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Snow, Scripture, And The Nine Leper Church
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It may be rainy…
It may be cold…
It may be snowing blizzards…
But let us consider how to prepare for snow as we discuss the 1st Church of the 9 Lepers…
Girls Gone Bible…
And a sign of authority…
In the year of our Lord 2026, on The Consider Podcast with your hosts Timothy and Jacob
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Job 37, 5 and 6. God's voice thunders in marvelous ways. He says to the snow, fall on the earth, and to the rain shower, be a mighty downpour. It may be rainy, it may be cold, it may be snowing blizzards. But let us consider how to prepare for snow as we discuss the first church of the nine lepers, girls gone bible, and a sign of authority in the year of our Lord, 2026, on the Consider Podcast, with your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.
SPEAKER_11:Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.
Timothy:How's it going this morning, Jacob? It's going good. Going good. I'm thinking about uh moving east. Oh, okay. You know how I like the snow. You know, I I really, really enjoy the snow. Yeah. So the only way to really fix that problem is to move out east.
Jacob:Oh uh yeah, the the west coast and the western half of the U.S. has been dry and warm and lame.
Timothy:Now, the only thing that would happen, what would happen if I moved out east to, you know, rid of my love of snow.
Jacob:What would happen? The East Coast will dry up. It'll be the driest winter in 20 years, and the West Coast will get dumped.
Timothy:Exactly, exactly. You know, when I was in the college going through psychology classes, they had what's called, I think, if I remember right, aversion therapy. So let's say you had a phobia about snakes, right? Yeah. I kind of one go ahead.
Jacob:Oh, I kind of do have a phobia of snakes.
Timothy:Oh, good, I'll be glad to cure you because here's what they do they they put you in a room full of snakes.
Jacob:Oh, there is no way that would cure me.
Timothy:Yeah, it would. It'd cure you if never going to a psychologist.
Jacob:Okay, yes.
Timothy:Yes, it would. So, anyway, uh that's my theory, but it would always backfire. So, the important thing to do is, especially if you're out east, or you know, eventually Washington State may actually get some snow. You gotta be prepared, right? Yes. Well, let's talk about being prepared, and let's also talk about what what is God doing here? Um, what is what is he trying to manipulate? Manipulate a strong word. What is he trying to shepherd men into doing? Uh go ahead and play the forecast, though. Uh, this was just like a day or so when I was preparing the notes, and let's listen to the snow forecast that's in the future for the east.
SPEAKER_01:On the other hand, two Arctic blasts are about to surge out of Canada. The first polar plunge will arrive on Wednesday, driving temperatures down by as much as 20 to 30 degrees across the eastern United States. But this will also come with a surprise snow threat for the Ohio Valley and East Coast. But the second Arctic blast will be way more intense. This surge of Arctic air will hit Friday and Saturday, leading to bone-chilling cold across the eastern third of the country. Additionally, a widespread snow event will impact tens of millions of people. So, in today's forecast, I'm gonna break down exactly what you need to know about this big weather pattern change that is about to impact the United States. Temperatures will drop by as much as 10 to 30 degrees in some locations, and then by Friday and Saturday, notice how just off to the north of the Great Lakes, we're gonna have a large low pressure system developing. And this is what's gonna bring our next shot of significant snowfall to some areas. But on top of that, some very cold air, and even in some cases, dangerous and life-threatening cold across the Great Lakes and the Northeast. And this is where temperatures will fall by as much as 50 degrees within only 24 hours. So extreme cold is on the way this weekend, and it's not gonna go anywhere anytime soon because by the middle of next week, that cold air is still going to be sitting in the mid-Atlantic and the Northeast. While that's happening, we will have a large area of warm weather developing across the Great Plains, the Midwest, and back towards the West Coast. This will help to melt some of the snow back over in parts of the Midwest by the beginning of next week.
Timothy:Now it's possible that this is the end of the world. Did you see the movie uh Day After Tomorrow, Jacob?
Jacob:Yes, I did, long time ago.
Timothy:Yeah, you remember how the cold air comes blasting down, and I like the helicopters instantly fall out of the sky.
Jacob:Yeah, a wall, a wall of cold air.
Timothy:A wall of cold air. And really that movie should have been entitled A Trip to the Mall, because that's really what he was doing. I can't think of the actor's name. You know, he's trudging to find, of course, trying to find your family.
Jacob:It is Quaid, yeah. Okay, yes.
Timothy:Um anyway, so it's either the end of the world and all the prophecies in this documentary called A Day After Tomorrow is coming true, and pretty soon everything will just be frozen in their place, and I guess that's the end of us.
Jacob:I guess so.
Timothy:Or God is working something else or attempting to do, He's trying to bless man. And by the way, these are seriously cold temperatures. They were yeah, they were talking about in some places, like it wouldn't even be safe to even be in your house, uh, and it wouldn't be at those kind of drops because you're not used to it. Yeah. Well, let's look at Job chapter 37, starting verse two, and go ahead and play the scripture of that, and this is what we're talking about, and this is what God is attempting to do.
SPEAKER_00:Job chapter 37, verses two through fourteen. Listen, listen to the roar of his voice, to the rumbling that comes from his mouth. He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth. After that comes the sound of his roar, he thunders with his majestic voice. When his voice resounds, he holds nothing back. God's voice thunders in marvelous ways, he does great things beyond our understanding. He says to the snow, fall on the earth, and to the rain shower, be a mighty downpour. So that all men he has made may know his work, he stops every man from his labor. The animals take cover, they remain in their dens. The tempest comes out from its chamber, the cold from the driving winds. The breath of God produces ice, and the broad waters become frozen. He loads the clouds with moisture, he scatters his lightning through them. At his direction, they swirl around over the face of the whole earth to do whatever he commands them. He brings the clouds to punish men, or to water his earth and show his love. Listen to this, Job. Stop and consider God's wonders.
Timothy:Well, what is God trying to do? And you know, Orchard State gets its fair share of moisture and all that. What's God trying to do here, Jacob? Well, he wants men to repent, and he wants them to consider For most of mankind that's true, and even for his saints to stop and consider the power, the grace, the love, the punishment, the strengths of God, the wonder of how he does it all. Um so when God shuts everything down, I don't know what most people do, but I don't think it's going in and sitting down at their table, maybe cracking open the Bible, or we even without the Bible, just sitting there and thinking about the wonder and the power of God. I'm sure if everybody's stuck in airports and stuff, there's more grumbling and complaining going on than contemplation. Read Job 37 verse 7 there. That's the main one I want us all to consider and to pass on in our churches and two people we know and our neighbors next door, whom whoever they may be, pagans or not. Go ahead and read Job 37 verse 7, Jacob.
