The Consider Podcast
The Consider Podcast
Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness
Ecclesiastes 7:25
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Hosts: Timothy and Jacob
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What if the marks Jesus loves most aren’t polished optics but sun-darkened skin, tired hands, and a life spent in the vineyard? We wrestle with a bracing question: have we traded obedience for image, turning ministry into performance and marriage into a curated storyline? Starting with Song of Solomon’s “dark yet lovely” bride, we contrast the raw look of labor with modern Christian messaging that often prizes platforms, polish, and comfort.
From there, we press into the ache of singleness and the allure of “future spouse” prayers that put us in the driver’s seat. 1 Corinthians 7 confronts us with freedom most of us don’t want: do not look for a spouse, and if married, live with undivided devotion to the Lord. That doesn’t diminish love; it purifies it. When Christ leads first, service to a spouse stops being appeasement and becomes obedience. We set that beside Acts 14:22—many hardships to enter the kingdom—and 2 Corinthians 12:10—power made perfect in weakness—to challenge upbeat spiritual branding that sidesteps the cross.
David’s life becomes a reality check for romanticized ideals. Courage and worship sit alongside grave sin, severe discipline, and messy fallout. If we pray for a “David,” are we prepared for the weight that comes with real leadership and real repentance? We argue for a sober vision of marriage and ministry that expects pressure, embraces humility, and finds strength in surrender. Along the way, we preview a contentious practice drawn from 1 Corinthians 11—a visible “sign of authority” in worship—not as nostalgia but as a confession of spiritual order aimed at deflating pride.
This is not a call to cynicism; it’s a call back to the field. Put away the spotlight. Pick up the cross. Seek the joy that grows in weakness, the freedom of not looking, and the courage to love through hardship. If this conversation stirred you, share it with a friend, subscribe for more, and leave a review with the Scripture that challenged you most.
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Setting The Stakes
SPEAKER_04So many good words yet so little time. So many profound thoughts of God. But alas, the days are evil. Today, let us finally consider Girls Gun Bible and Blaze Media's podcast. Headed up by women. All of this and much more with your hosts, Timothy and Jacob, on the Consider Podcast, where we learn to shut up before speaking up.
SPEAKER_03Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.
TimothyHow's it going, Jacob? How's it going today, Jacob? Is what I meant to say. It's going good. As they say down south, there ain't no way we're going to get to everything today. Is that what they say? Yep. Okay. I always start off, you know me, I'll go, yeah, I don't know what to talk about. I don't know what to say. And then by the time it's done, you know, I have more than enough that uh to cover the time and so many topics. Yep. This one is a little tough because it's like a lead balloon. You know, you can feel it fill it with helium and all kinds of stuff, but it it's not gonna fly. It's not gonna go anywhere. And we have so much because the church just is so slow.
What Does Jesus Look For
TimothyUh what we're looking at, if it were obeyed and live, would completely transform the Christian church as we know it. I mean, that that's not an exaggeration. That's exactly what would happen. But we're gonna dive in and then we're gonna keep going at this and then see where the Lord leads from here. But a question for you, Mr. Jacob.
SPEAKER_08Okay.
TimothyWhen Jesus looks for a bride, because he's looking for a bride, um, if you read the book of Song of Solomon, it's really about the relationship between Christ's bride, which is the church, and Jesus Christ. So what does he look for? What is Jesus looking for? You know, when a man goes out, he's got an idea about, yeah, this is my ideal woman, uh, this is what I think she should look like, or this is what I'm after. Women do the same thing, but right now we're just kind of talking about men. What do you think Jesus looks for?
JacobUm also is this like a slight trap? Because in the intro it said something about like learning to shut up and listen, or or listening before you speak, or something like that. Well that was in the intro.
TimothyAre you are you implying that I'm setting a trap on these podcasts? That that doesn't sound like me.
JacobI don't know what kind of worrying. The question may be a trap for me. I don't I don't I don't know what the um but I will answer that. I'll I'll take a stab at it, I guess.
TimothySure, go for it. By the way, it has nothing to do with the intro. We just do learn, hopefully, to shut up before we speak up. That's more just a confession about me and Jesus taking care of my tongue as as I grow older. Yes. Anyway, so I'm not talking personality here. I'm talking what what does Jesus look for in terms of looks?
JacobWhat were you gonna say? I was gonna say he's looking for purity.
TimothyThat's not well, yes, he's looking for purity, but that's not outward look. Well, out I'm talking about outward look.
JacobOutward looks.
TimothyYeah, like a you know, I'm not saying you personally or anybody else, but some guys may want a redhead or a blonde or whatever. Sure. I'm I'm purely talking outward, uh, nothing noble about you know personality and and how they conduct themselves. I mean, uh I don't know. It used to be guys would answer that way, but uh okay. The first thing what's he looking for? What what what's the outward adornment? What what kind of thing is Jesus looking for? The dress, the continent uh continence is almost a behavior. You get my point.
JacobUm I don't think Jesus is looking at a bunch of the an outward look.
TimothyOh, wrong, oh, turkey breath. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's a trap, or is that just a safe way of getting out of the uh answering the question?
JacobWell, I I I I don't know where you're going, so yeah.
TimothyYeah, okay. Uh you've learned to try and outmaneuver me a little bit. Well, you know, Jesus is known by his scars. Even in the book of Revelation, when you look at Jesus, you can recognize him if he as if you couldn't. But he's gonna have the marks and the scars and the things. There's an outward type thing that says, well, that's Jesus Christ. Yes. Um so it's not really a trap. It's just more of our ignorance as a church goes on, and and since we no longer have a church, I'm not able to really preach on these things. What what is it that outwardly Jesus might look for?
JacobUh well, see, we even know that Jesus was like not an attractive man to begin with. That's why I I think he's not concerned about looks as as if you're using the analogy of like, oh, what yeah, like what men are interested in or whatever. I don't think it's like that at all.
TimothyAre you answering this way because you're married and you know this is the safe position? It's not where the wife goes, well, you know, what do I look like? Or what does this dress look like? The the avoidance factor gets pretty rich.
JacobBut it is true that, right, Isaiah, he was uh we were not attracted to Jesus on physical look, so I'm still I'm still sticking with the he's not he's well that doesn't mean I don't know what we're supposed to look like necessarily, but he's not attracted as the world would be attracted.
TimothyAll right, uh we got to press on all your platitudes and stuff are essentially correct. Let's play the file and let's talk about what Jesus is looking for.
Song Of Solomon And Outward Marks
SPEAKER_02Do not look at me, says the woman, who is Jesus in love with? For whom does Jesus look upon with longing? Where do the passions of the living God reside? Song of Solomon chapter one, verses three through six. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes, your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you, take me away with you, let us hurry, let the king bring me into his chambers. Friends, we rejoice and delight in you. We will praise your love more than wine. Beloved, how right they are to adore you. Dark am I, yet lovely, O daughters of Jerusalem, dark like the tents of Kadar, like the tent curtains of Solomon. Do not stare at me because I am dark, because I am darkened by the sun. My mother's sons were angry with me and made me take care of the vineyards, my own vineyard I have neglected. Let all godly men rise up and bless the following ideal of a woman, for such women is whom the Lord Almighty draws after him. From the book, 1 Peter chapter 3, verse 3, your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. The Consider Podcast, examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.
TimothyOkay, do you want to rephrase your answer?
JacobUm no, not necessarily. Although apparently, well, darken and worn.
