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Rico Havoc sits down for one of his most revealing conversations yet, taking us through the extraordinary journey that transformed him from a young dancer in Philadelphia's Dollar Boys movement to a musical innovator who changed the city's sound.
Born while his mother was incarcerated and with his father behind bars, Rico's early life under his grandmother's care in Southwest Philadelphia established the foundation for his resilience. When he emerged as a standout talent in the Dollar Boys—a youth dance movement centered around Jams skating rink—Rico was already building cultural capital without realizing it. These weekend dance battles weren't just entertainment; they were the breeding ground for an entire aesthetic movement that would eventually reshape Philadelphia's musical identity.
What makes Rico's story particularly powerful is how personal tragedy became the catalyst for his musical evolution. After experiencing violence on the streets, coping with his mother's dementia, and serving time in juvenile detention, Rico found his voice in the recording booth. His breakthrough hit "Lucas" wasn't just a song with a dance—it was the blueprint that opened doors for countless Philadelphia artists who followed.
Throughout our conversation, Rico draws important distinctions between his "derp" style and drill music, emphasizing that his art comes from processing trauma rather than glorifying it. "I don't make music to make people want to do stuff," he explains. "I make music to escape what I'm going through and to touch people." This philosophy has allowed him to continuously reinvent himself while maintaining an authenticity that resonates deeply with listeners.
Listen now to understand how one artist's journey through grief, incarceration, and creative evolution created ripple effects that continue to shape an entire city's musical landscape. As Rico himself puts it: "It's never over for me"—words that speak to the resilience that defines both his life and his art.
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Speaker 4:One. Oh man, what's up? White boy, we got the guy in the building man, that's our ski you know what I mean. Now, when he came in here, I told him you know what I mean. He, the prince of Philly man. You know what I'm saying? This is my guy. Why not the king? The king, yeah, why not? I'm asking you.
Speaker 1:I always gave you the prince. I don't know why. You was always the prince of the city to me.
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Speaker 2:So you know, like, coming out of Philly, that's one of the young guys that's been working for a long time and um, when I say I know he young, so when I say a long time, y'all like that, how long could it be? Well, it's been. It's been a little while like his whole life yeah, since he came on the scene and you know philadelphia. They had a um, a kid group back in the day that um held all uh, all the talent from all over the city and it was called the dollar boys and then um.
Speaker 2:Inside the dollar boys, rico was one of the like prominent kids and everybody would come to these parties and see dance and watch dances, things like that. So it's like he actually been on the scene for over a decade in the game. So it's like it's dope to have him on our couch today and then like everything that he um that he did in the um in the music we're gonna get into it it's, it's been, it's been excellent to see and, um, you know we're gonna talk about it today, you know sir, yes sir, the trials and errors, you know.
Speaker 2:I'm saying tribes and trib. We just gonna get into it, man.
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Speaker 2:So Rico, where you from Rico?
Speaker 5:What's up y'all? Rico Havoc, yeah, the Derp King, the Derp God. Yeah, I'm from Southwest Philadelphia. You know, killadove the finest To be, exact. You know, I love where I'm from, right, shout out to my city.
Speaker 2:You know, coming up in Philly growing up the Southwest area is not an easy place to come up out of and coming up we be having influences, and when I say influences right away, I mean like the ones that be like either in your house or like right outside your door. Give me a few of them. Give me a few of them growing up.
Speaker 5:First of all, let me shout out to my G-mom she had came and picked me up from Muncie County, where my mom was locked up when she had me. Okay, and coming from Muncie County, moving to down the bottom.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 5:And shout out to my G-mom. So you know I ain't going to say the average, you know poverty kid or like the average person coming from Philly, but I was at my grandma's house, it was a couple of us.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying. So I grew up in that you know we had some good home cooked meals. We had some fun play fights with my cousin. You know sport competition, I came from that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 5:As far as like in house, right, you know. As like in, in, in house right you know,
Speaker 2:what I'm saying. Yeah, so that's dope, so wow. So basically moms was uh, basically she was booked while she was pregnant with you?
Speaker 5:yeah, and when when she gave birth to you. Yeah, it was in prison. Yeah, in the muncie county hospital. Yeah, yeah, dang, my grandma had to come pick me up, and my dad was locked up too okay, you know lonely. My pop and team man he was, he was, he was locked up at the time too. So I had to go with my grandma. Okay, my mom ain't really had too many, too many family up here.
Speaker 5:They came from maryland okay to south philly, yeah, so like she ain't really had too many like family out here.
Speaker 2:So my dad, all my, my papa and they from North, so like that's how that went yeah, shout out to grandma yeah, shout out to my G mom and like down, so you coming up with grandma as an early influence, and then like mmm, so give me like when, so, so give me dancing, so when dancing come along. Oh, dancing came along when, like you talking about MySpace DMACC, I'm talking about like when dancing came along in your life, like in childhood.
Speaker 5:When we just having our cookouts, like we was having our cookouts, I think, like party music from over here was just now hitting the scene, evolving from, I know, dc got their own thing, or Jersey, but in Philly when they blocked the parties off just back when people was doing the spray paint t-shirts. Y'all remember when people used to transition in RIP t-shirts and everybody used to get their Jones Airbrush. This was that time. So they had it blocked off and played a part of the music and I'll always be battling my Aunt Bert and shit Shout out, aunt Bert, man Shout out.
Speaker 4:Aunt Bert.
Speaker 5:Aunt Bert, uncle Dan, they used to always pipe me up as a youngin', so I just knew the love that just was what it was you know what I'm saying, right?
Speaker 2:so like early on, would you, um, just like at the, at the uh neighborhood cookouts and you know you, you busting out on dances and doing dances, like okay. So back then, like, did you think? Like, oh, did you have it in your head? Like I can, I'm, I'm dancing a little bit better than your average person I got it's something there. No, it was natural, first of all first of all, I'm black.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:So, when it comes to having rhythm, right and you know the ones that came before us, like michael j, just just a thing like if you was, like you know, archipelagic, you just had rhythm and soul. Dancing was a norm. Yeah, as far as when I moved with my mom when I was nine years old and and we went to southwest, we lived in north for a year and then we went down southwest, I kind of I wasn't, I wasn't dancing, I was kind of like going into the dollar parties, but then I looked on youtube and then they had that light on dancers and party groups so I used to be watching it from my computer like, oh, who the fuck is this? People at us, jams, skating rinks.
Speaker 2:So I used to watch it on YouTube like yo.
Speaker 5:I need to go up there, like I need to find a way to go up there and be a part of it, because I remember back when I was like five, six, that my aunt and my uncle used to make me dance at the block parties, Okay, and I kind of wanted to tap back in because it was like intriguing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so that's how that came about. And then I was on YouTube like yo. I got to get up jams.
Speaker 2:So we're so. Jams basically is like a party place.
Speaker 5:It's a skating rink.
