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IS HE IS OR IZZY NOT | FEAT BANDHUNTA IZZY | RTM PODCAST SZN 3 EP 8
Few conversations capture the raw reality of the music industry like this candid discussion with Baltimore's own Bandle Hunter Izzy. From the moment he walks into the studio, Izzy brings an authenticity that cuts through the typical industry talk, delivering straight truth about his journey through the music business.
The story of how Izzy landed his Republic Records deal reads like a movie script – accompanying another artist to a meeting, executives mistaking him for the main talent, and walking away with a contract himself. But what followed reveals the darker side of major label politics. With remarkable honesty, Izzy details how a cultural misunderstanding led to being blackballed, effectively shelved despite his potential. "They wanted me to shy away from that shit," he explains, describing the pressure to abandon his authentic style for more mainstream appeal.
Beyond career challenges, the conversation takes a deeply personal turn when Izzy opens up about losing his brother in December 2023. The emotion is palpable as he describes how this profound loss affected both his personal life and creative process. "Seeing my brother on that ground... that fucked my mind up a lot," he shares, giving listeners rare insight into how artists navigate creating music while processing grief. His struggle to balance making honest music without letting sadness define his entire catalog speaks to the complex relationship between art and personal experience.
Throughout the episode, Izzy champions Baltimore's underrecognized hip-hop scene, passionately listing talents like Tate, YG Tech, and Skola who haven't received deserved national attention. His perspective on legacy reveals a wisdom beyond the music itself: "Baltimore made me who I was, but it won't define who I become." This philosophy – focusing on genuine connections rather than broad validation – offers a powerful takeaway for anyone pursuing their passions against challenging odds.
Whether you're an aspiring artist, music industry professional, or simply appreciate authentic storytelling, this episode delivers invaluable insights about resilience, creative integrity, and finding your path despite unexpected obstacles. Subscribe now and join the conversation about what it really takes to navigate today's complex music landscape.
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Speaker 1:One day. Yeah, how you feeling bro.
Speaker 2:I be feeling behind, bro, so I be having a speed.
Speaker 1:How you feeling bro, I'm cool because, like I'm just chilling he's a real player no, I'll be on the same shit chilling, all right I'm moving around.
Speaker 2:I don't sit in one spot for two, bro. That's how light-skinned niggas do, bro, I mean take everything cool it ain't the light skin man.
Speaker 3:Yo Don't feel left out, so I can't be chilling, no you be chilling still, I'm like what you know what I'm saying Yo, we going to get into it, man, yeah. Let's do a rundown real quick.
Speaker 2:So you know, we got Izzy in the building today. Baltimore, right, you know what I mean. Known rapper Right, main known rapper right, very known rapper. You know what I'm saying. Baltimore d1 entertainment came up with with a bunch of rappers under that, under that label. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying I came up with d1, okay it ain't. No, I don't know no more d1, but I still got love for most of the people that was in there right, okay, not all of them, not all of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, you know what I'm saying and not all of them. Yeah, you know you know what I'm saying and you know, back and back, when they was coming with the uh record label and all that you know. I mean it was the top, top artist on the um label. I mean uh. So you know, at the time he, uh, you got your adult republic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was with Republic. Yeah, that's a branch of university, right? Right, I mean I said university Universal.
Speaker 2:Universal yeah, so you know.
Speaker 3:How you wanna take However you take it. However, you take it.
Speaker 2:So you know, I ain't no character, tom, it's just like Say it to me Out the hood you know the game industry. We gonna get into a few things today. You know what I'm saying. He wanted them guys from done. Dated a few women in the game I seen him on a video all.
Speaker 3:I seen chop was in a video chop, chop, chop, chop, chop some sticks.
Speaker 2:That was back in the day. That shit was probably fake, bro.
Speaker 3:It was back in the day. Props it wasn't on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that shit was probably fake girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, y'all had the prompt drawings, though I remember.
Speaker 2:I remember.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's how y'all get down in the music industry, man, you know.
Speaker 1:You know everything be fabricated Like.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like the Like. When you sign with a label Like, they'll tell you like you need to keep doing this, but you gotta do it in a legal way. So they'll just tell you like I'll switch it up like that.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna front that's crazy that you just you said that, and because you said that, we might as well just get right into it Might as well.
Speaker 2:Alright. So I wanted to you D1 prom artist. You feel me, you strike the deal at Republic. Now, when you get the deal at Republic, it's looking good for you. But then I'm like damn, like what the fuck going on over there? You know, I mean major label. What's the hold up? And then when I get to asking questions and figuring out like oh shit, so I heard that they wanted you to kind of like lean into, like the gang crip type shit or like whatever that was going on around you or type some type time, and I don't know if that's what you like, really wanted to do.
