Poison In The Pot, ep 1

A little wild vine can ruin a whole stew—and a little poison in modern “wisdom” can do the same. We put viral clips on the table and test them with Scripture: the grass‑fed dairy debate that spirals into certainty, a watch‑shop negotiation dripping with condescension, a shoplifting brag dressed up as necessity, a rhapsody about Hendrix’s “electric church,” and a blunt monologue on nagging versus peace at home. The goal isn’t outrage or dunking; it’s discernment. Like Elisha adding flour to cleanse the pot, we add humility, patience, and truth to separate what nourishes from what harms.

We start with our own tongues. James says we all stumble, and Proverbs warns that hasty speech outruns wisdom. You’ll hear why listening fully beats winning fast and how humor can correct without humiliating. Then we tackle the sweet taste of stolen goods and the gravel that follows, unpacking why public applause can’t erase moral decay. We probe spiritual language around music and celebrity, naming the fine line between admiration and idolatry. And we wade into translation battles, challenging KJV‑only pride with the translators’ original aim: clarity for common people who want to obey God.

The final turn lands at home. Better a roof corner than a noisy house, says Proverbs—but there’s a better way. We talk practical peace, daily chores, and the steady work of building a strong home through tone, timing, and service. No algorithms of contempt here—just a call to test the stew, keep what’s good, and pour out the rest.

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Transcript

Cold Open: Death In The Pot

SPEAKER_12 0:14

The porridge is poisoned. Poisoned porridge fills the boiling pot. Death does reside in the stew. A wild vine has entwined itself in the pot of stew. Thus the prophets did wail. They cried out, Oh man of God, there is death in the pot. Welcome to this edition of Poison in the Pot on the Consider Podcast. Your fortune from the Poison Pot. We're host, Timothy and Jacob. And this is the Year of Our Lord 2026. The Consider Podcast. Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness.

SPEAKER_07 1:09

Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Timothy 1:28

How's it going, Jacob? It's going good. Did you enjoy winter? Uh there wasn't much of it. I don't think we had one. It does it, I don't think it qualifies as winner. I'd like to know where the complaint department is on this stuff.

Jacob 1:43

Ooh, wait. Well, wouldn't that technically be the Lourdes? So I don't know if we should, you know, rank.

Timothy 1:47

Yeah, that's why I haven't filed a complaint.

Jacob 1:49

Okay, yes.

Timothy 1:51

Besides, he doesn't have a suggestion box. It's rejoice always and give thanks in all circumstances. So yeah, you just best be at peace and be thankful you didn't have to shovel the snow.

Jacob 2:00

Yeah, that's true.

Winter Banter And Gratitude

Timothy 2:02

Got a question for you, Jacob, as we have run out of job opportunities, so let's try this. Is there just just think carefully in your own life, is there any scripture that you live 100%?

Jacob 2:18

Um no. I I you I feel like I would be foolish to claim that I live a scripture a hundred percent, unless it's like um, you know, yeah, nothing good comes out of your mouth, or you know, one of those type scriptures. All men are evil, you know, that's true.

Do We Live Any Scripture Fully

Timothy 2:36

So yeah, you can't think of any that you live a hundred percent then. Uh no. Okay. That's sad. That's sad because there there's a scripture I live one hundred percent every day, consistently, never stops. I'm always doing it. I've never a hypocrite in it, ever. Yeah. It's just who was your preacher? Because to say that no, there isn't any that I live, that's pretty pathetic. Who is again? Where's the complaint box against that kind of pastor? Well, here's the scripture that I live 100%. Let's go to James chapter three, verse two. And it's too bad you didn't kind of stick with the last part, but here's a scripture I live all the time. Would you like to read it?

Jacob 3:25

Sure, I can read it.

Timothy 3:26

All right, go for it.

Jacob 3:28

We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.

Stumbling And The Tamed Tongue

Timothy 3:39

I stumble in many ways every day. You were close on the tongue. Okay. Uh it's a relentless evil that only God can tame. So you can get close. You know, it says uh you can become a perfect man, but part of being a perfect man is stumbling in that perfection. Does that make sense?

Jacob 3:57

Yes.