Jacob:So that all men he has made may know his work. He stops every man from his labor.
Timothy:Next time we whine, next time we complain, and everybody likes to talk and complain about the weather. I don't uh uh have you heard of many discussions about how well I guess you do. You know, it's beautiful sunshine out, people like that kind of thing. So yeah. So weather is one of the main topics. So clearly, weather is one of God's largest ways he just communicates his power and his glory. I mean, it's amazing the position of the earth and the position of the sun. And science will tell you that if any of those things were out of kilter just by a very little distance, we wouldn't even have life, let alone weather or the coolness of breeze or falls or seasons or anything else like that. Again, Job 37, verse 7, so that all men he has made may know his work. He wants us to sit down and consider and think about what exactly he has done. I'm just today I posted on our newspaper site that scientists are debating and still talking about whether we live in a simulation or not, whether the universe is, you know, a made-up computer type program. Well, Jesus very clearly said that there are many rooms in my father's house. The universe that we see is just one room. And not necessarily a simulation, everything is set up. So there is that simulation aspect to it, and within that simulation, of course, is free will and us choosing or not choosing. And so one of the things God uses, and I'm only going to use the scientific term, although I don't like it, simulation of Earth and the universe to send some thunderstorms and tornadoes and rain and sunshine and growing crops or destroying crops to let us know, to stop us and what we're doing and where we're heading, so that we might consider exactly what's going on. In fact, I didn't even know that Job listens to the Consider Podcast. Oh, he does. Yeah, this is cheesy. Read Job chapter 37, verse 14 there, Jacob.
Jacob:14. Listen to this, Job. Stop and consider God's wonders. He got it from us, the Consider Podcast.
Timothy:Yeah. All right, so you want to be ready, right? Yes. What would be some things that you would do? Well, you know, you want to be ready. Let's say it's either flood where because Washington State's more known for that than snow. But either way, what would you do to kind of be ready?
Jacob:For a like big storm?
Timothy:Yeah, pick, you know, to the point that you can't get even out of the house and work. Everything is shut down like this kind of serious weather that comes along where you really can't even function. You're just you can't go anywhere, you're not going to the grocery store, everybody's cleaned out the grocery stores. Uh the hurricane's coming, doesn't come, whatever, but everybody's shut down and shut up, and you got the dogs inside and the pets and everything, and everybody's just kind of waiting for the storm to come and disappear. What would you want to have to be ready?
Jacob:Well, top three things. We uh usually have quite a bit of food in the house anyway. So we're we're usually always good on food. You got to have plenty of fuel and then plenty of wood. So wood is not a fuel? Oh, wood is a fuel. Oh, I was thinking like, well, you want to have your generators ready. Oh, you want to make sure your cars are topped up just in case the gas stations are like closed and there's power outages. So infrastructure breakdowns.
Timothy:Wow. You actually did a pretty good job there. I was giving you a hard time about the wood thing, but you you immediately came up with one, two, three, and what was the last one you said? Infrastructure, whatever.
Jacob:Well, you have to prepare for the infrastructure to go down. So if your gas tanks in your car are full, so you last can last a few days if you need to drive. Wood is for heat, and we already have lots of food.
Timothy:Yeah, but what if the internet goes down? I mean, yeah, those are all superficial, like food and fuel and keeping warm. I mean, how are you gonna handle when the internet goes down? Well, I have Starlink. Okay. Uh uh, it's so cold this the satellites fall out of the sky.
Jacob:What are you gonna what are you gonna do? It's already cold in space. Uh then I will I will uh go without.
Timothy:Go without. So I'm giving you hard time. You're gonna need calming medication on hand so nobody can get to the case. No internet. You'll need your shotgun too, because people then in other homes won't have anything to do, they won't be prepared, and they're gonna come for your property because they're gonna see that you're happy and you're well put together.
Jacob:Well, that would be a very long outage, uh, but but yes.
Timothy:Oh well, and now we're really playing at this. I think of the internet down, a long outage could be three days before people really start going at it.
Jacob:Society could collapse.
Timothy:But we're all wrong. Okay. You're wrong, I'm wrong, that's not how you prepare. Okay. The snow is coming, the stores are closed out, the uh you can't buy anything, but but none of that is a concern. Okay. You know, putting your car up, all that. Play this next. This guy really has what is important, and he takes full responsibility. This is amazing. He takes full responsibility for not being prepared.
SPEAKER_15:Pretty good, but I'm running out of beer, which is a problem.
SPEAKER_16:And weed. But that's my own fault. I should have stocked up ahead of time, honestly.
Jacob:That's all you need, Jacob, is beer and weed. I don't know. He sounds slightly high already. He's like, eh, but that's my own fault. I should have been ready.
Timothy:Well, yeah, if you wanted to be busted by police, really, like he starts questioning, well, that's my own fault. It's like, okay, dude, what else are you gonna confess to because you're high? I I get it. Yeah. Uh when I saw this, I'm laughing. Well, you know what, technically, in the worldly kind of way, I guess if you had your beer and you had your weed, you well, I guess you're not even really gonna care and care. It's the end of the world. Am I correct?
Jacob:Oh, yeah, correct. You if you get really high, you could just crank some music. Everybody has like music on their phones or something, right? You could just crank your music and be high. Or you make zone out.
Timothy:See, I I've never done pot and I don't drink alcohol, so you get high enough that you're singing your own tunes kind of thing. I assume that's right there, right?
Jacob:No, you wait, now we're talking about being high, but like uh you know, no, you powered up. Well, but you would totally you wouldn't care. If you were high and drunk enough with like good tunes on, you don't even need the TV.
Timothy:Okay, so what if your pot, well, I guess if you're either all right, you're high on pot, don't you get the munchies? You better have some food, right?
Jacob:Yeah, but he maybe food was fine. Of course, he had a generator, he had a he had the generator going, so he had essentials. Yeah, you could hear it in the background for sure. You could hear a generator in the background. Or he somebody did.
Timothy:You're sharp this morning. It's probably the newscasters had the generator going. But I I could be wrong, but that's a good point. I didn't pick up on it. Anyway, I found it hilarious. It's pretty funny. It's my own fault. I think he's a little bit off target from what Job was trying to communicate.
