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SY IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT FEAT. SY YOLA RTMPODCAST | SZN 3 | EP 31

@Reallathanmos, @whyteboi_D2E , Season 3 Episode 31

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The conversation opens with a content warning and a quick, raw intro that sets an honest tone for what follows: a life told without polish. Sy Yola traces his roots to Kensington and Allegheny, one of the roughest corners of Philadelphia, and explains how his earliest influences weren’t celebrities but brothers and old heads who set standards, protected him, and showed him what “thorough” meant before he could articulate it. Those neighborhood lessons formed a code that outlasted trends—fight when you must, show up for family, respect the ones who pulled you off the block when things got hot. It’s a blueprint of survival that doesn’t glamorize the street but recognizes that a working moral compass often starts on the corner.

Then the story sharpens into the placement chapter—the roof, the fire truck, the crowd of cops waiting—and a revelation he’s never shared publicly: his mom told the system to keep him. That decision stung, but it saved him. Placement gave him structure, time management, tidiness, and the humility to sit in a reading class in the middle of the school where everyone could see, then prove he could read when tested. He explains how discipline—sleeping hours, workouts, making the bed—became the scaffolding for adulthood and how faith kept him from catching the cases his peers did. Instead of spinning that experience as trauma alone, he reframes it as a reset button that taught him to analyze, process, redirect, proceed, and repeat. It’s a method he still uses to make decisions under pressure.

Coming home turned that discipline into hustle. He returned to nothing—flip-flops, missing clothes—and refused to sell hard drugs after seeing what it did to his brother. Weed felt different in a house where it was normalized, and he paired that with construction, McDonald’s shifts, and culinary arts in school. He learned to bag his own product, doubled small packs into larger margins, and used consistent work to build a flexible income stack. The throughline wasn’t the grind for its own sake; it was responsibility to a younger brother, to a household, and to a future where he wasn’t removed from the people who needed him. He speaks to juggling two lives—keeping danger away from home, hiding stress from the young bulls in his living room, and protecting a relationship that couldn’t bear the truth of proximity to risk.

Art arrived early through poems in 1999 and matured into raps, performances, and mentorship. He converted his downstairs into a studio, vouched with parents, and fed young artists while he worked. He wasn’t chasing clout; he wanted to watch them take a stage and hear the room yell their words back. He tells a story about filming in La Salle’s library by asking a guard respectfully and being let in, proof that initiative and honesty still open doors when polish and budget don’t. That same mindset guided him through the politics of Philly content: he respects repost strategies for algorithm health, but he wants creators to ship their own work, meet people outside, and earn loyalty face to face. He pushes for a citywide coalition of platforms that coordinates rollouts like other media hubs do—one call that pings every “yard,” so artists hit multiple interviews, features, and stages without chaos.

Integrity anchors his take on gatekeeping. He’s blunt: talent gets you in, character keeps you in. If a guest wants to pay for a seat but has no project or plan, that’s a disservice. Build your LLC, fix your credit, organize assets, then buy promotion you can leverage. Otherwise, brands risk selling placement with no value and burning trust. He’s not anti-money; he’s pro-readiness. The nuance matters for SEO-savvy creators and entrepreneurs searching for terms like how to bui

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SPEAKER_00:

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SPEAKER_10:

Yo, white boy, how you wanna do this, man?

SPEAKER_09:

Uh man, man, you know, we gonna do it the way we supposed to do it. How you doing today, though?

SPEAKER_10:

I'm good, man. You know, it's a long day, but you know, winding down, just kinda chillin', you know what I mean? Got a good interview today. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We knocking them out the box, you know what I'm saying? That's what we do. What's up, man? How you doing?

SPEAKER_09:

I like that. That's what I'm gonna appreciate.

SPEAKER_10:

Uh introduce our guests, man. They say we take too long introducing our guests. Introduce our guests.

SPEAKER_09:

We got uh we got a uh a family to the pie today, you know what I'm saying? Sitting down with us. You know what I mean? He's on a uh a few platforms itself. He has his own platform itself. You know what I mean? But you know, you know what I mean, came to sit down with some players today. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10:

We got a Sayola and man, give us a round of applause, y'all. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah. All right, man. How you wanna start this off? You wanna walk down or you wanna Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna walk it down. I mean, like, I know we're gonna chill, but yeah, let's do a walk down.

SPEAKER_09:

We could we get a little a little something real quick, yeah. Just to get a viewers uh, yeah, I mean, just to know who they've been put on who they on who's sitting on the couch today. That's all.

SPEAKER_10:

Let's get it. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_09:

So, uh, Sad, where you from, bro? Kensiton, Allegheny. Okay. That's one of the Kensington. That's one of the roughest stops in Philadelphia, man. So, you know, growing up in um in the Kins in the Kensington environment, you know, it's it's kind of crazy down there. And you know, like before we uh before we like get into like influences that we like maybe see on TV or like NBA basketball players, football players, maybe rappers or whoever we be having influences like either right outside our door or inside our house. Give me a few of them coming up for you.

SPEAKER_06:

My older brother was an influence to me. He was like Superman to me. Polo shirts, the chicks liked them, all of that type of stuff. So like he was he had the bag. So like growing up, like you know, having braids and different things like that. If mine ain't have it, my brother had it.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay. He was a real man.

SPEAKER_06:

He was here, he was here. At least at the time when you when you know when you're young, yeah, you you don't you can't articulate, you know, you just see what you say.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So going so at that was at that particular time, like my mom ain't have it's like I'm my brother. Like and he had a rumble game. Like we grew up, like we you had to rumble when we was coming up. So I never seen him lose. Only time I seen him lose a fight was to my other older brother, and he which is older than him. But I even thought that my oldest brother couldn't beat him. Like, but so like he he had a nice influence on me. And then my brother, that's my oldest brother, him, he was one of the ones, fly, all the girls liked him, nice teeth. From Francisville, my brother Rock. So he was like one of them. He was, you know what I mean? And then outside of that, like when my pops being gone, my brothers going to jail, just like some of the old heads, they always would be like, yo, you gonna be alright. But at the time, I used to be like, whatever. Right. Yo, you cool, you throw, yeah, you hear it a lot, but you don't really take the value of it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Because they don't, you don't know what they say. You don't really understand. I don't really understand it. So I'm just being a knucklehead. But all the old heads always used to be like, yo, come here. Like they always used to protect me. Something going down on the block. I'm trying, yo, you want something from the store? I'm going to the store for him and all that. They decided get off the block.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

So I go ahead around the corner. So, like, some a lot of the old heads that's thorough. Even when I went to placement, I always gravitated to them, like to the old heads. So they always, I just took pieces of this, pieces of that. But for the most part, it wasn't like the uh the basketball players, the rappers, they never really had the influence on me. Yeah, I wanted the money that they had. But I never wanted to be them. Money to beat them. Like Jay-Z might be the one who I seen that was like, damn, I want the influence. Hove guy.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

Like Ho was probably the only one. Like, if I had to study something, it was like Hove. Like, like, damn, that nigga just clean. He just Ho was he can't do no wrong type shit. Like, whole was he always was different. He was, and then once I got older and then could understand the music, it was like, damn, he was talking like this back then, like that. Yeah, so it made me like him even more. You know, like Hove might be the only person I never met in life, and I feel like I know the nigga.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, that's like how I feel about Hove. Like that nigga, like he the nigga I never met, but I know him.

SPEAKER_10:

I think all of us be like that.

SPEAKER_06:

Walk right up on him.

SPEAKER_07:

Yo, Ho Suskey. I don't know you. Nigga, I know you, nigga. Right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_09:

So uh I heard you say uh placement. What was it that uh landed you in placement and um why do you think that um just answer the first question first and then I'll get to the second question.

SPEAKER_06:

Alright, so I never told nobody this story ever. I never told nobody why I was in placement, right? Never exclusive. So running around, breaking the inneries, different things, like people knew all of that type of shit. I was boxing. At a younger age, I was boxing, and I had a fight coming up, my first fight, and me and my cousins in us get chased by the cops over in Jersey. We get chased by the cops, my cousins in them tell on me. Right.

SPEAKER_09:

I was gonna over Jersey gonna go.

SPEAKER_06:

We go over Jersey, we wild up. No, no, no, no. We driving, we young driving, or whatever. I got my man will, but I'm 15 and I'm I look like I'm probably like 12, 10 years old. You feel what I'm saying? Right. So this white boy sees all these kids and like he on some, he looking and I'm like, fuck out of here. But I felt he he was following me. He said I hit his window. So I'm like, what the fuck? Like, so I'm following him. Like, get the fuck out of here. So we you know, I take off or whatever, I'm driving, but then I'm like, damn, this nigga following us. So I you know how like you coming from downtown, and you know you can go over the bridge, but me not really having no sense of direction, you just going, I'm just going, and I goes over the bridge, so I'm like, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_08:

You on Cherry Hill.

SPEAKER_06:

So we wind up getting off at Camden, the nigga wind up chasing us, we wind up jumping out the wheel, running, or whatever. They said they want to know who was driving, they like Sava's driving. So you know they tell I was on the news and everything over that joint. Damn, yeah, yeah. Cause all right, so I'm gonna tell you the whole story. So when we jump out the wheel, it was this, it was when we come down, it used to be a Wacovia Bank. This is how old this shit was. It was a Waukovia bank. We come down uh over the bridge, we jump out the wheel, whatever, we run it. I got my little cousin with me. The nigga, he kind of chubby at the time, but it's like my this is like my ace in the hole still to this day. I'm like, I'm not leaving you. Yeah, so he like, yo, like I can't run no more. I'm tired. Right, go ahead. So me being who I am, I'm like, I'm gonna get away. I run back to where we was originally at. It was this gate full with like it was this gate had bar wires and shit on it. So I run up that gate, and you know how you kick off the gate? It was like this balcony, so I run and kick off the gate, and it gave me enough room to grab the balcony. So I grabbed like the balcony and climb over the bar wires. So the cops like, yeah, we're gonna get to say the same shit. So they like this nigga was a nigga. They like, we're gonna get him on the other side, we're gonna get him on the other side. I'm cracking up like pussy. Y'all ain't getting me shit. So after I climb on the balcony, they had the bars up. I climb over to like the Waucovia roof. So I'm chilling on the roof, like, yeah, they on the other side looking for me. Like, I'ma just stay here all day, leave, and then call my folks, like, yo, y'all gotta come get me. Probably like 30 minutes later, I hear this like the fire department. So I ain't paying the shit no mind. They coming up on the roof, that shit stopped right in front of the roof. So I'm like, oh, what the fuck going on? They like right there.