Speaker 2:It was was a skating ring that everybody used to go to philadelphia, where everybody go to yeah on um saturdays or sundays yeah and all the lord dance groups go there and showcase their talent and battle yeah, yeah, and there was more to it, though.
Speaker 5:Like you had to have the air pasta. Yeah, you had to have your swag when the h and them striped hoodies was on, remember? They had american apparel with the capital letter and the lowercase letter.
Speaker 2:It was a whole like different type of vibe you know what I'm saying yeah, no, for sure, it was definitely a whole little new era coming in yeah, like that, that whole little era was coming in and it came in strong and like. People would think like uh, it's just a fad, yeah.
Speaker 2:But if you really look at it, that's where the whole shake, that era and everything come from it all stemmed from that right all the all the kids that's making the shake, that sound and music and dance moves it really all come from jams yeah I mean yeah facts or, or was inspired no, I come from that yeah, yeah, no, you said it right the first time it come from that because, um, everything resurfaced and hit a 360.
Speaker 5:yeah and you know skating is is the culture for Philly, for our city too. Yeah, yeah, like skating, dancing being fly. This is pre-DVD Now we talking about. We got DVD spitters. That's a different bracket, age bracket than it is, than like prior, like teens and younger kids growing up. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. So it's like these are little bros, this is what they doing the party shit.
Speaker 2:And yeah, they dancing, they wearing yeah, so all right, the DVD guys. They graduated to wherever, where they stopped doing DVDs and now they making tapes so while they like all growing in their careers and like trying to get it right, me blowing up everybody else just trying to make music yeah and get their song rightwriting and artistry together.
Speaker 2:You got the young guys that's coming up when you would think it would be like a lot of other things going on. No, y'all chose to dance and start doing music and create these little groups and create a little like village inside of my space and these little social media platforms to bring y'all all together to come to jams on saturday and sunday to battle because it was all build-ups yeah you know, I mean it wouldn't be just like we come in the gym.
Speaker 2:No, it'll be a whole week of shit. That happened on MySpace and YouTube building up to get to jams.
Speaker 5:Before TikTok. This is before YouTube viral Before a lot of that stuff. So that opened up the doors to us being able to monetize where we at now as far as people doing the jams thing but we was doing production, we're not talking about the beats we was making, we was listening to our own beats, dj rl dj tis like that's not just take away from the dance. This was a whole like yeah, movement, movement world. Like you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:like diamond cuts this team nike, team nike like uh fucking, uh fire nation like.
Speaker 5:But they had their own production, we had the computer. So it was like yeah we kind of was monetizing back then and didn't even know what we was doing.
Speaker 4:That's what I was gonna ask you. Did y'all know what y'all was doing?
Speaker 5:bro. Nah, you know why YouTube wasn't getting paid for that stuff? Back in YouTube. Ok, it was all new. It was all new. You know what I'm saying. After Soulja Boy, after he did the Superman at home, start going into the boroughs, we was kind of like the borough, that kind of created our own conglomerate you monetizing, doing your own flyers, people making money to DJ the 923 era. This was so y'all like YouTube darling.
Speaker 2:So coming in on YouTube and getting a lot of views and millions of views and things, it was like read dollars and then it trickled down to like DVD rappers, that's coming out of Philly. And then after that it was y'all Like after that it would be all these battles and dance teams.
Speaker 5:That's why I like your story, you seen you was a part of all that I'm talking about when Meek Mill was going to, he ain't missed nothing.
Speaker 5:When Meek Mill had to throw the joint up, like when he was up and coming and he had to put us around his arm. Like was up and coming and he had to put us around his arm, like I'm talking about 13. Yeah, and like when he was doing his drawing. You know, I don't know if it was sneaker villa back then, but it was one of them jaws where dtlr sneaker villa it was sneaker villa. Yeah, and meek had to do like us, like a um promo promo there, but he wasn't like he was.
Speaker 5:This was like pre-rick ross up and coming. There's a flame coming, so he had to like your baby, I'm in my bag, I'm in my bag. And he put his hands around and said kind of like, oh snap, like yeah, so like that, oh no man, that's what I was telling you Like.
Speaker 2:that's why I commended you earlier, because that's for for you to be who you was then and still be who you are now and everything in between. That's not an easy job to do now I mean, so it's like for you to, you know, make it through. Everything that happened in between is like dope to see. You still come out on top, like making the dope music, like you're making right now it's dope now.
Speaker 4:The reason why I asked you did you know what you was doing? Because that's so many resources from dancing yeah, yeah, yeah I mean going through some of the stuff you've been through like yeah, so so what you?
Speaker 2:uh, you know y'all building the um dollar boys and um being one of the um known and top dancing groups coming out of the city and you actually being like one of them, one of them prominent figures. All right, let me paint the picture a little bit for the, for the people out there. So our dance group, dance group, now everybody, we all seen you got served, so you got Rico over here. Then we gonna just say we got, come on, give me somebody.
Speaker 5:You got DJ crazy.
Speaker 2:DJ crazy over here.
Speaker 5:Mm-hmm, I got.
Speaker 2:Rico team. Dj crazy team. Now you got, seem like you got dollar boys now, rico Rico is actually the guy that they like, the guy he got in the front. That they like the guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he got you in the front. Put him in the front.
Speaker 2:He's going to end it. He's going to start it and he's going to end it. Crazy as well.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:They clash. You see what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying so they are.
Speaker 2:That's who they are.
Speaker 1:And now to see y'all like, actually be who y'all are and do music today it's even way more dope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like crazy, bro. All right, so that's boom. You. You the head of your team, he the head of his team, y'all going head on now with you being that. Did you ever see yourself actually doing music?
Speaker 5:actually doing music. I wanted to do music but I kinda was like I used to write little shit and just try, like just little stuff, like try I did. I probably recorded something when I was like 14, like two songs, I think, when. Uh, I love that. That my fucking problem. I think I recorded that. My voice ain't problem. I think I require that. My voice ain't even cracked when I did that joint. I kind of like tried it and then I kind of put my little notebook away and kind of like put it under my bed and just kind of, because I had home stuff going on too. So, bringing me back to reality, my imagination wasn't that broad.
Speaker 2:My imagination was't that broad.
Speaker 5:My imagination was only the dancing, the parties skating at Elmwood, going to Shaw Middle School, coming back home and trying to order Amber Crimey and Fitch off the internet. That was my whole like Rob Markman Jr Reality. Lil Yachty Jr Reality to fit you off the internet Like that was my whole like reality. I wasn't thinking like damn, like I'm gonna be the next Jay-Z, like if I'm being real.
Speaker 4:Nah, cause, in all reality you was young and like thuggin livin.
Speaker 5:But I was taking pictures Like I did have fans back then though, yeah, oh hell yeah dog From the dancing Hell, yeah, but.
Speaker 4:I wasn have fans back then though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, oh, hell yeah dog From the dancing Hell. Yeah, but I wasn't even aware about that, so I wasn't even thinking like you feel me I was so in the moment you was moving. I was moving.
