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Prosecutor Bible Study Time : Last One : Prosecutor Jason Simmons
The evidence is overwhelming, an innocent man sits in prison while a corrupt cop is free.
Washington State Supreme Court committing right rape, King County Prosecutor: Prosecutor Mark Larson, Prosecutor Lisa Johnson, Prosecutor Nicole Weston, Prosecutor Rich Anderson and Prosecutor Jason Simmons. Judge Beth M. Andrus, Judge Lori K. Smith, Prosecutor Leesa Manion, King County Prosecutors Office, City of Enumclaw.
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Jacob, let's skip the intro and get right to it.
Speaker 2:Prosecutor. Bible study time is ended, ended without repentance, ended without justice done, ended without truth in King County courts. Let their choices be sealed in God's court. Let the curse of his holiness finish its work. If anyone does not love the Lord, a curse be on him. Come O Lord. 1 Corinthians 16.22. The Consider podcast Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness. Wwwconsiderinfo.
Speaker 1:Jacob, it looks like we're going to need to stop. Prosecutor Bible study time Doesn't mean we're not going to talk about the trial, doesn't mean we won't go into some other areas. Study time Doesn't mean we're not going to talk about the trial, doesn't mean we won't go into some other areas. But the whole prosecutor Bible study time has got to come to an end for one simple reason Nobody's repenting. To press on and go further, I'd have to go into why you need to be saved, how to be saved and to become a disciple of Jesus. And there ain't nobody in Seattle, king County, washington that appears to actually want to repent. How's it going, jacob? Jacob, all right. How are you, darrell Bock, doing? All right?
Speaker 1:Looking at Proverbs 18, 5, which says and it's so obvious, it's amazing how God has to teach us, but we're all children, including myself. It says it is not good to be partial to the wicked or to deprive the innocent of justice. Not a smart move. But King County prosecutors did, judge Lori K Smith, beth Andrews, a whole host of other people did. Just was not very, shall we say, smart. Jacob question you know Prosecutor Simmons and Judge Laurie K Smith. They hammered the homeschool thing. You know the prejudice against homeschool that they don't do anything.
Speaker 3:They don't do anything. Every day is the same. She was homeschooled. This explains it.
Speaker 1:Bored out of her mind and just a zombie and mentally gone because she was homeschooled. This explains it bored out of her mind and just a zombie and mentally gone because she was homeschooled. Well, you know, the question I have is how did he know that it was safe to bring up and ridicule homeschool in front of a whole group of juries? What if there had been two or three people that actually homeschooled their children sitting on the jury? Would that have worked?
Speaker 3:um no, no, you, he, uh. He had to know it was a a safe space or yeah, like it would be okay to slam homeschools.
Speaker 1:The way he did it so hard, so harsh, harsh and, of course, total unreality. It didn't even reflect the truth of what went on. Sound Dr Church, let alone by among homeschoolers. He played to the usual prejudice, but the only way he would have known that it was safe to go lock and hammer for that was he knew nobody sitting on that jury homeschooled their children or associated with people who homeschooled their children. So he cheated. Oh, of course, this thing was a cheat from beginning to end. There was nothing fair about it. We're going to look at a trial here at the end. And it was more fair as back during roman's time than what happened today. And we found out.
Speaker 1:I did some hell. I've been digging a lot of research, doing freedom, information requests, digging, digging around and asking Kind of, and some people, you kind of keep coming at the question because they just don't want to answer. Well, one of the questions we were after was well, what rules do judges have to follow when it comes to selecting who sits on a jury? Okay, yeah, they didn't want to answer, which is normal. I mean, sometimes they'll answer things that are clear or whatever, but in this particular case, we had to keep coming back at it again and again, finally, because you're going well, give me the list, you know, give me the check box and point me to the rules and show me there. So we're really hammering because we're just not getting an answer. Finally, finally, we get an answer and the answer is this there are no rules that judges have to follow. In fact, the quote was it's up to the judge. Whatever they want to do, well, they're just making it up.
Speaker 3:They literally there's no guidelines, there's none whatsoever.
Speaker 1:There's not even case law. What about?
Speaker 3:case law from the past Case law.
Speaker 1:No don't even have that. No just willy-nilly. It was not like we got a message back saying, well, they follow case law and they follow the Constitution, and there's things built into the Washington state legal system by which the judges are confined and have to maintain an independent type structure for a jury pool.
Speaker 3:None of that. To make sure it's fair and unbiased, correct, they didn't even say anything like that. Nope, simply was you know push come to shove.
Speaker 1:There was no lot of extra words, it simply was. It's totally up to the judge. Crazy, now people really need to think about that. The next time you see a cop that you know is guilty that gets off, you can blame the judge and the prosecutor because they're allowed to do any mechanism whatsoever. I mean, they can sit there and do little pop-up dice, throw cards, do whatever they want to do to pick a jury, and they're in cahoots completely with the prosecutors. They know what they were doing.
Speaker 1:This case especially really honed in that they were after the church. It had nothing to do with the trial. In fact, if you were listening to this, you have to understand this trial had nothing to do with the facts of the accused crime. It was a false accusation, totally provable, to take down a church or a Christianity that the Washington state did not agree with. You can go back and listen to all the podcasts, look at the evidence. That's just overwhelming. But it was amazing to learn that. You can go back and listen to all the podcasts, look at the evidence. That that's just overwhelming. But it was amazing to learn that they can do whatever they want. So now you know why dirty cops walk free. Now you know why. Uh, lisa manning, the prosecutor, was able to come to the conclusion that 22 000 emails just got deleted by accident and everybody was just too stupid. We'll get into that later, but it's totally a cheat from get-go to beginning. When you serve on jury duty, keep that in mind, that they are cheating, lying, they are inducing false accusations. They are just making up stories.
Speaker 1:In fact, prosecutor Simmons, as he talked about St Dr Church, it was no reflection of our church and they offered no proof of all the accusations. They were saying he would go, yeah, homeschooling. She was isolated, she was separated, she had no friends, she was like this zombie character. She was just trapped, and they couldn't use the cult word, but trapped in this cult. There was no proof, no, no proof whatsoever. All right, how do you like that little bit of wisdom to know what's going on in King County? Jacob, it is, it's wild. I haven't discovered one honest thing they actually have done, and that's not coming from bias, that's just the facts. I would have loved to find one thing to go okay, yeah, this is factual, this is truthful, this is legal, this is proper. But I couldn't find any. Can you think?
Speaker 3:of any. No, it's just so dirty. It's literally like the mob, you know as far as mafia days, and they all are just vying for money and power and their agenda. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1:And I'm sorry I got to correct you from my books and reading on the mob. They have tighter rules.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the mob had more structure. Like you can only whack a guy with this and these are the rules.
Speaker 1:If you do this if you fail here this happens.
Speaker 1:It was pretty laid out. I'm not telling you that the mob are squeaky clean, but from what my examination is, the mob are squeaky clean, but from what my examination is, they're more or they were more structured and put together than king county courts by far. I mean, after all, you've got judge laurie, kate smith and prosecutor simmons going oh, let's just do away with the constitution of washington concerning freedom of religion. Oh, yeah, yeah, let's just do that, just just on the whim, like as fast as you can do it. No real discussion, discussion, nothing.
