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GREATNESS IS A PROCESS I FEAT JUSTIN MURRAY I RTM PODCAST I SZN O2 | EP .17
In this episode of the RTM Podcast, we delve into the transformative journey of Justin Murray, a prominent black youth engagement consultant. The conversation is rich with themes of personal growth, influence, and the impact of family values on one's life choices. Justin Murray opens up about his experiences, sharing heartfelt stories of resilience and ambition that resonate deeply with listeners seeking inspiration in navigating their own paths. From family legacies to personal milestones, Justin's narrative is both relatable and enlightening.
The episode kicks off with a discussion about the "Don't Get Tricked Out Your Spot" high school tour, highlighting Justin's collaboration with the What I Wish I Knew Foundation. This initiative is a testament to the power of community and the importance of creating meaningful connections. As we journey through the episode, Justin's reflections on his father and grandfather emerge as pivotal influences in his life. These family figures instilled core values that have guided Justin in making crucial life decisions, from overcoming the challenges of early adulthood to celebrating family reunions that mark significant milestones.
The episode also navigates through the complexities of balancing dreams with reality, a theme that is universal yet deeply personal. Justin shares his experiences of self-discovery, emphasizing the importance of personal accountability and growth. This exploration is particularly poignant as it underscores the necessity of making informed decisions while pursuing one's aspirations. The podcast highlights the misconception that family status or connections guarantee success, stressing instead the universal journey toward self-reliance and personal development.
The discussion extends into the vibrant landscape of the music industry, engaging listeners in spirited debates about iconic figures like Diddy and Dr. Dre. Through the "Fast Track" game, Justin reveals his musical preferences, offering insights into the strategic approaches he employs in his professional endeavors. His work with Everytown and his father's brand, Plains, is examined, showcasing Justin's role in marketing and community engagement. This segment of the podcast is rich with insights into influence and legacy, illustrating the importance of balancing success with contentment and the joy of celebrating small victories.
Community involvement and the journey from uncertainty to activism are central themes in this episode. Justin's narrative highlights the transformative power of giving back and the significance of building valuable relationships. The conversation underscores that success is not solely about financial gain but about contributing to a greater purpose and fulfilling both personal and community goals. As the episode draws to a close, listeners are reminded of the ongoing journey toward personal growth, the importance of self-recognition, and the value of forming strong networks.
Finally, the podcast offers a lively exploration of musical influences and personal preferences. Through games and debates, listeners are invited to engage with Justin's insights into the diverse sounds and talents in hip-hop. The episode concludes with a discussion on the influence of music legends, particularly focusing on the contributions of Diddy and Dr. Dre. This conversation serves as a fitting end to an episode that seamlessly blends themes of personal evolution, cultural impact, and the enduring legacy of music.
We'll see you next time. Rilla the Moose Podcast building man. What's up, what up, what up, what up, what's up, guys? What's going on? Brody cash, what's?
Speaker 3:up my brother today I want cash to do the rundown.
Speaker 1:Man, oh, man oh man, um, you know, I ain't gonna lie like when, uh, this year may, I was a part of a, uh, a high school tour, uh, don't get tricked out your spot tour. Shout out, manny. Shout out what I wish I knew.
Speaker 3:Foundation you know I'm saying and um.
Speaker 1:For for those unaware, I'm gonna make this a little quick for those unaware. Like you know, manny work with a specific you know, uh, non-profit. Is it a non-profit or? Foundation yeah, like a foundation called every town, so he had the members out here. He had some good people out here, but great people out of all the people you know. I'm saying we. We met Justin at Martin Luther King high school man and like I tell y'all this dude man, he just super Jim.
Speaker 1:We clicked before he, we even knew who he was. Why was he important? What he gen? We clicked before he, we even knew who he was right. Why was he important? What'd he do?
Speaker 4:yeah we clicked before that you feel what I'm saying man listen, philly showed me man love that yeah, man my man, white boys, you know, quote unquote took me to the best. Uh, what I spot out here, where you take you shout out the chucks.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay man. He took me to chucks yeah, we, we, we clicked with justin. You know I'm saying, uh, like I ain't gonna hold you man, ever since you know he been in our home. We didn't get to his home yet, but he's been, we've been, we've been, he's been in his, we've been, he's been in our home. We about to go to his home. Just real solid, dude, man, I ain't going to lie man, I'm mad I missed your birthday too.
Speaker 4:I'm mad I missed that man Nah man, it's all good man, we got stuff happening. I'm mad man.
Speaker 1:But listen y'all, I'm mad, I want to come. Man, if y'all ain't familiar with him, you know what I'm saying. Emory Jones son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Rockefeller Royalty.
Speaker 1:If y'all know who Emory Jones is, go look that up. That's not even something I should be even explaining, because y'all should know that.
Speaker 2:Man, emory Jones, and the caravan.
Speaker 1:Yo give it up for.
Speaker 2:Justin Murray.
Speaker 1:man, I want to get straight into it because this is the thing right, Because I just said the every town thing. I was about to go deeper but I would have been speeding. We did an interview with Justin, previous Talk about it. And it was real good man.
Speaker 3:Great Crazy.
Speaker 1:And then it was some technical difficulties and I never was able to get to you. You feel me.
Speaker 3:Shout out Manny 2 and 5.
Speaker 1:Shout out Manny 2 and 5.
Speaker 2:But the reason.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that happened, though, is because Look at us now. Look at us now. Are we way? Are we way like?
Speaker 2:way past that.
Speaker 1:Past that. You, man, you, you stay climbing, you stay doing what you mean. So I just wanted to say we appreciate you for, you know, being patient with us and running this back, because we really had a a good interview you know I'm saying yeah, and it was family man, it was all love, man.
Speaker 4:Y'all open the doors for me, man. I was just hoping I could show y'all that same love shout out the real of the most podcast you know. Thank you already man laying out the red carpet for when I came man. So, like I said, I appreciate y'all man, thank you.
Speaker 1:so yeah, no problem, man, we appreciate you. So before we man, thank you. So yeah, no problem, man, we appreciate you. So before we get into anything, you know we big on mental health up here, you know what I'm saying. So before we get into everything, we ask everybody how they feeling. So we going to start with Core today.
Speaker 3:How you feeling man. Today is one of them days, fellas, you know like I feel like whenever you get to a situation where you feeling like you down, it's what's next. You know what I'm saying? So I'm on the what's next wave right now, bro, we doing rather than most podcasts, you know, we got like 50 shows for real, for real, almost like 60.
Speaker 2:Probably like 60, roughly.
Speaker 3:I'm on the part like what's next for us? You know what I'm saying. I'm ready to go ahead and excel a little bit, like take this to the next level. I think we know what we're doing when it come to, like, putting the show together um of course, we still gonna get better over the time, but I'm still thinking what's next? Like right now, we like seven months in yeah so that's how I'm feeling right now okay, how about you, white boy?
Speaker 2:so I'm like kind of like in that same space, but like, like how I see it is like, um, I ain't on front, like I'm so much like in the work right now and I think we could pull off a hundred episodes before the year out, bro, we got five weeks left, bro, I mean Bro, we got five weeks left Bro I mean. Bro, we could like it's possible, Bro, it's possible bro.
Speaker 3:It is possible 10 shows a week.
Speaker 2:So like that's easy, I'm like.
Speaker 4:I'm like, I'm like trying like Two shows a day I'm trying like.
Speaker 2:I'm trying like manifest that for us to end this year off strong, like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I've been thinking about.
Speaker 1:That's how you feeling.
Speaker 2:That's how I'm feeling.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm feeling like you know what I mean Like yesterday, you know, we had a real, we had a real good talk After we uh Recorded. You know what I'm saying. And I'm just feeling like Alright, so I've been, and for the last couple weeks I've been feeling like all right, so I've been, and for the last couple weeks I've been in like this little. I've been in like this little funk. I ain't going to lie, like like just overthinking stuff. You know what I'm saying, taking the bad with the bad instead of looking at the good. You feel me Like just worrying about everything that ain't going to happen, or this, that and the third, and I was letting it affect me, like when it come to the pod a little bit. So I'm just working on that. You know what I'm saying, just making sure that I recognize the opportunity I got in front of me with my people. You feel what I'm saying. So I'm feeling like just sharpening still a little bit. Just get it sharpened a little bit more. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's gangster, yeah for sure, how about you brother?
Speaker 4:Man, I'm blessed, man, Blessed, waiting on the rest. Man, I happen to be blessed to put in a position where I've been on a school tour myself. Man, manny was a big motivation for me.
Speaker 4:Man, like I said, said, shout out to manny, 215 shout out manny um, he's a big motivation for me to do what I'm doing in the dmv. Now I'm doing a school tour myself with, uh, one of my business partners, uh, neil. Man, shout out to neil. Uh, neil introduced me to a situation where he had a relationship with all the schools to where I was at. It was probably like man, it was roughly like 20, 25 schools. He went around and actually built a relationship for us. Man, I just happened to come through with my relationship with Evertown and Students Demand Action. Shout out to them. I just happened to be a way for them and I'm just happy we was able to partner together and pull it off. Man, we probably reached out to roughly about, we'll say, like 1,200 students. Man, all around the PG County area man in.
Speaker 4:Maryland man and I was happy to be a part of it had some of my brothers pull up two-time NBA champion Quinn Cook, a couple painters you know.
