Decide On Joy

Manifestation - Discover

Jim Covault
Jim:

Hello, and welcome to Decide on Joy, a podcast coming to you from Harmony Spiritual Center in Fort Worth, Texas. My name is Jim Kovalt.

Pjae:

And my name is Rev. Dr. P. J. Stanley.

Jim:

And today We're talking about Manifestation. This is the first of a four part series on Manifestation, if we stick to the plan. And yes, yes. And we think maybe all the titles begin with D, but certainly this one does. Yes, for sure. Yes. This is called Discover.

Pjae:

Discover.

Jim:

And how is that the first part, the first step? So

Pjae:

to, for, for me, for my understanding of how we move forward into the future, we have to discover who we are. There's no point in trying to design a future, then you get there and it's not something that you want to do. So the beginning thing begins with everything, whether you're looking at a vision, or whether you're looking at manifestation. It's to make sure that you are walking into it knowing exactly who you are and what matters to you. Because all of those things are going to go forward with you. So if you're a person, let's say that that you think love is, is the highest, is the highest principle. And you don't conclude that in knowing that's what you are. You try to manifest and love is not available. It's not there because that's not. It's not something that's automatically what you do or bring to the table, you're not going to be happy there. And so you may or may not get where you say you want to go, but you won't be happy, you won't stay. So it's really this is, this is based on, on my experience of life. Having had some successes at things, having failures at things. This is what I think life is actually about. It's high school, it's college, it's always learning if you're open to learning. Who we were and who we are at one age or one place in our life is different from who we are going to be at another stage. So constantly looking at and saying, well, who am I now in this place? And did all those values come with me? Or did I understand that there's something that means something more to me than I knew before? Yeah. So it's really important that we do that. I,

Jim:

I recently saw someone else talking about this and at a different angle on it. But he said, the thing is you have to tell the truth. And what he was saying was, it's your truth.

Pjae:

Your truth.

Jim:

Who you actually are, not necessarily what labels you have acquired over time. Correct.

Pjae:

Correct. And certainly who you've been told you are. Exactly. Yeah. So many of us have. A lot of paradigms, a lot of rules for living a lot of labels that we're living with and we're unaware until it's no longer working for us. As long as things are working, you know, everything seems to be working, it's okay. It's when you come up against something, it stops working, and you're having to change, move, shift, then you start asking questions. What the heck happened? Why is that, why is that not working the way it used to work? So, one of the things, because we evolve. Hopefully, if we're living and learning we're evolving into different people. Someone asked you today whether you still go to the, go to the theater. Right. Because you have a theater background, and so that's, that's a label that you carry. And you don't. I'm a singer, but I don't go around singing anymore. I mean, I do sing when I want to, but I don't have a band. I don't do, because, and I have to look at that and think, well, why did I love it so much when I was doing it? But now it has, No real interest to me. I'm okay with jamming, and you know, I like singing, but I don't want to make a career out of it, because something greater has come up in my life, and singing was for me, and it always will be for me, but what I am doing now is about who I am, who I'm here, and I believe we're all here to do something in particular this is about who I am here to be and to do, and so, that's changed. And so you've got to reevaluate.

Jim:

And sometimes it might be something that happens, I would think, for instance, to a lot of women. One of the major labels that you might have is mom.

Pjae:

Yes. And then

Jim:

there comes a point when that's not your label anymore. I mean, it is, but it's not I mean, it

Pjae:

denesters. It's not as As, as right in your face, it's not just there and, and, and urgent as it was when the kids were small. You've got to get them. One of the, the, the goals, seriously, I mean, people laugh and think I'm kidding, but I'm not. The serious goal that I had for my son, who's very different than my daughter, was to make sure he was alive at 18. Because he, he did some boy stuff, you know, that that I, that made me concerned that he wasn't going to make it to be an adult. And so I felt like my job was to make sure he at least got. To be an adult in his life, to live, to see what, you know, what else he wanted to be. But after that, after he was an, as he, I don't have, I'm not in charge of that anymore. And now I have to actually invite him in and invite myself to just even have the conversations with him. Because he's an adult. He doesn't need my advice.

