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STILL GOT THE PEN | FEAT. SEAN GARRETT | RTM PODCAST | SZN 3 EP 9
When Sean Garrett steps into a room, the air shifts. Known throughout the industry as "The Pen," Garrett holds the distinction as Billboard's fastest hitmaker in history, accumulating more #1 singles in a shorter timespan than anyone else. His fingerprints are on some of the most iconic songs of our generation – the anthems you've cried to, the tracks you've screamed along with in your car, the soundtracks to countless memories.
During this raw, unfiltered conversation, Garrett opens up about the duality of his musical journey. Despite crafting hits for superstars like Beyoncé, Usher, Nicki Minaj, and Ludacris, he reveals the persistent undercurrent of industry hate he's faced throughout his career. "They've been hating on me my whole career," he admits, speaking to the competitive nature of the music business that often tries to diminish even its most successful contributors. Yet that same competitive spirit fuels his excellence – as evidenced by his memorable (and somewhat controversial) Verzuz battle with fellow hitmaker The-Dream.
The conversation takes us around the world, from Atlanta's profound influence on music culture to Garrett's recent musical expeditions across Africa and South Korea. He shares his philosophy on staying relevant: "Being current is just being yourself really. A lot of times, people don't know themselves, and not knowing yourself can date your ass." This authenticity has kept him at the forefront of sound evolution for decades. As we wrap up, Garrett exclusively announces his upcoming single "Girlfriend Me" featuring Quavo and Plies, proving once again that his ability to create and collaborate across genres remains unmatched.
Whether you're an aspiring artist, a music industry professional, or simply a fan of the songs that define our culture, this episode offers a masterclass in resilience, creativity, and staying true to yourself. Share, subscribe, and join the conversation – because as Garrett demonstrates, real recognizes real.
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Speaker 2:It's White Boy D2A. I'm Roland and we just wrapped up the craziest, craziest interview. Sam, hold me down for the light skin niggas. Yeah, yeah, I Hold me down for the light skin niggas. And a certain thing, is a certain blame, is a certain package y'all trying to be in.
Speaker 3:I might have to do certain little things that might get me to trust them, but if this is really the most podcast, Keep it coming.
Speaker 2:If you don't, you're a motherfucking a**. Why? Because we're afraid Really the most podcast.
Speaker 3:Oh man, it's the Rilla the Most podcast. I'm Rilla, I'm White Boy D2A, and you know we got a special guest in the building today, uh-huh. This is not just any guest, though, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:This is somebody like that. Really, really, man put some respect on this man's name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this man has shaped this generation of sound in an R&B way, in a hip-hop way, and just some of the anthems that's known all over the radio.
Speaker 3:If you cried to a song, you drove in the car singing your heart out Uh-huh, Uh-huh. Nine times out of ten it was his song. That's just the facts.
Speaker 2:That's a big fact.
Speaker 3:That's a big fact, Like Day-Z called him the pen.
Speaker 2:Bro, he's the pen, like he the pen. Come on, man. This the real of the most podcast.
Speaker 3:Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment. If you don't, you a muff. I hate it. And why? Because it's free. It's fucking free, bro, it's free. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:We got Sean Garrett in the building today. The Sean Garrett in the building y'all the pin, the pin.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So how you feeling today? I feel well, man. I feel great man. I'm sitting next to the legend, you know what I'm. Come on, man, come on.
Speaker 3:How you feeling today, sean, how you feeling. Life is great, man, life is great.
Speaker 1:Extremely blessed man, just you know, definitely want to come out and highlight you guys.
Speaker 2:Man Appreciate you, sean, highly appreciate you Seriously.
Speaker 1:You know? Just let them know, I be in the hood. Yeah, and I don't be in the hood.
Speaker 3:Right right, right right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you sitting down with us.
Speaker 3:You definitely in the hood, my man, you in the hood right now, you know what I'm saying. You with the culture, you letting them know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we letting them know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah man. No man. So you know man. You know you just being in charge of a lot of great music that this generation has been here to witness, man, and you know you just part of and just being able to pin and construct and move around and do what you do the best. How'd that feel, man?
Speaker 1:Like how'd that feel? I mean at this point, man, you know it's become. You know, and not to sound like facetious or nothing like that, but it's just become a natural thing. You know what I'm saying. I've been doing this shit since I was a kid and you know. The good thing about life is that you know, you grow, you build, you learn you earn. You know what I'm saying and it's never, I think, sometimes at this place in my life I only hear two sides of life the struggle and great.