Series Plan: Testing Viral Clips

Grass‑Fed Beef Claims, Explained

Timothy 3:58

In other words, uh uh, you look at David, a man after God's own heart, and you look at all the things he did, you go, Well, in the sense of seeking God consistently, he was a perfect man in terms of his faith. It was solid and perfect. So you I yeah, I really could throw the Pharisees and the current uh church uh in a dilemma if I said, Yeah, I'm a perfect man. I mean, they go ballistic. I wouldn't even be able to get through the discussion discussion. But the main you know, the main point here is that, well, obviously we all stumble in many ways. So we're gonna be looking at some videos where people are stumbling and doing things, but it's not coming from any type of self-righteous play here, or that I'm superior in any way, and and I know you would say the same thing. What we're gonna do is, and this will be a series that comes and goes, we'll take some videos that are out there, short ones, listen to them, apply them to scripture. And so the poison is in the videos, clearly. Yeah. We're looking at an impure life, impure comments, whatever. And there is a danger that eventually we may bump into somebody that is pretty clear. Well, it may be that they may have gone further and actually been perfect in what they were saying, but but the video gets clipped in such a way. For that, the best I can do in a moment is pa apologize and kick me, you know, a message or whatever, if it really is that drastic and let me know. But I'm sure you could go through many of my sermons, there's lots of words. Um and it's gonna be hard. Perfection would just be in the sense of it was consistently pointing to the word of God, the living word of God in Jesus Christ. Yes. All right. Well, let's see, what do we want to do here? I don't want to quite explain what we're doing here with poison in the pot, because let's do a couple examples here first. And by the way, we'll come back to Bible girls or whatever it is. I've I've got some other material I'm working on to incorporate into that, and it certainly is taking his time. My only guess is God's maybe trying to give them a chance to repent before we kind of go in and finish up that whole area. Um that would be a nice hope anyway. Yeah. All right, any thoughts or anything before we kind of press on? Nope. Well, let's do our first one and then apply it to the word of God and to kind of set the scene a little bit, this guy's commenting on another guy's comment about grass-fed cows. I mean, like, I don't know about you, but when you go to the grocery store, do you look for, you know, uh pasture-fed chickens or uh cows or whatever? Is that a thing you do, or are you guys tight on a budget because of family?

Jacob 6:37

Uh yeah, no, we do not buy grass-fed, pasture-raised whatevers. We buy whatever's there.

Timothy 6:44

That's true, whatever's there. The only way you could probably get by with is you buy a side of beef or whatever and put it in the freezer to get really true that. All right, so what's your impression? You may already know more, could you a little more on the country? What does a grass-fed cow mean to you?

Jacob 7:00

Oh, okay. So um, so ooh, um a grass-fed cow is 100% grass-fed, so they they naturally grazed in the fields versus mo most cows, even if they graze, they are what's usually referred to as finished at the end for X amount of weeks to get that fat on them, which is the marbling in the meat.

Timothy 7:30

Wow, that's a very good detailed explanation.

Jacob 7:33

Well, I didn't know how much I mean I could go on and on, but anyways, that's well no keep going on and on. I'm learning something now. That's the exact summary. So then, yes, every I haven't even seen this video that we're about to play, but everybody argues about this and that and whatever. And I will say grass-fed beef is usually uh a way more leaner than so than actually in today's American diet, and everybody wants a fat, juicy burger. It's not gonna make you a fat, greasy, juicy burger. It's actually, you know, it's technically more healthy, I think. Technically, it's more healthy, it's natural.

Timothy 8:06

Absolutely. In fact, you're a good cook, I'm a lousy cook, don't like it, you like it. You're you know, you're also a handyman. I've I found there's a real correlation between handyman and being able to cook, but that that's a side issue. That was my thought too. Yeah, cows roaming in the field, watching football on Sundays, making sure they don't do any work or anything because you know you want them all nice and lean and fat or whatever you get, no antibiotics, that kind of routine, right? Okay, yeah. All right, so let's play this next video. And and we still may be right on some of this, but but this this this is well done, so go for it.

SPEAKER_14 8:45

Yeah, that's right. I they just I didn't know y'all was putting them in headlocks.

