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COACHING FOR BUCKETS FT. CEO DUKE | RTM PODCAST | SZN 2 EP 21
What happens when a community icon transforms the local music scene while empowering the youth? We bring you the inspiring journey of Duke, a figure whose decade-long influence resonates through Philadelphia's vibrant music community. Together, we navigate Duke's path and the neighborhood tales that shaped our own stories, all grounded in resilience and the desire to uplift others. This heartfelt discussion isn't just about music; it's a celebration of perseverance, mental health awareness, and the triumphant strides of artists like Chalky Gibbs, whose recent successes remind us of the power of a positive mindset even amidst life's challenges.
As we explore the fabric of Southwest Philly, personal anecdotes reveal the gritty reality of growing up in a neighborhood that has evolved over time. We share the impacts of street life, family influences, and early dreams fueled by a desire to rise above. The journey takes an introspective turn with stories from Glen Mills, where character was forged through discipline and respect, leading to unexpected life lessons. From street corners to the music industry's frontlines, these narratives underscore the importance of strategic planning and the relentless spirit driving our music journeys.
Join us as we unravel the complex dynamics of Philly's music scene, where loyalty runs deep and competition is fierce. We examine the evolution from local party promoter to premier artist collaborator, emphasizing mentorship and community empowerment as keys to success. Through the eyes of a tour manager and artist advocate, we navigate the challenges young talents face, stressing the need for guidance and ethical industry practices. This episode is a testament to the power of collaboration, the significance of staying true to one's values, and the transformative potential of aligning personal and professional goals for lasting impact.
We'll see you next time. Rilla the Moose Podcast. I'm your host, Rilla. I'm Ida World Cash, I'm White Boy D2A, and this is the Rilla the Moose Podcast. What's up, fellas man? Today we got a member in the building man Family in the building.
Speaker 2:Listen, man. I want White Boy to do the rundown. We gonna get this right man, we got member in the building man.
Speaker 3:Family in the building.
Speaker 2:Listen, man, I want white boy to do the rundown. We going to get this right man.
Speaker 3:We got family in the building today and it's important. It's important, it's important for me because it's family and like I really respect and honor like the work you do in the community and like the work you do with the artists, and you've been doing it for 10 years strong. So like I respect that as to respect that as well, because consistency is key, like that's what people got to understand in this game. That is a marathon. It ain't about who won the race. Yeah, it's about just continuing the marathon. Right, and that's one thing I could say about this guy that said next to me like he's been fully continuing the marathon and he's been able to put himself in a position to maximize on his full potential and what I've been seeing.
Speaker 2:I see him carry the ball for a long time and try to take it back home.
Speaker 3:You know I mean always bring it, bring me he all around the city. You can see him at any event. Facts.
Speaker 2:When I go out of town, I'm in, I'm in Atlanta. He at every event there. Yeah. Like it is like you can't miss Duke man, big, tall, yeah, I mean, he in the building, he in the building, something I picked up on is how to how to youth look up to you.
Speaker 4:Because that's, that's how I even heard of you.
Speaker 1:Like you haven't. Like, yeah, the boy Duke who be putting all the young in Southwest da-da-da, that's how. I even heard about you in a jail cell, right, feel me Like I'm in there with some Southwest dudes and they, big Duke, see your dude, I'm like who that? And then I come home, you everywhere, like I come home, then this stack of stuff Like you feel me.
Speaker 4:So it just was tough, but that was part of that era. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that was another era too.
Speaker 3:That was like we going to get into it.
Speaker 1:No, we ain't going to speed, we going to speed.
Speaker 3:That was my bad. That was my bad.
Speaker 1:That. So, we, we big on mental health up here, bro. So before we get into, you know, we just going to start off. Go around actually by how they feeling. You know what I'm saying. So we're going to start off with white boy how you feeling, bro.
Speaker 3:I feel great. Chalky gives just drop beyond bless. Now I mean he dropped, had to show on the same day a drop or on the same day as his daughter his daughter's birthday and so watching him flourish and and be the artist that he set out to be is amazing. You feel real good. I got Duke next to me. We execute in a plan really the most. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's get it. How about you Cole?
Speaker 2:Man, I'm ready to work.
Speaker 1:Say go, man, let's go everything, let's say go let's say, let's say go man let's go, you already know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like that yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Um, I ain't gonna hold you like you, feel me, I, I I've been having a little. You know, you know how you know how life get, but you feel me like five, just told me before like you just got to have a positive attitude about that, like about certain things. You know what I'm saying. You keep pushing, you keep going. You know what I'm saying You're going to make the tables turn eventually if you think positive, what we tell them every pod bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know I'm a girl when you win, mary Pied bro. Yeah, no, I'm growing. You went. Don't you lose, don't cry, the blues Shout out. And I want to shout out Gibbs as well for making me one of the two artists. The complete beyond bless.
Speaker 2:Get into it.
Speaker 1:You feel me of a day we he had the key gives and Friends Beyond Bless show. It was live performances was live Shout out to all the artists, my guy. Yeah, man, he, he had me perform, you know, saying six me, the most streamed song on the whole. John Six Me shout out to you. Yeah, they love that.
Speaker 3:John, they love, they love video on the way video on the way. Yeah, that's me video on the way, shout out kid giz.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, I feel great, man, how you dude man, I'm feeling good, I'm feeling blessed.
Speaker 4:there's a lot going on, man, so I'm just taking everything in and just you know know, rolling with the punches, man, but I'm feeling highly favored.
Speaker 3:I'm feeling blessed as you should. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2:As you should. It's a good time to be alive man.
Speaker 1:Yes it is, yes it is, it's a good time to be alive.
Speaker 4:Yes, it is, but definitely before we start off, definitely want to give a shout out to y'all for bringing me up here, and I mean we was long overdue, but, like I said, right now it's perfect timing I got a lot to talk about right now I mean. So once again, man, shout out to y'all keep doing the work that y'all doing, and I mean keep putting on really the most appreciate that, appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Appreciate that. So you know what we do.
Speaker 3:Let's get it white boy, all right so you know, here on the relative most, we do our due diligence up here y'all like and banners though that like duke already family. You know, I know the story, but the story be for the people. That. That's like I'm saying outside of this, at home, watching us and like that right. So we, we want to get down, we want to get the whole story.
Speaker 4:So, duke, where you from I'm from Southwest Southwest Philly, 61st and Elmwood.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay. So growing up in Southwest, right, and you know, southwest a hard place to come up out of, especially. I spent some of my teenage years and, like uh, elementary years in Southwest, that's middle school years. That's a hard place to grow up out of Now, like even then. No, I'm saying like it place to grow up out of Now, like even then.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying like it used to be middle class place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like people used to move up Southwest, that was the place to go. Yeah, that was the 70s though. No, I'm saying, though, like Not the 60s and 50s, southwest got treated.
Speaker 3:No the 70s, yeah, and 77th and 73rd and all that.
Speaker 1:Oh, the 70th, the 70th.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the 70th, but 60th and 66th and 68th and no, no, no, fuck, no.
Speaker 4:No, that was like South Philly high and spot and it was the worst.
Speaker 2:That's where everybody from South Philly that was like the up. That was like the up, uh upgrade right there, that little area right there, like you, left to go to Southwest, like yeah, like that was a step up, that's what we did, remember, guys?
Speaker 1:That's what we did no.
Speaker 4:Misha, I see Misha the homie every day. Yeah.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah, that's what my mom did. Like you feel me. We moved right to 66th and Woodland. Right in Yocum Street, where you was moving somewhere, where are we going somewhere I'm going to catherine and pepper same shit old time.
Speaker 4:You was low, but you wasn't low same shit, yeah.
Speaker 3:So like growing up in them times hard time. Like give me a, a few of your influences growing up, and when I say influences I mean like the people that be like right in your crib or like right outside your crib see, for me, my influences was my peoples.
Speaker 4:That was going through hard times so, like my dad, he was big, big time boy on the streets, right boy um and what's up?
Speaker 4:that's my boy seeing the stuff that he went through yeah that's what kind of inspired me to be who I am today my own, my. I had an uncle, todd shout out. Taj todd was a boy in southwest champaign, 745. He was, you know, I mean I was nine. You know I mean watching these things happen. You know what I mean. So, um, my experience and part of who I am today came from my big brothers that I be on the block with every day.
Speaker 4:Everybody went through the Glenn Mills. I was nine, sending my homies and Glenn Mills money $5. This one you only can get $5 a week up Glenn Mills. I'm nine doing this. So I used to be in my room when I was a kid and I used to be like yo, I'm going to be a lawyer because my dad was in jail, my homies was going through what we was going through. So that was like my dream. My, you know, I got the drive from my people. So, coming up in South, southwest, it was hard because everybody was bad. When I was coming up, everybody was bad. You had the fighters you had. It was dudes playing with guns back then, when I was young you get what I'm saying Dudes that I looked up to.
Speaker 2:So, coming up in Southwest, so what age your pop wasn't around though.
Speaker 4:So my pop went to jail from. I was born in 94. In 97, my dad went to jail for five years All right, okay, he did five years. Came home when I was in second grade. By the time I made it to third grade. He got locked right back up, yeah and didn't come home to our graduate. He literally came home the same week.
Speaker 3:I graduated from glenn mills because they say they'd be bad, like he missed. He missed everything, yeah. They always say papa miss everything, yeah.
Speaker 4:So, um yeah, that's, that's how you know what I mean. So that's how I came up. I came up being inspired by my dad and the people that was making them bad mistakes. They was getting a lot of money and, um, they was going to jail. Everybody was going to jail. So that was the drive for me to be like yo. I could still you feel me like yo, I could be who I am and not go through that, and that was like something that I always kept in my mind, like growing up every day, my mind being, you know, working two jobs, just you know, all the little hood stuff that you can go through. We done been through it.
Speaker 4:Fights the not list, you know what I mean. Just the regular day, and then I was down South Philly a lot too, you regular day and then I was down South Philly a lot too. Right, you know I got South Philly ties shout out to South Philly so I used to spend some time, some weekends, down there um kicking it with my people. So my growing up used to be Southwest South Philly.
Speaker 3:On the weekends, yeah okay, okay so so so you know, growing up and having pops as an influence on as an influence, you basically seeing that shit like right in your spotlight, you ain't even gotta go nowhere. You saying that shit, front row coming up like that and you just said like that's what you. You wanted to be a lawyer at first because you saying everybody go to jail, like what. Um, what was some of your musical influences that you hearing Like what was the soundtrack at this time when your pops doing what he doing, doing what he doing Like what?
Speaker 3:was the soundtrack at this time.
Speaker 4:Yo, I remember this right. I remember my dad. My dad bought me 10 pair of New Balances. I used to wear New Balances back in the day 5-7-4?. Yeah, I had every color you couldn't skip a color.
Speaker 2:I ain't have.
Speaker 4:And I was in Disney World. I came back from Disney World. They get locked up. You won't let me out. My dad got locked up. Man, that shit, my grandpa called me. I'm like where my dad at he like he in jail man, that Akon song used to have me crying. That Akon did that was a tough moment, like missing my dad, missing, like you know what I mean that good life, not needing for nothing.
Speaker 3:You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean.
Speaker 3:Because with pops going away, things ultimately change.
Speaker 4:Yeah, me and my mom work hard, but I always had a good support system. My mom, my grandma, my grandma been making a hundred100 a year since I was a kid, so we always had some type of money around.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:And my grandpa was a hustler. My dad he had back in the day in South Philly. This is when I was a kid. I used to see dollar houses. Them dollar houses was serious. Yeah, and that's how I knew when I be playing back time. I'm like I knew I was going to be that boy. I used to ask my grandpa what them dollar houses mean, that mean a house for a dollar. My grandpa used to have a key chain with all. He owned so many properties in South Philly yes, he did.
Speaker 1:Coming up. What's that? Dollar houses, what's that?
Speaker 4:So back in the day, you really can get a house for a dollar. A house for a dollar, and South Philly had a fucking bunch of them. You could just be riding around on every pool or every abandoned house. It used to say dollar house. Back then they was getting houses for a dollar. What was the?
Speaker 2:stipulations with them, john, you get the house for a dollar but you pay the taxes on it, or?
Speaker 4:something I didn't really know too much.
Speaker 3:I was a kid it and all that. You gotta get all that all before my time yeah, yeah them, jones was crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah you, you want it though no, for sure I remember that's the time right.
Speaker 3:So you know, you know having pops and you know him early on and you um seeing him move around a con. That was the soundtrack of the time. You know what I'm saying. Give me like when you know you coming off the step Now R-Duke coming off the step a little bit. You starting to put your foot in the streets and move around and proclaim your name.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, wait. Before you do that, make sure y'all share like. Subscribe comment. Repost tag share.
Speaker 1:If you don't Everything you can do, use a hater.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Because it's free.
Speaker 2:It's free 99, man, free 99. Get it, man, let's get it Jumping off the steps.
Speaker 4:That was one of the craziest parts for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I jumped off the steps, I stole my step pop gun.
