Realer Than Most Podcast
Here at Realer Than Most Podcast, we believe that hip-hop/rap is more than just music its a cultured lifestyle, and a way of expressing oneself. we are based out of Philadelphia tri-state area that's why we focus on artist who are not only skilled in their craft but also have a unique perspective and voice. our goal is to provide a platform for these rising stars to share their stories and connect with their fans on a deeper level.
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Realer Than Most Podcast
| PODIN WIT A LIFER | | FEAT D. JONES | | RTM PODCAST | SZN 3 | EP 14 |
D Jones sits down with the Real of the Most podcast to deliver a masterclass in hip-hop longevity and street authenticity that's as rare as it is valuable in today's industry landscape.
The Philadelphia legend takes us deep into his journey from North Philly's Delhond Dolphin neighborhood, where he started as a young T-shirt runner observing the block's dynamics before finding his voice through rap. With remarkable candor, he reconstructs the electric energy of Philly's DVD era – a pivotal moment when raw talent was captured on camera and distributed throughout the city, creating a breeding ground for some of hip-hop's most distinctive voices.
What sets this conversation apart is Jones' profound understanding of his own place in the ecosystem. "I couldn't rap as good as Had," he admits about another Philly legend. "So I had to find what I do. It don't got to be better than what nobody do. It just got to be what I do." This philosophy of authentic self-expression rather than imitation has been the cornerstone of his remarkable staying power in an industry that regularly discards artists after their fifteen minutes.
The most riveting moments come when Jones recounts how his music transcended entertainment to become a genuine force in his community. When Jadakiss came to film a video in his neighborhood, rival factions declared a ceasefire: "The nigga pulled up on me, said yo bro, that shit is off tonight. This is your hood Jones, it's off." Such stories illuminate the real-world impact that authentic artists can have beyond streams and views.
Whether you're a die-hard hip-hop head, an aspiring artist, or simply someone who appreciates stories of perseverance, this conversation offers genuine wisdom about defining success on your own terms. Follow D Jones on all platforms and check out his latest project "Still Counting Blessings" to experience the evolution of a true Philadelphia hip-hop original.
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Speaker 4:Oh man, it's another show man, really the most. They can't stop this shit, you better know it. They can't do this shit, you better know it. Look this core networking Uh-huh, really the most podcast, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:D2A.
Speaker 4:Got white boy D2A. You better know it and we got a special guest today. D2a Got white boy.
Speaker 2:D2A, you better know it. We got a special guest today, very special guest today.
Speaker 4:You want to introduce. Or you want to do a walk down before you introduce.
Speaker 2:We just going to do it the right way, the real of the most way. So I mean today we have Philadelphia's own, one of the top spitters coming out of Philadelphia, been doing it for 20 plus years. Some bro you know, actually one of the pioneers of the DVD era. If you ever heard of Headshots, he's one of the prominent people you know. You fast forward certain people to get to this person.
Speaker 4:Okay, you know what I'm saying you fast forward certain people to get to this person okay, yeah, I'm saying you fast
Speaker 2:forward certain people to get to this person on that okay in that era me personally I mean so, uh, you know, and um, I'm gonna say an innovator. Why? Because before you that that unorthodox flow in our era it wasn't really cool until you kind of made it cool. You feel me? Yeah, today, on Real of the Most, we got D Jones in the building y'all D.
Speaker 1:Jones is in the building, real of the Most, you better know it. I'm happy to be here, man. I appreciate you. That was a hell of a rollout.
Speaker 2:I like that. I appreciate you man, you deserve it.
Speaker 4:I appreciate that Philly man you deserve it.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that Philly man, philly Philly's on and just through your journey and this music thing and just life period, you've been able to hold your name up honorably on that tip and on a music tip. So you know those type of men we commend over here. That's why this shit called Rilla the Most yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I appreciate that, man. What's up with the guys? Man we chilling, man what's?
Speaker 2:up man, how you feeling, cora, how you going today my boy, I'm good man. You got these hoes in the building. Man Coming off your anniversary, you know what I'm saying my boy.
Speaker 4:I'm wearing my towel from out the bathroom.
Speaker 3:Yo, I'm going to set a skate. I'm going to set a skate, you know Yo, like you just said, man D Jones been putting in work.
Speaker 4:Man, you can look back 15 years and go search the product. Man, it's out there. Man, From him freestyling in the DVD era to even him now dropping music, now Current, which a lot of people from the DVD era are not able to do. No diss, but respectfully we giving them his props. Yeah, so go ahead.
Speaker 2:White boy, let's do what you do, okay. So, jones, you know we on really the most podcasts when you from. Tell our guests and our viewers where you from. Let's do what you do, okay. So, jones, you know what I'm saying. You know we on really the most podcasts when you from. Tell our guests and our viewers where you from.
Speaker 1:I'm from North Philly. North Philly, yeah, I'm from Delhond, dolphin Delhond.
Speaker 2:Dolphin.
Speaker 1:Legendary Delhond.
Speaker 2:Dolphin, delhond, dolphin. Okay, you know, we come from those environments where you know, our earlier influences don't be from like TV or like they be like the people that be even in our house or right outside our door, like. Give me a few of those influences coming up early, like.
Speaker 1:All of like the older niggas from around my way, just who?
Speaker 2:influenced you early, before the rappers start influencing you.
Speaker 1:I had older cousins that was into it, so I would see a lot of how they was moving. I had a next door neighbor over my way, jeff Free, big Lads, just a lot of old heads. My old head, ed, was getting to it Weaver from around my way, so I had old heads that I was already. I was a T-shirt young boy, though I had to go get the T-shirt so I was already hit.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you were the young boy. Give me the white T-shirt. Yeah, I was him. I was that as a young boy. Keep the change and all that.
Speaker 3:Yeah and I there.
Speaker 1:That's how I started. That was my first little moves. That's how I learned how to shoot dice, because I would sit around the dice games and watch that. But I'm like what you doing? I'm about to go get t-shirts. Okay, that was my life. So I was there. So I was on the corners watching that shit.
Speaker 4:So yeah, you was more of the observation board. Yeah, you was watching everything and picking up on stuff.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right. So you know you having that, you having those people, that's right there, that's early influences to you and you know we in Philly. So just give me the soundtrack around that time, like what's some of the music that's playing at that time?
Speaker 1:Big. I'm hearing a lot of it's big the figures. Hearing the figures around that time this early Mack this Cosmic Strictly skills thousand bars.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is perfect for me.
Speaker 1:This is when you turning on Kev every Friday. Yeah, you're not missing it. Kev's just going on, he's in the car, he's on, he listening to Kev, this one Kev still giving you street news Bangas. Yes, so this that.
Speaker 3:This, that I'm hearing, that, I'm hearing that.
Speaker 1:This me getting put on the hoes. This is me hearing all that type shit Hip hop. Yeah, like I'm coming outside and I'm understanding why all this shit go together.
Speaker 4:Okay, Now you remember what we talked about last night before we left here right. Yeah, that hit perfect right now, right, so look, let me ask you. You know, this is my memory, right? Rockefeller signing Beanie Siegel, old Skeen, old, young, chris.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:And having them all at the radio station going crazy up the radio station. And right after that I'm not going to get too deep into it, but right after that the DVD era you know what I'm saying when Philly rappers was just going extra, extra hard, like Paul's. But, no, I'm just tell me if I'm right.
Speaker 2:I'm not alright. Go ahead, my boy man you always do this shit.
Speaker 4:Go ahead. I'm speeding now you super. You went 90.
Speaker 2:I was on the highway, alright we gonna do it right then go ahead, man you doing 90 in the right bro, slow down. I thought he was there. No, bro, you see how I'm cooking. Let me do this where we was at you doing 90 in the right bro, slow down.