Speaker 1:No more so like I got blackballed from them, but it was more so like it wasn't because of that. Ok they wanted me to shy away from that shit. Shout out, saint. That was my A&R there.
Speaker 2:Like he tell me, like bro, you got to venture off to the like.
Speaker 1:Cater to the women in mainstream. This this and that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really had got like black ball, because you know just me being young from the trenches, like just the way we think and the way we talk and shit, like it don't cater to other people. Well, right and I had told like one of the people who was working there, like suck my dick or something okay, and she went and told.
Speaker 1:She went and told, but I was joking though I ain't matter of fact, I ain't say suck my dick, motherfucking. They was making, we was making jokes and a girl I ain't gonna say her name was acting like we was cool. You feel me? So it's like the way we talk. When I'm cool with somebody, it's like. She was laughing At another nigga joke. That was about me and I'm like Damn you sucking dick, ain't you?
Speaker 2:And then I get the joke and again she's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:And she went and told the president of the label that. I told her To suck my dick, so they basically Shelf me after that.
Speaker 2:I said, damn Like they signed you and then Whatever fell, which then they went and got Blueface, and then they, and then they kinda like oh, I don't really know Like. Yeah, no, I'll be. I'll be paying attention To like labels and shit. Like that, so I'll just be like Paying attention to like moves and what they do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't really. I don't really know about what they was doing With other people, like it was more so like how I got signed up there. D1 had will. The rapper from dc yeah, and he had a crazy song called pull up high about. This. Shit was going crazy, so shorty. I pulled up. No nigga will the rapper he's a rapper yeah, so I pulled up with him. I was just coming. I'm going to dc I mean not going to dc.
Speaker 1:I'm going to new york and fuck with them. You feel me go to the label and shit. And they seen me and they thought I had made the song like because you know, like, like bro, like he like that's my brother, like, but he like from the trenches, like so it's like he more, so he still got that look yeah, so it's like I come in tall light skin.
Speaker 1:They might thinking, oh damn, he, that's the rapper, that's the one. No, but that's it. But so that once they seen me they want to sign me too.
Speaker 2:For for real.
Speaker 1:Damn. So they played a song that we had and was like oh, we want to sign him too for real. So that's really how I got this shit, but I don't even know about nobody else that they was dealing with.
Speaker 2:Hey bro, your life crazy to just do some shit. No, not for real, though it gets crazy. You feel me bro Going to the label and they just shot with my wife.
Speaker 1:RGP yeah, no cap.
Speaker 2:Ain't that crazy, bro.
Speaker 3:That's a crazy come up though.
Speaker 1:But I ain't gonna lie. I've been dealing with that type of shit my whole life, though, like just going in rooms and like your presence being noticed and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just that. What you will go in the room and do what you not even going in there To do People is like Working to do you know what. I'm saying Hell yeah, so. Nah man, we gotta Nah man pay attention to.
Speaker 1:But you can't take advantage of it, neither like you can't take it for granted.
Speaker 2:Nah, hell no.
Speaker 1:You still gotta work Just as hard as them people. Yeah, nah, hell yeah Like that's like a nigga with natural athletic ability you still?
Speaker 2:gotta work just as hard as the nigga who been grinding shooting a thousand shots, yeah right so it's like you still gotta put that work in but with the ups and downs in the game, like so, like you like it being independent or being assigned to a major label. Better which one would you would? You say is is better for your system.
Speaker 1:For my system it really like I could do either or. But like I would say like each got their perks. Like if you were to label, it's like you, they gonna have the money. Like they gonna have the back end to push you. There's some shame behind you, but you gotta listen to they creative and it's like sometimes it might not be what you want to do for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't get with that right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me, and that's what really was fucking me up, because it's like I'm like bro, you want me to do all these shits. I always wrote my own music since I was a kid. So it's like you want me to go get with a writer and you got me saying some whole left shit that I wouldn't even say for real but they got the money to push it and they are making a record, but it's not authentic.
Speaker 1:But when you buy it yourself, you got to put all your money behind it. So if you ain't got the money to do it, then you're fucked. Because them labels is putting hundreds of thousands of dollars just in radio. Yeah, yeah, if you sit there and watch the breakdown of what they're doing. They talk about some. Oh yeah, we about to put 300,000 in radio. Bitch, give me $300,000 and I'm about to flood the streets. I ain't going to need y'all for real.
Speaker 3:That's just how I be thinking.
Speaker 2:That's how we be looking at it.
Speaker 3:That's how we look at it. But for real, you really need that money for you to pilot and go where you need to go at. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You might need money for features. You might need money for media.
Speaker 3:You need money for media, you need money for radio Studio time.
Speaker 1:You need money for studio time, travel, travel you need money for everything.
Speaker 3:Everything To live, breathe oh my goodness, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:The music business.
