yeah, so i'm just like, you know what i'm just gonna i'm just gonna go for it And now it was that kind of night, right? Now I did the I did the richie sanburro. So no justice at all. It's just like okay blues box Okay, here it comes but it was it was cool.
And I think it was actually because of that I mean, they never saw me play guitar before. I had no idea. I was like wait a tick, right? So just from that um, because chris was playing and there wasn't us and rob Fantastic bass player from jagalopo a bunch of other projects.
He was playing bass, but um, They asked if I wanted to play guitar So i'm like so that's a situation where i'm kind of like stretching out of my comfort zone Yeah, but I tried it and it's you know, I haven't kicked out yet Why not So this is another important day in rock and roll history We actually saw a bass player get promoted to guitars instead of the worst guitar player getting demoted to basically exactly. Yeah Yeah, well that's good. Well, so so what do you prefer Bass, um, yeah bases, you know that that's that's kind of where I've you know, that's where I made my bones But he's longingly staring at rob the whole time because In a way just a man big man crush playing totally because he's such a great bass player You know, we're on the same side of the stage.
Yeah, all of a sudden he'll do he'll do some juicy lick I'll be like, oh, yeah, I dig that You're like shit. I don't know where I belong now Well, that's good, that's good did you when uh when you first started playing did you start playing bass guitar Did you start on guitar or I started I started on guitar? But then I think you know for me coming up there was an opportunity in high school to play jazz band So that's kind of where I started and I just kind of say but I mean, I always play guitar I mean, I write original stuff. So, okay, you know, you play guitar and you know what I mean? So right but um, so make use of that whole copyright thing.
Yes Duly noted. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
So who was the uh, who was the next person that I guess that joined the band? How did it all well, so it was the four of us, right? You can go. Oh, uh trying to think how this all evolved from there. Um It was really rob was the one who put together the gig because he has the contact, uh, I think mitch over at uh, Reggie's so he kind of put it together asked ricardo about it ricardo reached out to me And jen, um, then we mentioned we needed a second guitar got mike.
Um, Yeah, and then we got uh, a background vocalist laura leiden that came later though. Yeah, because we had andy Oh, that's right. Do we not have one on the first gig? No.
Okay. Yeah, so she came after that um, but yeah, we put that all together and Literally, we finished the gig and I looked at my phone and I had a message from pete durbin Who's the drummer in jlp and he's like hey, uh sunday in saloon wants to have you I was like wow I guess we're in a band now. It's not just a one-off thing.
Wow. We started a band So yeah, and that's how a lot of these things tend to happen. Well, of course.
Yeah, why the heck not? Yeah, so what's the uh, what's the reception like? uh Because i'm curious because you know Cheryl crow appeals to a lot of different people for a lot of different reasons and i'm wondering what your crowds are like And and what what the shows have been like for you? Well, I think I think the last show we had was probably the best reception show. Yeah So tony d's over in elmwood park. Um real like small club, but very like the sound there is amazing Tony d's is yeah, it's a cool place to play.
It's a nice vibe in there, you know Um, and I mean people were singing along people were dancing. Um, I was really surprised, you know Certain songs of hers are very like pop like, um, soak up the sun, you know, right people sing along with that So, um, I was really happy with our reception there and it's most of her music is Either really like fun and playful or kind of like sad and reflective so you get that like back and forth So we try to make the set, you know Flow so that you get the ups and downs just like a typical cover band show, but even the stuff that sounds Um, I and I guess this is part of the I'll admit she's uh, she's one of my mopeds, you know You know and this sounds terrible because we're talking about a woman but you know A moped is you know, they're fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you on one you know And and i'm and I don't mean that to sound sexual in any way but But yeah, I can just jam with some show crow when i'm driving around in the truck every once in a while She's a great lyricist, but even even the stuff from her that sounds like it's sad You know or kind of melodramatic actually has a positive positive twist to it Like like the first cut is the deepest. Yeah, right.
That's it's you know, you hear that song you think the first cut is the deepest Okay, this is a sad song but no it's like look you've had the first cut it only gets better from here You know, she always puts that positive spin on on absolutely everything. Yeah, she's cheryl crow. She is Yeah, that's what she does.
She flies high. She does she does. No, I i'm a i'm a big fan of cheryl crow's so Um, what about the demographic? I mean when you look out into the crowd, what kind of I'd say like stuff that you're seeing there She hasn't had anything like big on the radio For a few years now, but she's she's done a pretty good job of staying relevant I feel like um, she did a tune with stapleton recently.