Speaker 4:I thought he was there.
Speaker 3:No, bro, you see how I'm cooking what he said, what he said. Let me handle this, bro.
Speaker 2:Where we was at. Let me handle this, bro.
Speaker 3:All right, bro, I'm speeding bro Boom.
Speaker 2:This time you know what I mean. Wow Power 99, DJ Cosmic Kev. This is 98, 99,. We ready to go in 2000. This is where you went, how you go from we go from. Power 99, 98, 99, 2000, right to the DVD era.
Speaker 4:So where all the Because? Where Rockefeller Freestyles coming at?
Speaker 2:That's 2001 and 2000.
Speaker 4:Oh, all right, all right all right, you speed, you speed, slow down. What happened in between that?
Speaker 2:We about to get to it. All right, let's go. All right. So here we go. This better be pivotal Now now now.
Speaker 2:Now, jonesy, you coming up, you listening Da Figures, big Early Mac, power 99, street Bangers is going crazy, now Crazy. Now you know what I um power 99, street bangers is going crazy now. Now you, you know, I mean you as the kid running to go get the T-shirts and and you listening to these, these, these sounds, and you hearing this music that's coming out of Philadelphia, like now, like, are you like intrigued at the point where, as though, like, maybe I can do this or you, or you, just a casual fan?
Speaker 1:Lil Jon, no, I'm in it. Rob Markman, lil Jon, you in it. Lil Jon, yeah, I'm the young boy that's writing raps and I got a little book I'm writing raps. My mom finding it, I'm doing all that. Rob Markman, yeah, karaoke machine. Lil Jon, yeah, the only thing, all that, we in the house, we forming our own little groups, we doing all that shit, right, I think the only thing that kind of helped me like my mom was with that shit. She was listening to rap and all that Hip-hop, baby, yeah. So she was like let me hear it.
Speaker 3:Spit that shit, spit it boo, go ahead, boo. And I was like this is crazy Right.
Speaker 1:All right, I kind of was like I was in it for real. Yeah, I knew what I wanted to do. I'm going to do this shit. Ok, something in this shit, I'm going to find a way to do some initiative, right, I just wasn't stepping out with it as much.
Speaker 2:OK, you know what I'm saying. So you just was like doing it, but people didn't know you did it.
Speaker 1:No, no, only people like the few, like the homies. Yeah, when the homies doing it, I might do it. I don't get out of here bro. Right, I used to get that.
Speaker 4:OK, you knew what you wanted to do, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I my approach just was always different from when it was doing. Ok because I was like I was always trying to put something so real in it at the time when niggas was doing the my watch, my watch so bright, the sun is jealous Like when niggas was having bars like that. I didn't have those kind of bars, right, I had more realistic shit and it used to be like mm.
Speaker 2:Okay, where you know this from Mm Okay, so, okay. So that's good to know, because, listen, the next go right, we coming in, we coming into a part where, all right, now you into hip hop, but now you like you rap and now you getting more into like learning the craft of cadences and flows and what you want to say and how important you speaking. So now it's like, okay, I got to be more aware of flows and cadences, but this is early. This is not like it's big.
Speaker 1:That's because it's big.
Speaker 4:I was a, so you was rapping when big was a lot.
Speaker 1:No, I liked how big. Oh, I Big was alive. No, I liked how Big.
Speaker 4:Oh, I was about to say I always liked how. Big rapped, so when?
Speaker 1:I felt like I wanted to be a rapper. It was no other. It was no other like, make, like architect for me to pick but that one like the fuck.
Speaker 4:like he used some pit words again.
Speaker 1:I'ma sit back and I'ma look and be like he used to pick words again. I'm gonna sit back and I'm looking black. I'm a fat nigga Duh. I'm going with the obvious answer. He showed me how to do it already, right, all right, now just do what he did your way.
Speaker 2:Okay, so now. So now, right for Jones. Where do it come, all right? Where do it come All right? Now I'm stepping outside the box and I'm doing this. Where's though, the hood know?
Speaker 4:What year is that?
Speaker 1:01, 02? Because this is what happened.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you was going to get me, look, you saw it, look, look.
Speaker 3:It's like 01, yeah, Look like 01, yeah, Look like 01, 02.
Speaker 1:All right, so go ahead, we coming outside a little bit. The DVD coming though.
Speaker 4:We coming outside a little bit so you were recording what On cassettes, what you doing, we recording on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were on karaoke machines.
Speaker 4:How old?
Speaker 1:were you, we like 12, 13 trying this shit and it's like 01. Had just had came back from California and he rapped Blatantly, he raps. Okay. Now, before he left, everybody was just like Rapping with some regular. He went to California for the summer. When he came back he rapped Full blown yeah, he rapped. So everybody was like we got to rap, we got to step blown yeah, he rapped. So everybody was like we gotta rap, we gotta step out. Man, niggas is writing raps, niggas is trying to write. I gotta write a rap and I probably was the last one to figure it out, but I figured it out. I had to figure my way out from trying to rap. Rock was hot as shit. Head was hot. Rome got a deal with Takedown. This shit is like. These niggas is around my way rapping their ass off. Slaughter Rico is the old head he keeps spinning the block every now and then.
Speaker 1:Him and Hag go battle once a week Like this is what I'm dealing with Slaughter Rico. I'm going to then look from that. I'm learning. I'm getting it All right. I think I got it. I'm getting in a couple of ciphers. I go to high school. I'm in Penn, it's me, it's Dunn, it's Cicero, it's Hollywood. These are the niggas that send my lunch from ciphers. I'm losing you know what. I got a plan. I'm going to step back and I Every fucking DVD that was a DVD of VHS before Bob and not one of them niggas put me on You'll see me in the back. Every DVD had on. That's why niggas used to thought I was like the Adler niggas, because niggas didn't give me the spin. You used to kill that though I had. I learned how to do that for Joe Because with Cicero and him with him.
Speaker 2:But you see, all right, I learned how to do that for Joe because with Cicero and him with it, but you see, but all right. So now we at the end.
Speaker 1:This is 05, 04. This is right before the DVD shit started. Yeah, so I hyped that battle up. We in school, cicero, want to battle me, you know before that is Splipstar, flea for Flea.
Speaker 2:Like you feel me, like you, bored in the hole, ever hyping your mans up, they still do it to this day. Know what I mean? Right, they might grab, grab. You know what I mean Pit bull, you. You know what I'm saying, bro. It's a lot of shit that snapping.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, Bro I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't Bro, I just do that shit bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so where I was getting to.
Speaker 1:Now we here. See see, look, just let him look, just let him do his little segue Now we here, now we here, come on, now we here. So look Now we here. Yeah, baby.
Speaker 3:Y'all boys crazy, yo, you crazy Like.
Speaker 1:We got Bill collecting the building, y'all, y'all see that. That's really my man.
Speaker 4:I've been fucking with Bill forever, Because that affected all of us. We can't sit here and act like Rockefeller on the radio, Philly State property rapping. We ain't go grab them tapes, no we dead Bro hearing.
Speaker 1:Flex, scream he only 16. Crazy, Every young nigga in the city feel like hearing Flex scream.
Speaker 3:he only 16.
Speaker 1:Crazy, every young nigga in the city feel like I ain't hot enough yet I got to get hotter, like it Hearing Chris rap like that, bro look it's all right From that joint. There's moments that I'm never going to forget Hearing that he only 16, when Ose got me running through the aisle fucking my boots up.
Speaker 2:You want to go to war? Call the troops up and when and when and when I'm feeding with the bucket he washed in the coupe, that's up.
Speaker 1:Bro, he went, I got what you need, whatever you want and the chain's so heavy.
Speaker 4:You got to walk with a hunk, bro.
Speaker 2:He was going down Word on the streets.