Speaker 3:You definitely got to have that paper. Yeah, the music business is a gift and a curse.
Speaker 1:Niggas don't be understanding they be like yo. Why you ain't drop, why you ain beats that this nigga's trying to hit me on the head for 5 000, for the exclusive rights, for the beat you want me for that all right everything costs as long as you get that label stamp.
Speaker 3:Everybody think you, you rich I heard you say you've been writing music since a kid not writing, but like I ain't like, music was really something making your own music?
Speaker 1:yeah, my, brother yeah, my brother, he like used to like rapping and that, that past and shit. So motherfucking. I used to just rap with him, but I just knew I knew how to do it.
Speaker 3:He was one of your influences doing rap. It was just me and him together.
Speaker 1:He was only a year older than me for real, so it's like you know same mother. So it's like shit. That's how my brother was.
Speaker 3:And it's like he rapping.
Speaker 1:Well, he not, he wasn't even rapping Like, he just knew how to. He was good at shit Like that nigga walk around in a circle in a studio while the beat playing, and then I'm sitting there trying to write. He is walking that bitch and rap it off the head, he remembering everything in his mind and it's just like damn. So I'm trying to keep up with him the whole time, and that's what really made me just get on some bullshit.
Speaker 2:Nice. That's dope, though, because, like so, big Bro rapping, you following at the helm, you down there, just as good, and then it happened for you. That don't normally happen like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that was like kind of the conflict of interest, because like we was doing it together and then just like image-wise and all that, niggas gravitated towards me and grabbed me, but it's like it never brung. No conflict between me and bro, but it was more so like just like it'd be kind of hard trying to do my own thing to put niggas on, and but then niggas expected me to stake with the foundation that we had and I'm like shit if I'm getting an opportunity to do it for us you feel me, then it.
Speaker 1:It'll be better for us if if it's not going how we planned it to go, but long live him man. He just passed December 23rd 2023 for real got killed. We was leaving the party and shit, yeah, that shit up.
Speaker 3:Man like that's like I done seen pass, I done that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit fucked up. Man Like that's like. I done seen niggas pass. I done seen niggas get killed. I done seen everything. But seeing my brother on that ground, like my blood brother who is he's holding me as a baby on the ground, dead Like that, fucked my mind up a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Bro, the same here. I seen my brother die too bro. Yeah, that shit ever die too bro. Yeah, same here.
Speaker 2:That's a that's a like a life-changing moment it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think about that every day, literally. It can't, it'll never leave your mind. It's something you're gonna keep thinking about, like I.
Speaker 1:I it's just something you keep thinking about yeah, it's like you guys, not you can't erase it, I mean it just it just makes you who you is, though help you move a little differently stronger militant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean definitely make you think oh yeah, um, wow. So how about? How about? After the after, uh, living after that, oh, shit.
Speaker 1:I mean it's I go through. I went through phases like, yeah, it's going on like almost two years now. So it's like motherfucking, drinking hard, drugging hard you feel me, you just trying to get your mind off the shit, fall back from the music you trying not to you feel me relapse and do some old shit that you would have did. But then you sitting there thinking about, damn, like what he would have did for me or what he expect from me.
Speaker 1:And it's just. I mean it's just a lot of thoughts and shit, but it come with maturing, though. I got four kids bro, so it's like can't really just jump out there and risk everything, because it's like damn what the fuck my kids going to do for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're not a kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then he got kids, so it's like. I'm not good to nobody If I'm locked up or dead, so it's just you thinking about that Too, so it's like shit. So it's just like you know, you just gotta get back Behind the steering wheel.
Speaker 2:And go the right way. That's all I be thinking but after that I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1:It was hard, but it's just like Having the right people In your corner or separating yourself from the people who ain't right for you type shit.
Speaker 2:Right, and sometimes life just get out of control. You just got to take control. You know what I'm saying Definitely and make all the decisions for yourself. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes we just let things go or let things fall in the hands of you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It'd have been a million If I was on like Lord Dirk status or Drake status. It'd have been a Lord Dirk status or Drake status and a million motherfuckers Talking about Spin, spin, go, do this, go, do that.
Speaker 2:Ain't nobody about to?
Speaker 1:Ain't nobody about to Come to your funeral?
Speaker 2:Ain't nobody about to Take care of the kids? Nothing.
Speaker 1:You can't think about that type of shit.
Speaker 2:You gotta think about what's best for you For real.
Speaker 1:And at the end Like what the fuck? So and so Will want to do what you will want you to do for them yeah, because they don't know me man, go ahead, go get rich do something just look at me, look out for my folks, look out for your focus that do that take one wrong move to change everything gosh a two-second move you take one right move to change everything and wait
Speaker 2:when you bless the light, had an opportunity to be signed or to showcase your talent in front of the world. Like, go ahead, man, take them opportunities. You know what I'm saying. And every type of way we're gonna put the. We're gonna put the energy, we're gonna put the positive energy into this thing. I'm saying and and move like that and see what come up under that because, like, we've been living like wrong for so long god damn. Let's see what right feels like let's do something.