SPEAKER_07:

We coming up for the day bro. When I come, when they come and get me, it's a huddle of motherfuckers in this land. It's a huddle of cops. Waiting for you to come down, waiting for me to come down.

SPEAKER_06:

So I'm like, I ain't gonna run it, like get the fuck out of there, spider man. Fuck out of the spider. They wind up booking me, right? So making sure stay shorter, yeah. I wind up, my mom and then wind up coming over there, whatever, grabbing me or whatever. And um, that was the end of that. What they ain't like we just got chased by the cow. So that shit was over over there. But now my PO catching one of the shit. Because I'm on I'm on probation from rumbling. This lady, this lady, this uh young boy punched my little uh sister in the face. So I wind up beating his son up, but his mom jumped in it, and then and then me and my sister beat the mom and the and all the other kids up. So the cop the cops pump fake, like the cops pump fake, like, yeah, we just gonna take y'all down here to get to question and see what happened. And they wind up processing me and my sister. Damn, yeah, and at the time we 14 years old, or whatever, we like 14. So I was on probation from 14, and then once I turned 15, that's when that following summer, that's when I got locked up over Jersey. And then my mom, this is the part I never told nobody, and my mom don't even know that I know. My mom told them to lock me up.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So I'm coming home like, damn mom, yo, see if I can get house arrest. I got a fight coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Woo woo. I'm trying to my mom, like, all right, bet I'm a I'ma see. So the whole time she's spinning me for real for real. She already told these motherfuckers to lock me up. She's spinning me, but she don't know. At the time, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_10:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

So she's spinning me. So I'm thinking, like, bet, I might got a chance. They called me and moved my court date up, and I knew it was over after that. I was like, damn. I was like, Mom, did you talk to him? I'm like, I'm teary-eyed and everything. Like, mom, like, did you yo, what's going on? Did you talk to him? She like, I'm gonna talk to him. I'm like, mom, like they moved my court date up. Like everybody who court date get moved up, they go to jail. They get like, like, mom, I ain't trying to be nobody's placement or nothing like that. She like, no, I'm gonna talk to him, son of the whole time spinning me. Damn. So now, so once I found out, now, once I found out later on, like years later, that that's what she did. Now I can see I already knew I was being spent anyway. But I didn't, I didn't, I knew I was being spent to a degree, but when they put the pieces to the puzzle, I'm like, damn, you ain't never talked to you. Did talk to him, but you ain't talk the talk that I wanted you to talk, or whatever. And then, like, so the person that told me, they wind up telling me, like, yo, I gotta tell you something. And I'm like, what's up? They like, yo, you know, your mom got you locked up. And I was like, and then all that shit come back in my head, like, damn, yeah. They like, yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

I was what you think was going through her mind by her like telling them to keep you. You think she was saving you?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, she ultimately like I I believe so. And it actually did save me, to be honest, because a lot of the qualities that I learned, a lot of time management, a lot of tidiness, all the good structures, uh reading. Like when I got locked up.

SPEAKER_10:

Where you get sent to?

SPEAKER_06:

I got sent to the gapes. Yeah, I got sent to the gapes. Yeah, I was like the gates. When I was in the gapes, I was uh Batman went there.

SPEAKER_09:

Wait, how old is you?

SPEAKER_06:

I'm 36. I'd be 37 this year.

SPEAKER_09:

What year are you in there at?

SPEAKER_06:

Probably like 04, 05.

SPEAKER_10:

Oh yeah. Yeah. My cousin was at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_06:

No, that was Glenn Mills, they was treating niggas. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Glenn Mills.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, my little brother was at the way.

SPEAKER_09:

I remember when I was with Gabes was crazy. Gabes, Mills, Youth Study Center, they all them drones was created. Shout out back now.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, but yeah, so like I do believe like all I learned so much. Even like when I was in a Gabes, I was probably I was in a 10th grade or the ninth grade, but I might have been on like on the sixth grade reading level, seventh grade reading level. I know I was like a couple grades underneath my reading level. So when I go through the intake, because you go through intake evaluation and all that, they like yo, your reading level low, or whatever. So I'm like, all right. So they like, we we suggest you go to a reading class. We in the games, it's a all it's all niggas in here, the reading class in the middle of the fucking school. So when you come down the hallway, it's science and all that. The reading class is literally in the middle of the school, but like how I am now, that's how I always been. So I was like, Well, fuck it. If it's going better, me then let's do it. So niggas really thought I can't read or whatever, like you know what I mean? But I really could read. So when niggas try to play me one day, like, yeah, get Saderi. So I look like, oh, wait till we get to the front, pussy. Like, yeah, come on, I got you. I'll read three, four pages. I'm like, no, I gotta, I gotta, I'm like, yeah, was that enough for you, nut ass nigga? Y'all can't be like, you know what I mean? But so I probably wouldn't uh got the help I needed, or I probably would have not even, I probably would have overlooked that. You know what I mean? I probably would have been like, I'm good, or still carry no reading.

SPEAKER_09:

So what ultimately those placements did, you know what I mean? The ones that wasn't abusing kids and shit like that at the time, it would slow their life down from the communities that we was in. And when we like turned teenagers, a lot of us turn to drugs and a lot of other shit, selling drugs. So like when you get there, all that's off the plate. Now you just gotta like you getting fully disciplined. You know what I mean? And for real, for real, the discipline is like the proper things that you should have as a young man going into your adulthood. That's what the shit is.

SPEAKER_06:

Right, the structure, yep, destruction, going to sleep at a certain time, waking up at a certain time, working out at a certain time. Making your bed, yeah. Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, I mean, all that.

SPEAKER_06:

And I was blessed to have some thorough Oheads on my fret, too. So that was that was a dope thing.

SPEAKER_10:

Wait, that was you was that was all you no.

SPEAKER_06:

So I got I I uh after that, I haven't ran into no major situations.

SPEAKER_08:

So everything was tightened you up, tighten you up.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, so you you you sitting in there for 10 months, you find out ways to do shit better. Yeah, you find out the ways to analyze. I always analyzed. So that was my thing. Analyze, process, redirect, proceed and repeat. That was my thing. So and and and and to be honest, all the way honest, it's like God for real, for real. Because a lot of the shit that my homies got locked up for, I could have been locked up for.

SPEAKER_09:

I don't have no record, right?

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I mean? So it's it ain't like I'm slicker than these niggas, or you know, I mean, I might have been a little bit more patient at times. I might have took my time, I might have took a time to learn a little bit more about the situation, right? You know what I'm saying? But that was all what God had for me. But you know, you still pay for that shit in different ways. I might not have gone upstate, but you pay for it in different ways.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, no question. So, you know, like you know, escaping that, getting out of that, and then you know, being a better person coming out of that, and you know, you you being um that in the real world, now you becoming an adult. And you know, we we still in Kesitz and we still in Philly, you know, things are still rough. You know, give me like what you was going through at that time and what you had going on.

SPEAKER_06:

Coming straight from the uh Gapes. Yeah, uh man, that shit was like it was crazy because when I come home, I don't got shit. I come home to nothing. Think and I went to all boys' school, so thank God when I came home it was summertime. So now I got flip-flops. I'm going to school in flip-flops. That's how much I ain't had nothing. Like niggas stole everything I had. I'm thinking I'm coming home to a little something. Cousins, brothers, whatever, they stole what I had. So I came home to nothing. So at the time, it was super rough. And it's the middle of the and it's the middle of the summer, it's the middle of July, first of the month. You gotta wait for the first and then hope somebody got something for you. So, but it turned me up though. So Nana's, I'm I'm I'm running around Kissington per usual, but I was against selling drugs because like I told you in the beginning, my brother was like Superman to me, yeah. But the nigga got locked up for selling drugs, okay. So it was like, in my head, it's like, no, I know how I felt behind that shit. So I'm like, nah, I ain't and I had a little brother, you know what I mean? So it was like, I can't, I ain't, I can't get taken away from him because he's gonna need me, you know what I'm type shit. So, but I never thought weed was selling drugs, okay, because my mom and them smoked my whole life.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, I ain't the same way that.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, so I was like, Well, fuck it, like weed ain't like at the time, it's still selling drugs, but at the time, like, man, fuck it. I saw I grabbed some tree. I was starting doing construction with my mom, uh, old boyfriend. I'm doing construction with him. I got the tree a little bit from my man, and then I and then one of my dogs, he was here, he was connected to uh this African nigga. Okay, and this one like the Aki shit first came out, yeah. Or whatever. So niggas don't even niggas just thinking they getting a cheap polo shirt. Yeah, I'm uh you feel what I'm saying. Like niggas, oh you got the forces, yeah, come in here with my man. My man, like I discount them drones for cuz, and then you will get a little couple dollars. So now we're running that play. I got that shit on because I'm always doing that shit on.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm loading up the whole time. I'm I getting up, I'm gonna even dig this shit. I'm like, why the fuck my fools just keep getting dick play?

SPEAKER_08:

Like with the stripes and shit.