Speaker 1:I'm still a man. Any rapper you get KC. See me when Free did the. I'm sitting on it dreaming about it. Oh my Bro. We used to walk home from school and argue about who going to be who. My man, be like. No, bro, you'll be Freeway today, you'll be free. I used to be cracking up. I was like yo, this is really a lot of shit, bro.
Speaker 4:Why not hunt a hustler? All that.
Speaker 2:Man them days was the days, but Jones, they met each other that day.
Speaker 1:See on some headshot shit, bro. That's what I'm trying to tell you Like you feel me?
Speaker 2:People don't know that. Everybody think that they walked in there knowing each other. They met each other that day.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to hold you. That just made me more impressed with young Chris Because he was holding niggas down Like he knew they shit forever. Bro, you would have thought they just came from rehearsing this shit. Like yo. I'm going to say these joys tonight. Rob Markman, right, right, right, rob Markman, that was fire, rob Markman.
Speaker 2:And I was getting to.
Speaker 4:now I'm getting to the big star era, rob Markman Right, rob Markman when they on the road and they going state to state cooking. You know what I'm saying. I know if you was in it at that, had was trying to get in it.
Speaker 1:See them days I was trying to like. I always been a song nigga Like for some reason, I don't know, because early on I was trying to follow what Big was doing. I'm trying to make records, Right. So when the DVD shit started I had to like convert it into just being like a 32 with just nothing but bars and animation. So by the time I got on to what they was doing, it was like all right, I got it now.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. It was other little pockets in them, raps that they didn't know how to do. Bro, the Big Dog Yard is a bunch of raps. That's not one rap. I sat and wrote. That's six or seven different raps that I can only remember the pieces Smoke. That shit. I didn't know, that's just my natural go had. It was four to six more bars. When had cut me off, I just went into another rap. I ain't know, I just was doing it.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know Bob liked that shit. I'm like man. Another DVD I rapped for him. They can't go put it out. Bob said yo, you got to come back, you got to do that joint again. I'm like well, he like this shit fucked up. But my whole block love that shit. That's why everybody out there is saying it with me.
Speaker 1:The first time I did it it was too dark, you can't see me. I'm like Bob. I don't know that rap. He I'm like. I don't he like come to my crib. He had me listening sitting in his crib just listening to it. I went outside, everybody was rapping. I'm nervous. I'm like man, this shit ain't he talking about? I know what this is. Niggas be. I do the rap and while I'm doing it I'm like, bro, they saying this shit, it was over. That changed my whole life. I became a rapper, like, oh, I'm a rapper now, this shit gotta make sense. It gotta make sense. Now I was working. I had a job. Then I went to work. That shit was like yo ain't you the boy with the DVD. Yo listen, supervisor lady, I ain't doing that outside work, no more, put me in the back somewhere. She like alright, alright, she took two days. It ain't happening fast enough. I'm out of here. What, listen? I felt like what's her name? Look, here go this vest. Here go your ID. I'll be back Thursday for my check.
Speaker 2:I'm out and my $75 on Friday.
Speaker 3:She like you, serious, I'm out. You cooking me why I'm talking to an old head walk up woman with his boost mobile.
Speaker 1:He got ring ring ring on his boost mobile. He's like I got to get money on this. This is my get money phone, young buck. I said you see what I'm saying and left Mm.
Speaker 4:Mm Been a rapper. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Bro, you know how legendary that freestyle became.
Speaker 1:Bro, you know what I just realized? And Van put me on. I'm the only one on the whole Headshot One that only got one rap Meek on there five, six times. Had on there a bunch of times. Everybody's on there a bunch of times. I got one rap on there One.
Speaker 2:That's how you know.
Speaker 1:After that I charged everybody Once that joint went off, bro, it was charge everybody. Yo, I need you on the DVD. I need a check this shit gonna sell. I'm on it, I need a check. I was getting them, Bro. We was really getting paid to do colleges for DVD versus bro, they was paying us. No, we not spending. We was going college tours for DVD versus by the time we started getting records. We was getting shit somewhere else I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:For DVD versions so look at that time right. Of course you know, we young, we living in it, we not fully understanding what it is. But when you get a glimpse of what you're doing and what it really is, like did you like? Did that make you like you like? All right, let me create a tape, let me do a full tape. Like, what was the process beyond behind you? All right, let me step off these dvds and do a full tape. Your own point, my boy um me getting a deal yeah
Speaker 4:what it wasn't before. That Fuck.
Speaker 1:Everybody was rapping, bro. We all was rapping and going to the studio that's part of being a rapper.
Speaker 2:That's why I love you though.
Speaker 1:Bro, meet, got a deal. Read on fucking on demand with toast to this. Aw man, aw man, I got it. We got everybody turning it up. That's when I got low. All right, let me go figure this shit out. And I was just figuring it out, finding little studios, taking my little bread going, and then it's like what's that? Like 09, reek, when we just started figuring that shit out together, like 08? Reek, pull up on me, like what you I'm with Mook Mook, like bro, you doing all this shit by yourself. Dolo, he like man, get in, bro. We're going to go see Reek. Pull up on Reek. Reek, like what you doing. I'm like this is what I'm doing. This is the music he like when you going to the studio. He like all right, come to the studio, he hear it. He say no a little push.
Speaker 1:You been rocking. That's all I ever had. Just me and him. It'd be me and him.
Speaker 2:But it's crazy because, like all right the shit I've done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the shit I've done without the shit they have is different.
Speaker 4:It's crazy, yeah, but I was all right. But thinking back then, like you put the tape together, release it's fire.
Speaker 2:Snapping and it's been receptive well in the city. It was well receptive Because I like to say that, because sometimes it don't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Your first tape might not catch. Sometimes it don't Might need to do like 10 of them.
Speaker 1:Then another thing around the time I dropped my first tape had dissing me, so it's so much motivation on my tip Me got a deal. My dog dissing me, the other dog's dissing me.
Speaker 2:How that made you feel when he dissed you. That's what I'm like. How did you stop making me feel? That's what made me feel like alright.
Speaker 1:I gotta go now. My plan before was I could put this bitch in neutral. My man, go get us there and then I figure it out. Right, you feel me? So once that shit happened it was like, ah, fuck it, I gotta figure it out for myself you think he had this dude under a pair of pressure of, like that camera always being in his face.
Speaker 4:He probably was in the art and music type time no hold on.
Speaker 1:I think, it was just a moment that they was in.
Speaker 2:How about this, though? Remember, when you first came out, you was D Jones, had hype man, and now, when you're perfecting your craft and as you're getting better, you're being receptive, different in the streets. Now it's like all right, jones, stepping out of being my hype man and actually being Jones DJ. You don't think it was that?
Speaker 1:Rob Markman. No, I don't think it was that type of malice Not towards me Rob Markman, you got too much headset, bro Rob Markman. And I'ma tell you why I don't think that Because we always did our own thing. We wasn't sitting up under each other all day.
Speaker 1:He would call me like yo pull up. I got XYZ going on. Yo, pull up, I'm over here. That's how we met Oskino. He was at a Dice game. He's like yo pull up to this Dice game. Come clean this game up. I pull up to the game. It's O and all the big time drug dealers. I get on. I hit 4-4 up and the heat of the game. I catch four fours. I hit them and leave.
Speaker 1:Me and Obe been cool since then. Old Ayo, you be with my little cousins. Yeah, I'm going to catch your little ass. All right, man, that's fire. So that'd be the shit. So when that shit happened, we would talk, and then it'd be like I'd be like man, that's some rap shit. I get dissed all the time. Everybody diss me. It's the easy shot. I used to let it bother me. Then it realized, like no, they dissing me because I'm the target. This is what they want to do.