She's done some movie soundtrack stuff So she's been out there and then I I want to say she's done a couple of like Tours during the summer where you see her pop. Yeah, I can't remember who she was out with but she was out with somebody Really big pink, wasn't she? Oh, yeah, I thought she did something with her In front of a diverse audience. Yeah, what surprised me was, um, I think it was sometime around 2012 or something like that.
She did a country album And and not a lot of people heard the whole country album, but I know she had one hit off of it And she toured opening for george straight Wow, you know and that's legit that actually well that spoke volumes because she was You know well on her way to being a famous musician, you know, I believe she'd already won a grammy You know at that point in the whole bit and george straight says hey come out and open for me She's like, yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna i'm gonna do that. So that says a lot about her characters yeah, I admire her like tenacity because she was like if you I've done my fair share of like researching her because when you're doing a tribute you kind of want to be able to connect better with the artist, um and uh She she started her career with like leaving las vegas She was like given so much criticism for because some they said they still she's told the story She's told the lyrics and I think she really like had this like i'm gonna prove you all That i'm actually a musician and and she's done nothing but that for the last like 50 years I didn't I didn't hear about that.
What what was the what was the crap? It was like a book that had that she had read that like was about uh, somebody who had left las vegas And she basically like just kind of wrote the lyrics down on the side and then then whoever had written Um, the book came after her after the song became big and was like hey you like stole my book And then I think he ended up like killing himself. It was like bad Yeah, it was like not good press for her at all and so then she kind of went into a hole after that first tuesday night music club and then I think she came back with Oh god, what was the hit right after that? Um It wasn't soak up the sun, but it was something similar where she just kind of came back hitting it real hard um, so I really I appreciate that being I mean i've been in this this chicago scene for a long time and there's not a lot of females that are still hanging around So I kind of relate with her and so I when i'm on stage, I really try to embrace that Yeah, i'm trying to i'm trying to imagine what did yeah. Oh god.
It was i'll think of it while you guys talk Yeah, I I do have notes here. I'm not so smart that i'm just rattling this stuff off the top of my head but yeah, um It wasn't soak of this. No When was the time period? because I think everybody was kind of giving her crap over the fact that she was Kind of mellow a little bit And then when she came out with that When she came out with if it makes you happy and she made the music video that goes along with oh, yeah with that Right, but and then then it kind of went the other way where everybody was like, well, that's not cheryl crow I mean the church the true cheryl crow fans were like what is this because it reminded them a lot of the um, Um, well again michael jackson did a duet with janet Where oh, yeah, and and the video looked very similar to to the video that that they did together Where it seemed almost like it was coming from a place of anger In a way, I think it might have been a change to do good.
I think that is the song Oh, you know what that she came back and said that yeah Because she she wrote it like with another really famous guy. They wrote together But yeah, but yeah, that was kind of her comeback song. Yeah.
I mean she's written a lot of stuff She's written with don henley and and she's written a lot of stuff for people that you wouldn't know if she's written She's written stuff for celine dion. She's written a song for winona judd Um, she's she's really versatile. She just we uh, she just did an album of covers actually Oh, really? Yeah, she did a whole cover album and one of them was digging in the dirt from peter gabriel No kidding, and i'm a huge peter gabriel fan So I was like, can we please so we added that at the set and that always kills.
Wow We did that one up the first time. Have you guys ever heard of tribute island that they do up? Yeah We've had a few people we've had a few bands and it's yeah, it's such a great event I mean, it was a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun afterwards It was it was a great time.
But um, we opened we uh Brought it out that for that show and it went over really well Like it was a great it's a good groove for sure and peter gabriel sings on it on her version of it Right, right. He came into the studio with her. Excellent.
Excellent So out of so out of all the hits like what's what's your set list? Like are you really picking all the top 10 hits or you're doing a couple? All those all the you know All the hits and then just select deep cuts as we go and you know We change it up show to show depending on how long it is or what we feel like Will relate to a particular venue or audience right or if we have an instrumental part We want to you know jam out on a little bit just kind of like like she'll do live So right, right. Yeah, if you watch her live stuff she they are very jam bandish and they like will just kind of go off and do their own thing and I love it and even vocally she's really grown. I mean you watch her She was very you know, she was a background or backup singer, you know You got to follow what the other guy's doing, right? But now she's I think nashville has really influenced her a lot because you can hear more of like a country Twang in her voice than you used to be able to hear so big time.
