Decide On Joy

Partners in Believing - Mastermind

• Jim Covault

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Jim:

Hello and welcome to this episode of Decide on Joy, a podcast coming to you from Harmony Spiritual Center in for Worth, Texas. My name is Jim Koval

Pjae:

and my name is Reverend Dr. PJ Stanley. Thanks so much for being here and welcome.

Jim:

And today we're talking about partners in believing this is a second. Addition of partners in Believing with a subtitle, mastermind. Mastermind. This is different from the first one, which was a couple months ago. So what are we talking about? Are we talking about Mastermind?

Pjae:

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, this is always about, I I think that decide on Joey is about how we just have the best life we possibly can in even given any given moment. And these are about laws and things that we can do and. People that we wanna be around that can help us. We can help one another. What we're here to do is, what we believe we're here to do is to help and serve one another. So a mastermind group is, is a group of people that when you've decided that you want to know something, maybe it's that you, you, you wanting to get your degree, your, your undergrad degree, or to grad degree, whatever it is or you decided that you want to, yeah, take some trips. You wanna take some, and maybe you're a particular age and you wanna take some senior trips. Who knows? Anyway, so you, you gather around you 3, 4, 5 people, no more than that probably that have some expertise in this area that's different than the expertise that you have. So that between all of you, you can come up with everything that you probably need to know about that subject, that can help you be more, have more information about it, that can help you make decisions about it. And so you don't have to worry about, that's part of the, the issue with us moving forward and making decisions about what we wanna do is that we don't actually know how we're going to do it. And so understanding the power of a mastermind group, that's another way for you to understand and know that you don't have to know everything. What you want to do. And this is something I think our parents told us many years ago. Surround yourself with people who are doing things that you want to do.

Jim:

Maybe your parents.

Pjae:

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, true. We were just talking about parents a, a little ago. And, but yeah, so my parents would say stuff like, stop hanging around with those dummies if you don't, if you don't wanna flunk out, that's what, so hang around with smart people. And so that's kind of the, the idea. If you don't wanna flunk out, hang around with smart people. If you want to know something more, do something that you're not really sure how to get that done, then gather yourself around people who do know how to do that who do have some information and. When, when, when two or more are gathered, this is a kind of a biblical thing, but when two or more are gathered, there's, there's just much more information. The mind, the Mastermind shows up. So it's like almost inviting the intuitive part of you to come together and know something that you wouldn't know by yourself. The Mastermind is kind of the same concept. You start with some information, but also between all of you, you, you, you're much more powerful and the information that you need comes to you quickly, easily, and really well.

Jim:

So. You initially, probably the first thing you, you would want people who, who shared your beliefs about whatever it was you were doing basically anyway. I mean, you wouldn't want, say if it was, oh, I don't know. Say you were, I mean the examples you, Brent mentioned, that doesn't really fit. But if it was something spiritual, you wouldn't say. Want to go out and find a couple of evangelicals to be

Pjae:

part of, or some heathens.

Jim:

Yeah. Although they might be more interested, they might be more interest than others. Might.

Pjae:

Absolutely. More fun. But No, no, you're, you're, you're you. I, I see where you're going with it. And it is about, about having people that. Believe in what you're wanting to believe in. So in other words, you want to take a trip and you know that, you know you wanna go to Europe or someplace you've never been. So yes, there are people that believe that going there is a great thing. Yeah. So in that way, you know, so it's not a belief system. In that instance, you

Jim:

wouldn't want people who think that travel is not a good thing. Exactly.

Pjae:

Exactly. So they have a belief in that particular thing. Yes. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Jim:

And so are you looking for people with different areas of expertise or are.