Speaker 4:I ain't bang with him, you know what I mean. I took him to the army. That joint was in the basement, the block was going at it, right, you know what I mean? I called big bro Yo, I got something for you. I was the hero on the block. They like what, dude, where you get this joint from. We need that, though. No, this for y'all. Um, so that's literally how I jumped off the uh, the steps, like you know. I mean, just being that boy in the hood, I was one of the first muslims in the neighborhood, so we was, you know, very respected and, um, I was a known boy in the neighborhood, even at a kid so I used to sit on the step a lot.
Speaker 4:Okay, everybody ride by a beep a thousand beeps a day. You know what I mean. I was a known boy so that played me. Just seeing people when I'm on the step, everybody, just seeing the love that I was getting, that drew everybody closer.
Speaker 3:You and Greg G's grew up up the block from each other.
Speaker 4:Yeah that was big bro Greg G's. I used to sit on the step with him. He was fly. You know, they got me by some years.
Speaker 3:Right. So talk about that, talk about seeing them Right.
Speaker 4:Well, we go back to the Reed Dollars days. When I was nine I was working in a barbershop. I remember Reed had it jumping. Reed was really that boy in Southwestern I mean, they had the Reggie going on. That's when they had the Reggie going on. That's when they had the Reggie back then. Yeah, it was going down at the barbershop. You know what I mean. So just growing up seeing Reed be on the DVDs. Then you got Greg G's.
Speaker 3:He was a real spitter, but every day we up the street chilling with him. Hold on Around the corner, tommy Stars. What's the other one?
Speaker 4:What's the other one? What's the?
Speaker 3:other one that used to be with.
Speaker 4:Tommy stars used to be around the corner from you, keem, oh, he's boogie. He's boogie, yeah, keem, on Glenmore, that's what I'm saying. So I was really got some like, yeah, yeah, so what's really? Imagine me growing up. He was one of the biggest car ring balls. Imagine you growing up, you seeing every luxury. You got this boy up the street. He got every luxury car. You don't know where he getting it from. Facts he paying for my boots every every winter. He was my guy. I call you. I need some acg boots, right, my dad book every winter. I counted on him, like I had people that I counted on that's fire, you know, I mean that's why I love these dudes, so I still
Speaker 3:get these dudes. Yeah, shout out to King man Ace Boogie like Skinny King, yeah, skinny.
Speaker 4:King, them boys was like people that I could count on coming up. He had the biggest car theft. He was selling airplanes Nigga was selling yachts.
Speaker 3:He had one of the biggest car theft drones in the world. Bro, he's sending top line shit out, he's sending Off the hook. No, they no, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so boom. So like I hear you say you was in man.
Speaker 2:He's from all the way up.
Speaker 1:You was in Glen Mills so I wanted to know like did you play any sports growing up? Sports growing up at the time you talk about?
Speaker 4:So, bro, coming up I wasn't heavy on sports. I had all the right people around me but they couldn't control me. So coming up I was more heavy in religion than I was on sports. I used to take pride in knowing. I used to know 60 source. You know what I mean At a young age. So that's what I was really studying coming up. So when I got to that certain age of I ain't get to like really sports until I got to Glenn Mills, Right, and when I got to Glenn Mills I was too old to even go through the process of playing sports. Yeah, so it was like for sports. Glenn Mills helped me. Glenn Mills taught me that balance. You know what I mean, Because I went to Glenn Mills and we talk about being in the streets.
Speaker 4:I went to Glenn Mills for being thorough. You know what I mean. Not a nigga put me in a situation that I had nothing to do with a robbery. You know what I mean. I served two years for that. You know what I'm saying. So, Glenn Mills, that was like the turning point of my life to me, seeing that the court system was really wicked. Like imagine you think you going home and the bull come in the courtroom and like no, he pointed a gun to me. Like a gun, like I don't. I don't even play with guns.
Speaker 1:I think I was up. What year was you up there?
Speaker 4:I was up when it was 2011, 2011, 2013.
Speaker 1:yeah, I was up there with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was up there with them yo, I always used to be like yo, he, I was up there with him. That's crazy, but so the reason I asked you. What I asked you, though, is because I I wanted to a lot of people who in like, in like the field, you in like always, like felt it or like like manifested certain things like they knew they were of story, but like, as you was coming up and seeing Reed and all this and all that, did you feel it like that you was going to be different than most of your peers, or it just went as it went. I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 4:It's old heads who don't have nothing going on right now. They used to tell me back in the day, duke, you going to be, that it was old heads in the hood when I was 14, 15, it was dudes that used to let me drive these cars Like they'd come through the hood. I'm hopping in the driver's seat, taking off for a 10-minute spin. They used to be like yo, duke, you going to be. That they used to tell me. So I didn't know what people that used to be like. Yo, duke, you gonna be special.
Speaker 1:So you don't even know what you wanted to be when you was coming up for real.
Speaker 4:I wanted to be a lawyer. Okay, I wanted to be a lawyer. That was my dream to be a lawyer. But at nine, I started working at the barbershop. I was working at the barbershop at nine, making $50 a day. Then, when I turned 10, I started working at both of the barbershops. It's two barbershops across the street from each other. From 9 to 12, I worked at the barbershop, so the hustler spirit was already in me. Come on, willem. Yeah, right on Willem.
Speaker 2:Nabb Cutters Shout out my, but you was working for Lose, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, lose yeah so, and I used to.
Speaker 4:the hustle just was always in me. My mom used to drop me off at the zoo when I was 12. I used to sell Gatorades like 11. I was like 10, 11. I was selling Gatorades outside the zoo for $2, $3. That's when they had the big Gatorades, the Warders. So that's where your hustle comes from yeah, the hustle just always, just like it extends from my family. Yeah, yeah, the hustle, just always it extends from my family.
Speaker 2:But me, I seen a hustle in myself at a young age and nobody pushed me to do this. It was just you asking, grandpa about dollar houses man yeah, so like what I?
Speaker 3:always noticed about you and Young, like this, even before I even knew you, like even before we start corresponding and all that, like you always knew a lot of people and you always was like a, like a people person, you converse with a lot of people. Like you always knew how to handle and communicate with people, that's what I want you to do tell me about it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I always noticed that about you, like even before I knew you. Knew you and start corresponding with you and all that. Like like this, this kid got um a communication skill with him.
Speaker 2:That's like above average, right yeah what I wanted to ask you is tell me about the time you got out of glenn mills and everything where you started, when you first came home, how you was receiving everything that was.
Speaker 4:that was that's where life really kicked in. So in Glen Mills I had an old head his name Stu shout out to Stu. Stu used to work at Glen Mills and then he was a head head coach at a college out in Westchester. So, stu, I was in Glen Mills but I was too old to play sports because I went to school when I was out. So Stu was my old head. He used to like we used to talk a lot, stu, when I was leaving. Stu got the head coach job at McElhatter University and Stu came to me one day like yo, duke, would you wanna go to college?
Speaker 4:I'm like yeah, he like all right, well, I got a four-ride scholarship for you. I'm like what he talking about for basketball. So I'm like damn, four-ride scholarship for basketball. You couldn't play ball, no, I just had the average game. I was the boy that you put in. When you want to take that big man out, you know what I mean, I'm going in there, I'm sticking niggas 6'7", 6'2" you know, what I mean.
Speaker 4:I said 6'2 and I'm, you know, I mean like I'm. I said 6'2, 7 foot, and I'm 6'3, 6'4, 6'5, so I was just aggressive because I had that southwest in me, you know. I mean. So that's what they used to love about me. So that's all I meant on the court. But Stu gave me that opportunity and when he gave me that opportunity I took it. So I went up to college and I went up there for two years.
Speaker 2:What year is this? 2012. So 2013.
Speaker 4:2013,. I go to college, I'm playing basketball. Then my GPA, my first report card. In college, me and my dad make a bet Like yo, if I get a 3.0 gpa, you know I mean you. We was this exchange, so the exchange was 20 000. So if I get a gpa at three 3.0, you know I mean he was gonna give me the 20 000. I get my report card, I get a 2.9. Damn, my dad, my mom, still persuade my dad to give me the money. He give me the money. I went, took the money. Then I went and bought the crib that I grew up in. That right there was like the chain. That's where a new me became. Right Now I'm getting money, I'm selling this and that in the streets, and then I got a house. And this is all at 20 years old. You know what I mean. So it's like now I'm 20, I didn't took that, hey.
Speaker 1:Now I'm ripping, I'm running, you know what?
Speaker 4:I mean so. It was like at the end I wound up saying f college, because I'm like, damn, I'm in a real estate, like my dreams start coming true, like yo, I got my first property. You just couldn't tell me nothing, I'm slinging, this is going good, I'm on a college campus, I'm going to college, trapping, playing basketball and got real estate, you know. I mean so it was just like I'm that dude, I'm that boy, you know. I mean you couldn't really tell me nothing like everything going good for me. My people's rich, I don't got to ask them for nothing because I'm getting my own money. And I took pride in stuff like that, like being a man on my own, not saying, oh, your dad this person or your mom, this person, so any given moment you could fall down and you know that you got them as a crutch right and I ain't gonna lie to you, bro like my fault to cut you off, but were you ever scared of losing a scholarship?
Speaker 4:nah, when I got that, you gotta think about it. I'm not a street boy. I mean, I'm not a basketball playing guy, I'm from the trenches. So when I got that scholarship it was like mind blowing, but I ain't really value it as somebody that played high school basketball. Yeah, it was like yeah, it was just like.
Speaker 1:And I ain't gonna lie to you, like I was, I be telling them and like other guests we be having, like I was up the mills and all that right, and they could like, like that's where I learned how to be like respectful and like a man. You feel me Like all that, yeah, no, John.
Speaker 4:Shame, you're John also. Before I even seen my homies boy took me in the bathroom.
Speaker 1:Oh, here, take this. What's this for? No, you gotta let all that.
Speaker 4:Can't have one hair, nothing and if you refuse, you can't refuse it, because now it's up now it's up and they ain't playing either.
Speaker 1:They ain't playing. Ain't no restraint, no boop bop like they on that. And yeah, bro, what? Like as soon as they say something to you guys, stand with your hands to your side hey, glenn mills look in his face is a police.
Speaker 4:That's crazy, bro.
Speaker 1:Glenn mills could see philadelphia right now and if it was still looping no, and, and I wanted to, and look, I wanted to touch on that it even do two things to you for real when you go there. One make you a whole different person in a good way or two make you a whole different person in a bad way.
Speaker 1:That's the only two it can do, because it's ran so tight and strategic. It can really change the person you is, and I was gonna ask you how your life went after glenn mills, but you basically already answered this. So you, you, you, um, you, you know you, real estate basketball champ ah, at 20, right, so all right bet. When was the point where like not, it stopped. But when was the point where like not, it stopped, but when was the point where, like you, was doing it and it, like it, came to an end like that part of Duke life?
Speaker 4:I'm going to tap on that. But before we tap on that I'm going to go back into Glenn Mills. Glenn Mills showed me. Glenn Mills helped me with character. I didn't understand a lot of the stuff that glenn mills taught me until I actually got real grown. It was like yo, how did I know how to talk when I go in a club, like, how did I get on the mic and just start popping stuff? Glenn mills, I was on the radio live up glenn mills. I was a radio personality up glenn mills. But these are things that I'll be forgetting sometimes. Like yo, where did I get that trait from? Or how did I? Glenn mills taught me this, like you said it teach you manners. I always been a respectful boy, but glenn mills make you it kind of like sharpened you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:It kind of made you value certain people that you had going extra for you to help you. Then you had certain staff that was up there that it's like a cop in the hood. You got this cop who used to get bullied and now he got authority. He just taking it to the uh uh, fillmore, okay, fillmore.
Speaker 4:So I was in fillmore. Uh, um, now to go back in on your question, um, that happened years later. Like it took for my homies to go to jail you know, I mean the state federal cops to start coming in it. It took words, though I had to wake up and was like I'm done all right, that's how I mean.
Speaker 3:I was just speeding yeah, so look, so look, and that are you coming home. You 20 real estate, you done college, you home, now you trapping, all right, music.
Speaker 4:Music my dad, my dad. He had this boy from upstate, king Jaffe. King Jaffe. He said he used to wipe everybody down in the yard. So when my dad come home, they both come home. My dad signed him automatically.
Speaker 1:Boom.
Speaker 4:So we running around.
Speaker 1:We got all the funds.
Speaker 4:It's crazy because you can have all the money in the world. If you don't got the direction, you will not succeed. I don't care what nobody say. I don't watch people spend $200,000 on the artist and didn't make a dollar back.
Speaker 3:Because they didn't put the money in the right places and didn't but you spent $200,000.
Speaker 4:You ain't nothing back.
Speaker 2:I didn't spend a trident, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4:Like nothing back, like you know what I mean. So my dad had the artist and I just was Entry. My dad had the artist and I just was Retreat level. Yeah, I was on, I just was a go-getter. Everything I done I was a go-getter. So one day my dad artist this how I got the name Youngest in Charge my dad artist was like yo, duke, if it wasn't for you we wouldn't be moving. He like man, you getting every interview, you getting every performance.