Speaker 1:So, once I took that power it was like what you gonna do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so around this time, this is 08, 09 and, uh, you know, dalhan dolphin, you know you you get to be, you get to, uh, you get to meet and build your relationship with east and um, and he's coming down to north philly and you know, be with y'all, chill with y'all. And this is even before the world, even though east yeah, he playing ball then. Talk about that, talk about what happened.
Speaker 1:He's playing ball around that time he coming down with Freaky on the summers. He on the ball team, right Like he outside, but he cool Like you know what I'm saying. All right East. Well, he just daved in. D-boy. At that time, this freaky man D-Boy that comes over. So it's like what's up D. And then it's like no, he nice and ball he, tough he down in Virginia on all this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, league, tough he's tough he on the same teams.
Speaker 1:He's that tough. And then he just was like yo, I rap, I'm like what I ain't fucking ball, I rap, I'm like what. Like I ain't fucking ball, I rap Like you. Serious, nigga you in school, nigga you. He's like I rap, bro, freaky like yo, you got hair Freaky, send me, play me something. Like tell him to send me something. He sent me a song called Polito. We do that. You come to the city, we lock in down, jazz you up shit. Just before. I don't know if it was Teefee's then, but Rob Markman took him to 16th.
Speaker 4:Fantastic, yeah, that's where.
Speaker 1:I was recording at with my homie Wally. We was recording there. I can tell you, we go down there, we lock in, we grab two Rob.
Speaker 2:Markman Wally.
Speaker 1:Wally. All bangers yeah, all bang beats. Off a bunch of his fucking beats we record all weekend down there After that it was just up it started happening fast. It seemed like it was happening fast for him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. 3 years after Massive Bill come along, I could see you saying that, because he really just stepped out rapping yeah.
Speaker 1:But look, he was working. Yeah, that was the thing we we in Philly. We just we don't got no labels and we ain't had no artists.
Speaker 1:We ain't had no resources here to know how to move first of all. So we coming off DVD shit, we just figuring this shit out, we just really copying what we see the next nigga doing. So that's why when you see, like bro, it was a period when Meek got on, that's when you were hearing it, you got Meek Mill's beat. That's where the tight beats come from. If you ask me Niggas looking for that, Like trying to find the bounce.
Speaker 2:What was the sign? Y'all at that time, like 51? Bro all the labels was here, bro, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:It was just niggas ain't know what to do with it. Niggas was getting calls they ain't even believe. Niggas was getting calls they ain't believe about. Bro. Niggas was like motherfuckers was calling Bob's phone. He thought niggas was playing on his phone. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Bro, we ain't know this shit was happening, bro, shit crazy.
Speaker 2:We was in it.
Speaker 1:We was kids in it. The oldest one of us was 24 at the time. We was just doing that shit. By the time we figured out how to do the structure, it was over. Yeah niggas got kids Niggas start.
Speaker 2:Getting kids Niggas start getting cases.
Speaker 1:Niggas start getting deals.
Speaker 2:Just coming home.
Speaker 1:It's over what we doing. Shit Philly crazy.
Speaker 2:It was nutty Ph. But wow, philly is wow. But look, that's, that's crazy. And the special thing about you is right, you've been able to be jonesy through everything. That's why I'm like this boy is just he, he, resistant. Now I mean he is like you, figure out dope ways to reinvent yourself and come out now. I mean because, all right, you, me and east man, we, in a time of y'all was, y'all was youtube, darlings, y'all was the first people actually watching on youtube. After After that, now we have the, the more structured putting out tapes beats just not doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just not putting out anything, because now I'm more focused on my brand and actually what's going on with the structure and how I got things so, like you've been able to, like, travel your way and try, like to go through all of it, learn your journey. It still rap at a high level. Got to commend you in that, you know. I mean you know, you going through your journey. Just just talk about, like, how hard it is to stay ambitious and motivated in this game, especially coming from where we coming from.
Speaker 1:That should have break you. That should have break you because the list of I can do it like them, don't go so far. And then the higher it up, the thinner it get. So you got to think like if you from New York, y'all got 10 niggas, that's that nigga, and at one point was him that y'all can pick from 20. 20. But you on point, we got five, we got three. Three, if you don't want to count the women.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got three and two possibles.
Speaker 1:You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I'm with you.
Speaker 1:So it's like you got to see it already. Like yo, bro, this is what we doing. However, we got to do it. I can't do it. I couldn't rap as good as had. You feel what I'm saying. So I had to find what I do. It don't got to be better than what nobody do. It just got to be what I do. I just got to master what I do. You feel what I'm saying? Being around East I don't have the other resources or I'm not East, east, walk in 6'4" light skin. He's still in already. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:He's still in already.
Speaker 2:He's still in already To the maximum capacity.
Speaker 1:And he can rap Light skin niggas. I don't have that, but what I do got I maxed Right. You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:And when I'm around you.
Speaker 1:I don't want nothing from you but to win, that's fire. That's why he, my man, because I don't ask him for nothing, but yo, I'm coming on this tour, yo I need this verse, and that's why you able to play your role and be where you at.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you feel me. That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Right. So it's like I always just figured that part out. Like everything else you try to do is hate for real, for real, like your man on and you trying to figure out how to be better than your man or trying to step with him. Yeah, you hate him, bro. Let that nigga shine and you go get yours. It's go, it's go. Now there's times when my homies be like yo, that's a whole topic right there.
Speaker 1:There be times when nigg he's like yo, you too fallbackish. I ain't saying OD, but go stand on the couch where you belong. Right, I be smoking in the corner with these niggas laughing and joking, Bro. Why you with us? We?
Speaker 3:got up there. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 4:Like you know what I'm saying, so it be like Down to earth, chill fallback, cool kind of collective dude, but I know who I am?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm cool with that, Right. When it's my night I'm up there. It's not my night, Right?
Speaker 4:I mean I could go out there and get a little light, but it ain't my night. I think you got to be in this shit that. No, like certain people, don't they not in it so they don't know how to move right with this shit. Like certain things you don't do you know what I'm saying. Like you got gotta let your man shine if if that's his. You know what I'm saying this is night every dog got their day right.
Speaker 2:So so with with what you having like um, you know you're saying he's come, he signed his deal. Mads, appeal, right, I'm gonna keep it real. He's one, he's different. I respect eason and shout out to east because he came in he came in on some different shit. He got signed by Massapelle and Dove Jam in the same year.
Speaker 1:That was hard he a ill nigga that was hard.
Speaker 2:How you do that. How you do that.
Speaker 1:My dog came in different bro.
Speaker 3:Nah, I ain't gonna be cosigning niggas, my dog came in and he's still stepping bro.
Speaker 2:So you being a witness to that and you understanding what that is and you know, like you coming along and re-insurges of Jonesy and the lifers Talk about how that came about, you know, I mean, like you turning it over and making it that.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, because I didn't even know I was doing that shit until it was happening. All I knew, all I knew was all right, I rap, you need something else with rap. So I'm starting my merch. So I went and got some shirts done, just some shit. I said this shit in a rap. I live a lot of life. I just put it on a shirt, then niggas just start buying them A lot. And Then niggas just start buying them A lot and then niggas just start saying oh, look at the life of niggas.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of us and it's like, oh, oh, that's who it is. Yeah, oh, I bet.
Speaker 3:I'm running with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Then I looked up and motherfuckers would think I would stop rapping. No, I just ain't have time, bro. That shit was dumping I'm talking about. I'm dumping these shirts. I'm going this one bo dick and robes. Pause the up the boulevard. They got the shirts.
Speaker 1:I'm up there four times a week right there like big box cut the light off I'm up there four times a week getting the big boxes like and these is flying, so it is flying. So it was like all right, I was making the money. I'm like, oh, all right. Then, once I got back in the rap, it was like all right, I know who my fans is.