Speaker 2:Right, Okay.
Speaker 1:Meaning like people are rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, and unfortunately.
Speaker 1:you know, my goal was to see people meet in the middle. Okay, so, you know, my journey is still up right, right. So I'm just trying to blend the world world, you know, trying to help people who are really talented, like find them, find their way yeah, and just be as supportive as I possibly can as a hit maker right at the same time, you know, as an artist, should you know, I'm gonna do me.
Speaker 1:I'm outside doing um. My new single comes out next month. I I'm out doing shows, doing tours. I just came from Africa, got some really big cool things coming about. Last year I went to Seoul Career and that was really amazing because one of the singles that I did out there for this new group, or this new group, it's just not coming out next week. Okay and um still working yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, I like to talk about everything that I'm doing, but sometimes shit resonates, sometimes don't, in reference to like where everybody is right right, I do music in Seoul, Korea, and I live in America.
Speaker 1:I do music in Africa and I'm in America. I try to do as best as I can in America to keep on making you know, trying to change things and stuff like that. So it's just like, man, it's a great. It's just a great challenge, because everything doesn't make, everything is not always always gonna make sense when you do it yeah it's just a journey right
Speaker 3:you know, yeah, with billboard calling you the fastest hit maker, is that a challenge?
Speaker 1:yeah, the fastest, yeah, I had the most number ones in the shortest period of time, in the shortest period of time in billboard history, for real. Yeah, I try to talk to these people.
Speaker 1:Come on, man, we talking to the little corners on the blocks right now I'm letting you know yeah, man, it's been a journey man, yeah, I really can't. Man, I'm very proud, I'm very proud. Thank you, bless. And I just want to be an example to people that, like you know, if you work hard, you stay focused, you stop looking at the things that didn't happen. You know, in my conversations with people these days, I just try to give as much information as I feel like that can help people. And I feel like sometimes people pay too much attention to like what didn't happen, what hurt you, what I could have did. You know what I mean? Yeah, or this person didn't do this. It's like I look for the moments that it's like this shit ain't working, this ain't where I need to be. Well, I won't say this ain't working, but I will look at a situation and I'll be. If this is not where I'm supposed to be, then I just have to patiently, respectfully, say let me, let me regroup.
Speaker 1:And I think sometimes people don't hold themselves accountable. Right. You know holding yourself accountable is just as it's just as important as making it or just as important as scoring.
Speaker 2:I think that's important. I think that's important. I think that's important. So you being like a musical genius, safe to say, and you working with the likes of a Beyonce, the likes of a Nicki Minaj, the likes of a Ludacris, what give you that balance? You know what I mean, from the R&B to the hip-hop.
Speaker 1:I would say them Yeahhop. I would say them. Yeah, I would say them. I would say my way I was raised. I would say the way I grew up, my household, you know, I feel like you know, when you get around people, two things gonna happen yeah either y'all gonna get along or you're not. Either you gonna learn, learn something or you're not.
Speaker 1:Uh, who you are will come out right right when you get around great people, it becomes energetic, it becomes fun. You know, I mean when you're, you know when you know I'm from the jungle. But when I get around people from the jungle, shit can turn into the jungle. Yeah, but when I be around people who have great personality, or people that's excited about the same thing I'm excited about, then I tend to lighten up a little bit right, get excited, smile a little more and get into what it is I like to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as I tapped in on that verse, bro, I didn't even know, I'm telling you, you made me do my research. I did my homework. I said he really the pen. He wrote everything.
Speaker 2:Everything.
Speaker 3:Everything. So when he, on that verse, is popping his shit the way he popping it, it was a reason behind that.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you got to let the people know how did the verses come up to you?
Speaker 3:Yo, it was funny as hell but at the same time entertaining. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It was like you was popping your shit because I would probably say that's probably the one time I ever got caught off guard.
Speaker 3:Nah, nah, nah, nah. I time I ever got caught off guard Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 1:I feel like I got caught off guard Because I really that was a tough day in reference to just like where I'm at in my normal life Okay, okay, and I just came from the dentist. My mouth was swollen.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:I had two root canals oh shit and I was asleep, I, I was sleeping. I was actually sleeping, man, my boy Bobby, one of my best friends. We went to go get lunch too, and I came. I was on the way back and I was sleeping in this Jeep and man Swizzy called me. He was like yo, nigga, we doing the motherfucking.
Speaker 3:Versus the night I'm like what. I'm ready.