Jacob:Yes, I think he was.
Timothy:Uh, but that you know, that's okay. Let's play it one more time and move on from the folly of the world into something more serious.
SPEAKER_15:Pretty good, but I'm running out of beer. Which is a problem.
SPEAKER_16:And weed. But that's my own fault. I should have stocked up ahead of time, honestly.
Timothy:You know, he's actually ahead of most of the Christians we're gonna talk about. He at least takes responsibility.
Jacob:And he he was and it is the it's the honest truth. Like in that moment, that's all that matters. He was a hundred percent honest, honestly.
Timothy:Yeah, he was clearly and then going, yeah, but and that's my fault. And you know, uh, when's the last time you actually heard that in church? It's my fault. I messed up. Yeah. All right, so let's talk about the first church of the nine lepers. I assume you know the basic story, right? Yes. And it's actually ten lepers come to Jesus. He heals all ten, but only one comes back and actually thanks Jesus. So let's let's play the clip and listen to the scripture, and then let's talk about how this is really the church of America, the church of the nine lepers.
SPEAKER_00:Luke chapter 17, verses 12 through 19. As he was going into a village, ten men who had leprosy met him. They stood at a distance and called out in a loud voice, Jesus, master, have pity on us. When he saw them, he said, Go, show yourselves to the priests. And as they went, they were cleansed. One of them, when he saw he was healed, came back praising God in a loud voice. He threw himself at Jesus' feet and thanked him, and he was a Samaritan. Jesus asked, Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine? Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner? Then he said to him, Rise and go, your faith has made you well.
Timothy:Okay, Jacob, Mr. Sharp, what do you get out of this?
Jacob:It's a sobering verse because what you get out of this is that you've been trained well.
Timothy:You repeat what I said and you know, but I'm also formulating. No, no, no, wait, I'm not gonna be a good idea. I love it. I love it. It's like yeah, and then you can critique me. Jesus.
Jacob:No, okay, go for it, go for it. Relax, relax, relax. No, but even as this is playing, this is a short clip, very sobering, it means a lot of people are going to hell.
Timothy:Yeah, if you do the percentages, what is one out of ten?
Jacob:That's ten percent. Yes. Keep going. That's staggering. I know, that's why it's sobering, and like it's it's uh it's it's amazing.
Timothy:If we just apply that to the Church of America and you said one out of ten churches, and I'm being generous, there are going to make it to heaven. Yeah. That's that's serious content. That talk about considering when the snow falls, consider that. Keep going.
Jacob:Uh well, that's my bottom line.
Timothy:Okay. First of all, one thing, you know, and that's great stuff. I'm glad you brought that up. Absolutely. That's the whole point. Um, but the first one is they're all receive mercy.
Jacob:Yes.
Timothy:They say, Have pity on us. So he's having mercy on them right up front. We're gonna look at a couple clips, and all of them talk about the mercy of God. That that's one of the predominant things of the Church of the Nine Lepers. They are they all can honestly say, I've been touched by the mercy of God. They all can say that the grace of God touched my life. Yes. Because the grace was the healing. For most people that don't have been not taken or have been taken in by the worldly cultural Christianity, mercy is just what it sounds like. Mercy, you're just forgiven. The grace is the power to live the Christian life. Won't go into details in that. All right, so they both have received mercy and grace. So you couldn't argue with that point. Like if the you bumped into the other nine who did not go back to Jesus, and you go, hey, tell me about this Jesus guy. Oh man, he showed his mercy and he cleansed us and he healed us, and our lives are full of peace, and we can move on. We're back in society now. We can sit and eat with people. We're no longer outcasts, our depression, our sadness, the the crushing depression that we feel. That he took that all away. Could they not say that? Yes, they could. And they could go, the clothes I have no longer have leprosy, and I have God has come in and changed my life. Your life will be totally changed if you go see this Jesus, right? Yep. We're gonna see that everybody says that, but it's the and it's all true. I can't, in most cases, I'm not arguing that point that they haven't received mercy and that grace hasn't touched them, but that they're forgetting just the little fine fear and trembling work out your salvation kind of thing. Now let's go back and read that where the part says, and I'm not sure exactly on the verse, but it says, one of them, when he saw he was healed, came back. There used to be an older version that said one of them, when he saw he was healed, turned around. The implication would be that he's on his way. In fact, it said on his way to see the priests stopped at that point and ran back to Jesus to give thanks. But the current versions don't have that, and I didn't bother to take the time. The other point is that Jesus is saying to the lepers, go to the law, go to the scriptures, go to all the commandments, go give testimony within the church and the temple. I'm not coming to do away with all those kinds of things. But love will circumvent this. That's why this seems to fit m better, that he he went to them and then he came back. So it really does make more sense. And that may be why the translation faded out, because it's more clear to think that he went to the priests, he showed them he's in touch with the law, he's in touch with the commandments, he's in with the word of God, all of that's there. But then it results in something, the only thing that God is after, and that is love. To love Jesus Christ. And it says he threw himself at Jesus. When's the last time you saw people just throw themselves at Jesus? Just they don't get anything out of the deal. Um Um it's beyond just scriptural ink on paper. It's beyond like principles of this, and you do these things and these gimmicks here, and you join this ministry here, and you buy this over here, and we'll see this here in a moment. Hopefully we'll get to it, where there's these all these gimmicks about Jesus or about Christianity, but it's the nine lepers just doing and getting on with their religious life. Because don't you think the other nine appreciated Jesus? Oh yeah. They were well, yeah, they were happy. Yeah. Don't you think they had a, and I'm gonna loot use it loosely, a love for Jesus? It would have been impure, but would they not have had a love and appreciation for him? Yes. So you'll find people all the time excited about Jesus, talking about Jesus, loving Jesus, but people we don't dig deeper into are is it the one leper who actually throws himself? I think of when Jesus says, you lose your life, you throw it down, you give it completely up. And you know, hating your own life, giving up your life, your family, money, time, everything else. That this leper came back to throw himself at the feet of Jesus and to thank him. That's an amazing thing. And of course, a little sub note, and he was a Samaritan, meaning it's always the oddball person you don't expect that's actually in love with Jesus Christ. It's not the little acceptable little, you know, part of the ministry, part of this group, and fitting a certain mold and pattern or whatever. It's always a Samaritan. Somebody how can I you got any words for me on this, Jacob?
