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#89 July 10th 2025 Prosecutors Cross the Line
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Nazis and a Sample Legal Brief
Gay Sidewalks
City of Enumclaw Police desires to purchase license plate readers.
Governor Bob Ferguson lusts to listen in on the confession booth.
This and more on podcast number 89 in the year of our Lord 2025.
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It is time to consider Nazis and to sample legal brief Gay sidewalks. City of Enumclaw police desires to purchase license plate readers. Governor Bob Ferguson lusts to listen in on the confession booth. This and more on podcast number 89 in the year of our Lord, 2025.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Consider podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly and madness. More information can be found at wwwconsiderinfo. Now here are your hosts, timothy and Jacob.
Speaker 3:How's it going, Jacob? It's going good. Yep, definitely into summertime. Hey got a question for you, always got a question. We got to pick on you a little bit. Always got a question. We got to pick on you a little bit. What do you think all the prosecutors and the judges and the minions that enforce their corruption have learned from all of this stuff in the Malcolm first? What do you think the lesson is that they've learned?
Speaker 4:The lesson that they've learned is to ignore it in hopes that it goes away.
Speaker 3:That would be lesson number one, and of course, by now that we're not the usual typical just go away. So they haven't learned that lesson, correct. But in fact I may have to quit because I get too old and have too many birthdays, but one day in eternity it will never come to an end. In the meantime, what's in the meantime? What's the second lesson that they learned second lesson that they've learned oh, they've learned this one.
Speaker 4:They've learned well I'm, uh, I guess they they've learned that they have to be more crafty in their evilness amen and you put that together.
Speaker 3:I was to say they know how to go deeper into the darkness. Yes, yeah, they've gotten quieter. They hide more. What do you think the odds are of cameras being allowed in the courtroom? Probably done. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:It was slim to begin with, correct, clearly, which is by God's miracle grace of blinding them. They let us in there because we've got all this recorded. You know, praise a strong word, but it would be nice to see a legal college that has a real emphasis on defending the Constitution and people's rights. We have so much information. This could be a lesson in a course itself. On multiple levels. It's a perfect example of corruption. Now, I'm not telling you there aren't worse corruptions, I'm just meaning it's a perfect example from beginning to end, before it ever went to trial, and what the police were doing. I mean, we have tons of evidence all the way up till now on how the courts just continue and everybody in authority. They're all kind of looking, but not looking at this because it's kind of out there, but they don't do anything about it. They just go back into the darkness. They add one more scheme, one more rule. You're not going to be able to call and do the things that we did, because the lesson they learned was oh, that was an open door to actually have to interact with people and come to account. You know, is that making sense there? Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:I was thinking of Isaiah, chapter 28, verse 14, about this as I was thinking about it. Okay, well, clearly they haven't learned much. But Isaiah goes to the people and he says therefore, hear the word of the Lord, you scoffers who rule this people in Jerusalem. This is what Isaiah said to the scoffers. So then the word of the Lord will become to them. It's verse 13. Do and do and do and do, rule on rule, rule on rule, a little here, a little there, so that they will go and fall backward, be injured, snared and captured.
Speaker 3:See, what they've done is they'll layer on more laws, right, more do and do, more rule on rule. And it's all to hide, to bury, to mask or just to flat out lie about a situation. They're going backwards. So the real lesson that all of I would imagine this reverberates all the way through Washington state. I mean, you have the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys recommending one little sliver of injustice in the Malcolm Frazier trial that they can just hold on and use, while ignoring the complete corruption and lie of Judge Lori K Smith and all of these people. So they're falling backwards, they just go more and more into darkness.
Speaker 3:Any comments on that? No other than it's true they haven't certainly fallen forward to talk about the Constitution or to deal with this situation would be so easy to deal with, but I don't want to get too sidetracked. So things are bad, right, jacob? Correct? I mean, it's pretty obvious that the legal system is broken. Yes, and I say broken in terms of we think of zero, but it's really past zero. Yeah, it's into the complete sliding downward into where we know this thing is headed.
Speaker 3:I mean, you have Washington state luring children away from the parents, which they've been doing for decades, but now with the intention of perverting them sexually and using them for their own self-righteous gratification, as the children mutilate their genitals, where they're in a place where their mind isn't even fully developed and they're supposed to be allowed to make all of the decisions. Right, correct, all right. So that's like today, that's like now. So we run this, let's run the clock out five more years or worse, let's go at 10. We're not even going to discuss where it would be at, because it would just be vile to even talk about it. Yeah, all right, so I need you to go back in time with me. We're going to look at this as an example. Suppose you were a prosecutor in Germany in 1933, the year 1933 in Germany.
Speaker 4:So let's just imagine you were a prosecutor, so you're closing your eyes, you're wrapping that around, you're getting in your head so the war hasn't started. If I'm in 1933, right, yeah.
Speaker 3:Did you go to public?
Speaker 4:school at all.
Speaker 3:Sure did yeah, yeah, okay, that's the part that's coming out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just confirming as we go back in time where I am. I'm giving you a hard time.
Speaker 3:I would have had to look it up too, but I was in the last when public school was barely doing anything. Yes it is before. Okay, before the war.
Speaker 3:The actual fires and the shots and all that stuff. 1933 is very early on. Yes, okay, all right, so you're a prosecutor, the laws are basically decent, the Nazis have not risen to power, the influence is pretty standard, like, okay, this is just the normal injustice or the legal system that was going on. So it's before the war. Yeah, well, between 1933 and 1939, you began to see the effect of the Nazis moving into the legal system.
Speaker 3:Most people don't realize that technically, the gassing of the Jews was all legal. I mean, that was the defense they used at the Nuremberg trials. Well, I was just following the law. So every prosecutor in Washington state and I'm just kind of limiting to Washington state there's a question for you. At what point do you decide, and have to decide, that I have to rebuke the system, that I have to expose it, that I can no longer be a part of it? In other words, like 1933, they pass the initial discriminatory laws, and I'm reading it here a little bit. They passed the initial discriminatory laws, and I'm reading it here a little bit the Nazi regime, upon assuming power in January of 1933, quickly enacted laws to exclude Jews from public and professional life, aligning with their anti-Semitic ideology outlined in the 1920 Nazi Party program. That all make sense program.
Speaker 4:That all makes sense. Um, yeah, except I, I actually didn't know. 1920 nazi party program was already so anti-jew so I didn't think of it as a political party. Oh, okay. Oh, the nazi party, okay, but still, even that means yes. In the 1920s, when they first started thinking up this stuff, I didn't realize that anti-semitism went back to 1920.
Speaker 3:Yes, and Hitler had that formulated. It was in his books Mein Kampf and all these. So people knew it was there. Yeah, so when you look at Governor Bob Ferguson, and he attacks a grandmother because she won't arrange flowers for a gay wedding and he purposely set out to do that, and, of course, flowers for a gay wedding, and he purposely set out to do that. And of course this is the same time that King County prosecutors decided they didn't like Christianity and came in and began to make it look vile and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:What I'm getting at is but does any of this surprise us? Because the Democratic Party has decided to defile everything moral and everything good. Right, yes, remember, governor Ferguson wants to institute the Misinformation Bureau. So they've already told us that it's happening, that it's going to take place. Eventually it's going to stop, just like the Nazi Party. It's going to just kind of explode on the scene here a little bit. Right now they're a little bit pushback by by trump, but that's not going to last. There's, in fact, that's just going to make this whole impure agenda explode. Explode when they get back and they won't give it up at that point.