Speaker 1:I mean, just imagine somebody calling you out of your Bro. I'm on pain pills for real Right. Like, I ain't even tripping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, two root canals.
Speaker 1:I was really a little bit zooted right and but I still wanted to hold him down. So I said, you know, I still had like an hour or so to get ready, man. But you know, but I do feel like you know, the truth of who I am will always prevail. You know, I'm very competitive you know, but I am a professional, so I felt that day.
Speaker 3:I looked at that shit like this rich ass nigga got all these hits. He lit right now he having fun with it and he letting y'all know he got that shit, regardless of how y'all want to hear it.
Speaker 1:Let's get it. You know, everything else was real. I was just a little bit. You know I was trying to be you. You know the one thing about this business man, it's like they judge you. It's too much you can never be perfect, you know um, but as much as given, much as we we required. So I try to be on my best yeah you know I try, I try to represent for the world as best as they can.
Speaker 2:We know that, though we know that I look at it as, like you know, we human. So, yeah, you have an incredible talent. You know what I mean, but you was at the dentist that day. You know what I'm saying, so you know things happen. We live in life.
Speaker 1:And I was at my crib, you know, comfortable, because this is when we were in. Um, this is covet. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so if it would have been a setting, of course I wouldn't show up. But but anyway, man, I just wanted to say thank you all appreciate you whomever got the gift that, what god gave us to give that day. Um, if there was nothing else that people understood about me, it's just no, I don't play around. I'm definitely definitely serious about them, motherfucking hits.
Speaker 1:And the dream got his ass smoked.
Speaker 2:This is the.
Speaker 3:Ruling the Most podcast yeah.
Speaker 1:And tell them don't come back because I got to have about 20 more. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I said, man, Looking at your discography man, I said it just won't end. And then the thing about yours is they top Billboard Top 100. There you go. You got to talk to them in that way there you go, see, they love it. There you go, they got hits.
Speaker 3:No, I make categories out here.
Speaker 1:They're not those. That shit get different.
Speaker 2:Yes, they do.
Speaker 1:But you know what, man, I have to be careful with popping my shit because I don't want to annoy.
Speaker 3:Not on the Real of the Most podcast. It's cool, I'll pop it for you. That's what we doing here.
Speaker 2:we pop shit, that's what happened yeah, man, yeah, we just be we.
Speaker 1:We be wanting to uh the guts to um, to understand you know what's funny, but the crazy is like the been hating on me my whole career, bro. I've been wanting to say that so long they've been hating on the niggas.
Speaker 3:Wild.
Speaker 1:Nah, I'm really him, Like I've been on their ass.
Speaker 2:For a long time, Bro. I came in it. You proud of me. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But, you motherfuckers know who you are. I've been whooping y'all ass and I mean this in a respectful way, like what I loved about when I came in the game it was very competitive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Today it's like Mm-hmm, whatever. It's just like anybody is writing songs, you know, and I don't mean it in a bad way, I just mean like Bro you made.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was like a reset to the whole culture, culture Facts, like we heard that song, it brought new lights and new colors.
Speaker 1:And it's not just for me To keep that level up there, but it's all of us, man.
Speaker 3:We can be nice about it bro, we can sit here and play.
Speaker 1:We can play nice, but let's just keep it above.
Speaker 2:We all want to win.
Speaker 1:We all want our music to be at the top. We all want our football team to be number one.
Speaker 1:We all want our let's keep it a bing, yep, yep, the highest level. Or wanting to be great, I'll say that so I love it and I'm very unapologetic by being great at it. Or wanting to be great, I'll say that I'll let people say what they think, but I'm going to talk my shit when it comes to the number ones. I'm going to pop my shit Because people sometimes Be really tripping when they be calling shit what it is.
Speaker 3:But you got to say something sometimes. But, sometimes you don't.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you keep working. You ain't gotta say everything all the time. I'm so thankful, man, for this journey. I gotta shout out a lot of people that inspired me. I'm very proud of Jermaine Dupri. Jermaine is like one of the. He's one of my favorite producers and the reason I like Jermaine is like one of the. He's one of my favorite producers and the reason I like Jermaine so much is like I feel like Jermaine is cocky but he not right. Right, jermaine is like really the truth confident he's. He's very confident, but he's so responsible for so much.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is he really to be, to be who he really is, because he inspires when he trying to inspire. Right, he from atlanta. Atlanta was a small, a small space right on the map, man, when he came along. You know what I'm saying, or when you know he made it way broad, all of those guys, man, it's just like when you think about so so the pioneers of like atlanta music right um dallas austin, you know, goodyody Mob, goody Mob.