Speaker 1:Let's see what right feels like yeah, let's do something different.
Speaker 3:Let's see what right feels. Like you got to be able to live through these moments. Like I want to know, all right, so what I meant by how I was living after that. Like, what's your creative process now? Are you working? Are you making music right now? Are you getting back to it now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been making a lot of music, but it's just like it be kind of you feel me like no disrespect to Rod Wave because I love his music but I don't want to be in there on no like nigga sad while I'm in that bitch.
Speaker 1:I be trying to turn him up. I be trying to. I be thinking I think more so future, like I think when I'm in the studio I be like boom, this will get the club going or this will get them in their feelings. It depends on my mood, but I've definitely been recording like heavy, heavy, heavy. I just don't be trying to record sad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I know it's a lot of people that can relate to that shit, but I don't want my music to be based on that shit.
Speaker 3:Do you got one of those though, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I got too control my feelings.
Speaker 2:He like I'm just trying to stop making it so to like, so to like, get you into, like the different mindset, the make different type of music, what you think that is like or what, or what you think the start of that would be, you feel me, the vibes, the vibes, the environment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I need. I need good studio good liquor, bad bitches.
Speaker 2:Good liquor, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Bad bitches. I don't got to be fucking with none of them.
Speaker 2:Just the energy, just the way they you can hear the conversation. Yeah, the conversation.
Speaker 1:When I'm in a booth and I'm looking and I see them heads rocking and them start shaking their ass and shit. Then it's just like oh yeah, I know, I got one. Right you feel me I need they because it's like they not biased.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You feel me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Their body's going to show it, just like if you fucking a bitch, their body's going to show if you like it, if they like it or not.
Speaker 2:No, for sure. So it's like if they like the music.
Speaker 1:They're going to be in there rocking. They might stand up, start dancing. You feel me, you need that.
Speaker 3:That's also how you pick your producers for your music too, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, shit up for real, because these other niggas coming crazy, but I know that they are. They are, you know, working nigga with the price, because they know I'm independent, they independent, be friends yeah, these other niggas gonna wax you for real.
Speaker 1:So I'm trying to tell them like man, I'm trying to go this way, I'm trying to go this way and don't send me no pack. That's just going to cater to how you think I'm a sound. Yeah, go ahead, send me variety. Whereas I could be like damn, I'm about to go whole left field. I got this one song. It sound like Pharrell made the beat. I'm like yes, I needed that.
Speaker 2:Being out here with all these, everybody, the creatives that be out here. It's like you could go in this room and you never know who going to be in there, what type of producer going to be in there. I just feel like we in the land of creation Black people too, atlanta, yeah, atlanta, be in there. So it's like I just felt like we in atlanta creation, uh, black people, atlanta, yeah, atlanta, yeah bro, I didn't walk in the room I didn't want with my, with my homeboy.
Speaker 1:Pirate man shout out pirates. We went to high school together. He's one of the greatest producers, but he done took me in a room metro sitting there, I'm like metro brought me in the room with south side, south side. So he said, hey, I fuck with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You fuck with me.
Speaker 3:He gave me a pack, Like 20 packs that was.
Speaker 1:Southside man I'm about to go. Huh, Take this 20 pack. Let me know what you fuck with.
Speaker 3:That's fire. He got him. He got thousands of beats.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Take a 20. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:My nigga Go Grizz. He's still going crazy, Like all them niggas, still going crazy, but Go Grizz.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Man Go Grizz. I fuck with him Every time he see me. What's up he play on the bottom. I say y'all too dude.
Speaker 2:Too, he be doing that type of shit Go Grizz.
Speaker 1:he tough as a bitch. My nigga Cheese Like you'll be around Hella niggas. But it's just like you gotta tell them like hey, bitch, I'm independent, cause if they know you with a label.
Speaker 2:No disrespect to producers.
Speaker 1:But if they know you with a label and you got a budget. Like you might talk To them personally, like man, just Just give me a band. They talk to them labels. I need a 20 ball For the beat. Nah, for real, that's the game. That's the game and I need percentage too. It's the game they waxing their ass. I'm like damn, but yeah Gotta get the label.
Speaker 2:I tell a nigga if I sign with a label.
Speaker 1:I tell him man, I'm with a label, bro, Tell him this and give me this off of that, Tell him 50, matter of fact.
Speaker 2:Tell him 50.
Speaker 1:Give me 10. You keep 40. Fuck it. Yeah, might as well just give me that shit up front.