Speaker 1:Again, I don't want to go over the whole thing, but people don't understand jury duty is a dog and pony show. It's meaningless. In fact it's less than meaningless. It deprives the innocent of justice and they put innocent people on trial that should never even go to trial. In fact, in this particular trial, you know I was never interested in a fair trial, ever trial. You know I was never interested in a fair trial ever.
Speaker 1:I was interested in an honest trial which meant detective grant mccall and his co-conspirator to start with would have been the ones on trial. So I don't even want to hear anybody come back from king county and go well, yeah, you needed an honest trial. No, the trial should have never happened because the crime was somewhere else. We were not the crime. The state of Washington, the city of Enumclaw, the people that were involved in this hate crime, that's where the crime is and those are the people that should have been put on trial. But of course, king County doesn't prosecute people who lie. They invite people to lie. So I'm repeating myself but suppose you just walk into the lovely daycare centers and you go, all of you kids can lie and nobody will be punished, because we're looking for people that actually do other stuff. What do you think would happen?
Speaker 1:um, everybody would just lie non-stop yeah, it actually would be what it is? A total, complete mess, exactly. All right, go ahead and play the dog and pony show, because it's not just me that's referring to. Jury duty is a dog and pony show, it's king, county prosecutors, jury selection, october 2006, washington state, seattle, king county prosecutors, courtroom 4g.
Speaker 5:prosecutor paul sewell, have you been selected for jury duty in the past? Then you have been through this dog and pony show before the consider podcast examining today's madness, folly and wisdom.
Speaker 1:wwwconsiderinfo the next section. Here jacob is kind of cute in an evil sort of way and we're repeating a little bit. But this is the fundamental level. This is where things got started. This is City of Enumclaw Detective Grant McCall, and this is some of the first lines he states in the courtroom and he's lying and Beth Andrews justifies the lie and whitewashes it. But we need to listen very, very carefully and I'll probably have you play this a couple times as we discuss it. Listen carefully to what this detective is saying. Go ahead and play that, Jacob.
Speaker 6:When a new church comes into a community, the first thing they do is send out flyers to everybody and say we're in the church and we'd like people to come. We have this, going on, this, going on this, going on a bunch of things. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in.
Speaker 4:We didn't even know they were there.
Speaker 6:They just came in. They just came in.
Speaker 1:Jacob, how'd you like the way he was dressed?
Speaker 3:Um, he looked like a pretty sharp dresser.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why didn't he have his uniform on? Um, I don't know. Well, for one thing, the city of Yom Kippur paid, as far as we can determine, at least $50,000 to clean up his little speech. So, rather than come in on this, because in the what am I trying to say? The hearing for misconduct. Misconduct hearing yes in the um, what I'm trying to say, the hearing from this misconduct hearing, yes, and he really was coming across as the bigoted fool that he was, and he was the evidence, both of them there.
Speaker 3:He was a bigoted fool, but go ahead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hear you I mean we've got, we've got lines and quotes from both, but absolutely the.
Speaker 3:The other one was unfiltered.
Speaker 1:Unfiltered raw, exactly who he was, the self-arrogance, the lies, it was all back and forth. Oh yeah, you can only clean it up so much. It's just extremely goading at the injustice that City of Enumclaw can sit there and manipulate evidence, wipe the blood off the knife, so to speak. And then of course they deleted all the evidence they had later on when I tried to get that and you know they quote the law but of course they knew he was the evidence. That's why you're paying an outside legal force to clean up his act. So he comes in in this nice gray I don't know if it's flannel, but kind of a grain. And what was it? A kind of a? What kind of? I'm trying to think of the color periwinkle tie.
Speaker 3:Um here I'll got the crew cut and he's coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a soft periwinkle yeah, and how do you like the notebook in front of him, isn't that?
Speaker 3:cute, that is cute. Well, I think, well, I think, uh, somebody placed that in front of him for reference or something.
Speaker 1:It could be, but I can't remember. You were there in the courtroom. Did they Somebody else put it there or did he bring it there?
Speaker 3:No, because he was fumbling around all over the place. Oh, oh, oh, I can't. If you had a dollar for every time he went. I don't remember, I don't remember.
Speaker 1:That's right. I don't remember.
Speaker 3:So, no, so Ann would whip out these massive notebooks because he can't remember anything. If you asked him what he had for breakfast, he probably wouldn't have known. So she whips out these notebooks and says on this page this is what you said, that's what the notebook is from.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I got it, got it. I'm glad you reminded me.
Speaker 3:Anyways, not to go off on a tangent, but that's where the notebooks came from.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm glad you corrected me. I tell you there's so much injustice here. I don't want to say anything that isn't actually factual, but it's very hard to keep it all straight.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, yeah. His lies and the way he talks is crazy.
Speaker 1:And the whole system and what's going on, so it's a complete mess. People need to think about what he's saying. Quote when a new church comes into the community, the first thing they do is pass out flyers and do all these things. But we didn't even know they were there.
Speaker 3:We didn't know they were there.
Speaker 1:Has the state of Washington never heard of the Constitution of the United States?
Speaker 1:I mean what kind of police people do? Well, clearly they have. And Judge Laurie Kate Smith just goes yeah, it doesn't apply, whatever, just get it out of here. You can see why. He's sitting in a court of law, literally saying that when we showed up to start the church in Enumclaw, we were supposed to notify who Him, the Chamber of Commerce, or you know. We've been there four days and we're supposed to pass out flyers. What exactly is he saying? But that's you know.
Speaker 3:We can even discuss that, but that he's even allowed to say it Correct Because, well, you know, part of this is still his religious bias.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's saying it in a court of law.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I agree, it's absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1:That's like saying I think they're Jews and they should be gassed, and then nobody says anything Correct, and I'm not over-exaggerating. He's got no place holding that opinion. No, as a policeman he definitely should have been fired before, because this isn't the first time that he's come out with. And, second of all, he's lying. He knew we were there and we've got the proof to have that anyway, so he's lying up front. But the point is, think about if and this is what's going on behind the scenes. So you've got all these police in Washington State and all these prosecutors and all these judges. Though they can't say it, though they're not sitting in that place, they're thinking we need to know exactly what all Christian churches are doing at all time and they just can't show up. Correct? I don't want to move too fast here. Play this again. And I don't care who you are, whether you're a christian or not, you need to wake up any any, any religious freedom, even if you were a muslim or you know whatever you wanted to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, does the american constitution, you know? Do we follow it or not? Because it's religious freedom that we're talking about.
Speaker 1:And this is way beyond religion freedom. This is just showing up to town, correct? This is like I'm traveling from let's see, enumclaw to southern Seattle. I'm supposed to let southern Seattle know that I'm with a church and that I'm coming into town. Mm-hmm, that he's even getting by with this and nobody's grabbing the vomit bags in front of the court. I call them pews, court pews. He's got no business even getting close to this. Yet you got a jury going. Oh yeah, he must be guilty. They just showed up to town. Has nothing to do with the crime in the first place. Like if I had showed up to you know what if we'd have showed up let's say we'd have showed up on the first day and the next day we're passing out flyers. What do you think the accusation would have been? They're showing everybody's face, they're pushing, they're disturbing the peace.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:He's pushing their tracks. They're all doing his bidding. You didn't see him out in the street? It would go on and on and and I don't want to emphasize he's not just saying this to say this he literally believes. He literally believes that we were supposed to, in some abstract fashion, notify him and even call police and I don't know who all else in the town and everybody that lived there, that we were there by having flyers and stating that we had all these events going on. That's literally what he's saying. Those are his words. Yes, you know, you might as well just said the earth is flat, because this is not even logical. We literally could show up to town and we're not even given 48 hours to get organized. We show up to town. We don't have a place to live. We're looking for a place, but we're going to hold a picnic.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Any comments? We don't have a place to live. We're looking for, but we're going to hold a picnic. Any comments on that, jacob? No, this is just how serious the washington state supreme court has right raped christianity and there aren't going to be enough people to. I mean, after all, they vote for bob ferguson on, and what's the main reason they vote for him, jacob? The abortion.