I I would have to agree with that Yeah, you know, I think you know people always try to when you when you When you read what critics have said about her they've always said things like she's got this powerful voice I've never really thought of her voice as being powerful before Um soothing I could listen to it all day You know, you know kind of thing but she definitely is is her own. She really is so absolutely I think it's time to see if um I think it's time to see if uh They really pay tribute to uh, cheryl crow Let's see or listen to or listen to because our yeah, they can't hands can't we can Yes, that's right. I think it's time.
Well, you have to also take in mind There's only three of us and there's typically seven. Don't be making excuses Okay, then we'll be right back You're listening to the rock and roll chicago podcast Hey everybody, it's ray the roadie and this is hollywood mike of the rock and roll chicago podcast If you've been joining our weekly program, we have great news for you Just tune in to road to rock radio on mondays at 7 p.m Central time and you can hear a rebroadcast of one of our past episodes then again on thursdays at 7 p.m You can hear our most current episode brought to you by the illinois rock and roll museum on route 66 So go to road to rock.org scroll down and click on radio station That'll bring you to the road to rock radio a station committed entirely to the great music from illinois From chicago blues born on maxwell street to today's rock and roll and everything in between 24 7 all music with its roots in illinois So for the first time tonight we have What the heck tuesday night music club the tuesday night music club and crocheting group And the croatian the crocheting croatians. Oh my god.
That's the name of my next band Take it away music club on wednesday He was high Lay back enjoy the show Everybody gets high Everybody gets low These are the days where anything goes There's usually a guitar there On a tuesday night I'm, just wondering why I feel so all alone Why i'm stranger in my own life Jumping let's go Lay back enjoy the show Everybody is high Everybody is low These are the days when anything goes Every day is a winding road I think that's good right there. Yeah, because this is just a guitar solo right here Wow You should have did the mouth guitar. Yeah, I should have did the wows Thank you, at least it wasn't the bottom yellow one.
Thank god That's for the end of the show, yeah All right, yeah, you can't help but you know sing along to that song I know I can't hear the other two they're gonna do Oh, you're funny Yeah You know, don't even pretend you know, you got this you've got it you got it, you know you do What's so great about the project though, honestly, um, because typically we're just the four of us and having keys on stage Having a backup vocalist on stage having two guitars on stage. I'm I'm, so blessed that to be surrounded with such talent and that it's just it really empowers you as a vocalist to have all that Sound behind you and around you like it's awesome Yeah covers up all your mistakes. I love that especially the keys especially the keys I know and when you mess up even if you mess up the lyrics you got like four other people you can look at and go What was your meme the other day? Oh, yeah, forgetting lyrics is an art.
Yeah I'm an artist. Yeah I believe it's it's singing the wrong lyrics with conviction is an art He must have gotten in his feed too. I saw it too.
Yes. I did It was the it was the black and white. It was the black and white photo with like, uh, It was on a marquee like at a bar Singing the wrong lyrics with conviction is an art and i'm an artist Like you've said before people know the song all you got to do is like mumble and they don't hear it Or if you forget just just do the universal yeah Right That's the beauty of doing cover songs, that's right well, yeah being and being tribute i'll i'll be honest i've been a lot more like nervous because Because of the fact that you do have more like loyalists and fans of that particular artist So like when you go up there like they are watching to make sure you're not messing up, you know They're like that sounds different.
Yeah. No, they do. They absolutely do I I got asked to play guitar in a in a steve miller band tribute band a little time and they did not try to emulate or copy the song perfectly they they Were they it was like a jam band format, but it's steve miller music, right? And I can't remember I can't remember the song that it was Big old jenner liner, right? Literally, we weren't even finished with the set after the song was over We had like three guys that was nothing like the steve miller version of that song cross arm.