Speaker 2:So you see, like I look at it, like when you create and write, you never know when the hit gonna be a hit and you never know who gonna be in the room or how you gonna create it. So that's why I just always encourage the artist to always create, always create, always keep working, always get in the moods, Always find yourself in those environments where there's work involved and you producing and getting working, always get in the moods, always find yourself in those environments where is work involved and you producing and getting results yeah, 70 percent of the time the artist ain't gonna like their hit yeah, they're not gonna like it.
Speaker 1:Everybody else around them gonna have to tell them like that yeah, and then they be like are you sure? And drop like the how to rob shit. That's my biggest song ever I didn't want to drop that shit didn't want to do.
Speaker 3:I didn't want to drop that you know, that's the one I was talking about too.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real, I didn't want to do that well I wanted to do it but it was more so, me and my homeboy playing around in the studio, we in la pyrex in there, who I was talking about, he put a beat on and and, bro, like man, you should just do because, like 51, like one of my all-time goats. He's's like man you should do a Hotter Rob.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we just in there, he in the booth with me, he's scrolling through academics. We just picking rappers off academics and making bars for him. We going back to back. He damn near giving me every bar I'm going oh, come on, we didn't say this.
Speaker 2:We didn't say that are real talk, telling you that's every I'm talking about every last label that shit cause problems, though that was like good, but it caused problems, yeah because it's talking about it.
Speaker 1:The type of song. It was the type of song it was, and it's like they wasn't our generation our generation. They don't they don't know the history and they don't know, like the 50 cent the how to ride.
Speaker 3:So it's like you might like take offense to it off and like they might think, like oh, nigga, ooh, crash out.
Speaker 1:And it's like, bro, a lot of them niggas knew me already. Yeah, and we done had conversations Right right, right, so it's like for you to take that personally is to show your character for real.
Speaker 2:And if you want to take it anywhere else we can do that. But who really you to do it?
Speaker 1:but that's how I know up north.
Speaker 2:Let me know I'm popping no, that let me know.
Speaker 1:That's how I know up north is different, because the only who really showed love about the was oozing. Yeah man, amina, shout out. Amina, my manager, and she um, with uzi heavy. She took me to one of his shows. I'm standing standing there on the side he performing and shit. He look over and look back over and see me over there. After he done performing, he straight come over there.
Speaker 1:Uzi older he walk up to me and say I was going to ride a little Uzi with a big pump. I was going to ride a little pump with a big Uzi and I just dabbed my butt. Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:That's her brother, man.
Speaker 3:Look, I've been around you a few times, right? Mookie Moop, yeah, yeah, mookie's long-time Shout out. Mookie Moop man, we was down here.
Speaker 1:That shit hurt me. I flew to. I mean, I went to. Philly did all the music and shit. I hit him like where were you at Pulled up in the studio we made music? He made sure I was straight down there moving correct.
Speaker 3:Moot wanted on, yeah, Moot wanted on man we came down here we was working on. We was working. I had the opportunity to watch you and Mookie Moot shoot a video. It was a good experience just to watch how the industry worked for real for real, like how to, how it go, like with the with the videos with the the house, the smoke, the yeah everything.
Speaker 1:They was having trouble with the smoke. Yeah, they was playing with the smoke, yeah it was smoking there, it was 8k oh they were, they were props.
Speaker 2:They were props, whoever? Listening time and lighting.
Speaker 1:You know how it go yeah it was until you were on set. Yeah, but that's how I beat up like it. Uh, you'll link up on some music and then, if y'all just do the same time y'all link up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, after that every real nigga that sit on that couch. They in my phone I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just fuck with you. They fuck with you. Yeah, they call out.
Speaker 3:They can feel the vibe bro.
Speaker 2:I'd be like I interview these guys and we have long-term relationships.
Speaker 3:It should be crazy what y'all got going on, who y'all need.
Speaker 1:Who y'all need me to reach out to? What can I do? What? I could do for y'all Just being in this light, or like just me.
Speaker 3:All love.
Speaker 2:Like this being my job, this the dream job. Yeah, I couldn't be doing nothing better with myself, bro. Yeah, I feel you, you feel me, I'm in the pocket.
Speaker 1:That's how I be feeling. I'm friend, she was like you you went to work today, so I ain't got no job. I ain't never had one of them money. I'm just like doing what the I want to do. That's just how it is, with that being said how you stay motivated, though right now man, I stay motivated just being around. I would say family, but a lot of times family don't be Family, but a lot of times family don't be like enough, Like because family, they your bloodline.
Speaker 2:But like it's just like they get used to your lifestyle. Yeah, it's just like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, there you go they don't really expect shit from me, though, because they don't, but it's just like no, they expect you to be you.