Speaker 3:Oh sure.
Speaker 1:Push comes to shove. That's one of the main things. So I mean, if you're writing in on the blood of children, church freedom doesn't really mean anything. Play it one more time and then we're going to go into another little lie that a city of England called Detective Grant McCall decided that he was the judge and jury on.
Speaker 6:When a new church comes into a community, the first thing they do is send out flyers to everybody and say we're in the church and we'd like people to come. We have this, going on, this, going on this, going on a bunch of things. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in. We didn't even know they were there, they just came in.
Speaker 1:They just came in, everybody get together and figure out what all those other things you're supposed to be doing that you have to announce and do, because that's the attitude of the police in Washington State. Clearly, because he's not been ostracized, he was promoted. So clearly they approve of what he's saying here. Okay, let's press on to. Okay, let's press on to it. Didn't take long for his lies to get exposed, even in the court. Correct, jacob.
Speaker 3:Correct. Oh yeah, as soon as you ask kind of any questions at all, it doesn't go well.
Speaker 1:Correct the only people again who's picking the jury Judge Lori K Smith and the prosecutors. So you're not getting the smartest group of people sitting there. In fact, you're going to get the people that are the most in favor of the state to sit on that, and I'm putting it nicely, all right. So let's play this next clip and let's watch Beth Andrews here as she listens to him lie within a 20 minute period. Go ahead and play that, jacob.
Speaker 7:Well, the entire case revolves around a couple of things. One of them is the church as a whole. We've received complaints from people about the church.
Speaker 1:Okay, hang on a second. Okay, anything you want to say, jacob, before I dive into this. No, go ahead. Look at his attitude. We've received complaints about the church. What is he? The pope of the city of Enumclaw? Yeah, pope of the city of enumclaw, yeah, and since when is a church being complained about? Grounds for any type of making that criminal?
Speaker 3:correct. Yeah, how does that translate over to something illegal it? Doesn't, and he's stating this before beth andrews, as if this were an important point correct, as if this is a valid reason why he did the things that he did Correct.
Speaker 1:Because it's a misconduct here. So that means what all the other churches in Washington State aren't receiving complaints.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 1:Well, let me refer to that for you. Probably not, because 99% of most people, if they called a police station and said I don't like the Jehovah's Witness, or I don't like the Mormons, or I don't like the Baptists, what is the average police station going to do? Not our problem sir.
Speaker 1:Not our problem. Grow up, go get a life, go away, don't bug us again, right, correct? Not our problem. Grow up, go get a life, go away, don't bug us again. Right, correct. But not in this case. Because the city of enumclaw and detective grant mccall was a magnet for liars so he was willing to receive all of these calls. I mean, when we made a complaint. Oh well, it's not happening, it's not our business, we're not going to deal with it. Yeah, they certainly pushed us off, correct? So then he's sitting before Beth Andrews here going. Yeah, I'm going to present my most valuable facts as to why this case of a man falsely accused of a sexual crime is guilty. I'm going to present to you the thing you need to pay attention to, judge Beth Andrews, and you know what it is. You know what it is, beth Andrews, do you know? Do you know? We have received complaints about the?
Speaker 3:church Dun dun dun.
Speaker 1:Oh, really Not. Well, what are the complaints? Who made the complaints? How were the complaints dealt with? None of that fact. It's just we received complaints and Beth Andrews is going okay. So you've received complaints. I get it. They're evil, they're bad. You're a cop. Therefore, you never lie, you never say anything wrong and we don't hold you to any accountability. So, okay, fine, You're free to sit here and use Washington State's court system to belittle a church because they receive complaints. Uh-huh, Start from the beginning and let's play it again.
Speaker 7:Well, the entire case revolves around a couple of things. One of them is the church as a whole. Okay, stop it right there.
Speaker 1:I covered the second part of the first part this whole case you correct me if I'm wrong, Jacob. This whole case, the false accusations toward malcolm fraser, the whole case about that accusation revolves around what?
Speaker 3:jacob, a couple things. There's a couple things here, okay what are those couple things?
Speaker 1:well, I Well.
Speaker 3:I don't know what, the second one, but one, one of them. So out of the two there's two, and one is we have received complaints Back up. Oh, the church as a whole, you're technically correct.
Speaker 1:You applied logic to the situation. I'm looking at his two and I could be wrong.
Speaker 3:One would be well, his words are two yeah, yeah, it's the whole church, but that's, that's not really that's a redundant point to the complaint.
Speaker 1:So really you only got one. I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3:This is nonsensical but in his words, yeah, the, the church as a whole.
Speaker 1:That was his words to To Beth Andrews, sitting right there. You can see her right there in the video. Yes, whatever she's doing there, taking notes, listening, like waiting for it to get over with. I can't guarantee you what's going on in her mind at this point. But the church as a whole, right, uh-huh. As we've made very, very clear, we have evidence of this was a hate crime instigated by a co-conspirator and grant mccall. They wanted this accusation to bring down the whole church. King county prosecutors had to know that all the evidence pointed to the crime could not have happened, but they were willing to use that to take down the church and that's been made clear all along. All right, so he's lying. Any comments before we finish this video? No, keep going then.
Speaker 7:Keep playing the church as a whole we've received complaints from people about the church. So the sound doctrine church really doesn't have anything to do with the investigation at all. It's just that some of the spiritual things involved to kind of muddy the waters a little bit have muddied the waters. But the sound doctrine church has got really nothing to do with these allegations at all.
Speaker 3:Nothing and he's done Nothing at all and it's nothing at all. And then it's quiet, there's like a pause as he looks because that's the Nothing at all, nothing at all. And then it's quiet, there's like a pause as he looks because that's the end of his statement. He's just done, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you notice he is an expert liar because if you watch in the beginning his face is not looking toward the judge. Yes, he's talking more to the courtroom, probably to the jury kind of thing, right?
Speaker 3:Well no, there's no jury there. This is a misconduct jury Okay, misconduct.
Speaker 4:So right now he's looking over at.
Speaker 3:Ann who's asking her questions. She's the one that gets to ask him questions and he's just talking to the entire court, whoever's there.
Speaker 1:Well, here's my and I'm going to rephrase it this way my valid point when he turns to lie, he turns and looks at her, looks at who he's looking at the judge.
Speaker 3:No, he's not right now he's looking to the side, keep playing.
Speaker 1:Does he not turn and look at her?
Speaker 3:No, well, it just ends. I don't know what's oh right there.
Speaker 1:Right there he's looking at her. Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, so what's your favorite?
