Healing with Rev Pat Moore

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Hello, and welcome to this episode of Decide on Joy, coming to you from Harmony Spiritual Center in Fort Worth, Texas. And today we have a guest with us, Reverend Pat Moore. And we're going to be talking about healing metaphysical healing. And interest, oh, and also we have Did you say your name? No, I didn't. No, my name is Jim And, and our other regular podcast host here is Yes, Reverend Dr. P. J. Stanley, and welcome, welcome. This will be a great show. I love this guest. Okay healing. Interesting to me because this is something Harmony. We don't talk about it very much. It's not, there's a lot of places that do, but we don't mentioned as being available. The chaplains, but we don't talk about it. And why is that? I really don't know, because I'm right there to answer questions always. However, you know, I don't know why we don't talk about it. The same principles apply to healing that apply to prosperity, to any of the other things that we try to teach. It's the same. Process different focus. So why don't you just, why don't you tell us about what that process would be? Because we're talking about when you say healing, tell us what you mean by that. And then tell us what the process. Healing it for, in the, let's go back to the beginning. Because over the decades, my understanding of healing has evolved. When I first began in the 19, late 1950s to follow a metaphysical path, In the Dallas Fort Worth area, there weren't very many opportunities. The one I chose was a national organization. And in the 1950s, those were very small organizations. This one happened to have its headquarters at Virginia Beach. And then the chit chat came down that some groups of people were having dinner together and the hostess Burned her, dropped hot water on her legs and burned them severely. And so they talked about taking her into the bedroom and all the guests there prayed over her and instantly the burns were gone. That's excellent. So that fascinated me and started, started that aspect. So healing at that point was just something out there that happened to you physically. Gotcha. Thank you. Over the decades, now I can see the logic energetically of the process, which is to be in contact and know that spirit is there available to you. And you can call on for anything and it responds. And you're Physical being and the emotions you're experiencing in the physical world can hamper that flow of energy just like a beaver dam in the creek. Yeah. And so that's the same thing if you want to have prosperity, you contact the divine spirit that's available to you and set things in motion that way. So it's the same process. For healing anything, your relationships, your finances, and your physical being. So when we talk about, and when you talk about, you know, reaching out to spirits, what we mean when we, certainly here at Harmony Spiritual Center, and you may have additional things that you want to share with us, when we're talking about that, we believe that we are all individualized expressions of that which is greater than ourselves. That which knows before we know. It's the inner knowing. And so when we, and it's an energetic field. And so when we talk about contacting that, we're just saying recognizing that we have that power within us to heal. Is that what you're saying when you say that? Recognize it? Yes, I totally agree. Yeah, okay. So, is that something that anyone can do? Absolutely. Are some people better at it than others? Some people are more comfortable. And Trusting in the process. Yeah, that's, yeah. Because you talked about, you just said earlier, one of you that we don't talk about it much here. Well, both of you, you said you agreed. Oh, I talked about it. Yeah. That was actually what I was going to say. Everyone knows that you're the healer here. Huh. And that when we, when anyone is, is ill, whether they're part of this community or not, Your person that people call on and say, Oh, contact Pat, because I believe that because your, your belief is so strong, your knowing of this is so strong and one of the, one of the tenants that we have here is that if you can't believe something, then find someone who does and believe in their believing that is, that is powerful as well. You can do it, but if you don't believe you can certainly contact someone who does, and they can help you. Every single church or any group that gathers in the name of the divine. Yes. We'll have someone in their group that is the official prayer or, you know, in religious science, it's practitioners and unity is a chaplains or just they're in a traditional church. I don't know what they're called, but they have them right. And you go to that person. Well, there's a energetic reason behind that. Yeah. If you are the one that is needing help. You are so tied up emotionally and constricted by your anxiety. Yes. You can't make that contact as easily. Right. But the people that do the healing all the time are so comfortable. They have seen healing occur. They know it works. They have faith in God. And like you said, they may, the patient or the client or whatever you would like to call it, It's so ridden by anxiety. They can't get in touch, but they know you can. They really know that. They've seen you do it. They know that you can do it. So, you're out there doing this dispassionately. Not connected to the pain, but connected to the source. Exactly. Exactly. Or you're not connected to somebody's poverty. You're connected to the knowing. That is an abundant universe, right? And this is part of what we talk about. And what you're saying here too, is that the universe is abundant and that includes abundant health, abundant wealth, abundant joy, abundance, everything that we, that we desire to have a wonderful life. So and sometimes just our, our, our past, you know, just how we're raised, whatever it is, it allows us to believe in one thing more than another. Right. And it's all, it's all available. And there are people out there that are natural healers. That just go through life making, if they're in your, if