Jacob:Um no, other than, yeah, I mean, he was a foreigner, so he was, and not just the foreigner, he was like a well, you know, the Jews hated the Samaritans, right? That's the a separate uh version, the woman at the well. But yeah, an outcast.
Timothy:Outcast, the oddball person, the person that you would view as, whether he not it was or not, but you'd view him as difficult to deal with, uh uncouth kind of thing, uh different. Uh the only thing that brought him together, obviously, was the fact they were in leprosy. In normal life, they would not associate it. So there was a common misery that drew them together. My point being here is we're always looking for molding people that we can bring into a certain formula.
Jacob:Yeah.
Timothy:Before King County prosecutors decided that they needed to close our church, we attracted people that did not fit the mold. They were looking for some power, they were looking for something beyond this normal Christian life that just pulls people in. All right. So Jesus is Jesus goes on, we're not all ten cleansed. Where are the other nine? Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner. So keep your eyes open. It'll be the person that doesn't know anything about the Trinity, doesn't know anything about scripture, doesn't know anything about, in fact, a lot of the times when I'm discipling somebody or talking to them, I bec if they're churchgoers, you gotta undo all the church stuff just to get to Jesus kind of routine. Yeah. And let me, another sub point is consider that all the nine lepers were so busy praising God they couldn't throw themselves at Jesus. The the nine churches or the nine the first church of the nine lepers are all so busy praising God, they don't really, really have time for Jesus. They're not throwing their feet at him. They're not really just indulged and laying down before the word of God and letting the word of God as it is really speak to them by way of the cross. That's why Jesus then goes on to say, and he said to him, Rise and go, your faith has made you well. Interesting statement. Wouldn't you say the other nine were made well?
Jacob:Well, they were healed physically, but we certainly know they were spiritually not where they should be.
Timothy:Correct. So they really weren't healed.
Jacob:No.
Timothy:There's always this kind of within the church of the nine lepers, this they can point to grace, they can point to power, but you look at them and go, You're you're not well. You're you're not healthy. You're gonna die again. You're gonna die spiritually again, you're not on the right road. It's only when we come back, and I know they're gonna say they throw themselves at the feet of Jesus. Well, we'll see here in a moment, where's the respect then for the word of God? Because is not Jesus the living word of God? Yes, he is. And would you not expect that the Samaritan who threw himself at the feet of Jesus would be just eager to obey every scripture that's missed mentioned? Oh, yeah. In fact, he'd probably go overboard and you'd have to tone him down a little bit like Peter. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one sword's enough, you know, okay, that's enough, calm down. But there's always this pushing back, like, no, don't go too far with this whole thing. You don't find that within the Church of Nine Leopards in the American Church, correct?
Jacob:Correct. You know, Luke 17, 12, all these lepers, it says that they stood at a distance. All of the other nine lepers never got close to Jesus. Like that's I I know it's uh like you know what I mean? Like they, yeah, they can claim blessings, they can claim this, they can claim that, they know who Jesus is, but they never even got close to him, right? They never came and actually laid down their life at Jesus' feet because they were all at a distance, and it was the only the one guy that actually came to Jesus.
Timothy:Amen. Excellent point. They were always at a distance to the Word of God. Yeah. Because when we say Word of God, I don't mean ink on paper. I mean the living Jesus, and I know that's what you mean. Correct. Excellent, excellent point. Uh they were still separated from God, even though they had been touched by God. Correct.
Jacob:Well, and they weren't even they weren't even touched physically, right? Because they're at a distance. Jesus blesses them. Great, they get what they want, but they don't actually give their lives to him. They just go on. They just we're out of here.
Timothy:Correct. They'd go find now. Don't think for a moment they didn't become religious. Sure. They went to church. Yeah. They went into the temple.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
Timothy:And so they would now their delusion's even greater. I'm touched by God. I'm blessed by God. I'm even going to church now. I'm even tithing. My I'm so full of peace. You can just hear all the catchphrases. And it's true, it's not like they're deceiving themselves, only in the sense of they're still separated from the their faith has not fully healed their soul deep inside. Go to the book of Jude and very small book, verse 5 there. And Jude writes, and he says, Though you already know this, that's why a lot of times on the podcast, I'll repeat things and we'll go over things over and over again. Because it's just a safeguard. We're real our sinful nature is slow to learn. We're all slow to learn. And knowledge puffs up and we lose it. And you know what? It's easy to be taken in. We'll see here in a moment by all the silliness that goes on. And we're just inundated by a cultural Christianity. Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. But later destroyed those who did not believe. How how popular would a pastor be? You know, you you bring people in, they're they have the full message, meaning they are water baptized, they have the blood of Jesus, they have the Spirit of God, everything, the foundation doctrinally is complete. And the pastor is getting up and reminding them, yeah, just just as a little reminder here, folks, God destroyed later those who did not believe. And by belief, you got to get past the word opinion, and belief means obedience. It means throwing yourself to obey Jesus. That's what that's what the word actually means. Alright, moving forward and going deeper in this, um, what do we want to do? Go ahead and play the passage from Isaiah, because this is really the current Christian culture of Christianity in America.
SPEAKER_00:Isaiah chapter one, verses one through three. The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amaz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Hear, O heavens, listen, O earth, for the Lord has spoken. I reared children and brought them up, but they have rebelled against me. The ox knows his master, the donkey his owner's manger, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.
Timothy:That passage is as live today as it was back then within the church. Let me give you an example. Let's go ahead and play this. This next clip is it's a typical YouTube cultural Christianity where like, oh, this is so amazing. Listen to this pastor call out this congregation. See how tough he is, see how strong he is, right? Play it and let's listen to this emotional nonsense.
SPEAKER_08:Folks, I've had people in this church who are sleeping together out of wedlock tell me, well, my conscience doesn't bother me. That's because it's dead. And let me tell you how bad it's gotten in the church. We've had women in this church get pregnant out of wedlock only to have church members congratulate them. At some point, this preacher can't take it anymore. Why would you congratulate somebody when they're expecting a baby out of wedlock? Well, Pastor, aren't you supposed to be kind and compassionate? Yes. Yes. This is the most compassionate and the kindest church I know of anywhere. That's not what upsets me. It's when people don't have enough spiritual sense to know sin was committed. That was sin. That's nothing to be lauded and lifted up. That ought to be in your prayers. There's trouble in the camp, brother, when the church cannot deserve. When we are more compassionate than we are biblical. I'm not man. I'm pastoring my church. And I'm the one that's gonna stand before my great shepherd one day and give an account for everything I say in this book. We have people commit sin in the choir. We have to ask them to leave. Is that being hard-hearted? No, it's being biblical. Because you're not supposed to stand up and act like you're living right when you're not. And you can't be representing Christ when you're living in sin. At some point, somebody's gotta make a decision. You can't do that here. If you want to go somewhere else and do it, they don't care that's all right. But you can't do it here because I can't let sin in the camp. I can't let the devil get in amongst the cubes. Sin. Lying, stealing, cheating, sin. Loving money is sin. Never being able to be satisfied no matter what you got.