SPEAKER_06:

So then, like, I've read it at play, and then eventually, you know, you we we hustlers, we get in where we fit in. So I'm in high school and um figuring it out. They had Collin A Arts. Okay, so I started that's how I started cooking. I started I started cooking in high school. So they would pay me$50 a week to come in a half hour already and prep the uh the food for the breakfast. So I do that, but I'm doing that. My man from school, he done put me on the tree game. I didn't even know how to bag this shit up. I'm like, bro, like, because he was giving me like a hundred dollars joint. So you give me a hundred dollar pack and say, give me fifty dollars back, and you take fifty. So I'm like, bet you double up, so I didn't so now be and I don't know nothing about the game. So now he like, sir, I ain't even gonna lie to you. You might as well cap your own little Izzy and then bag it up. So I'm like, cuz I don't know how to do none of that shit. He like, I'm gonna show you. So from there, yeah. So now when I first started hustling, I I had probably two fifty dollar packs. Everything after that, it was always your own shit. Yeah, because that's how I learned. My man was thorough enough to be like, I'm putting you, I'm gonna put you all the way on. You know what I mean? So now I'm at McDonald's, I'm working McDonald's, working school, and got the tree. You know what I mean? So before you know it, that summer rolling around, I'm him.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you tweaking.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I'm in my I'm in the game. Yeah, I mean, and my mom selling that shit to all her girlfriends. I'm in the game. Like, I'm I'm up. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09:

And then I and today, it was like so uh, you know, you having all that, and everything happened for you. You come home, you see everything that's going on. Like, you having that um the skill to articulate yourself well on camera, like how that come about, where did it all come from? I know.

SPEAKER_10:

Go ahead. You uh you wanna take her back? Go ahead, go ahead. Take her back 11 years real quick.

SPEAKER_02:

Tell her what you was doing, you're gonna let me know.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm gonna take her back further than that. All right, go ahead to even to make that make sense. All right, bet. Right? So in 99, I started writing poems. Okay, okay, but I always tell people people wear masks for two reasons. The most common reasons is to show to hide who you are, the other reason is to show who you are. And because where we come from, we don't have that voice. We don't have a, you know, your mom, you grew up with your mom, and then it's like, yo, I say what I said, I said what I said, do what I told you to do. And that's what you and that's what you do.

SPEAKER_08:

That's what you do.

SPEAKER_06:

You you feel them say it ain't no if and buts of body. And you know you're not wrong. But you can't even say that you're not wrong because now you're being disrespectful. Facts. So I would always like, I was always ahead of my class. So like my cousins in them couldn't think like me. So now my older cousins in them, they don't want they want to undermine who I am because they don't want they because I'm on game. So you can't let me know that I'm on game, because now you can you you can't take advantage, right? You feel what I'm saying? So I was I started writing poetry, but at the time I didn't know about spoken word, I didn't know about different types of poetry. I would just vent in my make poetry or whatever. Yeah, but because my older cousin, shout out to my cousin Fame, uh Frankfurt or whatever, shout out to him. He was rapping it, and I seen the like notoriety he got from that shit. He was going to dances, doing all the hands and all that, and they loved him battling and all that shit.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, oh my god, that was the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So now I seen him, you feel what I'm talking. I see him, he's born with that shit. They love him. So I was like, man, I don't see no poetry lady, but I see a rapping lane, and he helped me with my first rap. Okay, but I always was like shy at heart. I'm still a shy nigga now. I'm just confident when I'm talking, I'm just confident in what I do. But by heart, naturally, like I'm just like a shy in the cut type nigga. Like, I ain't really people think that I'm outspoken and all that. But if I if if we if it's a hundred of us and y'all the ones with me, I ain't really about to be branching off unless a nigga know me, or unless there's a conversation that I that's intriguing, and that's something that I'm confident in. Other than that, I'm I'm in the cut type nigga, so I always was scared to rap low key. But it was like, man, fuck that. These niggas got little fave, uh music that shit, and that's when I started rapping or whatever, and then fast forward, I would do it on and off. I still would do the poetry, but I would do it like on and off, and then when social media came about, and I'm like, bet, like niggas rapping and shit. To be on now when the rap and shit, I really didn't want to rap. Okay, my young boys in them was hot as shit, but I had all of the credibility.

SPEAKER_10:

Take it back to the time. What year was that?

SPEAKER_06:

This is 2012, 2013 type shit. You was performing already. I was performing, yep, exactly. So now my young boys in them, they high as shit. I'm like, listen, I'm gonna turn my downstairs to the studio. Y'all can come here and record.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm I'm and I'm seven years older than them, so they mom, like, what the fuck is y'all at? Like, who I was y'all at? So now I gotta go drive to their mom's crib, introduce me. Yeah, yo, I'm such and such, I do such and such, you know what I mean? They be at the crib, I be at work, I make sure they eat. And if y'all can make sure they eat, they this is where they at. Here's the airdress. So I really wanted them to pop, or whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_10:

And then it's like who who was this? Like, who you think about? What artist was this?

SPEAKER_06:

My young boy, one of them named uh Chiz Super, and my other young boy, uh Mars, my young boy Mars. My and then one of my young boys, TK, he reminded me of Drake back in the day. Like he he stole Drake a whole shit, but he was like, he was hot as shit. His lyrics was hot as shit. I'm like, damn, little nigga.

SPEAKER_10:

Like, and I wanted them little niggas to go, but you know, I know about I know the time you talking. That's that that's the time when music started branching off.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah, that was right before the P and B rock shit. You know what I mean? So now it get a little discouraging when niggas got a machine behind them, so you got other niggas that might be dropping. This I don't know what happened to this nigga, the nigga B Love.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, B Love. He used to be on all the uh P and B Rock early shit. Harmony that himself he used to get a little dog with him and shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I don't know what happened to us. He used he was he was he was he was getting it popping back in the day. This right before a couple years later, then core come out. They got their little wave, they got their little movement and shit.

SPEAKER_10:

Uh rock and all the rock wind up coming out.

SPEAKER_06:

That shit, you know. You had poop papers doing a little bit of something at the time, it turned up, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10:

So it's like Philly turned up, Philly on fire.

SPEAKER_06:

We got shout out to Riga Boy, we got Riga Boy, them niggas doing their shit. We had Crow Vic Boys, we got that shit jumping, nursing them coming down. It was I could have really did that shit and been gone because it slowly but surely the pieces started to fall into place. Wilo seen me one day and was like, damn, sir, like I thought you was out of here. What happened? I was like, man, them niggas wanted me to be the shooter and the driver.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn.

SPEAKER_06:

Wilo stopped the whole thing.

SPEAKER_10:

That was the perfect way to say it.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I mean? It's like y'all want me to hang out the window, y'all want me to get the money, y'all want me to rap, y'all want me to engine, y'all want me to do so much shit.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06:

And it's like that shit become overwhelming, especially when y'all kids for real, for real. Y'all ain't got no bill responsibilities. I'm letting y'all do this shit on the on the strength. And I don't want nothing from it, but I just want to see you niggas on the stage because that's all I can in my head. That's all I pictured, right? Was my young niggas on the stage as a bunch of people and they singing they shit. I just wanted to sit back and smile, like, damn, them little niggas did that shit. Yeah, and I just wanted to help with be a part of the history, you know what I mean? But you know, law got different plans, and that's it. So you see how it goes.

SPEAKER_09:

I mean, that's fire to even have that mindset because it's like coming from where we come from, we don't have too many opportunities for it. So for you to open your home and then like investing into it, you know what I mean? For the kids to come somewhere safe to do what they do, you know what I mean. That's just a blessing, I mean, because it ain't really too many of those out, especially like where we at. And like they don't come, they don't come to give a gift rap like that. You know what I mean? I don't care who it is, they make them kids pay. I don't care how they get money from their parents, the old hair from the black, anywhere, they gotta pay for them studio sessions. So that was just therapy for you to do.

SPEAKER_10:

They gotta pay for studio sessions, videos, everything. All that shit every day, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And the nigga, my younger, he shot the videos.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn.

SPEAKER_06:

This nigga is a one-man band. He can engineer, he can shoot the videos.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn. How y'all put together the video um broken with chop mosely with chop mose?

SPEAKER_06:

So we went we was with Chop. Chop was that Chop Moscow. He was shooting. Shoot everybody's shit was on fire. Chop was on shoot, and niggas used to be like, How you get chop?

SPEAKER_07:

And I never would tell niggas my price. Like, I told one nigga my time.

SPEAKER_06:

It wasn't easy to get at that time. Bro, I told a nigga my price one time, went crazy. Nigga, like, what? Couldn't believe it. I'll be like, Yeah, but Chop, I sent Chop something, and Chop fucked with it.

SPEAKER_09:

Back then, you'll throw Chop one of the Dom. Yeah, I would tell you and shit like that. Chop was big, like PMB going up. It was over after that.

SPEAKER_06:

And and that shit, like Chop really was the the the man behind it. Like Chop would say his vision and he actually for your input. Yeah, and then and it's crazy because in that video, right? We inside the school, uh LaSalle College. Oh yeah, yeah, so bang. So now we needed an inside scene, we needed that type of vibe, you know what I mean? Because it's broken, like you you here and I'm here, you there, she there. So we like, my man, like yo, we gonna go to LaSalle, try to go to the library or whatever. So I'm like, all right, come on. We get to the library, we get in there, so they like, man, that shit ain't gonna work. I'm like, man, I'ma talk to the nigga. They like, man, they won't work. I'm like, bro, y'all niggas is scared. I'm gonna talk to him. So I go to the security guard. I said, listen, bro, my name's Sai. I'm an inspiring rapper. I pulled up one of the videos. I'm like, listen, I don't want to make no noise. I just want to get some footage in here. It's me and my team. And I just kicked, I just gave it to him rolling up cut. I ain't lie at all. And he was like, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, so like that's the man.