Yeah Yes, there's like yeah, there's no yeah Oh and clearly I don't have like blonde hair that's curly and i'm five foot 11 and she's like five foot two So it's like i'm clearly not trying to go for the look so i've got to try to sound as much as I can like But she you know, she's changed her style and the way she's looked so many remember she had that short haircut She she went through a phase where she wore like peasant dresses and she had a short haircut And then she came back and she had long hair. I mean she is a fashion fashion setter She's actually worked with a lot of professional designers to kind of change her look and and the whole day Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
She really has Reinvented herself, you know a few times but stayed true to to who she is at the same time. I really do admire I think she's yeah You know, she's got a lot of good music and I I do enjoy listening to her stuff for sure So it's got to be fun to play it is absolutely. Yeah.
So what kind of places are uh, Calling you guys up or they're readily saying oh, yeah, we definitely need a cheryl crow tribute band here tonight I'll agree. Let's see. Where are we going? Uh reggie's, uh, it was great.
Love playing down there Their their whole album night thing is really cool. Um Yeah, uh sundance saloon shank hall tony d's Rock house is coming up on february February 22nd 22nd. We're playing with uh, tennessee whiskey the chris tapleton with uh, yeah Yeah, yep.
Yep Um, I mean clubs a lot more clubs are booking like tribute or like, um tour tour You know what? I mean like warp tour Like lilith fair. Yeah, they're doing like whole nights bands and stuff like that. It's so it's like going that route The tribute thing is just blown up like crazy.
I mean i'm in probably five or six of them right now because it's just well I I know I see you all over the place. Yeah I get around you haunt my facebook page. It's like Greg was here Greg rap, I wake up in the middle like They've got that unfollow button.
I highly recommend using it. It's completely overrated. Yes Yeah, yeah, you're looking at it.
That's it. No Yeah, but that's it's a huge thing. Um, and it's really cool and and artists take it, you know cover bands Take it really seriously.
I have a friend who's in uh, my buddy will fedonzo, uh is in a prince a national prince thing um, right and they're going out every weekend and playing they were just at a rundown in texas and They're doing house of blues down there. They're doing you know, 800 a thousand people a night Oh, yeah, so it's it's a big deal. I know it is absolutely crazy We've got a friend of the of the podcast here.
His name is mike akino who's playing mike's great. I play with mike Yeah, I do one of these nights the eagles thing. Yeah.
Oh, yeah You're in one of these nights. So i'm i'm part of the maggie speaks corporation. Who the hell are you greg? I mean, I mean seriously Are you schizophrenic? I what the heck I I get around I just I just did a boo I believe he referred to him as a boil last time at the end of the episode just keeps showing up.
I'm, sorry He's like i'm not a whore but i'm a musician and it's close enough. Yeah, right No, it's funny that the the maggie speaks thing. Um, you know, we have a world wedding corporate band.
Yeah Um, but through that dave calistaretta, uh has tribute bands as well So he started those on the side one of these nights was the first one of that So I sub in that because that's you know, it's the same kind of tech that we use in the in the regular band So I do that and then i'm in a bg's thing. Uh Call, um brothers gib. Yeah.
Yeah, we're playing gaelic park coming up. Um Or i'm sorry at gaelic park lyric theater, uh, and then uh, radio gaga. Yeah, there's another one that I do You know Some friends of mine just recently saw that I didn't know you were in radio.
Yeah, so so So I so I play drums part-time and that the regular denver vans or a chefsky. Uh Is the full-time guy at jury lane? So when he can't do that, I play drums but my wife and I are the full-time sound team right for that So we do all their all their sound gigs through the summer Yeah, thank god. He hasn't contacted us to do every single one of these things We have to call it the greg Please spread it out to every 50 episodes.
You're welcome. Yeah, we'd have to but you know Nobody needs that much if there's any production companies out there that would like to Buy some commercial time on our podcast. It is available.
Yeah. Yes. Yes it is Oh, yeah, but what I was saying about mike is you know, he's playing in that share tribute.
Yeah, the beat goes on The beat goes on right? Yeah, exactly. Clem. Hayes and ed breckenfield and every time I see, you know stuff from him You know, we live really close together and hope and i've known him for a few years it's like when whenever you see the posts that he puts on facebook, it's like You think there's a multi-million dollar national touring act they're flying.
I mean they fly all over the place Yeah, it's it's a fly date thing. Well, she did she was out in vegas She had a residency out there for at least a couple years I know and you know, but mike does that he does but it's the same thing you know, we all do and in kind of the jobbing scene like he does that he He's got a bunch of other bands that he's in as well. So, um, yeah, but but yeah, there's a lot of The full at high-end touring work.