Speaker 2:That's how we live, though, because that's how we watch the older people above us live, so they live in a moment. They don't prepare for the future. We gonna grow up and see that and be the same way.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, like with you not being able to like see the future, they ain't really nothing wrong, it's just like circumstances.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the being in the present kinda like circumstances. Yeah, just being in the present, because I was kind of growing up. It looked like I was doing, but at home I was being forced to grow faster than I kind of really wanted.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 5:I'm saying the dollar boy and all that.
Speaker 2:You like being the kid that you always wanted to be, but as soon as you go home, you can't be that kid.
Speaker 5:It's like yeah, now it's kind of like damn, I'm back to my I'm back to my reality.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:For me as like just moving with my mom at you know, 10 years old, Right, and I was like damn, I ain't live with my mom for all these many years. So it's like I'm loving outside because she gonna let me bet, like feel me, yeah, so coming back home today it's kind of like. It's like kind of damn. It's like she support all that yo do music like you want. Then like she support that, you know what I'm saying. And then coming back home and it's like damn, damn, I'm ready to learn this joint computer. Go back outside.
Speaker 5:Just regular like I'm pretty sure a lot of kids in Philly grew up like that and it wasn't until she had got dementia and I was going to school.
Speaker 4:A lot of people didn't grow up like that though.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, I mean, but I'm only speaking for, like, you got a certain kind bro yeah I mean you one of them.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying grateful to be grateful
Speaker 4:to be one of them, and and that's, that's the reason to come with all these talents and the way you carry yourself, being able to speak to people and light up a room when you feel like lighting up that room.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying um I think that all came from even being on camera. When I was young, People would think this shit was like no, I was kind of like this all built confidence.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this all was premeditated.
Speaker 5:These are levels that you can't buy. Yeah, I had to go through it, that's why, like you, can't go to school? For this no fact.
Speaker 2:This is life levels you got to go through it. Yeah fact, trials and tribulations. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:It's things that you went through that people could come to you about.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 4:That you got the knowledge on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:You feel me and that's how you got to take in what you're going through and everything I do that now I think I I used to Because I didn't see my impact. It only took for me to get older and have my own child to say yo damn. And really sit back and see how much? I was blessed and not worry about too much of the circumstances that I've been through Like damn. I had to struggle to be this, I mean. I mean that's the make of it.
Speaker 5:But no, not really. Yeah, but nigga, you gotta just be grateful for all that shit, yeah. You know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Ultimately, bro, you ushered in a whole lane and then, like you were like motivation to the kids that came up under you that was trying to do what you were already doing Know what I mean. And then when you signed your deal, it made it be more tangible, like oh no, it's not far-fetched, I can get that. Rico did it he from right. Here, you know, I mean type.
Speaker 2:So with uh what you having that coming up, and then you like, all right, I'm gonna try myself in music. So now our music coming about. So you coming off the dollar boys and music coming about, give me music coming about. So you coming off the dollar boys and music coming about, give me the duration from the dollar boys to lucas.
Speaker 5:All right, so that's something I do. My mom had got dementia when I was all right, so we doing 14, 15 because I had got.
Speaker 4:I remember I got jumped by wilson projects man yeah, yeah, we was down there scrubbing kid Rob Markman.
Speaker 5:Was this your high school days, lil Jon? I was in shit, rob Markman. Were you in high school, lil Jon? No, middle school, rob Markman. Middle school, lil Jon. I think I was about to go ninth grade, west Philly High, rob Markman. Okay, lil Jon, right there. I think that's when my urge because we had gotten into a situation down there at the Boys and Girls Club, they had rude on me down there. When they rude on me and all that I kinda was like the situation made me be like man, fuck this shit, what school? Just like all that shit Dance and shit.
Speaker 2:That's what you was fighting for.
Speaker 1:I was fighting for my respect.
Speaker 5:I wasn't even on that Nigga. We had the Young Bulls Niggas was hiding in trash cans and all that shit. I was kind of sacrificing myself for niggas out there, these niggas older and all that. But I was already influenced outside of that. Yeah, leading up like little stuff, like trying to smoke weed like my mom, like why your eyes look like that she already think I'm smoking.
Speaker 4:just like 15, 14, like where you was getting that influence from, like just around my way when you was getting that influence from Just around my way, I'm down. Southwest.
Speaker 5:Was this the OB days? This wasn't OB. Yeah, this was.
Speaker 3:Y'all don't know. They don't know about OB days.
Speaker 5:They don't know about OB days. That are the guys from the OB days. This was after that. Yeah, man, this was like right after that.
Speaker 4:So I kind of like you was groomed already, you know yeah.
Speaker 5:I already kind of like you was groomed, I already knew where, I knew, like I felt, like I grew that After that happened I feel like damn, like fuck, I'm in this shit, or like this shit, real life, out this joint, like something could have happened to me, you done got around.
Speaker 5:I still got a scar on my back from that shit, like I got cut from that shit and all that. So I'm like this shit ain't worth it, like nigga, I'd rather just like I'm going through all this other shit. So the duration was that, and then that same year.
Speaker 2:I'm right across the street from Roar.
Speaker 4:What up Bings?
Speaker 2:Got.
Speaker 4:Uncle Mac on the phone.
Speaker 5:Yo Mac. So look, that same year my Dukes was already going through what she was going through. We kind of was going through our own shit. I was around the lean and all that heavy. Already that was her era. I'm like a baby of that shit. You know what I'm saying? My mom just coming home and now she trying to raise a boy to be a man. And I'm kind of already outside a little bit now. Rob Markman, you on your bop already, Lil Jon.
Speaker 5:I'm already on my bop. She know her son really the shit. So it it was like when she got her own person, like she's stepping up to the plate to do what she gotta do, my dad still locked up can. So the duration was like man, this I might go hang with my homies from around my way. Like let me just never just let that happen to me. Like, or just like like that. So that's my mindset as younger. Like this ain't gonna last. That little other shit I used to be in the computer is dead to me now only because of the environment. I'm influenced.
Speaker 1:Now, feel me now I'm trying to be taken.
Speaker 5:I can't be so now it's like up my mindset got locked up. You feel me, then, that you know what I'm saying. My mom started getting.
Speaker 4:This is when philadelphia gets a hold of rico having this.
Speaker 5:when they get the, they get a hold of the other side of me, like now I'm out here jamming shit and all that Just now. It's like because my mom got dementia, now she paying the rent and all that. Now she, like I, was walking home from school one day. She had a situation. I remember walking home with my friends, man this right when Obama just became president, she had a situation. I had a traumatic situation, man. Last time my mom even was really herself. That I knew, man, it fucked me up. So I was-.
Speaker 4:How was you able to-.