Speaker 2:Babyface LA Reid, babyface LA Reid, babyface it wasn't defined.
Speaker 1:That's a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like people don't really understand how hard that is to become something when there is nothing right.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:I got to give you know, I got to give that up to Jermaine man. I love Jermaine and as long as he's continuing, the more I like him as my compadre, as somebody who I really respect and look up to. I just wanted to say that today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his resume is crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and as a guy that did so much in music, and to continue to keep going and throbbing and to make sounds new and work with the new artists is like he never stopped. You're from New York, right.
Speaker 1:Philly. You're from Philly, yeah. Oh man, man, my dad's from Philly, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we from Philly. You got some Philly. We both from Philly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, it's in there, man, it's in there man, we all over man a little sprinkle everywhere yeah, I was gonna say to you guys one thing about atlanta is we are very, very, very proud to be from atlanta, and southern people are already kind of like very nice and very like. You know we love people, we're very loving right, but we really don't around and play either. So it gets really it can go from right to left real quick. That's what people didn't know until they came to Atlanta.
Speaker 1:They'd be like oh damn, these motherfuckers, really they get wild they like that right but the reason why we are so like standing on music is because I think we have defined music in a way that made people really realize like you could really be yourself. You know, I'm very man, I'm very much myself. Yeah, you know, I've never done an interview like this, right here, right yeah, but yeah today was short on time but at the end of the day, I'm myself.
Speaker 2:You chillin'.
Speaker 1:And I think Atlanta has defined you know themselves in such a way where it's helped the other, it's helped the rest of the world feel like it's okay to be, like, be yourself, you know what I'm saying when you're not cool. You know what I'm saying Like even going all the way back when I don't know what award it actually was for the Source.
Speaker 2:Yeah, best group, best hip-hop group.
Speaker 1:And Stax said like Source. Yeah, it was the Source Awards. Right, stax was like Atlanta got the South got something to say.
Speaker 1:He wasn't just talking about Atlanta, but he was talking about Texas, he was talking about Mississippi, he was talking about a lot of these people that never got a chance to even open their mouth. Man, you know what I'm saying, and be credible, right. It's fucked up to not be credible, right. Like what does that feel like? Right? So that makes you really proud. You know what I'm saying. To stand on what you are, what you had to fight for, just having a voice voice, which is a really crazy thing for me, because, like for me to be able to say things.
Speaker 1:And I have to say things now, I was born in 1987.
Speaker 3:So I was able to listen to all of the hip-hop. Why I was actually climbing is inclined, even all the way when Tupac and Biggie passed. You know I'm saying, but to hear music like yeah, and to know that is somebody behind these songs and like I was a young guy, like that's knowing, like why he doing that, all these hits for these motherfuckers. He could be doing it himself. You ever made a song and been like, damn, I should have kept it for myself. I?
Speaker 1:get asked that all the time. Man, my new single coming out next month. It's called Girlfriend Me, huncho and Plyce.
Speaker 3:Thanks for that exclusive. Yeah, y'all get it. Y'all got it though.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, roll it up the boost. I haven't told anybody that.
Speaker 3:Love Honcho. Yeah, imagine that Sean Garrett Crazy.
Speaker 2:Crazy, crazy.
Speaker 1:But you remember the last blockbuster I did me Mario and Gucci Mane. That was actually my first single. Wow, that was actually my first single. I did me Mario and Gucci Mane. That was actually my first single. Wow, yeah, that was actually my first single.
Speaker 2:That was my first single of my album yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then the blockbuster before that was yeah, of course. Yeah, I like to make those super records. I like to do things that people-.
Speaker 2:It was an upgrade you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3:He said that was like the best collaboration he did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the best collab.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, yeah, I would probably say, soulja was a great collab too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, soulja, dusty Child TI and.
Speaker 2:Wayne.
Speaker 1:Right. We really thought about like that Damn, that's fire. I was really Excited about like I just try to make music, man, that's going to make the fans happy, and sometimes I feel like people don't catch it the first time around so I wait for them to catch it. Right, it's like oh, damn. Oh damn Damn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:By the time they catch it, you're on to another hit. That's the whole thing, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:So I'm really, but I thank y'all too, man, the fans, I thank the people, I thank the media. I just thank everybody, man, for being wise enough to understand some of the shit that's going on.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, media is important too. Especially, you know, what's really great for me today Is to see black media. This is fucking hilarious for me, seriously, because I grew up in Europe, so I'm from Atlanta, but I moved to Europe when I was five. So when you think about media, people don't even understand how important media is. Media is everything. So you get a chance to like. Media gives all the information yes and it's like we never talk in black, in black culture, we never talk about media no, we don't it's never been, it's not in schools, it's not what we talk about every day.