Speaker 3:phrase. Jacob, I don't know what's my favorite phrase You're right, oh, you're right.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh well, yeah, okay, yes, you are correct.
Speaker 4:You are correct.
Speaker 3:Yes, he's looking right at the judge.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, making contact, making emphasis that this lie is true. Yeah, it's classic lying behavior. And again, feel free to correct me at any time. I cannot keep all this straight because I'm not an expert liar, I don't even try. All right, have we hammered in? Think about this. This is like full-blown on lie. Yes, first, this case has totally to do with the church. 20 minutes later, when that starts getting exposed by the defense attorney, he, he realizes hey, this is not looking good. So that what he does is he slings and says the complete opposite, correct, correct, the complete opposite. You have proof right here that he lies about everything and it all has to do with taking down the church. And it worked. I mean, I have to give him credit, it did work.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now. So what Beth Andrews does is she's really boxing a corner. Clearly, our cameras are in the room and it's clear he's done misconduct. I mean there was a lot of other things to this aspect but she whitewashes all the lies. She'll sit there and go. Well, I'm pretty confident that he was doing the best, that he thought and we won't get into that. We've covered that before. So this all gets whitewashed. But she knows he's lying. She knows he's lying. She knows he's flat out lying. You can see it on her face. Now I zoomed in and I took some stills of this. And let's just zoom in and look at her face. You tell me that's not a face that goes. What am I hearing here? Yes, now you correct me wrong, but that looks either one of two things she's got some illness or something.
Speaker 3:I know she doesn't have an illness.
Speaker 1:Okay, she's like I can't believe what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this guy is crazy yeah.
Speaker 1:Loony, but then she still whitewashes it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I think isn't there another couple Zooms? Keep going in there it.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I think isn't there another couple Zooms, keep going in there. It's just kind of maybe not. This is the big. Yeah, oh, this is very clear, it'll be big on the screen.
Speaker 1:It just goes downhill from there. I mean, if you're going to whitewash this kind of bad character of a cop, there's no way you're going to get a fair trial.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:You're not even going to get a fair trial. No, you're not even going to get.
Speaker 3:And when I say fair trial, that's a long way from an honest trial. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's yeah. An honest trial is impossible, impossible. You can't, it's impossible.
Speaker 1:They won't allow it, the very laws or the way they twist them and things they leave out. It's just not feasible. Just so happened in this particular trial. It got sharply into focus because we didn't bow down to all their corruption. All right, jacob, any other thoughts on that? I don't want to leave that too quick because people again I'm repeating, but I'm trying to slow down here Think about what you're hearing and seeing and what McCall is getting by with. If Beth Andrews and then later Judge Lori K Smith are letting this man with these kinds of lies and corruption we've just looked at a couple to falsely accuse somebody else and take down a whole church and drive them from the city of Enumclaw. People just need to wake up to just how much corruption is going on. It's unfathomable, it really is.
Speaker 1:It is Jacob. Let's play the next section and let's get rolling.
Speaker 2:The following Seattle-Keene County prosecutors violated every right and fundamental rule of law are Prosecutor Mark Larson. Prosecutor Lisa Johnson. Prosecutor Nicole Weston. Prosecutor Rich Anderson. Prosecutor Jason Simmons. The following Washington state judges foundationally destroyed rules of investigations and realities of logic are as follows Chief Judge Beth M Andrus. Chief Judge Lori K Smith. Isaiah 59.4 no one calls for justice, no one pleads his case with integrity. They rely on empty arguments and speak lies. They conceive trouble and give birth to evil. The Consider Podcast Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness wwwconsiderinfo. Considerinfo the Living God's Justice vs Corrupt Washington State Courts Another duh that is a dud with King County prosecutors of Seattle. Washington Prosecutors so corrupt they refuse to prosecute those who make false accusations. Proverbs 12, 17 A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies. Who will win the living God's justice versus corrupt Washington state courts? The Consider Podcast Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness wwwconsiderinfo.
Speaker 1:Thought we'd end this prosecutor's study Bible study time by looking at a trial in the New Testament. Jacob, you know much about Roman law um no, not really not me, really, really.
Speaker 1:But I have listened to some historical novels. One of them is by robert harris. Actually he's got three of them. They're pretty good. He goes off the end later on in some other books, but anyway, one of them's called imperium and it's a novel of ancient Rome by Robert Harris and it gives you an idea of all the corruptions and the interactions and the things that went on and it's quite. He does a good job of describing it.
Speaker 1:Now, my point here is that we're going to contrast here in just a second what Paul faced when he was in trial with Rome compared to what we went through. And I know it's two different time periods, but we're going to see that even with all the corruptions in Rome and all the legal things that changed and that's a broad period of time, of course Paul got a fairer trial than we did. Go ahead and play we're going to play the scripture now that we're going to talk about and then we're going to come back at it because it's a little bit long, so just sit back, relax, take in what the Word of God is saying and let it cleanse you and look over you. Then we're going to come back and compare that to what's going on today.
Speaker 4:Acts 26, 1 through 32. Then Agrippa said to Paul Acts 26.1-32. Then Agrippa said to Paul you have permission to speak for yourself. So Paul motioned with his hand and began his defense. King Agrippa, I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews, and especially so because you are well acquainted with all the Jewish customs and controversies. Therefore, I beg you to listen to me patiently. The Jews all know the way I have lived ever since I was a child, from the beginning of my life, in my own country and also in Jerusalem. They have known me for a long time and can testify, if they are willing, that according to the strictest sect of our religion, I lived as a Pharisee. And now it is because of my hope and what God has promised our fathers that I am on trial today. This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled, as they earnestly serve God day and night. Okay, it is because of this hope that the Jews are accusing me. Why should any of you consider it incredible that God raises the dead?
Speaker 4:I too was convinced that I ought to do all that was possible to oppose the name of Jesus of Nazareth. And that is just what I did in Jerusalem. On the authority of the chief priests, I put many of the saints in prison, and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. Many a time, I went from one synagogue to another to have them punished, and I tried to force them to blaspheme. In my obsession against them, I even went to foreign cities to persecute them. On one of those journeys, I was going to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. About noon, o King, as I was on the road, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. We all fell to the ground and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic Saul, saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads. Then I asked who are you, lord? I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. The Lord replied. Then I asked and from the Gentiles? I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me. So then, king Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven, first to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also. I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds. That is why the Jews seized me in the temple courts and tried to kill me, but I have had God's help to this very day, and so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen that the Christ would suffer and, as the first arise from the dead, would proclaim light to his own people and to the Gentiles.
Speaker 4:At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense. You are out of your mind, paul, he shouted. Your great learning is driving you insane. I am not insane, most excellent Festus. Paul replied what I am saying is true and reasonable. The king is familiar with these things and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice because it was not done in a corner. King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do. Then Agrippa said to Paul do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian. Paul replied another. They said this man is not doing anything that deserves death or imprisonment. Agrippa said to festus this man could have been set free if he had not appealed to caesar we don't have time to go through this completely.
Speaker 1:We may or may not come back to it in more detail once we start looking at justice. I don't know exactly for sure what god will have us do next, but all right, you kind of get the situation there right, jacob. Again, we may come back to this whole. There's a lot here we don't have time for. But let's look at Acts, chapter 26, verse 1. What do you notice right up front, jacob? Go ahead and read that verse 1, and what kind of jumps out at you, if anything?