Speaker 2:And it's crazy because now you Voltron'd it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You Voltron'd it Right, you know what I mean, and it's like you branded it and now you got your core following and think about it like styles. This is the same as Mm hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean with the Mm hmm, Come on skate.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm, mm hmm.
Speaker 2:I mean. So it's like OK, jonesy Mm hmm, yeah. I like that, then, then, let alone. All right, you do, you got that. You got that, bro. You got that. Come along now Kiss, come along, come on Talk to me about that man? How? How do the lifers and and d block and a lot. How do that? How did that come along, man, so raspy and all that?
Speaker 1:so I was um, oh, I just came off tour. I went on tour with east, just came back off tour, I think I was just outside. He would pull up to the block. Uh, he pulled up to the block to kick it with O'Hare Yacht. That's his man. That's how I meet him through Yacht.
Speaker 2:Okay, Shaw, Yacht yeah that's my OJ.
Speaker 1:He'd have him come down. He's got like a show. I think Pottstown, I think that's where it's at. So I pull up and we just chopping on the block. He knew of me and that kind of like he was like no bro, we used to watch y'all niggas and you know, I had a hat up there, so I know who you is. Rob Markman yeah, made it a little easy to break the ice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like all right, so we chopping.
Speaker 1:Then he like yo come to the show. Rob Markman, right, I'm like all right, I'll pull right up, go to the show with Louie. After the show we chopping it, we go to the wheel to play music, me and Lil V playing some music free. Lil V, I plug in, I play like two, three joints. He like hold up. He called Kate, I think it was. Who was it? No, I'm sorry, it was C's and Big.
Speaker 1:Son. He was with C's and Big Son that's who he was ruling with that night. He called them down. It was in a hotel. He came out. He's like yo, play them Jones, again, play the same Jones and then keep going. I play the same Jones. C's looking at him like yo bro, sound like bro, and right then. And there I'm like yo, bro, sound like bro, and right then. And there I'm like I don't give a fuck. What else happened tonight?
Speaker 2:See I said this shit's over.
Speaker 1:We can wrap this night up.
Speaker 4:I'm ready to go home.
Speaker 1:He's like yo what you doing, I'm like, I'm just doing it. He's like you ain't.
Speaker 1:I'm like no, he's like yo take my number, Give me the number, never call. I ain't called Kiss for like months. I ain't want to call and it be the rapper, hollywood rapper. Shit, funny number, don't answer, spin me. So I just was like I'll run into him again. Torn with these, torn with these. We wound up going across seas, tore across seas, for a couple months. Came back, had a show in New York and the locks was on it with him. As I came off stage, kids pulled me to the side Yo, what's up? I'm like oh, this is serious.
Speaker 4:I'm like yo I called you.
Speaker 1:You're like man, what's the number? And then he called me. He's like yeah, now I might have missed it.
Speaker 1:I'm like all right, all right. And it was up from there. He called East, like yo, what's up, you're Jonesy, your artist. He's like oh, that's my friend. He's like what Like who? He signs, he's like by. And then he called like yo, what's up, pull up. I pulled up and just started figuring that out. Like the first that happened in covid, though, so it kind of cooked us like we had to. Like that's when the world dropped and covid happened. So it was like you still got the.
Speaker 2:Uh, I got the video. You still got the video off in the hood, bro.
Speaker 1:I ain't calling nobody but this nigga bro. I ain't post that shit. I don't know where the fuck all the people came from that shit was rolling.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. Look, I talked to Kiss that morning. He like you know, I'm about to come up there. I'm like all right. He like yeah, no, I'm about to come up there. I'm like all right. He's like well, we'll be shooting. And I'm like I thought I was going to come up there. It says both of y'all in New York. I'm trying to make this shit as easy as possible, yeah to go through.
Speaker 1:Yeah. He's like, no, I'm coming down. I'm like, well, this shit for real. So that whole day I'm just bitching for real because I'm like there's a lot about to be going on. Yeah, call the videographer, niggas. They like, yeah, we on our way. I'm like, all right, that's straight, that's cool. The artist coming, the? I can't find him though. I don't know where. Reek at, I don't got it. Mind you, this is my barber too. He rallying the troops, he going to do everything In his mind. As long as I get there, he's straight In my mind. Nigga, let's get this shit out the way. I can't find this, nigga. I called him about a thousand times.
Speaker 2:He answered the phone. When he did, he said he's sweating like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1:When he did he said where you at man. I'm like, bro. I'm on Darwin Street. Come on, bro, we about to shoot the video tonight. Bro, is everybody there? I'm like everybody here.
Speaker 4:He calmed up he calmed up.
Speaker 3:I'm as a motherfucker bro, I'm tweaking out bro.
Speaker 1:Bike. I'm out to shoot the video. I'm going to go get my bike. Homies. I'm like all right, yeah, this shit was turning all the way up.
Speaker 1:Damn bro, it was just like first. It was just drug dealers, bro, like drug dealers that don't even be outside. When I start seeing that like random little, like I'm like, oh bro, them niggas don't even be outside, like this shit lit don't even be outside. Like this, you let me put the G's out, it was on. Then the girls start pulling up. It was so mean. Yeah, he's out there, rose. Like yeah, I came here, bro, it's about 100 people outside Video star.
Speaker 1:you know you in it. And then it's a part we like stand on the step. That's when I seen him like oh know you in it. And then it's the part where we like stand on the step. That's when I seen it.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh, we got it rolling off, this motherfucker. You couldn't see no street, it's just people.
Speaker 2:Shut your hood down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, then they like yo, we going to the gas station to shoot. Part two, the second scene, that's when I, you couldn't tell me nothing in the hood. After that you couldn't tell me nothing in the hood after that. I got free weed for about six months. From there, everybody yeah everybody walking, bro. See, I'm one of them. Still, bro, who you is in your hood, like I love that?
Speaker 4:what's your hand like in your?
Speaker 1:hood bro, I don't give a about the net, we can fake it on the neck, you turn your head up.
Speaker 2:We can fake it on the net. Like that. We can get on the net and I can act like.
Speaker 1:I'm something that I'm completely not and I don't never got to see y'all. I can go to work and just fake it on the net, but I'm outside. And when you outside, you got to find out like, what your hand is. Can I be with you in your hood? No question, we have no security. It wasn't I'm talking about. It was niggas with war out there. The nigga pulled up on me, said yo, bro, that shit is off tonight. I'm like what? Like it's off tonight. This is your hood Jones, it's off. I'm like oh, this shit different, oh this shit different. Now, they couldn't tell me. They couldn't tell me, Bro, they couldn't tell me nothing, bro, Like what you going to tell me.
Speaker 1:bro. I just walked 400 people past my grandma, my grandmama and grandmama in the door like what the hell going on? It's my video pops. She like oh, I'm like, look there go Jada Jada room walking. We walking, it's kind of dark around there until you get to the gas station, kind of Cool. Yeah, niggas up there at the gas station having a ball, Every old hand that yo, jonathan, come here, yo kiss, it's my old hands, man, they just want to meet you. Man, they been listening to you since 9-5 or some shit.
Speaker 4:That felt good, felt good.
Speaker 1:Them the stripes that feel good. Yeah, yeah. Shorty, around my way, pressed me every day about East. Come here. He right here Now. Tell him Walk off. I'm smiling like yeah, it's a video, I got a clip, I'm going to show you all. I'm smacked they playing a song. I'm minding my business. I'm just dancing my little heart out in the corner.
Speaker 1:But like it felt good, like for that one night, that moment that one night everything was good because of me. Like, bro, it ain't been one night, yes, it has. Outside of like when my block do Freaky Day and when I have my life for cookouts, bro, everything else around there, that shit be in the short, that shit get cut short. So it feel good. Like damn bro. I hold that much respect. I'm cool with that. I don't give a fuck if it's hate or love. You respect me enough that night to like and that shit count. You earned that. You put the work in for that that shit count.