Speaker 5:I was 14. That shit just like Get over that. I had to sell her pills for her now and all that. So now I was like man I I gotta be a man like I came around that that other, that dog, was going after that because, like now it's like we about to get evicted. You feel what I'm saying? Now I gotta help my mom sell her 30s and her zeddies no, no, no it is what it is.
Speaker 5:It's deep, it's already. It's like nigga, I don't even we. Just we've been together for like five years, so now it go into the other lane. You feel what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I got booked right after that.
Speaker 5:You know and this is a part, this, so I'm not doing. I'm not doing that, I'm not doing music. I'm survival mindset. I'm young, it's me. My mom, my sister, moved out. My stepdad you know what I'm saying. I don't know where he at, but now it's like I got to help her, wash her back and shit like that. This shit deep. So when you going to school, I'm going to worry about school. I'm going to jump out and try to help my situation. That's when I started doing other shit that got me locked up. Then I got locked up. She passed away while I was locked up in two days.
Speaker 4:Was you able to grieve in jail? No, no, no.
Speaker 5:I didn't even get to do that, though the judge. Let me come to her genaza. My aunt put a note in like yo let her. It's like she knew what was going on. She put it through already. Yeah, she kind of knew. Having dementia, she used to forget stuff. I used to have to go to the store. I'm like I can't go to the store. I got to make sure my mom good, she forget things. So then I said fuck West Philly High. I'm like fuck that shit. They already sent me to Vision Quest for some other shit. And then she passed away. So I came home. I wasn't doing music still when she passed away. They let me go to 100 Naza. I went to that joint. I came back. I came home. After that I had to live with my aunt up the street and my aunt was like yo you come down to Georgia.
Speaker 5:And that's when you left and went down south. That's when I left and went down south like 15, 16. So now I'm like I only know FL. So now I'm making beats down there oh, I might just jump into the music shit, because I can't focus in school. I'm all the way in Harry County like down. You know what I mean. And so the duration was like three years. How?
Speaker 4:was school down.
Speaker 5:So I went on a run because my judge master wall let me go down there so you was on a run down there no, I had to go to school.
Speaker 5:The judge let me go down there, all right. So she like, if you go down there, you go to school, you're gonna live with your aunt down georgia and do what you gotta do. How was school down there? I was, I was gone, but I couldn't focus. I was grieving down there there. Yeah, feel me. So I'm like I wanted to do music because I started meeting my homie across the street that lived. He had a studio in his crib. I used to be like no Right, that's where I'm supposed to be. Like I'm about to just start.
Speaker 4:So how'd the studio? Was it like a nice job? I started doing music. Was it a nice joint? No, no, it was a crib joint.
Speaker 5:He didn't know what to do with it. He just like man, come here whatever you want. So my aunt thinking I'm going to school. I've been in his crib the whole time on the computer trying to record by myself. But that was the duration. So, my aunt like damn, you ain't going to school or none of that. She sent my ass back up to Philly and I got locked up for being on the run dang and then that's when. That's what I'm like I'll be turning this all the way out.
Speaker 4:No, it ain't good. Yeah, that's when that came up. I came back, yeah, yeah, so, so, so, yeah, that's crazy white boy. That's super.
Speaker 5:The duration right there before that that was a breakdown of the whole. So it was like I went through all that just for me to come do that. Nine months, graduate, come home and in three months I had the biggest record out in the bitty bro, yeah, feel me.
Speaker 2:So how that felt like having Lucas, Because when that came out that was just a hit the ground running and it was the biggest record in that city at one point in time.
Speaker 5:I had Lucas, I had Demon nigga, I had who Got Bad, I got bad.
Speaker 4:I had some other shit too. I had Blood. We ain't never really like I told my homies they kept dropping.
Speaker 5:Damn, I missed some other parts too, though.
Speaker 4:What in the midst of the door racing?
Speaker 5:Yeah, because when I was locked up, one of my mom die, I met this nigga in Vision Quest that had a studio and he used to and he hit me up when I was living in Georgia. Like yo, I got a studio. Do you know how to engineer? So when he got dropped off, I started working at his studio recording myself in Philly. Okay, damn, I forgot about that shit, damn.
Speaker 2:Damn that's. That's so like that's that's so.
Speaker 4:it's like every angle kept coming yeah.
Speaker 5:Everything came along like.
Speaker 2:Oh, I explain what I hear is work. I think I'm saying yeah, I just always work, trying to get somewhere, work and work and work and just trying to get to a land. I mean I like that and then, and then you come back and then you land Lucas. That being the biggest record of the city is like wow and you a kid at the time how that felt being able to be outside, be recognized and known all over for this record.
Speaker 5:That shit felt regular, bro, because I was already known. I wasn't even worried about that, I was more so like damn dog.
Speaker 2:It had to be a little different, though you got record labels, execs, I can fathom it though, bro.
Speaker 5:I can't really put it. I can't fathom it because it's like I know, wildo, I was around you. You seen it, he was around, he was rockstar.
Speaker 4:I was so like this.
Speaker 5:He was Rockstar Gone. I'm so moving.
Speaker 1:Rockstar.
Speaker 5:If you sit there and Rob Markman he was a rock star, rob.
Speaker 5:Markman, a rock star. If you sit there and this for anybody out there if you sit there and try to dissect every blessing or every way that God is trying to curate stuff in your life, it's going to fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, rob Markman, you got to be in the moment. You know what I'm saying? I'm not telling you to go do drugs and try to shy away from it, but be present, whereas though you can look up like damn, I ain't even peep. That shit just happened.
Speaker 5:It's already written it's the color of my body, because sometimes it be like that you know what I'm saying, right? So I can't even give you that whole rundown, because I was just so in the moment, right, being the best I could be at that moment I could understand that.
Speaker 2:I could understand that, with you being so young, you know what I'm saying yeah, bro, I was 19. Yeah, dang, he was that young yeah, 19, 20 like that man that was, that was a big record. That record ultimately land you your record deal. So, like, with you having that record, did you think that? With you having that record? Did you think that, with you having that?
Speaker 5:record that it would do that?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you did I ain't know it was going to do that, but I knew like I remember telling King Money like yo, bro, this shit a banger. I look at him like he pulled up on me, like yo, listen to this beat, I got this beat. I got this beat Cause I was just running around like doing a little you know what I'm saying selling my little uh-uh off, my digi, like all that other shit. I used to just write and just write for bro, bro comes, kidnap we going to the yo then you trippin'.
Speaker 5:So when he pulled up, he like I got this beat. He found Lucas beat on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Long live K.
Speaker 5:Money man. Long live Kendrick man. Long live K Money. Long live my nigga, ronnie Blaze man. I appreciate you, brody. He pulled up and was like nigga, I got this beat. He played it. I was like ugh, I started locking. Then on that I wrote to that joint. That same night Went to the studio. I knew that joint was going to be a cooker.
Speaker 2:So when you did that, you made the dance up right then and there or you arbitrated.
Speaker 5:Nah, it was already in the video. It wasn't intentionally to do a dance.