Speaker 3:Then Agrippa said to Paul, you have permission to speak for yourself. So Paul motioned with his hand and began his defense. Anything just jump out at you, it seems. It does seem to be a very honest and open courtroom.
Speaker 1:You got it. He's able to represent himself in this court of law and get his points across. Can you imagine if malcolm fraser would have said well, your honor, I'm just going to represent myself. I mean, the prosecution would have wet their diapers and judge laurie k smith would have been thrilled, right, because then they just trap you and can walk all over you and nothing going. But. But this is at least reasonable enough that agrippa says yeah, you know, go ahead and speak for yourself. Let's get going on this thing, right. Yeah, pretty amazing really, if you think about it, especially in terms of roman law.
Speaker 1:All right, verse two says king agrippa, I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews. Sound familiar, jacob? All these accusations are floating out there about sound doctrine, church and who I am In fact, detective McCall. What did he receive, jacob? Complaints, complaints, which makes you guilty. Obviously, if you complain, I consider myself fortunate. Did you were going to say something? No, go ahead. I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews. Now, why does he consider himself to be fortunate?
Speaker 1:Let's go to verse 3. And especially so because here's his fact. He's not just saying it in terms of flattery or just you're trying to. You know, go up to the judge. Oh, judge, you're so smart, you're honorable, let's all stand up and, you know, do our thing. Verse 3. And especially so because you are well acquainted with all the Jewish customs and controversies. King County prosecutors kept themselves ignorant on purpose and they still have done that to this day. They will not look and examine at all the things and the corruption that went on, but he's at least before King Agrippa and King Agrippa, he knows, is well acquainted with what's all going on. So he knows there's this whole sea of accusations and wild stuff and lies going on there.
Speaker 1:Right of accusations and wild stuff and lies going on there, right, and Paul all goes on to say therefore, I beg you to listen to me patiently, we could have begged. Well, we did beg. Did we get any mercy, jacob? No Time. Letters, phone calls, conversations, emails everything that's even been done after trial is literally a begging to listen to me patiently.
Speaker 1:See lies and slander and false accusations. They're fast and furious. You can just go at those bang, bang, bang right, because you don't have to prove anything but the truth. For instance, you can go walking in the light means. You tell everybody everything all day long and everything that you did, right, mm-hmm. Okay, in order to explain that, we've had to do several podcasts. It would take time. So the lies come easy. And then, of course, I repeat it over and over again but no prosecutors in the state of Oregon didn't prosecute liars. They bring them in, they invite them. Every false accusation you have yet to see one woman who made a false accusation brought to trial and serving prison time. You're correct. So what are you going to get? You're going to get a bunch of liars. So king county prosecutors were not interested in the truth. They were only interested in one side of the story and how they could exaggerate that, and we'll get more into that as we go on to other issues. Therefore, I beg you to listen to me patiently. So he goes on to make his defense, do it down to verse five, says they have known me for a long time and can testify if they are willing. That sounds like today's courtroom, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean it literally does like yeah, if they're willing to come in and testify for me. I've got plenty of people that would have declared the truth and that would have happened right up front.
Speaker 1:Now, the longer it went on and King County prosecutors brought in the oppressive nature of, and the unconstitutional and illegal nature of Washington State's application of I can't even call it the law because it's not the law, it's lawless laws. People became less and less willing to testify, correct? I mean, remember Simmons is intimidating everybody that just showed up. It's lawless laws. People became less and less willing to testify, correct? I mean, remember Simmons is intimidating everybody that just shows up in the courtroom to sit down. Do you recognize any church members? Can you point them out? Do their name? Your name was mentioned time and time again. That's nothing but intimidation. They'd have had a fair chance to testify in King Agrippa than we did in King County Court. So eventually, in Jason Simmons' one, he wore everybody down. He was oppressive.
Speaker 1:He made it within people's self-interest to either remain silent or to lie. It's the very nature of what we call injustice and lies, if they are willing that. According to the strictest sect of our religion, I lived as a Pharisee. Verse 6 says, and now it is because of my hope in what God has promised our fathers that I'm on trial today. He brings down the real point. You've got all these other accusations and it would have been causing riots in Rome and not worshiping the Caesar. You can imagine all the different accusations and it would have been, you know, causing riots in Rome and not worshiping the Caesar, and all you know. You can imagine all the different accusations, right, but what it really boiled down to, if you looked at the facts and Paul knows, king Agrippa knows this is the situation what it comes down to is that Paul has the hope that God will deliver his people, rescue them from their sin and so on, and they didn't like hearing that message and we'll get more into that and that's exactly how it applies to us also with Sound Doctor Church. We'll get to that in a moment, any comments or anything like that?
Speaker 1:No, he goes on to say in verse 7, this is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled, as they earnestly serve God day and night. Us, our 12 tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they earnestly serve God day and night. There isn't anything that I haven't preached or taught. That's reasonable and also within the New Testament and the Old Testament, just very biblical. It's how Paul is saying, o king, it is because of this hope that the Jews are accusing me. In other words, there's a central reason why the accusations are happening. Verse 8, why should any of you consider it incredible that God raises from the dead? Verse 8, why should any of you consider it incredible that God raised us from the dead? I too, was convinced that I ought to do all that was possible to impose the name of Jesus Christ. In other words, he was a detective McCall, and that is just what I did in Jerusalem. So he's a man of action.
Speaker 1:On the authority of the chief priests, I put many of the saints in prison and when they were put to death, I cast my vote for them. So you kind of get the point is Paul is a policeman, he's a part of the group, and then he eventually turns from the group. Well, how do you think they're going to like that?
Speaker 3:They're not going to like that.
Speaker 1:No. So not only are they motivated, they were already motivated to do away with Christians, to either cause them to blaspheme or to fall away or whatever, correct. But now one of their own has actually come to Jesus Christ, they're going to be twice as motivated, and probably three or four times as motivated, to shut him up and destroy him. Correct, correct, and we don't have time to look at all that today. Acts 26, verse 11, many a time I went from one synagogue to another to have them punished and I tried to force them to blaspheme. In my obsession against them, I even went to force them to blaspheme and my obsession against them, I even went to a foreign city to prosecute them.
Speaker 1:This stuff really does become an obsession by people that just nurse hatred and lies and twisted facts. Um well, I can't think of any better word. It really is an obsession. They just have to destroy and there's no way around it. Any comments on that, jacob? No, all right. Then he goes on to talk about how god comes to him and open his eyes to the truth, and so we're going to kind of skip that at the moment. Let's go down to verse 18, 17, 18. God is telling paul I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. Now God promised to rescue Paul, correct Jacob?
Speaker 3:How would an evil prosecutor. Jason Simmons view that statement. Well, I guess would they mock Paul Paul, just like they mocked Jesus.
Speaker 1:They would. Can you think of the way they would mock him?
Speaker 3:Well, if God is saying I'm going to rescue you from your own people, but he's currently stuck in a courtroom, it doesn't look like he's currently being rescued.
Speaker 1:Amen, you're 100% on target. So it depends on your perspective and what you're looking at. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. Be careful when you mock somebody that's down, or supposedly down, in Jesus Christ. All right, I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.