Speaker 4:It's like a soda and you shake it up like you know it's going to explode it just hasn't done it yet. And then if trump's gone and the cap is off, it's going to go. It just hasn't done it yet. And then if Trump's gone and the cap is off, it's going to go boom.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, let me mention first too, the Republicans are no better because they're in this la-la land, especially in Washington State, like, oh well, someday we're going to win. I'm going no, you're not. There's nothing unique about what you're doing. There's no pushback as far doing there's no pushback. There's, as far as I know, there's no hearings about all of this corruption that we've put out there. There's really no pushback on any level. It's all like well, we hope someday we get back in power we can yeah, yeah, well that's my impression.
Speaker 4:We'll hope once there, I feel like the republican party agenda in washington state is well, we just hope it gets so bad that people like wake up, or you know what. What I mean? Like you're just you, you, the, they think the Republican people think it will get better because people will vote against it Exactly, and it's just like you might as well begin your party's platform with once upon a time in Washington state Once upon a time.
Speaker 3:It's just a fairy tale yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:It's just.
Speaker 3:Which is just like the.
Speaker 4:Nazis. I mean, like good luck, you're not going to stop the Nazi wave, we can look back and see that it was practically unstoppable.
Speaker 3:It was unstoppable and people would do the same excuses they're doing today, like you could go to the average person if it was a Democrat or maybe even Republican I don't know the average person they would say, well, it'll have checks and balances. And I know what a lot of people are thinking right now. I'm bringing up Nazi Germany and that always leads up to the gas chambers. Right, and I'm going to lead into some stuff and they're going to go oh yeah, there are no gas chambers in Washington State. Are you saying it's going to get to a place of a gas chamber?
Speaker 3:Nobody's denying your religion. In fact, Fergus and all them, they would poo-poo. Denying your religion? In fact, fergus and all them, they would poo poo. No, no, we only attack grandmothers because it's you know, it's hunting season for grandmothers, yeah, and things like we only only go for a church and use lies to do it. And corruption, uh, you know, it was just, uh, one single little event here didn't mean much and we made some mistakes. But you get my point, I get your point. So there's a lot. People are just totally in denial We've talked about this before that you really couldn't start a New Testament church today.
Speaker 3:It would be impossible and this will be important maybe if we get to it. Same thing the environment is so increasingly more wicked and I don't mean radical, radical, weird kind of things but the only churches that are surviving, and especially washington state, are lukewarm. They don't even realize just how really cold they are. They should, there should be some serious wake-up call and push back and teaching christians how to handle jury duty. Ain't happening, is it no? I got a question about the soda pop thing. Okay, very good analogy. So you, if you shake up the bottle, can you still buy bottles?
Speaker 3:uh, yeah, you can still buy bottles some places okay, so if you shake up the bottle if I remember right and you just set it down going, oh man, I shook it up and let it sit, it goes flat, doesn't it?
Speaker 4:eventually.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if for it to not explode, I mean I think it's you got to leave it in the fridge like a day or two or something well, that's kind of my point I'm stretching your example that the, the left nose or really the impure, know that it's being shaken, the fizz is going out. Yeah, the next they're going to have to pop this thing soon enough to keep the fizz or the hatred, or the whatever going on um, yeah, I know, lisa.
Speaker 3:Like lisa manning, head of king county prosecutors, she literally said yeah, I'm proud of governor ferguson for passing this new hate crime bill. Well, I haven't seen any arrests of those that beat up christians down in se Seattle Park with a hate crime? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:If Christians had done it difference. Well, even if Christians hadn't done it, if she had her wethers, it would be that you were down there at the park increasing hatred. They would have arrested you, correct? Uh, did you hear that trump is also or really his highway secretary, or whatever is saying that the gay pride enticement crosswalk just frame other people, shove their religion and their thoughts down our throats has to go? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, we'll see what happens because this is a big idol to governor ferguson in the state of washington, especially in seattle. Yeah, and you know they've got that crosswalk that if you mar it up or I mean it's a crosswalk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, if you marred or you don't show respect, I don't know what yeah, we gotta kiss it.
Speaker 3:I don't know what yeah, it's a federal crime anyway. It'll be interesting to see, uh, where that goes, because we know bob ferguson's only follows laws he can manipulate the hatred for within the state of Washington, all right. So eventually, 1933, the initial discriminatory laws. Nazis come to power, say, yeah, jews are worthless, can't go there. Same thing, we're kicked out, we can't talk, you couldn't have a kid in public school actually reflecting the gospel, we would be hated and kicked out. All right, and a very real thing. We were run out of the city of Enumclaw because we actually were Christians. Part of the reason we can't get any support by Christians is because we were Christians. That rebuked a part of their doctrine whole sub thing. That's also. Just read your New Testament to see what that's about. All right, then in 1935, there was the 19,.
Speaker 3:Excuse me, in 1935, nuremberg. Laws were passed that escalated the racial policies. That's why when we won World War II, we held the trials to hang these guys in Nuremberg. Because 1935, nuremberg was the big turning point when I believe they just said, in all the things of stripping citizenship, it laid down the legal framework for a systematic persecution of the Jews. So there was a turning point. People need to understand that the sound doctrine. Let's get Timothy Williams, let's run him out of town. Let's let Grant McCall entice a hate crime, commit crimes, let's bury it in sport. It was a significant turning point and he has been promoted. And King County prosecutors I won't go into all the details now, even cover them up more and more, and everybody just ignores it. And yet it was a turning point.
Speaker 3:So in the same way, you've got these Nuremberg laws that all of a sudden, if you were paying attention, you go this is going to go bad. This is going to go bad. In the same way, going after grandma this is all the same time. In the same way, going after grandma this is all the same time. You've got the rainbow laws. You've got stickers downtown Seattle going safe zone for gay people. It all starts out kind of small, this little odd church, and I heard it was a cult. It's minimized, it's put in the corner, so everybody thinks, oh well, we can control it.
Speaker 3:There were so many politicians around Hitler that thought they could just control Hitler or at least calm him down, or that once he got into power he might behave himself more right. Yeah, there's even people probably thinking that Governor Ferguson oh yeah, he did all these radical things and he likes aborting babies and he likes destroying families and he doesn't like homeschool and he likes genitalia manipulated on your children and he likes to send social services after you. Oh, he'll have to calm himself down and play more the governor role, right? Yes, guarantee you, he may be doing that on the facade, but it's like fake wood. It's a veneer Underneath.
Speaker 3:Everything is being laid more and more. Right now, trump has it pushed back, but there's going to come a point when God is just allowing a brief moment here, when we are warning people and have real evidence and facts. This is what's taking place. The question then goes for prosecutors and police and judges. At what point, at what point do you say this is enough, the corruption is too much and I can't allow it to go on? You tell me, jacob, at what point?
Speaker 4:We're talking right now or are we talking in the 30s? The Nazis?
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sorry we're talking right now. I'm just using, if you were okay, you've already decided at some point you can't go along with it. So you spoke out against it. You lost your job, maybe you had to go into retirement. Worst case scenario they came and put you in a concentration camp and that actually happened because there was a few people who actually did stand up against it. That actually happened because there was a few people who actually did stand up against it. In fact, there was one lawyer who put Hitler on the witness stand in a trial and he was mercilessly beaten and taken concentration camps and eventually died just toward the end of the war. He wasn't a Christian or anything, but he paid a serious price for really going after Hitler when it was convenient to do so.
Speaker 4:Serious price for really going after Hitler, when it was convenient to do so. Well, so back to your question. I mean it's already well, we're already past. I mean, if you're a judge or you're a prosecutor or whatever, you should not be going along with what is happening right now.
Speaker 3:That is correct, at least at this point. And don't misunderstand me. I'm not telling you to quit. You know a lot of these and I'm going to put it in quotes these good policemen that at least did maybe an honest job have quit. Anybody working for the Unicom Police Department is crooked period. Yeah, Nobody with any decency could be a policeman or part of that unit and I won't go through. There's all kinds of just do some information requests. You'll see it for yourself and see what's going on. Couldn't be a part of it. I'm not talking to people that just quit because they just quit. Expose it, Oppose it, Speak up strongly every day. Put your job on the line, Seek the living God. Speak up for those who can no longer speak up for themselves. All right, Jacob, let's finish up with. You're a German prosecutor, say 1933, because 1933 to 1935 saw the escalation of laws and everything being mixed in. It was a slow progression.