SPEAKER_06:

I just give I just told you straight like that. And that's the they wanted the vision. I'm like, man, once we went in there was a guard right there. And that's when that shit was like, I'm like, let me talk to him.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And I went talk to the nigga, he let us in.

SPEAKER_09:

Fire. Fire.

SPEAKER_06:

Let us in.

SPEAKER_09:

That's fire. I like that. So it's like you've been had it, it's just like shooting and a driver. Yeah. You had a lot on your plate, so you weren't even really even focused on yourself.

SPEAKER_06:

Mm-hmm. And then it's like niggas don't really talk about it, but at that time you're going through different breakups and shit like that. That shit really takes a toll on you.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Like you're going through your breakups, and or you, you know what I mean? You got this chick over here, you got this chick over here. You ain't, you know what I mean? You trying to. That's where some of that music shit come from, too. Like some of those, like that shit inspire you. You know what I'm saying? So and you trying to make it right over here. You got your young boys in the crib. You don't want them to see you sweating. You at the same time, I'm still in, I'm still halfway in the streets. So it's like they they know I carry a hammer, but I'm trying to sneak out the crib with the pounds, and you get what I'm saying? Like, so it's like trying to hide, trying to juggle life. Living two lives. Right. And then with the with your folks, you might think I'm outside cheating.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Whole time I'm in the hood.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm in the hood. But I don't want you to know I'm in the hood.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm hiding it from you because I felt like growing up, a lot of niggas got caught up letting their folks know too much. So in my mind was, if you don't know nothing, you can't say nothing.

SPEAKER_08:

That's the truth.

SPEAKER_06:

So that was what I always did. But it not, but because I never seen no one else do it that way, or I had no one to talk to.

SPEAKER_09:

Put strains on a relationship.

SPEAKER_06:

It put strains on a relationship. And now, but that's trial and error now.

SPEAKER_09:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't have nobody like, yo, cuz I'm high and such and such. And I don't want to, but this shit fucking up my household.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I mean? And then I might have got caught up with a little or a little latte or something. You know what I mean? And then now I can't even, I can't even say that I really ain't everything you do now.

SPEAKER_10:

You know what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? And then you feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06:

And then now you still got you in the street, so you still gotta hold your like don't play with me type demeanor.

unknown:

You feel me?

SPEAKER_06:

Like, like, and that's a whole nother joint.

SPEAKER_10:

And then they don't even respect it after that. It's like clown, like, don't play with me, clown.

SPEAKER_06:

You feel me? Like, and then it didn't, but then you then you gotta go outside and have the same demeanor with cousin them that yo, you can't be right here. This ain't your like you too close to home, cousin. You can't this spot right here ain't your spot. Like, go ahead around the corner with that. With hopes that you ain't gotta push a button. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, and then you low key already stressed out, you know what I mean? Like, don't let don't let some don't let that shit don't come in the mouth.

SPEAKER_08:

Philly for you, man.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, or that shit don't come back, you like, oh, what the fuck? Now you really tight. Yeah, hell yeah. So it'd be a bunch of different variables that be like, yo, yeah, pouring into the one situation, pouring into the one situation, you know what I mean? And when you ain't got no no motherfucking mentor in that department, yeah, you be crashing out.

SPEAKER_09:

Um how you and Johnny Meg Link.

SPEAKER_06:

So we linked up through NH.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

So NH girl is my cousin.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, like my blood cousin.

SPEAKER_06:

And me, uh it's crazy. I just told this story. Me and me and Johnny was about to rumble when I first met Johnny. Like, probably not the first time, but probably like the second time. You know, we we come from Philly, like, we ain't on no Joe shit. Like, yeah, are you that nigga cousin? Are you that nigga brother? You H brother, like, and we from Philly, so it's like this nigga just a nigga from the DVD at the time. Like, H. Like, you know what I mean? Ain't I know him, I you know, we talk like regular shit.

SPEAKER_02:

You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06:

And you know, where we come from, a nigga who got the buzz or got the ball, you know, a lot of it come with a lot of groupies and different shit like that. So Johnny thought that that was the case with me the whole time. I'm really down here for my cousin.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

See what I'm saying? I'm really down here with my cousin. I'm I'm with my blood cousin at that, like my mom, like my dad brother daughter type shit. You know what I mean? I don't even when I go to see my cousin at the time, I don't even know that that was her dude.

unknown:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I learned that shit out later on down the line. So when I come up, I'm just like, damn, they sent my cousin little down here, down the bottom, and I ain't seen him in a minute. I'm like, fuck it, let me go. Her sister passed a couple years before that. I'm like, man, fuck it. Let me go see my get back tight with my cousin. You know what I mean? We grown now, yeah. And in the process of that, that's what had happened. So Johnny come down one day and he on his bullshit. Like he he a busting type of nigga. Like he liked the bus, not knowing that I got an extended clip for that shit. I'm talking about like this shit, like this shit like a switch with this shit. I am I will warm your ass up.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you got me fucked up.

SPEAKER_06:

He came outside going one too. Oh my god. Yeah, so now we now we now we and Johnny going back and forth. We busses. He hot. I got him hot because I told him I said back. I'm telling you, he's cooking it. Don't say nothing else to me, bro. I'm getting I'm giving you a graceful bow out. Don't say nothing else to me. I'm gonna grind you the fuck up. Man, yeah, he don't because Mac really low-key like a bully type shit. Yeah, he thought he was about to bully me. I listen, man. I give him a clip.

SPEAKER_07:

Just don't have the chick that sell the uh pies, the moose chick. I think her name, the chick that's selling the banana pies, banana putting it. They out there on their promo run, the milkshakes and all that. Bro, it's all bad bitches with them too.

SPEAKER_09:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm grinding, they they falling over the coolest and shit. I'm grinding that the fuck.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm giving him a hundred. Yeah, so now when you run out of jokes, the next thing is nigga, like, you got me fucked up and all that. So he had on some shorts and some shit. So I'm like, what the fuck is this? He like nigga, don't touch me. What the fuck is this? You you pick the table up grinding. So now he like, what nigga? So now, like, he gonna like act like he wanted to doint me. So I smack it, like, hey, you get your brother. Cause now at this point, like, it's like I'm giving you your respect because that's my blood cousin, and this is your brother. I don't really want the friction, but uh, but at this particular moment, it's like I fucked you up and whoever one helped me. So it's like, but because I got respect for you, it's like, yo, get your folks, you know what I mean? So he so now H like Johnny, chill, you drawing. So now H and Johnny argue. Because H didn't because now he thinking that he pretty he like nigga, I'm your brother, but because he don't know that this is my cousin, yeah. So now later on they're the line. So once he like he got a shot all in him and all that, so yeah, he tight as shit. So I'm like, get the fuck out of here, get up out of here, go pull off of your caddy, you fat pussy. Like, I've grinded, yeah. He like, I'm gonna fuck you up, nigga. He hot, like any one to Rumble. Like, but he wind up leaving, probably like a couple days later. We all back down there again. He like, damn, I ain't know you was really folks, my bad. I'm like, no, bro, there ain't no hard feelings. Like, I don't hold grudges, like, I ain't really a nigga to hold grudges. We meant at the end of the day, yeah. And it's like, you feel you can feel how you feel, you know what I mean? So it's like, and then after that, we just were like lock in after that, you know what I mean? And then, you know, what him going through his addiction and all that type of shit. Because mind you, I didn't know Johnny, right? So, but it was crazy because he's going through his addiction, and every time, every which way I would turn, the nigga would be right there. Yeah, like Well, he, like, I'm talking about like he got to an accident right across the street. I'm like, what the fuck is you know what I'm saying? Like, and and through the whole thing, I was the only nigga there for him. Yep.

SPEAKER_09:

Like, and that and that's how like we was crazy because the whole time he's going through that, he building his, he's building his platform.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yep. So, like, I was talking to them earlier, I was telling them niggas like every time my notifications would go off crazy, I knew that it was somebody telling me Johnny on live or yeah, because Johnny would only listen to me. Like, Johnny, get the fuck off the live, hang this joy, bro. I remember one time we on live, Johnny think we on FaceTime.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm like, cuz hang the fucking live up. Like, let's talk about something, man.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah. All right. Before we get into it, it's the Real Of the Most podcast. Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment.

SPEAKER_09:

If you don't, you're a motherfucking hater.

SPEAKER_10:

Why? Because it's free. You already know we got Sayola in the motherfucking building, man. Make sure y'all tune in first 48. Let's get it. Listen, man. When the situation with Nox and Garcia happened, man. Like Knox, my guy. Garcy, I fuck with Garcia. I fuck with Nox. I fuck with the whole. I mean, oh everybody, but when y'all went live that day, it was like y'all little Mac. Tell me about that, man. Like, what happened that day, man?

SPEAKER_06:

Honestly, I didn't even think it was gonna do what it did, to be honest. Like, I didn't even think it was gonna do what it did. Right? So I was up all night. Right. I was up since I seen the video. I never went to sleep. That shit kept me up. So when I'm looking at the video, I'm like, I don't like nothing about this fucking video at all. So I'm I'm I'm like, I know ain't nobody do nothing to Knox. So that shit never even popped up in my head.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Because I knew Knox.

SPEAKER_09:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

Right? So I'm looking like, uh-uh. No. And my thing was since you put it on the internet, we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it. Cause it's on the internet. Now, this was the thing. Knox put it up first. Cause I actually seen it on Knox page first.

SPEAKER_10:

That was the all right, go ahead. Go ahead. Right? So I seen it on Knox page. It was on my go ahead.