Timothy:Alright, Jacob. Benny, what are your thoughts?
Jacob:Uh I don't know where you're going with this. Uh technically, everything he said is uh true. He's not incorrect.
Timothy:I hear you. It's it's mixed. This the one reason I chose this is because it's mixed. You know, usually people go to the extreme of finding stuff that anybody can say that's bad. Sure. Um remember the passage in Isaiah. It says, I reared children and brought them up, but they rebelled against me. The ox knows his master, the donkey his owner's manager, but Israel does not know. My people do not understand. So there was a lot of calling out of sin, but not calling to action. The closest we got was like if you were in the choir, you got booted out. Yes. So if we played this again, and I'm not going to play it again, that that's why I had mixed feelings about even going here, because it's what's missing is the action. That's the frustrating part. Okay, what? Everybody in the congregation is supposed to say, well, it's sin. Well, okay, what's your point? The closest we got to was, well, they can't be in the choir. And again, I don't know. His church the way he's talking about these people are sitting in the pew. Ah, okay. Re play the scripture. First Corinthians five, eleven thirteen would kind of cure this particular sermon. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:First Corinthians chapter five, verses eight through thirteen. Therefore let us keep the festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth. I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people, not at all, meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother, but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked man from among you.
Timothy:A lot of uh well it used to be more so than now. A lot of preachers preach a tough message, but was there anything about action required or being movement within the church?
Jacob:No, I I think part of the reason why he it seems like a tough message is because the church is so watered down. Like he even said, like, oh, you know, compassionate and people are congratulating that this person has a baby, but like other churches are so watered down that he can point the finger and say, Well, we're not gonna do that. We'll call it sin, and that's why it kind of seems tough because everybody else is even even more watered down than this.
Timothy:Yeah, it's just talk. Correct. I mean, what are these people supposed to do? Okay, so well, what what are they supposed to do? He finishes this sermon, Jacob. What what from what he said, what is the congregation supposed to do?
Jacob:Uh well, he is um I guess he's implying you shouldn't have sex outside of marriage. So in theory, the person would stop doing that.
Timothy:Well, that's the point. He he's not clear on what should be happening.
Jacob:No, it's not clear. Of course, we also didn't listen to the whole sermon, but I'm just that's like Yeah, I I get that. Um But no, this is your typical he's worked up and it's this fiery preacher, but yeah, where's one of the reasons I think that he didn't go there is because the person posting this would have posted that part.
Timothy:Oh, yeah. The part that actually does something if he Okay, let me let me give it what you like it sounded like your church. You wouldn't have heard a sermon like that because what person sleeping out of wedlock or getting pregnant out of wedlock and and somebody commending them and saying congratulations, how how far would that have gone within the church? W which church? Well, Sound Doctrine Church.
Jacob:Oh no, it wouldn't have gone, it wouldn't have gone far at all.
Timothy:Can you imagine? Okay, can you imagine somebody's in the church and somebody because we walked in the light, prosecutor Jason Simmons, which means uh this stuff would have got revealed with love, whatever. But so somebody would have turned somebody, oh congratulations on your new baby. And if nobody knew about it and they weren't married, what do you think? I mean, you'd have a whole congregation of heads turning like, what did you just say? Yes. If he'd have gone on and said, Look, you you could have laid all this out. Now it's the next part that might have been important where he'd have said, Okay, you people that I talked about that weren't calling it sin, I expect to see repentance this week, and you coming before the congregation next week to confess it as sin. Yeah. Those of you that have been sleeping out of wedlock, okay, I I'm expecting to see repentance next week when you come and we'll be making marriage preparations for you, or you will be separating and coming in line with obedience to the word of God. Or we will not eat with you, or you will not be allowed to come into church. There was nothing about like you can't come in here. In fact, he's apologizing. Oh, we're being kind, I'm being gentle, we're the most gentle church. Don't you understand? That statement that your church is the most compassionate loving is just a worldly type definition, and that's why you're having the problem that you're having. Yes. First Corinthians 5.11. Suppose he said, Look, but now I'm writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral. Wow. Talking about a hush over the congregation, because he's only calling out the things that he is particularly offended by or sensitive to or that he's become aware of. No, telling what other sexual immorality from TV, posters on the wall, we go down the line because there's not supposed to be a hint of sexual immorality in the church. Or greedy. He did touch a pile of loving money, but did he, is he going to demand, okay, we want to see how you hate and despise money as the Holy Spirit would lead and direct, as you pick up your cross, as you deny yourself, as you hate your father, your mother, your wife, and your children. Such a man is an idolater, a slander. And he goes, a drunkard or a swindler, you any have any of those things? Are you people swindling the word of God? Are you swindling each other? Are you saying you want to sell this over here, but then you're kind of being deceptive about it? On and on you could go. And scripture is clear. There is a commandment. It's not mentioned in this video, and I don't think that he went there and he didn't say, Well, you know what? You may be any of these things, and if you don't repent of them, we will not even eat with you and don't come in those doors.
Jacob:Definitely didn't say that, nor was that his attitude.
Timothy:Nor was he going that direction. And I can tell you why, because he'd lose his congregation.
Jacob:Yeah.
Timothy:Who would be fired? The congregation or him?
Jacob:Yeah.
Timothy:And then supposed you did have enough of the congregation to stick around to support him and to, you know, pay his bills and those kinds of things, and he continued to preach. You just made yourself, let's say, a third of the congregation your enemy.
SPEAKER_14:Mm-hmm. Yep.