Speaker 3:You know, slowly, uh interacting things, whether it be social propaganda, uh communication, just ignoring the rights of jews, so on and forth. Same thing we got going on in washington state. It's just slow percolating, until one day it's just too far in your face to do anything about it. So where'd you go to law school, mr Jacob?
Speaker 4:Did I probably went to law school in. Like Berlin, I'm throwing out the largest German city I know of. Wow, you picked one.
Speaker 3:I was thinking more humbug law school, Okay is that the fancy school?
Speaker 4:No, humbug law school. Okay. Is that the?
Speaker 3:fancy school. No, humbug lives in like uh negative oh humbug, oh okay yeah we're jew, we're um scrooge goes humbug. Yes christmas and kind of thing.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right. So you graduated. You've been in the system for a while. You're known as a good old boy, you go along with the system. You're a staunch law and order type individual okay, typical prosecutor, that kind of thing. And you've got a. You've got a jewish friend that you know is a thief. He is a thief, he's a real, he is a thief. Okay, he's a thief, real thief. Uh, he's a criminal.
Speaker 4:Um, hopefully I wouldn't be friends with him, but okay, hypothetically well, you know, he is sure you know, we communicate friends. A strong word oh, okay, we communicate with a lot of people who oh a neighbor. Maybe Is this my neighbor.
Speaker 3:It can be a neighbor, okay yeah, he just knows a thief kind of thing. Okay, and you're watching these laws come inch by inch and so you're having a sense that the rights are being denied and so on and so forth. They catch him stealing, bring him into your courtroom. Okay, he committed the crime. At what point would you not prosecute the crime?
Speaker 4:Well, I would not prosecute the crime if they're sneaking in because in because he's jewish, if we're, if, if they did.
Speaker 3:They didn't sneak it in. What do you know? You know, and I'm kind of setting up they didn't sneak in that he's a jew. They, just they, and I'm using honest in quotes. They come in with a clean charge that he stole and they have evidence.
Speaker 4:They, they have evidence. Have evidence that kind of routine. It's legit. He's definitely guilty of the crime, no doubt, then I guess we would prosecute him. If it's a clean case with clean evidence.
Speaker 3:So, no matter what, between 1933 all the way to 1939, just before the war started no matter what, because he committed the crime, you would actually prosecute.
Speaker 4:Well, I'm assuming you're getting at the concept that if the whole system is rigged and horrible, that I shouldn't be there anyways regardless. Oh, so regardless if the guy is Jewish.
Speaker 3:Pardon Mm-hmm, Regardless if he's in this scenario though, what's the Jewish got to do with anything then? I know this is a problem with these kind of questions. I'm boxing you in a little bit. Here's the deal and you're thinking about and the way you're communicating, and I know this is not what you believe, but the way you communicate is a typical prosecutor. He committed the crime. Actually, a typical juror. Oh, he committed the crime. He's sending him to prison or do whatever right. But the problem is you know that what's waiting him is a concentration camp or that he's being excluded already from society. In other words, the laws are slowly coming in. You know, eventually going to make him wear a yellow star. Yeah, so he's being convicted under that which he actually did. But the implications behind that actual charge and crime? You know he's going to be taken from there, put in a jail cell down with the level of the Jews, or put up with some other German criminals that they're going to beat him up because he's Jewish.
Speaker 4:Oh sure, you already know that he's going to be treated worse in prison because he's Jewish. That's going to happen.
Speaker 3:Going to happen, or the consequences are oh well, we give you six months in jail, but then he winds up disappearing. You know he's going to disappear and be sent to. In the beginning the concentration camps weren't that big and they weren't that notorious. In fact, yeah, they would bring you in, rough you up a little bit, scare you and send you back out, because they wanted to send the terror back out into the system. So people need not think that you know, the concentration camps were built. Then they bring the jews in. No, it was a slow learning process for the government and they, they maximize the fear and the penalty.
Speaker 3:Oh, we put these criminals behind bars and you and you put him in a bad situation. He gets out of prison, he gets out the concentration camp. He says oh, you don't want to go there, they're treating you bad. That's all intentional, to increase the wrath. Well, you're a prosecutor knowing that. The punishment and what's going on in the system or how he got there, let's just say they never really caught him. But you can't deny the fact he's Jewish and he's a known thief. So the evidence is thin. But he's hauled in because he's Jewish. Again, at what point would you go? I have to reveal, I have to oppose, I have to speak up and say this is illegal.
Speaker 4:You would do that as soon as you know that he's going to get worse treatment in prison At whatever point because he's Jewish, and he's going to be treated worse in jail at that point. The system is not I'm using air quotes fair, and it's not just because he's going to receive a harsher sentence. So whatever year that happened is when you should either start exposing it or get out.
Speaker 3:That's a good answer. It's going to be a little bit of a tough answer, true, a tough question to answer?
Speaker 4:Oh, because well, yeah, because I mean it's almost like a moral question. You know, I don't know. It depends on back then, what, how much did people know and when? Eventually everybody knew. But in the beginning some people, I don't know, were they just delusional? Did they purposely ignore it?
Speaker 3:so you're doing what most people don't do. You're thinking, sure, and and that's really the nature of my question there's different temperaments for different people and different levels. But the problem is most prosecutors, most jurors, most police don't have a level.
Speaker 4:They're not even thinking that. They're there for a career.
Speaker 3:Yeah, remember when Judge Laurie K Smith, she got miffed at Malcolm because he questioned the morality of what was going on. And she got all miffed up and said, uh, it is moral. You know she's on her self-righteous. Did I ever mention she's a woman of the year? Yeah, um, so she was on her high horse that her morality, her righteousness, was questioned.
Speaker 3:So when he, malcolm, wrote in the appeal to the three panel judges who happened to be men, by the way and stated, yeah, this was not moral, they mocked him for bringing up the morality. So on the one hand you have judge laurie k smith, proud and fully willing to say in court that what she's doing immoral. Then you go over here and you've got a set of three judges that morals have nothing to do with this. All we deal with is with the law. They didn't actually explain it that way, they just kind of poo-pooed down on him a little bit stating that, oh, he brought up morals. It was really condescending. It wasn't even human in its response. So the same thing in Malcolm's case for the Malcolm Frazier trial. Well, again, they were after Sound Doctrine Church. They were after me, timothy Williams. They succeeded people, by the way, because nobody's thinking about what's actually going on behind the scenes of the charges. We've seen this over in Oregon. The charges had absolutely nothing to do.
Speaker 3:This was about a church, whether the church had the right to do this. Remember Judge Laurie K Smith. She even voided the part of the Washington state constitution that guaranteed freedom of religion. You know, I asked you what the line that would be. Really long before we got to the sound doctrine, or Malcolm Frazier versus the state of Washington versus Malcolm Frazier, people should have been yelling within the system. This was easy to see coming.
Speaker 3:If we had been a gay church, do you think they would have ridiculed the church? No, if we had been a gay church, do you think they would have ridiculed the church? No, same thing. See, you've got with the Jewish going on. If a Jewish criminal came into a German court during that time, you know good, full and well that that thief or that will be treated worse because he's Jewish. In the same way, if we'd been a democratic-type liberal church, would all of this have been brought up? We could have allowed all kinds of behaviors to go on and way.