Speaker 1:Like he said nigga you the youngest in charge.
Speaker 4:I looked at him I said, damn, the youngest in charge, that's the name. I'm rolling with that. So I went in the street, called the lawyer Like yo, get youngest in charge LLC. I went through that proper. You know people where it got it situated. But that's what put me in music right there. So that was the start. From there now I go back to the block in southwest. So I got 10 homies yeah, one of my homies is a rapper, he show. He proved his point to me where for 30 days straight he dropped the freestyle every day, okay, and then he bombed that uh core, uh panda freestyle and he had one at Kora. He said some stuff about Kora like being the hottest. He didn't even go at Kora, he just said he was hotter than Kora, but that Kora a lot of eyes and he was really in the streets really doing shit.
Speaker 4:So, he had that name. He had the ladies that loved him. He had the whole package. Rest in peace. Five man, that was my guy. 5 was like a solid young dude. That was my brother.
Speaker 3:At this time? Did you get the chain yet?
Speaker 4:Yes, oh all right. Ok.
Speaker 2:Damn. Oh oh, oh, we speed.
Speaker 3:Damn, we really speed, don't speed.
Speaker 4:Because let me talk my shit now, because I'm like Lil Boosie out here. You know what Lil Boosie say. Let me talk my shit now because I'm like Lil Boosie out here. You know what Lil Boosie say. He go to the motherfucking jeweler. When you went and did that, that was a little bit. Listen man, you turnt it up. Come on man. Come on man, listen. This stuff dang, we can really go down memory lane, man Shout out. My guy Dimitri right Shout out.
Speaker 3:Dim Meach Shout out to.
Speaker 4:Meach, because now we're going to go back right there. The ice. The ice will set it off right there. Right, I went from the 6'1 piece. I had the 61st Street piece. Some dudes up out and he broke in my car, stole that, me and Demetri come back and went viral on him. And this is what I say. And I felt boozy when Boozy said that dudes be spending a lot of money.
Speaker 4:I made Dimitri over millions of dollars to the point where it was unlimited access. You get what I'm saying. Like I could go to Dimitri, walk behind Dimitri, get this, I'm going, I'll be back my chain. Dimitri made that for me on a strength. You get what'm saying a sixty thousand dollar chain for twenty thousand, because I made this guy millions of dollars in these streets. I had everybody in southwest going to dimitri. You even got your first rolly from dimitri, your first chain, if you have, from southwest from 2014 to 2020. You went to dimitri. So the ice that's what said that. We, we all went to dimitri. We got some, some my homies got rollies. I got chains. Five drop a freestyle for 30 days. Straight from there, I meet dj boo. Boom, that's what that down Me and DJ Boo. Dj Boo is one of them boys who he a scout DJ.
Speaker 4:Boo, y'all got to get.
Speaker 2:DJ.
Speaker 4:Boo up here. Dj Boo was a scout. Dj Boo said yo, these the hottest young niggas in the city. You know what he do. Oh, they, my youngest DJ Boo shout out you, dj Boo, dj Boo. He's a nut, but he do a lot of good stuff for people and everybody. Don't give DJ Boo his credit. Dj Boo done a lot of good things for us we just wasn't business, our business mind wasn't all the way there to actually execute the things that he have done for us, right.
Speaker 3:Glad you asked, mature enough to understand that now in your life and to say it right, because every like is like when, when, when. Speak on boo name they say that man, you're nut right but he got some good ways and good things he has done for people and that he continuously do for people. So I I I like that you did that so, boo, put me on a jeezy play.
Speaker 4:Boo said yo, dude, you want to y'all moving around, come book Jeezy with me. Yeah, I booked Jeezy with him. That goes successful. The next play P Diddy. He like yo, you got 30 bucks for Diddy. Like what I said, Boo, if I put up this money it's not going to you. I need to know the owner of this motherfucking establishment. Like you, gotta walk me to the boss. You know what I mean, boo, what he do he call the boss up.
Speaker 4:I said I need to know the owner of this club, like I gotta be in the room. Yes, that's what separated me from promoters. Shout out to all the promoters that's doing their thing right now. But I remember these dudes when they was getting checks. He was waiting outside the chair Leaders on the bench waiting for the couple hundred I was in the office percentage. Yeah, you know what I mean. It was a very big difference, you know what I mean. So I came in on some ball stuff, shit, you know what I mean. Shout out DJ Boo. He helped us navigate through certain stuff. Shout out my guy Nye from Onyx. I got to give a lot of people these flowers Because when I came in and I tried to do my first party, everybody overlooked me. My man, lucky, and another dude. They tried to charge me $20,000 to have a birthday party and to have 100 bottles. I go to them and say, yo, I want to have a party here and I want 100 bottles. They tell me $20,000.
Speaker 2:They used to have their bag back then.
Speaker 4:They treated me Shout out, my guy Lucky because he came to Onyx that night of my first party and he grabbed me and he said anything you ever need get with me, like my bad about that. I was wrong for that. Yeah, you know what I mean. But I was already once that. Once I seen I bought the whole Southwest out. It was a wrap over. It was a wrap. So yeah, I don't even need y'all. You know what I mean. It is the venue.
Speaker 4:Yes, it's over the people we got the people, we got them.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. So, um dang, it's so much yo and I. This is my first time really why I wanted to come up here because when you're a workhorse, you don't be worrying about getting a credit. When you sometimes, when you stuck in that field and you work and you grind it, you don't really care about the credit. What's the next play in philadelphia? We have to make sure we give people the credit.
Speaker 4:People is out here acting like they done this and they don't got a team, and whole time they have a list of people that's behind them. That's making this shit move me. I am an example. I don't have a team right, I never and the last, I'm just now building a team, literally this year, because I understand how important a team is and how important if you want to execute and you want to elevate. I can't be the nigga that's doing 30 things at once what I used to be doing. Now, if I got a team, they do that, they do that. Now I'm in the field making more plays, better plays. I could extend more. You get what I'm saying. So we have to put our pride to pride to the. However, whatever y'all want to call it, we got to give people these flowers. We got to give people the credit, not just behind doors like go on the internet sometimes and say shout out such and such for doing whatever they you know.
Speaker 4:I mean, I know certain people. We want to keep their plugs on the low, but y'all got to make people feel uh, special and make them feel like their work is very appreciated, because a lot of people wouldn't be moving without their team, bro, I feel that. So part of me coming up here, because I feel like, like y'all said, y'all know Big Duke from the music, the party promoting, but they don't know Big Duke from the marketing. They don't know Big Duke clothes $100,000 deal. Chill, we're going to get to that.
Speaker 4:Okay, you know what I mean. All right, okay, all that, all right.
Speaker 3:Because I can tell you I can tell you it's getting there, we're getting there, all right, so look, so look, boom, you got the shit rolling. You bringing them out Now you in the parties, boom Now. Now you got to get to these Duke parties this is the hottest shit in the street.
Speaker 2:This is the perfect time for me to say what I gotta say, though. Go ahead, Walk in the studio. I'm like I know who that is Duke in there. I'm like, what is Duke doing? He in there making a commercial for the radio.
Speaker 1:He like run that joint back.
Speaker 2:I'm like what? Let me hear that. Wow, like is your right, and I'm like, listen man. That was the transition that I seen him going around, running around with artists and then doing that right there, right, and I'm not sure where you was at, right there with the parties, but I know your marketing was on another level.
Speaker 4:I had the gels going crazy. I was putting money in that commercial because I knew my homies was going to hear it. And then they start promoting in the gel and then I know dudes in the gel they going to call home and call their girlfriend, their baby mom, you better not be going to that nigga party.
Speaker 4:They my promoters. So let me go ahead and take this 1500, two bands put it up and I'm gonna have Everybody in the jail calling they, girlfriend, they, you better not be going to that Party. And then what happened? They end up going to the party. Because why did he call home and say you better not be going to that nigga duke party, something special there. So when you tell your girl that they was pulling up so that was part of my marketing scheme People wasn't really taking that.
Speaker 2:Bro you hear this People wasn't really. This is vicious. This is party promoted on another level man. A-boo, A-Boo. I don't know what y'all be doing, but this one.
Speaker 4:Another level man shout out, my guy, nah nickels. He showed me this, all this game right here. Nah nickels showed me the radio. He made me understand the radio. He made me understand instagram ads like this boy was killing them on the radio and instagram ads years ago.
Speaker 4:But but, like, this is where I got that game. This is how I knew how to get the Jersey crowd. We was having Jersey pull up Like. I learned that stuff from Nye running the club really like, and he was open arms to me giving me the game and the knowledge man. So shout out, nye, a lot of this interview. I'm going to be giving a lot of people these flowers because I've never done an interview before to actually talk about the different things. It's going to be a long interview and we're going to literally and I'm going to give a lot of people these flowers because it's the time when you're out and you're talking about what's going on. It's the time now to give them people these flowers.
Speaker 3:So look, you got party promoting. Now you got that shit. It's at, it's all time high. You throwing some of the best parties in the city, some of the best parties in the tri-state, boom, alright. Now you at that point, now at this point this is what I'm saying, you know what I mean. You start getting into the the more, uh, premier artists now you're gonna go. Now I'm saying you more around young ka now stack of starves being uh brought to the world, and now you're a part of that as well. Right, you're moving around with them.
Speaker 4:So give me that, give me that part of your life so that was like the transition right there um, that was 2020 from going from like local, more local from from going from like more local to like more of moving around.
Speaker 3:But what made me do that?
Speaker 4:that's what I'm gonna get into, what made me actually do that and all right there, that 2020 was the year of the transition. That was the year when I I said I woke up and was like I'm done.
Speaker 4:I had a birthday party. The cops hit my birthday party, got my homies. Afterwards I went home. I woke up the next day and found that out and woke up and was like yo, I'm done, it's over, it's getting too real. Now they right here, you telling me they at my birthday parties. Now they got everybody riding away from my birthday party.
Speaker 2:I think I remember around that time.
Speaker 1:So you ain't have to get locked up and do a bunch of time to say you done.
Speaker 4:That's why I'm blessed.
Speaker 1:Because I seen.
Speaker 4:Yo, it was so Listen.
Speaker 3:I just move in a house.
Speaker 4:Listen, I just move in a house. Listen, I just moved in a house. We just get my house built from the ground up. It's rocks. For three months straight I slept with my door unlocked, thinking the Lord was coming. I didn't do nothing, but I know conspiracy. You could be a dude that don't do nothing and still get conspiracy. You get what I'm saying. So it wasn't that I done anything because I stayed in my lane. That's why I'm blessed. But just knowing that, dang you that guy. But you hanging around, these guys, yeah, but I am who I am and they who they are, and we can't change that. But these are the people that they made me who I am today. They made me not want to go that way. They made me feel like yo Duke, no, you can go that way and you still thorough out here and it's crazy because playing back a little bit.
Speaker 4:I was the underdog coming up. When I graduated Glen Mills I became a big, big dog. That was a whole nother transition. You got little Duke that was taking packs from people. Now I'm a big homie to them yeah so that, right, there was just a lot for people to take in. Like that's my young boy, he big dog now. People couldn't even take that. Like that was, that's my young boy and he a big now. People couldn't even take that. Like that was, that's my young boy.
Speaker 4:He a big dog. Now, right, that was hard. That was hard for people to take. So one thing 50 cent to nah. This is really what made me go. Which way I go? 50 cent to nah. He said yo, nah, when you hustling, not even just in the streets, when you are an entrepreneur, you hit a roof, you hit a ceiling. You can't fall in love with this stuff. Hit your ceiling, get paid and go to the next. And that was something.
Speaker 4:When the pandemic came, my dad called me and said Duke, hold your money. There's an identity crisis out here. People don't know who is who. People don't know what's going to happen with the money. He said hold your money. In two years it'll be cleared up. All the smoke and mirrors will be cleared up. Everybody going to go back broke again, everybody that was punk like my dad called this Yo, dude, slow down. He went into hibernation. We in a hibernation. People look at us like damn, we went broke. No, we just understood that it was a separation here. So why go ahead and flex? Yeah, why? All the young boys that used to look up to me? They got this pandemic money. Now they trying to have a bottle war with me. Duke, sit down. What do I look like? I just went five, six years stepping on these necks right and then a pandemic come in. All these people start getting money and start poking their chests out. Oh duke, slow down, go sit down go, fall back.
Speaker 2:So did you see that? You've seen the trick, you've seen the smoking mirrors?
Speaker 4:oh, I've seen it, but I had. It took my dad my dad, you look, pay attention because I was in the circus too. I was tripping out whatever I. I was going crazy, right. But I had to understand. When my dad called me, like you, don't fall back, you know what I mean. So the pandemic I stopped party promoting, I said. That made me wake up and say wait, wait, when the pandemic was over no, the pandemic started and I stopped party promoting it started at 20, like around 2020 when it was over, though, like 2022, 2022 right so the 2022.