Um, you can do right So if anybody's looking to do a hootie in the blowfish, i'm sure there is one I have been I have been accused of sounding like, uh, there is rutger, you know, so i'd love to hang it out There's more than I think people are saying you sounded more like a blowfish. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
I'll blow hard. Wait, that's true well, I think I think bars just it's easier for them to book tributes because they're like They know what they're gonna get when they book sucker puns. They're like, what do you guys do? What songs do you do and you're like, oh a variety and they're like, what does that mean? Like and they want their people that are coming there to know what they can tell them So when you say tribute, it's very clear.
So I think that's why they move that way and never say oh We're an original band. Yeah At least not here anyway, you know There are places that look for that I think a lot of it is is regional because I you know, I think the bar owners in the chicago area and really I mean Wisconsin indiana i'm talking kind of like Or the or the great lakes region or whatever They they've kind of figured out that people want to hear the music that they like the way they are Are used to hearing it and they want to see tribute bands They don't want to see a cover band that covers, you know 20 different bands and it might not sound exactly the same and that brings people in but I travel all over the country as well and there's places like You go to south dakota. They don't want you if you're a tribute band.
They want original music Oh, yeah, absolutely You guys especially if you go around the deadwood area and that's surprising to me because deadwood area of south dakota is a resort town There's a big casino there in the whole town, but they want to hear original music and minnesota Minnesota as well. They want to hear original music So, um, I think a lot of it has to do with where you are and what puts asses on the bar stools Nothing else matters at the end of the day. We're all we're all glorified bill beer sales people That's exactly what it is.
My job is not to entertain you or play perfect music. My job is to sell beer Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's a gig unfortunately.
Yeah But we get to have fun doing it. So that's cool. Well, yeah, that's what it's all about when it becomes too much Like work.
I don't want to do it anymore, right? Yeah So what's the next one you're going to do for us? Uh the next song. Yeah, can't cry anymore. We could do that.
Okay, sure. Yep. What's this one called? Can't cry anymore.
I don't know if i'm familiar with that one. You might be you might be we'll see we'll see Hopefully you won't cry after we pause it for a second. We'll pause it.
We could pause it. We'll be right back You're listening to the rock and roll chicago podcast All right, and we are back Yes, we are they're going to perform can't cry anymore Don't cry, baby. Don't cry as made famous by showgirl And I can't cry anymore Left been feeling better because that's what you should get when you stay together And I can't cry anymore Now wouldn't it be good if we could hop or fly to anywhere That looks never-ending And now we'll know that money comes in but the fact is It's not enough To pay my taxes and I I can't cry Anymore.
Oh, hey Well, I got a brother he's got real problems Heroin now, there's just no stopping him tonight and I can't cry Anymore Now wouldn't that be good if we could hop or fly to anywhere That's too much It's never It could be worse I could have missed my calling. Sometimes it hurts me when you read the writing on the wall And I can't cry Anymore Now wouldn't it be good if we could hop or fly to anywhere So much This life So much I can't cry anymore. I can't cry anymore That way, you know Oh, thank you.
Wow, this audience is great. They're fantastic That's the most people that have clapped for that song, you know, you you do a good job of uh Of the cheryl curl stuff. Oh, you do good.
She kills her. Yeah. Thank you.
You really you really do I actually got a pretty pretty good compliment from mel. Shoe shoey. Yeah Yeah, she she's like I don't like sheryl crow, but I like hearing you sing show I was like, oh man, that's really nice compliment when we first started doing this, you know, uh Melissa shubalis does the atlantis and the atlantis thing? Yeah And destroys kills.
It's so good like has the moves has the hat. Oh, they're absolutely fantastic um I'm, like yeah mel has that she does atlantis Your show yeah, yeah, yeah Perfect. Appreciate that because she definitely has a certain inflection to her voice.
Yeah, it's a vibe found it. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely You know, I I um, I realized that I did write this down What what album was that from? Okay, look how he's testing us on the knowledge.
I'm pretty sure that was on. Um, the first album. Yes Was it really the first? Yeah, it was.
Yeah. Okay. We did it at reggie's.
That's how I know. Yes Yes, because I mean had a little bit of a country twang to it So I was wondering if it was on that 2013 album I think maybe that steve mcqueen might have been on that album Well, she what I was thinking because I I did take it down as a note and I didn't remember that I did this In 2013 she had a song called easy Okay, I don't know that and and it was Apparently it was her biggest hit since 2005 Really? Yeah. Wow.