Speaker 3:If we'd been a democratic type liberal church, would have all of this been brought up. We could have allowed all kinds of behaviors to go on and everything else gone. Do you think they brought it up? No, not all. We were treated worse because we were christians, which fit very much well with what attorney general bob ferguson was doing at the time. Uh, what was going on? Just in the general attitude, all this talk and rhetoric, rhetoric the democrats do and people do against christians, came out in this trial, and so the line has been crossed. Every prosecutor in the state of washington, every person that works within the legal system, every defense attorney, should follow and look at this case very carefully and know that the line has already been crossed, and so they should be presenting that petition, that brief, before every trial that things need to be cleaned up now or this case thrown out. Anything you want to add to that, jacob? Nope, things are so bad, jacob, that if you just remain silent, you do know that you have the right to remain silent, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what the cop usually says if you get pulled over. Yeah, you have the right to an attorney. You have the right to remain silent. If you don't have an attorney, what will be given to you?
Speaker 3:And it doesn't mean anything anymore.
Speaker 2:Think police can't use your silence against you? Think again. Simply staying quiet during a police interrogation or questioning is not enough to protect your rights. Our US Supreme. Court has held that if a police officer is asking you questions and you simply remain silent, that can be used as an admission of guilt. You must tell the police officer. I'm invoking my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. You can't simply remain silent without invoking your rights because that can be used against you as an admission of guilt.
Speaker 3:First of all, if it's a right, that means I carry the right with me. I don't have to decide at some point. Oh well, I want that, right yeah you have it.
Speaker 3:The Constitution says I have the right. I have the right. Yes, I walk around in that right. Yes, make sense, make sense. Well, most people don't know either that the Supreme Court has ruled that. You know that whole business about you're innocent until proven guilty. Yeah, that doesn't start until you're sat down in the courtroom in the little chair to be beat up by the prosecution and the judge. So all of this stuff is meaningless. It's just absurd. So don't think this is like Democrat versus Republican, they're all doing it.
Speaker 3:In fact, there's a case Texas is really bad about. Like you're going to go to the death penalty. I mean, you've been sentenced, you're going that direction and you're going to be fried or whatever they do down there. And you go look, I want the DNA tested at the crime scene. Texas just will not do the DNA testing. They'll just fry you without going to look for evidence, which we're gonna. That's exactly what's going here. Not so much dna, but they just won't look for evidence. So, but you're guilty, but you can't even prove yourself innocent. Yeah, all right. So this prisoner challenged that. It went all the way to the supreme court. The supreme court ruled that, yeah, he could have the dna, which all sounds good and dandy right, except Justice Thomas. Do you know who Justice Thomas is in the Supreme Court?
Speaker 4:I know the name, I couldn't picture him.
Speaker 3:He's one of those that you respect. Most of the time he's kind of, and that's comparing it to the other judges. Most of the time he's kind of, and that's comparing it to the other judges. Most of the time he's reasonable and all that stuff. Well, he, he voted against that, oh, and he goes. What I know, I know, and this is he's the conservative judge and he objected to going. No, all this does is delay the process, and so now we add to the 20 years of appeals before we put the person to death and I'm going wait a minute All they had to do, the state of Texas is do the DNA test, and there had been no delay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how hard is this? This is like nowadays. This is a chump test, correct?
Speaker 3:It actually should be routine on every level I know on everybody.
Speaker 4:You could do an Ancestrycom DNA test for $39.99.
Speaker 3:I'm getting worried more about in the future, that cops are going to fake that DNA stuff. But that's a different story, correct? So why is he whining about that, which is just so easy to be done? It's weird. I don't know what's missing there. There's a disconnect between empathy and a love for the law that is pathological in nature. All right, so we have this whole concept of police will not look for evidence. They're lazy, that's the only explanation, and they have no empathy ability. So unless you're a cop's son or daughter and sitting there, they absolutely do not care. No, yeah, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Which brings me up to and what I'm trying to emphasize at this point is the courts and the system is so bad that prosecutors, prosecutor organizations, defense attorneys everybody needs to be speaking up and doing their part to say we have passed a line that we should have never gone to. You remember our good friend, prosecutor Jason Simmons, who we won't get to today, but he was a TV star, was in a particular TV program and might have considered himself to want to be a movie star. These prosecutors love the center of attention, got sidetracked. All right, we played this before. My main point is he literally King County prosecutors, if you're accused of a sexual crime, believe they do not have to prove anything but one thing. This is what prosecutor Jason Simmons, king County prosecutor. And again they've gone backwards. I guarantee you they may not say this again in a courtroom, but understand that what has come out with the Malcolm Frazier trial shows what is really going on behind the scenes. Now they may have toned this down now and they may not do all the things outwardly they're saying, but behind the scenes they are undermining every single aspect of the legal system within Washington state.
Speaker 3:Let me quote Prosecutor Simmons and listen carefully. He says the state doesn't have to prove anything else other than their age. End quote. You have a man accused of a sexual crime. Going to prison places him at the bottom rung, possibly putting his life in danger. Whatever sentence he gets is a lifelong sentence. It's really life. They lie about it being 23 years. He'll always be monitored. The state is literally saying okay, this girl comes in. She makes the accusation we don't have to prove anything other than let's see your birth certificate. That's it, jacob. Is that not astounding? Astonishing, it's nuts, it's nuts, it's nuts, it's insane. You don't have a legal system at that point. No, you don't even have a detective system at that point, because there's nothing to detect.
Speaker 4:And it's the same attitude you mentioned in a different case. But, justice Roberts, literally, yeah, you know you don't need DNA evidence. So it's from the cops on the streets to the prosecutors at the county level and it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court the same attitude that we don't need evidence, we'll just do what we want.
Speaker 3:And what God is warning is you've crossed the line and you need to repent or you're going to be held accountable for this. Again, this is not a legal system. No, not on any level.
Speaker 3:I play this next clip and most people will recognize who she is, and she does more work than the detectives do. Well, before we play that, jacob, no wonder Detective McCall could engage in his hate crime. He knew the prosecution would not require any evidence. How many other people has he framed with this? If there's no evidence that required, then it's just a matter of the accusation, which also proves, by the way. Then it's just a matter of the accusation, which also proves, by the way, that Simmons and King County prosecutors and the other four that were in charge, and Judge Laurie K Smith, were using this to attack the church, Because here's what the trial would have looked like. We'd have walked in. Your Honor, we're here to prove is a strong word. We're here to prove that Mr frazier did these things. Your honor. And since the state is not required to approve anything else other than one thing, your honor, here's her birth certificate. That's our case. That's our case. Yeah, really, would that not have been the case?
Speaker 4:if they were honest. Your honor, we don't want to do any actual work, we just want to ram this through the courts today. Here's the birth certificate.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I know, flip it a little bit and act like you're playing that this is all reasonable and good to go. My point being here is that since this is all the state had to prove, then all of the church stuff was completely unrelated.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's, true. Yes, correct.
Speaker 3:It's proving that they used this to go after the church, because none of that was needed Correct.
Speaker 4:It was yes, none of all that pulling all the people on the stand to talk about how bad sound doctrine was, and they did this and they did that, boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Yeah, you didn't need it, you didn't have to do that.
Speaker 3:In fact, it was beyond the scope of what the state is really even required to do. So it proves in a hardcore fashion this was about destroying the church, all right. So essentially it's kind of since we're going to play this legal game, this is really what the trial should look like, instead of 28 days of all this unrelated junk that just made everybody bitter toward bitterness of the church, no matter if it was obviously it wasn't real or not. But by the end of the trial you're like man, I just hate somebody, I hate everybody. Hey, this church. I mean, they even show up in the. He made things like showing up to watch the trial if you were a church member, seen as a vile, wicked, mind-controlling type of thing in front of the jury.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the trial should have been here. We have MC here, she's on the stand. Here's her birth certificate. We're done your Honor. The only thing left was her testimony you follow, because the state only has to prove her age, and then she gets up and she goes. This is what happened. Blah, blah, blah. And that would have been over with, at most, a one-week trial. Again, what I'm really proving to everybody you need to wake up for, whether you're a prosecutor or republican democrat anybody else. This is about attacking those who do not bow down to the state of washington in terms of belief and concepts and everything else. This was a watershed moment and people weren't paying attention. All right, now play the clip and then we'll talk about that a little bit and move forward, because we don't go backwards.