Speaker 4:Right so the pandemic. Two years of flex yes. The pandemic made me understand. Right. As party promoters, I got all my money a lot of money, from whatever I've done, right, but as a party promoter, that was one of my top hustles. The clubs closed. What do you have to do, right? When the clubs closed, it left every promoter, club owner at a, because it came out of nowhere I was about to fly to miami.
Speaker 4:And then the pandemic came out of nowhere, like what the world closed down. You good, I'm saying so. It was like that, right there it hit me opening up his club yo, it hit me.
Speaker 2:This is the clubs now yes.
Speaker 4:So that, right there, made me think like all right now, duke, you got to really use your intelligence, you got to use your hustle. This is where the hustle coming to play at. So that's when I start wholesaling houses. I'm a vicious middleman, like I could make the same money as the person that's selling a product, middlemanning a product and not putting up nothing. So like that was the things that I learned during the pandemic. I learned how to wholesale houses. Boom, this a good homie of mine.
Speaker 4:Before we go there, shout out Trap Street Kayan and Trap Street Cab, free Cab. They was the first two dudes in Philadelphia that one of my mans that I was cool with Marley Straws, marley Straws. I told Marley Straws yo, I want to do a party. Marley Straws called Trap Street and get me on the phone with Kion and Cav. We pull up on Broad Street, meet each other. They like yo, we fuck with you, man, y'all some Southwest niggas. Boom, let's link up. They asked me for a little check. They promote my party for me.
Speaker 4:That's when we got tight. So right there, trap Street Kion, trap Street Kev. They was one of the first dudes that believe in me. It was Southwest dudes that knew we had tons of money, but they didn't even back our play on the party shit. You feel me? So before I got there, I wanted to go there, and then I want to go here. When we talk about Philly music scene, I want y'all motherfuckers to put some respect on my name, cause now I'ma explain to y'all exactly what I mean when I say this. Right, when we speak on a Zy Susis's right.
Speaker 4:Rest in peace. Fat G's. He found Zy Sosa. I was Fat G's big bro. Fat G's called me, said Duke, come to this show. I want you to check my artists. I got to the show. It was Zy Sosa. I seen a star when Zy Sosa performed his first song. I'm like what the hell this boy, fat G's got like this young boy out of here he was skipping across the stage. He was dancing, he got his little, his, his nice little curly fro he, he young, he he lit.
Speaker 3:Robber.
Speaker 4:I'm like dang, I'm like yo. So Fat G's, what he did was, instead of he know that I'm putting the money into a lot of different artists out here he tell me Duke, meet my artists, yeah. So that was key word right there. When he said my artists, he was saying don't take them. Yeah, meet my artists Like you't take him. Yeah, meet my artist like you. My peoples, that's my artist. You know what I mean. So I said, okay, I couldn't do nothing because I'm like, all right, that's his artist. I can't cry. I'm not one of them. Boys, I stand on business. Three months later, me and kyan. I used to be up trap street, sometimes chilling with kyan zai sosa. I'm on instagram. I see you, john zai sosa. I need a manager, I need a team. Yo, what's your number? Where you at? Come on, you know me, yan, go get the, go get, go get right. Y'all go in that closet. Y'all go get a, a black big bag of Montclair Gucci Louis. We pull up Yo, come on.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I am a trendsetter, if anybody in Philly, these dudes that y'all be thinking, no music and no, they look up to dudes like me. You get what I'm saying. And a lot of people didn't see the star in ZySusa, Right, I had to make people see the star in Zy Sousa, right, I had to make people see the star in him yeah.
Speaker 4:When I throw him on Instagram, mont from New Lane. Yo, I got the back, bring him here Because Zy Sousa's nephew was with him. Now it'll become a big war. We got my Teefie Teefie going to Graham. Yo, somebody call Sosa, tell him I got a bean for him. So I'm like, OK, but Teefee, everybody, these are my guys. I said, ok, everybody, it's getting real. Now we got Fat Reese. They threw something up, like yo, we got the Heating up, heating up.
Speaker 4:Heating up. Zy Sosa, come on with us. They don't believe in Zy Sosa, but they see the hype. Niggas be with whatever the hype is. They cannot even feel it, but they see the hype around it, so they just with it. So Boom called me. He said damn, dude, you see the star in Zy Sosa. I said nigga, that's a star Hang around, right, he said all I said nigga, that's a star Hang around. He said all right, three months later that was his son. He loved that little nigga. He's like yo, you was right Within them same three months. I get a call, yo. I forgot who. I got the call from One of them. I don't even care who it is, what it is. One of them called me Yo, zy Sosa say he ain't signing with nobody that's not from North Philly. Huh, okay, I'm going to keep balling, I'm going to keep playing. Now they signed. Wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 2:You not going to do that. You're not gonna speedball like that yo I got it.
Speaker 1:That's exactly why philly people can never get at a certain level, bro. And it's funny, bro, because I was, uh, in a predicament where I used to have a job, right smack dead. Where is our social from young boy? Love that like bro, he loves 16 for Sisu at his peak they was out there like that shit was fucking what's the block in Hollywood, everybody be on Hollywood Boulevard, ocean Drive, in the middle of Sisu.
Speaker 1:Be more, bro, everybody be on hollywood boulevard, bro, they used to be out there ocean drive, in the middle of sisu b more bro, like at his peak, like I used to be, like yo. These young boys and they definitely do be on that like the north philly or north philly versus everybody take time like like, that's what take time especially around that time where it was like fat G's Zy Sosa Lil.
Speaker 4:Dog Rob Markman.
Speaker 1:Lil.
Speaker 3:Dog Priceless he not from.
Speaker 1:North but.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he was with them though, yeah Like yeah, it was like a bunch of young boys.
Speaker 4:They was on some.
Speaker 1:North Priceless On some North Philly or nothing type of time he was.
Speaker 4:But so that was the car that I got. I was salty, hold up, hold up. So you just moved on, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, my bad y'all, I'm speedballing. Fuck that. Before we get to Ty Sosa, let's go to Rico Havoc we're going to start there.
Speaker 4:We're going to start all the way back there. Shout out to the twins right, this is how much, bro, my boy listen, we're gonna go back there. This is where music really get interesting. Right, I'm a lit 20 year old in south philly. Everybody I mean in southwest everybody think I'm older than what I am. We got money, but we don't understand the business Twins. They're from Rico Havoc Block. I got five, we running, we running. We got Southwest on Smash, but they got Southwest on Smash too, but we just running. It was just a little difference in it. Right, they calling me for weeks Yo Duke, we need you, you, we need you. These is my people. Rico abic been my little brother since elmwood skating ring my young shout out when he went to virginia was making beats like this.
Speaker 4:Shit is on facebook, him writing me big bro, I produce now and this is before all this, right, right, they calling me yo duke, we need you. We need you. I don't know how to take it in. I don't know how to handle it. Yeah, I'm like yo. I can't manage two artists at once. When I got into the field I didn't think that you could manage two artists at once. Yeah, so I don't manage rico havoc, that's what I do.
Speaker 4:Mont brown was somebody that I was inspired by. On the community givebacks yeah, philanthropy. We went to the Southwest Kickback Festival. Shout out to Mont Mont Brown, let us perform there, just knowing what we was doing. Right, and I was inspired by Mont right. So it's like we, like a month in Rico and them got Southwest on fire. Now because he got the, he got the hits with the music, he got the, he got the song. So we pulling up on Popeye's on 52nd and Woodland. You got a thousand people out there at a video shoot. This is no shooting, no, nothing. This is Southwest United. You feel me All love. I say dang. Mont Brown was someone who always wanted his dream was music. Yep.
Speaker 3:That's what I go do Just ask, and not shit and all that.
Speaker 4:I call Mont Brown, I say yo, mont, come outside Mont. How been my will. I take Mont to the trap. Rico and them had this trap crib on their block. I take Mont to the trap, rico and them had this trap crib on their block. I take Mont to the trap crib. Yo, Rico meet Mont Brown. Mont Brown meet Rico, he with y'all, just like that. I don't know the business, I don't know about the time and day now. They wouldn't have fell because I would have known business, I'd have had a percentage of that, I'd have been able to watch that, I'd have got to find this feed.
Speaker 3:It's so much that I did not know you could have been involved, then if you knew, I'm just being thorough.
Speaker 4:Mont Brown is somebody that I respect. Yo go ahead, go make the play, what Mont Brown and them go do. They made the play. Rico got a deal Atlantic.
Speaker 3:Records Nick records.
Speaker 4:You get what I'm saying. I say that People don't know about that. I don't run around talking about I made this, I don't got time to do that, but that's stuff that people, when we talk about music in Philadelphia with this new generation, my name need to be brought up and one thing I'm going to say is I know people only respect boards. Points on a board. I'm just now getting my first bucket, so I get that, but niggas ain't fucking with me.
Speaker 2:So look though all the failures and all the stuff you went through, like some of those moves right now, like what you just said with Rico and Mount Brown, you know how to go about that right now. I'm hot right now.
Speaker 4:Come on, oh, I'm about to show them. Matter of fact, I'm going to show them right now. On, oh, I'm about to show them. Matter of fact, I'm gonna show them right now. I'm about to run that same playback in times. Right now, I'm about to show them with the business acumen though I'm a hundred percent way you get what I'm saying. Like we ain't even gonna go, like what we could have done.
Speaker 4:I'm about to show them right now yes, I know the business, I know the business and I'm getting better. Shout out to my guy, kenny Blake, that's my teammate right there. We doing some good business right now Shout out Kenny Blake. Kenny.
Speaker 2:Blake, kenny Blake, everyone everywhere. Yeah, kenny Blake, shout out. Kenny Blake, that's my big bro, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I grew up Kenny up to as an entrepreneur. He had a barbershop in my hood for 20 years. You get what I'm saying. Now. We doing business and we doing right business and we standing on business. If y'all can ask these artists, they eating, they deals is good.
Speaker 3:We can show the paperwork. I ain't gonna speak cause we gonna get to that, but listen, boom, so look.
Speaker 4:I gotta talk my shit man these niggas be watered down. Y'all be giving the wrong niggas.
Speaker 3:Hold on, I'm about to roll something else out. Alright, so look. All that we got all that Rico Havoc, rico Havoc, young KA.
Speaker 1:So now we gonna get the Young K Z Young.
Speaker 3:K-A no.
Speaker 4:So now we're going to get the young K Hold on Zai Sosa. So we went Rico Rico, zai Sosa, zai Sosa. Now we go. Young K, now we go young K.
Speaker 4:Yeah, come on, I tell y'all I was going through hard. So I took a loss, a major loss, and this is why I say I'm blessed, because God will really show you you can have it all and really be. I had a 10-year run Like never looked down at all for 10 years straight. I hit a hard brick wall one day and lose it all Right, and lose it all. And the person that I am yeah, I got a dad, I got a mom, I got a grandma. None of them knew that I took that loss Right, grandma. None of them knew that I took that loss right.
Speaker 4:I hustled up for nine months straight to get back to where I needed to be. I wasn't around. I came outside every day I wasn't around, people fussing and you know when dudes broke, they all the negative energy in the world when you broke, you so angry, right, I took that because the man that I am am, I don't like people to feel like I need them. So, with me being, with that being said, I work right. Boom, this is my man. He called me one day duke.
Speaker 4:I need you I said all right, you, my guy, k this shit, fire what what we on. He pull up on me. I tell him. I said, hey, boom, I'm going through hard financial times right now, but I'm going to get right back, like I'm going to get back, but understand that I have a mission, young is in charge. I got to score a bucket with Young is in charge. I can help you because you, my guy, and I want you to win.
Speaker 4:But I got to get back to we ain't going to be here, this ain't a forever thing. We get into business. I say yo now you know I'm coming off a promotion, so now we running around, I'm a hustler. K was the only artist in the pandemic that got booked In the pandemic. He was the first artist I seen we got a booking out Connecticut. Yeah, during the pandemic somebody rented a big house and just took the whole backyard and threw a concert.
Speaker 3:Hell.
Speaker 4:So we working, we running around, we working, and I did a lot of stuff for Stack of Starves. If people don't know, you know what I mean. I was a K-tour manager. Yeah, I was a good marketer, yeah.
Speaker 3:Great marketer.
Speaker 4:And I was a great asset to the team. I helped people, I empowered people, I gave people knowledge of different things, as bookings, as a lot of different stuff that I didn't know in the past, that I know, that people didn't know. I gave them game on.
Speaker 3:You did well over there, bro. You get what I'm saying. You did well over there.
Speaker 4:Things didn't go right over there. It wasn't a good fit for me. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So look, getting into that. I'm going to let you get into that. Don't cut him off.
Speaker 2:I know, I know why wasn't a good fit. No, go ahead. Why wasn't a good fit? He going to get into it, my bad.
Speaker 3:Look when you was White boy, be saving niggas.