Speaker 1:Now, this particular statement does it reflect anything about just ask Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior in your life? No, is there anything in here about this? Just admit that you're a sinner and we're all sinners and we've all got things we need to change, and God sees and he loves you as you are, um, and he wants you to change, be blessed. And then, once you're saved, you're like uh prosecutor. You're like uh city even called detective grant mccall that no matter what you do, you get to go to heaven. No, no, listen to what it's saying. And since we're still kind of talking to prosecutor, prosecutor simmons and judge laurie k smith and beth andrews and so on, notice what it says to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light.
Speaker 1:All of this is about opening their eyes to see what they're doing. When you walk in the dark, you don't know that, what you did. They believe that like, oh yeah, you know, church should come into town and pass out flyers, and that's right, getting marriage is all strengthened, that's evil somewhere. So, anyway, there's a real darkness there. Only God can open their eyes and that's only going to happen if they humble themselves. And from the power of Satan to God, that's what Paul says and from the power of Satan to God.
Speaker 1:So in order to come to Paul's message, you have to first admit what? That you're blind, right. And so let me just tell myself there's nothing about. Just ask Jesus in your heart and you're saved. Right, correct? You have to admit I am blind and you know what. This can't be words you mock by yes, lord, I am blind, I can't see. You know, if you start to, when paul was confronted by jesus christ in the road, I believe he fell to the ground and he had to be led by the hand in the city and we don't have time to look at. But this is a powerful encounter with the living god. This is not looking at the back of a little track and checking off a box or, worse yet, open up some of the bibles they have. The way to be saved is just pretty much just read the bible as jesus in your heart and tithe yeah, in fact, there's nothing about, excuse me, tithing in this.
Speaker 1:Turn them from darkness to light and from the power of satan. So you have to admit I'm being controlled by satan. Prosecutor simmons would have to admit, yeah, I've been controlled by saying judge laurie k smith, beth andrews. These people would have to admit, yeah, I've been controlled by Satan. Judge Laurie K Smith, beth Andrews. These people would have to come to the truth about what is happening spiritually. And that's just to name three people.
Speaker 1:Now, the purpose and the goal of this is not the hell and brimstone, because that's how everybody's looking at this who doesn't want to come to God? Oh, he's being oppressive and he's coming in hard. No, the reason for this in verse 18 of Acts 26 is so they may receive forgiveness of sins. So now, dr Church was all about forgiveness of sin in the context of a faith that comes, or righteousness that comes by faith let's read on and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me Picking up your cross, following Jesus Christ. Lame deal with sin. Anything on this? Jacob? No, acts, chapter 26, verse 19.
Speaker 1:Now Paul's doing something a little bit subtle. Here he goes. So then, king Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. You see what he's telling King Agrippa there, jacob, he's saying he's coming along, all of these things happen to me and god, deliver me from satan. You can have all of these things happen and then not be obedient, correct? Yes, so this is a faith that comes from obedience. You can have all of these things presented to you. Prosecutor jason simmons could go okay, logically, all this fits and all of that's there. He has a choice. He can be disobedient to it and say, okay, I'm going to ignore this, I'm not going to do it, I don't want it, or he can surrender to it.
Speaker 1:And what Paul is saying is this comes down to obedience, king, and there's a lot of people that a lot may be a strong word. There are many people who will acknowledge that this is just the old time, god, there's nothing that I'm preaching that is new or just popped on the scene. You can get a lot of old books that are more powerful technically and more cutting technically than what I wrote. It's just we live in a time period when the love of Moses is going cold. So any suggestion that you should you know, obviously be a male or a female, or actually be obedient or love your children, in terms of dissuading them and doing good things to them. You know all of that. Just everybody goes ballistic. So we're just in that. Very so my books even the titles, drive people away. All right, I was not disobedient. He's subtly trying to hint or get to King Agrippa like, yeah, you got to be obedient to these things, right, correct.
Speaker 1:Now verse 20 says first to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and all Judea, and to the Gentiles also I preach that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds. The real reason Sound Doctrine Church or Timothy Williams, to bring it into focus for some folks was put on trial in King County courts through a proxy prosecution of Malcolm Frazier by a crime that was impossible to commit and that was all about the church. But wasn't all about the church and was because they'd received complaints and because we just showed up into town. And let's go on and on and on is Acts, chapter 26, verse 20. Had I not preached this and had I not lived this, none of the other would have happened. Correct, jacob? Correct. Let me read that to you again. First to those in Damascus you can go back and look at when I first started preaching, and it's out there, long-winded stuff. I don't really recommend it, but it's the same message. It's the same message, first to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also. It's one message. Nothing's changed. I preach that they should repent and turn to God. See, it's only about God. You've got to repent first, get your face toward God and then prove your repentance by your deeds.
Speaker 1:I probably dare say that the number one reason for the complaints and for all the other slanders is because of the word prove. You have to prove that you're a Christian. You have to prove. Why, do you think? Prosecutor Jason Simmons deprived Sound Doctrine Church of the right of association? You had to have their friends. You had to have their people. You had to prove that you associated with all these other people. Why people? You had to prove that you associated with all these other people. Why? To prove their repentance by their deeds. He wanted to bring us into other people who sin, to compromise, to destroy the faith. It was that simple. You had to prove their repentance by their deeds. Does that make sense, jacob? Yeah, verse 21,.
Speaker 1:He goes on to say that is why the jews seized me in the temple courts and tried to kill me. In other words, it's not all of these other controversies, it's not. Did he say this? It's not. Did he act like this or, you know, did he get upset over here? Was he bossy over here? It isn't all of this chatter and false accusations going on. It has to do with this one central thing, and that is they should repent and turn to God and improve their repentance by their deeds. Verse 22,. Why don't you read that, jacob?
Speaker 3:But I have had God's help to this very day, and so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen.
Speaker 1:All I can really say is amen. That's what's going on today. All right, read verse 24, jacob of Acts, chapter 26.
Speaker 3:At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense. You are out of your mind, paul, he shouted. Your great learning is driving you insane.
Speaker 1:That's quite the little psychoanalysis, isn't it Jacob?
Speaker 3:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:We didn't get to hear the rest of Paul's defense.
Speaker 3:What else was he going to say? I'm sorry. What did you say? We don't get to find out the rest of Paul's defense. What else was he going to say? I'm sorry. What did you say? We don't get to find out the rest of Paul's defense because he got interrupted.
Speaker 1:Well, I think part of that is Festus knows at this point that Paul's got a lot to say and doesn't want to hear it Correct. Yeah, because he got to the point of you've got to prove your repentance by your deeds, right? Well then the next logical question would be well, how do you prove that and how does it come out? In fact, what does a rebuke look like?
Speaker 1:You know, those nasty little rebukes what does that look like? Or walking in the light and all those kind of things that they ask the questions but they're not going to let us answer. It's kind of the same tactic here. You're just cutting them off so that you can't provide a defense in any way or explain. He doesn't want to hear it because he knows if it's true he's got to repent. Not to mention, of course, what paul said earlier, that they're controlled by satan. So what do you not think satan wants to stop paul at the point where it really got down to obedience? Yes, of course he does.