SPEAKER_06:

It was on Knox page. Now, when I start seeing it surface around, because I'm up the whole time. I'm talking about it's me and the whole team of my niggas up. And I'm like, yo, I don't like this shit. They like, what you talking about? So they we all and then hear potting. Bro, and then when I see it on Garcy page, I see the handshake was cut off. I was like, oh shit. Like all the way up until the handshake part. The handshake part. Matter of fact, I didn't even see it on Garcia page. I seen it on Johnny page. So you know how like sometimes when you watching a real and it'll cut off, yeah. I'm thinking that I might have done that. So I go back and watch it, and then I'm like, oh shit, the handshake cut off. So then I'm like, it's some shit. I low key, yeah, but like man, it's like in my head, it's like I'm really mad at Knox for real for real.

SPEAKER_10:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm really like, I'm like really, I'm not, I'm not really mad. I'm like low-key, like disappointed. Like, you ain't see that shit. Like, you ain't you ain't see how you look. Like you didn't feel that shit.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, see, he ain't understand it.

SPEAKER_06:

He looked at it from like I'm talking about as soon as I seen it, I felt like ill. Like, I was like, what the fuck is so now me not really now now when I played into it, I'm not really, I'm just trolling Nox how he trolled us. Because Nox trolled us, like, oh niggas put the fix in on the interview, and he on the internet playing all that type of shit. So I'm not really knowing that he's taking this shit personal though.

SPEAKER_09:

What that shit hurt for real. That shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, like I ain't know, like, so now it's like you know, so when niggas is I'm bitting the whole time, so when niggas is getting on my live trying to be politically correct and low-key throw little shots and all that, I'm shutting that shit down. Like, man, I'm bitten. Like, yeah, shut the fuck up. Like, you want something. What the fuck are you talking about? You up here talking all this. Shut up, like, you know what I mean? So that was my that was my approach. But then once I talked to Knox, yeah. Once I talked, because I mean Knox of it, you ain't even know it was like because me and Knox really, we was going at it.

SPEAKER_10:

He got mad at black, he got mad at everybody.

SPEAKER_06:

Me and Knox we screaming on the phone with each other. Me and Knox pulled up on each other. I'm like, nigga, where you at?

SPEAKER_10:

He like he like I'm about to go at it. Where you at?

SPEAKER_06:

I said nigga, I'm about to he like nigga, I'm FaceTiming you. I'm like, because I don't know who the fuck you run. I was like, man, shut the fuck up. I'm by myself, nigga. He FaceTime me. He like you niggas, nigga, what you standing at? He like, I'm the night you stand up. Where you want me to meet you at? Nigga, nigga, meet me at 22nd Alligation. We on the corner of 22nd Alligation. Oh my god, arguing back and forth. Right at the gas station. Niggas pulling up.

SPEAKER_07:

We you know we situated. We look at niggas pulling up, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

He pull crazy. You my man, you won't pull the time. And I'm like, Nox, yeah, you know the logistics of the whole thing. I didn't because anytime Knox would try to tell me anything, I don't want to hear that shit, Nox. Yeah, like certain things, certain insiders. Oh, Meek did, I don't want to hear it. Yo, such and such did. I don't want Knox being because me and Nox got our own relationship, right? So it's like Nox at the end of the day, my thing with Nox was nigga, move always how you need to move for you, because being thorough backfire. We think being thorough is just always a great thing. Everything has two sides. Oh, bro, that's like everything has two sides, and I learned that shit at a young age. Yeah, so when you're being thorough, that shit gotta be selective.

SPEAKER_09:

And you take a loss being thorough, you take a loss. And when certain things on the internet, they could be manipulated a certain way, so therefore, like a motherfucker gonna do whatever they want in the comments. You can't let it get to your ego.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, because everything passes by with time. You know what I mean? Like, everything passed by with time.

SPEAKER_10:

I think the city needs to like put a blanket over that shit right now. And um, we need to start uniting. You know what I mean? It's it's millions involved. You feel me? Like, I'm talking about how y'all say that shit. I'm talking about platform wise, artists-wise, everything like it's like, all right, so like it's different.

SPEAKER_09:

We don't we not we not we don't be moving with the with the drone like they competition. We don't move like that, bro. Why? Because I don't know. We just play shit already. We already like have it like so. That's why like we'll pull everybody together. We just had eight different platforms in here two days ago. Like, that's just what we do.

SPEAKER_10:

Right.

SPEAKER_09:

I don't I don't shine and Johnny Mac and Sayola shine, uh Ruler the Moose can shine and keep it a hundred and keep it a yard and uh Philly first 48 and uh Let It Be Legendary and Puffin' Rod and Hood Life Media, everybody can shine right. That's what the internet for is okay. I don't want to go in a house and just watch one thing. After I'm done watching one thing, I'm gonna watch the next thing. After I'm done watching the next thing, I'm gonna watch the next thing. The next thing is not no, it's like we ain't on that. So we like we be the ones that like no pull the city together, like break the ice. Yeah, nigga, I got a studio session, gibbs in here, Mac in here, come on through. Like, we don't be on that, right?

SPEAKER_06:

See, the because we come from nothing. Yeah, we come from building who we can build with.

SPEAKER_09:

You guys said earlier, right? That's where we come from. So something like we just look at it. Bro, we right before you walked in, bro. That nigga said, White boy. That nigga said, White boy, I look up at that. Like, no, for real. Not in the sun, like we looking at this shit like no, bro, like a year ago, like a year. You feel me?

SPEAKER_06:

No, and it's motivation, you know what I'm saying? Because you got a nigga like and I say this on the camera, you got niggas like y'all who give me the game off the camera. Yo, side do, yo, side, you know what I'm saying? I can call another podcast, nigga. Yo, side. So a lot of the time when people like Philly divided, we never seen Philly together. But the ones who do rock with each other, the ones who is looking out for each other, it ain't always gotta be publicized either. They don't, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like I can me and Whiteboard been locked in since we be going to the joint down there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Come through. I'm I'm vibing with different people. I never everybody working. You get what I'm saying? Everybody working. Like, I'm the fly on the wall in the joint. Let me peep the blitz, that's how we be, and that's how we do it. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09:

So you gotta be on it, bro. Resources and bro, I watched Hutlum a long time ago. Lucky Luciano said, he told Bumpy, he said, you're not gonna make it in this game without alliances. You gotta have alliances.

SPEAKER_06:

You have to. You have to. You have to. Uh-huh. AKA if you don't have no enemies, go make some.

SPEAKER_09:

It's just like, it's just like this. Like we we I me personally, I I've been in the streets a lot of time doing a bunch of bullshit. So we doing this shit here. We pushing positivity, man. And we pushing like ain't nobody help us. We gonna help.

SPEAKER_10:

No, not only that. See, I don't know if y'all be looking at shit like me. Like, the city, we we need to like form some type of coalition. Yeah, when it comes to platforms, because you could go to any other city, and these platforms is like that. You know what I'm saying? And it's professional too.

SPEAKER_09:

Um and when it's rollout time, they gonna make it. And when they go there, yo, now go over to my brother John. He'll keep they over there. No, go to Sister John. They over there, so by the time you look out, you done did plenty of things for your roll. For one city. Or for one john. You only had to make one phone call. The next phone call me, the next phone call. The next phone call me, the next phone call.

SPEAKER_06:

It's I I'm I'm with that. The only thing is niggas, I tell people all the time, your character keeps you in the door, your talent lets you in the door. A lot of these niggas. A lot of these niggas' character made a bullshit, but you can rap good.

SPEAKER_07:

They do.

SPEAKER_06:

Right? So it's like, how many times can I deal with this bad character ass nigga?

SPEAKER_09:

No, that's why you don't, that's why I want you notice it you identify you identify it and you get away from it.

SPEAKER_06:

And then you got, and then you, I was talking to Cuz earlier, he said gatekeeping can be a positive thing and a negative thing. And I no, everything has two sides, everything has two sides. For an example, let's say a nigga want to come up on a podcast, he ain't got no motion. Right?

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, we ain't gonna gatekeep.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no. So listen, I'm going to 2000. So now, no, no, but see now, so listen, so listen. Like, right? No, because now, because now, because now Pete, Pete, that's a disservice depending on who it is. I'm not talking about a because if you got something to provide after with your 2000, let's say nigga don't got no motion, but you're trying to get some motion and you pay the you don't, but then you got an album out. You got something you selling them. It's like we can take your money, but I don't feel good taking a nigga money and you just want to come up here and sit down.

SPEAKER_10:

What you want?

SPEAKER_06:

You ain't even gonna make your money back.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Cause you ain't doing nothing.

SPEAKER_10:

You just want to count nobody's pockets, bro. No, no, no, no. I'm not let niggas do date.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm not counting. No, I'm not counting niggas' pockets, I'm not counting niggas' pockets, right? What I'm saying is if I see a nigga that don't have the guidance, that don't have the the business infrastructure, that doesn't, it's like, yo, I get you trying to go dump your money out, but how many times us and just regular business we dump money out and we ain't had that nigga to be like yo so that's when we that's you might want to you might want to get your assurance first before you do that because if you do it this way, you might have to spend an extra two thousand.

SPEAKER_10:

That's when we come together and we have little meetings and we do this with integrity. That's what I'm saying, have integrity with your company, exactly.

SPEAKER_06:

So but so that's so so that is a part of stopping you at the gate, though.

SPEAKER_10:

Uh no, no, no, yeah, get your shit in order.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly. But and I'm gonna tell you to get your so I'm gonna stop you here. You can't because now my brand is on the line. So if you come to me and you want to start up a business, and I'm like, all right, bet. So I'm gonna give you a game look real quick. I'm gonna do it. Let's say a nigga say, so I want to get some business funding, I want to get this, that the third. I'm I'm like, bet you gotta get your LOC. I'm telling you to do everything you need to do, but then when we get to the first thing, your credit bullshit. How can you put cologne on a dirty shirt? You gotta clean it first.