TimothyOut in the open, in the fields, laboring in the vineyard, dirty, no time for makeup. Busy at home would be the way that I put this. Song of Solomon 16 says, Do not stare at me because I am dark. Because I am darkened by the sun. My mother's sons were angry with me and made me take care of the vineyards. My own vineyard have I neglected. There's a lot to play in here, but what's going on is that she's involved heavily in the labor in this world. There isn't time to put on the makeup and the long nails and to paint this and to do that because she's busy in the field, and she's busy in the field because the world, or your brothers, because our we're all technically brothers and sisters in a worldly kind of way. We're related, made her work in the vineyards, made her conform to what they wanted to do. So they're, I'm gonna I hate to use the word abusive because it's so overplayed, but they're abusive in nature, making her work, keeping her from taking care of herself. And this is who Jesus is wooing. This is who Jesus is moving toward. He's looking for women that are working in the fields, working in the home, that are busy and full of labor. They're not coming all d decked up. Am I making sense? Am I getting there? Yep. She had to neglect herself, it says, her own vineyard, in order to continue the work and do what those around her wanted done. That's who Jesus is looking for. So what we're talking about now and going to be moving into is women in leadership. But let us first focus in that this is what God is looking for. And you contrast that as we eventually will get there as to what these women look like, what they're preaching, and what they're declaring. It is not Song of Solomon. Is there an amen to that? Or all right. Go ahead and play this next clip. And this is just a little bit of a taste of where we're going and the result of what the church has done by focusing in on the family, meaning putting women in the workplace, making them step outside of how God actually designed them. And when I say designed, you can technically look at a woman and tell what she's designed for. She's not designed for flying fighter jets, she's not designed emotionally to be judges or to be police. There's there's hundreds of videos out there where women are trying to take down a captive, right? And everybody's just laughing because you can have two or three women trying to take him and arrest him, and it takes a man to come in and take the situation down so that the person can be arrested. Women have stepped out of way, way out of what God designed them for, and they're certainly disobedient
From Fields To Leadership Debates
Timothyand rebellious as to how God wants them to look and to behave within the church, and that's what we're talking about. But play this clip because it's really heartbreaking to watch. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_09Why? Why did we do that?
SPEAKER_04I am so tired.
SPEAKER_01I want to just put my feet up. Like I am, oh my god. Funny how women stress about work when they're the ones who wanted to work in the first place, and they wouldn't actually have stress about work if they would have just listened to men and stayed home in the first place.
TimothyGot wrenching to to watch. And this is not like out of the norm. More and more women are waking up to, you know, not having children, not having marriage, divorce from remarriage, and so on and so forth. Or now they're divorced and single and so on, and they're being left alone because they bought the lie both that Satan brought in and the lie that the church, the Christian church, the cultural Christian church, has preached and promoted, and they've stepped out of that. And so what we're finding is there's a lot of quote Christian women ministries doing podcasts and stuff. But what it is, it's really an attempt to avoid working in the field, having skin that's darkened by the sun, by laboring for Jesus Christ. Because I mean, a podcast is hard work in putting it together, but you're not mopping floors, you're not cleaning toilets, you're not helping raise children, it's not down earthy, kind of in the vineyard bringing fruit for Jesus Christ. It's talk, is all that it is, an attempt to be comfortable and to point to oneself. But we'll get more into that in a moment. Any comments on any of that, Jacob? Nope. Go ahead. Again, the pain is very, very real. And that's this is why judgment begins with the house of God, because it's the church that's brought this about. The woman that's kind of commenting, I think she's being a little rough. In other words, the lie is strong. I mean, we expect the world to come out and say feminism's great, women need to do this, women need to go to work. But you see the same thing within the church. For for a woman to actually step back and be obedient to scripture, they would really have to fight against the church, not just against feminism. And that's what we're going to look at eventually as we get through there. But let's go ahead and play this scripture. Let's go to Isaiah chapter 3, verse 8, and let's listen to what God says. And the situation that we now find ourselves in as Christian men, go for it, Jacob.
SPEAKER_02Isaiah chapter 3, verses 8 through 13. Jerusalem staggers. Judah is falling. Their words and deeds are against the Lord, defying his glorious presence. The look on their faces testifies against them. They parade their sin like Sodom. They do not hide it. Woe to them, they have brought disaster upon themselves. Tell the righteous it will be well with them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds. Woe to the wicked, disaster is upon them, they will be paid back for what their hands have done. Youths oppress my people. Women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray. They turn you from the path. The Lord takes his place in court, he rises to judge the people.
TimothyNotice Jacob there in Isaiah chapter three. It says, Youths oppress my people. Do we not see that
Work, Weariness, And Feminism’s Cost
Timothygoing on everywhere? Verse 12 there.
JacobYeah, we do.
TimothyRead that again and take your time and read it slowly so that people can really let it sink in. This is a situation that we're in.
JacobYouths oppress my people. Women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray. They turn you from the path.
TimothyIt's obvious that we are oppressed by young people more and more. In fact, in the city of Enum Claw, there was a teenage girl that assaulted a grown man. I mean, he had a bump on his head. You were telling me about it, right, Jacob? Yeah. And the police said, Oh, well, she didn't do anything, you know, drastic enough to be arrested. I'm thinking, well, typical city of Enum Claw police, if they can't make up the charges and groom people for accusations, they won't do anything. But in this particular case, he has the bruise on his head.
JacobWell, they arrested her. It was the King County, the King County like booking rules for juveniles.
TimothyOh, I thought it was the police chief that said she uh didn't rise up to the standard.
JacobShe didn't meet the criteria to book her into jail. It's a king county clause in King County. That's what he said. The book, so they arrested her, they take her down to the station, but they released her to the parents because the King County booking rules she didn't apply, so they didn't hold her.
TimothyWell, I don't have time to look into it. I don't believe for a moment that police chief is reading those rules correctly. And anybody else, they play games anyway. If it were you and I, we'd be locked up for three days to process paperwork. They'd find a way to keep you in jail. Yeah. Anyway, you suppress my people. Women rule over them. When you look at the Trump administration, and again, I'm not totally against the Trump administration. I'm just stating that this is how it is. Women rule over them. There's meetings that go on and prayer meetings, and we're going to look at that stuff in more and more detail. But it's very, very clear you with women are completely like in charge pretty much of everything anymore, and that everybody's woman of the year, and this person's woman of the year. I mean, Judge Laurie K. Smith was woman of the year, what, three times over? Just Beth Andrews was judge woman of the year. And the injustice that these two people pour out is just huge. We are oppressed by women judges because they're in positions for which they should not be in. That's why I said there's no way I can get to all of this right now. And you keep listening to the podcast because we'll probably be three or four into this thing looking at the facts and the evidence of what I'm saying here. Anything else, Jacob? Oh my people, your guides lead you astray. They turn you from the path. Well, we're looking at the path. We're looking at what the narrow road is and what women should walk and what men should also obey. And keep in mind, this is gonna sound like I being negative. Well, first of all, Jacob, let me let me back up. Why does Satan shout so loud that women should be outside the home? It's not the Lord that's shouting that. You got to work at it to get to that, but it's the feminism, it's this, it's that, woman of the year, all he just shouts at left and right. You would think by looking in the actions of Satan that we could figure out, well, hey, maybe we're on the wrong course because he's not gonna shout, hey, you need to be righteous, or hey, you need to be holy, unless he can twist and pervert that. Am I correct on that? Correct. All right, well, the Lord takes his place in court, it says in Isaiah 3. He rises to judge the people. This is coming. Make no mistake about it. This cultural Christianity and these women that are in leadership positions, God will rise to judge them. This is not a joke. This is not some theological debate. It's not some discussion. Listen, I've I'm old enough now, I saw this process take place. Christianity Today, the magazine and
Isaiah 3: Youths And Women Ruling
Timothythe website, they were massively responsible for promoting the idea that women should be preachers. And now we've gone from that to where we're at today. All right, well, we're gonna talk about a podcast. Uh, it's through Blaze Media, and it's about praying for the man that you never met for being married, because these women were praying, like, Lord, you know, this is my husband, or this is my future husband. I haven't met him yet. Um, they weren't even engaged at the time, as far as I know. So they prayed to find a husband. Making sense so far? Yes. Okay, well, I'm gonna jump the gun here just a little bit so that we we have an idea here from God. This is what a godly prayer that a woman would pray if she were spirit-filled, if she was in accordance with scripture. And the reason I'm doing this is because everything that we're gonna look at after this prayer by this Blaze Media podcast is the opposite of what's being prayed here. And now I typed up the prayer and I put it together and I have it read, and every aspect of this prayer is based upon Scripture. So here's the foundational thing of what any woman who's looking for to be married, and by the way, that is the calling of women. I'm gonna tell you a woman can't be single, but the first calling of a woman is to be married and to have children. In fact, Paul writes to Timothy that women will be saved through childbearing. So not only does a woman need to be baptized, become a disciple of Jesus Christ, but the home and raising children is to secure her salvation in Jesus Christ. Yeah, you heard me say that right. To secure her salvation in Jesus Christ, a woman needs to be busy at home raising children, and I'll get into the fine details of this in a moment. Any comments or questions before we play the prayer, Jacob? No. Okay, here's the godly prayer that should be prayered. It should be printed out, passed out, put on the wall, given to every woman who's at home, every daughter that's growing up, every prayer meeting, Bible study, not podcasts, not anything else. I'm talking like home base type Bible studies. Go ahead and play it.