Speaker 1:All the other chatter up above and I don't mean that negatively but all the other decisions laying a foundation, like you literally could go okay, you could agree to all that, but there's no specifics. So you're out of your mind, paul. He shouted Finally, it just fesses, it just comes boiling out. Your great learning is driving you insane. That's quite, uh, quite the accusation, isn't it? Yes, it is all right. So paul responds in the way that a godly man does. I'm not insane. Most excellent festus. Paul replied what I'm saying is true and reasonable. That again, the amazing thing is everything that was a sound doctrine was not only true but it was also reasonable. They just twisted it to make it look like something and then, when you started to explain why it was reasonable, of course you were not allowed to explain Acts, chapter 26, verse 26,.
Speaker 1:The king is familiar with these things and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice because it was not done in the corner. Now here's where we start deviating. Because the king was familiar. What was going on? King county prosecutors and detective grant mccall did not want to know the truth, so they didn't look and they they closed out anything that actually would have been of reality and to be true. So you start seeing a deviation at this point. In other words, king County prosecutors, judge Lori K Smith, beth Andrews, keep themselves as ignorant as possible. They keep themselves in the dark as much as possible, because then you can just rule and do whatever you want's very clear. We'll look at it later. But if you have actual evidence of crimes going on, but it's done by covering officials, then there is no crime. But if you have no evidence of a crime, with people that are just the humble in the land, then we'll prosecute that. Because if you don't have any facts, you can just make up anything you want. Yeah, and that's a little bit of a taste of what's coming.
Speaker 1:All right, king agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do. Then agrippa said to paul do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a christian? It's kind of sinking in, isn't it? To king agrippa. He knows where this is headed. He's I think he's figured out what Paul's up to. In other words, if you've got a man sitting here saying, you know, to this day God has helped me, and he's preaching the gospel in this courtroom to these people, don't you think he's at least smart enough to come to the conclusion hey, I'm being preached at. If this is Paul's attitude of victory, if this is what it means to have God protect you all the way and you're in chains and you're going to Rome for trial, then I think he's picking up on the fact. Hey, this is a lot more than about Paul's comfort.
Speaker 1:Paul replied short time or long, I pray God and again, only God. This is not a Christian religion, prosecutor Simmons, this is not Sound Doctrine, church's books. This isn't just you know listening to my sermons. This is not a Christian religion, prosecutor Simmons. This is not Sound Doctrine, church's books. This isn't just you know listening to my sermons. This isn't your. You know propaganda that you do in public school. You know the public school propaganda that you guys are doing upon people and forcing them all to accept. This is about seeking the living God. I pray God that not only you, but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains. He's trying to drop a hint there. Of course, like you know, free me. There's no reason why I'm in these chains, correct? All right, then we see normal courtroom behavior, don't we? Verse 30. Go ahead and read that, jacob.
Speaker 3:The king rose and with him the governor, and Bernice and those sitting with him Go ahead in verse 31. They left the room and, while talking with one another, they said this man is not doing anything that deserves death or imprisonment. You'll notice how they leave the courtroom like come to the bench.
Speaker 1:You'll notice how they leave the courtroom, like come to the bench or stop you. So a lot of things just have not changed, have they? And what is impressive here, jacob, is there something that jumps out to you that like, hey, this is just kind?
Speaker 3:of out of the norm here. Well, they are honest that he doesn't deserve death or imprisonment. They recognize this.
Speaker 1:Correct. Did you see anything in King County prosecutors, where they come together and go? You know what this trial is like? A joke and we don't have any evidence. We know the jury found them guilty, but there's really nothing here. If we separate the attacks on the church and the slander over here and if we just get down to the facts of the actual accusatory aspects of the crime, there's nothing here that proves the crime took place.
Speaker 3:No, they most definitely did not do that.
Speaker 1:No, they held to their lie all the way to the end. In fact we've looked before they brought in a lying accusation at the very end. But they all come to an agreement that this man didn't do anything deserving death or imprisonment. Paul got a more honest trial in corrupt Rome than we got in King County prosecutor's office. I mean that's staggering to think about and all the things and all the corruption that was in Roman times and during that going. In fact there's another trial where Paul was and it says he was hoping the judge was hoping he'd get a bribe. So you know the corruption is there.
Speaker 1:But you've got three people all listening and the one saying he's out of his mind and then they come to the conclusion like, yeah, well, he may be out of his mind, or he may not be out of his mind, doesn't? He has not done anything to deserve death or imprisonment. They were able to do away with all the chatter, all the lies, all the fact he's at fact, they all lying accusations and come to a correct decision right, correct, pretty amazing. I mean I wish we had time just to go. Hey, let's just stop here for just a moment. You got you got three guys in the world, all controlled by satan infant, and they come to a proper decision and king, county courts can't even get there. Kind of amazing, really.
Speaker 1:All right, verse 32, grippet said to festus this man could have been set free if he had not appealed to caesar. So not only did they come to the correct decision, they're also very lawful, like well, we could have set him free, but he appealed to Caesar. And, by the way, if you're a Roman citizen, just like if you were an American citizen, that used to mean something. It actually doesn't mean anything anymore, but you would claim I'm a Roman citizen, I appeal to Caesar, and that was a right and a privilege. It was very much an honor to be a Roman citizen. Many people had to pay a huge amount of money to be Roman citizens and you could earn it that way or you could be born into it, and Paul happened to be born into it. So he was kind of a Roman citizen of Roman citizens and had all kinds of rights.
Speaker 1:But the impressive thing here is that Agrippa and them and they're talking and whatever, festus and all, then they're saying, yeah, you know what, if he hadn't appealed to caesar, we could let him go. At least they stuck to the law. Now I, you know, I kind of have questions like could they let him go if they just put their job in line? Don't know about that, but let's just go with a moment that again I'm repeating myself Did they not stick to the spirit of the law and the letter of the law, jacob?
Speaker 3:Yes, they definitely stuck to it, no matter what. They still outpolled, whatever the law said, that's what they followed.
Speaker 1:Not Judge Lori K Smith, no, not Prosecutor Jason Simmons. No, not bailiffs, not anybody. Not anybody in the court system. Even objected Judge Lori K Smith. Prosecutor Simmons said guess what? We're attacking the religion, we're attacking the church. We're attacking the church, we're attacking the very fundamentals of what they believe and what's a rebuke and what's hating for Jesus mean All these religious questions? Because the church as a whole. That's what the trial is about, right, jacob?
Speaker 3:Yeah. The church as a whole yeah, but not as a whole. But not as a whole yeah the church as a whole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but not as a whole. But not as a whole, that's right. So you know the religious aspect. You know, just kind of muddied the waters. Prosecutors, judge Sidney V McLeod, detective Grant McCall I at least got the phrase down. All of this applies, right? Yes, so what does Judge Lori K k smith and prosecutor simmons void? Well, in order to ensure an absolute slam dunk railroad, let's just hang him and just make it claim that you know, the jury found them guilty. What are we going to remove, jacob?