Speaker 1:some of my brothers pull up um two-time nba champion quinn cook um a couple of painters you know uh you know a couple influential people around the dmv man, it was all love hey, man, that's a shot, man, two-time mb, like I ain't gonna lie, man, like that's my guy man it's great, it's great it's great that people in our position can even have that happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man like, yeah, that's wonderful, and like be able to pull strings like that, yeah and I want, yes, and I and I want to get, I want to get deep into it. So we gonna, we gonna, we gonna row the boat. You feel me, you're gonna row the boat. So you know how we do it.
Speaker 2:Let's get it right, boy so you already know um, it's really the most podcast up here. We do our due diligence. You know we family ever since we met. You know we clicked. I'm saying we, we communicate all the time, but I'm saying we here for a reason. We really let the people know who justin is. So where you from, justin is so where you from?
Speaker 4:Man, I'm from Maryland, man, I grew up on the eastern shore part of Maryland, like, did all my schooling out there with the, you know, elementary, middle, high school out there, even went to college out there, okay. After that, man ended up moving to DC for probably like 10 years now. Okay, outside of that was just building relationships too. And here I am now, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So growing up in Maryland, give me a few of your influences growing up and when I say influences I don mean like the rapper or the local rapper, I mean like the people that's even in your house, are like right outside your door. Give me those type of influences that you had growing up.
Speaker 4:man, my grandfather, okay, uh, my grandfather was everything to me. Okay, as y'all know, you know obviously everybody know who my father is. I don't even need to explain that. Whatever you know my grandfather, he was there with me every day. You feel me. No disrespect to my father. Love my father to death.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right.
Speaker 4:But he was there with me every day, Taught me how to be a man and any good thing that anybody loved about me I probably got it from him.
Speaker 2:Okay, mm-hmm, okay, okay. So what? Your father, during a lefty sentence in jail, your grandfather was the one that kind of stepped up to the plate and held you down For sure, taught me everything man.
Speaker 4:Taught me how to drive, taught me how to hustle. Taught me everything it was need or no. You know, respectfully, just how to be a good person and to be a man you feel me Like my grandfather ain't never missed a day of work in his life. You don't tell me how to you know core values.
Speaker 2:Hmm, ok, ok. So look, I don't, you know you, we, we family bro For sure.
Speaker 2:So like I don't want to make this like no, no, john, and I want to make this like no part about, but like we got to talk about it, so listen on. But like we got to talk about it, so listen. Your pop is a part of history, facts, some of the greatest history that we got in hip-hop, hip-hop culture. Yeah, but due to the fall he took, he kind of missed the height of it, but, being as though that the height of what the Rockefeller the Rockefeller?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was just. I want to know which direction.
Speaker 2:Rockefeller era, but being as though the nigga main man is the big guy, he held him down all the way through. We know that through culture too, because every song or two his name getting put in it, especially on Kingdom Come Like yeah, that joint.
Speaker 1:Do you Wanna Ride? Yeah, yeah, like yeah, that drunk, that totally yeah. Do you want to ride?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so like when you growing up, the knowledge that you had of your father, like did you know, like exactly who he was?
Speaker 4:Nah, man, to me my dad is just my dad. Bro, of course you know, even to the extent of what it is you feel me. I never knew that until, like later on in years of life, you feel me when you know, respectfully, I was just old enough to really understand it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:Outside of that, no, bro, damn. My experiences with my dad before he went in was all you know respectfully a loving, caring father.
Speaker 2:Yeah, father, father, father, son, shit, yeah, my father ain't. Bro, we never talk about this type of shit. Yeah, my father listen, bro.
Speaker 4:my father never showed me that part of his life, but they're in his life, bro Might not one day, bro.
Speaker 1:What like the part of life that got him there?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I never understood that about him until eventually I got older. Okay, you know, I was just.
Speaker 2:You know that's my dad and you know that's who he is, all right, so you, but okay, your papa, honorable man bro. So, like you know, we don't be talking about this type of shit, but we we you know I mean we doing this. So it's like I feel like we got to talk about this in the right way, because not only did he do something honorable but he come home and do something even more honorable with planes. So it's like Like with who talking about your dad and always giving him his praises on how he was like an innovator coming up, because they say your pop was like the one that put them on, like Bollies and shit like that, like them, niggas was wearing forces. Yeah, sure he getting off the train he got Bollies and Louie's and shit like that, like them was wearing forces, yeah, for sure he getting off the train.
Speaker 4:He got bollies and louise and like that on. Like yeah man, they say my dad had a uh, a fashion habit back yeah, man, right, just used to like stay clean facts.
Speaker 2:So yeah, like and then like being able to come home and like and turn the whole the fashion world upside down with the plane.
Speaker 4:Shit is amazing to see facts and you know, I just think that's just him. You know, it's really not. You know anything else. You know? I'm sorry, I really can't explain it, but yeah, no, I know what you mean. He's just like that's just him as a person. He'd like to stay fresh, he'd like to stay clean, like that's what he do so it makes the most sense in the world. Literally, that's just what he do.
Speaker 1:You from Maryland, dc, your dad from DC as well, right, Nah my dad from Maryland, my dad from the same part of Maryland.
Speaker 4:I'm from Right, all right so you from Maryland. Yeah, All right. Do you know how the connection came about?
Speaker 1:like Jay-Z and your father, I just know the stories, like y'all do man.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, this my guy.
Speaker 1:Because, like him being from Maryland and him being from Best Eyes, like you mean.
Speaker 4:I mean, you know, I just heard they had a mutual friend. That mutual friend ain't here, no more. Okay, and it continued on, and that's what it was.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, All right. So boom, right. So you seen you going to college in DC or in Maryland? Yeah, I went to college, All right. So boom, you get out of college. Your pop's still arrested, right? He still in there. No, no, no.
Speaker 4:My father was home my senior year of high school. Okay, yeah, my father was there to see me walk across stage and all that, and I am so that that's dope.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's, that's crazy, that's dope. So so boom you out of high school, boom your pop home.
Speaker 2:Now you know the ties he got, boom you out of not to cut you off, though, but that feeling of your pop doing that stint and then him being able to watch you walk across that stage, get your diploma, what, how, that how, that felt well that was dope man.
Speaker 4:Um, the hit just came home too. If I'm not mistaken man, I think it just came home too. If I'm not mistaken man, I think he had just came home. It was just dope not to see him behind no wall. You feel me? My dad did Fat Tom and obviously when we went to visit him I could see him, touch him do all that. But outside of that it was just good seeing him home man, Not in that uniform, no more, my bad bro.
Speaker 1:Nah you good. Uh, so you, your pop. Come home, boom you graduate. You walk across stage, you graduate you.
Speaker 4:You always knew you was gonna go to college nah, I didn't even go to college straight out of, uh, straight out of high school. I was out here probably wilding for like two years for real and then you in the hospital like what 2021? Something like that. I was probably like 20 years old, my freshman year and where and what you go to.
Speaker 1:I'm at college for, uh, business and marketing, business and marketing. So you did it for you or you did it because it was on some my family or my parents wanted me to like. How did that go?
Speaker 4:um, to be honest, bro, I just got tired of living. I was living for real, for I think I was tired of bullshit. You know might catch a little dumbass petty charge in there for petty shit. Yeah, this that the third. And you know, respectfully, life just hit me and you know I had a couple good old heads around and they pretty much said that you need to stop living how you living. Go get some money to stand.
Speaker 1:A third you are bigger than you know the part of Maryland where you at and that's what made you go to college, you saying, or that's how you was thinking, it made me want more.
Speaker 4:It made you want more. It made me want more and you know I thought college was the step to go.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, yeah, that's what they beat in our heads.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what they beat in our heads. You go to college, you get more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so all right. So you dropped out, or it was just like you, just I didn't finish, I probably left after my junior year.
Speaker 4:The crazy thing about it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, yeah, okay. So I didn't finish.
Speaker 1:This is why I wanted to ask them questions before. See, all right, look, they say the decisions that you make from 18 to 27 is what's going to determine your life. I think that's false.
Speaker 2:Explain why.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say what I was about to say, but explain. Why, though? Because what I was about to say, but explain why, though?
Speaker 4:because I believe that I don't care who you are, what you are, how old you is, you know. I believe that if you, you know, even if you're doing wrong at a time, I believe that everybody like when you wake up and choose to say I want to to do right, and I want to take these steps and I know what I got to do. I believe everybody can do that Right, but so.
Speaker 1:But if you over 28, right, and you wake up, no, no, no, that's facts. But I'm saying like, all right, like nine times out of 10, the person who make the right decisions between 18 and 28 won't have to go back and say I got to do that and this because they did it.
Speaker 4:I think it's false, because half them niggas be fucked up out here. You said who? Half them niggas be fucked up out here. Yeah, yeah. Man listen, we all know somebody right now that wasn't in the streets, wasn't doing wrong, might have been spoon fed, might have been, you know, let's just say sheltered. In a way you get what I'm saying. We all know that is probably out here right now, philadelphia, out here wilding right now, doing not on nothing there's a bunch of them out here, so it's a bunch of that from where I'm from dc maryland, all that, where there's a lot of that out here everywhere.
Speaker 4:So, with that being said, I don't. I don't believe that stigma okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So the reason I'm all right. Boom, so you go to college. You didn't finish right, so all right. Finish right, so all right. All right. Now you're not in college. You know who your dad is, you know what he capable of, you know the connections. You got all that and what was it? What was where you going? Yeah, what was your headspace? Like where? Where was you? Like what i'ma do? Like all right, I know this. Boom, I just dropped out like it's you. It's so much going on in your head that you probably don't even focus on like I want to be this or I want to do this. So bring us back to that like when you, you knew you college was done with like um man, I had a hard conversation with some people.