Speaker 2:A dance to go with it.
Speaker 5:It ain't like TikTok, where it's like yo, I got to make a dance to go viral.
Speaker 2:It wasn't no TikTok.
Speaker 5:It wasn't TikTok.
Speaker 2:No, you made all of that.
Speaker 5:In the moment. Yeah, me and my homie just on something doing us. Yeah, Fly, niggas swaggy. You know what I mean. Yeah yeah, yeah, doing our little shit, enjoying y'allself young niggas having it.
Speaker 4:And that's the great part about it.
Speaker 2:Organic. Is that?
Speaker 4:you didn't even know what y'all was doing, y'all just was organically having real natural fun, and that's what hip hop about. You know what I'm saying Organically dancing, rapping what you feel and speaking from the heart. You know what I'm saying, Talking about the culture, what's going on, and it's so crazy that y'all didn't even know. Y'all was that's what y'all was doing.
Speaker 2:I don't care how much money you put behind something you never going to beat doing. I don't care how much money you put behind something you never going to beat authenticity, I don't care. I don't care how much money you're getting.
Speaker 5:I think they call it flow. Yeah, I think they call it when you in a flow state, you're not trying Right. So I think that's what they call that like flow, like when you in flow, you just go Mack, you're not trying, you're being, you're being the person, you're not like I'm trying to be like this, you're just doing it flowing Right right, right, that's how a lot of shit. That's why in hip hop nigga it's called flow. That's it. This crash Rico.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hey, bitch, give him a mic, give him back the mic, man.
Speaker 5:Nah, bro, definitely got to sit down. Why you mad at me for what? Because you dropped that monster and I wanted you to hold on. Hold on for what. You know how long they been holding on.
Speaker 3:I just wanted you to get the right setup.
Speaker 5:Yeah, all right, bro, I appreciate that. See, this is the car. When a nigga wants you to do it, yeah, you've been through a situation. You ain't gotta tell me to hold on and do right. Yeah, right, like, come on, I mean I got. They say the best teacher is your own experience yeah, no question, that's where we come from.
Speaker 2:Trial and error that's what we talk about right here. Yeah, that's crazy so yeah, what you uh, with that record blowing up and being that record and also like, because I I believe, like that whole record and like we were just saying, would you not even like being like yo, this is a big record, that I'm like, I'm putting a dance to the record with everything just being authentic, and then like people coming out after you with that same formula, right?
Speaker 5:you see what I'm saying, though, yeah so it's like you.
Speaker 2:You ushered in the lane, and it went so well that after it it becomes a formula for many others yeah for plenty others it still is to this day. That's the blueprint the blueprint's the blueprint.
Speaker 5:I remember Mac said that Mac used to say he said on an interview, like man Rico, my favorite artist, when people would just throw out kind of rap, the derf silver surf that was dope that was really dope sick, I ain't really.
Speaker 3:That was dope that was really dope, yeah, sick.
Speaker 5:That is bop. Yeah yeah Word. I ain't really take it as. As I got older I started seeing, like damn, that kind of was my whole point, because my homies was rapping before me. I used to try and record them, letting them know, like yo, we got to do some different shit. Nigga, I was living down in Georgia, they on a different wave, we behind the eight ball for real. This one Young Thug had I'm a stoner, I'm a stoner.
Speaker 2:I'm a stoner. Yo, these niggas having fun.
Speaker 5:And I'm like I come back to the city. I'm like y'all niggas overthinking song. My first song I dropped and all that I apologize. What'd you say?
Speaker 3:I apologize. For what? For making them overthink.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 4:That was great. That was a great one. You did, I'm kidding real. When I was rapping though in my time like a rapper, which was not that long ago, you know what I mean State property was the blueprint you know what I'm saying for the city.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Yeah, no, that's what I was just saying. So before Rico and them, mac and them was the blueprint, then after them, they was the blueprint for the DVD niggas. So when the DVD niggas family fade out. Now we had the surges of the Rico Havocs, the Simpsons, it was the only it was Rico that made that whole wave, the Durf.
Speaker 1:If this boy ain't do what he was doing, it wouldn't have been that wave in the city man.
Speaker 2:That's pretty much what we getting to. How long from when you put Lucas out to Mont Brown and Quincy came along?
Speaker 5:Niggas came along right after I think I had like 200,000. Because I started getting emails. I had emails from Young Money. I had emails from I'm like damn, I ain't got no manager. Yeah, so I'm with my homie, Like damn, your cousin be around me. Like he managed me. Like fuck it, you need two, All right. All right, Bob Brown, I don't care, let's just do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember this.
Speaker 5:I'm on some young nigga shit bro, I'm out here like, really like.
Speaker 2:So what you doing that? Because, how I saw it, I know Mont Brown coming up being a rapper, a nigga that always dressed well.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Mont Brown, that's my guy Shout out to the guys.
Speaker 2:That's my guy and then like, when he come along with you, that's when I start seeing him playing the A&R and the executive role. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. To see where he had today is like because they was learning at that time.
Speaker 4:No, we all was learning. It was like it was. It was a conversation that me and.
Speaker 5:Bro had, like you know, like we in this shit, like this all was a learning for everybody. Like we can. And then Quizz had Yack Yola, yeah, so Quizz had Yack Y can. And then quiz had yak yola, yeah, so quiz had yak yola. And then, uh, my has some santana. They got the a? R through columbia that's how they, so yeah I feel like everybody got, they just do like. I even got mine, so like I don't really trip on too much of that.
Speaker 2:Like but that's what I'm saying like look how, look, look how big the record was.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:That is it created a wave. It created a wave and opportunities for everybody around you, not just you yeah. Facts. That's dope Normally. Sometimes records don't get to do that. It's almost abnormal for a record to pop like that regional and then a Mont Brown, come along a Quizzy. Come along a Rico Havoc, come along, you get Mont Brown. You get some Santana, you get Yakiola. So it's like the culture of Philadelphia you got to understand like all from one record.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:No feature.
Speaker 2:That's heavy, and you ultimately come around and then get your deal.
Speaker 5:So how that felt.
Speaker 5:That shit felt good. I ain't gonna lie, I kinda was like my mindset wasn't even really too worried about that shit. That shit happened like everything I thought I've been thinking about so fast that I'm like yo, this shit really possible, it really happened. So it was like I don't know, bro, because I had so much other shit I was dealing with. I don't want to go into depth with that, but sometimes you can miss little moments and sometimes you're not meant to be there and be like and look back and just see what you did Like damn.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I don't know. I can't explain it. Bro, I know where you're coming from.
Speaker 2:You just explained it. Yeah, I can't explain it, bro. I know where you're coming from. You just explained it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I know where you're coming from you really did oh shit, I just explained it. I understood exactly what he said, I know exactly where you're coming from.