Speaker 2:They don't expect you to be you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they. It be my niggas that be motivating me when I go back to Baltimore and shit, and I go to the studio, shout out Rab to Compound Studios, best studio in Baltimore. That been my brother for a long time and he been with me since the start.
Speaker 1:He was a part of D1. Right and he got a studio there and he'll just let me go in there, motherfucker, rock out, and I invite all my niggas and just the conversations that be taking place. It be like I got to get these niggas out of here. So that's the motivation. Like man, let me like, damn like, because it's a fucked up feeling when you know, like you, away from this shit, but you need to get other niggas away from this shit. That was sleeping on them floors with you for real life. We sleep on the same floor. We was walking to the store together in the fucking snow. We was walking to the store together In the fucking snow Snow to our knees. We just trying to. We scraping up change, trying to get a black and mild Cause it's cold as a bitch. We been trying to smoke. Like it's just like, damn, like I gotta get these niggas out of here. That be the motivation for me.
Speaker 2:Bro, we be on, we be having the same thoughts, cause it be like Like we be doing what we be doing and we'll meet like a person like you and then our friends, but we'd be like you, feel me, we, we like to see that they look at us for it down. I mean like leave, and I mean so?
Speaker 1:we're trying to look at me for we just be trying to push you in them. You know what I mean. So we just be trying to push. Don't look at me for it. We just be trying to push harder, though Don't look at me for it. I'm going to get there and you're going to see it, but just don't look to me.
Speaker 2:But like no, not on that, but Philly don't have shit bro.
Speaker 1:We don't have shit, we don't got too much to look for man who you know from Baltimore, that's big.
Speaker 3:There we go, hold on.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about who's a major artist from Baltimore.
Speaker 3:He about to speed pass my question. I was about to say you don't know nobody, you don't Look. Do you think Baltimore get enough?
Speaker 2:credit for their artists.
Speaker 1:All right, lomo the singer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's a girl singer.
Speaker 3:You think y'all get enough credit though Y? Y'all get enough credit, though Y'all do have artists, but do you think y'all get enough credit? Y'all? Lineup was crazy, bro.
Speaker 2:Y'all got meek midway Y'all got meek. Midway Y'all got artists. Y'all just don't get credit, bro. Yeah, I know what you mean, I see what you mean.
Speaker 1:Y'all got niggas to be like this. Way it work, neo. Ain't that nigga from Mario? Mario, mario, y'all don't even know Mario from Baltimore.
Speaker 3:No, we don't. Ot used to bring him to Philly. We talk about that For real, yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that nigga from Baltimore, ot used to bring that nigga to South Philly. We talk about him.
Speaker 2:Omar Teagle brought that nigga to 24th.
Speaker 3:Street, I else down Baltimore. Were you talking about what were?
Speaker 2:you talking about All the niggas that's on the wire and all that yeah what were you? Talking about Like Snoop, like Snoop and it's just like All right. No, because they put DMV together, that's what they tend to do.
Speaker 3:I know y'all separate y'all stuff, y'all don't play that.
Speaker 2:I know that you know what I'm saying, but y'all got a few, it's just shine a light on them.
Speaker 3:Shine a light on somebody right now.
Speaker 1:We don't got nobody that's on a major platform. Who?
Speaker 2:popping down there right now, shorty, shorty Tate Coldang Wild Da Rapper.
Speaker 1:Young Crazy. We got Tate Young Crazy from Virginia.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, that's my brother, that's my brother, he's the hardest nigga out of Virginia.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck. It's the biggest rapper out there. That nigga is the hardest nigga from Virginia, but we got motherfucking YG Tech.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:That nigga super hard.
Speaker 3:Hard.
Speaker 1:We got Long Live Scooter. Long Live G-Rock. Them niggas was the ones that gave us a platform. We got Skola. He's wide behind Skola.
Speaker 3:That's my school. We got OTR.
Speaker 1:Chaz. That's my doggy. He's tough though, but I'm not just naming niggas, I'm cool with it. I'm naming niggas.
Speaker 2:You're naming niggas. That's popping, that's playing that work.
Speaker 1:You feel me I'm motherfucking.
Speaker 3:Shout out to them too, me of course.
Speaker 2:No, I'm tapping into these niggas?
Speaker 1:Yeah, slowed down. Um man, who else in the city but the young um?
Speaker 3:see most of them names. You guys said I know I know them.
Speaker 2:Why'd you check? He on fire?
Speaker 3:I know why'd you check I don't know about that. He on fire, know about him bro, yes, that yeah he gone, but that thing has been happening for so long and they don't even be knowing like bro been putting work in. That's the definition now here I go. I'm going back to what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Y'all don't get enough credit, bro.
Speaker 3:Y'all got some rappers, Nigga say.