Yeah. Wow Maybe you might want to learn that. Yeah, maybe yeah One of the newer ones I like that But that was the album that I told you about where she did an album in nashville and it was an all country Oh, okay And she ended up opening for george straight because of that album and that song easy was the single that charted for so We're gonna definitely have to look into that one.
I like I like the song home, which I feel like is a newer song Yeah, it's kind of mellow and sad But it's like she's just very great at singing lyrics just so like delicately but like strong I don't know that sounds Like a jumbo shrimp, but you know what i'm trying to say Strongly delicate. Yeah. No, I totally get that.
Yeah, so Did you ever give thought to singing carol carol? Cheryl carol king Yeah, you know carol shrews Did you ever give any thought never before you were asked and never but but I will say that when Chris was like man See if you can do it and I listened to the album and I was like I think I know all these songs already because I had listened to it like as a teenager for sure Right. Um, she was totally cool when I was growing up. So so yeah, I immediately was like wow I do have a connection to her and and then I just started like Looking at her and a lot of the clothes that she wore.
I was like kind of we had a similar taste I was like, oh my god, she's influenced me more than I thought Right, so it's kind of cool. Yeah. No, it is amazing.
You don't a lot of times you don't realize Yeah, how much how much music somebody has they sit down and actually start thinking about well, let's let's figure out what these shows Oh, yeah, the next thing you know, you've got 30 of them Yeah, well and you're listening to it at a different period in your life, too Like I I listened to her when I was a teenager and now i'm listening to her, you know in my 40s as a mom So the lyrics hit different, right? You know what I mean? So it's like it's like you literally are listening to somebody new again So it was it was great rediscovering her for sure I admit the only the only cheryl crow song that I ever played guitar on was um um Favorite mistake. Okay That's just that's just a cool. I don't know.
That's a cool song to play guitar on it Can confirm it is it's so I mean, it's Relatively simple and kind of mellow, but it just sounds cool. I just happen to know that that song came out in 1998 Do you know that see I have knowledge. All right How do you know that I'm smart.
Oh, okay. He does have a laptop in front of him. He does have a laptop Yeah, well you have to you don't know because sometimes you know, there's also the number three all-time greatest hits of hers Oh, no kidding Wow, look at him.
He's just like a fact bomb just coming by Yeah, yeah. Well, you never know somebody his age. They usually don't know how to use laptops Hey What's been great too is like ricardo had to learn how to play the slide He may have known how to do slide already because like guitar.
Yeah, but you know it pushed him to Purchase one I think yeah at least and then you know, it's pretty cool for I think maybe three songs He plays that and that that's such a unique sound to have on the stage with you, right? You know, you can't fake that you really can't know and I don't know her guitar player's name. I can see the guy's face But he's a fantastic guitar player they're all great players They're all yeah all session cats but but his but but her guitar player the guy that plays the black telecaster most of the time and I I've never seen him without a black telecaster thin line and I can't think of his name But he's a fantastic guitar player and I know he plays with a few other people But most of the time i've seen him as well with cheryl. So she's got she's got a great group of guys Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Absolutely. I watched I was totally and I nerded out and watched like her. Um Like her home they like did a tour of it and she in her above her like barn like where her horses are She has a studio and it's like such a badass studio like she you know, and they actually recorded a song with chris stapleton up there, um Tell me when it's over.
I think it's the name of the song which hopefully we'll be able to play with when tennessee whiskey We're gonna try to do a little duet together so very cool. Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah, that would be When is the date of this show, uh, february 22nd, february 22nd, okay at the rock house and Is that west dundee west dundee west dundee? Okay.
Well, that sounds interesting Yeah, that'll be fun. If i'm not working. I might have to go and check that out your first show in two years Yeah, no kidding I would be honored.
Yeah No, I I do. I I really do try and get out and see people play. It's just like god.
You're just so busy Maybe we should be going to see him I gotta go and see can like groove. No, yeah, we bored the shit out of you guys Until the hoodie and billfish songs then Right, right, right So, um, what other gigs you guys have coming up? That one for sure. And then we also have one april 5th, um up in walkie, right? The redo the reschedule.
Yeah the reschedule of the shitty night At the shitty bar as of right now february 22nd is clear for you, sir. Oh, thank you very much You carry his calendar. That's impressive.