Speaker 2:And that was some legendary day. Boy E's boy Kiss to the Hood. Chris popped out for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, chris popped out for him. My man, gunna, popped out. That was the cool part, that was fire. Gunna stayed all night.
Speaker 2:So like now now. Now, now you like all right?
Speaker 2:big dog fucking man at a high level man, that's my man, that's gonna play me man, I can't wait till he come sit down. That's my man for real, gonna, gonna. So he, that boy man, he's special. So it's like you even like being around like a gun all the time now and like you having them, you know, having your pen up there, like was that? Like was that like a thought process thing, like no, I really got to get my pen on that level, like I'm from where. It's like you know what I'm saying and we just at that time talked to me, did you not?
Speaker 2:hear what I said earlier. Yeah, I want to hear it.
Speaker 1:Jay-Z said that he was only 16, bro, when we was like 16,. I'm looking at this, bro. I'm always going to be a fan. I'm going a fan as much as Gunna is my friend this is my friend.
Speaker 1:We call and joke and this is my friend, I'm also a fan. Like when Gunna drop, I want to tap in, I'm going to listen, I'm going to call Yo you coming. Same thing with East. If you hot, I'm a fan. I don't give a fuck how much of a you're, I'm your friend, but you also hot, bro, that girl record that they got on.
Speaker 2:They new shit, whoa.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give you your flowers even more because you my friend, but like I don't know, I respect it.
Speaker 1:Them niggas be talented man and I appreciate it. It's hard to listen to like you ever had a friend that wasn't a good rapper. Yeah, it kind of fucked your friendship up, bro, if you think about it. Bro, at some point you're like I ain't going to keep mine bro, yeah. And then when you do tell him, it's like appreciate you. It's like man, is you telling me this? Why? You? He could take that two ways Like bro, why didn't you tell me I was corny? You let me waste all this time and money.
Speaker 1:Or you can take it as like, yeah.
Speaker 2:I needed that.
Speaker 1:Or you can take it all like all right, good looking bro.
Speaker 2:Let me step my shit up. You know what I'm saying, Right?
Speaker 1:All right, so I'm that.
Speaker 2:You even doing that. Then you just did this legendary move with you Kiss Mac, the first AI verse from Mac and K Gibbs on the ad-libs and hook, like how that? Like, come on man. Like you doing the come on man. Like, come on, talk to me about these plays that you like. You vision these joints or like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, I lie to you, not, bro. In my mind, this is the type of shit I say All right, big guy, I'm never going to get a verse from big. I the type of shit I say, all right, big guy, I'm never going to get a verse from Big. I could get a Kidz verse one day if I work hard enough. I could get a Ho verse one day. If I work hard enough. I can get a Beans verse one day if I work hard enough. These is niggas that I aim to do music with. It's like all right, ho retired, I might not ever get that Ho verse.
Speaker 1:Damn, but if I might still get these two. Then I got the kids verse. I'm signing the kids. It's like, oh bro, so I could get this Mack verse. Then it's like Mack might retire. It's like I'll never go get it. Then he pulled up on me one day. We had a show. I'm at their show. I just pull up on my regular kids, say he got a show, I'm coming. This shit in VA, Hit my man. Yo, come on, Take a ride to VA, we out, I do that. I do shit like that Shit. I made some bread. You out, we out, Sure VA. You never know what's going to happen when I walk through this door. I don't know the play that's going. I'm going to walk through this door. I walk through the door, I run into a Mac Mac. Yo, bro, let me give you your flowers real quick. I understand why I can't sign you bro. I'm mad that I wasn't hip sooner. Now Gunna and they telling me like and I'm tuning in.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm like damn, you hear it. And it's like, damn, that's great. Then I drop a tape not too long after that and Mack walk in and stay. I'm talking about my listening party. Three, four hours. I'm going to play my whole tape twice. I'm going to play some exclusive shit. I'm going to pass the arcs. Mack stayed for all that.
Speaker 1:Bro, niggas, don't be doing shit like that, bro. Bro, I threw a fucking concert at 923 because I used to party there. I'm like it's lit if I can throw a show there. I brought East, I brought Kiss, I put the TV, I put Magic in them on the show, I put Ness on the show. This is what I do. This is just who I am. I sold out 923. To me that's a trophy. You know how much money I spent in that club, how many weekends I spent in that club. I went back and sold it out. That's fire to me. I had Kiss in 9-2-3. That is fire to me, bro. Yeah, that is fire. You feel what I'm saying. That's the shit to me. Them trophies, them the trophies I got. I might not get a Grammy no time soon, but I did that. That's live to me. Yeah, that's fire. You feel what I'm saying? My passport got multiple stamps just for rap. That's fire to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, you know where these niggas had me at on the list.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, if we go back 10 years from today and they say, philly, all of them, I'm going to be so low on the list. Not even because they just don't think I'm talented. They list not even because they just don't think I'm talented, they didn't care. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't in the circles to care. When I was in the circles to care, I was up there. You know why, though?
Speaker 4:Yeah, because I wasn't in the circle to care why they can add that one verse. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying, but you've been putting that work in man.
Speaker 1:That's why we got you up here to give you these flowers, man. I appreciate y'all, man, but look before you go.
Speaker 4:We definitely got like two games to play real quick. Break down the games, white boy.
Speaker 2:All right. So the first game is Fast Track. It's where I name two things and you just pick one or the other. Nothing too crazy, we from Philly, so I always got to start with this one.
Speaker 1:State property of major figures. I got to say state property, okay. Okay. I got to say the property, ah shit.
Speaker 4:Shit. You just said one Before 01, it was the major figures. But look, this is what I'm saying. This is what. But look, this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:This is what I'm saying. Hear me out, hear me out. And my man Jeff, say this all the time I heard majority. If you a Philly nigga, you heard majority of these niggas on figure tapes first.
Speaker 4:Yeah, every single one of them.
Speaker 1:I heard Chris on the figures tape first.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or the figures probably gave them a feature, some shit like that.
Speaker 3:Like only ones. I don't think. I is like maybe Owen.
Speaker 1:Sparks yeah, but like you know what I'm saying. So it's like you can't, like you can't not, but the prop. What the prop did took the city further. You know what I'm saying. It was at a moment where we needed the prop. That's all we had.
Speaker 2:And they held it. You know what I'm saying. Okay, that's cool, all right, lil Baby, lil Dirt.
Speaker 1:Lil Dirt.
Speaker 2:Skrilla, OT7, Kwani. I knew you was about to say that.
Speaker 1:I personally like Kwadi.
Speaker 3:But I like Skrilla.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go Skrilla, okay Kor or Tor Kor Enes or Kree Forge.
Speaker 1:And what are we asking about them?
Speaker 2:ENS or preform.
Speaker 1:Sure, I got it. I think that might be the hardest.
Speaker 2:Enos Creep, for I'm a go that one before that was a good.
Speaker 4:You ain't never say that.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm gonna take my shit, you ain't never say that.
Speaker 4:I said that I'm taking my shit, man.
Speaker 2:Damn bitch. I'm glad this on camera.
Speaker 1:You can steal it man E-Ness of Cree Forge is real. I'm going to go Ness, I'm going to go Ness, I'm going to go Ness why. I just did a record with Ness.
Speaker 2:A banger, A banger Shout out to Forge man Stay put.
Speaker 1:Bro me and Forge got a banger Bro. That was rough. My answer was only based off who I did the latest record with, because I was stuck.
Speaker 2:That was harder than any other. How about this one? Nh or Vodka, nh or Vaca NH. Rob Markman, bill Collector, or T-Rock T Bill Collector.
Speaker 3:Rob Markman, bill Collector T-.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Rob.