Speaker 1:But then you realize, like how does the information get out and how does it change and what's real about it? I realize that you know what I'm saying every time I get a chance to speak on the platform. I just want to thank people that do things appreciate it, bro appreciate that media is important. The reason I did this interview tonight was because of that little girl right there, mercedes. Shout out, mercedes.
Speaker 3:That's interview tonight was because of that little girl right there, Mercedes Shout out Mercedes man, that's our baby man.
Speaker 1:She's not a little girl, she's a big girl. She got big legs. Yeah, yeah Me too.
Speaker 3:All right, looks man. This is the Real of the Most podcast. Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment If you don't.
Speaker 2:You're a muff. I hate it. Why?
Speaker 3:Because it's free. Listen, man, we play these games. It's like two games. I know you got to go. We're just going to ask a few games, do a few questions and it's going to wrap up the interview.
Speaker 2:All right, White Boy, let them know about the game Fast Track, the game called Fast Track. I say two things, you pick one up. Say two things, you pick one or the other um producer yeah, so we we're gonna go um. Okay, let's go. How about this? Let's do writers let's do yeah let's do. Let's do brian michael cox. Let's do b Michael Cox. Let's do Brian Michael Cox.
Speaker 3:You want some this Okay.
Speaker 2:Or Neo.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 1:That's a good one. I probably have to go with B Cox, because I love Ne-Yo too, by the way. I think Ne-Yo's an amazing songwriter artist, but B Cox has been doing this shit a long time Legendary I think people don't even realize how many hits he got Shit. That's my brother. Shout out to my brother B Cox.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out B Cox, there's too many.
Speaker 1:He was one of the producers that I really, really, really used to talk to all the time, man, because I used to be like man these niggas is hating on me.
Speaker 2:They did, though, but I'm telling you, these niggas is hating on the niggas. You know when you hot. When you hot man, you hot.
Speaker 3:It'd be like certain niggas would tell me how you know when somebody, hating though you, know, because when you're a real motherfucker, when you really bout that you know when they hating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know when they hating They'll say some shit to you Just hate ass nigga.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1:They'll say some shit to you to make them look stupid as fuck Right right. But I can't lie, man. I, like everybody that I compete with you know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I love the dream, yeah, I mean people think I don't like him, but I like dream man, dream dreams. He's actually interesting as funny person, right, I just like whooping his ass. I get a fucking kick out of smoking. Motherfucker, you understand, you feel me Like. I like him. You know what I mean and I want you to get on the mother. I'm one of his bro. The biggest, the most highlight of my career was when he got on there talking shit, right, I fucking loved it. I said, bro, I got so many.
Speaker 3:You was waiting for that shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Belt the ass, get it, man BTA.
Speaker 1:Man, he was playing some bullshit too. Why you all didn't?
Speaker 3:tell me you know what's fucked up. Why is the world you know what really fucked me up? Hey, you know some shit. You know what I realized? Nah, real shit, though. Niggas is really Play your shit, dream what you're doing. No, niggas was saying that Like play your shit Dream.
Speaker 1:It was time.
Speaker 2:I don't remember most of them. Purple Heart I remember Purple Heart.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is that, bro, what was going on?
Speaker 3:son, I want to ask you Yo stop him. White boy stop him. White boy, stop him.
Speaker 1:Everybody was tripping on me. Look man, I made it to the dance. I was already motherfucking. I was at the dance.
Speaker 2:I did everything I could to fuck the whole shit up.
Speaker 1:This nigga came on there and played some bullshit and nobody said nothing. So that let me know like.
Speaker 3:And you come over there and belt the ass, belt the ass.
Speaker 1:I know I played at least 15 number ones.
Speaker 2:No, for sure, yeah, man, shout out them guys. Man For sure you played 15 number ones. That was crazy, man.
Speaker 3:For sure you got me hot.
Speaker 1:You guys are the new Stephen A Smiths. Y'all got to get a nigga together when it's time. Why y'all doing this? Don't never let nobody do that again, guys.
Speaker 3:No real shit though. No, no, no, Don't you ever go against somebody. You ain't ready for man. All right, so it's the culture man.