SPEAKER_00Godly prayer, future husband. The following prayer is based solely on scriptures, and if a woman is truly a disciple of Jesus, the Holy Spirit will give this prayer the blessings of the abundant life. Now let us pray. Lord, I confess my sin of lusting for a ministry or career, and pray that you will prepare me to be busy at home, to trust you, Lord, with our daily needs, so that I might be busy at home. I know that I am being saved through childbearing, but if I cannot give birth to children, may I be so filled with your love that I love the mothers of faith children just the same, helping them to be busy at home. I pray to always be content in your will, O Lord, even if my womb is closed. I weep, O Lord, for the abandoned children of this age. I confess the sin of the church that has enabled Christian women to each pursue a self-centered course, using your name in vain by seeking many a self-blessing. I pray, O Lord, for my future husband, that I may be content in you as he lives as though we were not married. I pray that, like the quietness of the Holy Spirit, I may fully be my husband's helpmate, to count him as my ministry, serving and blessing only his labor for thee, to selflessly lay down my life with your rich and powerful love. Help me, O mighty God, to call my husband master from the heart, as Sarah. Sarah did for Abraham, like her to remain silent about my husband's repeated faults, so that you might refine him, instead of me nagging and dripping. Lord, like Sarah, I pray now to not be afraid of the many hardships we will have to pass through as you lead my husband into the sufferings of Christ. Finally, Lord, I acknowledge you are my only husband, and that to please my earthly husband, my brother in Jesus, I must surrender all and daily pick up my cross to do your will with an undivided heart. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Holy Ghost. Amen. The Consider Podcast. Examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.
TimothyI have to fully admit that was r read by AI. Because there's no way. I'd still be searching for a woman willing to read that and put that out there. I would literally I'm literally taking my life in my own hands by repeating that prayer. So we'll dig into this some more. Let's talk about the Blaze Media. Go ahead and play this. This is, and you'll contrast that with the prayer we have, and that's why I don't want to get too many words here, because listen to the difference of the prayer and to what these women are saying.
SPEAKER_02Blaze Media Podcast Ali Beth Stuckey and Christian Bevere. Single and feeling directionless, Podcaster bought a Bible for a man she'd never met, and it changed her life forever. Today's dating landscape leaves a lot of Christian singles feeling isolated, lonely, and hopeless. Dating apps have replaced organic meetings, casual texting has supplanted face-to-face conversation, and commitment has been demonized by the culture as restrictive and archaic. So what's a single Christian man or woman to do? That's the question Ali Beth Stuckey and fellow podcaster and author Christian Bevere dove into on a special Valentine's Day episode of Relatable. After graduating college, Bevere found herself in the same situation many young Christian men and women find themselves in today, deeply desiring marriage but feeling directionless. The church, she says, wasn't very helpful, often watering down dating advice to find someone that's cute and loves Jesus. So Bevere, just twenty-one years old at the time, took dating matters into her own hands. What she did changed her life. I just got a Bible, a brown leather Bible on Amazon, and I said, This is going to be a Bible for my future
The “Future Husband” Prayer Critiqued
SPEAKER_02husband. I'm going to pray for him daily. She tells Allie. While many people pray for their future spouses, Bevere took it a step further by infusing her prayers with Scripture. I'd go to Timothy, I'd go to Psalms, and I'd look at how Titus or David and these men of God were walking with the Lord, the attributes they carried, and I'd start praying those over my future husband, she says. I really started to war for him and intercede for this person I hadn't met yet.
TimothyOkay, there is so much here. Every line is wrong, every line falls short of scripture, even though it talks about scripture and all kinds of things. Any quick comments before I try to dive into this mud pit and bring out something worthwhile? No, go ahead. Okay, well, the first thing's kind of superficial. Today's dating landscape leaves a lot of Christian singles feeling isolated, lonely, and hopeless. Really? So you're trying the problem there, just stop right there. Then that's the problem of the church. I mean, if if you're single and in a church and you're feeling listen to her words, isolated, lonely, and look at that, hopeless. That's a condition of the church. So what she does is now what we find here, instead of her picking up a cross, hating her own life, walking the narrow road, and waiting upon God to bring the husband that he has in mind, you'll see where she says, I just got a Bible. I said, This is the Bible. I'm going to pray for him daily. I'd go to Timothy, I'd go to the Psalms, I'd look at how Titus or David or these men of God are walking, blah, blah, blah. And what's the common denominator? I, I, I, I. She's leading herself. She's feeling lonely. She's feeling hopeless. Look, scripture is very clear. We don't have time to look at it today, but Paul will say that a woman will, you know, desert her first love, which is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is your husband. So if you're feeling lonely in Jesus Christ, if you're feeling hopeless in Jesus Christ because he is your husband, guess what? You're not in a relationship with Jesus Christ. So everything is taken into her hands. I mean, I love the hypocrisy of the church, she says, wasn't very helpful. Often watering down dating advice. Okay, this is not just watered down, this is completely off course, wrong direction, nowhere to go, and we'll see that here in a moment. All right, so she starts praying for a future husband. Now, let me say this kind of up front. This is a muddled mess, and I'm gonna muddle around a little bit. Don't marry a woman like this. Because what what they are doing is they're romanticizing the gospel. Instead of being busy about the work of Jesus Christ, they've fantasized and brought together this romance novel of what a Christian man should look like and what he should be and do. Am I correct in this? It's like uh she goes on to say, my you're for a guy let me back up. Today, Beverend's platform is dedicated to empowering Christian women, especially singles, to discover their identity in Christ, to pray boldly and intentionally for their future or current marriage, heal from the past hurts, and shame through God's redemption, prepare their hearts for godly relationships and trust God fully for their love story. What? What is that word? Yeah, that is a mouthful. That's what she's dedicated to. This is one reason why God said a woman should learn in silence. This is way too much talk. By the way, that's a list. Man. Play the the second we'll play the audio with us, Jacob. It'll say uh, I think part two of Blaze there. Play that because it finishes this whole topic.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Two years later, on her wedding day, Bavere presented this special annotated Bible to her husband. In the days following their marriage, Bever's husband Arden read through the dated prayers and letters she had written to him. He would look through and he'd say, You were praying for me on this date. I was going through such a struggle of a season at that time, she reminisces. When our prayers are spirit-led, they're scripture-based, there's so much power that we won't even know, maybe
Contesting Romanticized Piety
SPEAKER_02not even Earthside, but it's so poignant and powerful. Today, Bevere's platform is dedicated to empowering Christian women, especially singles, to discover their identity in Christ, pray boldly and intentionally for their future or current marriage, heal from past hurts and shame through God's redemption, prepare their hearts for godly relationships, and trust God fully with their love story. Check her out on her Dear Future Husband podcast, or through her books Break Up With What Broke You and Future Husband Present Prayers. Want more from Allie Beth Stuckey? To enjoy more of Allie's upbeat and in-depth coverage of culture, news, and theology from a Christian, conservative perspective, subscribe to Blaze TV, the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution, and live the American dream.