Speaker 1:I don't do no dick riding, but I give credit where it's due and I don't give a fuck about the dick riding shit, bro. He's one of them niggas where you could say that's a nigga businessman, yeah, and his his street credibility and he's a great rapper, so it's like incredible yeah it's like boom I gotta tell you, I could just tell about how you could tell what he's talking and how you're giving it up.
Speaker 3:If you're not that kind of person, you can't talk like that 90 day run.
Speaker 2:You can't even talk like that. You feel me bro you know what I'm saying turn his life around.
Speaker 3:but but Tate though, Can he talk like Tate.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say YG, Tech and Tate is the two. That I would say is what a Baltimore nigga should aspire to be in me. I'm not trying to include myself. I like that though, because I done, made it out of there.
Speaker 3:I like that though. I like that, though, because you showing love, but you putting yourself down, yeah them niggas, but you're showing love too, so that's dope. I can respect that. Yeah them niggas.
Speaker 2:Respect that.
Speaker 3:Well, I was going to say, like I was saying, I think y'all got artists. Y'all just need the recognition, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we starting to get that shit man.
Speaker 2:And Skola, though what you're doing right now sean pouring a light on everybody everybody when you got the light. That's what we got to do. People, people be having this, this thing in their head where they don't want to show love, or they think that because you show them love is them they like. No, yeah, I'm that. I'm that to the point, right little reggie, lord reggie.
Speaker 1:We got to shout out a little reggie, he's not a rapper, he's a streamer. But he just got on with.
Speaker 2:Kai and them. You know, kai, bro Reggie.
Speaker 1:Lil Reggie Niggas think he Lil Rodney or something, because he did that little that interview. I mean not the interview, that skit or whatever, but he's one of the best comedians from the city. But Kai motherfucking seen him. Kai's seen him to the crib out the A yeah, and he got the crib with the other streamers, the little Clover boys and that nigga been putting on for the city super crazy. So Reggie too, he one of them ones, yeah, but that's fire, bro, that's super fire I ain't gonna front.
Speaker 2:That's why, when you shine in the light and give, and it's just more blessings come to you.
Speaker 1:You know what I because that's the type of I'm is. I don't even need you to shine no light on me, I'm gonna make my own. But yeah, it's just like I do it, because why not?
Speaker 2:I ain't no hater, do what you do bro, you know how hard it is to make it out the east coast no, it's super hard to people I had to, I had to drop everything, be so surprised about what they'd be.
Speaker 1:Like bro, like damn you. It's from bartlemore but you moved to atlanta and then you moved to Houston. I don't mind dropping everything and going. I find a way when I'm there. That's hard to do bro yeah niggas be scared to do it East.
Speaker 3:Coast guys. They don't do that Because they're not themselves man, I'm good, though, no we don't do that.
Speaker 2:You gotta be able to go wherever, drop everything and move. I'm not can play bro, that's how you die. No, I ain't gonna front you'd be stuck and you moving. There is a whole new challenge like you shake shit up like that it's a whole personal bro, like you can relate to me if I give you the time to get to know me for real.
Speaker 1:So it's like I'm the type of nigga bro I go to the bar by myself I like to go to the bar by myself, drink, just chill, sit at the bar, see what what conversations come past. Next thing you know you made friends not friends associates, but then they become. Next thing you know you made friends Damn, not friends associates, but then they become friends.
Speaker 2:Next, thing you know you calling, they phone.
Speaker 1:What you doing today, what's?
Speaker 3:going on Popping out Like shit.
Speaker 1:all right, I'm coming with y'all.
Speaker 3:Nah, real talk.
Speaker 1:Then you in a whole nother state doing a whole different thing.
Speaker 3:You don't even gotta Like. When did you get like?
Speaker 1:that my mother the same way as me, man, my mother, get up and go my mother from New York. Like my mother, was from the Bronx. But she motherfucking met my father in Baltimore. Yeah, stay there, motherfucking. I moved to Atlanta. She moved to Atlanta. She left Atlanta, she moved to Raleigh.
Speaker 2:She left Raleigh moved to Charlotte. I'm like, damn, we on the same tight time. That's the only way you can grow when you challenge yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I put myself in them positions. I want to see what's about to happen.
Speaker 2:Ain't no progress without struggle.
Speaker 1:And then it's like I ain't scared of no nigga, I ain't scared of what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:So it's like what the hell.
Speaker 1:And I ain't no mom, the only reason you have a problem with me is if you know me or you got a real problem.
Speaker 2:And growing up in the environments we grew up in and surviving in them. We could live anywhere. Oh my God, I'd be looking at this shit like this, this shit like this.
Speaker 1:I'd be like man. This shit be crazy man. I used to go outside like this what the fuck are these niggas about? Out of Baltimore, now right you down in Texas, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, just being in Baltimore, growing up from Baltimore, I know you still go back and you get your motivation from the friends and the people, that's, from the community. What kind of impact you trying to leave with Baltimore?