Jim:

Right. And certainly doesn't want it. And so that's the interesting thing. When that label is at least not the, the top one on your list of labels.

Pjae:

Exactly. Then what is?

Jim:

Then, yes, what is? Who, who are you without that label?

Pjae:

This is the thing, this is what sends a lot of people into a tailspin. Because you don't necessarily think about what's next when you're in the middle of what you're doing now. Sometimes what next? What's next? You know, it's coming, you know, it's like, you know, you're going to turn 25 you're not 25, you're not 30. So you don't know how to behave like that until you get there, right? So it's the same thing for all of us. So until we get to a place where we're no longer a mom, maybe you're no longer a wife, maybe no longer a husband. Maybe that relationship has changed. Maybe you're a daughter, but you no longer have a mom here with you now. Right, right. And that could be very devastating for some people. Anyway, the point being that we do evolve. We do change. Because life evolves and changes. So it's really, to me, a critical thing. I actually do it every year. You don't have to do it often, but I actually do it every year. Is to look at my values, and say, and really just the top five. Because there's so many values you can have. But I believe if you have a top five umbrella, you're Of things that matter to you and not things that people say should matter. But what actually matters to you. When you know that, so this is about discovering what matters to you. And sometimes, when you're in a relationship, it's what matters to us. Because it makes the relationship work better and so when you come out of that relationship you have to re evaluate that so that was a part Of the relationship the couple thing but as an individual that doesn't really matter that much to me

Jim:

Well and in a less than ideal situation it might also not be what matters to us But what matters to the other person exactly

Pjae:

correct exactly correct and we do things we make we make sacrifices on both sides That's like we make sacrifices, and it's not a Huge sacrifice because the the the ideal that you want is a good relationship. And so we we Sacrifice if you want to use that word certain things that would have done if we were single that we wouldn't do we were As a married couple because it's not good for the relationship. Yeah, so rethinking those things

Jim:

Yeah So how What Methods are there for getting to that point for, for, for, for finding what those five things are. Exactly. I mean, it's not like you can just sit down and say, okay, what five things?

Pjae:

Exactly. And so actually, this is, this is where the Googler comes in. I actually use Google to just Google what are Just give me a list of, actually probably AI, you can do this as well now. Just give me a list of, and how many do you want to go through? So give me a list of a hundred values. Give me a list of three hundred values. I actually have, when I do a workshop, I have a list of three hundred values. And I tell people, you know, take, just take ten, twenty minutes, whatever jumps out at you, just read them over. You don't have to study them, just read them over. If you don't even know what it means, move on. Because it doesn't really mean anything to you. But when you look at something and it resonates. When I looked at spirituality, it resonates. When I looked at love, it, my heart just jumped. It was so, it was so wonderful. When I was at kindness, so there's, so there's a number of things that you can look at that say, yeah, I'd like to be kind, but love matters more, or family matters more, or, you know what I mean? So, and so you just kind of whittle them down to, I don't know, 50? You just keep whittling them down, and then you live with it. And so what you, what I, what I recommend is that you look at those values and, you know, try to get Some that you, a handful, let's just say 10, and then walk around in your life with those kind of 10 things in mind. Remind yourself, you can put it in your wallet, put it in your purse, and you can see it, you can put it on your wall, and say, okay, so today I'm going to show up as these 10 things. So, you know, courageous. You know impeccable with my word whatever those things might be and see as you're going up through your day Which one actually shows up the most which one do you actually use the most which one resonates the most? So when you're in a conversation with someone when you decide to make a decision about something Which one of those values actually helps guide you and so some of those will drop off because you know I don't actually use this because this other one overrides all of them anyway So you'll find that there'll be some overriding values that all the other things, a number of the other things, are subsumed underneath them.

Jim:

And so how does that help with manifestation?

Pjae:

So again, because you get to be clear about who you are and what matters to you. There's energy around these values, about how you show up. And so, when you're looking at how you want to manifest the life that you want, because it's not just manifesting things, it's manifesting a life. And these things are in your life. So, manifesting a life means manifesting your life. And so your life has to include what matters to you. And so it begins with knowing who you are. What matters the most to you. That's where it starts.