TimothyGod bless America, let's all stand up, raise the flag. We end with the foolishness of looking for not a country in heaven, but America, apple pie, and marriage, right? So this whole thing is as worldly as it can get with that little blessing that God's on our side. Same thing every country says. Okay. Quote. He would look through and he'd say, You were praying for me on this date? I was going through such a struggle of a season at that time, she reminisces. Really? Jacob, who isn't going through struggles? Everybody. Everybody. And just for a season? Well, I'm glad your life got all happy duty put together. Uh, let's go to Acts chapter 14, verse 21, Jacob, and let's just remind her of something. A season at that time? Oh, I was, and I believe this is the guy saying this, right? You were praying for me.
JacobThe guy, what yeah, who who's wearing the pants, man? She is running the show. Like more than you know, and he's like, Oh, like she's in charge. She's the one that did all this stuff. And then after they're married, he's like, Oh my goodness, you were praying for me. You're so amazing.
TimothyThere's no mention of her being, Lord, make me worthy of a husband. No, I confess my sins to you. I lay in brokenness in the dust. I'm out here in the vineyard laboring. My skin is growing dark. I have to neglect my own vineyard, my own life in order just to do these things in the world. But I'm looking to you, Lord, and break me and humble me and break me. She's assuming she's worthy, and it's the husband that needs prayed for. Correct. Yeah. I mean, it's the typical worldly women that they think they're entitled. They think, oh, what do you bring to the table? You so often hear on these podcasts. They go, Well, it's me. It's my femininity. It's who I am. Yeah. Okay, dude, you're not being a man. Yeah. You're not a man seeking God by any means. You're trying to live up to this woman's romanticized idea of what a husband should be and look like. And we're going to see that here in a moment. You were praying for me on the date. Oh, I'm so blessed. I'm so that you were praying. Oh, whatever, and then you're out picking the kind of girly man that you want to marry. Now, this guy may be buff. He may be able to beat me up, but the point is he's bowing down to her. There's not leadership here, and I'll show this here in a moment. I was going through such a struggle of a season at that time. Everybody is going through struggles. We live in a sinful world. If you're escaping and you're all that happy-duty kind of happy thing, you are in denial about what's going on in your life
Acts 14: Many Hardships
Timothyand where your soul is. But let's just say that, okay, for a season you were going through a tough time. Well, guess what? You became a Christian because she prayed for you, right? Well, Jacob, you go ahead and read Acts 14, 21 through 22. Well, guess what's ahead? A happy marriage, couple kids, two cars, a career, success. She comes home, she got her makeup on, she got her nails done. She's having somebody else do the house. She's doing a ministry podcast. Everything's kind of put together. It's all upbeat. It's always a beat. It's always happy. Well, let's just contrast this with the good news gospel as recorded in the Bible that we're not going to water down.
JacobRead Acts chapter 14, verses 21 and 22, Jacob. They preached the good news in that city and won a large number of disciples. Then they returned to Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch, strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God, they said. What did they say?
TimothyWhat was the encouragement? What was the up beat message, Jacob? What was the happy message? The what whatever? What's your powerful message? The empowering woman, the preparing our hearts to pray boldly, to intentionally go into the future with our current marriage or our marriage that is coming, our just to discover our identity in Christ. What was the message they shared in relationship to that message, Jacob? They would go through many hardships. Many hardships to enter the kingdom of God. Yeah. In order to be saved, in order for to make your calling and election sure, to make sure that you enter through the gates, that you're accepted by Jesus Christ, that when he looks at you and he falls in love with you, he can see the dirt. He can see the fingernails are ruined. He can see the harshness of the skin. He can see that you were worn out in the vineyard of the Lord, even while those around you were opposing you and making you work in a field that you didn't want to be into. We must underline it, highlight it. It's good news. We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God, they said. That's that they consider that to be encouraging. Uh does what do you think, Jacob? You think this podcast considers that to be encouraging? Uh her podcast? Yes.
JacobYes, no, I don't think the other ladies uh they are not interested in Acts 14 22.
TimothyAgain, well, if I I don't, she kind of told him this after they were married, right? That that was my impression.
JacobYeah, no, that's what it said. It said that she gave him the Bible, and then he's going through it, and he's like, Oh my goodness.
TimothyWell, too late for divorce at that point. You are stuck with that kind of look. If you if you meet a woman that's been listening to this podcast, I whatever. Run, run away. Look for somebody that's in the field, busy at home, prepared to stay at home, to give up her life, to give up her calling, to give up her identity, to lay down her life in Jesus Christ in humility and in brokenness. Amen. Amen. All right, let me give some direct advice, some very biblical advice, not watered down, very upbeat, very freedom in nature. Go to 1 Corinthians chapter 7, Jacob. 1 Corinthians chapter 7, verse 27. If you're single, single man, because I'm sure she's covered this in her podcast, these women, right? I don't think how can you be sure of that? You you don't think this is a covered part of what they're saying? Uh probably not. All right, 1 Corinthians 7 verse 27. Jacob, go ahead and read the first part. They would agree with the first part. Go ahead. Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Ah, but here comes the second one. Listen up, single men. Listen up, young men. If you are unmarried, here this is direct. This is solid. It comes from the Lord. It's on ink on paper. The Holy Spirit declares it. Read it, Jacob. Read this freedom. Good news. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. Don't look. Don't look for a wife. That is is that considered the freedom in Jesus Christ these days, Jacob? No. Men walking around, single men in Jesus Christ, not looking for
1 Corinthians 7 And Not Looking
Timothya wife. You know, I've been single for I don't know what now, 13, 15 years, something like that, Jacob. Yep, yep. The freedom is not to look. The freedom is to be totally devoted to what God would have me do. Now, that could involve marriage in the future. Don't know. But I'm not looking. He will tell me, he will work it. People, I don't have time to get into today. People might go, well, then how would you know a couple ever come together? Believe me, it gets worked out in the Holy Spirit. But you have to first start with, do not look for a wife. All right. Now we know that uh let's see, what are these two women's names I always keep? Beverly's platform. And what was the first name? Do you remember Jacob? Uh no. All right, Blaze Media, that's okay, it's not important. They all preach, they all preach the same thing. Even the Bible girls were gonna get turned around. Nobody's saying anything any different. Let's see if they're also preaching this. Go to the book of First Corinthians, chapter seven. And we're gonna start in verse twenty-nine through thirty-five.
SPEAKER_02A godly marriage. First, attention, men, if you are single, pick up your cross. Follow the Holy Spirit, then obey this scripture. First Corinthians chapter seven, verse twenty-seven. Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. The book, 1 Corinthians 7, verses 29 through 35. What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on, those who have wives should live as if they had none, those who mourn as if they did not, those who are happy as if they were not, those who buy something as if it were not theirs to keep, those who use the things of the world as if not engrossed in them, for this world in its present form is passing away. I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs, how he can please the Lord, but a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world, how he can please his wife, and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs. Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world, how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
TimothyJacob, you notice anything unusual about that graphic? I mean, I have to admit, some of this stuff's AI done, but you notice anything unusual about the graphic? Um pull that back up there if you can.
JacobUnusual? Oh, it's the same guy. It looks like the same guy. Yeah, but the women are different. Go ahead. Huh? Yeah, the women are different looking, but the guy looks pretty toot and close to the same. Slightly different color hair, actually. The shade of hair is different.