Speaker 4:You know, know my father, a couple uncles, you know this, that and the third yeah, a couple influential people in my life, including my grandfather, pretty much told me nigga it was time to grow up and be a man.
Speaker 4:Like, if you want to, you know, do something this, that. And the third, it don't matter who you know, who you're related to, man, listen, at the same time, niggas ain't trying to hear that shit and ain't nobody going to jeopardize what they got going on because you out here bullshitting right now. Go get yourself together, go do what you need to do. Then come back and let's work. All right, you feel me? I'm a firm believer, bro. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit, bro. I'm gonna go out here and get up every day and go work, and that's what it's going to be. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's what it's going to be, OK, so, like you said, it was a hard conversation and all that. And you know I'm saying I want to.
Speaker 4:I don't want to say a hard conversation, it was just more, like you know, justin, decide what you want to do, decide what you want to be in life right and you know, you take the steps. You take the steps to get there and then we help you, because ain't nobody gonna help nobody, they ain't trying to help themselves okay like you feel me like.
Speaker 3:So what age are are you at this time?
Speaker 4:man, I was probably like hearing this 23, 24 that was well needed bro, 25 I was wrong.
Speaker 1:You needed to hear that, bro, if I had, if I had that type of family that would have been talking to me like that at that age.
Speaker 1:It's all about what I did there bro, I probably would, I probably had six figures bro, Six, seven figures bro. And that's why I be saying, like the reason I broke it down like that for you. You see how I just ask questions that every normal black young adult go through. They be thinking, since your dad this or your mom that or them connections and all it's the same, exact thing, Same.
Speaker 3:Same exact thing.
Speaker 1:Get your shit together, yeah, get your shit together or what Like yeah.
Speaker 4:Anything else don't make sense, man, like I'm not jeopardizing what I got going on because my son fucking up and you know back at them ages between 18 to 25, he was talking about. I was out here up. Yeah, you need to hear that. Yeah, I was out here living for me and I'm living for you know all right.
Speaker 1:So y'all had that conversation. Did it click right there or no? Damn boy, you, you, yeah, yeah, nice over here go, it clicked right there A little half and half Half and half One way in, one way out.
Speaker 4:So I was still, like you know, finding out what I wanted to do, while also trying to do the wrong things the right way, yo we all do that though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to have this little job on the side, but I'm going to yeah. I'm goinga go get the gas, yo, you gonna be one time you get home, but I'ma trap the weed though, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'ma lead the hard way. But I'ma trap the weed.
Speaker 1:He's still doing it. So it's half and half, so would you say it was. Half and half, so would you say it was half and half.
Speaker 4:It was only half and half because I didn't know fully what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, bad, bad, bad If.
Speaker 4:I knew fully what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:You would have made a decision.
Speaker 4:Listen bro. I'm not no dummy either. Listen bro, I'm not the type of person to sit here and act like nothing I was doing was cool. You feel me Shout out to Manny again when he said that shit was lame.
Speaker 3:You feel me Like bro like yeah, it take time to know when you're doing some lame stuff.
Speaker 4:Man, I was being lame around that time Cause it's you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, and this your early twenties, right.
Speaker 4:Early twenties like yeah, late teens, so all the way from there to there.
Speaker 1:You still ain't even know what justin wanted to do in life, basically nah, man, um, eventually I just found out.
Speaker 4:You know, naturally, what I was good at and just try to be around other people.
Speaker 2:That was better than me of what I was good at.
Speaker 4:Yeah and then made my lane around that. So what is that I was good at, you know? Gathering people, getting people in the room, hosting, having parties um, I threw a lot of parties in my room in college. Uh, you know, I was good at connecting the dots. You feel me like, even if I didn't know something, I knew somebody that knew how to do it.
Speaker 1:You feel me Like I was a little bit of Jack of all trades, you feel me so we might having a lot of go party people up here, but it started with the parties.
Speaker 4:Like I can't even I can't even lie with me. As far as my overall brand, it did start with the parties that started with a do say and ratchetship obviously shout out to do say and Asa Spade and all that Shout out to Ducey.
Speaker 2:So that's where, alright, boom, that's perfect. So look, that's what I wanted to know. So, like you in college, you like that. Alright, Pop's home. Pop's got planes going on, he got Ducey going on, he got Duse going on, he got Roc Nation going on. All right, I'm me, I don't want to rob Pops' coattail. Okay, I'm going to throw these parties. Are you thinking in your head like right then, and there, let me get Duse to ambassador this joint? Like, as you work in your brain to the point of that, to utilize Pops in that way at that time?
Speaker 4:To be honest, bro, I was just doing it just to get a job, just to get some money in my pocket, bro, I'm doing it, so I don't got to fucking sell weed on my dorm room.
Speaker 4:Like I said I just knew what I was good at and I was like yo like okay, I see, I just knew what I was good at and I was like yo like okay, I see what I can do at school. Boom, I left school Been to DC. It was just you know. I made my network down there. After that I ran a happy hour here and there, started to get a little club hosting here and there I was like like damn, next thing I know, coming to the club like 20, 30 deep, like yeah so um man, one of my mentors, man shout out to sherry, man shout out to sherry, sherry bryant no no no, no, uh, sherry martin, okay, I can't even lie to you.
Speaker 4:Without sherry probably wouldn't even be no me, okay. She even gave me the confidence to be like yo, like you, can do this, nigga like don't let nobody tell you like what that's your family, what? Um, nah man. So, uh, I met sherry in the office. Sherry was working in the office. She was working with, uh, she worked with my father she was more, like, you know, his, uh, his assistant at the time. Whatever, so I just know her because you know she used to send me all my what office though?
Speaker 1:rock nation or uh planes okay, rock nation, okay it was the same same office, okay at the time. Yeah, so it ain't no more. Not planes as a store, now Rock Nation or Plains Rock Nation Same office.
Speaker 4:So it ain't no more. Nah, Plains is a store now.
Speaker 2:Plains is a store now.
Speaker 4:The office is still the office, but Plains is on Soho.
Speaker 1:Okay, 252.
Speaker 4:Lafayette Street. Man Go visit the Plains store. Man, you heard it here first.
Speaker 2:Go shop.
Speaker 4:Plains Soho, y'all 252.
Speaker 3:Lafayette street. We will be out there on thursday, yeah, and my birthday wednesday too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what you doing, what you are, I don't even know I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go, I'm about to go holler at planes me he all right make sure y'all got some Ace of Spades up there for my man Cash Real rap.
Speaker 1:So because this, all right boom, like I don't know why, bro, like I be really liking like the regular, like you know how you interview rappers, everything, everything about rapping, everything about rap. I like when we have interviews or pods where we like we really sit down and everything about rap. I like when, when I, when we have interviews or pods where we like it's just it's really we really sit down and talk about things in life and how to overcome them. Come on and when you was at this stage, how you feel because you can help the next person, like, for instance, right, how you said you grew up all the way to 20 or 19 something and you, you still ain't know what to do it's some people out here that's going through that right now, and then you say certain steps to how you overcame it or the moves you made, and it can help them, bro bro, I know people 30, 40 years old, older than us, that don't know what the they doing out here.
Speaker 4:That's you know respectfully us that don't know what the they doing out here. That's you know, respectfully. In the way, right, you feel me like right and bro, it don't like I said. That's why I don't believe in that stigma that uh, you said when you, uh, when we first started, I was like, bro, like I don't care who you is, bro, like you know, that's essentially.
Speaker 4:You know what planes and even our whole motto and all that greatness is a process. That's what that's about. You get what I'm saying, right? You feel me it's not about what you're doing or where you come from. You feel me like you gotta think. People from where I've come from, including myself, we all wanted to be my father. Okay, we all wanted to. You know, hustle, do this. You know, take trips out Vegas, blow a bag. We wanted to. You know, hustle, do this. You know, take trips out vegas, blow a bag.
Speaker 2:We wanted to do all that right.
Speaker 4:Don't really like that's, that's every young you know that's every young, young guy dreams like yeah, hell yeah but, especially hearing them stories yeah, like that's, that's crazy after a while. But after a while you gotta also look at reality and be like yo, like I need to hustle, I need to go do this, I need to go do that. You feel me, I need to take the steps to do this, this, that. And the third Like the only difference between my father and anybody else is he just happened to have a best friend that just happened to turn into Jay-Z Right.
Speaker 4:No thanks, no thanks, and that's a dope relationship to have. And don't nobody like what are you down to?
Speaker 1:that for you feel me like.
Speaker 4:If white get a hundred million tomorrow, what the fuck are you talking?
Speaker 1:about.
Speaker 4:Right, what are?
Speaker 1:you talking about.
Speaker 4:You feel me like.
Speaker 1:As far as y'all two think about it.
Speaker 4:Y'all three right now on this pod If white get a hundred million tomorrow. Y'all created this pod together, that's a hundred million tomorrow. Yeah, y'all created this pod together. That's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:That's what we got. You know what I mean you can't fall a nigga for it. Oh.
Speaker 3:White and Cash being best friends, I can't get out of hell and be sitting with these guys and don't be like we all up. You know what I'm saying that's crazy.
Speaker 1:So I already bet oh Crazy, that's literally crazy.
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Speaker 1:Go check us out. Man Got Justin Murray in the back, all right, so boom right, all right, look, let's get into the meat and potatoes real quick All right.