Speaker 2:So you know, like it's just man we be in these times, we live in the times. Sometimes we be dealing with things, we cope with things and some things that we deal with we use certain. What you say, matt Leisure, our leisure pleasures, our leisure pleasures. You know, what I'm saying Lead us to a blur sometimes.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying and we just be on the go.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It just be like we from Philly so before anything that happened good to us. Can you imagine how many things bad we had to deal with and cope with to get to that one good thing? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, how about?
Speaker 3:through all the bad Right, like when you look back on it and to see where you was at going through it, and then when you get a clear mind and like, damn, I was right there. Right, mm, right, like I was there. But sometimes, you know, stuff happen when it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's what I believe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I believe that Things happen when it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 5:I feel like everybody. Yo listen, like I said to you earlier, all that trying to figure it out and dissect it fucked you up because you were who you were supposed to be for that moment and you lined that up for that. Why are you trying to go back and trying to figure out what the law decreed and all that? Why are you doing too much? Because you can't go back and do that. You did what you were supposed to do at that moment. I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to tell you. I wasn't sitting down and said I'm going to hit this. They're going to answer my phone call at this time. I'm going to walk to this corner store, I'm going to meet this person. Can't figure that shit out. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5:So when a nigga come up and doing what I did, it's like damn, all right, because I might be doubting myself at one point. Then I got my little. Then I got my little. Then I got my bro that was right there next to me. Like bro, I got this shit. I'm like, and like uh-uh. He like uh-uh. I'm like damn, you just gave me my little juice back. You done filled my cup back up. Seeing what I did to influence you. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Uh-huh, I knew you'd get that out of Skrilla. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:That'd be different, real. It'd be like that, though, bro, because he like when I and bro give me his flowers on everything Like.
Speaker 4:Let me ask you something, though. Like when you was at your highest moment, you ever get a little taste of survival's remorse Like damn, some of the people I want here ain't right here with me of course, man.
Speaker 5:I think that's right, that's a real, that's some real, though like no for real. I think it's it's way more than survival's remorse, man, because survival remorse.
Speaker 4:What you do it for is just one side of the coin.
Speaker 5:And then you got. When you start giving to everybody and just giving away your energy it's deeper than survival With Morris it's like I feel like I don't even deserve this shit. So when you start getting that mindset nah, bro, that was crazy you be like oh, this shit deeper than survival, morris, be like you gotta start tapping back in with Q.
Speaker 4:I need to go home to grandma.
Speaker 5:This really bad, because, nah, you would really start getting yo when God will bless you with that shit. You start giving everything away. You start like that's a deep-end survival remorse. That's like some shit that's internally that shit that you ain't feel as a young boy. So you think giving all that shit going to fulfill you because you feel like you don't even deserve that shit.
Speaker 3:Right, boy that's what you was supposed to do.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly. That's how you cut, bro, when you a giver, it's like that.
Speaker 3:That's how you cut. When you a giver Right, don't feel bad for doing that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, give it.
Speaker 3:No, I ain't never gonna feel bad.
Speaker 4:That's who you is, bro.
Speaker 5:I ain't gonna feel bad at none of that I don't feel bad.
Speaker 3:At least you don't give yourself away yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5:A lot of people get a whole spirit yeah, no, I didn't think I had that.
Speaker 5:I'm never gonna have that problem. No, but when I say give away, what I'm saying like give away as far as energy wise, it'd be like yo, I'm hanging around these, so they got me sitting right here, but I feel like I owe these niggas something. That's what I'm supposed to do, but now who the fuck gonna fill my cup back up? Nobody. Now I'm sitting back getting high with you, fat. Look at that shoe like damn. I had all this opportunity, but I feel like I owed you something.
Speaker 3:Self preservation.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm trying to say? Because it's deeper than that, not everything about, and that's deeper than survival's remorse. No, because survival's remorse For a fact, for a fact. Survival's remorse is like I already made it, it's like nigga, I'm all the way up here and I'm looking down like I'm looking down like I feel bad but I yeah, that's what niggas want though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Niggas want to know, but it's like everybody can't go.
Speaker 3:But that's what you got to put yourself in that position. Like I know me, speaking from experience, like everybody can't go bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:They just can't, and that's why I said self-preservation. That's the first law you got to take care of yourself first Sure. Then go back and be like all right, I'm here, but then that's, you know wherever your ceiling is at Wherever? You're ceiling at. If you hit your ceiling, then you can figure out. All right I can go back and it's like that's like building a house you start from the basement, you can't start from the roof.
Speaker 1:Right, you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean. You can't build, you can't start from the roof. You gotta get the foundation right. You got to In the basement, then you know the first floor, second floor, then you put the roof on Dang. You know what I mean, but we gonna make it.
Speaker 2:We gonna make it yeah, we gonna make it Nah word. So give me, when you going into the process of recording and starting.
Speaker 5:I already did One Way Out Atlantic which kinda like I was out LA Started, was a whole LA bit like All started. You know was out there.
Speaker 3:You know what I like about Rico, though Like about you always. It's never over for you, Never. You know how some people miss they shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, philly Aseya too.
Speaker 4:It's never over for you. I said that about an hour ago. I said you can keep coming out.
Speaker 2:Why you feel like that though. Because I.
Speaker 3:For one, the talent. You created a lane. A lot of people jumped in it, but you still got a lane that people can't get in. Like you can open up multiple lanes. A lot of people like this is what they do. They got that one thing that they doing, that they good at. Like you can do that, you can do this, you can give them that Totally man you can give them this I uh. Like, all like. All avenues, all avenues, appreciate that bro you a hip hop baby man.
Speaker 4:I am For a fact, I am, I am, I'm definitely a hip hop.
Speaker 5:Baby. My mom's listening to Beans and shit and I'll come yo. What man? Yeah Like ah, ah, ah, I come from that. You know what I'm saying and I was just telling them.
Speaker 3:I feel like I'm just like the bridge, but you see that, though, what you just said, everybody looked at us. They probably as the blueprint he come up off of it. It's embedded in him, but he still did his own thing.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:With that anything Because?
Speaker 3:talent is talent. Yeah, that's why they never over for him.
Speaker 4:And another thing. Another thing, though, see, that's why I said I like Rico, because he came up with our era and then he had that 9-2-3 era.
Speaker 5:You know what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying With the dollar boy he had all the bands. And that, right there, crammed together, makes what's going on right now, right now.
Speaker 2:That's a fact Right now. No, that's a big fact First, yeah. And he a fact Right now. No, that's a big fact First, yeah.
Speaker 4:And he a part of it, major part of it.
Speaker 5:First, and then we got the turnt up and I'm just speaking for myself, because let me give myself my flowers too. I'm speaking for this shit. When we was coming out with Lucas, drill wasn't a thing in Philly.