SPEAKER_09:

No, all right, so here we go.

SPEAKER_06:

That's my thing. So because some niggas don't understand that shit, and I don't want you to say, when you come to me, I want you to be ready to go in a certain direction. Because what's gonna happen is I'm gonna take your money and you're gonna be like, Man, that nigga ain't he ain't execute, or that nigga ain't da-da-da-da. So now, before you even before I can even walk you to A, B, and C, I gotta make sure you prep to get to A. Some niggas think you start at A. No, A is where it starts, but I gotta prep you before you get there.

SPEAKER_09:

No, see, no, see, look, you too invested. No, no, no, no, no, nigga. No, I'm listening to you.

SPEAKER_07:

No, bro, shit.

SPEAKER_09:

Bro, bro, uh by the time you get to me, my nigga, if you ain't got your shit together, then you need to go build your team and get your shit together. But when you get to me, nigga, 2,000 at this point right here. Right. You feel me? Because it I ain't and we gonna guarantee what we're gonna guarantee for that. That's for that, and that's that.

SPEAKER_05:

That's that.

SPEAKER_09:

But so far as what you gotta get together, and you get that together with you and your team. I can't invest myself in into your career like that.

SPEAKER_10:

I got artists.

SPEAKER_09:

You feel me? So by the time your ass get to me, have that together so that way.

SPEAKER_07:

When you can spend the birds together, we can put the same together, and put the money together, have that together so that way when you spend that, we can get you together. We can set the same shit. We're gonna guarantee you what we guarantee.

SPEAKER_06:

We just said the same shit before you get to me, have your shit together. That's all I'm saying. So, once again, have your shit together because guess what? A nigga can't come here that ain't got no money talking about I want to sit down on the couch, right? You gotta get you 2,000. So, guess what? I'm gonna be the nigga that says, cuz this is how you make 2,000.

SPEAKER_10:

All right, that's the that's the left side to the coin, right? When it comes to us unit, uh Uniting, right? The other side to the coin is celebrities being here. You know what I'm saying? We don't have no program for the celebrities when they come here. You feel me? Like, Lil Baby come to the city, he probably just gonna deal with Gilly Wallow and he's out of here.

SPEAKER_09:

Some young stuff. You feel me? Niggas be wanting to sit down with people. Like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_10:

And I just feel like the only reason why um people don't pass the layup is the reason I keep saying platform-wise, niggas don't got their shit together. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we we we create a coalition with these platforms or create something to where we all communicating with each other. And let's let's really really unite and start putting together little events and little things for these artists to be able to um showcase their talent.

SPEAKER_06:

That's what they do, they'll south affiliate the junkyards. You go down there for a part, they be like, we ain't got it, but they call all the other motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_10:

That's exactly how it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_06:

Damn, yo, such and such wanna be here this weekend. You can clear your schedule.

SPEAKER_10:

You ever go to the junkyard? They call out one phone that ring. Yeah, that one black phone, yeah. And it hit all the yards.

SPEAKER_06:

Hit all the joints, yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

So yeah. So that's how I look at it.

SPEAKER_06:

Niggas gotta get their egos out the way. So uh niggas gotta get the it's a competition out the way.

SPEAKER_10:

It's no competition. It's too much going on for it to be a competition.

SPEAKER_09:

That's how you feel about this. Cause you on the platform. So I gotta ask you this because he do this a lot. I I don't know. He probably doing it to keep his algorithm going. But Johnny posts or I'm gonna just say first 48, they post a lot of like everything. It be like a lot of stuff from all over. Now, when you doing that, I know people do that to keep their algorithm going, but it's not original content. How you feel about that?

SPEAKER_06:

How do I feel about not original content?

SPEAKER_09:

Like posting, like continuously posting content that's not originally from you to keep your algorithm going. How you feel about that?

SPEAKER_06:

See, I'm more like an outside type of nigga. So I I come from I don't like to be honest, I never wanted to do the internet shit. So I always was outside. So I'm one of them, like I want to get that shit out the mud. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to get it out the mud, I want to get my hands dirty, I want to brush shoulders with niggas. Like, before I seat you on the internet, I met you in person.

SPEAKER_09:

No, no question.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I mean? Before I followed him on Instagram, I never seen your Instagram. We met in person. You get what I'm saying? So that's how I am. Like, some I feel like half and I feel like sometimes I don't really pay attention to that shit. Yeah, for real, because it's like I don't really see all the content.

SPEAKER_10:

We be wanting to know what's real. I look at it like it'll keep people eyes paying attention to the logo, you know what I'm saying? Right.

SPEAKER_06:

Um, I feel like it's a marketing strategy. It's it's definitely marketing, but I feel like it's a marketing strategy.

SPEAKER_10:

It's marketing behind it.

SPEAKER_06:

I feel like it's a marketing strategy. Um, but to the I feel like like we might pay a little bit more to it because we creators ourselves, we content creators ourselves, but I think the ones that's consuming, they ain't paying attention.

SPEAKER_10:

They ain't paying attention to it. They like, damn, Donnie got so we're gonna look at it, we're gonna look at it from two different views, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

From the from the consumer aspect, you consume it. It's content, it's content from the creator aspect, it's like, especially when I like your work, it's like I want to see more of your work. Okay, like when you're a creator, it's like, yo, bro, like I ain't seen you outside in a while.

SPEAKER_10:

What so far I want you outside without your own content, right?

SPEAKER_06:

So now you get what I'm saying? So Nana's like, yo, bro, I want to see, especially because we love niggas. It's like, damn, I I I respect content, I know what it takes.

SPEAKER_10:

I respect the niggas that repost the content exactly because my content needs to be reposted. Exactly. I respect this, exactly.

SPEAKER_06:

So, like at the end of it, that's how it's like you look at it from two different lenses. I can see it from both lenses, and I ain't gonna lie, like I was talking to my uh folks, and I was like, yo, you know, I'm about to start posting more content, and I'm gonna start posting other people's content too. So no, post your shit.

SPEAKER_09:

Touch money not sety parking.

SPEAKER_06:

So he said, he said, then one of my homies, she was like, yo, post your shit.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Then my other folks, she was like, yo, post your shit. And I was like, alright, bet. And since I've been posting my own content, I probably within a my shit probably be an 18 month.

SPEAKER_10:

How long you been doing this?

SPEAKER_06:

Like for content creating?

SPEAKER_10:

Like, because being in front of the camera talking with Johnny.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't even know.

SPEAKER_10:

Alright, so within a four-year time span, you and Johnny Mack together, y'all able to host the URL, well, not URL, but the trench battle, the trenches um with uh easy to block Captain Remy Ma.

SPEAKER_09:

Started at Battle Academy, though, right? Y'all was doing that.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, they was Johnny was doing the battle academy uh stairs showing up.

SPEAKER_06:

No, so so we we would show off as no no no no we were doing stuff. Was he was he on a I was doing stuff? I think he was I was coming, I was I was pulling up on stairs okay. Yeah, they had their little falling out, okay. And because, like, you know, I fuck with St. Still, shout out to Staiz. That's my dog. Yeah, shout out to Stes. So me and Stiz had our own relationship, so I will always try to mend this shit between Johnny and Stiz, but it really wasn't nothing to bend. It just like, you know what I mean? Niggas see it, they views, nigga got they views.

SPEAKER_07:

This is my man, this is my dog.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, you know, I be mad at Johnny. It's that content shit. They be wanting their content poster. Yeah, they be up.

SPEAKER_10:

All right, but back to the back to the trenches, right? I like that y'all doing it. You know what I'm saying? Is is more to the culture, is uh is bringing more of the fully with the content. Um, how y'all even get into that?

SPEAKER_06:

So it was a big controversy with easy, different things with easy and shout out to the waves free surf, man. Shout out to surf. I love surfing surf is the reason. Oh my god, that's my dog.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So Surf wind up, Surf wind up hitting me.

SPEAKER_09:

And we was uh cuz them niggas be putting 20 on 10 with each.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, that's why I don't know if we was out, I don't know where we was at, but Surf was the first one that told us, like, you gotta help that nigga. So like, y'all got a nigga that's from up on your side that's like that, yeah. Cuz like that. And I never heard of the nigga. I never even seen it on the algorithm or nothing. Surf was the first nigga that told us, like, yo, tap in with cuz. Yeah, and that's how it happened, or whatever. So Johnny, Johnny has more of a relationship with easy than I do, or whatever. So I'm straightforward type of nigga. So it initially I feel like Easy might have like, I don't know how to take cuz, like, yeah, you know what I mean? So Johnny actually built the relationship with easy, and then me just being the muscle that I am and different shit like that. It's like come on now, yeah. You know what I mean? So that's how it is. So I but I overall though, I fuck with easy. So when he has events, I'm gonna support it. He got something going on. If he needs me to help, I'm gonna help. I know everybody in the Philly. So if it's like if we had an event, I'm at the door, make I know he got it, he's on the list, I know he's not, I know he get a pass, I know he don't. So I, you know what I mean? I'm not, I'm one of them niggas. I don't, it ain't I don't care if I'm up here, I don't care if I'm here, it don't matter where I'm at, I can be top, top dog. If I can help and assist, that's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_09:

We this are really the most exclusive. We love battle rap. Yeah, like we we interviewed Bill guys tonight, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, like we go to the battle raps and all. We we don't even we don't even post that we there.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, we ain't even going there for that. Like, we doing it. It's crazy because I'll post it up there either.

SPEAKER_10:

That's that's our time. You feel me?

SPEAKER_06:

That's like a nigga just nigga watch the clip and be like, that's how you was at the drawer.

SPEAKER_10:

Like, you know, I was uh that's a shit. We be popping up to the little rap battles, and well, I ain't gonna say little, but we pop up to the rap battles.