SPEAKER_06 8:49

They're not in headlocks. That's barrier gate keeps them from going all the way through and stomping and crabbing all over their feet. It's actually quite good for them.

SPEAKER_14 8:56

And dumping the grass on their head.

SPEAKER_06 8:57

They don't care. They're savages.

The Viral Dairy Clip And Reaction

SPEAKER_14 9:00

I don't know why. The extra four dollars I spend for the grass-fed cow beef.

SPEAKER_06 9:04

Oh, it's dairy cows, that's not beef cattle.

SPEAKER_14 9:07

I in my head, I thought they had hotels, I thought they had a little maid, I thought they was roaming around grass, living their best life.

SPEAKER_06 9:14

Grass doesn't grow all year.

SPEAKER_14 9:16

Go look outside. And y'all got them in the same conditions. Y'all told me that they get the roam out there.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

Gast fed and grass finished doesn't mean they're not being finished in a feedlot. You can absolutely feed grass and grass silage in a feedlot.

SPEAKER_14 9:30

Because then they're gonna be stressed out and the meat's gonna be higher quality.

SPEAKER_06 9:33

Cortisol stress creates an abundance of lactic acid in the muscle fibers, makes the meat turn an unsavory purple and not taste quite as good. But that's going to happen during the slaughter process. Has nothing to do with how they're fed.

SPEAKER_14 9:44

But they just as stressed out.

SPEAKER_06 9:46

You sound stressed out. The cows themselves are actually having a pretty good time.

SPEAKER_14 9:50

Hey, put your head in the middle. We're gonna dump your lunch on your head. You know how stressed out I'll be if you threw my Tripotle burrito in the back of my head?

SPEAKER_06 9:57

But if it was free and you didn't have to pay for housing like those cows.

SPEAKER_14 10:00

You know how mad I'd be at that? Like, I I'm tired. The whole food industry, especially in America, is a damn scam.

SPEAKER_06 10:06

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_14 10:07

Yeah. So, Ruth, whoever farm this is, let me dump your plate of breakfast on top of your head like this. Where's my wife? Honey. And see if you feel less stressed out for the day with your dumb ass.

Jacob 10:22

Any quick thoughts, Mr. Jacob? Uh it is funny. Uh the guy, the whole uh, you know, that's the only thing they agreed upon. He goes, the whole food industry is a scam. And he goes, Yeah, it is.

Proverbs On Hasty Speech

Timothy 10:36

Absolutely. Um I don't, you know, I I don't know whether it applies to beef cows. I'm sure there's subtle differences, but I thought it was hilariously done. Yes. And let's look at Proverbs chapter 29, verse 20, and I'll have you read that because here's the lesson in that. Uh it took me while I was a young man, a young pastor, whatever, you know, mouthing off, speaking. God's had to humble me many, many times from within and without and all that kind of thing, you know. As we've talked about in James, nobody can tame the tongue. No man can do it. Yeah. You meet a man who's like totally quiet in silence, he's up to no good. Uh it's not manly, it's not anything like it's not a John Wayne kind of thing, or you're just in control. You're self-righteous and arrogant. No man can tame the tongue. Those that talk too much obviously have the sin of talking too much. I don't want to go too deep in this because we've got other things to cover. Go ahead and read Proverbs 29-20, and we'll let's gonna apply it. See, by the way, the poison in the pot obviously is the man's opinion, and he's mouthing off, and you know, he's all worked up and it's the end of the world. And by the way, it is the end of the world, so people, hey, relax. It is the end of the world. That's not gonna change.

Jacob 11:44

Proverbs 29 20, Jacob, go ahead. Do you see a man who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Quick To Listen, Slow To Speak

Timothy 11:54

I clear as it is today, isn't it? Yes, it is. Alright, so then let's go to James chapter 1, verse 19, and uh apply it to the poison in the pot in this particular video. James 1 verse 19.

Jacob 12:18

My dear brothers, take note of this. Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry.