Speaker 6:When I interviewed the a thousand women, I realized how often women lied about abuse. The women would say they were abused and I would say, okay, how were you abused? I would ask them like 10 questions and they would just their story would fall apart. Now, if these women are all lying about this, what does that mean about, like, the general population?
Speaker 3:I'm letting her say the obvious. But because king county prosecutors and harborview medical center social services, you just go down the line the police, they all get promotions and they all get attention and they all get to do their little power play because they're addicted to power and part of the shoot-up problem is to accuse people. And certainly detective mccall was looking for something to just break the church from day one before he didn't know that we had come into town, correct, correct? She asked some basic questions and and she goes on to say well, what about this? How are you abused? So on and so forth, and of course she discovers they're lying. We don't have time to look in. Today Women lie, men are built with strengths. They use their arms. It just that's the nature between the two. But when the state of Washington and detectives say, hey, look. But when the state of Washington and detectives say, hey look, the only thing we have to prove is a birth certificate, that you are in absurd territory.
Speaker 3:Now Simmons will lie. He lied to the jury saying well, you know, there's no evidence in the usual, the reasonable use of words. You know physical, tangible type things. Yet there was, they wouldn't go get it, they wouldn't go to the house, they wouldn't go to the exam. And then of course I could go down. We'll be here forever.
Speaker 3:But you can't get into any of the facts, the school records, anybody that's making the accusation. You can't discover who they are. What could be some other motivations? There's no seeking for truth If you serve on a jury personally unless they actually have physical evidence, tangible things, and have proved to me those things.
Speaker 3:And I pick up on no other lies, manipulations, hyperbole-type prosecutions, over-the-top. You present to me the birth certificate, you present to me the evidence. I will find guilty. Otherwise the legal system has crossed a line for which I personally would not be able to stand before God and say that man committed that or that woman did this and they had no proof whatever. Because I know that by the time they're put in that stand, all relevance of truth is gone. And these usually it's girls making these accusations have been thoroughly, heavily, heavily, one more time, heavily manipulated to lie, especially as they move into the public school system aka thank you, bob ferguson. And you throw out all things moral, all things reasonable. Truth is not even relevant. How many jurors even show up having read the constitution of the bill of rights?
Speaker 4:jacob, like zero, minus four, and and if they showed up they won won't get picked. I can tell you that.
Speaker 3:Oh, correct, that was the first question they asked the whole group. They were like who believes you should have evidence in a trial? People put their hand up. They were gone. Yeah, they were gone. The Prosecutor Association should be renouncing this, should be renouncing it. If you're going to help prosecute people, it needs to be done ethically, honestly and, of course, if you claim to be a Christian, in a godly fashion. You know, the Association of Prosecutors for Washington State, Jacob were asking for information requests and so I wanted a list of their ethics, because you would think an organization that is putting people behind prison ethics would be a pretty big deal, right, you would think. You would think I mean, it would just be a normal, you wouldn't really have to be told or asked or anything else. It's like, yeah, we don't do these things. Yeah, would you believe me if I told you they don't have a list of?
Speaker 4:ethics. I would believe you, you would don't have a list of ethics.
Speaker 3:I would believe you. You would, yes, I would. We did receive back their little charter, which you know, says all I'm paraphrasing obviously we're here to help prosecutors prosecute. That that's essentially so what they're really telling me is we don't have ethics, we don't care about ethics.
Speaker 3:they didn't write to me and go, well, we don't have ethics because it's not our focus, and offer some white wars. They just didn't respond to it and they sent back their charter. You get my point. They don't have any ethics, no more than police. Part of the problem the police are such a mess is we get a vast majority of our police from the military. Yes, well, when you go to the military, you sign away your constitutional rights. Soldiers are not out in the battlefield thinking about constitutional rights and the Bill of Rights, correct? No, they are supposed to follow orders.
Speaker 4:That's their job.
Speaker 3:That's it, and then we bring them full circle back into. In fact, mccall was an ex-Marine, which, oh wow, that really fits well. No concept, no caring about the Constitution. He wasn't even taught about that One of his recommendations. Even though he pulls a gun on his fellow officers, they put online that he's good with firearms. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Well.
Speaker 3:I guess he could be good with firearms Technically, I guess he is yeah. I guess he is so you're promoting this kind of guy. They never list with these officers Been to constitutional training classes.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, no.
Speaker 3:Understands the Bill of Rights. Yeah, was deprogrammed from a militaristic attitude and mindset, so the first thing that should happen fine. If you want to bring in police because they're good with guns and blowing things up, they need to be and I'm using it loosely deprogrammed, correct and taught about what's important, correct so washington state.
Speaker 3:What can I say? They voted for bob ferguson and the the republican element is so silent that they might. They might as well. Just go vote for bob ferguson. If you're going to be that lukewarm and that lame and that just about business, then just go vote for him. Don't don't be this, that lukewarm and that lame and that just about business. Then just go vote for him. Don't be this middle lukewarm-y, mushy kind of thing. It's like you're in the way. Let's look at Proverbs 22, 22,. Jacob, let's get into a little bit of scripture here. It's just a short period of time. Hang on, proverbs 22, verse 22. It's just a short period of time. Hang on, proverbs 22, verse 22.
Speaker 3:As we began to move to King County Court to bring in witnesses to say look, listen to what we're telling you, we have proof, we have evidence. The church is made up of strong people, kind of people in the middle, and then there's the vulnerable section of individuals that need a little more attention. Correct, jacob? Yes, it's what we call the humble in the land. Well, when this hate crime was going on, they all attacked the humble in the land. They were attacking everybody, but they went for the elements in the church that are their most humble. They're still valuable, they're very loved in Jesus. They're just more humble. The persons involved went for everybody and were destroyed. Obviously, we ran out of town. The Salt Shaker Christian bookstore was destroyed. Wine Press Publishing was destroyed. The church was ran out of town. I think we saw like two days later Prosecutor Simmons was in town in Enumclaw, no doubt having a nice little celebration where he ran out after the guilty verdict. Anyway, when we bring in the humble within the church to provide the facts, simmons' response and all these was just to crush them, to pulverize them. It would have been nice if they just didn't listen, if they just ignored everything, but they didn't. They crushed those people so the truth could never come forward.
Speaker 3:Proverbs 22, 22. Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, for the Lord will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them case and will plunder those who plunder them. That plunder that was taken, guess. I'm warning you. I'm warning you by the living God prosecutor and Lisa Manning and everybody that's in charge right now in Judge Jorge Smith, you will one day be plundered and it won't just be for a short period of time, you were able to run all of us out of the city of Enumclaw. You destroyed people's lives, their goods were stolen, our rights were crushed. It was a crushing time. It literally was a wine press where things were being crushed down. One day, one day, that will be your reward for eternity.
Speaker 3:Why did I bring that all up again? Because it's proof again that this case and this situation was not about the accusation. It was about taking down a church. If you simply just have to come in and your attitude is whether you say it verbally or not, I guarantee you they're probably smart enough not to say that anymore and say all we need is a birth certificate. You do not, people listen. You do not have a legal system anymore. It doesn't exist. It comes down to, then, who gives the best performance. That's all it really comes down to, and, of course, the defense is totally in a weakened position.