Speaker 1:So, boom, what is exactly? Because one thing I like doing and it be seeming like people don't be catching on, so now I got blatantly just see. One thing I like doing is, when people come up here, I like for them to explain exactly what they are, exactly why they're important, like exactly why you're sitting on this couch, because it's not because Emory, you're dead, it's for other things too, you know, I'm saying. But we might say, yeah, you know what such and such and they are familiar, but that's not why you're sitting up here, though. Like so I want you to explain to the people what is it exactly? As you do, like planes and every time all that like I want you explain to the people, like what's your, what's your, what's your um?
Speaker 3:and where are you going next with it?
Speaker 4:right if you, if you can see that far right now right, um, as far as every town go, man, I am one of a black youth engagement consultants. You know, um, pretty much do activation, uh, activations, and you know youth engagement as far as you know, putting the guns down, doing all that in my city. As far as PG and DC fire, I happen to partner also with tone man. Shout out the tone out there in Baltimore, laura tone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shout out the tone man partner with him.
Speaker 2:Awesome stuff in Baltimore actually.
Speaker 4:Tone is the reason I actually got this relationship with I'm with Tone man, Partner with him on some stuff in Baltimore. Actually, Tone is the reason I actually got this relationship with every time.
Speaker 1:He the reason Manny did too. Yeah for fact. Shout out to him, man, Shout out to him.
Speaker 4:He actually did that. Man Tone just happened to reach out one day, man, it was like my brother was in school doing what he was doing. Man too busy with college at the time, man, he was like, you know, your brother too busy for me for this opportunity. Right now I wasn't, you know, I actually didn't even, you know, believe this could even happen. To be honest, Right, he just brought me to New York with him one day. We went to the Everytown office and, you know, here we are now.
Speaker 1:What about Plains? What about that?
Speaker 4:Plains is just my dad's brand so I do a lot of marketing and stuff with him outside of that. You know pretty much marketing Okay okay.
Speaker 2:Duce.
Speaker 4:Duce, duce, ambassador, asa Spade, ambassador, like I said, that's where the parties and all that stuff came from. Um, I shouted out sherry, because sherry gave me the confidence to be like yo, you could do that, you know, asking for an ambassador just at the third um. So obviously I had a couple parties on my own, got it on camera, just that did it the right way, right put it all into a presentation together, brought it to it to them.
Speaker 4:It was like this is what I'm doing. I'm spending this amount of money on bottles, like you know. I don't know about nowhere else, but party in my city If you don't got no money. That shit high. Like you say, bottles might cost you $4, $5, $5, $500 in my city.
Speaker 1:Let alone, $8,000. That's going to cost you $1,000. So when you because I don't- know, why I'm just so addicted to.
Speaker 4:That shit is a fact, bro. So, like I don't, If I'm lying, I'm flunked, bro. That shit is a fact, that's the case, man.
Speaker 1:The planes brand just was always ain't like I don't work all right, it is one store, but I don't like work you don't work there.
Speaker 4:You got like a corporate type of no, I ain't gonna say it, I'm a corporate. All right, I ain't corporate nothing. He's there as his family.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:Because it could still be his family, but I am an employee, alright, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying Because people say family, but it could just be this, my dad. So I'm rocking, I know that, but they don't know that. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I always ask questions in that because people could just be oh, that's his son, he just that's why he. No, he really doing work there, you feel?
Speaker 2:what I'm saying. So with Roc Nation being one of the black-owned companies that's growing in our culture and you being able to have the luxury of being in the building and in some of those meeting rooms and just watching certain deals that shake up the culture be done, and go on like just talk about being in the midst of that and and just seeing it now I mean like how that make you feel well like the growth of planes the growth of planes and rock nation as and and just a whole um, man, to see the growth of planes is dope, and I remember when obviously it was, you know, rockefeller apparel and all that stuff like right I remember all them days that you, you do too.
Speaker 4:yeah, um, you know, like I said, was really just my father, I did that I just watched him. You know, so blossom. Like you know, I remember at first like I don't even think they really believed in the planes.
Speaker 2:The first you feel me.
Speaker 4:Then my father kept pushing it and you know, obviously, look at us now, right.
Speaker 3:Logo is crazy, though Like is real, unique you know what I'm saying, of course we all made those paper planes in our, our classrooms back in the day. If y'all didn't, then you know, maybe I'm telling my age right now, but you know what I'm saying yeah we definitely made those paper planes. It instantly caught my eye. When I seen them, I stopped copping polo tees and started copping paper plane t-shirts. Yeah, he do got them joints, man. My question was how many siblings you got. Say that again how many siblings? Is it just you?
Speaker 4:Siblings I got a couple brothers and a couple sisters.
Speaker 3:Couple brothers, couple sisters. Were y'all all connected growing up.
Speaker 4:We was all connected, but only me and my youngest brother stayed in the same household.
Speaker 3:All right, all right, all right Now. With that being said, youngest brother, right, mm-hmm? Tough love or y'all tight.
Speaker 4:Oh no, I love my brother to death. Yeah, my brother can't do no wrong with my eyes, mm. Yeah, he's one of those, my brother can't do no wrong with me period.
Speaker 2:That's how I am with my little brother.
Speaker 4:At all hey yo I want to ask this real quick man.
Speaker 3:It's one of those relationships.
Speaker 4:Nah listen, my little brother painted my ass.
Speaker 3:So what he did it, all right, what's up?
Speaker 4:Facts. We're going to talk about it later. Yeah, whether I'm right or wrong, we're going to talk about that later.
Speaker 1:Right, while we talk not to cut you off, bro, no, you good. A lot of people I mean there's 8 billion people in the world, you know what I'm saying so a lot of people can like get advice from people or people be their mentor, whatever, whatever but, like, I really want to know what are some things that your father taught you to do and not be like the like?
Speaker 1:just certain morals and loyalty. And I want to hear, like some, like one or two things that he said to you that like made you look at life A certain way, cause of who he is, because I could sit down with you and say anything, but if you Look at my track record or the experience I got in life, I'm only 26, I can't. So I wanna, I wanna know, like, what's some of the things that he like Taught you or told you that you you had to hold on to Like Um, he told me nobody was ever going to hand me nothing.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's one. And he taught me patience explain that when it's your time, it's your time it's you know it's not. It's not a book he can give you. It's not a book he can give you.
Speaker 3:It's not a book I can give you. You can't force it, you know it's going to happen.
Speaker 4:What's meant for you is meant for you. At the end of the day, you feel me. Even down to like not even halfway being religious about it. But if you a God-fearing man, well bro, your story already written and God already know it. So what's going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, what's some who, some of the who, some of the people that we might be familiar with, like that you not, and not when you was a baby, like you can't even remember. And so, my, you met him when you not that I mean from when you came as far back as you can remember how many people it was like that's important to the culture that you met, being as though your family is who they are.
Speaker 4:In my lifetime, or like as like a kid.
Speaker 1:In your lifetime. It might be too much right.
Speaker 4:I think as a kid it's too much.
Speaker 1:Huh.
Speaker 4:I think as a kid it's too much too as a kid.
Speaker 1:It's too much, too Damn. All right, like top three, then Top three people.
Speaker 4:That was influential in my life.
Speaker 1:No, not influential. Yeah, just like. That's important to the culture that you have met and had a conversation with. You know what I'm saying, whether it was business or them just knowing your father.
Speaker 4:I can't do a top three because I don't want to leave nobody out.
Speaker 1:Okay, but you obviously met. There's some people bro. Yeah, I was I'm I don't want to leave some people out.
Speaker 3:That looks crazy bro.
Speaker 4:But hold one of them, of course right, yeah, but I don't really have those type of conversations with him. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, everybody. Nah, I'm Like is he an influential person in my life? Yeah, Of course he's so influential to everybody but, like you know, he is just hope to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, facts, for real Facts.
Speaker 4:Cause, um, Like not saying that. Oh, for real though I get it.
Speaker 2:But feel you. Nah, nah.
Speaker 3:After you become friends with somebody or you're around somebody for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 4:No, not even saying I be around him like that. It's literally not a bro bro, I don't be around him like that bro Listen bro, you ever heard of a thing like matter of fact, you know, I'm a firm believer in this, bro. Everybody friends ain't your friends bro. Right, like bro, that's my father, friend bro.
Speaker 3:That's not my friend, that's not my homeboy, bro talk.
Speaker 2:That's my father, friend bro.
Speaker 4:I don't have nothing to. You know, we'll go on there I don't even talk.
Speaker 1:Yo look, bro, when I'm with my father.
Speaker 3:Jay, don't have nothing to. You know we'll go on there. I don't even talk. Yo, look bro, you're not even in a conversation when I'm with my father.
Speaker 4:Jay, don't even come up Real right, like we don't even do, like bro when I'm with my father it's a real father-son relationship. We spend, you know, quality time that we don't get because he's busy.
Speaker 3:I'm busy, he's working.
Speaker 4:I'm a father-son relationship.
Speaker 3:When your dad came home, was he able to build with everybody the same way, Like are your brothers and sisters? His yeah.
Speaker 2:Was he able to?
Speaker 3:build with y'all like all together at one point, like when he first came home?
Speaker 4:Yeah, of course, when he came home it was all love, you know Because?
Speaker 3:you said it was just you and your little brother in the same home growing up together. So I just wanted to know what that felt like with all y'all getting together. Pop on.
Speaker 4:No, but when my?
Speaker 2:father came home.