Speaker 1:You got to stand tall. I love Dream, though. I love it.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I talk a lot of shit, man what?
Speaker 3:do you think about Versus Now, though? You think it should continue, or we should do it. How?
Speaker 2:about live in person. That was amazing man.
Speaker 1:That was amazing. Yeah, I mean we got any kind of competitive vibe.
Speaker 2:Right, right, it's good, it's good. Yeah, I think that's great for the culture.
Speaker 1:And music is man. Y'all want to check out some of this new shit I'm doing Love to. I just got back from Africa.
Speaker 3:I was over there man. Is it that vibe?
Speaker 1:What the vibe like the hello this ain't for me.
Speaker 2:I went to uh, tanzania, but I went to uh tanzania.
Speaker 3:I went to zanzibar, I went to uh da salon.
Speaker 1:I went to kenya and I went to um fires. Yeah well, you want to search for sounds or no? No, no, I just actually went there to. So I shout out to my boy Diamond Platts. He's this incredible artist man from Tanzania. He got one of the biggest songs out there.
Speaker 3:Diamond Platts. Look him up.
Speaker 1:I gave him the album of the year award at the Trace Awards. Okay, that shit was so fly. It was actually. They actually did the awards. It was like the African Grammys and the shit was on the beach, Damn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:What time?
Speaker 1:Them Africans doing the damn thing.
Speaker 3:They got that money over there? Yeah, they do. I heard they bring out bolts of champagne when they in the club. They on some shit over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man. But yeah, got a chance to do that and went to the award show and then also got a chance to, you know, enjoy some culture. You know, went to Da Salon, which is, you know, the mainland from Tanzania. It was beautiful man, just the food, the culture. People were beautiful, they were so welcoming, did a lot of interviews, work with um, shout out to my boy man, um, uh, big gaga man, big larry gaga um from the. Uh, who's the ceo of um, of um gamma africa? Um, those who know?
Speaker 1:wow, that's big shit right there, and then I got a chance to you know, shout out to Sony Africa. Sony Africa, yeah man it was just really amazing. Shout out to Kenya, shout out to Lagos. Man, there's a lot of great things happening. My favorite artist right now? Can y'all tell me who my favorite artist is?
Speaker 3:Right now.
Speaker 1:Who y'all think my favorite artist is Davey, though. It's close.
Speaker 2:Burner Boy, burner Boy, it's close.
Speaker 3:That's what I was about to say.
Speaker 1:Burner Boy who is it Shout out to them? I love Davey, though. I got a song with Davey, though, by the way, liz K.
Speaker 3:When you going to Africa. I know you looking for that sound. You looking for that sound, tim, and you about to go crazy.
Speaker 2:That's fine. They all the hottest right now.
Speaker 1:They the hottest song Aira Star man, she's my favorite. Yeah, yeah, shout out Aira.
Speaker 2:Ooh. She hot, she hot, got some crazy shit.
Speaker 1:But I just, you know, I like really very like very unique artists and we're going to change the world.
Speaker 3:Come on man, I want you to stay unique yourself. Man, let's keep on doing this. Keep on bringing the sound to the culture that's brand new. Let them know how you bring it to the game and keep on doing what you're doing bro, keep on pinning them up, man Pinning them up.
Speaker 1:My new single comes out next month. Man, I got to say this man, never let nobody put you in a box guys, facts. You know all the artists out here. Man is trying. It feels like life is so difficult or so complicated from the perspective of, like you know, people putting you in a space. Man, you just gotta. If you a podcaster and you're an artist at the same time, you can do both yeah.
Speaker 1:If you are a businessman and a manager, you can do both. Mm-hmm, you know. So don't let nobody put you in a box. You know I just wanna be as much as I possibly can as an influencer to people. You know, as much as I possibly can as an influence to people, you know, hopefully you love what I do, Hopefully I inspire you and hopefully, you know, if I get to know you, you inspire me. I just try to stay inspired with people. Facts.
Speaker 3:And keep loving people Before you go. I want you to let the people know how to stay current, man, because you always find your way to stay current, like you always stay with a hit. You always stay working with a new artist, you always finding a new sound. How do you, like, always find a curve to stay current?