Speaker 3:Remember, judge? Okay, smith, had we? We wanted to interview, uh, the person who was making the accusations, because you're looking for inconsistencies, you're looking well, in this case, it would be consistent if he actually did it. I'd like to know. Sure, and we never got there. So the judge says oh yeah, you can have 30 minutes, never mind. We couldn't look at school records, you couldn't really go anything with the family or any depth and all that kind of stuff. So you got 30 minutes, 30 minutes. By the time you do their name and where you live and what you do, you're already down to 15. And I guarantee you if the attorney was there representing this manipulated witness, they'd have laid it along. So the 30 minutes would have gone by pretty quick, correct, really quick.
Speaker 3:Well, guess what? Prosecutor Simmons and the prosecutors never even showed up for the meeting. It was just for 30 minutes, a judge's order and they never showed up and their excuse was no adult could be found to bring her in to do the interview. Again, we don't have a legal system anymore. These prosecutors are completely corrupt. These judges are corrupt. I mean, you have a sheriff. Somebody was delivering newspapers, a minority individual, for whatever reason. Of course these police get stuff in their head. So the sheriff goes yeah, there's this guy out there and he's got a gun. And so, all naturally, the whole police department zooms in, shows up, surrounds this guy. There was no gun, he was delivering newspapers, all right. So then he's taken to court. Well, the jury finds him not guilty. I mean, he admitted before we got there. He admitted he lied.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Before he even went to trial, trial and the jury found him not guilty. What am I bringing that for is to prove that the judge and the prosecutor did not do that thing to win. There was no way that was possible. If they'd have done what they did to us, to him and to that whole police department, he'd have been found guilty. It's a sham, and those are going for jury duty. And your little neighbor that's going in for jury duty. You need to wake them up before they go in there.
Speaker 3:All right, mr Jacob, really this is the whole reason for the podcast at this point, but it's just taken me a long time to get there. Anything you want to say before I jump in? Really, kind of part two, I suppose? Nope, go ahead. What needs to happen is I had a sample legal brief created that was done by AI. I'm not a lawyer, I'm not giving legal advice. Thank you, lawyers that I have to admit that I'm not a lawyer and I'm not giving legal advice. Nobody has any full responsibility to think for themselves that you're letting to consider podcast and that this is a Christian thing and I'm not offering legal advice. So I have to constantly do the disclaimer. Thank you so much for all those added words. You want to thank the lawyers out there, jacob? No, it's okay, you sure? Sure, we need to thank him, because otherwise, what all this filler stuff going?
Speaker 3:All right, this is a sample legal brief created by AI, by lawyers, and what it is is a motion to dismiss charges because of systematic corruption. Every defense attorney and if you're being accused out there in the state of Washington, you need to or really put on some pressure I'm trying to be nice here that your defense attorney write up day one presents this sample legal brief and all it really says is that the corruption is so bad I mean, when you really are down to, all we need is a birth certificate that the corruption is so bad. There's no way that this can even be brought to trial, because it's. How else can I word that, jacob? It's just so bad, it should be thrown out. The system is just too broken.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's so corrupt you won't get a fair trial.
Speaker 3:We know that Correct, so it's like Nazi Germany. We know that, correct, so it's like Nazi Germany. At what point would you bring in this legal motion and say I can no longer be a part of it and provide the facts to the courtroom of why it's so corrupt? The idea behind this is defense attorney associations need to start a web page and on the web page it lists all the corrupt things they know of that are going on, and maybe all the things that are quote unquote legal but are still not lawful, and lists those two so that, a, when somebody goes to jury duty, they're informed.
Speaker 3:And number two, this list would continue to grow so that it can be added to this legal brief. Am I making sense, jacob? Yes, you can, certainly. I would have you start, obviously, with the Malcolm Frazier trial, because, man, it has so many angles to it that this legal brief would actually grow in proportion. Then you could list the sheriff that admitted to lying and bringing all his cop friends in to protect him and yet still found innocent. That could be listed.
Speaker 3:And so every and there's tons of grandmas, the um, you know, forcing to arrange flowers for gay individuals, and so on and so forth, and can you imagine what's out there, and so this brief keeps going. So it's always new and you bring it before a judge. It's not the same stamp thing, it has all the new things about it. So the judge, they'll eventually shut this down. But the judge would have to rule and say, no, this corruption doesn't matter. And then we know who they are. Or, yeah, you're right, they need to fix the system Any more on that, jacob. No, all right, go ahead and play this, and then we might discuss a little bit more afterwards.
:Sample legal brief Motion to dismiss charges Systematic Corruption. The following sample legal brief does not constitute legal advice. Rather, it is a recommendation from a layperson suggesting that defense attorneys should move to dismiss all charges at the beginning of each trial citing systemic corruption within the Washington State legal system. This brief aims to present a continuous account of the wrongs, corruptions and absurdities attributed to Washington State. The Washington State Bar Association has eliminated the requirement for bar exams, indicating a shift from upholding constitutional law to fostering oppression against those who do not conform to a specific political agenda. This raises the critical question at what point must an individual in the legal profession unequivocally denounce the corruption? To rephrase the query, as Germany descended into the era of Nazi rule, enacting one oppressive law after another, at what juncture should a judge, police officer or prosecutor have felt compelled to resist, renounce and expose the legal corruption In Seattle and King County? That line has been crossed. It's imperative for prosecutor associations, law enforcement and judges to begin shedding light on these corrupt practices. The case of State v Malcolm Fraser cause number 12-1-01886-0, exemplifies a profound instance of corruption that can be built upon for renewed objections in the courts of Washington State.
:7 Irrefutable Facts of the State of Washington vs Malcolm Fraser. 1. The Washington government hotly refused to investigate clear evidence of a hate crime. 2. From the outset, seattle-king County courts have shielded Enumclaw detective Grant McCall's illegal activities. 3. Despite the abundance of evidence disproving the allegations of sex crimes, an investigation was never pursued. Calls for such an inquiry were systematically blocked. 4. Seattle King County prosecutors misused the law, leveraging Detective Grant McCall and his co-conspirators' hate crime activities to dismantle a church that stood in opposition to Washington state beliefs. This situation reflects Washington state's anti-Christian sentiment, contributing to a severe miscarriage of justice through prosecution. 5. Judge Beth M Andrus, from the very beginning, while ruling that Detective Grant McCall had committed misconduct, made sure to whitewash McCall's illegal activities. Judge Beth M Andrus' whitewash ruling, without any evidence and zero investigation into the hate crime, allowed the legal system to fully corrupt the oppression by future prosecutors and judges.
:6. Judge Lori K Smith severely corrupted the trial by undermining the defense's rights and obstructing their ability to mount a vigorous defense. In short, like Detective Grant McCall, frame judges in Washington state ensured the trial would result in a conviction for prosecutors Seven. The whole of this trial focused on crushing the rights of a church that Detective Grant McCall and co-conspirators sought to destroy. The sexual allegations were the pretext to permit Washington state to oppress and crush Christianity. In essence, the trial of Malcolm Fraser should never have occurred. Those implicated in the hate crime should be incarcerated, while those who lied to benefit the prosecution should face charges of perjury. To this day, the evidence supporting these claims is overwhelming and can be found at wwwenuminfo. The Consider Podcast Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness. Wwwconsiderinfo.
Speaker 3:Now the actual sample legal brief will be online. I'm not going to play that here. It's a bunch of legal talk, but that explains why it's there and why it needs to start happening. Any questions or comments on any of that? Jacob? No Kind of self-explanatory, isn't it? Mm-hmm? Yeah Well, did you know that the city of Enumclaw police, tim Floyd and all of their constitution-loving Bill of Rights followed the law Police station want to put up license plate reader scanners?
Speaker 4:I heard about that.
Speaker 3:City of Enumclaw. Yeah Well, that should help Detective McCall, because he watches to see when new churches come into town. That's true. You want to play that little clip for us? Court testimony King County Court Judge Lori K Smith, beth Andrus and all their fine minions listen to him say this in a court of law that supposedly holds up the constitution and the bill of rights, logic being reasonable and everything good. Right, jacob, let's listen to what he has to say about his sense of power, entit and his role to keep Enumclaw safe. This is what he said.