Timothy:And they will go out and they'll sped all kinds of slander. And if they can, hey, prosecutor Jason Simmons and Judge Laurie K. Smith and Beth Andrews, who's busy picking up clams on the beachfront with her husband while an incident man's in prison. You make all these enemies who will spread all kinds of lies that you're mean, you're unloving, you're unkind, and all these things. But of course, the prosecutor's not going to go, well, what did you do? What was the sin that you committed? You get my point, right, Jacob? Yep. The reason they don't go there, and that's what Paul says, those that are trying to make a good impression outwardly do so to keep from being per persecuted. He didn't go, you can preach a tough message. There's a lot of old tough messages, Billy Graham, David Wilkerson, but they never, ever go far enough that anything actually has to be done. It's all tough talk conviction. It's worthless. Yeah. It really is, because it gives you that's why scripture says don't just study the scriptures and so deceive yourself. Bible study in and of itself is a deception. It's the action by the power of the Spirit that brings in the focus of the offensiveness of the cross. If you remove that action part of it, and I don't mean a bunch of rules like, you know, you can't watch channel three or you can't do this or you can't wear that. There's plenty of things that come out that you have to be obedient. To dress modestly involves a lot of things, just for one example. I don't know what this congregation is dressed like. I don't know what the teenagers look like, but if you said, okay, that we're not going to have a dress code here, but when you walk through those doors, it better be modest. You're talking serious problems because what and let's just take a teenage girl, nothing against teenage girls, but they're going through all kinds of emotional things, and you go, Yeah, I want you to dress modestly. You're in for one world of a debate. What's modest, what's not modest, and I don't think this, and then you got 15 other opinions, and then you get a whole congregation potentially grumbling and arguing about what is modest. So what's the solution? The offense of the cross that crucifies everybody's opinions. Anything on all that, Jacob? Nope. Folks, until you hear a pastor put the congregation, his relationship with them on the line, that it will cost him his congregation, his reputation, you're not listening to anything worthwhile. I want to repeat that. You're not listening to anything worthwhile. I've said this before, but every time I go up to preach, I had in my heart, this is the last sermon I will ever get to preach here. I will not, if anybody's listening to this podcast, preach anything that's not in accordance with the truth. And that's That will. That will cost you everything. Everything. In fact, everybody at some point will not like you. And I'm putting that mile. Correct, Jacob? Correct. And only those who press on with the message of the cross will actually fall back in love with you because they now have the love of Jesus Christ. Take that good Samaritan who threw himself at the feet of Jesus. Who do you think he loved and appreciated the most besides Jesus, obviously, and God?
Jacob:Who did well, Jesus and the Lord. You just said though, he appreciated those people. He loved those people.
Timothy:Right. That that's why I excluded them because that's a given. He would fellowship only with other people that love Jesus as much as he did.
Jacob:Correct. In fact, he as the ten lepers are going, I don't know what we're going to call this guy, Samaritan guy. The other nine would be like, where's he going? Who knows what they like said? They could have even been like, dude, come with us. Come with where are you going? Where are you going? And he turned around.
Timothy:Yeah. In fact, he he did first Corinthians. I mean, he's just diss fellowship. He just turned maybe didn't even make a show of it. He just he just separated himself like I'm not hanging with you.
Jacob:Yeah, he just no, yeah. He cut it off. And then, I mean, it was a joyous walk, but it was a lonely walk. He was joyful, but he was, it was, he was by himself going back to Jesus. That was it. There was nobody else.
Timothy:Amen. Another good point, Jacob. Totally by himself, walking the narrow road. You know what? He doesn't even know it. Yeah. He's so he's so busy. Oh, weeping, crying. I I knowing from experience, he you're just you're just crying and grunting. Yeah, you don't have words. The spirit's just kind of pouring out like, man, I'm in love. Who are you? You can't even formulate. You can't say I love you enough. And you're just you're in your spirit and heart, you're just throwing yourself down at Jesus as you move along, going, and I'm unworthy. You start seeing your sin, and then you're throwing yourself down more. That actual physical throwing, he had done that long, many times before he actually got to the feet of Jesus.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
Timothy:Yeah. Welcome to say if the pastor would have said, you know what? Unless I see some godly sorrow repentance, you will be expelled from this church next Sunday. So don't show up. Oh man. Okay, you might be running out of town, right, Jacob?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Timothy:Yeah, yeah, all right. Don't believe me, uh, give King County prosecutors a call or Eatham Claw City Council people. They'll inform it's a fact. It is a fact and a given. All right, let's play the next one. Let's move on. Another church of the nine leopards. Because you got nine lepers here going on, so you got nine different denominations being started here. Um, here's another denomination of the nine. This would be believing yourself, denomination in God, and then it's kind of this quasi love of self at the same time. You're you can have God. Go ahead and play this clip, and you might recognize these two people.
SPEAKER_12:Damn, bro. Nobody could trust anybody.
SPEAKER_13:That's the scary part to me sometimes. The Bible said, Do not put your trust in men. It's pretty specific. Why? Because everybody can be compromised except you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Perfect.
SPEAKER_13:If you don't believe in God, then it's pretty messed up because now you only got you to believe in. But if you got you and God, you can believe in both of those. You can have peace then.
SPEAKER_06:In the shadow.
Timothy:Yep, Jacob, you can have both. You can have both. And I assume is he smoking cigarettes there, or what's he lighting up?
Jacob:Uh, I I think it's a cigarette, yeah. That's a uh a famous short comedian.
Timothy:So it seems pretty clear. Pretty specific. Short of this humor, the cussing, all the, you know, we'll just kind of set all that aside for a moment. Let's go to 2 Timothy chapter 3, verse 1. Because remember, when you believe in God, you can believe also in yourself. Isn't that what he said? That's what he said. Bible's pretty specific on that, correct? Yes. Bible's pretty clear on that, correct? Well, let's look at another passage where the Bible's pretty clear on that, and pretty, pretty direct. Read 2 Timothy chapter 3, verse 1, and the first part of verse 2, Jacob, I'm gonna let you do it because clearly I'm a little tongue-tied.
Jacob:But mark this there will be terrible times in the last days people will be lovers of themselves.
Timothy:Okay. Why would I on any level, Jacob? Believe in myself. Isn't that what he said?
Jacob:Yeah, yeah, yes. He was saying, like, if without God, you know, you ain't got nothing, but then like if it's God and you, though, oh, because he's saying trust in no men, that's what the Bible says. Yes, that's true. But then, like, you can trust, he's literally saying, like, well, you can trust yourself and you can trust God, and that's it. Nobody else, but you and God.