Speaker 1:Like how you want Baltimore to look at Izzy. You know, honestly, I never thought about how I want Baltimore to look at me.
Speaker 3:Because it's just like Because you work and stuff.
Speaker 1:No, because it's just like it kind of sounds fucked up to say but it's like it's the people you impact. Like fuck the city. Like like it's the people you impact. Like, fuck the city. Like it's the people you impact because it's like anybody that anybody that uh done been around.
Speaker 1:I left an imprint on where is it like? Oh, he's a real one, like, but the majority of the people where you would say the city, they don't know you for real, so they're going to think what they want to think and, whatever you do, probably ain't even enough like Like I could like bro niggas killed Scooter. Bro, that was our biggest rapper, bro, you know he was coming from a charity event.
Speaker 1:This nigga was leaving a basketball charity event and niggas killed you. So it's like do I give a fuck about what Baltimore think about me or who I touch?
Speaker 2:We just had one One of them. Situations are so.
Speaker 1:It's who the fuck I touch bro, it's sad.
Speaker 2:So it is who you touch, it don't matter where they at.
Speaker 1:I could touch as many people as I want in this city and that's who I care about. I don't really care about what the mass think, because they don't know me. Right, right, right, and you can hear something and they'll probably run with that before they run with the good.
Speaker 1:So you, you grounded, and, and, and probably the older guys, because that's what I grew up with, my older guys keep me grounded and they make sure they look at me and tell me I don't give a what who you think you is, I'm not letting you do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's like I gotta respect this. Forget where I'm from. It's about being who I am.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying it's forget where you're from, because it's like you could be from one side of baltimoreiggas. Say that you ain't like that. Yeah, so it's like even niggas in the city, don't even fuck with you.
Speaker 1:So it's like, bro, why should I care about what the fuck you think, or you think, or you think it's about character and who I touch and who I make this shit for, because we gonna be thinking about oh we ain't do bye today, man what the fuck happened to Baltimore? Who gives a fuck my peoples is gone, yeah. You ready Baltimore made me who I was, but it won't define who I become.
Speaker 3:You don't know about this part, but we about to tell you man, wait, we'll break it down for them real quick, alright we gonna play a, a quick game called Fast Track.
Speaker 2:It's where I name two things and you just pick one or the other, all right, all right, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3:All right, break it down all the way though that's just fast track all right, but yeah, so we're just going.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say two things. You pick one or the other. It's sweet, uh, baltimore, so let's go the wire bmf.
Speaker 1:The why or a BMF. I got a real homeboy. That's real BMF. But I would say the why Just because you talking about TV shows, yeah, oh, you asking which TV show I like more, yeah, the why, because I know Well the why. It's a representation of Baltimore. It's not all the way correct, it kind of dumbed down, but it's real shit. That's going on. Okay, bmf, I don't know how true the story is. Alright, you said you got a homie in BMF though. Yeah, hell yeah, my nigga Calico. Shout out to Calico.
Speaker 2:Oh, Calico.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my brother man, that's your brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tell yeah.
Speaker 1:I tell them to come up here, yeah.
Speaker 2:I bet I was just with him yesterday.
Speaker 3:This boy crazy. He booking shows in the middle of a show, all right.
Speaker 2:State property or major figures.
Speaker 1:I never even seen major figures bro State property yeah. What's your best hand Damn.
Speaker 3:Cleon the comedian, or Donna Jess Hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Jess Hilarious. You said Cleon or Jess.
Speaker 2:Over this way.
Speaker 1:You said Cleon or Jess yeah, cleon or.
Speaker 3:Jess Cleon a comedian, or Jess Hilarious.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have to Like I love Jess but I'm gonna have to say Cleon, he was the originator Of this shit. Like he was Probably the first comedian In the city that niggas actually laughed at and went to go look at his shit and all that. Like Like niggas was making whole sayings, like niggas had Baltimore slang off of Cleon. Like calling niggas Cleon-ass niggas Like you a Cleon-ass nigga Like bluffing.
Speaker 3:Damn, because he was joking and shit. Shut up, cleon, my boy.
Speaker 1:So nigga like nigga, cleon Like niggas had it Okay, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2:That's fine. Tate, tate. Nah, I'm just saying that, no, like Tate better Shorty.
Speaker 1:He did his shit For the city and he still putting on. But you gotta do the history Right. Tate's first tour.
Speaker 2:Shorty. He brought Shorty Shorty in and with him Like that's his folk.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know you gotta give credit To. It's like Same motherfucking.
Speaker 2:He the one.
Speaker 1:Like the you feel me.
Speaker 2:I get it, I get it Shorty definitely did some shit for the city and he exceeded to go.
Speaker 1:Yo was the only nigga in Baltimore with a platinum record.
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