Speaker 1:I think being current is just being yourself really. A lot of times, man, people don't know themselves right. So not knowing yourself can date your ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You feel me If you don't know you. You dated in the mother, but me I just always been me and I never been afraid to be myself, and so when I meet see, this is like I meet you. You're from Philly, right? My dad's from Philly, my mom's from Perry Holmes, so my mom and dad met on Fort McPherson, Right. So the part of me that loves Philly you know, this is a very good conversation, right. We could have dinner, we could talk about life right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think limiting yourself from like expounding on everything that makes you better, whether it be the person you meet at you meet your barber, you meet. I just love people. You know what? I'm saying I don't feel like I. I never felt like I was better than anyone man, so I just I think the humbleness of being like yourself keeps you current, like how can you not be current when you you know what I'm saying? Yeah like yeah when you, you, you you yeah, when you trying to be something else.
Speaker 1:You can't be current, you lost yeah so I'm so current and my confidence, my confidence goes with that, yeah, yeah so a confident, a confident moment that I know they sell is hell. Facts.
Speaker 2:True to yourself.
Speaker 1:Good point, that's currency.
Speaker 3:Yeah, damn. Stay confident to yourself equals currency. Let's get that right, man. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:So not only you current, you currency. You know, motherfuckers know what it is. I can pull up anything I want to, at any time At any day, like why the fuck I ain't current?
Speaker 2:Pop it.
Speaker 1:So you're current C I would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:And then you know that's not an overly exaggerated perspective. That's just like life.
Speaker 2:Reality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's your reality right, yeah, that's it. If you can do what you want to do, why aren't you current?
Speaker 2:It's reality.
Speaker 1:That's reality.
Speaker 3:We're going to start One Gotta Go.
Speaker 2:One Gotta Go. I named four things and we just picked one to go. Nothing personal, I'm going to say four artists Drew Hill, Jagged Edge, Jodeci, 112, one got to go.
Speaker 1:Not at all. It get like that.
Speaker 3:It get like that, bro. It's going to get worse. This is the first one man one got to go. Yeah, it get worse. This is the first one. Damn this game tight, it's a nice crew. It's a nice crew, but guess what? We shout out everybody by even saying their names and being able to put them in those pillars.
Speaker 1:You know, what's beautiful about right now is like R&B is like it's not making a comeback, it's not making a surge, it's just great.
Speaker 3:It's just floating.
Speaker 1:I feel like R&B feels really good. I want to shout out a couple things I really like right now. Mariah Thee Sainz has got a really great song though.
Speaker 3:Shout out to her.
Speaker 2:I love her music, shout out to her, she got something going on.
Speaker 1:What's my man? He got the song with Mike.
Speaker 3:I love Mike, you all know that song, say that again, you all like the song with Mike.
Speaker 1:I love Mike. You all know that song. Say that again. You all like the song Mike.
Speaker 2:Mike Leon Thompson.
Speaker 1:Leon Thomas.
Speaker 2:Thomas, yeah, yeah, he hot. He got the hottest song out right now.
Speaker 1:My song is really good. It's a very intricate, it's an integral take on love. But he's being honest. I like songs like that Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, let's do another one white boy. Okay, let's do. Why are you white boy, bro? Because that's my name. Okay, because he dressed like a white boy.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, let's go Tyrese Avant Joe Case Case.
Speaker 3:No Case a little. No Case is one of them. Bro Case is cool, he's one of them Joe's fire.
Speaker 1:All those guys are crazy.
Speaker 2:Ain't they.
Speaker 3:One got to go. One got to go. They got to get kicked out of the car. Avant Tyrese. Who getting kicked out of the car, avant Tyrese. Who getting kicked out of the car man? They ain't putting no gas in it.
Speaker 2:I think those guys will be fighting to get out of the car.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, it's a real wild game. I think Tyrese he ain't letting up.
Speaker 3:It'll be Tyrese. Yeah, tyrese, staying, shout out, tyrese. What's up brother?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he staying.
Speaker 3:Shout out my brother.
Speaker 2:He staying.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 3:Sorry, we riding four deep.
Speaker 1:Y'all gotta figure this out Avant that game, right?
Speaker 3:there Avant.
Speaker 1:Probably Avant for me. Yeah, he might get singing. I love Tank, though you know what. You gotta throw Jaheim. You gotta start throwing Jaheim in there too, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Nah Put Jaheim with life or something I don't know, maybe yeah with life, there you go. Yeah, fill him with life, my boy Kevin, 100. My boy said yeah All right this, the last one right here, man. You a nut Nah but you know what let's change?
Speaker 1:that though. Yeah, man, what were you with motherfucking Versus night? What were you, white boy? I didn't see you on the scope, white boy.
Speaker 3:He couldn't call you white boy, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why did y'all let like somebody got to talk to me.