Speaker 5:And I don't never claim my music to be drill. When it came to that Durfee shit, we was the flock. Nobody was doing it. You know what I'm saying. As far as the burrow, oh these niggas guttery, they on this drill, ah ah ah. All this that opened up a lane for that too, though, you get this, you been. Yeah, that opened up a lane for that too, though. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yeah, Dang Like and I remember making you say my rap was real I'm like I ain't no fucking drill rapper.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like, yeah, that shit cool, but I'm not no drill rapper though. Right, right, right. I'm Durfee like I. I do my shit fly Like. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Rico, slave Tell them the difference between drill and derf.
Speaker 5:I mean derf means do you regardless forever as far as like the drill shit.
Speaker 4:it just means like we about to turn this shit on and go tiptoe through your shit. You know what?
Speaker 5:I'm saying I don't make music, I ain't really like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we ain't on that. I ain't what I do it for.
Speaker 5:I come from you know what I'm saying around shit and my uncles is doing life and my homies killed 11 niggas from my second video I dropped died.
Speaker 5:I come from genazes and all that. You think I'm making music to make you niggas want to do shit. No, I'm making music to escape what I'm going through and to touch people. You feel what I'm saying? I don't do it for that. I feel like I got a deeper purpose. I'm not saying you can't do it for your situation, but it ain't me. Don't label Rico under that. Rico, have it why? Because you cause destruction. No, nigga. I always kept in mind what you told me in the studio.
Speaker 4:I always kept in mind what you told me in the studio. Like you said, music can make you do so many things like and you broke it down from dancing to gonna go drill, to go and go hit your wife, whatever like, and it hits you in different parts of your body. You was breaking it down to me that day. I really don't remember, but she was like that's the way you gotta make music, bro bro.
Speaker 2:You got to make music.
Speaker 5:Y'all make people to feel something. Yeah, because we come from soul, so you got to make it that come from the heart.
Speaker 4:What music you came on, Beans? That's what he was telling me.
Speaker 5:Beans, what music did you listen to?
Speaker 1:He was playing in different parts of his body, like in the crib.
Speaker 3:In the crib was playing. What was you coming up off of? So you call my crib. You want to. Teddy p, teddy pentegral, you're going to have michael jackson, patty labelle, the oj's aretha franklin, yeah, and you got mac rapping.
Speaker 5:Now you got mech, but he touch your soul though. Yes, he do yeah, yeah he still touch your soul, though. Yes, he do. Yeah, he still touch your soul. Like you feel what I'm saying. He ain't trying to recreate the will.
Speaker 3:He ain't just like Teddy P, so I get it I get what you saying yeah, if I was a singer I'd probably be like Teddy P he was a G.
Speaker 1:Turn him off.
Speaker 4:Turn him off.
Speaker 3:I'm hard on the G. He was a G. You hear me Uh-huh, yeah, turn them off, bitch.
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Speaker 2:There's haters out there, though. Anyway, there's a bunch of them, man. There's a bunch of them, man. It's a bunch of haters. Man, they eat oodles of noodles. It be going to they brain and shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they got like two outfits in the house and shit Walking around.
Speaker 2:They got like three pair of pants for all four seasons. Man, that shit crazy, because I'm there.
Speaker 4:Fuck it, let's just get down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Can we do fast track with y'all real quick? What is that? Sit down, we need y'all for two more minutes. White Boy kick fast track off. All right fast track.
Speaker 2:It's a game we play on here. It ain't nothing too crazy. I say two things and you pick out of one or the other.
Speaker 2:So, because we from Philly. I always like to start with this, jonah, because Mac, right here, is just making more better right here, making more better. Crazy, let's go being state property of major figures the prop all day. Thanks, let's get it, you guys. State property, major figures? Oh, stay prop, all right. Uh, keisha cole or monica keisha cool. Oh, monica lord baby. Or lord dirt, lord dirt. Oh my god, monica Lil Baby. Or Lil Durk, lil Durk. Oh my God, damn. Go ahead, bro Young.
Speaker 3:Thug or Future, oh Future.
Speaker 2:Damn. You want me to say both Young Thug or Future. Young Thug or Future Whatever you say bro, future, damn Slime, usher. Or Chris Brown, breezy, chris Brown, wow, dipset, dipset. Or G-Unit, g-unit, nah.
Speaker 5:Dipset, dipset, dipset. Nah but I feel like G-Unit had more impact on my childhood. Dipset, dipset, nah, did we talk about 50?
Speaker 1:Who in G-Un G Influenced? Dipset, dipset, all right.
Speaker 5:Nah because.
Speaker 1:I only know, 50.
Speaker 4:50 might be your influence.
Speaker 2:then you know what I'm saying how about O Skrilla OT Sub Iquani?
Speaker 1:Skrilla.
Speaker 3:Kora or Tor.
Speaker 2:Who.
Speaker 3:Kora or Tor Tor, tor Damn Damn, kor Damn.
Speaker 4:Damn man, oh Damn.
Speaker 3:Brain freeze Hold on.
Speaker 1:That was hard.
Speaker 3:KOR or TOR. That's hard for me. Yeah, that's a hard one, that's hard for me, that's hard for me.
Speaker 5:I love saying.
Speaker 3:Like to me. I got a personal joint with KOR because when KOR it was at a time where I was at and when I first started like tapping into KOR, kor made me want to rap again when I was done. Done, damn, that's hot.
Speaker 5:Damn why we ain't doing niggas from other cities, though. Why y'all got us doing niggas from other cities when I was done done. I did, I did, we do other cities.
Speaker 4:We said Slom and Future. We did I'ma do yours Damn.
Speaker 3:That's hard because.
Speaker 4:TOR.
Speaker 5:He said tour, but why y'all got us going to other cities. It don't matter, we doing our part.
Speaker 4:Come on, bro, wait, because what it do is it shine a light on our people, all right back, back, back, regardless. Regardless.
Speaker 2:Who y'all pick. You know what I'm saying. Come on, all right. Who else?
Speaker 4:Come on, man, we got to say K Smith's name one time. What you got for him.
Speaker 2:Alright, hold on, let me do this one. You can't do it now.
Speaker 1:NH.
Speaker 2:Joey Jahad.
Speaker 1:NH.
Speaker 5:I go with Hattie I go with NH.
Speaker 4:That was good. Do one gotta go real quick. We're producers, what's?
Speaker 2:up Producers, othello Swaggiano, who Othellogy on, oh, swaggy on, say that swaggy even fully it four people and one guy all right. So let's go, let's go, and whatever they attach to go to gucci man, yo goddy lord wayne. Gucci man, yo goddy lord wayne, lord wayne. Cheesy and cheesy one gotta go, damn let's go damn you looking in the summer.
Speaker 4:You don't answer that thing, rico.
Speaker 3:I'ma keep it a. I'ma keep it a B.
Speaker 4:You waiting for back to answer?
Speaker 3:No, he came before me. No, I, I know who I'ma say gotta go.
Speaker 5:I know who I'ma say gotta go.
Speaker 3:I'ma say Yo Gotti.