Timothy:You and God, yeah. Trust no man, right? Yes. Well, last time we called, and from looking at the video, he's a man. Correct. Yeah. I'm a man. You're you're a hypocrite to start with. Why trust put your trust in no man? So when I look in the mirror, what's the the only man that I'm probably looking at, right? Myself. Correct. So why would I then turn around and go, but I can trust in myself because I trust in God? Folks, this really is a blasphemous, a really twisting in scripture, a perversion. Play it again because it the ramifications are huge. How many people are following both these people? Again, the other both these guys are famous, but I didn't bother to look up the names. Do you know who their names are?
Jacob:Yeah. The uh the podcaster dude with the long hair is Theo Theo Vaughn, and the other dude is the famous comedian Cat Williams. I think his name is Cat Williams.
Timothy:Yeah, I think you're correct. No relationship to me. No. My last name is Williams. But uh, yeah, play that again and let it just kind of sink in. This is so far off target that both these individuals need to become disciples of Jesus.
SPEAKER_12:Damn, bro. Nobody could trust anybody.
SPEAKER_13:That's the scary part to me sometimes. The Bible said, do not put your trust in men. It's pretty specific. Why? Because everybody can be compromised except you. Yeah. If you don't believe in God, then it's pretty messed up because now you only got you to believe in. But if you got you and God, you can believe in both of those. You can have peace then.
Timothy:I don't even get the one part about everybody be can be compromised but you. Is he being sarcastic there?
Jacob:No, I think uh this is my guess. I didn't I didn't see this podcast, but I they're probably generically talking about how you know everybody else can what, you know, uh take advantage of you and you because he he the other guy was like, Oh, you can't trust nobody. So it's this whole like everybody else is bad except you. And it's probably some, I don't know, the whole world is this self-motivation, believe in yourself, you can do it, right? Like uh, you you you know you're the only you're the only good person.
Timothy:That that's they're literally looking at each other. Think about that. They're looking at each other going, I can't trust you. Yeah, and you can't trust me. Yeah, but you can trust yourself.
Jacob:We can each trust ourselves. Yes, that's like what they're saying. I mean, that's the whole idea, is that you can b- and then he's saying he multi- he repeats it, right? You can believe in both. So you can you can believe in yourself. You can't be compromised. You can be you know, this guy, Cat Williams, also he's done multiple podcasts where like he calls out all these other people and he calls out people in the entertainment industry, right? He calls out all these black guys that compromised, and and he supposedly is uh on the not he not straight and narrow, but he's the only guy that didn't like compromise in Hollywood. He has this whole thing about that.
Timothy:He technically he's the same strong preacher we just looked at. It's just a different arena. There's no difference between what the two said. No, correct. But mark this there will be terrible times in the last days. Oh I'd have to say this is pretty terrible. People will be lovers of themselves. That's that's all he's saying is like, yeah, dude, we can be trust, we can trust ourselves, but we can't trust each other. Wow. That's that's just weird philosophical stuff. Yes. All right. You know, by the way, we're not ever today gonna get close enough to the Girls Gone Bible. So we'll pick that up next time we do this, but I do want to finish these next couple sections. Um, go ahead and play this next one, and you tell me what you think about what she says when she's done.
SPEAKER_14:This guy asked this girl why women cheat, but her answer was amazing.
SPEAKER_04:Why do women cheat?
SPEAKER_10:Oh my gosh, that is the best question that I've heard all day. Why do you think women cheat before I go? Maxie, you I'm asking you. See, that's why we're doing interviews. Okay. I want to know not only why do women cheat, but why do men cheat? And I will tell you why. It's because people are searching for love and they're looking in the wrong places. And actually, I'm here to tell you that only true love is found in Jesus. And no one should cheat on anyone, but the problem is we're all broken and we're all separated from God. But God didn't want that separation, and that's why he sent Jesus to die on the cross for us. And Jesus bridged the gap between you and true love. And you don't have to cheat, no one has to cheat because we have the best love and no one can take it away from us. And so, yeah, if you guys don't have Jesus in your heart, all you have to do is say, Jesus, I ask you to come into my heart, be my Lord, give me this love that I need, make me right, let me know what true love is, and I'm telling you, you'll never be the same. It'll be the best decision of your life. It was for me. That's why I say it. Ten years ago, I was suicidal, I didn't want to live, I didn't have love, I felt cheated of all love, and you know, I found real love, and that's what I'm here to tell you about today.
SPEAKER_14:She's right. We all need Jesus. If you agree, follow for more.
Timothy:Quick thoughts, Jacob.
Jacob:Uh well, I I would uh like a poll for how many women accept uh said the prayer that she just said and then also are still cheating.
Timothy:Yeah, well, the only r the only reason people cheat isn't sensuality, sin, corruption, correct pleasure, whatever it is. It's because we're all looking for love. We're all looking for love. Gee, Lord, I was just looking for love and I couldn't find it anywhere.
Jacob:But we know even from the last pastor that's saying uh people are okay, because in in the last that the the other clip with the guy in the pastor, right? I'm sure if you if he says, Who in here is saved, who in here believes in Jesus, who here asked them in their heart, everybody in the congregation together raise their hand, including the people that he is supposedly calling out that are sleeping with, you know, out of wedlock. So clearly, lady, this this lady, uh, it doesn't quite work like that.
Timothy:Well, and you bring up a really good point. At the end of the day, I don't know for sure about that pastor, but the odds are nine out of nine out of one that he's gonna say, Well, they're all saved. I'm not questioning your salvation. Correct. Yeah. There's a this you can't lose yourself. Clearly, there was no thought of hell, judgment, sin, all this stuff. I was suicidal. There's no talk about self-pity, and you know, those there's no no concept of sin here at all.
Jacob:Oh, yeah. So at the very best, she is one of the nine lepers. She had all these problems in life. Jesus heals her, and so she's and just like we were talking about earlier, like, oh, there she goes to church and she does all these things, and she can claim that Jesus saved her from suicide, but correct.
Timothy:It it's and it sounds so lovely. It's oh, I'm looking for love and I'm looking for this. And it's like the heart is deceitful above all things. So when our heart says, I'm just looking for love, or I'm just looking for my soul, whatever it's it's deceit. And if you look at history, it's full of people who believe what their own hearts are telling them. In my heart, I was just doing this, and it's all lies because our heart lies. That's why we walk in the lie, pick up Christ. Well, that's why the gospel is. One thing's for sure. Well, let's just stripping the fact that we know other scriptures, right? Okay. Who wouldn't go for this?
Jacob:Well, yeah, exactly. But that's the thing. We are I already know that she's wrong, and we already know that it doesn't work. That's why I I was like, there's there's no way it's like that simple. Like who who even even on look you don't even like somebody who you're not a Christian, you're like, really? That's all you that's all you have to do. That's it.