SPEAKER_09:

I used to I used to be up on easy, like man, they gassing him. Yeah, I used to be like that nigga with easy man for for for for like a year or two because you just know how Philly is, bro. All our battle rappers, we be knowing they moms and shit. We be knowing where they come from and shit, what house they live and shit. So I'm up out of nowhere to I was out of town for four years, I gotta book the next four years. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Then I gotta listen to them, then I'll get to listen. I'm like, all right, okay. I respect the the Rosenberg and the bill collectors. Rosenberg was my guy. I like that. I was one of them niggas that liked that Rosenberg when everybody came out. Rosenberg's still hot though. No, he liked, but but you know, he like people didn't like Rosenberg coming out. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10:

Oh, reason why I respect them dudes, they even though they not like they are cousins, man. They really rep this shit. Yeah, you feel me? You gotta respect the shit.

SPEAKER_06:

And they rep their own shit too. And they fight though. They fight.

SPEAKER_10:

And they rep their own shit when Reed and uh Kaboom and H and all them was on a fall back, them niggas was holding it down, they was waving the flag. So respect to them guys, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06:

And they the closest thing to the city, yeah. So it's like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_10:

Who you see, who you see on a come up though, on a battle tip right now in Philly.

SPEAKER_06:

On a battle tip? Yeah, they gotta be from Philly.

SPEAKER_10:

I wanna know who from Philly you got.

SPEAKER_06:

I like LND Lee. Okay, I like Young Boy. I think Youngboy's gonna be something nice.

SPEAKER_09:

Alright.

SPEAKER_06:

I like Cash. Uh hey huh? Yeah, Cash, right? Uh yeah, uh uh Gas Ganger. He was he was cow, so cash he's tall.

SPEAKER_10:

He liked what's the boy that be telling the Joe stories? Um Tech Sago. Sago, I fuck with Sago.

SPEAKER_06:

I like Mu Wap.

SPEAKER_09:

I like Mu Wap. He did good against Snake Eyes. Yeah, I like that last.

SPEAKER_05:

I like uh what the uh what's my what's my man? Uh K, I think it is K. No, what the hell is his name?

SPEAKER_06:

Ah, that shit crazy. I like news. No, news my favorite. Yeah, that's my favorite. I can't I can't how the fuck I forget news. I don't think none of them niggas hide in news.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, news my favorite.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't think none of them only nigga, only person I think hide of the news is surf.

SPEAKER_10:

But y'all don't know news surfs, t Rex, news, news my like that's how I rock is well, like they be thinking I'm I'm biased. I be trying to tell niggas to get can't fuck with news surfaces, news. Yeah, like that's see people don't know news cut from that cloth though.

SPEAKER_06:

Like news I I like news battle raps better than his regular raps.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, yeah, like he one of them though when it comes to the battle rap, yeah. Yeah, like shout out the news.

SPEAKER_06:

I like his regular, I like his battle raps.

SPEAKER_10:

For a minute, he well cut. You get in front of news, be ready.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what I mean? Yeah, I for I how the fuck I forget news. I like the Prezi, yeah. Prezi, I like Prezi, I like Prezi. But yeah, news my favorite though. News gonna smoke all of this.

SPEAKER_09:

Top floor floor, Luke.

SPEAKER_06:

Lute, all right, yeah, Luke can't fuck with my man news, though. I don't care what nobody says.

SPEAKER_09:

News, I don't think nobody can fuck with news if he likes to.

SPEAKER_06:

I just feel like news got everything, and I feel like news. See what a lot of people don't understand, what what makes surf so dangerous, and I see the same attributes and news because you can be in that building and that shit do not translate on the camera. Like sometimes that building shit be like, yo, listen, some of them niggas in that building, that shit. I'm talking about the floors be shaking, niggas stomping and shit. Like you feel that shit. Like in the building, and then to see that shit on camera, like some niggas, you can still feel the same shit similar to what you felt in the building. It's nothing like when you get a nigga that's real explosive in the building, it never it'll it'll always be better on camera. I mean, it'll always be better in the building. But you got some niggas that they might have been hot as shit in the building. Then you go back and watch it on camera and be like, damn, that shit ain't translate well. But it was hot as shit live. Yeah, but like I had niggas winning live. Go back and watch it on camera, like, damn, no, he lost that job. Right. Because cover shit translate well on camera. This shit translated in the building. Like Danny Myers is a nigga, his shit translates well, and some niggas don't got that effect, yeah. Some niggas shit just don't translate well.

SPEAKER_10:

Danny Myers, I was sitting with him at a battle watching and he's down to earth, too. Yeah, I fucking contact on Danny Maggie.

SPEAKER_06:

One thing about Danny, like he he's a real nigga, like he ain't no Hollywood. Once you start getting next, like y'all know, once y'all start getting shoulders with that's what have that's why you gotta be outside. Yeah, you gotta be. We come across this, they watch our shit like we watch their shit.

SPEAKER_09:

I ran in the bill outside, yeah, T Rex. Like ran into the T Rexterly shit, ran in the rex outside. We ran into Rex, but when we Rex a genuine nigga too. We went to interview Ron Brown's Ron Brown's car rex. I'm like, he one of my favorites, you know what I'm saying? FaceTime Rex, like, no, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_06:

So then we run into Rex, and he's real appreciative, too. Fuck with Rex, yeah. I mean, Rex real, like I call him so we talk like he he's a real humble, he a good soul, man. Like, I like you watch him on camera, and you don't even know he's that yeah, spirit, like the type of spirit he has.

SPEAKER_10:

You talked to him since that's it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I talked to him, yeah. He good, he's great. I called him um like probably like a week later, I wind up getting him on a jack. He like, thanks, uh he said it was just a heat stroke. Yeah, uh uh he said, but I you could tell because how he was shaking his hands. He was like, Yeah, you can tell.

SPEAKER_09:

Like you know, you know, it you just start tingling. Tingling the chat.

SPEAKER_06:

I said, Yeah, we just gotta start listening to our bodies. But the good thing is, like I told him on the phone that day, I'm happy that it happened to him in a sense, not that it happened, but if it happened to anybody on that stage, I'm happy that it was a great person like him. So now other people can take that shit serious because if another little nigga did it, it probably would have got swept under the rug.

SPEAKER_07:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06:

But we got a goat like Rex, it happened to him now bring awareness. So I'm happy that it was able to bring a lot of awareness behind it. Right. So it's like, you know, I did I want it to happen to him? No, but then but since it did happen, I'm happy that it did happen to him, and now so many people, the culture showed him so much love, niggas wasn't making memes about it, you know what I mean? And it was like it was it was respected.

SPEAKER_09:

The Trunchers, the next battle event. You gotta invite us.

SPEAKER_06:

It's August the 9th, I think. Is it New York?

SPEAKER_09:

We'll be there.

SPEAKER_06:

Fire. Here ice versus easy to block him. Fire. That's gonna be a different talk.

SPEAKER_09:

That's gonna be a good talk.

SPEAKER_10:

That nigga head ice talk shit. Easy gotta be ready for that. He's standing in front of some shit when he's standing in front of ice.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I would be in, you know, I'll be in the building. Here ice ain't no pushover, man. That's a battle.

SPEAKER_09:

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, that's a bad one. That's a war.

SPEAKER_09:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10:

Shout out to them guys, man.

SPEAKER_09:

What you got coming up?

SPEAKER_06:

Uh about to drop a poetry book song. I'm already done it. I gotta do the audio. About to drop the poetry book, a book of poems, and the quotes got quotes in it. I'm gonna do the audio version of it.

SPEAKER_10:

You really on your books. I seen you uh you had posts and you was like, Yeah, men need to start reading more. Like, we need to uh what you was actually saying that day. You was actually um telling people you were starting something about like men reading books.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, so basically what I wanted to do, I wanted to do a book club and just get some of the quotes out of the books that we be reading because that's what I was saying. Like JD Kiss said you want to hide something from it, he'll put it in the book, yeah. And cut of a law mash that for eye, whatever happened, happened, it was supposed to happen, it would happen the way that it was supposed to happen. Yeah, reading some of them books, whether it be life books, Islamic books, you realize a lot of the answers that you searching for is inside of them fucking books. And you be like, damn, I'm talking about like I be in my head, like, yo, cuz wrote this 20 years ago. And and it's relevant now. Facts is something that can be proven, yeah. Facts has a track record to it. Facts, that's the difference between reality. Was real, I learned this a long time ago. Real and truth is two different things. Real is what you perceive. Facts is something that never changed. Two hours ago, I wasn't in here. Probably five hours from now, all of us might be gone from out of here. And then the reality change. A nigga that's an Africa right now, that's his perception, that's his reality, which is also which is also his truth. But the only way he can prove that if that is true is if he show it that it's the truth. So we sometimes we argue two different lines. We be arguing from our point of view, which is our reality, and it might be our truth, versus the actual truth. Yeah, the truth is something that we can all that it'll never change. We was no matter what you do. I was born November 22nd, 88. I can never change that. That's facts, it's recorded, it's documented. I know it's off my record. Because if we didn't have the birth certificate to prove it, we wouldn't know when we was born, yeah. Right? So we got to deal with the facts. Say go to the birth certificate. This is when we was born, this is what it is. That's facts, right? Not man, what if I could have been born the 23rd? You have nothing to back that shit. That's your theory. Even if somebody told you that you was born the 23rd, if that birth certificate doesn't, that might just be the re the fact with that person's reality, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09:

So I say that all the time, perception versus reality.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, so no, but that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_10:

Perception is really, really, really fighting that fight perception versus reality. Like they be fighting the archive.

SPEAKER_06:

Perception is what you perceive, though. That's your reality, yeah. Yeah, so you know what I mean. But the thing is, that's because you're going through that. That's not his reality, though. That don't mean I'm going to do that. Yeah, you got a watch on. That's your reality. I don't saw you need to have a watch on. I'm saying, nigga, that's your reality. You need to have a watch on. Yeah, that's what niggas be arguing two different points of reality.