Speaker 5:When a new church comes into a community, the first thing they do is send out flyers to everybody and say we're in the church and we'd like people to come. We have this, going on, this, going on this, going on a bunch of things. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in. Their group at the time they came into Enumclaw, we didn't even know they were there, they just came in. We didn't even know they were there.
Speaker 5:They just came in, they just came in, they just came in.
Speaker 3:Are we listening to what this dictator of a cop is saying? This isn't the United States of America, can't be, because we just came into town.
Speaker 4:We just came in.
Speaker 3:First of all, he's lying. He knew we were there. The backstory is there.
Speaker 3:The back story is there. You can find another podcast, but let's just take his current lie as if it were something worth accepting. Are people listening that this is in a courtroom with a judge sitting there and he is saying that a group of people you won't use the word church at this point, but a group of people, church just showed up. That means when you're just driving through Enumclaw or you're moving to Enumclaw, you can't just show up and they want license plate readers. Am I missing something? This is like totally astounding. Nobody complained, nobody whined. The judge didn't go.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about? This is America. People are free to come and go as they please. Right, correct? Yeah, everybody needs to know that when you're going through Enumclaw and they're reading your license plate, don't think well, I haven't done anything wrong. Because if you just show up without telling him to captain mccall and, by the way, he's training other detectives, he's been promoted about this that somehow you have committed a crime, you're evil, you're a cult, you're wicked, you're vile, because you just showed up without how would we logically do this?
Speaker 3:jacob, suppose we were going to actually obey what he is saying, you would send out flyers.
Speaker 4:That's what you got to do. You got to have the flyers. That's what he says when a new group comes to towns, they send out fires. But we didn't do that, so you need to print flyers.
Speaker 3:Well, what's the time frame? I mean immediately. We only opened up a bookstore. You know, we, only our church was like right down there downtown. It moved around several times, all right, so is it 24 hours? I have the flyers. Do I mail the fly? I have the flowers. Do I mail the flowers, flowers, flyers ahead of time? What's the grace period that the great detective, mccall, dictator cop allowing a church to do before they're seen as being illegal and vile? What's the time frame?
Speaker 4:I don't know, I couldn't say because I wouldn't want to put words in his mouth, but apparently quickly, very, very quickly.
Speaker 3:This ought to be. The church is so dead. This should have been plastered everywhere throughout the state. Do you think the Association of Prosecutors are all upset that McCall like? Yeah, that supposedly we made a big deal out of the fact that McCall didn't like the church? Yeah, because just driving or moving to Enumclaw is a crime in his mind because we didn't send out flyers.
Speaker 4:according to the great church planter, enumclaw Detective McCall according to the great church planter, em Claude Detective McCall, I guess, is this like the Catholic Church and it has to be blessed. He needs to bless your church coming in.
Speaker 3:Well, think of the consequences of this. The Pope is like a saint compared to him, because he literally ran us out of town, correct? Yeah, he laid the foundation for the slander and the violence. Everything is going on, right. Yep, he's the one that stirred up king county prosecutors to do that. Really was an inquisition. I have the videos if you want to watch it. It was, they were emotionally gone. The simmons was like, you know, he couldn't even think you get this. It's a cult hysteria. Or when you're hanging people, you're you're not really talking to anybody because they're not hearing you. It literally was this emotional for them? An overwhelming thing that that they clearly were not thinking at all about what was going on. This was just lynch the church and deal with it and we're self-righteous, right. It's just that mentality. Yeah, all right. Now, which brings me up to Bob. Ferguson wants to know what you're confessing in the confession booth, if you're Catholic, you heard about this, jacob.
Speaker 4:I have heard about this briefly.
Speaker 3:Yes, this uh, relentless going after Christians. That's why it'll just never stop, he, he. If they did this to enum claw and it had to get toned back because we've been pushing back and all these things going on, it's just never going to stop. Well, the washington, whatever has created a bill 5-3-7-5, that if you confess to certain things in the booth obviously sexual stuff that the priest has to report to the authorities and that would be the unconstitutional social services. And, by the way, you can't have an organization that is exempt from the Constitution without being a foreign government agency. It's just, that's not. Logically, the whole basis of our nation is built upon the Constitution of the United States, so a court can't come along and go. Well, social services doesn't have to follow the Constitution because we're all under the Constitution and by coming in and saying they don't have to follow the Constitution, they're no longer a part of the United States governmental system. Is that clear?
Speaker 4:Yeah well, they're breaking the law, they're outside the system.
Speaker 3:It's a different government system and they're behaving that way. And if you look at Lisa Manning, who's in charge of the King County prosecutors, and you think she went to all these law schools about crimes, if you look at most of her experience, it all is about social justice, social work. That's what she did. What we're finding here, what people need to wake up to the in-call trial was social services and their lynch mob mentality, and everybody abuses everybody and they don't have to follow the Constitution and they don't have to follow the law. That was finally brought into a legal court, a criminal side of the legal court. That's what you saw going on, all right.
Speaker 3:So swinging back to Bob Ferguson's Confession Booth, bill no 5375. That we were prosecuted because people did confess their sins and bring them out in the light so that everybody could pray for everybody. Does that make sense? Do you see the irony of all this? We're prosecuted because we did it and yet Bob Ferguson doesn't mind you doing it, as long as you report it to the state, correct? Well, thankfully the Trump administration is suing washington state over this. It's really an anti-catholic law, I mean. It's obvious what's going on, correct?
Speaker 4:but I do find it. It's an anti-christian law and it really is the easiest pickings currently is the catholics, so that's what they're going after first and they make the perfect point that it'll never end.
Speaker 3:In fact, the person that's bringing in I don't have her name just up front right now has stated look, this stuff never ends. And of course it never ends. Just as a side note, washington State. Mr Bob, you're not worthy to be told these things. You're not worthy to be told these things. You are so corrupt and so far gone that it would literally be the blind leading the blind. You don't know what. You are corrupt with the information. You have lost that privilege to be entitled to that information. So, whether or not it's a good law or not, or should be required and I'm not really going to deal with that in a moment I'm going to explain to you what confessing a sin is really about in a moment. Whether it's a good law or not, it doesn't matter if it's a good law. It's a good law to a bad state, correct, and the bad legal system is not entitled to another good law. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:They're so corrupt If you've got somebody that you know is a constant liar. I mean, they're just relentless, they're a pathological liar, right yeah, would you ever tell them the truth? No Same thing. Why would I ever tell you would not entrust them with the truth?
Speaker 4:You just wouldn't entrust them. You can't confide in that type of a person.
Speaker 3:Correct, no more than the in-call police are entitled to license plate readers because they have lost. They're not honest. It's provable. You don't give them that kind of power. They first have to clean up their act, confess their sin, whatever. In the same way, bob Ferguson and the whole war system is not worthy of that information. It won't be helpful at all. You've got the Seattle Times like going oh yeah, you know now there'll be no excuse. The Catholic Church will have to do this, this will all have to be brought into the open and there'll be no excuse for it.
Speaker 3:And I'm thinking, wait a minute. The Seattle Times that does everything possible to pervert sexuality, to take children away from their parents, to go along with the mutilation of genitalia, all those things, wants this information and they think they can do some good with it. Look, if you want to deal with a whole great deal like just really strike against child molestation and all that thing, clean up the public schools, correct. Get the sexualization out of the government, allow morality, allow me to preach, instead of coming in, mr Simmons, and shutting down righteous preaching and prosecuting it with false charges. How about getting out of the way and let me say what I need to say how about allowing Christians in downtown Seattle to have a picnic without it turning into a hate crime by the gay people? If you really really wanted Seattle Times to deal with the problem, deal with it so it doesn't happen. By bringing this law in that you have to report these things, not only will there be more mass destruction by the state of Washington toward the family and individuals, and you'll cause the people that were even molested to participate and have more problems in their life because you're involved.