Jim:

Yeah. I know some, I don't know if you would agree with this, but there certainly are some sources that say you already have everything, it's just a matter of allowing it. In

Pjae:

terms of the universe being

Jim:

abundant. Yes. I mean, whatever, whatever it is you,

Pjae:

yeah. Okay. So let me just restate that. I get that. I get what you're saying. And so I think what it could mean actually, is that everything is already available. Yes. Yeah. I didn't mean that you already have it in your hand,

Jim:

but it is there. It is

Pjae:

available because the universe is abundant and you are a part of the universe, so it means that you can draw to you. Whatever you like, but what happens is, and this is going to be as we move forward into this manifestation process, there are other things that we're going to be talking about in order for you to draw those things into your life. So the first thing becomes, you become a magnet to, and attract who you are. You're attracting your life, who you are, the places, the people, the circumstances. So if you're a person that's a, that's a loving person, you're going to attract loving people, people that aren't. will not care for you. They, they, they will not be attracted to you or you can see right away that they don't agree with you. And so they're not, they're not, they're not, they don't care for how you show up. And that's fine. You're not going to be for everybody. Everybody isn't going to be for you. That's okay. We don't need a million people in our lives. We need a circle of friends. We need a circle of people that we support that support us.

Jim:

Yeah, some, some of us seem to need a million people in our lives, but yes.

Pjae:

Yeah. But in reality, in a physical world, you know, what do you, who, what, who can you really count on? One of the, one of the, I love this term, which is a ride or die. It's a little bit difficult. I mean, it's a little tough saying to say that, but it's the person who I know will show up for me. And I will show up for them. These are the kinds of people, not everybody in my circle is that person. How many, how many of those people do you actually have? I know my sister will show up for me and I'll show up for her. I know this. My daughter, my son. There's some people that I know I'll show up for and some people, well, if it's convenient, I'll, may show up, may not. But that doesn't have anything to do with your values. But the, in terms of your values, those will actually help you with saying, who will you show up for? Who will you show up, ride or die, because of what you, what you value. And for me, it is family and community. They're in my top five. Family means a lot to me. So does my spiritual community. So I'll, so they're in my top five.

Jim:

Yeah. And and to be clear, we're not prescribing that. You, listener, should have those same values. Thank you for saying that. Because I, for instance, have very little family, and so my take on that is a totally different thing.

Pjae:

Exactly correct. Exactly

Jim:

correct. And yours might be as well.

Pjae:

Exactly. And so, and I'm so glad you brought that up, because if those are in my top five, the way that I behave then becomes what my family calls, my family needs me. They're, they're, they, they, they, they're higher in my priority in terms of rearranging my schedule to help them, to be around them. They're very important, and anyone who knows me knows that I drop pretty much everything to be around my family, to help friends, and, and my, and my inner circle. That's, that's what I do, because that's what matters to me. So you can begin to see how having your values clarified will help you make decisions. So you don't have to every single time you make a decision sit down and think about. Well, should I do this? Should I do that? They're in your top five. It's going to be pretty much a no brainer what you should do. What you want to do and how you want to show up. And who you want to show up for.

Jim:

Mm hmm. Yeah, I've run out of questions.

Pjae:

I mean, it's just kind of an ongoing situation, but the bottom line that I want to share is that you can have as many as you want. The reason why I recommend five. It's because it's something you can handle. It's something you can keep in the, you know, it's like we, and I don't know that this is the case now, but when we used to come up with phone numbers, it's because we can keep seven numbers in our head at once. And so I say five. You can keep that in your head. You can walk around. So what I call the top five values is your DRM, which is your daily road map. Daily road map. DRM. How am I going to show up for everything in my life today? How am I going to show up? And so if I know who I am, I know how I want to show up, and at the end of the day, I don't have regrets. I showed up as me. Maybe everything didn't work out the way I wanted, maybe I didn't get all I wanted, but I showed up as me. What else is there?

Jim:

Okay, we can stop there for this episode, and we'll see you the next time when we have the second part of the Manifestation series, whatever its title may be. Thank you for being with us, and we'll see you then.