Speaker 3:Yo, we coaching verses now, man for now on, Swiss got to holler at us. He thought he could hang in there with you Swiss got to holler at us I just want to ask y'all.
Speaker 2:He thought he could hang in there.
Speaker 1:It was like another ride that night though right, he thought he could hang in. I just want to make sure we going to call it spade to spade.
Speaker 3:We going to call it spade to spade, man. We talking about multi-platinum albums, man.
Speaker 1:He thought he could hang in there with you.
Speaker 3:We talking about number ones after number ones. It ain't no reason to play them, and I love.
Speaker 2:Dream bro, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I love Dream If it wasn't you. I know y'all love Dream man. I know y'all love Dream man.
Speaker 3:That's why I give him some of my stuff. No, if it wasn't you, it would have probably been like a big, big argument. You know what I'm saying, but being as though you came through, how you came through, see.
Speaker 2:I'm a realist with the music.
Speaker 3:I ain't got nothing to say.
Speaker 2:That was a rough stop, you got too many.
Speaker 3:It was a rough stop.
Speaker 2:You got too many Billboard Hot 100s Rematch. Let's get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's get it this time. And he bringing Rilla the most with him too.
Speaker 1:Swiss this time. Right here, Y'all can say that I ain't going to say it. I ain't going to say it.
Speaker 3:No, we going to judge this one right I just want to make sure I get paid.
Speaker 1:For sure no I got paid, but I want to make sure I get paid for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man paper and history.
Speaker 3:And you're going to have some more number ones by then too.
Speaker 1:So let's get it. The Dream is going to fucking be mad.
Speaker 3:He's going to be mad. Shout out to Dream man. Shout out to guys man. Shout out to everybody else.
Speaker 2:I really think Honcho going to be one of the biggest artists in 2026. I yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell. Yeah, I'm with that. I like that white boy All right, let's go.
Speaker 2:Last one right here the big major one.
Speaker 3:Just wrap it up, Jay-Z.
Speaker 2:Birdman, dr Dre, diddy, jermaine Dupri oh damn, One got to go. You switched it. One got to go.
Speaker 3:Mmm, you snapped. He snapped on you. Yeah, I don't know. He just snapped on you. I don't know what you're going to say. I think all those guys are really great.
Speaker 2:All those guys are great, right?
Speaker 1:I can't do nothing with it Damn.
Speaker 2:If it was up to me, I would go probably with the I be thinking like damn, can I live without the West Coast music like Dr Dre and them? I can't. Sometimes I be thinking I can.
Speaker 1:You saw that boy, kendrick, go crazy.
Speaker 2:I know right, he going crazy, Drake going nuts too.
Speaker 1:I love Kendrick. Shout out to Mustard man.
Speaker 2:I love Mustard, mustard going wild.
Speaker 1:That music was really good, though, Really really good.
Speaker 3:You can't drop For. You can't drop it. Yo, it's not one person on that list you can get rid of for real.
Speaker 1:It's just hard West Coast.
Speaker 3:Especially Jermaine Dupri. Yeah, it's hard, jermaine's hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can tell you, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 3:Listen, it's the Real or the Most podcast man. I'm Real, I'm.
Speaker 2:WhiteboyD2A.
Speaker 3:Make sure you share, man. We got Sean Garrett in the building. Man, that's our ski, we talking our shit, we popping it. Man, this is real as it gets.
Speaker 2:Man, this is where you're going to come from Telling y'all niggas, man, y'all get y'all 20 together, anybody in versus nigga, and make sure they top 100.
Speaker 1:20 piece, exactly. I swear to God, bro, that's the realest shit. Get you a 20 piece and come fuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2:Y'all heard it here first on Realer Than Moose.
Speaker 3:Get y'all a 20 piece and come fuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2:Get y'all 20 pieces together, nigga.
Speaker 3:I don't care who it is.
Speaker 1:Let's go.
Speaker 2:And we out, we out.
Speaker 1:All the new ones too.
Speaker 2:The new boys be talking crazy. Get you a nice 20, get they 20 clipped together. They gotta be billboard, they gotta be hot 100 number ones, that's been at least. At least At least six weeks. Number one At least. At least Y'all heard it here.
Speaker 3:First. It's the realest and most podcast.
Speaker 1:Sean Garrett in the building and he ain't just talking, he popping it Big shit, we talking, big dollars, big shit, big hits, let's get it 20 piece chicken nugget.
Speaker 2:Get that shit together. Real of the Moose podcast.