Speaker 4:No, no, look, look no, you going to get into it. He be doing that on the episodes all the time. You going to get into it. You going to get into. Look before you wherever you're about to go.
Speaker 3:Look all right. When you was over there, right, yes, and you like coming off of Rico Havoc and coming off of Zy Sosa, like was you feeling? Like, all right, this might be the one that could catapult my career at the time Hell yeah.
Speaker 4:Because, he's a big artist, hell yeah.
Speaker 3:And like when they popped off, it was kind of it was big hell. Yeah, they popped off before I got here, bro hell yeah label.
Speaker 4:I felt like, um, definitely, when I got with them I understood the value that I bought right I'm the streets, okay, I'm the one ripping around, I'm the one with the connections to these clubs, because I just was doing all this. So it's nothing to call a DJ booze to the reserves the.
Speaker 3:Baltimore. Yeah, it's not rappers, these things.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying, and that was big matter of fact shout out to Mont from New Lane. I learned. Mont took me on tour with PnB Rock and them. When PnB Rock was at its peak I seen little baby getting three thousand a show from PNB Rock. So like I watched people grow and I grew alone as the time was going. So I learned a lot. When we was on tour I learned a lot. I seen where people was messing up at I'm like, oh no, I'm more hungry. I seen a lot of stuff so I learned you get what I'm saying. So I understood how to work on the road. I seen it. So now we get the stack of stars. This is real motion. Like we got an artist like K, this nigga, he got New York in the headlock.
Speaker 3:Where it's hard to break at when it's hard to break at.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Like he got this joint going crazy.
Speaker 3:Crazy.
Speaker 4:So we going tour with ji, shout out to jay out of prince. We was moving around. Um, like I said, why you feel like you wasn't a fit, it just wasn't for me and what I, what I stand for and what I'll be on. You get what I'm saying and, as a man in business, I run my own show and I take pride in treating people to a certain standard, not saying that a way that a person could have, but what I stand on, I stand on.
Speaker 4:Everybody don't got to move how I move, and that's one thing my dad taught me too. Just because he a sucker, don't mean that you got to be a sucker back. Just be who you are, no matter if this person don't return that same way to you. Just stay who you are, you're going to still be blessed.
Speaker 3:Yeah facts.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, it just wasn't a good fit for me.
Speaker 2:So wait, you've been pushing these artists, You've been spending money, You've been trying to get an artist out there lead a hood locally. You out there now and you're saying it's not fit for you, that's crazy. No what.
Speaker 3:I was saying was Stack or Star, wasn't a fit for me, all right, so like the actual company, all right. That's good because, look, because, like, right at the or right, while you in the midst of that, you pivoting in the midst of that to humble. That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm like. Yes.
Speaker 4:But listen, you know how I meet humble. I meet humble because putting people in position. Dj Shai, I took him on tour with us. That's my man, dj Shai. I took him on tour with us. That's what I'm saying, like I yo this shit real man. Because when I be thinking about what I did like security companies, I helped dudes, I, I helped dude, I helped. Like shout out to everybody that I helped bro, but y'all niggas better start really showing some love back.
Speaker 4:Nigga ain't buy me no lunch, a pair of sneakers, something Like God damn, I didn't help niggas really feed their families and I ain't just talking to DJ Shy, because that's my brother overall, you know what I mean. Like y'all got to start like come on, man, I don't be like God damn, but to go in on what you were saying, right Damn, I just lost my train of thought, humble.
Speaker 2:Humble yeah.
Speaker 4:I play the gram a lot. Humble writing on the shot picture. Yo, I want to buy pictures. I want to buy backstage passes to the concert. You talking about K-Jone, so I'm like I jump right on that ho Bing. But what you got, what's your budget, what you trying to do with that? He like, oh, all right, yeah, I got this, give me $1,500. He like, all right, bet he give me $1,500. For three all-access passes, I get JI to throw his humble merch on in philly. He go crazy about that. He called me the next show. Another 1500. He called me the next show. I said, all right, I'm gonna slow down on you, I ain't gonna keep.
Speaker 4:Just give me a little 750 on this one once I got the 5000, I said all right, humble is who he say he is he's willing to invest his money.
Speaker 4:I'm like this young boy different and I'm already watching him on the news. He was on the CBS3 shit. I'm like, yeah, this boy different. I stopped working with Stacker Star. I get a call one day from random number. Yo bro, this is A from Humble. Hey, big bro, how you feel about working with us, what you mean working with y'all? How you feel about coming, like being on the humble team doing some marketing, like I seen what you did for k, like come, you know. I mean like I got some space for you. I said, oh my god, look at god every time something happens. You know what I mean. And I closed, closed that door. But that was God. Oh, let me pivot.
Speaker 3:And it's crazy because you did wonderful good work over there and that still opened the door for that.
Speaker 4:Yes, what humble. Humble aligned to what I was doing, the positivity, all what I was doing for the neighborhood, his movement and his word and what he preached. It aligned to what I had going on before. Humble, I call a paradox. I said yo d I'm about to take you on a 15 city school tour like let's tear this joint up. D can't really see the vision all the way. Humble call me. Now I call a deke, but humble call me, yeah you good, I'm saying right, I called Deke, as that's my Muslim brother, and I ain't feel no type of way.
Speaker 3:Let's get it Because.
Speaker 4:I just understood that it might have not been in the budget at the moment Right, right but.
Speaker 4:Humble called me. That was the difference. Perfect, you good what I'm saying. So when Humble called me, I'm his guy, so we get together and take right off. Boom, he listened to everything I say. Listen, shit really takes. I've never seen a clothing brand make hundred thousand dollar days, like hundred thousand dollars. This is this, ain't no big meat strap shit. This is some legal shit. Hundred thousand dollar days and I have to watch over his back, bro you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I had to run down on you with my son to get one of them fucking goodies.
Speaker 4:He wanted the picture and all he couldn't believe. I knew you Yo. So it's like he couldn't believe it, bro.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, that shit was crazy, bro. Bro, I ain't never seen nothing like that shit in my life bro.
Speaker 4:So shout out to humble for the opportunity and for understanding that he wasn't big enough to have somebody else on the team. He understood that he was big, but he like, oh, big duke, this boy, he big too we could come. And he understood that his action shoot it. You feel me. So I, I appreciate everything, how it happened. I appreciate the run with stack of star, because I learned what and what to not do and what you know I mean. And then after that relationship went where it went, you know, I mean, it's no bad feelings. Yeah, the next week, what happened? Humble, call me now I'm shoot, right, you get what I'm saying. Every time they thought I lost it or they thought I lost the momentum, yeah, god swung me something that was better. Take this, take this. And right now, when we fast forward up to date, right now, it's like me standing on good business, me being a good dude. This is why I got my artist that I got. Shout out to Brill Brill. I was doing bookings for Brill Brill.
Speaker 3:Jabril Evans Okay.
Speaker 4:Brill called me. He said, oh, these young boys right here, they next up. Yeah, I said, all right, bet, this is a year, and two years ago he told me Miz and AJ was next already. Right, he been told me this before. They had the music and all this Yo Unc D-Next up. What I do, just being a big brother, being a leader when we on tour, I'm taking them, I got y'all, everything is took. Just being a big brother, not knowing that one day they going to have a hit.
Speaker 4:Giving them the experience you know what I mean Giving them the experience when they flip back around. That's what they call big bro, I'm ready. It's God you get what I'm saying when you stand doing business. This is what my man said. How do you? They keep asking me yo, how you keep finding all these artists being thorough like young boys. So sometimes in Philly young boys get brainwashed and they don't understand your value. You get what I'm saying sometimes. That happens sometimes, and and they don't understand your value.
Speaker 4:You get what I'm saying. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes, yeah, and they look at the glitter and the delight and they look at that and then they come back to me and be damn near crying. I'll be like it's too late. Hard work, you didn't understand the difference. Hard work, yeah. You let the lights and the flash and the cameras Blind you, blind you to what was really going on.
Speaker 1:the cameras blind, you blind you to what was really going on. Yeah, speaking on finding artists is real quick because I know um when they come to southwest. Like you, are you a big, you're a big feast, like right you know, I'm saying so, I wanted you to um elaborate like did you and bankroll gambino have a relationship?
Speaker 4:Little brother. That's my little brother.
Speaker 2:I was about to say.
Speaker 4:That's my pride, got in the way of that. Shout out to Kenny Blake right, me and Kenny Blake is working right now. Right, but me and Kenny Blake was supposed to work for so many years, right. He always invited me Eat, mo, when I left Stack or Star, who called me, you, my young boy, yeah come over here, late Poppin'.
Speaker 1:Come over here.
Speaker 4:You know what I tell him? Kenny, I ain't going to lie, I'm drink right now.
Speaker 3:They doing their thing over there. I don't want it.
Speaker 4:Like, I'll let y'all. And this is a situation that's Poppin' Like Late Poppin' he offered me a position the show, like I will.
Speaker 4:I'm like yo, I'm not even in that space right now like I'm gonna. Just, I mean I'm gonna take off a little bit and I'm telling him, like, bro, music the way that I want to live my life Islamically. Maybe music is not the way for me. That's why things are not going how it's going.
Speaker 4:He's like nah, dude, you tripping, nigga, you built for this shit. Like me and Kenny Blake talk. We used to talk before we doing business. We used to talk once a week. No, dude, you tripping, you built for this. Dude. Like, dang with you, for real, dude, these bulls can't really like work, like when you get your opportunity, duke, like he just used to. He beat that in me, dude, they I always knew they can't with me, but he beat it in me like no, you built for this. Don't, dude, don't don't. Ah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So he tried to give me opportunities at the opportunities and I'm like nah, I'm cool, you get what I'm saying, and then the opportunity presents itself. You know, I mean, whereas though it makes sense, it makes sense, these are our artists, yeah, but to speak on the bankroll gambino, that was my little brother, since he was a kid, before he rap any of that right and bankroll. If y'all look at his video, he got my the youngest in charge chain on that's, you know. I mean he was rapping even when he so he called me one day he said dude, I want yeah, I'm youngest in charge, but I want you to link up with kenny blake. I was so burnt out with old niggas. Yeah, I hate old niggas, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I said you know what I told him? I told him, I said yo always blocking.
Speaker 4:I ain't fucking with old heads. I told him nigga, I gotta do this on like my guy, five dead. Nigga, I gotta score a bucket like I get with Kenny Blake. I'm not fucking with old heads, like I don't. I just they drained like I told him that and I said bankroll, don't you, my little brother, before rap, just come to me when you make that decision. Even if you choose to go with kenny blake, just be a man about it. Let me know what you choose to do and don't let me see it on no instagram. You know what I mean. And he called me like two weeks later, was like yo, big bro, like I want you to always be a part of this, but kenny blake is a better position for me right now. And I said okay, cool, all right. And he went with kenny blake. You get what I'm saying, but it's just so funny how it's like a full circle. You know what I mean. I've been-.
Speaker 2:So what made you say you wasn't dealing with old niggas? Was it you being stubborn?
Speaker 1:Was it like something?
Speaker 2:you was trying to prove to like maybe, the older guys that you came up under.
Speaker 4:I had a chip on my shoulder right and it's because this what I like the older guys I'm 30. Somebody that's 50. Even like a guy like Charlie Mack. Right, I respect Charlie Mack, but you would hear Charlie Mack say things like sometimes, like a guy like me might have, it might have took me five years or three years. Or look at young boys like Shake that they made a song and in three months you know, what I mean.
Speaker 4:But they look at it like, oh, they ain't have to work like us. Yo, it's a new era, it's a new time. Y'all got to get with the new time of what's going on. You know, I told my partner, kenny Blake. I said, kenny, I brought you on in this partnership because I respect you and I should not make no mistakes that you made. You took the ass whooping for us. What you and Lay done that was for everybody else to not have to go through that. So you took them ass whoopings.
Speaker 2:There's no reason why I got to go take them, not to say you, but you have to take an ass whooping to at least know reason why I gotta go take them. You have not to say you, but you have to take an ass whooping to at least know the game a little.
Speaker 4:Yes, you know, but why is me and you homies, us three homies, and we all take the?
Speaker 2:ass levels. We already passed this. How do you?
Speaker 4:not give me the game right to make sure that I don't do the same thing?
Speaker 2:It should be easier now.
Speaker 4:It should be easier. Yep, and that's what I explained to him. I said, bro, I shouldn't take no losses. You know why? Because that's what you are here for. Yeah, you've been through the little ups and downs in the industry. Yeah, whereas though you might have felt like that was a bad deal, but now you understand what's a good deal. You understand, but now you understand what's a good deal you understand these things like as time go on, your resources grow too fast. Yes, and then, your mind.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you start seeing stuff, the industry. Yo, bro, you start learning. In the last 60 days I learned so much just by being hands-on on it. It's a crazy, wicked game. Yes, it's wicked, and if you emotional, it ain't built for you, because this one we talk about cash, the street, the gangsters. You got dudes that ain't even cut like that. But they'll try you, they'll play with you like they street, I'm telling you, and you gotta be physically, emotionally built for that to understand.