Speaker 4:My father respectfully who he was. He went right off to work. Oh, all right, bro, my father ain't miss a beat. When he came home, my father went to work, bro.
Speaker 3:You told me last time we was talking. Sorry people, but last time we was talking it was like dad didn't miss anything. You know what I'm saying? He didn't.
Speaker 4:He showed up Yo listen the whole time my father was gone him 12 and a half years bro. I didn't miss a Christmas or nothing, right. He carried it. My father made sure I had a bike. Every Christmas a new bike every.
Speaker 2:Christmas yeah, that's fire, that is a fact Heavy From behind the wall, from here, from behind the wall.
Speaker 2:Man, my father made sure I had a new bike every christmas. So being able to like for him coming home, you know, right, when you graduating, and that's basically like you coming into being a man, it's like he coming home at a very important time in your life and then you said you was like on bullshit for a little bit. You went to school, you come home from school, whatever. Then you start actually doing the things that you do now. Now, with with you being an adult and now you got your father in your life and him being such a um, an important fixture in our culture and you being able to be right there learning hands-on, like, does that motivate you even more to like be successful in the things that you do? Because I ask you that? Because it's like, it's like, of course, you could do the things that you do in planes or over there at d, say a speed, or even rock nation inside the building or whatever, but you still do things like for like every town.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, listen, listen, I mean every listen, every time, bro, I owe them a lot man. Um, them people gave me a way that I owe them a lot man. Them people gave me a way, that a way in the lane. I didn't even think I could go myself you can ask.
Speaker 2:Tone, you can ask.
Speaker 4:Maddie, bro, you can ask my man right here, bro, I wasn't in the midst of saving people bro. I'm not in the midst of that, bro, cause you know.
Speaker 2:I also.
Speaker 4:Not only that, I also because you know, I also understand, bro, like you know. I understand what poverty brings. I understand what certain things bring to certain neighborhoods and I understand you know gun violence and people dying. Like everybody in here, got a dead homie that had been shot before.
Speaker 4:You feel me. I find that real crazy. You feel me, I find that real crazy, you feel me. Even Tone man, it took a lot of convincing on my part to even be a part of something like this, but when I got in the building they showed me real mad love and they rolled out a red carpet for me and, you know, not only allowed me to do something great and allowed me to do something I never thought I could do, but you know, they gave me that feeling like yeah, see, cause like cause, like us starting this pod and it thriving so fast, we um, we'll get caught up in work or like inside these phones, or just like being on point with the it or what's going on with the times, but having like a Manny 2 and 5 that has the foundations that he had and pulling us apart to be a part of it, I mean just to show
Speaker 2:us like the impact that we got on the culture and the community, that be important and I'm glad to like I was glad to be able to be a part of it and to see it. And then like I get to meet people like you and we click and been homies in the family ever since, so it's like that type stuff be important because they would think, like I'm being his nephew, you Emory son, they'd think we had meet in a club or something or at a meeting. We meet at a community.
Speaker 1:Give it back to kids. That's crazy, because if I never, if Manny never hired me to host at his tour, you wouldn't even be sitting there. Facts. That's why I say, bro, it's God, it really beats.
Speaker 4:And if Manny never just invited me, it was like yo, I got five shows, can you make it to tour? I was like I'm there.
Speaker 1:We connected with Chu from that tour Mana Ike, I'm there. We connected with Chu from that tour Munna.
Speaker 2:Ikey Raji's.
Speaker 1:Raji's Shoebox came down. Shout out to Shoebox and Munna from Chicago. That's what I'm saying. We did a positive thing, and the outcome was a positive relationship with Chu.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. You do want the good thing for the community and for the kids and for the people, and you will get blessed 10 times.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Now I mean. So it's like you know the people that's out here, that that might be in them clubs, or be in the studio, wherever, wherever the the place may be, you know I mean and, and somebody offer you or come up to you with an idea or got something or have something going on for the community, man you know, extend your hand to try to be a part of it, because you never know what coming from it, and it don't have to be a million dollars. It could be a million dollars worth of relationships or resources.
Speaker 4:Because relationships is more than money, man. That's a fact.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so alright. From you not knowing what you even going to do at a certain age, all the way to now, you ambassador for this, you marketing for that. You every time. You, what are you marketing for that? You every town, you activist, basically.
Speaker 4:Nah, I'm a consultant.
Speaker 1:A consultant. So from you not knowing what you was even going to do, period all the way to that, now you doing more things, that's in the. Tell the people how you was able to maintain like the whole, I was able to maintain like like the whole. I'm gonna be something like I or I. As long as I keep doing xyz, i'ma get xyz, explain to the people with what those those things was that made you last, and and get to where you need to be.
Speaker 1:You know man, just realizing that the work not done, bro.
Speaker 4:The work not done, yeah, like you know, even with me and everything I got going on right now, you know it's still not my end goal, you know Okay. My end goal is different than your end goal different than your end goal different than your end goal you know, okay, my end goal is different than your end goal, different than your end goal, different than your end goal. But I just don't think I'm at my end goal yet. That's what drives me, because I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1:You satisfied where you at right now, though.
Speaker 4:Not at all, not even a little bit, not even a little bit, not even a little bit. Man, because me and White was just talking about this man, you got a lot to do.
Speaker 1:No, that ain't good all the time, though, cole. Why For him to be doing all the things he's doing and succeeding and ain't satisfied even a little bit? I mean, you got a lot more work to do. No, no, that's being too hard on yourself, and that's why people be, because, listen right, I'm pretty sure that right now, all the things you need in life I'm pretty sure you got need, but all the things you want is like that's what you thinking about and that's what you shopping for. And that's when we get caught, because I do that. I'm a victim of that, like Corey is too.
Speaker 4:We want to be the best of the best. I can agree with that, but only to a certain extent.
Speaker 3:Me too. Okay, to a certain extent. To a certain extent, you need that under your no, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying it's bad to be like that. He said he ain't satisfied, not even a little bit, bro.
Speaker 3:You gotta understand the rooms he walking in and the deals and stuff he hearing, bro, okay go ahead.
Speaker 4:My mom get up at seven o'clock in the morning, go to work every day still. That's why it's okay, see what I'm saying okay, yeah my mom get up at 7 o'clock. I don't want my mom. I want my mom to wake up when she feel like it. Okay, I feel you If my mom feel like I want to go to Aruba tomorrow and stay for a month and I want my son to pay for it.
Speaker 1:I want to be able to do that I'm agreeing with what you're saying.
Speaker 4:It's just like me, bro, I've been going. I'm just saying like I'm a hustler.
Speaker 1:I like that, though, yo what he say.
Speaker 3:He say but I want my son to pay for it.
Speaker 4:Hold up Hold up.
Speaker 1:Because look right, because look this the thing, bro, this is the thing, right. A lot of people Go through that Like a lot of people Like RABET, this podcast and this ain't no interview, I mean everybody could put. They input Me, for example, right, I really like been Back and forth the jail placements and all that Bro. So when I reach the littlest stuff, even though I know there's way more work to do, but I be grateful and satisfied to a certain point because I know where my life was at and where it can be at.
Speaker 4:Yeah, feel me no. So I get what you said. So I'm satisfied with them and, like I told White earlier, I was like yo bro you got to come to DC and come hang with me and just, you know, celebrate your small wins.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you feel me. That's crazy. You know, like I told White, if you don't celebrate your small wins, what the fuck are y'all even doing this podcast for? Like this is a great win for y'all. Like y'all really doing this shit in Philly, bro, in a tough city to you know, really do shit in. You get what I'm saying, especially something positive. You get what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying Toughest. Yeah for sure, since y'all doing something positive and doing this movement, man, like small win, you'd feel me like it's okay to white boy. Come to dc, you get what I'm saying, come with me. Like white boy said he was too busy, I was like, bro, you're not too busy for a good time, bro, because you have to celebrate your small ones.
Speaker 3:My man always tell me that he'd be like bro you got to, bro, you got to I'm really all this, and I'm one of them.
Speaker 1:I'm really one of them that don't have no fun. That's crazy, I don't be going nowhere, yeah, no, I definitely feel that, though, because you can't pay for fun. Huh, and it's like you got to have that self-love and self-time. Yeah, I'm coming out.
Speaker 2:I mean you can, but it ain't nothing like you got to have that time for you Like. Think about it, bro.
Speaker 4:We doing all this work to get money at the end of the day, but at the same time, the only enjoyment you gonna get out of this shit is Watching everybody else enjoy it. And we all gonna come in here fresh as shit and look at each other like come on, that's crazy yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, so you saying I need to go out a little more?
Speaker 4:I'm saying you need to enjoy your time, enjoy my more.
Speaker 2:I'm saying you need to enjoy your time.
Speaker 4:Enjoy my time.
Speaker 3:Say you need to enjoy yourself, but what I don't because, because whatever that is to you for, somebody else to go enjoy their time on your time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That what I mean by that. Like my grandfather right.
Speaker 4:You're going to pay for a situation you only want to be there all day but he, like I'm not going to.
Speaker 3:he bless the family, you know like pass the money out dirt bikes with the kids one.
Speaker 3:But did my grandpa what? Was he satisfied? We need to think about that right why he was it, you know. I'm saying so like it just be those small little things. But we do work hard for our families and stuff so they can enjoy it. But you definitely gotta take them a little small wins, I ain't gonna lie bro, like I'd be looking at that like this right like like see it like all right, lebron team versus the other team.