Pjae:

I think, I think you are. I think there's a couple of things you can do. There's no wrong, I don't think there's a wrong way to do it.'cause it's all, it'll always be surprising and people have more pockets of information that they than they think that they know. So just the fact of getting together with this idea of having more information about whatever it is you want more information about will start to draw to you the people that you're looking for that you don't necessarily know you're looking for information because as you're together for. You know, some mastermind groups have been together for years based on what it is that they want to know. It could be like stock, like they want to know how to pick stock, so there's no need to break up because, you know, that's always changing. And some people are together for a short time. Let's say that you want to take a trip, you don't need to be together for years to take a trip. So it depends on what it is you are getting together to do. But yeah. So as you are together, let's say, let's say you are a group that's together for six months to a year. When you first get together, like, let's say there's five of you, the five of you have a particular set of information, but of course you're going to talk with each other, you're going to share information, read more, talk about it so that there are other people outside the group that will start to give you more information. So the group and the mastermind grows in terms of what you know, then you would, you wouldn't have known by yourself. So it's really a, it's really quite an amazing thing to do, an amazing group and. Rather than just getting together and there's nothing wrong with it, I'm just saying. But rather than get together like we mostly do and say just have a party or get together for dinner, which again is great'cause that's a nice social thing. This is to getting together to grow your mind, to grow something that you want to know more about. Mm-hmm. So it's just a really powerful tool,

Jim:

right?

Pjae:

Yeah.

Jim:

And, and so the, the idea is that as a group you would know more than any individual in there. Yes.

Pjae:

That is exactly, that is exactly the idea. The group, group mind. And we know what group mind does sometimes, I mean, we talk about or hear about group mind in kind of a negative way. Can

Jim:

be.

Pjae:

It can be, it can, and it's like anything else. It can be used for great things or not. And so I'm talking about using group mind. To, to have more positive and you go in it with a positive idea. And yeah, I, I'm talking about it from a positive perspective. Sure, you can do whatever you want to Sure. But you go in it with a positive idea that I want to know something and I want to know more. And I wanna know how to do this. I, I I, I love like saying, getting around musicians or even, or, or app creative people. I, I say things like, and I know how powerful words. Can be, and so I know better than to say it, but from a human perspective, I look at myself trying to draw and it is a catastrophe. It's a catastrophe. I, I can't draw a straight line without a ruler. It's just even with a ruler, I'm not sure how straight it's gonna be.

Jim:

I don't know why people think that that means anything. I mean, there you go. It's not like that's a major goal of art. Draw a straight line is to draw a straight line. It's not, no. Unless you're an architect and then you're using software. So, you know.

Pjae:

Exactly. I know. But it's like, it's like, it's the simplest thing to do when you talk about draw, draw a line, you know, draw a straight line and I can't do it. So that's why when I think about drawing, that's the example that I use, but it's very fearful for me. So to be around people who are very confident in that and who who recognize. Eyes that people have different areas of expertise and different, different, we can look at what makes art very differently. So, so my idea of art, it might just be to be able to draw a picture of something where someone else's idea of art could be to create jewelry or it's, it's a more a creative aspect. And so, you know, getting together with a mastermind group expands your mind, expands how you think about things and expands. You allow in and it brings down your fear. So again, back to what decide on joy is about it, it's about not only the laws of, of creation, but it's also about humanity and the people around us and what is available to us that we're not necessarily aware of to help us expand our lives in ways we decide it wants to, we want to expand it. So that's just, this is just another way.

Jim:

Yeah. Sometimes, sometimes. If you're afraid to do something or maybe afraid isn't the right word, but if you're cautious about something, it may, may be coming from that you don't know about it. Exactly.'cause we're, we're sometimes naturally

Pjae:

Yes.

Jim:

A bit fearful of things that we don't know.

Pjae:

Correct. And we don't wanna look crazy or stupid. Yeah. And somehow because we don't know something, the natural assumption is you're stupid about that. And that is not, not true at all. It's just that you're un uneducated about it. It.

Jim:

Yeah.

Pjae:

You have no examples of it, but it doesn't mean you're stupid about

Jim:

it. Yeah. I mean, in your trip example, I mean, you, one of your group could, if you were thinking of going to, I, I don't know.

Pjae:

Well, I go to Thailand a lot. I've gone, I've lived in Asia, I've lived in Thailand, and people ask me questions about it all the time, which I love to share with them. Sure. Because I know. Of fears I had before I went. Right. And getting in touch with someone who lived there, there was a an expat group online that you could just ask questions about and the person took us in his hand and said, no, this is what it's like. This is what it's like. I'll meet you when you get there and I'll help you and I'll introduce you to people. So he was a mastermind for my husband and I Yeah. And part of the mastermind group when we got there, and now we love it. So yeah, that's a very good example of that.