Speaker 1:um well, they removed a lot of things, but certainly any honest truth they took away the freedom of religion in the Washington State Constitution and, of course, by aspect, they took it away from the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Right of Association. But let's play the clip and let's listen to Prosecutor Jason Simmons, andurie k smith, in one swift move, no explanation given, no reason given, just other than it doesn't apply. Watch them say the jury knowing about the washington state constitution's freedom of religion, the jury does not need to know, it does not apply. Which is bigger than saying the jury doesn't need to know, it's saying it does not apply. I know you're brought into this courtroom, I know your church is on trial. Detective Grant McCall has said it's all about the church. But guess what? We're going to take out the part that would say you have a right to practice your religion and that won't even be considered. And you've got to realize, if that's the attitude of judge laurie k smith and prosecutors before the trial ever began, you can be sure this was nothing more than a lynch mob, correct, correct, before facts were ever heard, before anything was ever done. They just pull it out, go ahead and play and let's watch it ourselves. And again, these are just pivotal moments that people need to pay attention to. I mean, it would have been one thing if they just sent us a letter and say Dear Mr Williams, this is King County Prosecutor's Office and we're aware that you're practicing freedom of religion. We just want to give you a warning that you cannot practice all the things that you do, and here's kind of a list Walk in the light, don't do that, don't rebuke, don't do all these things. We've also picked up on these things. We've had several complaints. So just know that you are in violation or you have no right to claim the Washington State section on freedom of religion.
Speaker 1:How are we supposed to know, jacob, that the things that we were doing would not be applied to the Washington State Constitution? Where's the law that would have said you can walk into a courtroom, they can just pull that away and, lo and behold, you committed all these things because it didn't apply. But there was no law that said it didn't apply, correct. So how are we supposed to know or let's put it in their bad attitude how is Timothy Williams supposed to know, that the freedom of religion in the Washington State Constitution did not apply as he sought to love other people and perfect them in Jesus Christ. How was I supposed to know that? And where is that written in some code? Somewhere that she can just come along and prosecutor Simmons can just throw it out the window and it becomes an absolutely meaningless thing based on no facts whatsoever. This was a travesty of corruption and I hope to get into it more and more as we go into other aspects of why and where this is coming from. But let's listen to it before I rant too much more.
Speaker 6:And then the last issue of whether or not the court should read the Washington State Constitution. The Washington State Constitution is not a relevant inquiry to this case, and as for reading article 1, section 22 of the constitution, it's not appropriate.
Speaker 3:It's not appropriate.
Speaker 1:It's not appropriate not appropriate, not appropriate. What can you say, jacob? Yep, there's no way anybody's getting a fair try with that attitude. No, it's not like. They listed all the reasons why it's not appropriate. There was no ruling on you know, you get a 30-page statement as to why you're voiding that. We just void it. Page statement as to why you're voiding that. That. We just void it. Anything you want to add, jacob, because this is going to bring to conclusion prosecutor bible study time? Of course, now I do reserve the right, obviously, for god to come along and say no, you got to pick it up again. So we'll see what happens. But for now, as far as I'm, as far as I know, in the Lord, this is the end of the prosecutor Bible study time. Anything you want to say, I know Well, go ahead and play the ending prayer and this is we won't. We didn't go into the scriptures, but this is the whole section of what we prayed in the previous podcast, along with scriptures.
Speaker 4:That kind of give some people things they need to meditate on and think on along with scriptures that kind of give some people things they need to meditate on and think on. Oh Lord, consider King County. The Lord's curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous. He mocks proud mockers but gives grace to the humble. The wise inherit honor but fools he holds up to shame. Proverbs 3.33-35. Think of the fact that disciples of Jesus have divine power as they pick up their cross and do God's will. Let us read from 2 Corinthians 10. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 2 Corinthians 10.4. Power in legal courts. Washington state courts, prosecutors, police to say nothing of the liars such conspired to use have behaved with the utmost arrogance toward you. Let us read from Acts, chapter 13.
Speaker 4:Paul traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish. Let us read from Acts, chapter 13. Word of God. But Elymas the sorcerer for that is what his name means opposed them and tried to turn the procouncil from the faith. Then Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said you are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything. That is right. You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? Deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord. Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind and for a time you will be unable to see the light of the sun. Immediately, mist and darkness came over him and he groped about seeking someone to lead him by the hand. When the pro-council saw what had happened, he believed, for he was amazed at the teaching about the Lord Acts 13.6-12.
Speaker 4:Now let us pray concerning King County Courts. Lord, we pray in your truth of Proverbs 18. When wickedness comes, so does contempt comes, so does contempt, and with shame comes disgrace. Proverbs 18.3. Lord, we humbly ask you to curse the wickedness of those who, with vile contempt, trampled upon truth and legal laws while propping up liars and corrupt police. Bring shame and disgrace into each of their lives. Let a curse hang over their lives so that they may choose, of their own free will, life or death. Let a curse hang over their lives so that they may choose of their own free will, life or death, but let them know what it is to have you who confronts sin, pursuing them, lord, consider the utter contempt King County Courts of Washington State have treated you. Consider, because they hate your truth and love, still cling to darkness and their twisted ways instead of your light and purity. Consider they have prosecuted and judged with their lies, like the evil one, the great prosecutor of your people. Consider and teach those involved and you know who they are that you are the living God who cannot be mocked. Remove the veil of their deceptions and demonstrate to them that you cannot be mocked, as it is written in Galatians 6-7, do not be deceived, god cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Consider, o Lord, they stubbornly refuse to this day to make right their wrongs. Lord, we know your justice is coming soon, but if it be, your will place a curse upon those who have stubbornly refused to repent, your curse that is full of wisdom and love. According to their choice, may that curse become a blessing or their chosen damnation. We wait for you, o Lord, and a curse be on anyone who does not love you. Lord. 1 Corinthians 16.22. If anyone does not love the Lord, a curse be on him. Come, o Lord. Amen Concludes the prayer.
Speaker 4:Now let us read from Daniel, chapter 4, about a leader God made mad. You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals. You will eat grass like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes. The command to leave the stump of the tree with its roots means that your kingdom will be restored to you when you acknowledge that heaven rules. Therefore, o king, be pleased to accept my advice. Renounce your sins by doing what is right and your wickedness by being kind to the oppressed. It may be that then your prosperity will continue.
Speaker 4:All this happened to King Nebuchadnezzar Twelve months later. As the king was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon, he said Is not this the great Babylon I have built as the royal residence by my mighty power and for the glory of my majesty? The words were still on his lips when a voice came from heaven. This is what is decreed for you, king Nebuchadnezzar. Your royal authority has been taken from you. You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals. You will eat grass like cattle. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes. Immediately, what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled he was driven away from people and ate grass like cattle. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird. Daniel 4.25-33.
Speaker 4:Finally, a warning against stubbornness from Romans 2. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of His kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance? But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when His righteous judgment will be revealed. God will give to each person according to what he has done. Romans 2, 3-6. The Consider Podcast Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness wwwconsiderinfo.
Speaker 2:The following Seattle-Keene County prosecutors violated every right and fundamental rule of law are Prosecutor Mark Larson. Prosecutor Lisa Johnson. Prosecutor Nicole Weston. Prosecutor Rich Anderson. Prosecutor Jason Simmons. The following Washington state judges foundationally destroyed rules of investigations and realities of logic are as follows Chief Judge Beth M Andrus. Chief Judge Lori K Smith. Isaiah 59-4. No one calls for justice. No one pleads his case with integrity. They rely on empty arguments and speak lies. They conceive trouble and give birth to evil. The Consider Podcast Examining today's wisdom folly and madness. Wwwconsiderinfo.