Speaker 1:It's six seconds on the clock. Somebody hit a three. Start celebrating brown. Like no, I don't celebrate, ain't over yet. Like that's how I be Feeling about when, like going out and celebrating, like I be feeling yeah, I be feeling like I'm not in the right Position To be celebrating. Like I will celebrate For a whole week, if really the most Ink a deal For our pie.
Speaker 4:Like things like that. What is the right position?
Speaker 3:Let me tell you, our first time we should have celebrated was that 10K subscribers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we ain't do nothing.
Speaker 3:That's a celebration right there for me, and my eyes, that's a small win.
Speaker 4:You got to celebrate the small wins, bro, it's not easy to have 10K subscribers in five months on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, even like my birthday.
Speaker 3:Unless you doing something Tomorrow, now.
Speaker 1:It's past 12. Yeah, it's past 12. It's my birthday tomorrow. Now, bro, I ain't doing like bro, like I'm like.
Speaker 4:I wasn't even going. Man, come holler at me man. Yeah, for sure, I got you man.
Speaker 1:So all right back Back to it you just jack of all trades party promotion.
Speaker 3:He just gave you therapy just now, ducey ambassador, marketing consultant.
Speaker 1:Like you, just jack are all trees. So I'm gonna ask you this right, you said you ain't see yourself saving people out doing this, and that you said you didn't see yourself doing a lot of things that you did. So what do justin want to do now? Like, what is justin from sitting on his couch moving on forward? What's your goal?
Speaker 2:now.
Speaker 1:Like what is it now, since you know you got different talents and abilities to do things you didn't even know you could do.
Speaker 4:Man, I think I'm back in a different type of mode. I'm back in a different type of mode. I'm back halfway, not saying I'm going backwards, but in a sense like I'm here and I am proud of myself, where I am and where I come from and what I'm doing now. I think I'm at that stage now where I am thinking about what's next, but I don't know what that looks like for me yet.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Man, that's the what's next episode. Man, what's?
Speaker 1:next, what's next? But I don't know what that looks like for me yet. Okay, okay, okay, man. That's the what's next episode, man. What's next, what's?
Speaker 3:next man, real rap man, because I'm for real. Like we can't just say it's so like my phone.
Speaker 4:I mean to cut you off, but like what? I mean? Like I don't know what's next. It's like I know the positions that I am right now. I can go higher in them positions. You get what I'm saying. So, since I haven't reached them peaks yet, it's more like you know.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 4:I'm still trying to figure it out because I'm still trying to accomplish a you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Being where my dad is and plays. One day you feel me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
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Speaker 4:Shout out to the most man. Shout out to the pod.
Speaker 1:Do you be getting annoyed, bro? Keep it real, Like when you tell people who your dad is, bro.
Speaker 4:Oh, you're like sharing that shit with me, yeah.
Speaker 1:I hate it. Yeah, he started like. That's why I said we going to get all that out the way.
Speaker 2:That's what I said when I said go on there and talk about that type of shit.
Speaker 4:I don't want to introduce myself like that, because you feel me I'd rather for you to fuck with me, because you fuck with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I ain't going to hold you, bro. We only brung that up when we met you and when you sit down on the pod. We never talk about Emory, like we never. So, yeah, when you're dead, we never do that. It's either when we met you and when you sat down for the pod last time and this time.
Speaker 4:Because I tell niggas all the time like you know I understand who he is now and you know the influence he got now, but that's still my dad's world Like that is not emory vegas jones.
Speaker 2:to me that is my dad, bro, that's it bro he wanted to fly his in the culture, bro man and he got this mystique about him because we just was hearing about him for so long. And I mean, then he finally come home and then we see like, so it's like. That's why I know, that's why people be like damn, like, you know what I mean. Then they get to see you and shit, then you be fly.
Speaker 1:So it'd be like, damn, like you know what I mean A chip off the old block. I mean. He said $95,000 for a wine bill. Keep it real with you, that was a wine bill. My whole team bro. Real rap Like bro he bro. The team ball real rap like bro he bro. The things he. That was crazy yo the things he be saying be like, yo like, and I always think it's never just hove.
Speaker 2:I always think about hove. Your dad biggs um like just as a collective. All of them feel me like it was as a collective when you listen to a reasonable doubt. That's how hovev made it, like you know, I mean if everybody click is rich, click is right.
Speaker 1:You know he always put the whole you mean but I ain't going to go, bro, like that. That. What you doing with every town means it's powerful bro.
Speaker 2:Super like it's powerful. Super.
Speaker 1:We definitely, definitely not going go on to anything else without you. And you can explain it to the t as much as you want. I don't care how long you take explaining them what you're doing in the dmv with them.
Speaker 4:Schools, bro oh, man, my business partner, neil man. Uh, we was going back and forth for probably like a year, man, I wanted to really involve myself into what Neil was doing. Ever since I got introduced to Evertown by Tony and him you know me and Neil have been going back and forth, man, and you know he came with me to a play. He came with me to about 20, 25 schools that you know. Believed in our mission, believed in what we wanted to do.
Speaker 4:Every town just happened to back our engine into what we was doing, man. So we reached out to about I want to say, 10-plus schools already, reached over to about 1,200 to 1,400 students, man, that all look like us, that all come from where we come from. Whether it was a conversation, we threw a couple concerts with local DMV rappers that the kids look up to, and everything, man, and it was a beautiful thing to see man. So, like I said, man, shout out to Evertown, shout out to Students, demand Action. Just for you know, speaking with me and being here, I commend you, bro.
Speaker 1:shout out to every town, shout out to students to be in action. Just for you know, I commend you, bro, I'm listening in the dmv area.
Speaker 4:You know, is it? You got a name for that story.
Speaker 1:It's the uh motivated, motivating your youth tour. Motivated, motivate your youth. Yeah, motivating your youth tour, all right. So if you in a DMV, eric, because we are pulling up, you know what I'm saying. Really the most is pulling up. You feel me.
Speaker 2:I know it.
Speaker 1:After we do it for the kids, we going to do it for the adult later at the club. You feel what I'm saying, I know it what happens in DC stays in DC man Real rap. Nah, bro, it's just Yo. One more thing, too A lot of people. One thing I noticed about my city, bro a lot of people be calling themselves somebody manager and don't know what, don't know what they doing, don't know what it consists of.
Speaker 1:They be saying they the ambassador for this. I don't know what, don't know what they doing, don't know what it consists of. They be saying they the ambassador for this. I don't know what it consists of so can you like explain a little bit, like all right, first stop, first start with marketing consulting. What's like the duties of with that?
Speaker 4:um, it all depends who you marketing, consulting for, but for every town, what me, manny and Tone do, it's more just giving them the keys and the jewel of how to approach black youth about gun violence. You know, it's not about the message half the time it's usually about the messenger who give it to you.
Speaker 2:The approach, you get what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying Like I could be. For example, we could all go out with Philly right now, right? Mind you, this ain't my city. You get what I'm saying, Right? Somebody in the street might say I'm tripping, and maybe I really am. You get what I'm saying. Maybe I'm tripping.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's the difference between them telling me I'm tripping than white cash. We're more pokey to say, because of you tripping.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:Because I'm not going to take the message from him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm taking from you, okay, and then just like these kids that we're talking to.
Speaker 2:No, that's understandable.
Speaker 4:They only want less of the certain individuals. I think about it. Think about that dumb ass shit they did us as kids, man. What's that shit, we all went through.
Speaker 2:The DARE program. Remember that shit.
Speaker 4:You brought a white cop with a gun and a badge to tell us to put the guns down and stop smoking weed and do this, that and the third Right when the same white cop you in our neighborhoods. You robbing us, you kicking down our doors, you stopping us for no reason, you locking us up.
Speaker 2:You're kicking down our doors. You're stopping us for no reason, you're killing us in the middle of the street.
Speaker 3:You're locking us the fuck up. Why the fuck am I going to go listen to you, nigga yeah.
Speaker 4:So you know what? Just because it's you giving me the message, you don't the fuck you. The first thing we did in eighth and ninth grade we went out and smoked some weed. Nigga, Fuck this, Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:So if it was a black cop you would have listened to it.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:Man, you ain't listening either way.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to say no, I'm not going to say yes, but I'm just telling you what was brought to me. They brought a white cop in our school.
Speaker 3:And that was the message they preached to us. We had this boy, mr Smith, bro from their program and he will pluck the hell hell out. You like. If you did something like you wouldn't even see it coming, like the pluck behind the air drone. Like mr smith was a boy man, he's a plug.
Speaker 3:No, they probably don't know who mr smith is, but mr smith was a boy down our way in our schools, like if y'all know who mr smith is, look that boy up. He probably changed a lot of people's lives before it went there. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, man um the cash was in jail, so yeah, I was in jail. No, dare nothing he didn't get to see all that that was there they had damn, but he kind of stopped them from going where the young cash had to go.
Speaker 1:You, you know what I'm saying For real, for real. That's why I'm in fixated with every channel.
Speaker 4:What if Cash and I'm not saying you didn't have this, I don't know but what if Cash had a real big homie back in the day that would've pulled Cash up and say nigga, you being stupid right now, stop doing that Never had it. Imagine if Cash had a big brother, a big uncle, somebody you know that was, if not anything else, a voice of reason.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:You get what I'm saying, like I think that's what we don't have, you get what I'm saying. We don't have no voice of reason. The voice of reason is too old and too stuck in the way that they giving the message the wrong way.
Speaker 2:That's why I commend you. I commend Manny215. Like it'd be important to get in front of that. You know what I'm saying? It's super important because these kids have to have something else to look up to Facts. Anything else is just going to facts.