TimothyYeah, but they all have the same chin and the same smile and the whole bit. It reminds me of the cookie cutter Christianity that's going on. It actually fits pretty well, but I laugh like, okay, all the guys are the same, but there's a variety of women. That is kind of funny, huh? They have their hands in their pockets, you know. Okay, whatever. All right. So you mean to tell me the blaze media and Bible girls are praying first Corinthians chapter seven. Let's just read the first part of it. What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. Okay, we all we all agree, right, that this applies to today, right? Isn't that the time is short? Yeah. I mean, if it was short with Paul, it's shorter now, right? Correct. All right. So Paul is saying, since the time is short, which is okay, like I just said, it's now it's even shorter. From now on, from from this day forward, when Paul wrote this, from now on, those who have wives should live as if they had none. So you mean to tell me the Blaze Media Podcast and Bible girls are teaching and praying for a husband that will pay no attention to them? No, they're not. That's not that's not even in women's character in the way that they were made since the fall in the garden. And again, I'm not gonna have time to go into why this is a blessing and why this is good. I'll be able to hint at it. But there is no way these ministries are saying, okay, ladies, put your hands on the TV, lift your hands in the air, let's pray a biblical prayer, let's be spirit-filled, spirit-led, and let's get the scriptures out. Lord, send us a godly man who will live as if we were not in the house. No. No, are you sure? I'm sure. I've never heard that ever prayed in the church, at least by women for sure. Well, and I don't know that I prayed in the church. I taught it. Then most people live it. Nah, I kind of doubt it. Those who have wives should live. This isn't talk. This isn't ideology, this isn't theology, this isn't apple pie American, you know, uh United States Constitution loving kind of thing. This is those who have wives, those who are married, should get up in the morning and live as if they did not have a wife. Try that for fun. You're in bed, you get up, and the wife turns and says, Good morning, or whatever your wife does, and you go, What? Who are you? What do you what are you doing? Excuse me. I haven't talked to the Lord yet. Go away, get out of my life, stay away. Oh, you're not here, you're not there. I'm going to the prayer closet. I'm getting my quiet time. And in my quiet time, I'm going to say, Lord, the woman wants this, and I want to please her in this way, and I want this and all that. And God's going to whisper in his ear and he's going to say to him, Look, as you pick up your cross, as you deny yourself, as you hate your own life, I want you to live and obey me as if you didn't have a wife. That's what they're praying. That's what they're living, and that's what they're doing, Jacob. No. Oh, and I and all these women, the Blaze people and the Bible people and all the other women ministries, right? They are totally devoted on the Lord, right? They're just seeking the Lord, correct? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay, well, let's just keep reading. Let's go on down. I think it's where he goes on to say, I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affair, how he can please the Lord. So every man that is unmarried can devote himself fully. Well, God, what do you want me to do this hour? But I know I was married, I think, for 38 years. That is a
Undivided Devotion Over Domestic Demands
Timothygoal. That is a carry-cross situation that is being focused in on, Lord, what do you want me to do? No matter what the wife says, no matter what the wife wants, no matter what the demands of the day are. Oh, you you want me to push the stroller down with the baby and go down the sidewalk, and you want me to go over here, and you want me to do laundry, and you want me to do dishes over here, and you want me to go do this over here. Oh, that's what you want, woman. Well, that's what a godly man does, because a godly man serves and a godly man does this. Oh, let me vacuum too, and let me do this for you. Anything else I can get, oh, I'll provide for you and I'll do this, right? What, what, what, what? Doesn't all go down the line, right? Now, I am not saying that you'll never push a baby carriage, and I'm not saying that you won't do dishes, and I'm not saying, but it won't be because your wife wants it to be done. And it won't be in the timing of what your wife once done. It will be irrelevant as to the desires of your wife. This is what these women are praying for? No. This is the true godly man, godly relationship, Lord, send me a husband that pays no attention to what I want. I I'm laughing. Like these women if I were in a church, I'd be stoned right now. I probably wouldn't get much further, correct? I'm not being certainly invited to marriage seminars to preach the good news, right? This is all is this not upbeat? Is it not a beat to be free to get up in the morning and say, okay, Lord, what do you want done? And you're not motive by motivated by anything.
JacobIt is freeing.
TimothyNot not whether you go to work, not whether you go over here, not whether you meet any needs, not whether you do anything. You are just totally focused in on the Lord, and He will tell you go to work, or He'll tell you not to go to work, or to leave work, or to vacuum, or to not vacuum. It's the Lord and only the Lord you listen to. See, the problem with this is a godly man may be led of the Lord to vacuum, do dishes, whatever. I don't know, whatever the wife wants, you know, fold the towels a certain way, help make the bed. I don't know what it is. But she's not going to like the concept, the surrender that says, Well, woman, I'm not doing it because you want me to do it. I'm doing it because Jesus Christ told me to love you in this way. So it isn't women in the Garden of Eden became as God. They want to be obeyed. They want to be to say what to do, to control what's around them. And this frees the woman from her sinful nature to allow God to crucify it. It frees man to totally focus on the Lord because there's going to be, look, the workers are few, and the odds are if you're actually busy with the Lord's work, he's not necessarily going to say, help make the bed, do the laundry. We're co-partners in this thing. Look, sometimes the Lord has to have a man just sitting out under a tree doing nothing but meditating upon him, and you may think he's playing, and you think he may think he's checking out, and he's not being the husband you want to be. But God is dealing with that man, and that's where the power of your submission comes in. You are being called at that time to mop the floor, take care of the kids, do the diapers, whatever it is that women are supposed to do at being busy at home. This is a completely freeing thing once your flesh has been crucified and you're walking the narrow road. For anybody else, these women that want the ministry to be noticed, to look pretty, with all these kinds of things that are going on, this is a message they will reject, have rejected, and are rebelling fully against the Lord. Your leaders lead you astray, Isaiah said. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world, how he can please his wife. A man becomes worldly by asking one simple question How can I please my wife? Paul goes on to say, an unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs. Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world. That's why you see it's about the Constitution, about the United States, about living in this world, about having your love story, history worked out in this world. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world. She becomes worldly. How she can please her husband. Now, people are going to whine and complain, like, well, how do you live this? What do you do? I don't have time to tell you to do that. You just go surrender to the Lord, hate your own life, give up your life, surrender it all. He will work it. Again, Paul goes on to say, I'm saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord. Amen and triple amen to that. Both individuals in a marriage need to get up and in their heart and in their as they bend their knees. This is not infusing scripture into your life. This is surrender, working your salvation out with fear and trembling in the prayer closet and tuning out, crucifying, putting to death any thought of pleasing your partner. Then, and only then, let me say that again. Only then can God communicate his will and what should be done. And it's out of that that we serve one another, love one another, because it's his love and his service, but it is God in everything. Loving the Lord your God. Remember that commandment, folks? With all your heart, all your mind, all your soul, and all your strength. Correct? Correct. All right, but women are supposed to discover being empowering, right? Yes. Women empowerment. Well, let's go to 2 Corinthians chapter 12, verse 10, and
Power Through Weakness, Not Platforms
Timothylet's look at some empowerment. And how does a woman become empowered? And for that matter, I'm including the men. How does a man get empowered, this strength, this power, this glory, this aura that, oh, everything's upbeat, and it's life and it's good, and I'm seeking God, and I'm in a relationship with him and listen to the podcast if you want to be built up and lift it up, right? How do we do that?
JacobHow do we do that?
TimothySecond Corinthians chapter 12, verse 10 gives us the key, gives us the secret, tells us how it's done. And surely they're talking about this. Surely they're discussing this, not that they should be doing the podcast, but at home with other women and so on and forth, and people that are married and helping mothers take care of their kids and so on and forth. This is how we become empowered people. Second Corinthians chapter 12, verse 10. That is why Paul says, For Christ's sake, I delight. Oh, highlight it, underline it, put it on your t-shirts. I don't really care. Let the Holy Spirit put it in your heart, is the best thing. Read it over and over if you want to. I delight. What does he delight in? Does he delight in empowerment? Does he delight in freeing himself from past hurts? Does he delight in getting away from troubles? Does he delight in being having his partner prayed for every day with this brown leather bio that I got from Amazon? Does he delight in those things? No. Okay, Jacob, I know you're with me on this now. What does Paul delight in?
JacobHe delights in weaknesses.
TimothyOh, he delights in weaknesses. So when a woman is praying for a godly man, she is praying, Lord, send me a man that you will weaken. That you will break. Put me in a marriage where things are difficult. Put me in a marriage where there are insults, hardships, and persecutions and in difficulties. Is that what they were praying, Jacob?
JacobDefinitely not.