you're in their presence, you feel better. So that's their natural quality. They may not know anything about spirit. They may be an atheist. But they're just so filled with light. Yes. Generates healing to all that come around them, and you're drawn to those people. As you were saying, I think we all have been around those people that we know have that light. We're so, we just, we feel so warm and welcome around them, and there are people where we don't feel it, and we're like, hmm. But the difference is here at Harmony, we can share the process. Yes, how does it work? They're doing it without even knowing the process, but for people that come into this kind of a community, they learn, whether it's by osmosis, Or actually directly asking questions that that they can just evolve into that knowing exactly. And yeah, so that's, when we talk about what we do here, it is about teaching, practicing, being around those who know, so that you, until you know, so we know for you until you know yeah, exactly. So it's very powerful. So it doesn't, or does it require the recipient of the healing to To believe it. Well, People that ask for it must believe in it. But they need to ask for it, yes? And no, because, For an example, in, In this group, On Sunday, We have a group of people that are the congregants, Everyone here, Believes in healing, Or they wouldn't be here seeking. Yes. A stranger can walk in and never having been here, and I can remember a specific guest that came and he just came because of a friend. He really didn't believe anything, but he was just blown away because when he left, he felt like a hundred percent better. Yes. So he didn't believe, he didn't believe in anything we were saying, but he still You can feel it. Was gobsmacked that he could feel so incredibly different. Right. It's energetic. Why? You just feel the energy. We hear that a lot from people that step through the door, the energy they feel in this room. Right. And you don't have to believe in it. You don't. And the other thing is, they don't have to accept it. Within their, the body, each body has its own intelligence. It has its own sole awareness of what their contract might be. Yeah, okay. Maybe their contract is not to get well. So you can, we as people who love, can send healing, and we'll know it goes to them. Their sole contract may not permit their body to be healed of a specific condition. But in the same measure, it could be healed of pain. It could be healed of anxiety. So that whatever they're going through, they can do it easier. Right. There's no soul contract about that. You, you comfort them. And I, and I remember, I'm glad you said that. Cause I remember, and I think I shared this with some other people, but I remember this woman in a class that I had some years ago. And she was dealing with cancer and she was so angry and she, she said, I know this anger is what's drawing it to keep it to you. But I refused, I earned this anger and I'm going to take whatever, whatever comes with it. And so it was incredible. I know that you, you both have heard this story too. You're sick of it, but I'll share it with the audience. Healing of, when I talk about the people involved. Healing spirituality is part of, of the consciousness of mankind. Yes. So here, here's the deal. I went to New York to visit my son and this kid that had hung around our house, which were many, half of her in Texas were eating at my house. So anyway, this kid had a favorite sandwich and he had AIDS. And so he wanted, Matt wanted me to come to New York and go out on the train and see if there was anything I could do for Jack. Okay. Okay? So we're there and we have a whole schedule for the week and we were in a doctor's office because Matt had broken his ankle at an audition and he was getting the cast off. Okay. So he's in the doctor's office getting the cast off and we're sitting there in the waiting room and this large lady from Jamaica came in. So she sits down by us and she chitchats and she talks about having been psychic in her family. And then she, and the receptionist was really upset that that kind of a person. Was in her park Avenue office, not happy. So the lady pulls herself up with dignity and she says, I'm here to speak to these people specifically. So she looks at me and she says, when you go tomorrow, you go in the bathroom because you're going to have opposition in the room, go in the bathroom, wash your hands, say your prayer, do whatever you do in private. And so. She left. I've never seen her before. I've never seen her after. But so the next day we go to Jack's and there was his father, a traditional evangelical minister, orating about how Jack's, this was his punishment for choosing the gay life. Wow. And I, I looked at Jack and I could see. He'd chosen death a long time ago. He believed what his father had told him. I never in my life wanted so bad to smack somebody upside the head. I wanted to punch his lights out. But being the good person that you are. Yes, being the saint, I bit my tongue. But at any rate, and his mother wouldn't even come down to see her dying son. And I couldn't have fixed the sandwich. But there's Jack. He chosen death. There's nothing I could have done. But at that point in my education on healing, I was taking the responsibility of healing. The truth is it's none of my business. I, as a physical being, I'm not the healer. I'm just the person that knows how to contact energy and allow it to flow through me to this person. And as it goes into this person. It will go and find, like water seeking its own level. It will find what it needs to heal. The contract was already written. And Jack did die within three days. Wow. So it served some invisible function. But that weekend is the weekend I learned that whether the individual heals or not is none of my business. Got it. It. Got it. I was so pompous and so put upon myself because I could not affect healing Well, and you're a healer, but Yeah. But only if, and I think that you'd ask that question about whether they have to accept it or say yes or whatever, but in some way they do have to accept it. Whether it's their