Jim:

So. Is this a like a formal thing you actually say, okay, we are a mastermind group, or is it just casual?

Pjae:

You generally, most people that I know that have one do call it that so that everybody is understanding why we're coming together. We're coming together with the expectation of. Creating a bigger mind, creating more information. And so we have that as we are moving forward and we're thinking about, we're out just doing something else that'll pop in, oh, this would be good for the mastermind. And that just whether you even speak to them or not, there's just something about that mastermind, it's almost like intuition that you're starting to build on that. And so it's part of that. So you go back to your question, so what's the shared value?

Jim:

It is that, so it's, it's according to your notes here, it's important for the group to have like some shared values. Yes.

Pjae:

Yes, yes. It is. And, and actually it's be, it's a, it's that we're united in why we're there. That's a, we have a shared value in that, that we're united for the idea that we're come, that we've come together for. You do want to travel or you you do wanna know more about how to become a great artist or, or, so that's a shared value that we want to learn something more,

Jim:

right. I mean, it seems like it might go a bit further that, I mean, it might, that you would want people who shared your values about why you were traveling. You know, you might not want people who were only interested in traveling so they could go to, so they could shop in different places. True.

Pjae:

That's true. I wouldn't be interested in that. And certainly, you know, when I think about the, the reasons why I travel, there's a, a group of people here that are getting ready to go to, is it Scotland? I think, and I think we talked about that, about it's not that easy to get around and, you know, it's a little hill. I mean, it's beautiful. I hear great things about it, but but you know, it is, it is it's, it's not a, a country that has a lot, a lot of paved roads and. Easy to get around walking. Well, it has big roads walking. I know, but it's hilly. Yes, it's very hilly and all of that. So so are people who might have how do you say, accessibility. Thank you. That's the word I'm looking for. That's not someplace they might wanna travel on. That might be a something that they, that's a shared value. That it has to be someplace that's accessible. And that wouldn't be a, that wouldn't be a concern for me.

Jim:

Right. Would and also important some mutual respect for each other's Absolutely. Common experience. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes.

Pjae:

And a common purpose. You know, you talked about why we, why we're together, and this is part of that, right? The common purpose is, yeah, we have, we love to travel to see new places, to meet new people. That's really what the reason why I, I love experiencing foods. The, the, one of the things that was so amazing to me, I don't know why, but it just was, was the nationalism of the people. That where I went in terms of how proud they were of their culture and really wanted to share that. And that's why I went so that I could share it, so I could understand what are some of the things that you do and you love. And so that's the reason why I love to travel. Not everybody wants to, I want to go travel. I want to get, I wanna be, I wanna swim and be on the beach. I wanna surf. No, thank you.

Jim:

Yeah, no thanks. Yeah. And that would apply in other. Areas as well, right? I mean if say you were a group about writing yes. You would probably want people who shared an interest in a particular sort of writing. Not that is just say,

Pjae:

yeah, haiku, I'm not interested in writing ku. Or

Jim:

you wouldn't want people whose specialist specialty was in scientific.

Pjae:

Manuals, technical journals. Yeah. That's not,

Jim:

yeah,

Pjae:

exactly. So there would need to be some kind of common purpose and, and values and beliefs in terms of about the idea that you're talking about or that you're coming together for. What, why are we coming together for this particular thing? What is it we want to accomplish together? Yeah. So we need to, then that has to be a discussion. And generally you're pulling people in if you're the one that's starting it or you're being invited in, that's part of what, what you wanna talk about at the beginning. Why are we getting. Together, what is the hope? And you discuss that you may not have the same hope,

Jim:

right?

Pjae:

Yeah.

Jim:

Right. Yeah.

Pjae:

Okay. Alright,

Jim:

That we can end this one there and you can go create your mastermind group and let us know how that works. I will look forward

Pjae:

to a podcast about that.

Jim:

Yes. I meant our listeners could go and create their but. We're always glad to hear from you and you can, you know, send us an email or contact@harmonyfw.org. Yeah. Or probably you can comment on the, on the podcast. You certainly can. So that's the end of this episode and we'll see you next time. Thanks for joining us. Yay.