TimothyThat is why 2 Corinthians 12 10 says, For Christ's sake, you see, wantness for the romance's sake, for this dream of what it means to be in a godly marriage, this fantasy land. That is why, for Christ's sake, because we're fully seeking Jesus, I delight in weaknesses, I delight in insults, I delight in hardships, I delight in persecutions, and I delight in difficulties, for when I am weak, then I am strong. So that's what she's praying for. That's the kind of marriage. No. All right, then let's just press on a little bit further. 2 Corinthians 1, 8, Jacob says, we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the providence of Asia. So let's talk about a little bit of what the word hardship means in Jesus Christ. Not a season of turmoil, not a not a season of frustration, you know, a season that passes and kind of go through some stuff. And then we're on the flip side. We were under great pressure, Paul says. Great pressure. Far, far beyond our ability to endure. She wants to be part of a marriage with a man that is seeking God and only God and doing God's will that he is put under hard pressure, great pressure, beyond his ability to endure, so that we despair it even of life. That's what she's praying for. No. She's praying for a man that, let's say, he, you know, he was in a small town, he's preaching the gospel, he has a church, it's very hard work. They had, you know, they had a Bible book store, they had a ministry downtown, they had a ministry over preaching the gospel, they gave away free things. They were literally laying down their life for this town. And then all of a sudden, that town exploded because of the righteousness and holiness there. And with under great pressure, falsely accused by King County prosecutors, somebody falsely accused put forth, the town went ballistic, a hate crime was involved, the corrupt police, you know, called Detective Grant McCall and the current police chief, allowed the pressure to build and build far beyond our ability to endure this. This while the man's husband the man's wife was dying of a brain tumor at the exact same time, being ran out of town so that he despaired even of life, feeling the sentence of death. The business was destroyed, his life was destroyed, his marriage was destroyed, the church was destroyed, his all everything he owned was taken and destroyed, completely crushed. People abandoned, people fleeing, more and more pressure putting on, ran out of town. Nothing was left, and you felt a sentence of death because all of these things died, including his wife, who died at the same time of a brain tumor. This is what she's praying for. This is what she wants to belong to, right, right, Jacob? No. She's praying, Lord, send me a husband. I am praying for him that he will stand firm as he feels the sentence of death. Lord, I will never betray this man. I will never leave this man. I will stand by his side. We will suffer together in Jesus Christ
David’s Flaws And False Ideals
Timothybecause these are the needs of Jesus Christ. We will feel the sentence of death. But this happened, see, here's the rejoicing part. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves, but on God who raises the dead. You think that's what uh she meant when you're supposed to check out her book called Dear Future Husband?
JacobNo, I don't think so. Or through her books Break Up With What Broke You? No, I don't think so either.
TimothyWell, what about the book, Future Husband Present Prayers Book?
JacobOh, no, I don't think it's in that book either. I haven't read these books, but I'm pretty confident that this is in.
TimothyAnd I'm just touching the surface. I mean, I wish we had time more for that. Okay, so that's why they end with to enjoy more of Allie's upbeat. Oh, yeah. And in-depth coverage of culture, news, and theology from a Christian conservative perspective, prescribed to Blaze TV, the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution and live the American dream. Woo! Oh, I'm gonna tune in, demote my money, and participate. You think the I bet after this they're gonna be enlightened and invite me, right, Jacob? They're gonna invite me to be on there, right?
JacobI also think they probably will not.
TimothyAll right, that's probably a safe bet. You still got strength? You got time for us to keep going, Jacob? Yeah. Because we got a lot, again, I won't get to it all, but I want to go more. So she went to the book of Titus, right? And we'll cover that in a moment. And she went to the book of Timothy, right? Now there were of course no mention of 2 Corinthians and the other things we're looking for, but she mentioned David. She wants a man like David after God's own heart, right? Yeah. Okay. So let's do that. Let's do that. All right, so David was king, right? Yes, he was. Okay, woman. Let me explain something to you. If you get a godly man who is like David, he will be king of the household. Yeah, is there submission you think in that level?
JacobYes, there is.
TimothyUh, he yeah, he never survived. She's prayed. She's got it all down, she's got books about it. She's underlined and highlighted the proper verses in the Bible. She's presenting to him, she's essentially saying to him, You will live this. This is what I'm praying, this is what I'm after. It has to be in my timing and according to what my idea is of what you should be. But then she goes, I want you to be like David, you know, a man after God's own heart. Okay. Well, David was king, so the mistakes that David made and the sins that David made are the mistakes of a king. Let me explain what I'm saying about that. Is that if a man is truly in leadership and he is king of the household, that means he is responsible. He is leading with authority, he's protecting, he's laying all those things that we know that love is, he's doing in the household as he follows the living God. So he's going to be doing a lot of things, stepping out in faith, correct? I mean, raising children is an act of faith. We do what we think is best, we we seek and we try to grow. And all I've said it a thousand times. I can never change fast enough. There was a tremendous amount of pressure of the cross trying to get me to change, but I kept moving, kept persevering, kept preaching, kept doing these things, kept giving away things, kept being obedient to scripture. And let us just say that my wife was not always up to speed with what King Timothy was doing in the household. And then when I make mistakes, I'm the good servant who's actually out doing the work. I'm not the lazy one that's going, well, I knew you were a harsh tax or harsh taskmaster, so I hid my coin. This is King David. Is King David acting and doing and worshiping and obeying? And he's all he's stumbling, he's making mistakes. He actually sins in big time ways, doesn't he? Yeah. David spent years of being disciplined by God.
JacobYeah, years on the run. He was on the run a lot.
TimothyOn the run, he was tested by enemies constantly, he's fighting wars constantly, correct? In other words, he's taking care of business. So let's just, if it's King David in the household and he's taking care of business, he's being disciplined by God, he's being tested by enemies around him. He's leading the household into many hardships by following Jesus Christ. There really isn't much time for the wife.
JacobCorrect.
TimothyBecause he's busy. I'm not telling there is, and I can't tell you. I can't tell you that your marriage will be six hours a day, three hours a day, three hours a week. I was in a position where I was pretty much home 24-7 interacting. So each marriage is different. Some they may not see their husbands. Besides, let me let me kind of bottom line this. So the podcast people that are praying for their godly man like David, because she went to David, so she wants to marry a felon. Did not David commit murder?
JacobYes, he did.
TimothyDid not David conspire to
Modern Law And David’s Sins
Timothycommit murder?
JacobYes, he did.
TimothyDid David not commit adultery?
JacobYes, he did.
TimothyDid not David, aside even from adultery, have m several other wives? Concubines?
JacobYeah.
TimothyAlright, so she is she praying to marry a felon? A murderer?
JacobNo, I don't think so.
TimothyUh a murderer that's in jail, say, locked out for 20 years, and and David was on the run, and his sons grew up to rebel against him, or at least some of the sons grew up to rebel against him, sleeping with his concubines. So this woman is praying, Lord, I want a David in my life, for there'll be some children that grow up that will rebel against you and say and do the most vile things against the family. That that's what she's praying?
JacobI don't think so. That's not what she's wanting, anyways.
TimothyWell, why not? I thought we delighted in hardships. I thought we delighted in a godly man. Uh that's not what she wants, though. And that's not what most women want. They're not even being taught that. Yeah. The hidden joy that's in all of this escapes them. Now there's talk of submission, and there's, you know, the word salad talk of submission, but the real power, the offense of the cross and all that, and I'm not gonna have time to discover that today, is not discussed because it's offensive. It is offensive to our flesh. It's offensive to say, can you see me doing a marriage right now, a wedding? And I go, Do you promise not to pay any attention to this woman? I do, says the man. And I turn to the woman. Do you promise not to give any attention or to well let me rephrase that because let me rephrase it? To not think about how to please your husband and husband, do you or you promise not to think about how to please your wife? Do you promise to do those things? And they both would say, Oh yeah, sure, I do, no problem, right?
JacobUh I no, I don't think that's in most people's vows.