Speaker 3:There's nothing about anything the state of Washington has done that has actually helped these people. They keep them as victims forever. They just roll with it. We've increased the liars within the state of Washington. There is no good that has come from the state of Washington dealing to protect children. There's no good that has come from the state of Washington dealing to protect children. Has there, jacob? No, we wouldn't even be in this mess. So, bob Ferguson, I hope I made it very, very clear. If you want this, if you want this put forth Seattle Times, you need to repent. How about getting the plank out of your own eye? Ever heard of that? Mm-hmm? All right Now, jacob, what would be one way that Seattle Times could get the plank out of their own eye.
Speaker 4:Well, they would have to entirely shut down and fire all their current staff.
Speaker 3:Nah, just let me write a column that goes in every week, oh okay, and let's just see how far the toleration goes. Mm-hmm, all right, I'm reminded of Ecclesiastes 10.5. It says there is an evil I have seen under the sun the sort of error that arises from a ruler. Gang number five, three, seven, five is a powerful error that will only increase child molestation, will only increase it. Yeah, it's required, all right, do I agree, then, with the confession booth? Anybody who's listened or, to you know, tuned into this podcast, what do do you think, jacob? Do you think I agree with the booth?
Speaker 4:Well wait. So now we're talking about do you agree with the Catholic way of confessing sin, correct when?
Speaker 3:I'm drawing with. Okay, what the state of Washington is doing is worthless, but don't get the idea that I'm all in favor of.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that you're pro-Catholic.
Speaker 3:I don't even know that I'm in favor of the vow of silence kind of thing, or that you can't say anything about it. It's immaterial, because the state of Washington and the King County prosecutors and the prosecutor's station are just so corrupt they're not entitled to the information Correct. By the way, let me give this little piece of advice. It's not legal advice, that's my disclaimer. If you're feeling, in the Lord, you're being convicted about the crime you've done, well, okay, even if you're not being convicted, you've done the crime. Don't tell me, don't tell a priest, don't tell anybody else. Go tell a lawyer and turn yourself in First of all. You get a much better deal.
Speaker 3:We were persecuted by prosecution because we actually wanted a trial. So if you've done this crime and you know you need to pay for it or whatever is going through your mind, go see a lawyer first, get that taken care of. Then talk to somebody about the spiritual aspect of it. That would be my advice. If somebody was coming to me and I was sensing what they were coming for or going to suggest, I'd say go see a lawyer first, turn yourself in, do whatever that lawyer, well, whatever your lawyer, and you decide go do that. Does that make sense, jacob? That makes sense. Now let me talk for a moment about what true confession of sin is. People need to understand that. Okay, the booth is not where this is supposed to be, a church kind of thing, where it's kind of out in the open. Now that doesn't mean you confess I'm thinking Simmons. Well, actually, we did Remember we were persecuted and prosecuted for actually doing this thing.
Speaker 4:But there's a great deal of go ahead, Jacob. What does walking in the light mean? What does walking in the light mean? What does walking in the light mean to you? I'm just quoting Simmons Check this, you have to tell me everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Everything, everything, everything. You're so busy telling me everything you're doing I can't have a life. So technically mine says I didn't do anything but listen to everybody and what they were doing all day, long, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:All right. Proverbs 28, 13 says he who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy. All I'm worried about is them finding the mercy of the Lord and those that are victims of finding healing in the situation you know it's called. Blessed are the peacemakers. That doesn't mean people don't go to jail. It doesn't mean all these it may or may not be true. I'm not giving you a judgment on anything. I'm telling you what confession is about. He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy. So there's got to be this. You can't just have like I don't know the current murderers, that he confessed to the crime but he's not renouncing them. Right, correct? So he's not in a position to find mercy. I'm repeating it again. We were literally. A man is in prison because when you practice walking in the light that which Bob Ferguson wants a report on, yeah Well, if you do away with the confession, simmons, there's no light about what's going on.
Speaker 3:Correct 1 John 1, verse 6. I'm just going to read this is what confessing sin is about and, by the way, this is a very serious, strong warning. Don't live this. Do not confess your sins to anybody else. The church is so bad, the foundation is so gone. There is nobody you can trust. Now that I've made that clear, you may have to be crucified with Christ out in public, meaning you may have to confess your sins to those that you know are going to betray you. You know they're called Judas's, but my recommendation is don't try and live this without a solid foundation on understanding what the message of the cross is and that the other person that you're confessing with and sharing these things is on the same path, has the same foundation, has gone through the narrow gate and is walking the narrow road. In other words, practice extreme caution. I'm not recommending any church actually institute this or do this, because the state will come in and there are so many false Christians in the church. They will use it against you. That doesn't mean you've done any type of criminal activity. It just means they will use it as a power play over you, and they will use it in such a way for the gossip nature of things, jacob, is there anything you want to add to that kind of thing? No, all right.
Speaker 3:1 John, 1.6. If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. Ding, ding, ding, go get him, prosecutor, simmons. 1 John, 1.7. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another. It's not a booth, it's fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his son, purifies us from all sin. Confessing sin is the powerful way to overcome sin and to be forgiven of sins. Did you catch that, simmons? So all that little? Oh, we felt guilty. Well, you weren't walking in the light then Don't blame me, blame your liars, all right, 1-8.
Speaker 3:If we claim to be without sin, boy, does that sound like some prosecutors to you, jacob? Yes, does it sound like some prosecutor organizations to you? Yeah, how about some police stations? Yeah, if we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. No wonder prosecutors and police and judges lie. I mean, in fact, for any of them to actually tell the truth. It's like fireworks go off. You notice it right away. Wow, they actually stole the truth. Yeah, all right. So here we are, 1 John 1.9. I'm going to let you read it, jacob.
Speaker 4:Go for it. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Speaker 3:What can I say? It's a grand promise, and if you can find another brother or sister to walk in the light with this and do this, there's great power in it. All Bob Ferguson's doing is defiling something most holy, which is not surprising, Mm-hmm. All prosecutor King County prosecutors did was destroy that which was. What Jackson's doing is defiling something most holy, which is not surprising. All King County prosecutors did was destroy that which was purely good, purely righteous, loving and holy. Verse 10, read that one, Jacob.
Speaker 4:If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar, and his word has no place in our lives.
Speaker 3:That sounds like prosecutors, sounds like a lot of self-righteous Christians. They don't walk with humility about their sin. They act like, well, I'm just forgiven in Jesus Christ. Well, I'm just forgiven in Jesus Christ. You know, bob Ferguson, all you're doing is forcing every church in the state of Washington to become lukewarm, and especially Catholic churches. Nobody's going to do anything.
Speaker 3:I suppose in a wicked way, that's probably what he's after, whether he realizes it or not. That's what the evil one is using him for. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar. Prosecutor Simmons, king County prosecutors, lisa Manning, all these people. They are making God out to be a liar by the things that they do and their behavior. And it says his word has no place in our lives. What do you think, jacob? You think, as we went through that trial, which we filmed and have records for everything, there was any respect, thought of that there could be the possibility of the word of God in all this? No Good bottom line All right, you got to go see John the Baptist.
Speaker 3:I'm going to wrap this up because we're going long. Matthew 3, 6 says the people came out to be baptized by John and out in the open, in front of everybody, it says, confessing their sins. They were baptized by him in the Jordan River. Oh, bob Ferguson, king County prosecutors, the more sinners confess their sins, the more holy and righteous would be the state of Washington. Amen, jacob, amen. But since they oppose that, it ain't gonna happen. Jacob, take us out of here.
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