Speaker 1:Markman. I like Bill over everybody, just about T Bill, that nigga Rob Markman. Only time I ever went against Bill is when he battled Still on the come home draw and it wasn't even like a go against him, I was just rooting for Still. So much that's my guy and he had just won. But I like Bill over everybody.
Speaker 4:He don't do no wrong in my eyes, you can't go against Bill man. You can't, you can't, keisha.
Speaker 2:Cole. You're another ass nigga Keisha Cole or.
Speaker 1:Monica, keisha Cole or Monica. Yeah, I'm going, keisha Cole, she outside.
Speaker 2:Tyrese or Tank.
Speaker 4:Damn Reed. That was a good one. He calling for help, he calling for help. He, like you, know all the R&B songs, yeah don't call me, not them, tank, tank, tank Wait.
Speaker 1:Tank. What we basing this on? Don't Tank sing better than Tyrese? Tank, tank, tank, wait, tank. What are we basing this on? Don't Tank sing better than Tyrese? He don't Fast and the Furious Tyrese.
Speaker 2:All right this is the second game. One more, all right, no, a couple more.
Speaker 4:Do a couple more. I'm going to do like three. I said Tyrese or tank, go ahead, cam or Jim, cam or Jim yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, he burns me out. Man man, dipset or G-Unit.
Speaker 1:Ooh Can I answer the Cam or G-Unit?
Speaker 4:No. Dipset, I tried to do you a little. You could have easily did that one.
Speaker 1:I know more Dipset music than I know G-Unit music. Yeah, I do. I know way more Dipset music than I know G-Unit music. Yeah, I'm going to go.
Speaker 2:Dipset Dave East or Joey Jack.
Speaker 4:You ain't seen no down south people or nothing.
Speaker 1:East ahead and what I said?
Speaker 4:a little baby Damn. Oh yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:That's a dumbass question.
Speaker 2:Dave East or Joey Jag, that was just fun, that was funny.
Speaker 4:That was good, that was good. No, you can't Come on, man Hattie dissed you bro. Davies ain't never dissed you bro. He ain't never dissed you bro. Like no Hattie.
Speaker 3:The real of the most podcast man.
Speaker 4:If you don't care like, subscribe comment If you don't care, you're a motherfucking hater.
Speaker 2:Why? Because it's free. Y'all already know you didn't play the last game. All right, this is the last game right here. This is called One Gotta Go. I'm going to name four artists, or whatever they may be, and you pick one to go. When they go.
Speaker 1:They hold everything, they just go.
Speaker 2:Anybody that fall under them, go they just go. Rob.
Speaker 1:Markman, it never happened. Rob Markman All right, let me just do like a, so say if you like the Magixx or the Bulls and I'm like the Bulls got to go, rob Markman, everything done, rob Markman. So that means save you like the magics or the.
Speaker 4:Bulls and I'm like the Bulls gotta go. Everything done, I mean George or he never wins everything.
Speaker 2:All right, let's go this one right here.
Speaker 1:Y'all got bad people in this, so it make it easier, like we got school.
Speaker 2:Yo Gotti Lil Wayne. Yo Gotti Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1:Gucci man Lil Wayne. Yo Gotti Lil Wayne Gucci Mane. Jeezy one gotta go. Lil Gotti Lil Wayne Gucci Mane.
Speaker 3:Jeezy Alright alright.
Speaker 1:Alright, it's harder to, it's more difficult to start with them. So alright, ah, shit, I need Jee. Oh shit, I need GZ. I need that shit. And Wayne Wayne's always drizzly and Nicky, I don't know if I need that tiger shit, but I need a little I might go without, not not in the distance. I got to try this, not not in the distance.
Speaker 3:You got to join us, guys, a bit your God.
Speaker 1:He got Gloria. I can't go without Gloria. That's my home. Do all that shit count? Gucci, be fucking with the bigos, and all that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I would count that all he had the story I used to go to for all yeah, I ain't. I would count that he had the studio they all used to go to first.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I ain't gonna hold you, bro. It might be Jeezy, because I don't need none of them pull-ups and all though Jeezy might. I might go without Jeezy, though, because my president is black, bro. Look how much other shit I can keep.
Speaker 2:I know right.
Speaker 1:He don't come with, he don't got no extras If I pick Wayne I lose Some people be like.
Speaker 4:all I need is Jeezy.
Speaker 1:See, look, I'm not picking Gucci over Jeezy, but I'm picking the shit that comes with Gucci over.
Speaker 2:Jeezy.
Speaker 4:Like who.
Speaker 1:Thug Migos, all that shit. Nicki Minaj, All that shit come from his umbrella. So it's like, ah, what you got for me. Right, and there's a couple 101s and all those. That's good, but I could get some trap from Gotti.
Speaker 2:You feel me, I can get the trap from Gotti.
Speaker 4:All feel me I can get the trap from Gotti All day long and he got Glorilla and Gotti got.
Speaker 1:Glorilla too, so it makes it work who you go with. So I'm a, I'm a huh who, you go with.
Speaker 2:One gotta go. Jeez, you gotta go. All right, all right, all right, let's do this one. All right, all right, all right, let's do this one, let's go. Lil Baby, lil, durk, slom and Pluto, One got to go.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Lil Baby Durk Slom Pluto Free, Bang Gang Free, the Bang Damn.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. All right Future. Don't go, damn that's crazy. All right Future. Don't go, damn Dirk, don't go, damn that's the king of drip bro.
Speaker 4:You going?
Speaker 1:to get rid of Lil Baby. Yeah, lil Baby can go, damn.
Speaker 2:All right, how about this?
Speaker 1:And that ain't in the disrespectful Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2:How about this?
Speaker 1:I like ain't in a disrespectful way, Hold on hold on, hold on hold on. How about this? I like everybody, I like Drew.
Speaker 2:Hill All right One twelve Jagged edge Joe to see one got to go.
Speaker 1:You said, drew him. Jagged edge, joe, to see one twelve One got to go Drew Hill, jodeci 112.
Speaker 2:One gotta go Drew Hill.
Speaker 1:And Jodeci Cannot go. Jodeci is my whole Young boy Coming up, you hearing those records and KC and JoJo. It's just too much If they go off the list. Martin can't do that episode and that's one of my favorite Martin episodes, so they can't go nowhere. If I take Drew Hill off, that means the thong song didn't come out.
Speaker 1:Drew Hill can't go nowhere, so now we just down to Peaches and Cream and Jagged Edge. Ah yeah, by one 12. Jagged Edge got more, got more. They got promise. Yeah, cupid, though, just as he white boy, you Shit Is. See, white boy, you ain't Damn Shit, damn, that's it, that's it. Yeah, they Peaches and Cream, and Cuba is where the bucks kind of start slowing up.
Speaker 2:Anywhere.
Speaker 1:See it starts slowing up Anywhere, and then it's like Only you.
Speaker 4:See, see, I got one for you too after this. This is a good one. Damn, this is going to be a cooker All right, I think he ain't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:112? Jagged Edge no see, it got to be 112 off that list because everybody want to get married to a Jagged Edge.
Speaker 2:So it got to be 112.
Speaker 1:Yeah they got the most. They got the wedded songs yeah, they do. I kicked them off my list. Now nobody getting married. Everybody getting married to the funny stuff. 112.
Speaker 4:Everybody getting married to the funnies, though, then 12.
Speaker 2:Then, they get the biggie shit though.
Speaker 4:Only you Shoot your shot. All right, you ready, you go ahead this one, you going at the. I mean, you're right, beans, jadakiss, dave East, young, chris, one guy to go.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 4:Damn that's a cooker. Damn E's got to go though what.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry E, I can't Look See. Look See, Hold on. Let's look at his dynamics and how he break it down. If I wipe these off, there go that funk flex verse that I cook.