He is my secretary. Wow, that's nice. Yeah Yeah, he tells me where we are.
That's for sure. But yeah, we've got our press kit out there, you know We're trying to push for i'm sure they'll hopefully we'll be at tribute island again this year. That'll be fun for sure Some summer fest stuff.
Hopefully. Yeah. Yeah.
Nice. Nice. So how do people find you because I I searched for you guys.
I know Yeah, when I when I when I entered tuesday night music club What it did is it gave me a whole list of local bars that have open jams That's awesome. Yeah It did I got abandoned the uk. I got one in texas Well, this is this is a baby project.
I mean honestly and honestly, I just thought it was a one-off I really did. Yeah, and then people kept asking for it. So Maybe we'll get serious this year, but you guys are on facebook.
We're on facebook So if anybody's on facebook, which is still the best way to connect for bands and other artists nobody else nobody else I mean, it's like free web page for sure. It really is So you guys are on facebook and you got your calendar and stuff there? And there's some pictures and everything We do have a promo video, yeah, yes, I did and that's pretty good video I did see the promo video so Excellent. Excellent.
So go and check these guys out go to their facebook page Like the page what a lot of people don't know I tell this to everybody at cadillac groove shows go to the page Like the page when they create invites, you'll get a little notice, you know, hey, they've invited you to a show That is the easiest way of finding out where you can go and see these guys. That's right So go out there and see them if you're cheryl crow fans, or if you're not a cheryl crow fan They're just nice. You might become a cheryl crow.
That's right, man. That's right because apparently they play cheryl crow better than cheryl crow You know, how cool would that be also weird yeah, I feel like i'm sorry i'm just hand her the microphone In order with her hand maybe um, I believe it or not i've actually been on stage at look cordon blues I don't think they're even there anymore in st. Charles.
Oh, I know that's what I was I was with a cover band like 25 years ago, and we were playing vehicle and jim peter was in the audience. Oh, that makes sense Yeah That's awesome and you're still doing it so that's good. Yeah.
Yeah, that's right. No, he absolutely loved it He's like, oh my god, it was great. He freaking he loved it.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah Yeah, he's a cool dude So I think that's about it. I think that's about it unless they want to take us out with one more I don't know.
It's on the guitarist not on me. That would be what do you want to do? That would be a real sucker punch Once you want to try a favorite favorite mistake sure, I would just look For that one, which was the number three most popular in 1998 That's not going to be easy to play on an acoustic guitar, I know That's right, that's right Cool, you ready? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's do it.
Okay, let's do it For the final time this might be his favorite mistake that might be there might be many favorite mistakes here Well, i'm plenty to choose from so if we forget to say it later, thanks for listening Yeah, thanks for having us again That's right. You guys are great at this. I honestly I love coming here.
So thank you for having us. Oh This is from the globe sessions, I think anybody that's curious All right, we're ready. Oh you got it.
Okay, we're rolling Warning that you don't care for me anymore I made up a bed. We sleeping. I looked at the clock when you're creeping It's 6 a.m It's the perfect ending to the bad day I was just beginning when you go home You're my favorite mistake You're doing it michael you got this They watch you But i'm no fool Now here comes a secret lover Until your guilt goes up in flames Is Did you know when you go here's the perfect ending to the bad day I got used to standing When you go all I know is you're my favorite mistake You're my favorite mistake Hey Maybe nothing lasts forever even when you stay together I don't need forever after it's your laughter won't let me go.
So i'm holding Me Could you tell you were the only one that I ever met Everything's Did you ever make you cry did I ever make you cry I You're my favorite mistake Tuesday night music club everybody And it's tuesday night, yeah, it's wednesday plus one it's wednesday That's right. Thanks for coming out guys. Thanks See you soon.
We'll see you Already, there you have it tuesday night music club tuesday night music club. Yeah, you know, what's really weird. What's what we're talking about? You know the interview we just did it was a great interview and They're still here looking at us.
I know they're staring and it's like we've never done this before. I know we haven't That was a lot of fun seeing them guys again Yeah, we should have kept the tape rolling and just like we probably got all the dirty secrets and everything We probably should have but we we just had to get this outro. That would have been my favorite mistake.
Yeah, it would have been wow Oh, I think I just took a sucker punch. Yeah. Oh, yeah Well, I think it's time to go to juliette's I think it is.
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