Speaker 4:Young Jeezy, gucci man and Lil Wayne. I'ma say, whoever they sign, whoever they with Everything, whoever they with everything, go Gotti got to go man.
Speaker 3:Hell, no what Yo Gotti got to go.
Speaker 5:Oh, you said, Yo Gotti.
Speaker 3:Yo Gotti got to go.
Speaker 4:Gucci man got too much, gucci got too much.
Speaker 5:Hey, my 217 reposted my music. I can't say he got it God.
Speaker 3:I love you, God, but it's everything I can't say. That's crazy.
Speaker 4:God he made.
Speaker 3:Millionaire too, Jeezy's standing tall on his own yeah.
Speaker 4:He ain't make no millionaires, let me get y'all one.
Speaker 2:Let's go. How about?
Speaker 5:that let's go.
Speaker 1:We got one last one, though, k Glizzy.
Speaker 5:Lord Howard, j Lonnie and Big Bitch's Hero.
Speaker 1:J Lonnie got to go.
Speaker 5:Who got to go J Lonnie.
Speaker 2:J Lonnie got to go. She from Delaware anyway, j Lonnie Damn.
Speaker 5:Shout out to her though it's good. All right, I know who's going to get her up Quill Rich, dollaz Juice outside. And what's the boy that was on in boxing? John who, yo, chubbs, chubbs, fatboy.
Speaker 2:Chubbs. He gotta go. Who gotta go, chubbs?
Speaker 4:Chubbs. And how fucked with.
Speaker 2:Chubbs. I know he gotta go, chubbs gotta go. Chubbs gotta go. Why he gotta?
Speaker 4:go. Because the rest of them, you know the niggas you name, I know you gotta go. All right, let's do the one last. One man, that's the big, all right.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got level.
Speaker 5:All right go ahead, come on.
Speaker 4:Come on.
Speaker 5:I like this, rico Havoc, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Sim.
Speaker 3:Santana.
Speaker 1:D4M.
Speaker 2:Sloan Too Rare One gotta go, too Rare gotta go. Shout out to Rare, though Shout out to all our people. Let's close this out with the big labels, do all the big labels, bro Jay Z. Cash Money Puff Daddy, who else Dr Dre?
Speaker 3:One gotta go. Damn God damn how the fuck you, no, rico, no.
Speaker 1:Aaron, you can't leave from that one man, you can't leave.
Speaker 5:Damn that one. You gotta answer. You can't leave, you want me to say that again.
Speaker 2:So that's Jay-Z, P, Diddy, Dr Dre and Birdman.
Speaker 4:And now you gotta think about everybody they signed. You can't just get rid of them like that. You gotta think about all the people they signed, the people they worked with the records they got. That's unfair.
Speaker 3:You gotta think about it, and when you cut them off you cutting off Mack, if you cut off Ho.
Speaker 2:That ain't never happened while I'm in this room. That can never happen.
Speaker 3:I go crazy if they try to.
Speaker 4:So, Rick, what we doing, Rico.
Speaker 3:Ho ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 4:So is everybody who's in tech with these people got to go?
Speaker 2:Who Jay-Z I used to be quick to say Dr Dre, but I be Dr Dre.
Speaker 1:I watched the.
Speaker 2:Defiant.
Speaker 4:Ones twice and Wayne Wayne Drake, nicky.
Speaker 1:What y'all?
Speaker 4:talking about, y'all talking about this. Listen clearly why y'all asking me this.
Speaker 5:Whoever under these people gotta go, all right. So you saying Dr Dre, tupac, dr Dre 50 Cent. Dr Dre.
Speaker 2:I Cent Dr Dre. I would lean probably towards them two. I would lean towards Dre and them two. I would lean towards Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 5:The reason why I'm Wait, sir, the reason why I'm leaning out of that, john, because I don't know Damn you could do without the West Coast.
Speaker 2:I just don't, I don't go without that. Damn, I don't go without that.
Speaker 4:You could do without the West Coast. I just don't. I just never do that. Too short in all of them, right? Yeah, no, too short, ain't got nothing to do with Drake.
Speaker 2:Damn too short, it would be Snoop. It would be Snoop though.
Speaker 4:Pop.
Speaker 2:It would be Pop to dr dre 50 m and m.
Speaker 4:I mean I'm picking dre me personally I would rate made a whole album, even even though money, cash, hoes and that impact us. Yeah right, you know, dre made some of them holes.
Speaker 5:At least nikki had meek dre made them and like that. You know that.
Speaker 4:You know I can't even answer that one, because you know dre made them hoes beats.
Speaker 2:That's hard right back here Because, you know, dre made them hoes beats. That's hard Right back he made the watcher the watcher.
Speaker 4:That's hard right. He made a couple hoes beats Dr Dre.
Speaker 3:Y'all know too much.
Speaker 4:Hoes wrote for. Hoes wrote for. He wrote for.
Speaker 2:I know all that 2001.
Speaker 4:That's when he got them beats from you I got one, I got one.
Speaker 5:Come on, lil Uzi, uh-huh.
Speaker 4:Cardi, you keep getting up, sit down. I got Lil Uzi. We going to close out.
Speaker 5:Playboy Cardi. Uh-huh, what's his name? Yeet. All right and.
Speaker 4:Ice Spice.
Speaker 2:Ice Spice got it, ice got it, come on.
Speaker 4:You was better off. All right, now I got one for you and I'm putting Ice Spice in there. Glow, sexy Ice Spice. Give me one more white boy Mad.
Speaker 2:No, Mad got gone.
Speaker 4:No, no, no no, no, no, I'm talking about all new Cash Doll.
Speaker 5:Cash Doll got ruined, damn.
Speaker 1:And I'm gone All right, that's it man.
Speaker 5:This the Real of the Most podcast man, shout out to all y'all already Shout out to everybody.
Speaker 2:We said your name, man. It's a shout out, don't take it personally. That means y'all working, yeah, and it's a shout out. That means y'all somebody. It's a shout out, I mean you did.
Speaker 4:We love y'all man the hottest single out right now in the city oh man, oh man Rico, heavy White Dubs, play it, play it, play it, man we not leaving until it come on. Hold on Y'all dragging, you know what I'm saying Connected to the joint. It's on.
Speaker 5:I'm about to play it right now.
Speaker 4:White on white Dubs you listen when I first heard it.
Speaker 3:I'm like yo. I had to track Rico down.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, I'm excited I made you play a jam. That's one of them ones.
Speaker 2:We listening all night too. That's one of them ones.
Speaker 4:Let's go.
Speaker 3:Yo, this shit's so sexy.
Speaker 4:I know I ain't done, but I've got a bird Thinking about the times. You ain't on my word Every time you see it, I don't really hurt. I'm out of here Making mother times. You ain't on my work Every time you see it, I don't really hurt. I'm an authentic. I'm staying alert. I'm not going to go into your face. I've been singing about my baby Brother. The most Share like repost. If you don't, you a motherfucking hater, what?