Speaker 1:They go whoa, so E's can't go nowhere for personal reasons. Damn Not to mention that's my man. But verse that I cook, they go whoa. So E's can't go nowhere for personal reasons, damn, not to mention, that's my man. I got some personal things that I might got to be gonna. Ah, just for personal reasons only it could be gonna, because you still got Matt. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It might got to be gonna because he's still around. He's just not around Like, ah shit, that's what I'm saying. It might got to be Gunna because he's still around, he's just not around I cannot look.
Speaker 3:Look at what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Look at what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I can't say kiss, you're going to get rid of Gunna's whole legacy. Get rid of Gunna.
Speaker 1:No, it's not like that. I can't Look.
Speaker 4:We're just going to get rid of everything. Listen to what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:If I cancel Mack, I cancel all that shit, a lot of that shit, so I can't cancel.
Speaker 1:Mack, all right, I can't cancel. Kiss the fuck. I cancel myself. I can't cancel East because I cancel myself.
Speaker 4:So it's like Gunna gotta go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, damn Gunna, that's cool. Not like that though no, no, it ain't never like that. I'ma just. Yeah, he like a heavy spitter. It ain't never like that, shout out to Gunna man Hold up All right this the last one Chill, it's cool. This the last one Don't even worry about it.
Speaker 4:This the last one.
Speaker 2:Drink your water real Jay-Z Diddy Birdman, Dr Dre, One gotta go, it's not personal bro, don't think of his court case Music oh bro.
Speaker 1:All right, I ain't gonna man Fuck that. All he did was do some wild shit. I know a bunch of niggas do some wild shit.
Speaker 4:Yo, he does some wild shit, that's all he did. He just got wild. We're going to think about his music legacy right now. No, that's all I got. So one got to go music-wise. We're going to talk about their legacies Jay-Z, dr Dre, diddy and Birdman. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Questions like these, you guys just give me a personal Uh-huh, Because other than that you're going to be stuck. So what do?
Speaker 2:I need. That's how I carry it. What I need than that you're gonna be stuck. So what do I need? Like that, that's hot, that's all right. What I need, what's in my? What can I go have? What can I maybe go without? I don't have.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think how many times I jump in the wheel and go west coast. Drape influence, not, not not.
Speaker 4:Don't think about 56.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying I'm thinking about that'm thinking about that because once I wipe them, I got to wipe everything that they sign, so it's like I can't wipe the power to all that. I cannot wipe Diddy off of nothing. No Diddy, whatever, I'll let it go if that's what it is. You can't Bad boy bro.
Speaker 4:That's crazy, that's too many people.
Speaker 1:Bad boy. If you wipe bad boy off, you damn near wipe off a bunch of shit from all them people East.
Speaker 4:Coast.
Speaker 1:East Coast.
Speaker 4:Except for, maybe, like Mary J Blige, all of them.
Speaker 1:So you can't say nothing to Bad Boy Rockefeller. I'm from Philly, so we needed Rockefeller Facts. I don't know what I'll tell what be without a Rockefeller Facts?
Speaker 4:Or like growing up our childhood.
Speaker 2:I got to drag out a go, yeah.
Speaker 1:Dre, we have to go.
Speaker 4:And I understand that.
Speaker 1:Hey, wrap us up.
Speaker 4:I understand that before we go, man, let everybody know how they could get with you. If they need a feature, they try to bring you on a tour. How can they get with Joe Come?
Speaker 2:on man.
Speaker 1:I don't know Yo, you can hit Reek Jez Reek on the ground. He handled the business shit. If he taking too long, hit Bam. Bam handled the other business Bam say no more Damn.
Speaker 4:Bam still right up, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Bro, let me tell you, it was at a point where I had my son. I was trying to figure this shit out. I'm watching niggas go up and it ain't like I'm not. This is all me personally, nobody acting crazy. It ain't like a nigga like yo, you on the shelf. This is just me in my own head, because I'm in the house with a baby and I'm watching this shit and I'm just calling Reek, yo, reek, outside.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm outside, no you ain't bro you outside for two hours and you go back and out with the baby and I just called bam like yo bam, I need to get back outside he was like all right, you know, I just lost rock jones I come back outside for anybody, it's gonna be you look, I'm not gonna lie, all the independent not all but the ones that's working, doing something like, like, really working, I think y'all need to come together, man, bro, we got a little thing. We're doing the band camp.
Speaker 4:Come on, man, y'all need to stop it Shout out to the guys Wes. I love what y'all doing over there.
Speaker 1:I love what y'all doing over there.
Speaker 2:At the band camp, my love.
Speaker 1:Yeah bro Shout out to Bam man. Shout out to Bam, that's my guy man. That guy came back outside for me and we've been working and he been right there and when Rick ain't there, Bam there. When Bam ain't there, Dre there. Shout out my dog, Dre, I got a little team of just independent workers.
Speaker 1:We are a bunch of niggas, that's. They boss in they own way. But if I need you to help over here, you going to help me, right, and they be like yeah, I got you. Nah, I be cool with that. That's the only way I know how to make something work and I tell everybody look, I'm just the leader of a bunch of bosses. I'm not the boss, I'm the leader Because this is my play and you got a play that's going to get us some bread. Then you the leader, but right now I off this rap. Shit. I ain't asking you for paper. I'ma figure the paper part out. Only person I'ma call is Reek. I might call a couple of them. That's who I really call. I ain't go front. I used to be that nigga like.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Reek man Hold that shit down, man.
Speaker 1:I got a couple niggas that hold it down. Shout out, reek.
Speaker 4:Shout out Buzz Shazelle. Yeah, shout out the guys Busy Goly.
Speaker 2:Dre Not like a team man. Shout out to Hitters.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Hitters man. We need a team.
Speaker 1:I'm a team of a bunch of underdogs that just know what we really is. Check us out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Look man.
Speaker 1:Nobody think about Bigs. They think that this OG right here about to walk in this room and out-rap everybody, and then he do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah everybody. And then he do it. Yeah, like he do it, like he's walking here for the gray. No, y'all got, y'all got.
Speaker 1:Y'all got, y'all got great Just rap out, rap you about in his own lane, like and I'm not about to talk to you Like the fuck is wrong with you, young boys, and like you'll be like man, it don't sound nutty, it's you right on it.
Speaker 2:I got a nice group of rappers over there, man doing your thing and Wes that nigga is special Super.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, wes different. We've been around Wes damn near the whole year Wes. Zier and another show yeah, Zier.
Speaker 1:Max fell in love with SE. He heard SE. He fell in love with him. Mayor, mayor 103 is a problem, bro. Listen, I'm sitting here listening to him and Wes rap back and forth Right. Then he starts singing and not like. Not like, no, I'm talking about like Brian McKnight, I can sing, nigga. I'm like, bro, it ain't no way you rap that good and sing that well, you a chico yeah nigga can sing.
Speaker 3:That's the young niggas man.
Speaker 4:Them young generational.
Speaker 3:These niggas be motherfucking hybrids.
Speaker 4:No, for sure.
Speaker 1:They be a like, they be a combination.
Speaker 4:That was a great word for them niggas.
Speaker 1:I've been in the studio I be trying to find little melodies I can use and all that shit. Now it's like there's no way that I'm about to just be rapping. Y'all come in here singing and all that shit, king Gibbs, man, I'm going to go. He's another nigga bro. Crazy. I be just listening, like what is you doing? I be watching Gibbs on the ground when he be going in his act and he be rapping, and then he just go and then the pen.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't fuck like that.
Speaker 4:That shit is beautiful though man, it's a timing and a talent into that shit, bro.
Speaker 1:And the more he just stay in the stew and do that shit, the more that shit will come easy. Just easy, bro, and the pin just come from being outside bro.
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