Timothy 12:28

Yea. Learning to be slow to speak, really listening to people. And then let me put a fine edge on that. Says, be quick to listen. Not just slow to speak, kind of thing. You have to have the two there. Are you really listening to what other people are saying? No matter how even if you object or whatever, agree. Even if you agree, listening fully with somebody, you know, so often people, if they agree, they go, oh, yeah, yeah. And then we add into by interrupting them. And I've for instance, I'll go into a doctor, whatever, I've done some research on some basic stuff, and he's telling me stuff that I know and have already looked at and experienced in life. But I learned a long time ago to go, do you understand this before he goes to speak, right? And I'll go, Yeah, but go ahead and tell me because I might learn something new. And that's really true. So I listen again, it reinforces again what I might have learned that's been true, and there's always, usually always something that's added to it that I gain knowledge with. And then, of course, love is sincere. I'm able to really listen to what the person is saying, actually care what they're saying, and appreciate the expertise with what they're speaking. Make sense? Makes sense. Probably the only time I would get a little edgy is if I was listening to a lawyer or to a prosecutor. It's like, okay, you're not saying you are not going to say anything worthwhile. Now I'm not talking a lawyer that I hired or whatever. I'm you know talking about being attacked kind of routine because you're not up to anything pure. Correct. James 119, my dear brothers, this is just love. Take note. This is this should be highlighted. You should be able to pick up any Christian's Bible. Well, if people carry them, flip open to it and note that they've got this one highlighted. Because it is it not saying take note. Yes. So we should take notes. This note should be around somewhere. But you know what? I don't know that I've ever seen a plaque in a Christian bookstore that you can put on your wall.

Jacob 14:27

Have you? Ooh. Uh no. I do not think they've made, yeah, plaques or cards or anything that you would like, you know, to remind you of this scripture. I can't say I've seen them.

Arrogance At The Watch Counter

Timothy 14:39

Yeah. You know, many, many decades ago I did real Christian greeting cards. Didn't sell. Yeah. Didn't expect to. But I never saw a greeting card that said, you know, I was just thinking of you today, brother, and you open up, you know, shut up and listen. You know, be slow to speak and don't become angry, stupid, right? You know? Okay, so it's not anywhere. You can't go buy a plaque, and you you know, this would be really great as a banner in a church, but I've never seen it. Yeah. Everybody, you know, be quick to listen. You're entering the house of God, be quiet. Man, all of these are nice, nice sermons in themselves. Any other comments on the cow thing? Uh I like the way this guy did it, and it was all you know, I like the humor with which he did it. He didn't make the guy look stupid per se. You know, he didn't just attack him. It was it was done in a humorous way. We've all acted out of ignorance. I have. We get all indignant, and then I find out, oops, another side of the story. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, okay, that that's nice. So comments before we do the next one. Nope.

SPEAKER_12 15:43

The liquid stew bubbles. The wood fire cracks, spits, and heats up. The spoons are ready to scoop and slurp to the mouth. But wait, we spot another aroma of poison in the pot, bobbying and popping to the surface.

Timothy 16:12

Okay, Mr. Jacob, this next one is classically arrogant. Okay. Um, but the guy completely overlooks the arrogance. Now he has another goal in mind. But listen to this lady and how she's condescending and arrogant. But sh she's so much into it she doesn't realize at all. It's not an angry kind of way. It go ahead and play it. It's very it's it's laughable, but you gotta catch the subtleties of all of her prejudices and all of her condensation and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

How are you? I'm doing well. How are you? It's just nice to see your people working. Yeah, thank you. It's wonderful. I thought you might be in hiding. Okay, yeah. And you look so nice in that suit. Yeah. Where are you from?

SPEAKER_13 17:05

My family's Pakistani.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Oh, you speak so well.

SPEAKER_13 17:09

I was born here in America.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

That's wonderful.

SPEAKER_13 17:12

Can I take a look at what you have? You have one Rolex and something in a carnier bag? I do. Okay, can you take a look? Yes. Okay. All right. Let's see. Oh, wow. This is a nice piece.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

It was a present from this.

SPEAKER_13 17:25

Okay, and this box is empty. Okay. Let's take a look at that. That's a really nice piece. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Well, you know, I'm gonna get straight to business. Are you looking at the symbols of these watches today?

SPEAKER_02 17:42

What is your name?