Speaker 4:now I mean facts of anything else is just gonna be that and and with old they gotta be more than just your track record, like yo. Matter of fact, man, yo I watched, uh, uh, gillian wallow interview. Uh, hold it no with me. Oh, with me, man, listen, I agree with everything meek said. Meek said nigga, we don't give a fuck about that. Benz used to drop in 92. We don't give a fuck about that Benz. You got right now.
Speaker 4:We're not trying to hear all that shit, y'all grew up on All them old war stories, most of y'all old niggas wasn't even, you know respectfully as far as like a household and being loved the right way you know, having a voice of reason. Yeah, y'all ain't have that. Yeah, how the fuck you gonna tell us to do something that y'all niggas ain't have, Right yeah? Like get the fuck outta here.
Speaker 4:Oh facts though that's a fact, you know who them niggas looked up to. They looked up to fucking drug dealers and all that shit like. That's it, he do not lead in a blind fix to tell somebody got to you know you want to change the change the structure of shit man and just realize like after we grew up on was bullshit.
Speaker 2:I told people all the time I'd be like yo, when you come around me.
Speaker 3:Bro, the stuff you learned in life you might have to go and relearn, bro. Fags bro, pick up a book and go relearn.
Speaker 2:You got to deprogram yourself, to reprogram yourself.
Speaker 3:I say that shit all the time, maybe your brother or sister.
Speaker 4:Nigga you ain't seen since fucking you a junior senior in high school. Come to you right now talking about Dina Nigga. You don't fucking know me, man. Nigga, we went to school with each other, Nah for real though, Nigga, I ain't seen you in 10, 15 years bro, I am not the same person bro.
Speaker 3:You cannot just walk up on me like that. Not much shit changed in six months.
Speaker 2:We went to school together. That's six years.
Speaker 3:Not much shit changed in six months Bro.
Speaker 4:what talking about?
Speaker 1:yeah, bro, I ain't gonna hold you like it's definitely, definitely like I don't. Because all right people gotta understand that, like majority of the time, the people who be in your position like like fell and it's because they'll go to college that don't work out, or they'll do this and that and that don't work out, and then they don't know how to rebound from it.
Speaker 3:Because they be silver spoon, bro, yeah, pivot. Boom Spoon fed they pivot be shitty, and then they parents be expecting them to bounce right back off of being spoon fed and don't go ahead and work. How yeah, bounce right back off of being spoon fed now go ahead and work, yeah yeah, you done gave everything to me, my whole life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not game is to be sold, not told exactly, and I ain't gonna lie, bro, like I ain't gonna lie, bro, for you to be like all right.
Speaker 1:So I'm gonna tell you right to your face how you came up like us. I'm gonna tell you how you so special Like you're really really really special Right Everything that you doing right now, you ain't even know you was going to be doing Period, feel me. You ain't grow up saying you want to market this or consult that or ambassador that. It just fell in your lap, bro, so that shows you right there.
Speaker 4:My dream growing up was every little boy's dream. If you let me tell it, I was gonna go hoop bro, I was gonna. I fucked around paying for the sixes right now, nigga like, if you would let me tell it, bro. Three million other people too, bro, listen bro. I literally did not know I would be doing the stuff I'm doing. I literally just happen to bump into everything and just happen to have good relationships with people, yeah, but I want you to really take heed to that.
Speaker 1:Take heed to what I said, though, bro. For real, we know we got to work, work, work, work, work, work, like Rihanna. We know we got to do that. Everybody know that. We know the sky to do that. Everybody know that. We know the sky. The sky is the limit, you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying but we still got to give ourselves the credit where it's due. Because that's how you overdo it. You know what I'm saying. You thinking accomplishments that you received and accomplished. We thinking that ain't nothing because we trying to have nine that you received and accomplished. We thinking that ain't nothing because we trying to have nine, 10, 11 figures in our joint and do this and everything we want to do. But whole time your needs, like taking care of yourself and your household and staying up to par, making sure you don't look dusty or you got food. You got those. Those are the needs. So if you got all your needs and you saying you ain't satisfied at all, not even a little bit, then it's like all right, maybe, maybe, maybe you think I'm talking about the business part yeah I think that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'm not talking about me personally, Like no, as far as me personally. Man, listen, I'm healthy, my family healthy. You know, I did lose my grandfather recently.
Speaker 1:Same for your lungs, man, yeah thank you, my condoms.
Speaker 4:But outside of that, nah bro, I can actually say I'm probably at for the long time but, the most time I'm probably at the most peace in my life I've been in.
Speaker 1:I like that man.
Speaker 2:I just think like damn, it's just so dope right to meet you. We didn't meet on the terms like people would think we would meet on and then like for you to be who you are and then us remain and obtain our relationship. It's just dope, bro, bro, and I love what you're doing over there, and I mean anytime I can help. You know, we here, bro, of course of course, man, of course um.
Speaker 1:Is it anything else? You want your ig? Tell them what you're working on, tell them what they can expect to the people out there.
Speaker 4:Nah, not really man. I just want to say shout out to Real of the Most Podcast man.
Speaker 2:Shout out to White Cash and Core man. Appreciate you, my boy.
Speaker 4:I want to give y'all y'all flowers and say yo, I appreciate and love everything y'all doing for the city of Philadelphia. Man, I definitely see that shit in DC. Man, thank you for having me on your pod, man for real man.
Speaker 1:Thank you bro. Thank you Much obliged man.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Tell them your.
Speaker 4:Instagram name though man Justin Murray man.
Speaker 1:Justin Murray Everywhere man Okay, Everywhere Okay, go ahead, white boy.
Speaker 2:So y'all know I mean it's rather than most. So you know we can't leave y'all without doing this, and I just want to let y'all suckers know I mean, I got family in high places, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You never know. Like you know what I'm saying, it might be a rather than most Roc Nation deal.
Speaker 2:Plains deal on the table for you.
Speaker 1:Suckers, you fucking nuts.
Speaker 2:So we ready to get into fast track. Fast track we play. It's a game we play on here. It ain't nothing too crazy. You just pick one or the other. I normally start with this one.
Speaker 1:I'm still going to no you got to choose you got to choose.
Speaker 3:I ain't going to make it that hard. You're going to be able to pick somebody so.
Speaker 1:No, because we realized it was. I mean going to my best state property or major figures State property Wiley or shot Lizzie, shot Lizzie.
Speaker 2:Or Shag Lizzy, shag, lizzy Um.
Speaker 4:And when I answer this, it's all love and everything but.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who I prefer or who I probably just gotta yeah, yeah who I actually know All right Um G-Unit or Diplomats, diplomats G unit or diplomats Monica or Keisha cold Monica. Chris Brown or Usher.
Speaker 4:Usher.
Speaker 2:Usher Rockefeller or Rough Riders Rockefeller. Yeah, thank God, I'm so glad I still got acid pussy Go-go. Uh, go, go, go, go or a drill.
Speaker 1:Huh.
Speaker 4:Go go.
Speaker 1:Go go.
Speaker 4:Go go. Go, go, All right, bet Um drill, because drill overrated depending on who doing it. So go, go like, because if I'm going to say drill, I'm only going to think of really like three or four people.
Speaker 2:I'm going to keep it real bro. I fucking love go go music bro. I fucking love go go music bro.
Speaker 4:Bro, I fucking love, go, go go. Then we take that nigga to Babylon on a Wednesday Wild out, i'ma go crazy in there bro.
Speaker 2:I'ma go crazy in there bro. I love Gold bro.
Speaker 4:Yo, y'all gotta bring White to DC, bro, and I love when Wale.
Speaker 2:I love when Wale do a Go-Go record or a Glizzy. I like when the regular rapper type niggas do the Go-Go records. I love that shit.
Speaker 3:Fucking.
Speaker 2:Jeezy with Circa Late. I love them. Goggle records, bro.
Speaker 1:There you go, let's go.
Speaker 4:You ready, yup.
Speaker 3:Shout out Glizzy Wild A I just said that bro.
Speaker 2:I ain't hear you say that my fault he is crazy, my fault.
Speaker 3:I ain't hear you say that.
Speaker 4:Well, how?
Speaker 3:many you said.
Speaker 4:He said like four or five.
Speaker 2:I gave him a clip. You did eight of them. I gave him a clip.
Speaker 3:Couldn't even get none off.
Speaker 2:I shot my clip. This thing's about. Here we go.
Speaker 3:Because I'm trying to keep it. I'm like let's keep this rolling.
Speaker 1:Let's get to the next game. Come on, let's get this rolling. How many of you put up against him? What's the nigga name? It's the boy name who got locked up.
Speaker 4:Y'all ain't name no Philly rappers. Y'all ain't do none of that.
Speaker 1:Are you on Philly?
Speaker 3:We going to do one guy to go.
Speaker 2:No hold. On, Go ahead, you want to do Philly? No hold on. Go ahead.
Speaker 4:You wanna do Philly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4:You can, it's not gonna be Shoot.
Speaker 2:Why you holding your clip Shoot Go ahead All right Shoot.
Speaker 1:Yo.
Speaker 3:Bet you.
Speaker 1:Quilly or Joey Jihad.
Speaker 4:Joey, joey For me, like bro. I remember like when we first even started listening to Philly Battle Rap man, I was in middle school. We used to watch that shit all day, every day, in our like laptops, like to the point I know some of them freestyles by heart to this day, damn freestyles by heart to this day. Like I'm talking like Jahag Quilly, nh Reed Meek, all the like, bro.