Timothy:Well, see, you're being disobedient. I told you to skip all that aside.
Jacob:Okay.
Timothy:It's it's tough to do, but I mean you really have to be that's why the scripture in I think it was Isaiah, my people don't know. The the the donkey knows is you know where he lives and what he's supposed to do. My people do not understand that. What we're seeing here is a complete ignorance at best, just a complete ignorance about what Jesus is about. It's the nine lepers are just stupid and ignorant in their grace and mercy. Let's go to Acts chapter 14, verse 21, because there's no Okay, again, why wouldn't you go for this? I mean, we're all looking for love. Would you are you looking for love? Yes, we'd all say yes. I won't put you on the spot. Um we're all looking for meaning. We're all looking, you'll never be the same. You'll be blessed. The whole message is, and aren't the other nine, that is, the vast majority of people could turn and say, Oh, you don't have to go throw your feet at Jesus because clearly we are blessed. We were healed just like he was, and God sees my heart and knows that I really love him. Couldn't they that's an easy deception to walk in because you've got so many facts lining up what you're saying. The only problem is the facts don't fit what the reality is in your heart. Correct. All right, Acts 14 21. There is no mention of this good news. Acts 14 21, Jacob, go ahead and read verse 21.
Jacob:They preached the good news in that city and won a large number of disciples. Then they returned to Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch.
Timothy:Okay, so they verse 21 says they preached the good news and they won a large number of disciples, not believers, that's a sub point. Okay, so it's all good news, right? Every everything uh that we're talking about on this podcast is good news. It's man, it is good news to kick out the slanders, the sexual immorality. If they don't if you're coming to church and you don't want to repent, I don't want you there. You don't want to be there, and God doesn't want you there, and just be honest and move on. All right. So now they're gonna go back and revisit all the other places and churches they established, right? They're gonna return to Lystra and Iconium and Antioch, right? So they're they're traveling through, correct? Yes. Now the sign in each of those things saying, Come here, Paul, or come hear these people preach, or Peter or whatever, be strengthened in your faith, be made strong, come be blessed, right? That that would be the promotion, correct? Correct. Only that's not what they preached. Read Acts chapter 14, verse 22, Jacob.
Jacob:Strengthening the disciples and encouraging them that to remain true to the faith, we must grow through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God, they said.
Timothy:Oh, kind of doesn't fit the billboard, does it?
Jacob:No, and this is a quote. It is like these are the words they said. You know what I mean? It's in the quotation.
Timothy:It's got the quotations. Bible's pretty clear on that, isn't it? Yes, it is. Verse 22, strengthening the disciples. Now, what are they being strengthened in? Not their repeat of praise God, hallelujah, we were healed, we were made well. And I'm not demeaning that, I'm actually strengthening it, strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to what? Remain true to the faith. That one passage alone does away with once saved, always saved. And certainly even among those who don't believe once saved, always saved, act like they do, encouraging them to remain true to the faith. Who wants that kind of pastor? I mean, who wants to invite that kind of preacher that's going to come in and remind you that you could lose everything, everything, including your salvation in Jesus Christ? Uh, not popular. Not popular. In fact, I can pretty much tell you zero invitation. Strength of disciples and encourage them to remain true of the faith. Yeah, we're going to invite somebody that's going to be critical, that's going to come in and remind us that we have to remain true to the message of the cross. Not only that, did you ever hear from the lips of this girl that we must go through many, highlighting many hardships to enter the kingdom of God?
Jacob:No, there was zero hardships.
Timothy:Zero. Bless, happiness, healing, leprosy gone. Everything disappears. Hunky dory, good to go. Sign me up, going to heaven the whole bit. You'll never be the change. You'll never be the same. You won't regret it. Goodness sake. Jesus told Peter at the end of his life when he's going to die that someone will lead him where he does not want to go. So that means in our whole Christian walk, we're going to go in directions. It's like, well, you know, my flesh, meaning doesn't want to go. My spirit does. Or, you know, I got to deny myself. Remember those old words? Deny yourself, pick up your cross. It says we must go through many. It doesn't say a hardship. It doesn't say the hardships like the world. People get sick all the time. People go to hospitals all the time. People have car wrecks, financial problems. You go down the whole list. We're talking about many hardships in relationship to the kingdom of God. And that can be many hardships in terms of the heart. It doesn't have to always be physical. You're losing this, although that. Anybody looking at the United States and what's going on in the world would have to be a fool to say the possibility of me going through hardships and losing everything isn't going to happen in my lifetime. That's all you better be up there in the age group that's almost about to die before you can buy that kind of logic. Correct. We must go through, must, must, underline, highlight. Bible's pretty clear on that, isn't it, Jacob? We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God. Well, what happened to the salvation message, Pastor? What happened to I accepted Jesus Christ my personal Lord and Savior, or I got baptized with my personal Lord and Jesus Christ Savior. I keep him right here in my pocket. And this is, oh, this is powerful. I'm not hearing anybody go, oh, this is powerful stuff. Seems pretty clear. We're going to be living that. Look, if you had to give up your pod, that's a hardship. If you have to give up your beer, that certainly is a hardship. And that's just the start, folks. That's not up to preaching the gospel next door to your neighbors or being ran out of town or being slandered or losing your reputation and nobody loving you or liking and having to go alone and leave the other nine lepers behind. Just like the nine leopards could have been your family, your friends, or whatever, but if you're fully in love with Jesus Christ, that they become irrelevant. It's not me saying, well, look, you need to hate your family or you need to hate your own life. I mean, Jesus did say all that, but why does he have to say that? Because we're not in love with him. Not like we should be. He has to say that to us in hope that we actually give it all up so we fall in love. Did this Samaritan have to be told leave your family, leave whatever life you want to go get, leave your friends and people you've known, your companions in suffering? No. No. Did he have to leave, oh I gotta write a book, start a ministry, and have all these things going on? No. No. He he just, in all the humility we talked about and all the love that we discussed, just threw himself at the feet of Jesus. We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God, they said. It's a must. We're gonna have to stop here, Jacob. We will pick up on and cover all our other points in the next podcast. And I want to pause here because we're gonna dig a little bit deep into the Girls Gone Bible next time. Uh you do well to listen to this to be prepared for what we're gonna look at when we go there, because it's another whole deep level of corruption that's happening within the cultural Christianity around the world.
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