TimothyExactly. Um and so I haven't been invited to do any weddings. Well, I did a little AI thing on David's crimes, as if he were being punished under today's laws. It's a little bit long, but it kind of proves my point. This is who you're praying for, is David, because David counted the fighting men. David committed the sins there. Uh it says in scripture that he followed the Lord and everything, but with Bathsheba, but he still made a lot of mistakes, and there was a lot of consequences there. Um, and eventually he married Bathsheba, and that's where we got the lineage from Jesus. So the woman is praying for a David husband that she will either die or get out of the picture, or I don't by the picture, the only way really is by death, and marry another woman who will be a blessing. That that that's what she's praying.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
TimothyThat she'll endure all the adultery or the things that went on, die, and she stands before God in glory because she was faithful and quiet and full submission. And he marries finally a godly woman that he can receive and bless, and from that Jesus Christ is glorified. She's also praying that, I assume? No. All right, as you can see, I'm kind of sidetracked. Go ahead and read or go ahead and play this particular file, Jacob, that will list the sins and crimes of David that will be punished by today's legal standards.
SPEAKER_02Here are the current laws as of February 2026, primarily in the United States, that would most closely relate to King David's recorded sins in the Bible, presented in bullet points. Adultery with Bathsheba remains a crime in approximately sixteen states plus Puerto Rico. Prosecutions are extremely rare and often viewed as outdated. Felony in Michigan, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin, potential imprisonments. Up to several years, fines. Misdemeanor in states, including Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, and others. Fines, short jail time possible. For military personnel, punishable under Uniform Code of Military Justice, UCMJ, Article 134, Extramarital Sexual Conduct. If prejudicial
Accepting Imperfect Kingship
SPEAKER_02to good order, dollar discipline or service discrediting, maximum penalties include up to one-year confinement, dishonorable discharge, and forfeiture of pay sloss or allowances, actively enforced in some cases. Murder of Uriah via conspiracy, solicitation, and arranging death in battle. First-degree premeditated murder, federal, 18 U.S.C. Second 1011, and state laws. Penalties include life imprisonment or death penalty. Conspiracy to commit murder, federal, e.g. 18 U.S.C. SAC 111 or 4371, and state equivalents, up to life imprisonment if overt act occurs. Solicitation to commit murder, federal, 18 U.S.C.R. 373, and state laws, punishable by up to 20 plus years or life, even if murder not completed. Aiding, abetting, or accomplice liability, treating David as principal for ordering using intermediaries, e.g., the Joab, full liability as if he committed the act. Related, abuse of power, official misconduct, deprivation of rights under color of law, if government, military context, or obstruction of justice for cover-ups. Taking the census, improper numbering of fighting men, interpreted as pride, self-reliance, census laws, Title 13 U.S.C. Focus on participation, subconfidentiality. Refusal or false answers can lead to fines, up to 500. Improper conduct could fall under false statements to government. 18 U.S.C. Sesame 301. Fraud or official misconduct, abuse of authority, if coercive or fraudulent. Broader parallels, ethics violations, or abuse of executive power for personal gain, civil, administrative, not typically criminal. David's most severe sins, adultery plus murder conspiracy, would face severe modern penalties, life imprisonment, death for murder-related charges, while adultery is limited.
TimothyQuote, let me quote her. I'd go to Timothy, I'd go to the Psalms, and I'd look at how Titus or David and these men of God were walking with the Lord, the attributes they carried, and I'd start praying those over my future husband, she says. So she's praying over her future husband to be like David and his attributes.
JacobWell, not those attributes.
TimothyHe was a man after God's own heart, did he? And you bring up my next point. This isn't to ridicule David. This isn't to demean the fact that he was a man after God's own heart. What this is to point out is that men are flawed. That your husband makes mistakes. And this romanticize type thing, or this praying over a man so that his mistakes are under her control or under her watch or with intolerable limits is sin. David is king committed some huge errors. When I look back on the 38 years I was married, you can be sure that I am thoroughly convicted of ways that I failed or could have done better. Don't worry, King County courts and prosecutors, it was nothing you would be interested in. You have to make it up as you did make it up in order to destroy and run us out of town. But coming back around, the mistakes were huge. Deep conviction. There's been over, like I said, is it 13 years, Jacob? Do you know how long it's been?
JacobA solid 13 years. I think it's yeah, 13-14.
Timothy13 years. And there's a and I'm single, and so there's a lot of quiet moments. And in those quiet moments, and we're talking 24-7, because there's no other noise around. I live by myself, and it's just me and the Lord. You can be sure there are those, man, they're twinges, they're there are kicks, there's a little bit of the breath taken away. There's a reminding of this, and you could have been better here. And there is the sufferings of Jesus Christ that demonstrates and shows me why Jesus had to die for me. Now he also encourages and strengthens me. He carries me in my loneliness because I get lonely, but not lonely to the point that I'm praying and looking for life. Just lonely, and he helps me carry it. So all of that is in balance. But the mistakes that I made were bigger mistakes than the average husband because I was busy seeking the Lord. That makes sense, Jacob? Mm-hmm. So this isn't to demean David and who he is. What I am saying is that he had eight wives. And an additional unnamed wives. He had at least ten concubines and a bunch more unnamed concubines. He had 19 sons and one daughter. I found that interesting. I was looking up the information. Nineteen sons but one daughter. Put your point on, I'm not sure. Plus other concubines and so on and so forth. The point is there's faults, there are deep faults. He's in battle, he's fighting, he's straight, he acts crazy before certain people. Um at other times he's on the run and being disciplined, as we already talked about. But even under his best moments, he's engaged in a wrestling match. It's kind of sloppy if you look at it, right, Jacob?
JacobCorrect.
TimothyIt's not it's not this movie David where you know handsome and he slays Goliath. And that's pretty much it. I mean, uh okay, Bathsheba's talked about because you can work that into a movie script. But when you if you read and look at David and what his attributes are going through, it's all over the place. It is a sloppy, messy situation. And you're trying to tell me this woman is praying for him, she should be praying for herself to accept a truly godly man. Well, we are thoroughly out of time. We will get eventually, Lord willing, to the Bible girls and pick this up. There's a lot more. We've got to go to the book of Timothy, we've got to go to the book of Titus, and we'll look at Psalms and all these things. Have I thoroughly covered this, Jacob? Have I made it absolutely clear about what's going on? Anything I need to clarify calmly in another way?
JacobI don't think so.
TimothyAll right, one of the things that we're leading up to, and I mentioned this in the beginning,
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Timothyis that if the church did this one thing for these reasons, and that is if the women started wearing a sign of authority in church and at home and when they pray and so on and so forth, it would completely transform, humble these women, and put them in a position where God might actually bless them. And so what I'm really leading up to is tack on at the end of this podcast that track that discusses what the sign of authority is that a woman should have and why, because we're going to cover that in detail in the future. And for those individuals that might want to look at it ahead of time and wrestle through that issue because we'll eventually get there, I just want to mention that that file is there, which will make this way too long to even begin to try and cover today. Anything you want to say? Nope. Take us out of here, Jacob.