Speaker 4:Like and I'm going to but the biggest thing is paperwork and understanding what you signed and people be mad out here about the deals that they signed. What you mad about the deal that you signed. You know what I mean. In Philadelphia and this is something that I want to tap into you have the industry and then you have Philadelphia, right. And when I say the industry is, if a label gets you on a messed up deal, it's business, that's the label, it's business. But when you got these guys out here that these young brothers look up to, it's personal.
Speaker 4:You shouldn't. None of these young boys Should be looking in they deals or finding out that they got fucked over by dudes that they were looking up to and me and Mont Brown had a conversation about that. I said, bro, understand, if you 18 and I'm big dog and you look at me like big dog, you gonna sign whatever I tell you to sign because you looking at me like this nigga got my best interest, I'm good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I got him with me. Yeah, I'm good. So when these young boys get felled by these people that they look up to, you pay if you look at it you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:It's like yo, you failed them or they think that you failed them because you didn't explain business. These are the things that I'm doing right now. If you call my artist, they got a lawyer. If you call my artist, they have a financial advisor. If you call my, these are the things working on the credit you got to show them. I'm not one of them dudes that like, yeah, we about to get money and I'm not going to show you something, because if I don't show you, you ain't going to never know. So now I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you this, I'm going to show you this. I'm going to show you the different things to help you execute and to help you not go back down that way. And Philadelphia, it ain't too many good labels. It ain't too many good labels. Y'all felonies the shit out of these young boys, and I understand what they talking about.
Speaker 2:How many good labels do we have? They don't have the name, but how many do we?
Speaker 4:have. I don't think I can count on my hands how many good labels that we got in Philly.
Speaker 2:So there we have it, this, the Real of the Most podcast. Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment If you don't. You a motherfucking hater. That was 32.
Speaker 1:Wow, because it's free, all right.
Speaker 3:So look, look, look, do all that right, Do all the artists. Do everything that you been going through, everything that you been enduring through life, through the streets, through the industry. You wind up? No, not, you wind up. You always do philanthropy work, community service work, community work. It's like you, just for the people, and we just had the election come up Before you go there, though, I wanted to say something real quick.
Speaker 2:What. Before you go there, though, I wanted to say something real quick. What? Because you about to go from hood to political right With the music. Where do you see yourself in the next few years with the artists, you working with you?
Speaker 3:speeding, though, that's not, I got to go from right there. Then we come back to Old Ass Miz, because that's how that go you said it now.
Speaker 1:You said it now. You might as well ask him now Go ahead, go ahead. Yo buddy.
Speaker 4:Come on what's the question?
Speaker 2:I was just saying where you see yourself with the music, with all the stuff you was just saying. You learn, you won't make these mistakes no more like how you see yourself sharpening where you see yourself being that you know what, and I get y'all both questions.
Speaker 4:I think I'm gonna answer his first and then that's a good one.
Speaker 4:So just to explain, like the politics, I had to pivot. When I say in 2020, it was when I, when I, when I was like hustling, we used to throw like little book bag drives on the corner of the block to get the law off of us. But we was giving back. But then my old head, the city commissioner, shout out, omar sabir. He was my teacher. I went to Germantown Mass Jet School, I went to Iowa Oxen. He was my teacher in school and he used to tell me he said yo, get your nonprofit, your 501c3, and you can really help your neighborhood. Two years ago, I get it. Now the pandemic come. This is my everyday go hard F music. Right here. I'm focused on the neighborhood. For the last four or five years it's just been consistent neighborhood, consistent, empowering people, consistency, consistency. You know what I mean. That consistency led me to the commercial, the election. You know what I mean, with the vice president being on a commercial and getting several opportunities and building several relationships.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. And a lot of people, especially my Instagram followers, a lot of people is used to the glam or the glitter, so a lot of my followers, that's what they looking for. Right, they even looking for the glam or the glitter, or they like yo, duke, when you going to take it to that next level. So they didn't unfollow me, but they sitting and they ghost watching because it's like, okay, what's next? What's next? We know what you, you got to get over to show us like yeah, so you know that's where it's at now. You know what I mean. That consistency work led me to. You know these opportunities, and these opportunities are very, very needed. The things that I'm doing. In the hood, I just did a job fair where we just employed 250 people, 59th and Woodland 59th and Elmwood.
Speaker 3:Elmwood.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Like who doing this? And somebody called me and said yo, how much they pay you to do that. I said that's why I'm blessed, because I ain't get paid to do that right and that's what I've been working on that for a year. It took me a year to put that together and then on the day it's seven hours out of my day. I ain't make no money, but that's what I help the people make some money.
Speaker 4:This is for the people right so when you say you really for the people, this is that's. I'm really for the people. That's the word. Everything is not. I don't get paid. I'm just people thinking because I'm like these they seen what happened in the last 90 days I don't get no grants, I ain't got no million dollars in grants and all that it's still my money, y'all you know. I mean, I'm just getting help. Now the help is actually starting the process, but people look at you like, oh dang, they get you this, they get you that. No, yeah, this is this shows me. This would make them respect me more, because it's my heart. My heart earned money that I'm spending into this. It's not a return on that. The the only return is a blessing from God.
Speaker 3:Right, right.
Speaker 4:And to answer your question, my guy, where do I see myself at? I'm really a Muslim at heart and I'm not one of them that just preach Islam. You know what I mean. I'm not perfect, but as I'm getting older by 35, I got to live a straight path and I'm not saying I'm going to be perfect, but certain stuff like the music haram, that ain't going to be in my life forever. You know what I mean. It's other ways, what I'm doing for the community that is halal. You know what I mean. There's nothing wrong with that, the things that I'm doing. You know what I mean. There's nothing wrong with that, the things that I'm doing.
Speaker 4:So the way that I'm pivoted, it is to die with Allah being happy with me from all the past years of sinning and sinning and doing everything that I would have if I was doing. Yeah, I can't live my life like that forever. Right, you know what I mean? I got a real Muslim family Like my mom prayed five times a day. My grandmom they in class. It's like yo. Okay, dude, we respect what you're doing, but I'm not going to be that 40-year-old boy throwing parties. No disrespect to y'all, my life ain't set up for that. I'm just being honest. My life ain't.
Speaker 4:And I ask these dudes why y'all 50 and don't own the club yet? This is why our people's is falling, why you don't own that building, why don't you? What's going on? Y'all running bags up. What are we? Don't even let me get into that man.
Speaker 4:We're going to say that for part two, when I come, shake the motherfucking city up and I come back, and I come back with some results. You know what I mean, because now it's the process. The results is starting to show, the results are in. Now it's time for me to go kick ass and I'll be back to y'all before the. You know what I mean summertime, at the Ramadan, and we gonna talk like dang dude, you was just here 90 days ago. Y'all got the gold, y'all got the this. Y'all got that because with these artists that I got right now, you could put your favorite rapper in front of them. They not seeing them, their personality, who they are. They ain't running around talking. They got a hit song without a cuss word. They got a hit song without talking about a gun. They got a hit song without talking about ops. All fun. We can't get songs like this in the city of Philadelphia.
Speaker 3:How it feel like conquering that space, like being able to like actually like be through bit, be able to go through what you've been through and everything that you went through so far as the streets, the game, the industry, and now I mean now you get these great young boys a blessing from God and they got a great hit, and it's like really putting some numbers on the board with this one. Like how does it feel for you, like to come back and really smash them with this? How does it feel I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 4:I had a chip on my shoulder. I felt like I'm out for blood. They owe me because they ain't really respecting it, and when they ain't respecting it you gotta take it. You get what I'm saying? So I got a chip on my shoulder because I know that they can't fuck with me in the city of philadelphia. My heart is more pure than a lot of these dudes, so at the end sometimes it might take a little longer. Look it just like I'm just now making a bucket after nine years. But my bucket is gonna be better than everybody that score buckets. Because when you look right now, what's going on in philly, y'all, how many ended. How many labels do we got active right now in philly. Throw some names out. That's active right now. Y'allall. That's fucking the town over Touring them, they doing they thing.
Speaker 2:Name another label. D2a, d2a. We talking about tours.
Speaker 4:He said yes, name somebody that you like yo. They got them young boys smashing my young boys. We just did five homecomings, all paid jobs.
Speaker 3:They was crazy too.
Speaker 2:They ain't with Stagger Stars.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:So I can't even say your name.
Speaker 4:No, you can say them if you feel like they doing their thing.
Speaker 2:I'm asking y'all they still doing their thing though, right you asking us? I'm asking y'all Not right now.
Speaker 4:I'm asking y'all, I'm asking y'all, I'm asking y'all you gotta think about it who the fuck is putting on right now? Kenny Blake and CEO Big.
Speaker 2:Duke. So wait, wait, wait, wait, bando baby right.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Garci and Rod Are they doing them? Who putting on? Who really like? Who scoring shots? We talking about shots now Cause I'm on the motherfucking court, so now who's scoring shots? We talking about shots now because I'm on the motherfucking court, so now we on the court. We talking about shots. Who putting up real shots and scoring buckets?
Speaker 3:nobody putting up no numbers talk to me.
Speaker 2:Oh man, y'all not gonna let him talk like talk to me, I'm.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna start popping that shit like I used to pop to the niggas in the club. We could pop 100 bottles tonight. Who got? Who got they money? Who came to perform? Because I'm in this motherfucking?
Speaker 1:game and I got a chip on my shoulder.
Speaker 4:I got a chip on my shoulder. I ain't talking about Ryder, because Ryder's a spitter. We ain't talking about the spitter. We talking about.
Speaker 2:I don't know the artist, I'm just naming labels.
Speaker 1:That's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. That's basically what I'm saying. I got love for a lot of dudes in the city, but when we speakin' facts, we speakin' facts, I'm on everybody's ass, even if you my homie. This shit is a competitive sport and I'm coming for it Because I ain't got that much time. I don't got that much time in the music industry.
Speaker 1:I'm not about to be here for 10 years.
Speaker 4:I'm about to come make a mark in five three to five years. Yes, they not really doing but one thing I'm not going to leave here without saying is I respect.
Speaker 4:Look, let me say this, though, because I'm just now getting on the court Niggas been on the court, right. I respect everybody that score buckets, if you, because it's hard and now that I'm in the industry I understand it's hard to close a deal. Yes, it is. You know how much going back and forth to it's hard. So for dudes that even done that, even if you done bad business, just that part right there, I gotta give some type of respect. But I don't respect felonies. Young boys, man, I'm big on that. When this shit is all said and done, y'all gonna see every artist that I deal with be on camera saying yo, them boys stood on business. You about to see my artist moving their moms from the, from the trenches. This is, this is what we needed. This is what we call like when I, when I say who put it on? That's what.
Speaker 2:I mean Friday or money white. They done it. They are next level.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying like I'll ride around and listen to Friday. I know all Friday songs.
Speaker 4:I'm a fan of Friday Speaking on the Philly level. Who is helping these young boys change their situation? Why are these young boys getting a deal and then get locked up for guns and what's?
Speaker 1:going on. Who in?
Speaker 4:Philly.
Speaker 2:And the last.
Speaker 4:That's just in general. A lot of people, you know what I mean, a lot of these young boys. Y'all just had Mook up here, mook, so to tell y'all, he got into a high speed chase before.
Speaker 2:Like. These are the things that happen. You know what I mean. I've seen these young boys. I ain't gonna lie yeah.
Speaker 4:They go through things. You know what I mean. So it's like, yes, they do, you go through things. But it's like how can we, as leaders, protect With this industry? Shit, it's next level. You got to be there like this with these artists.
Speaker 2:You got to show them. Kenny Blake got little bucks too he had little bucks, I remember him having little bucks.
Speaker 4:He got little bucks in him, a deal. Yeah, he had little bucks in him Right right Now. He just got late. And then now we got Sturdy Young and then we got Old Ass Miz, and then we signed another young buck. We just signed. I'm striking, I'm coming out. I'm sorry y'all, I'm not even sorry. Y'all might like this nigga talking heavy. I am Cause I'm on these niggas ass. I'm coming out. This bitch. I got a chopper. This shit is gonna go when this shit Get to swinging. I just signed Another artist yesterday While closing another deal.
Speaker 4:So, y'all about this. It's going down. I'm waving this chopper. This bitch going Get out my way Because every artist that I'm dropping we bombing shit.
Speaker 3:So it's safe to say that CEO Duke is in his fucking bag and you are a vessel for the kids to further their careers, if they got the right type of talent.
Speaker 4:Yes, but I'm mad because I cussed a lot on this and the way that I'm going, you're cool.
Speaker 3:We good, we going to make sure, we going to make you right.
Speaker 1:We going to make sure you're right?
Speaker 4:Yes, I am. The young boys know that they can come to me. I can show you all my DM right now.
Speaker 2:Young boys, the popping young boys that y'all know, trying to get up with me because they understand I'm back. That's the hype part of it. But let's say like, do you feel like right now you're an accomplished deal closer bro when it comes to these artists?