SPEAKER_10:

I might be cool with my phone.

SPEAKER_06:

This shit might not even be facts. Who the fuck said men have to have a watch? But you should be able to tell Tyler. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas be arguing from their points of reality and then be stating it like it's facts. No, nigga, that's just your perception. That's his perception. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, niggas argue from the level of knowing that understandings.

SPEAKER_10:

Because what we go by over here in the states, people don't even go by over there. Over there. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09:

Let's play a couple games before we get out of here. You ready? Let's get it. The first one called Fast Track is where I name two things, and you just gonna pick one or the other. Alright. State property of major figures. State property, Lil Baby, Lil Durk. Lil Dirk NH read dollars.

SPEAKER_06:

N H.

SPEAKER_09:

Slime or Pluto.

SPEAKER_06:

Slime.

SPEAKER_09:

Drew Hill or Jagged Ash.

SPEAKER_04:

Drew Hill.

SPEAKER_09:

Rockefeller, rough rotters.

SPEAKER_07:

Rockefeller.

SPEAKER_09:

Dame Dash or Irv Gotti.

SPEAKER_04:

Dame Dash.

SPEAKER_09:

Dipset or G unit.

SPEAKER_04:

G Unit.

SPEAKER_09:

K dot Joey Jahat.

SPEAKER_04:

Joey Jahat.

SPEAKER_10:

Preforge and H.

SPEAKER_09:

Chill, bro. Kree Forge and Enus.

SPEAKER_10:

Enus.

SPEAKER_09:

My drawing was alright.

SPEAKER_10:

My drawing was alright. That was a jaw right there. That was a draw.

SPEAKER_07:

That's a young rule. Stop it. All right.

SPEAKER_09:

Monica keeps it. Usher Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_10:

Usher.

SPEAKER_09:

Avant or tank?

SPEAKER_10:

Tank. Easy to block, Captain or Cassidy.

SPEAKER_07:

In the battle? I gotta explain it to the bottom. I can't explain it.

SPEAKER_06:

But I think easy to beat it with a block at the battle. I think I take Cassidy on the track. Yeah, I got in the battle. I got easy winning on the track battle. I got Cass.

unknown:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't think Easy can rap better than Cass on the beat.

SPEAKER_09:

T Top. Wait. T Top or J C. We're gonna move.

SPEAKER_03:

T Top. Um shout out to J C. That's my dog, too. I probably ask I probably said that fast, but I'm gonna stick with my ass.

SPEAKER_10:

T Rock or T Rex?

SPEAKER_09:

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_07:

I gotta take another rock. Cause Rox my dog. Shut up now.

SPEAKER_09:

Um who else we got?

SPEAKER_10:

Let's get it.

SPEAKER_09:

Who else we just said? What we just asked. Press or news? News. I was thinking that's somebody else for real. But news, my favorite right now.

SPEAKER_06:

Can't nobody in Philly fuck with news. Hands down. I don't care who you is as a battle rapper. You can't fuck with my guy.

SPEAKER_09:

I like news.

SPEAKER_06:

And I ain't biased. And I'm putting the house up.

SPEAKER_09:

Zan or caution.

SPEAKER_06:

Zan.

SPEAKER_09:

Um he liked that smile. I'm sticking to it. Hustle or jazz? Jazz. Forty or shoney.

SPEAKER_04:

Forty.

SPEAKER_09:

Um Farer or official.

SPEAKER_03:

I like official.

SPEAKER_09:

Swaves seven head ice.

SPEAKER_03:

Head ice.

SPEAKER_10:

Alright. Wait, wait, one more. Let me see. Uh goods are clips.

SPEAKER_04:

Goods.

SPEAKER_10:

Alright, come on. Let me go ahead.

SPEAKER_09:

Alright, this one called One Gotta Go. I'ma name four things or four people and we pickin' one to go when they go. They whole existence go. That means anybody that they dealt with signed or anything, they all go. It disappeared. Start with this one. Lil Wayne. Jeezy. Yo Gotti Gucci Man. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Lil Wayne.

SPEAKER_09:

Jeezy. Jeezy. Gucci Man. Gucci Man. Yo Gotti. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06:

Gucci Man.

SPEAKER_09:

NH3 dollars. NH. Three dollars. Joey Ja hat. Oh, I just made a new one. What the fuck that for shot right there? Say that again. NH3. Joey Jay. Meek Mill. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_07:

Damn.

unknown:

God damn.

SPEAKER_06:

What of them gotta go?

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

NH, re Dallas, Joey J. Meek. Meek Mills.

SPEAKER_10:

One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06:

Shit, if we talk about current, then I gotta get rid of Joey.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay. It don't matter. You gang rid of it. Joey was one of them bulls back then. Joey was my favorite.

SPEAKER_09:

Secret weapon, like uh Jagged Edge, 112, Drew Hill, Joe D. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06:

Jagged Edge, Drew Hill. Drew Hill ain't going nowhere. Joe D ain't going nowhere.

SPEAKER_09:

112.

SPEAKER_06:

112 and Jagged Edge. Shot Jagged Ash gotta go.

SPEAKER_10:

Yo, I gotta Philly drawn real quick. One gotta go. Philly, alright? Philly gotta, alright. Will Smith Beanie Seagull Meek Mill Blackthor One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Meek Mills. Beanie Seagull.

SPEAKER_05:

Blackthor and Will Smith.

SPEAKER_10:

All fully representative.

SPEAKER_06:

Beans can't go nowhere.

SPEAKER_10:

At all. You can talk.

SPEAKER_06:

Meek is from my era, so meek can't go nowhere. Damn.

SPEAKER_07:

Will Smith, I I Will Smith can't. I gotta go with Black Thought.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn, we're getting rid of the roots.

SPEAKER_07:

I gotta get rid of Black Thought.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a hard joy though. Because you can't none of them go nowhere.

SPEAKER_09:

Sexy Red. Shut out. Uh Glow Rilla. Lotto. Sexy Red, Glorilla. Lotto. Okay, shout out. There we go.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm probably gonna really sexy red.

SPEAKER_09:

Klizzy. China. Rocky. Clay Banks, one gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Clay Glizzy.

SPEAKER_09:

K Glizzy. Rocky. Big China. Oh Big China, one gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Big China.

SPEAKER_09:

Um that's cool. Esquerilla. O T seven quanti. Tor. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Say that again.

SPEAKER_09:

OT seven Quanti. Tor. O T7 go. Little baby, Lil Dirt, Slime, Pluto. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

Lil Baby. Lil Dirk. Slime Pluto. Damn.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm taking Lil Dirt because we probably would have his drill shit going crazy right now.

SPEAKER_07:

Lil Durk gotta go. He done created a wave of some gangstick. Demotic shit. Like, yeah, little big little dirt.

SPEAKER_09:

Rockefeller, Rough Riders. Cash Money. Gene Unit. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_05:

Cash Money.

SPEAKER_09:

Damn. Alright, this is the one. This is the last one right here. Jay-Z, Birdman. Who's no one away? P. Diddy. Dr. Dre. One gotta go.

SPEAKER_05:

Birdman.

SPEAKER_09:

Damn.

SPEAKER_10:

Everything he existed.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Yeah. He got to go.

SPEAKER_10:

Damn, Wayne.

SPEAKER_06:

Because Dr. Dre did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

You wanna get rid of all that?

SPEAKER_06:

I'm not getting rid of reasonable album. Reasonable doubt can't go. Freaking DMX had the DMX. Bro, they were scared of DMX. DMX got on like DMX was the DMX was him. Fuck no. Growing up in 9-6. Like, we wouldn't hear another.

SPEAKER_10:

No, but but we talk about man Diddy.

SPEAKER_06:

Diddy not going nowhere. Birdman. Be big. Little, yeah, Birdman got to go.

unknown:

Dang.

SPEAKER_06:

He's out of there. Yeah, he gotta go. I wasn't.

SPEAKER_10:

You asked the reasons you keep Dre, right? Who you listen to with Dre.

SPEAKER_06:

Pac. Pac ain't going nowhere. You talk about Pac his movies.

SPEAKER_07:

And all that's one little.

SPEAKER_06:

What the West Coast represent? Like, they still rockin'. Like, look, they not like us. We wouldn't have that without you. Think they're gonna let you disrespect Pac, nigga? So let's go be your list. Like, like you can't no Pac don't go nowhere. Pac and Big got to be here. All them other niggas disposable besides Of.

SPEAKER_09:

You the first person that said that everybody picked Dr. Dre. They crazy.

SPEAKER_06:

You talk about like we got listen, we got Apple Music because of Dre. Apple Music is a spin-off of Beats Music. Beats headphones and all that. It was Beats Music. That all came from Dre. And then he sold it to Apple with his headphones as well. And that's why it's Apple Music now. It used to be uh Beats music. Like he revolution. Niggas is uploading all they shit on Apple Music to this day. Niggas sending you Apple Music. There wouldn't be no Apple Music link without Dre.

SPEAKER_10:

Y'all niggas like so Dre charging us up. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_06:

This shit. Dre used to be 10. Look, look, it should be like$7, I think, when it first came out.$7 or$10. It was something light. It was some light shit when Dre first came out. Because I was on it.

SPEAKER_10:

He doubled up.

SPEAKER_06:

Man, he saw that shit.

SPEAKER_10:

Come on, man. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_06:

You gotta deal with Dre, man. Like him and them beats and all them niggas he helped produce on the side. Come on, man. You can't get rid of Dre.

SPEAKER_10:

Yo, this is the real the most podcast. I'm core networking. I'm White Boy D2A. I got Sayola in the motherfucking building. You already know.

SPEAKER_06:

Let's get it. Appreciate it. We out. We out

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