SPEAKER_05Introduction to the sign of authority. For this reason and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. First Corinthians chapter eleven verse ten. This document offers a thoughtful exploration of first Corinthians chapter eleven, verse ten, focusing on the idea that women are called to wear a physical sign of authority, understood as a covering, when participating in worship. Rather than presenting this as an outdated cultural practice, the text frames it as a meaningful and enduring expression of spiritual order, rooted in the relationship between God, Christ, man, and woman. It gently emphasizes that this practice reflects a divine design established from creation, where man is seen as the head of woman, and both are under the headship of Christ. The document carefully distinguishes between long hair, which is described as a natural symbol of a woman's glory and submission, and the specific requirement of a covering during prayer and worship services. It suggests that while long hair is a gift from God, as a covering for everyday life away from worship, that long hair does not fulfill the scriptural instruction for a visible sign during sacred gatherings. This distinction is presented not as a legalistic rule, but as a way for women to visibly honor God's intended order and to acknowledge spiritual realities, including the presence of angels. Drawing from early Christian practice, the text expresses concern that modern churches have moved away from this tradition, sometimes due to pride or cultural pressure. It encourages a return to this practice, not as a burden, but as an act of humble obedience and reverence. Ultimately, the covering is portrayed as a quiet, personal testimony of faith and submission carrying deep spiritual significance for both the individual and the community of believers. Sign of authority. Do you recall a time when women wore hats to church? Well, that tradition came from Scripture. Indeed, in the first Christian churches, the women wore a covering on their heads. However, as the church watered down the gospel and sought to please the sin in men rather than calling them to repentance, this command died out. Paul wrote to the Corinthian church about how they should conduct themselves during worship. Starting in 1 Corinthians chapter 11, going all the way to chapter 14, Paul talks about a few matters including the Lord's Supper, spiritual gifts, unity, love, and the need to remain strong in the faith. While no church would say that we don't need to love one another or that we shouldn't take the Lord's Supper, most say that women do not need to wear a sign of authority or a covering during church services. As we would expect with Christ, though, no command can be ignored except at great peril to our spiritual safety and salvation. God made it clear through Paul's letter that a woman must wear a sign of authority during a worship service. The woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. Not cultural. Now, we know what you are thinking. Everyone immediately thinks this is a cultural command. You may even have been taught that Paul wrote the command because he was addressing some local social problem. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. Let's look at what Paul wrote a little more closely and in context, starting with what he wrote before this command. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. Paul declares that a woman should wear a sign of authority because of the angels. The angels were not some local problem. Every true church in Jesus has angels helping, watching, and serving over it. In fact, none of the reasons Paul lists, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, had anything to do with the culture of the time. Indeed, a woman must wear a sign of authority because of the way God made the universe. Let's look at the main reasons why a woman should wear a sign of authority. Christ is above every man. No one would say this is a cultural statement, but a simple fact regarding how God arranged not only the universe, but the heavens themselves, and, just as Christ is above every man, so God declared that man is the head over woman. Unless you want to say that God is not the head of Christ, you cannot say that women should not wear coverings. Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians chapter 11, verse 3. If that were not enough, Paul gives another irrefutable fact. Woman came from man. When God made Eve, the first woman, he did so by taking some of Adam. Again, this is no cultural matter, but a fundamental truth of creation. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Woman was created for man. Paul strikes at the heart of why both women and men do not want a woman to wear a sign of authority. God did not make woman to live her life fulfilling her dreams, ambitions, and desires, but to help man fulfill his. God made the woman to be man's helpmate. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. Long hair People often claim the Bible tells us that long hair is the covering, another classic excuse for not wearing a sign of authority. This is simply not the case, though. Paul actually wrote of long hair as being one more proof that a woman should wear a sign of authority. God gave woman long hair at creation. It is the original covering he created her with, and therefore a sign of authority is not needed outside the church. Long hair, and of course, every Christian woman should have long hair, acts as a covering for her daily life. After the fall and the cross, however, God requires women to wear a sign of authority demonstrating to the angels and others that men are back in their true position of headship in the church. Judge for yourselves. It is proper for a man to pray to God with her head uncovered. Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory, for long hair is given to her as a covering. So people now say, See, long hair is a covering, yet Paul used every argument he could to show that a sign of authority is needed in church. For example, if I wanted to prove that the earth is round, I might point out that the moon is also round, showing the natural state of things. However, that doesn't mean the earth is the same size, or is full of craters like the moon. Paul pointed to woman's original covering to support his point that she now needs another covering, a sign of authority in the church. He used one fact to prove another fact. Finally, we know that hair is not the covering because of first Corinthians chapter eleven verse five, and every woman who prays or prophesizes, with her head uncovered dishonors her head. It is just as though her head were shaved. Obviously, Paul is referring to the lack of another covering in saying it is just as though her head were shaved, for in saying as though her head were shaved, he makes the point that in reality her head is not shaved. Again, if this were not true, the passage would make no sense. Paul would have said something illogical like every woman who prays or prophesizes with a bald head, it is just as though her head were shaved. Such a sentence would not be the work of a sane man, but a madman. We know these women had hair on their heads because of verse six. Paul says that if a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off, but if the woman has no hair on her head, how can it be cut off? If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off, and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. Also, if hair truly is the covering, then every man must pray with his head covered. This is why the Jewish Yamaka is sin in God's sight. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. Whatever you might think about this topic, when a woman prays with her head uncovered, she dishonors Jesus Christ and the men in her church. She dishonors her head. Remember, Christ is the head of man and man the head of woman. Therefore, godly men and Christ become one head over women. Indeed, a woman's head is certainly Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ has said that if she prays with her head uncovered, he is dishonored. A sign Let us remember that we are talking about a sign of authority, something out of the ordinary that demonstrates to all, even angels, that women are in submission to men. Young's literal Greek translation puts it this way. Because of this the woman ought to have a token of authority upon the head, because of the messengers. The word token provides a perfect definition for this passage. It means something serving as an indication, a proof, or an expression of something else, a sign. The sign of authority is proof or an expression of what lies in the heart. Non Christian women in the world often have long hair, but for reasons of vanity, not godliness. This is why God requires a second covering during worship. Remember what we saw earlier. God made man and woman with their natural hair length, short for man, long for woman, as a symbol of their inward spirituality and submission to his design. When we fell, so did those symbols in our acceptance of his plans. When a woman returns to the Lord, she returns to symbolize her joyful submission to God. It represents that she once again accepts the authority of men as God first established. A sign of authority should not cover a woman's face, because we have a greater covenant than Moses. He had to cover his face because the radiance of the old covenant faded away. In other words, none of us have to cover our faces because, as part of the new covenant, we have freedom through Christ to seek the face of God. And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3, verse 18. For a woman, the sign of authority means that she is in submission to the men in the church, that she understands a woman must not teach or have authority over a man. That she should be silent in the churches, and when she does speak in church, it is only with permission from the male leaders. In fact, it is the covering that gives a woman an opportunity to pray, fellowship, and speak. A sign of authority is not some fluffy, cute command that women obey to receive blessings. Because of woman's sin in the Garden of Eden, God requires Christian women today to wear a sign of authority. This is the offensive message of the cross, and to wear a covering for any other reason is total sin. Certainly, it is a joy for women who wear it in faith as part of the crucified life, but only for those who truly admit their sinfulness and surrender to this loving discipline from God. No other practice. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice, nor do the churches of God. In every New Testament church, except for the one in Corinth, the women wore coverings. It didn't matter if it was Rome, Spain, Athens, Israel, Colossae, Philippi, Ephesus, or any other culture, all Christian women wore a sign of authority. Only the Corinthian church became puffed up in pride and rebelled. As Paul stated, all the churches of God practiced these things. Simply there was no other practice. This was Paul's final proof. Therefore, all contention or objection to obeying what he wrote about this issue should be totally silenced. Yet many today say Paul meant that there was no practice of coverings in these other churches. What pure foolishness? This would mean that Paul took the time to give commands about the Lord's supper, love, spiritual gifts and more, but in the case of coverings he ended by saying, Never mind, skip it, no other church practices these things. Again, to hold to this view makes Paul out to be some kind of whimsical madman. In reality, Paul was so serious about these matters, from coverings to the proper use of spiritual gifts, that he declared if anyone ignores these directions, that person must be ignored. For God is not a god of disorder but of peace, as in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches, they are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only one who is a prophet or spiritually gifted? Let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. It doesn't matter if they are a preacher, elder, leader, or your favorite brother or sister. If they ignore everything Paul writes, Wrote in 1 Corinthians chapter eleven through 14, you must ignore them. You cannot speak to them, listen to their sermons, or read their books. They must be ignored. If any woman will not wear a sign of authority in church, if any church will not require and teach that all women should wear a sign of authority, then they must be fully, completely, and totally ignored, just as Paul wrote. If you are a visitor, while this command is a clear requirement of God, it is very far from being legalism. The need to love is also a requirement of Jesus. We do not want visitors to wear a sign of authority just because you worship with us. Rather, we encourage you to seek the Lord, surrender to him, and begin to wear a sign of authority in the joy of the Holy Spirit, remembering it is by faith in God's grace that disciples obey all the things Jesus commanded. As Romans chapter 1, verse 5 declares, this is an obedience that comes from faith, and the demand for a sign of authority is for all disciples of Jesus in every church, in every denomination or place around the world. First Corinthians 11, verse 16. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice, nor do the churches of God. Contact the Consider Podcast. www.consider.info examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.
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