Speaker 4:Yes, what I just closed, I'm accomplished. We might have one of the best deals in Philadelphia. I don't get on this shit and just be speaking. I'm talking this shit. The world going to see this. Yes, you ain't seen my video. I said I'm in a fucking game. I'm in a game. This shit is game time. I ain't capping. I waited my turn. I could talk like this because y'all all can say I waited my turn.
Speaker 3:It took me nine years to make a bucket.
Speaker 4:It's deserved.
Speaker 3:And y'all put the point, and y'all really putting the points up, no, when y'all see this bucket, this a real bucket.
Speaker 2:This a real bucket.
Speaker 4:We're going to talk after the pod go off, but no man, I appreciate y'all for having me. We ain't nowhere near done though. We got you for another five, but no man, I appreciate y'all For having me. I know Once I win. We ain't never done though.
Speaker 2:We got. We got you for another Five, ten minutes. Okay, let's go ahead and Get the games rolling. White boy, let's Before we.
Speaker 1:Before we do that man. I just wanna Tell you like we appreciate you. To the max you already know you a part of Really the most family. Now, I wasn't even talking this episode because I really wanted to hear everything you were saying.
Speaker 3:And I wanted to run it down how I wanted to run it down? Because, like you said, people don't be knowing.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 3:I just wanted them to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I wanted them to know as well and also like once you spoke on giving people the flowers and you basically was talking a lot of things that people would not say, Right, you feel me and for that reason, like that's why I just let you talk and was was soaking you know information and knowledge up so the audience can hear that and be like damn, like he one person who know this and you can count on him for that.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying so when they come to southwest, though, big duke, definitely like a face. You feel what I'm saying and I wanted to A.
Speaker 4:Cash. I appreciate that, but it's not. Big Duke is I am, I am, I am, I am, I am Me, I am, I am Southwest. You know what I mean and that's just real. Whoever feels some type of way, they can feel how they feel I'm more than a nigga. I'm just saying you know, a lot of people feel like they are Read Dollars. No see, I love read dollars. You know why? I can show you our DMs, right?
Speaker 1:now Read.
Speaker 4:Embracing me. This is what I'm saying. This is the type of old dudes that I love Read, duke, I remember you know a nigga when you was in a barbershop, did-da-da-da-da. You know what I mean you doing your thing. Yeah, just embrace a young nigga, right. That, you see, is doing something positive.
Speaker 2:Don't try to compete.
Speaker 4:What are we?
Speaker 2:competing for what are we doing? Mm-hmm, what are we doing?
Speaker 4:But I know y'all said I got another five to 10 minutes, another few. We're going to let y'all go. You can rock Go ahead no because I was going to tell y'all, I want to give some advice to artists when it comes to deals. One thing is a book called All you Need to Know About the Music Business. Right, I know that book. You get that book for $13. It have every marketing. It will break down. It's 2024, so you can get the updated region. It explained to you the splits.
Speaker 2:It explained to you everything you need to know it cut down the music business book 101 into a short book okay, I never.
Speaker 4:I read that. That's exactly what it does. It's a black music business book called 101.
Speaker 4:Okay, but this book, if you want to just go read on publishing, you can just go read on publishing. Y'all have to educate yourselves. Sure, I am going to blame half of these dudes in the city for failing y'all, but y'all have to start taking the initiative to say, okay, I trust him. Start taking the initiative to say, okay, I trust him. But let me take my own uh consideration and my own uh efforts to go find a lawyer, to go find a big bro that you may think, oh, read over this, stop just signing this stuff. And stop signing this stuff, right and with these new york labels, right. But then y'all come to the hood and be mad at the nigga that done the same thing that a label would have done. But I understand why y'all so upset, because this is city leaders that y'all looked up to. Y'all could do it today right there you good.
Speaker 4:I'm saying so like I want artists to like start educating themselves more, because this music stuff is not all about music.
Speaker 3:It's business.
Speaker 4:It's a business and if you understand the business you could get further. And I don't understand the business all the way.
Speaker 2:But that's key right there, though.
Speaker 4:So you gotta make sure you, if you're doing business with anybody, just make sure you see them do some type of business before you get into business with them or even just know what you're doing, because, like the business that we done, the bucket that we just made, we don't know them, boys, but when that, when that, when that paperwork right and we got my lawyer, like, yeah, he know how to do business yeah that's what you need.
Speaker 4:Y'all cannot be in these meetings doing the business yourself. That's another thing. Stop letting your old head think he can do the deal for you. This game is crazy, y'all.
Speaker 3:If y'all want to be successful, you got to have the right entities in your corner to execute the right things, because it looks tacky when you're trying to bring your old head in there to try to just sign some paperwork or do some type of business.
Speaker 4:You're only successful as your team. Your team like even we explain this to my artists right now Y'all got the hottest song. How many people had the hottest song? But right back in the hood they didn't have the proper guidance, they didn't listen. There's a lot of things you got to have the team to say listen, this is the direction. All I need you to do is follow this game plan.
Speaker 4:A lot of these young boys I cannot blame them, being though I'm 30, I am the glue between the young generation and the old generation, and I understand that the youngest. It's not that they don't listen, it's not that they don't. First of all, they can't comprehend, and then the second, they don't got the direction. People just like, oh, do this and do that. No, bro, you got to really say listen, this is how we about to do it, this is how you do it. That's what it is is. I just had a job, fair, in the middle of the trenches. You know why? Because I know people don't know how to read. People ain't, you ain't gonna. Just because you don't know how to read, don't mean that you're not a good worker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the job don't even you don't even gotta read nothing, you get what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying but you have to read to get the job. So a lot of people get discouraged because they can't read. You'll be surprised how many people can't read or fill out an application. So this is why I bought stuff like that to the hood, because I understand that we lack at these things and we need more resources like that.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So if you bring employers to the hood, to the trenches, they see who they dealing with right here, you get what I'm saying. You get the proper help that you need. We gotta guide our people way better. We gotta be better leaders for sure. I remember my man told me, duke, you was a bad leader, nigga. I was 21 and y'all was fucking 30 like. You know what I mean. But now, when we speak to up to date, I'm way more than a better leader than I was at 20. You know people expected something that I wasn't right. You know I mean because of the money. Yeah, don't let money justify how you respect somebody. I tell this don't call this dude, you're over here because he got money or a certain vehicle don't think, because he's thorough, because he got money
Speaker 4:and that right there, that's the biggest problem that we be having too. People respect only money. I don't. I respect somebody that lost it, because the person that lost it, they could tell you like they had it. They built it up and then they lost it. That's way more than a person who sustained it easy, even though it's a little harder to sustain it. But I value that person that lost it, the advice that they have. I don't look at people like man, you was a could have should have, like no, I ain't. That's the people that I go talk to right right so to learn how not to lose it.
Speaker 4:To learn how not to lose it. Man, like I could go on the talk all day, y'all. Once I get some good conversation and then once I get to talking, it's just like memories popping back in my head. Like damn that. Like I was talking to you Marketing. I closed a $100,000 deal for Humble with the school district. You done that? What clothing brand out of Philadelphia? You see, go get 100,000 from a school, one school for uniforms to help them make the kids come to.
Speaker 3:That's big Duke work. That was ill too.
Speaker 4:That's big dude.
Speaker 3:I remember that deal, just to get them to come to speak just to get them to reach they go to make the kids come to school yeah. I'm gonna.
Speaker 4:This brand has so much power that we were able to close a $100,000 deal with a Philadelphia school. What brand do you know in the city running around BET weekend selling merch and awards? What brand do you know pulling up at the EYL in Atlanta with the top high school players in the country, all around the world and meeting LeBron James, having access your team? You sharp if your team sharp because you need your team. How do we get to these places? Because the resources, because of what I know. That's my job, that's what I'm going to do. You need a team. That's my job, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3:You need a team that's you do, that's you do All the time.
Speaker 4:Who was young K tour manager Me? Mm-hmm, you good, I'm saying. Who was his booking agent Me.
Speaker 3:Play them roles. We could keep going All right. So, look, we played, we played all right on, rather than most we played, we played. We played a couple games on here at the end. Now, man, it ain't nothing too crazy, you don't gotta do too much thinking as you just pick one of the other. It's called fast track, right, and because we from philly I like to always start off with this one state property or major figures.
Speaker 4:State prop chain gang.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 4:Shout out Speedo though, Uncle Speed.
Speaker 3:Reed Dollaz or Joey Jag Whoa.
Speaker 4:I'm a Southwest boy, big Reed. Okay, dang, that was that was that was that was Styles P or DMX? Dmx.
Speaker 3:Okay, nam Brigade or Philly Moves Wanted.
Speaker 4:Philly Moves Wanted because I ain't know that other group.
Speaker 3:You ain't know, nam. They was from Southwest too.
Speaker 2:I knew like what's's that 57 chester, 58 uh what buggy and him, no, that was um ace capone?
Speaker 1:oh no, no no, nam was q don meek mill ram no, I don't know none of them, but me Early in the game.
Speaker 4:But I know the old head, I got the game on smash girl.
Speaker 3:You know I'm 30.
Speaker 4:And I wasn't off the step all like early, early, I was off the step Unless he into music, music, music.
Speaker 2:You don't know them niggas, what's his name?
Speaker 4:that just came home. That was with Pusha T, my old head, roscoe Pete.
Speaker 1:Roscoe Pete.
Speaker 4:Now that's a real Southwest legend that I know. He knew me from a kid, yeah he on, yeah he on.
Speaker 1:Y'all got to get Roscoe up here because Roscoe's saucing.
Speaker 4:He out here, I ain't going to lie, that's one rapper that I seen come home and I got to give him his credit because he out here doing this thing, he on flights, he traveling, he, you know, I mean he, he don't look lost boy, really boy, like I don't know, like I seen him on tv right, but I look out my backyard. One day, and I seen him getting busy one day like in another fashion, right?
Speaker 3:I used to see him. You know what I'm saying, right?
Speaker 2:And I'm like yo. That's the boy, that's right.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, maybe you say all that ice cream. Yeah, yeah, he was like.
Speaker 4:I was a young boy, man coming up, man Southwest inspired me. The people before me inspired me. Man Like the hustlers you got the LA's, the Hoagies, the Hot Boys, the Rick Lowe's, the 58th Street. The man like man Southwest just had so much to look up to.
Speaker 3:Who I last said. I said, alright, so we're going to go right here. We're going to go the Lox or Diplomats.
Speaker 4:Diplomats. That was more like my speed.
Speaker 2:Let me get on one man. Go ahead, since you want to go there, you ready. Let's get it Beans or Jadakiss. Beans All right Gilly or Freeway, two different niggas Freeway you gotta get free.
Speaker 4:Like Gilly, my favorite comedian now. Like he more funny, like I love Gilly, just a dummy.
Speaker 3:Like Miss J or Nina Ross.
Speaker 4:Hey yo y'all niggas know I'm 30. Y'all talking about some Miss J, I know them though.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Miss J and Nina.
Speaker 2:I know them. I know them, I know them, we're going to go here All right, I got them.
Speaker 3:I got them too, though I ain't going to lie, damn no, right, I got him. I got him too, though I ain't going to lie, Damn no, but I'm going to be honest. Rico Hagevic, nina Ross was that yes? And Miss.
Speaker 4:Jade, was that they?
Speaker 3:both was that.
Speaker 4:When I'm looking at it, I feel like Nina Ross probably was more that than I could remember as a kid.
Speaker 3:I don't know she was, that it was Miss J Rico Havoc or Zy Sosa.
Speaker 4:Damn.
Speaker 3:That was a crazy one.
Speaker 4:I'm going to be honest, though, right Whoa, they both some talented people when you talk about music.
Speaker 3:Zy Sosa.
Speaker 4:They can't fuck with Zy Sosa still to this day. And Rico is a good songwriter, but Zy Sosa is a star.
Speaker 3:They going to cook you in the comments. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 4:Zy Sosa makes songs, rico makes songs too, but you talking about the youth?
Speaker 3:Shake that or Bamba.
Speaker 4:Shake that. I'm gonna say shake that, miz gonna put you in the headlock.
Speaker 2:That's the thing.
Speaker 4:Wait till going to say shake that I'm going to put you in the headlock.
Speaker 2:Wait till we walk in the studio I'm going to put you right in the headlock.
Speaker 4:I'm going to say shake that, because shake that opened the doors. Bumba, with the team we punching that shit going to slap way harder, we're going to do more damage. You get what I'm saying. We're going to it a better dollar amount.
Speaker 2:We go.
Speaker 3:We go yeah, I'm mr Casamigo with the bumble.
Speaker 4:Ross daughter just commented on the. John Rick Ross put it up on his gram TikTok. They said I'm addicted to this song. Like his daughter said, I'm making my dad hop on the remix. Shout out Jen Carter, New York, New York, going crazy right now for that bumba. New York is bigger than Philly right now.
Speaker 3:No, I'm talking about as far as art.