soul con, they so knows whatever it is they have to say yes, because it's not just the soul. Our bodies were designed to be perfect. They were designed to last hundreds of years. So the body has its own intelligence, every cell, and it accepts the energy of healing and it disperses where it should go. It just, that's just what happens. So the more you. By coming here, the individual that radiates light and lifts the room, imagine if they knew what they were doing, how they could use that. Right. But anybody can use it. If you have a desire to help others, you can learn the basics of the healing process. Right. One of the things that I, that I, I love to do, you know, just as a minister, is know the truth for you. Mm hmm. And the truth that I know. Is that you're capable your problem. You're an individualized expression. I know that you are here to be loved to be loved and to be loved itself. So I know that even if you can't, I can look at you. I know the truth about and that is a healing. Exactly. So exactly. So there you go. Yeah, just thought about the sole contract as a whole. Interesting. That is, that is, I think, too big a diversion to go down that path right now. But maybe a different. I think we're going to have another episode about soul contract. Not everybody. Not everybody. Ascribes to that. And so that's something we definitely want to talk about and see where that, what that means and what, and there's a lot of, there's a lot of information out there, but there's a lot of books about a lot of people believe that, so I'm only aware of the one life, so I don't, I don't agree or disagree, I don't. Well, I know that there are spiritual focused churches that don't necessarily believe in, I'm using air quotes here, they don't necessarily believe in quote God. But they believe in the energy that will turn on the computer. So it's just all a point of view. Correct. The prism through which they look. I love it. So back to a practical thing, I know in the bulletin where it says, and frequently when we mention that healing is available from the chaplains, We use the phrase healing touch, but I gather that touch is not essential. No. Well, it's not an actual physical touch. I mean, it's wonderful. It's not to be negated. Some people need the physical touch more than the energetic healing. So if they're here at present, then touch them if they're comfortable with that. Right, right. That's what they want. Yeah. But it's not necessary. But you can be, I can send. Someone healing in, in Paris. That's what I was going to ask you, do you even need to be in the room? Right. Right. Do you need to be in the room? Hmm. Right. Yeah. Hmm. Problems? No. No. I was just thinking. Well, energy just is instant. Yeah. Yeah. I, I agree. I can think of some people that could use some healing at a distance probably don't need to go down that path, but yes, that's another topic. Well, those of us in the healing community send healing to, let's say, our political people, things like that. We send love to them and let love act as love for them. Yeah, I would say they're shielding against that is pretty strong. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Because again, that's, you know, it's their choice. We everybody has their own choices to make and decisions to make and it's their life. But we get to also just inform people that there's another way. There's a possibility if you're open to it. That's it. Just let them know. Yeah. But it's not something. It's not. Hocus Pocus. Any more than the energy that contacts my computer with yours. And the thing is, is that we learn so much. We, we, we, in science and everything, we're learning so much about You know, we, we, we do those exercises or those experiments where you, Where you, where you have water, you know, Yes. Cold water. And you can say something or you can put something on it that's negative or positive. And you see the crystals that it forms just by the word that it that's on there. So we already know this many, many, many, many experiments that talk about what energy can do. So that's not, it's not a thing. It's known, but do you want to believe it or not, or use it or not? It's up to you. It's up to you. We'll just think about, for instance, the saints, or I think Paramasa Yogananda but so many people from different. Yes. Cultures. Different religions. Yes. There are bodies, the bodies that the soul left that are non corruptible. And just as fresh as they were when the person died 300 years ago. But they were of such a nature of, of spiritual perfection that their bodies never became corrupt. That's amazing. I mean, and you can go look at them right now. That's amazing. Okay. Hmm. Well. Ta da! And we're not talking about Egyptian mummies here, right? I wish I am. Mine is corrupt. Yeah other questions occur to you, PJ? Nope. I, I think we're about at a, at a ending point. At a finishing point. And we've got a couple of, a couple of other Topics that we'll come back to, we'll circle back around to another, on another program. Yeah, for sure. Cause yes, I would be curious to hear about this whole contract. Obviously I've seen references. And one more thing I would add, you're welcome to join us on Sunday. If you have questions personally, or if you feel like you might need that healing touch. All of our chaplains have been trained in this, they've gone to healing classes and they understand the process. So so we're available for you or you can leave a message on email with your or on the, on the, on the phone number on the phone number and the, those names and so forth will be given to the chaplains and we'll be happily playing for you and send you energy. Thank you for that invitation. I should also mention that that Pat has her own website that you can visit. It's called cowtownmystic. com And it's lots of fascinating material there, and we sometimes borrow her, her elements from her blog. Yes. On to our websites. And she's been picked up by other bloggers as well, so she's quite something. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for being here with this episode, and we will see you next time.