Speaker 3:We really listened to them. Freestyles on the DMV back in the day. Go ahead, cash.
Speaker 1:All right, Meek or Reed.
Speaker 4:Meek Meek.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4:I think Meek y'all best rapper in Philly overall.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to say Meek versus anybody.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, and that's bias too, like that's probably one of my favorite rappers, so I'm biased.
Speaker 1:Who Meek? Yeah, all right, bet All right. We're going to do One God go, cause he said a lot of them. So we going to do one guy to go. You burnt us out. So this is just the opposite. You just asked me who I listened to no not him.
Speaker 3:Not you, not you, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:We going to do one guy go, all right. So this is of here. You feel me? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:That's what I was waiting on.
Speaker 1:Me Um NH Meek Reed or Joy J NH. We got to go All right, bet, bet, bet Uh.
Speaker 3:Want me to shoot one for the hood? Uh-huh, I got one for you. Go ahead, State pop Beans. Chris Freeway.
Speaker 1:Beans young Chris Freeway.
Speaker 3:Oskino.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Oskino.
Speaker 1:Beans.
Speaker 4:Who got to go? Hold on, say that list again, beans.
Speaker 3:Beans, chris Freeway.
Speaker 1:Oskino Beanie Single Young. Chris Freeway and Oskino.
Speaker 4:Oskino who got to go. I can't choose what Yo.
Speaker 1:Beanie single young Chris freeway and Oskeno. Oskeno, who got to go? I can't choose what Yo you got to choose, you got to choose.
Speaker 3:Somebody got to go. They got to pack their bags, man.
Speaker 4:Beans freeway, chris and Oskeno Oskeno.
Speaker 3:Who got to go? Bro, One of them got to go. Who you keeping? All right, just say who the top three you going to keep.
Speaker 2:That's hard bro.
Speaker 3:Keep your top three out of the way. All right, O'Skina might go.
Speaker 1:Hold on O'Sk right Skeeno might go Hold on Skeeno yeah.
Speaker 4:Hold on Beans Freeway, chris and Skeeno. Damn, I don't know bro, I really don't bro, I really don't bro, I really don't bro, Damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we might got to skip that one. I don't know, bro. It's really optional for real, for real on that joint.
Speaker 2:It's whoever, but Jeezy TI Gucci man, yo Gotti One got to go.
Speaker 4:TI For me. Why y'all?
Speaker 3:be playing with TI like that. I don't like that y'all do that to my man.
Speaker 4:I ain't even playing with him paper planes. You can't do that, yo listen when I'm even doing this, I'm just doing off like who was influential for me at one point or another. I remember specifically banging Gucci mixtapes every fucking morning before school.
Speaker 1:I respect that your Gotti was more influenced than you, than TI, bro. Listen, bro Gotti, she mix tapes every fucking morning before school. I respect that. So your Gotti was more influenced than you, than TI.
Speaker 4:Bro listen bro, gotti out all the way, bro Listen bro.
Speaker 2:Five-star chick. I need a five-star chick. Bro, bro, bro.
Speaker 4:What? That nigga back in the day? To us that might have been a trap. Nigga diary back in the day, bro, like real shit bro, y'all be going crazy Like I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2:You know DC and Gotti got a real yeah, like, bro like. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Gotti own part of like a soccer team out there Like he's a piece of our soccer team in DC.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gotti, influence out. Dc is crazy.
Speaker 4:He one of the first rappers that embraced Shot Glizzy like early on. Matter of fact, he was the only rapper that really embraced Shaw Glizzy early on. Back in the day like that yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:The real bassist. God he was like the first first one.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it three ways.
Speaker 3:No, it's different.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do it three this time. I'm going to say three people.
Speaker 4:Fat Troll Shaw.
Speaker 1:Fat Trail, sha or Wale. One gotta go. Man niggas, you got him on trail.
Speaker 4:For me, and I'm always saying for me, Wale might gotta go.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, damn, Because people really don't understand how much Trell really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they love Gleef, they ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying like musically, though. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:That's what.
Speaker 1:I'm only talking about Nah, everybody don't know that, bro. I'm like musically, though that's what I'm talking about. I'm only talking about. Everybody don't know that, bro. I'm talking about DC, though.
Speaker 4:Philly might not know that, but DC gonna know that.
Speaker 2:And listen, bro, there's no disrespect to Wale bro, like period bro, but like you know, wale more for the ladies, you know that's not something I'm just going to bang in my car every day, ladies, you know, that's not something I'm just going to bang in my car every day. I love for Lauren, yeah.
Speaker 3:He just got hung over the balcony and his feet was in the air and all that they were saying it's making it crazy Babyface Ray.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Babyface Ray, pz Doughboy Cash out in Rio. One got to go.
Speaker 1:White boy, what Doughboy, doughboy, doughboy.
Speaker 2:Go ahead Cash.
Speaker 4:What you say, gaga, whoever Doughboy.
Speaker 1:Cash Doughboy.
Speaker 2:Cash out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, Probably in that list he had to go for me, yeah that's for real. All right, man, it's the last one, all right.
Speaker 3:Last one.
Speaker 1:Ain't no person who what they. You know what I mean. Just what they did in the culture. Nothing personal, Please don't take it personal Birdman who gotta go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Birdman.
Speaker 1:P Diddy Jay-Z or Dr J.
Speaker 3:One gotta go.
Speaker 1:That mean everybody signed the shit. They produced everything going.
Speaker 3:One of them gotta go. Who gotta pack they bags? Oh man, Somebody gotta get a suitcase.
Speaker 4:Them and everybody they with though.
Speaker 1:Anything they did.
Speaker 3:Anything they did, accomplished, worked with, signed gone.
Speaker 4:To me it got to be Master P, because my go-to is Jay and Wayne.
Speaker 1:I ain't see Master P. We ain't see Master P. What? Do y'all say that's why I always see T Kim out, jay-z, uh-huh, right, birdman, birdman. Dr Dre and Diddy.
Speaker 4:Oh, diddy gone. No personal, it's not personal.
Speaker 2:Biggie though.
Speaker 3:Biggie 112? Mary J.
Speaker 1:Face up, you got to think about that before you get answering bro, you got to.
Speaker 4:I mean I'm going to keep Mary J. You said Jay.
Speaker 1:I said Jay--z dr jp diddy berman mary j found the locks too.
Speaker 3:Now she did david's mary j artist. So just be aware who you gonna cut. So just be aware of who you're going to cut. You got to cut big On the go, or what.
Speaker 4:What were you doing? No, I ain't doing nothing that ain't even an option for him. What is the? Fuck man Nigga, try to set me up man.
Speaker 3:He got cut on the go. Hey, yo they be cut off on this door. Man, I'm like for real, I ain't going to hold you, bro.
Speaker 4:now that we did it like this, bro, I'm still an East Coast. Baby Draymond got to go.
Speaker 3:Okay, I always say that I'm an East Coast baby at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that be. People answer like they could do without the West. I don't think that that's what it is. But without no West Coast, you don't get no Yo listen, listen.
Speaker 4:I'm talking about as far as our generation. I ain't talking about the older generation.
Speaker 3:But I'm saying everything they did though that old school Ice Cube boy.
Speaker 1:Everything they did, from old to new. But if Dr J for you, that's for you. I just know how important that the West Coast music is.
Speaker 3:Shout out to everybody we mentioned man, we not?
Speaker 4:getting rid of nobody. For real, we not getting rid of nobody.
Speaker 3:This is a great discussion on our culture.
Speaker 4:I'm an East Coast baby bro, because in my personal rap list Hov and Wayne wasn't even an option to go. Those is my ghosts. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like Hov and Wayne is my two rap ghosts period. So they wasn't going nowhere. So Birdman couldn't go just off of that Right. So it was between West Coast and when we really broke down Diddy, like you broke down Big Mary and all them. I ain't getting rid of all that.
Speaker 2:I can't bro Listen.
Speaker 4:Mary alone. Listen. Mary alone every Saturday morning at 8 o'clock in the morning is cleaning and you gonna smell pine salt. And listen to Mary.
Speaker 1:And then people don't be understanding, bro, bro, like 112, carl Thomas.
Speaker 4:And then people don't be understanding, bro, bro, like facts, like what y'all know, that I was like yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:112, Carl Thomas, I think Donnell Jones as well, I think Tim as well, Like Mario Williams, All them little acts that he Day 26. Whoa Black Rob, Craig Mack, Flavin' Air Like Sean. Sean, one of the best lyricists in the world the Mace, the Lox, like how is you even going? And we can even take it. The new French Montana, his son, who else? Machine Gun Kelly, yup, yup, he was bad boy last train to Paris.
Speaker 2:Last train to Paris people gotta understand.
Speaker 1:Like bro, diddy probably got the best air and music period he probably got. Who else got a better air than him? Air like that person got talent, come here. Diddy got the best. Ain't nobody over him.
Speaker 3:On the East Coast.
Speaker 1:No, period, bro, Don't nobody got a better who Dr Dre? One of them boys. He is Bro Dr Dre, bro Even though we get rid of him.
Speaker 2:No, Diddy produced more stars than Dr.
Speaker 1:Dre Diddy listens like this. Dr Dre's probably like that. Who said that? Compare Diddy work with Dre work? Diddy is way over him.
Speaker 2:Who said that it's the books, what it's history I'm going to just, we probably going to have to come back to this bro.
Speaker 1:Bro, I don't know what you talking about.
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