Speaker 4:And that joint viral here in Philly but it's viruler in New York.
Speaker 3:That's where you wanted to go viral at All, right.
Speaker 2:You got one for him Cash.
Speaker 1:What fast track.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, yeah, yeah, go on fast track.
Speaker 1:Let me see. Let me see All right, let's do future Drake Future.
Speaker 3:Key on a mom brown. Kaya, you say on a mom brown.
Speaker 4:My brand, my brand is a fucking legend.
Speaker 3:Damn. I like, I like, like, yeah, I fuck with my thing, yeah.
Speaker 4:I fuck with Kion too, but yeah, Mont Brown.
Speaker 3:Mont Brown yeah that's like a.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, I get it. I don't even mean to just that. Shit probably sounds a little crazy, but Because Kion was part of my success, right, you know what I mean. He part of my story, right. But Mont Brown, yeah, they older, yeah, my brother older than us too, so he was off the steps. So that's not that's what I mean. When I say old nigga, young nigga, you can't.
Speaker 1:It's like I was your parent, Wartenberg or Dallas Merritt Uh uh. Martin Dallas, martin my bad.
Speaker 4:Wartenberg. Yeah, wartenberg, wartenberg, orlando because he touched the hood. I got his number on my phone. He follow me still from he been signing all Puerto Ricans, though, since he been over there he been signing all Spanish.
Speaker 3:What did you say?
Speaker 4:I said Wartenberg because he still feet on land. I knew him. I met him five years ago. He never unfollowed me. You know how these dudes be going back through. He still follow me. He still come on the page. You know, I mean, he's there and stuff like that. It's like that's a big time ball, you know I mean. So these dudes won't come on the land like he will.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and that's what I tell artists the dude, the people that's gonna give you your money, they're not gonna come on this field. So you gotta put everything on this social media to make them go happier, to get more happier, to get more excited, because they, they get a rush off instagram. Everything is literally off instagram, everything. They watch tiktok and they watch instagram and the more you feed them, your dollar amount gonna keep going up. You know, I mean they ain't coming to the trenches, they'll watch you, but if you got your cameraman with you every time and y'all moving around, that's why content is a big key to everything that's going on. Rappers, I don't care if you're just a raw spitter Content. Post 15-second little clips of you saying the hottest shit of a song. Like content. Just keep putting it in. They faces. That wins the game right there. Lil Baby or Thug Lil Baby.
Speaker 3:Keisha Cole or Monica.
Speaker 4:Keisha Cole.
Speaker 3:Usher or Chris Brown.
Speaker 4:Damn, damn, usher.
Speaker 1:You can't.
Speaker 3:All right, two-barrel lead banks.
Speaker 4:Oh, two-barrel lead banks, you got to give it to Lee Banks. Alright, two mirror, two mirror, you gotta give it. You gotta give it to Lee Banks. When you look at stats and you look at what's going on, you got Lay was just. Lay was just on the WNBA. Yeah, she's on the WNBA commercial Fire. You know what I mean? I think she just got. I seen something. She got like mtv, uh, top artists of the world or something like that. Uh, october, november, some fly stuff too rare, too rarely banks.
Speaker 2:You should have done what's your god, what's her name? We always say what's her name. We always say In here, who the rapper?
Speaker 1:Rocky.
Speaker 2:No, the one that got the platinum record Dope Dizzle.
Speaker 3:What's her rap name? Oh, tierra Whack, tierra Whack.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 4:Tierra Whack. Man, that's too far Tierra Whack. If you see this, I love Tierra Whack. No, I love her. Oh, all right.
Speaker 2:What you doing, man, I'll be dealing with her. You rolling.
Speaker 3:But look though, One got to go One got to go though.
Speaker 2:Man you ready for this, let's go. You want to do it or I'll go. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, K, All right. So this is the opposite. So I'm going to say four people, and then you just choose.
Speaker 4:One of them got to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, all right, so I'm going to do the Philly one first. All right, nh, reed Meek or Joey J.
Speaker 4:Damn H. I love you. Nh got to go.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that was really a no-brainer for me being his goal. Another one I love you, nh gotta go. Okay, okay, that was really a no brainer for real being his dog.
Speaker 2:Another one.
Speaker 1:Huh, you got another one, no go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'ma do state property Osquino Young, Chris, Beanie, Siegel, Petey Crack one gotta go.
Speaker 1:Bam Seagull, petey Crack one gotta go.
Speaker 4:Mm Bam, petey and Petey is a spitter, but Petey gotta go. He inconsistent.
Speaker 3:Petey Petey on that list.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he is Damn. But you hear why I say he got to because he ain't outside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he the most inconsistent, petey Crack, petey Crack, mos, petey Crack.
Speaker 1:Osquino young Chris Beanie Siegel he the most inconsistent.
Speaker 4:And I said Petey had to go. I said Petey had to go.
Speaker 2:And Petey hot the brrring, no way, petey way to the baby a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was real, it would have been. I'm going to do the little down south joint. We got All right TI, Gucci, Jeezy and Gotti.
Speaker 4:Damn TI.
Speaker 1:Damn, what the fuck. You the best person, never mind.
Speaker 4:Everybody got their own opinions here. I don't really respect TI. All the fuck. You the best person, Nah man. Everybody got their own opinions here. I don't really respect y'all all the way.
Speaker 2:Time. Whoa. Now he took it somewhere else. Urban, what's your name Now you just took it somewhere else.
Speaker 4:That's how y'all feel. I ain't who would y'all be.
Speaker 2:Now you talking crazy.
Speaker 3:All right, so let's do this. Yo, that's my guy, though. Shout out to him let's do this, let's do this. Reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1:That was crazy.
Speaker 2:Let's do this what did he just say he took it way out of the park?
Speaker 1:with that. I don't respect him.
Speaker 2:Everybody on the list respect me. Reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1:That was crazy.
Speaker 2:Everybody on the list respect me. Because you don't know the that list. Respect boy, because you're younger, so let's do these albums, let's do it.
Speaker 3:That's, if it is the good, let's do these albums let's do thug. Motivation 101 whoa, you're going crazy um thug motivation 101. Watch the throne um Still Maddie and Dark and Hella, hella's Hot DMX One gotta go.
Speaker 4:Still Maddie, because I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 3:That's Nas.
Speaker 4:It sounds like Nas. Yeah, yeah, I was more of a Jay-Z fan and Nas was bombing on hoes too, but I was like that's what I'm saying when I was at the barbershop.
Speaker 2:You cool, stillmatic is good girl.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, them Jay-Z, them Jay-Z, dang I like the album doing.
Speaker 2:I ain't never hear us do albums.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 4:Hey.
Speaker 2:Do the CEOs real quick though.
Speaker 4:I wanted to touch on one more thing too. Go ahead. No, I wanted to touch on because there was something else that when we speaking on the things that I do, like the empowerment program.
Speaker 4:I got an empowerment program where I go to schools, ok, and I take my peers and we teach the young kids, we expose them to entrepreneurship and we teach them different trades and different things like that. So when I speak on like the different things and why I feel like I am who I am, is because, like, look how we setting these people up for the future. Yeah, we bring in housing programs for the parents, we bring in trades for the adults and the kids and then we bring in trades and they, starting off at 10 years old, to have these kids by the time they turn 14.
Speaker 4:They they mind like yo. I learned this that that that they could pick from a lot of different things. They don't gotta go to college, so it's like we like setting them up and when people be talking that like for the hood, you know, for the future, this is what that looks like. This is what that looks like. This is what that looks like we could have a future too.
Speaker 2:So you could add us on if you need us for whatever the empowerment program. For sure I see what y'all doing.
Speaker 4:I seen the couple visits y'all had with Manny 215 that's another young nigga. I give him his respect. Manny, out here making a name for himself doing what he do you gotta respect anybody that's out here making the name for himself doing what he do. Yeah, you know, I mean. So that's definitely. You know. You got to respect anybody that's out here. That's being rejected, but don't let rejection turn you away yeah you still gonna go and get it.
Speaker 4:So that's very well respected man. But yeah, like I just wanted to tap in on that, like there's a lot that we do that a guy like me I don't go around bragging about these things or the different things that I've done for people, because I'm so busy continuously doing it yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:But I felt like I need to get up here to these podcasts, I need to show a little bit of this side of me because, like I said, people only know that glam and glitter and then when I chilled and pivoted and went this way, they like well, damn, martin Luther King, malcolm X, that's the shit that you start getting. When people don't understand change and a transition, they start saying hate and shit.
Speaker 1:They reject it. Yeah, like damn, oh damn. It's like bro. You know what I mean. Save the world you know, what I mean.
Speaker 3:No, it's like, bro you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Save the world. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No, it's Philly, though. All right, that's the last one right here. Oh, I had one, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:All right, Master no.
Speaker 4:Jay-Z, dr Dre, diddy Birdman, one gotta go Dang. That's really really tough.
Speaker 3:And this is off of a personal opinion right?
Speaker 4:Uh-huh, I respect and I love. I used to really like love JayZ and respect GZ, but GZ got to go yeah who I ain't going to argue with that.
Speaker 2:I got one more for you and we can wrap this up. It's going to be NBA greatest basketball players Michael Jordanordan lebron, james, kobe bryant. Last but not least, who should I pick? I'm gonna say steve kerr, stephen curry, matter of fact I'm about to say what's up like what.
Speaker 4:I mean you just made it easy right there and he is a goop.
Speaker 3:but yeah, curry got to go when you put him on that list like he got to fucking go.
Speaker 4:I can't disrespect.
Speaker 3:LeBron and him you know what I mean and Curry is yeah. They did too much. They didn't do enough.
Speaker 1:Curry did come in. What would you say? I would have said Larry.
Speaker 4:Bird or some shit.
Speaker 1:I would have said LeBron.
Speaker 4:Magic Johnson, charles Barkley. He ain't with no chips, I know. But.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying I would have had to say Julius Irving.
Speaker 4:Or somebody like that I'm going to give it a B.
Speaker 1:You could have put Kev in there.
Speaker 4:Kevin Durant. That would have made it realant. That would have made it real hard, yeah. That would have made it real hard I wouldn't have said Kevin Durant, kevin Durant, I didn't even think of Durant.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Kevin Durant. He would have been the perfect fourth spot. Yeah, yeah, that's the next time.
Speaker 2:But look, man, we appreciate you coming through this. The real of the month, Definitely, definitely. He came through, gave his story. He taught us a lot, man, and I ain't even finished.
Speaker 4:Y'all might as well stay tuned for the documentary or something you might as well just come back up bro. Yeah, no, I told y'all, when I'm satisfied on the results, I'm going to do another run.
Speaker 3:That's it, let's go.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. We're going to do another run. Let's go. You know what I mean. We're going to do another one Right now. It's just to say I'm outside, that's what this was about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we here.
Speaker 4:I'm here.
Speaker 2:We're about to swing the chopper.
Speaker 4:That chopper, that Draco, you know what I mean. That thing, I'm swinging it. You hear me? It's going down, man. Y'all hear the first right here on the real of the most podcast man. This is one of the first podcasts that I've done in the last couple years and I mean, and like I'm back, I'm back outside I'll be feeling like a rapper, like you know how the rappers be popping that shit like I'm back in my bag.
Speaker 4:Man, I'm in my sauce man they've been seeing me outside they're like dude, what the fuck you doing outside? But I'm back, baby, yeah, and we coming to take this by a storm and um, for everybody that's watching this, yo, just pray for us. I mean pray for everybody in this room. Pray that you know our journey is successful and that's what I pray for when I pray. I pray that allah guide us. He got my kids, he got my journey, yeah, and as you see, the results start to happen. Continue to pray you.
Speaker 4:Good, I'm saying, continue to pray so, but prayer is one of the most number one things that you need to be able like cash. You said you go through them hard times. We think weed and drugs is the way to cope. No, if you got to nigga, go go pray, go cry and pray Like nigga. When my dad was booked, I used to be in my room on my knees crying Like yo, I can't get that Amber Crime. I can't wait for my dad to get home Because I couldn't. When everybody was going to the mall, I was going to Old Navy. When everybody was going to Amber Crime, be an American Eagle, because that's what my budget Old Navy wasn't bad but, it started being levels.
Speaker 4:The rips wasn't right, so I used to pray and I used to pray, and I used to pray. The rips wasn't right, but no man, prayer is key, man. Stay prayed up y'all. Really the most podcast. I appreciate y'all and your team.
Speaker 1:I'm real, I'm out of world cash.
Speaker 2:I'm white boy D2A and this is the Real of the most podcast. Y'all stay tuned, then we gonna keep Giving y'all more content Like this. We out of here, man, we out, and yo Y'all can follow me On all social media platforms At CEO Big Duke.
Speaker 4:At CEO Big Duke On all social media platforms. If you need to get with me about some real business, my link is in my bio for the email. Just hit me up with an email If you got some good ideas, if y'all want to work, let's get it y'all.
Speaker 3:I'm about to make that Casamigo with the bumba Peace to y'all. Really the Moose Podcast.