SPEAKER_13 17:43

Zaheer.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Zaheer.

SPEAKER_13 17:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

You know, I have a neighbor that was Mexican.

Overlooking Insults With Wisdom

SPEAKER_13 17:51

Okay. Well, let me take a look at these watches. Did we have the serial card that came with it? This is a 2024. Okay. This one I'm familiar with. It's a mid-sized collection, same steel. So let me just see. I would be um maybe. That's a thing. Um, I'll be at 25,000 for both items. And we'll be able to take care of it right now. Do you have your idea on you? Of course. No, no, no. You know what? I won't even look at that. We just use it for our system. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

I was a little blunder than that.

SPEAKER_13 18:30

You might have a second.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

25,000 cash. I don't know about cash. I'm not one of those ladies that buries money in their bathtub.

SPEAKER_13 18:39

Okay, let me get you a check right now. Give me just a moment. Okay. All right, ma'am. There you go. And we've got a check written out to the name on your ID, okay?

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Wonderful.

SPEAKER_13 18:48

Thank you so much, okay? We can take these for if you don't need them. Okay. All right, appreciate it. Bye-bye. Come visit us in Atlanta for cash on the spot for your gold, diamonds, and watches.

Jacob 18:57

What do you think, Jacob? I I'd be curious where this was at. Like in the U.S. She said Los Angeles. Oh, okay. I missed it. Oh, she's in LA. And yeah, wow. Talk about actually that explains like half of the attitude, right? Uh LA.

Timothy 19:16

Yeah, it's hard to get mad at her. I'm laughing at her. Um you couldn't have done any better if you were doing a Saturday night uh skit. Every sentence is condescending.

Jacob 19:28

Yes. And he he must be used to it. He has gotten which just shows you how bad LA is. You know what I mean? You can tell he is super smooth and pro about it, and he probably has it, gets that all the time.

Why “Poison In The Pot” Matters

Timothy 19:42

He does. In fact, if you go watch his whole series, I'm amazed at not just the condensation, but people come in like hostile. I don't I don't you'd think they call him cheaters and liar and all kinds of stuff. And you know, I this is this is a real world X. By the way, did you want either one of those watches? Uh no, I personally didn't. The blue dial wasn't too bad, although I have no use for what,$18,000 watch.

Jacob 20:07

Yeah, and eight, yeah, one was eighteen and another, you know, so then that was like us people are not good at math. You're good at math, too. Um okay, so is this lady genuinely think he didn't know English? Because she's talking real loud, like he wouldn't understand.

Timothy 20:29

Oh, she's genuine. That's why it's it it's it's one thing for somebody to come in and they just hate you, right?

Jacob 20:36

Yeah.

2 Kings: The Wild Vine In The Stew

Timothy 20:36

But you can tell my guess is she grew up in wealth. And it's ingrained in her that she's superior and she has money. You know, I'm not one of these women that bury money in the backyard kind of routine and on this, and you're you're hand you know, flattery. She grew when people grow up around money, this is the culture that you see. The flattery, the selling of things, yeah. My late husband bought this for me, so oh, your people. I I I I I shouldn't laugh, but the the funniest one was, yeah, I even had a neighbor that was Mexican. Yeah, I had a Mexican. What what does that have to do with anything though? Well, again, she's looking down on other people and races and that she's superior and has money. I'm just thankful she didn't go, yeah. I had a maid once that was Mexican, you know. Yeah. Man, that gets rough at that point. Um now I could only take being not from an anger standpoint, being around her, but after a while, okay. Uh it'd be amazing to watch. Man, where does this language go in the condensation? Yes. Condensation? I'm not even saying the right. Well, look at Proverbs chapter 19, verse 11, because this is what we're seeing lived out. Now, granted, he's got money as a motive. What we want is the love of Jesus Christ that you just overlook an insult. There's a couple reasons for that. One, I've said things in judgment and about other people that okay, you know, it's just mouthing off, convicted about Later, that kind of thing. And we've all criticized in ways, and then if we had the fullness of the Holy Spirit, again we're back to that stumbling in many ways. We realize I shouldn't have said that and so on. Now I'm talking about true disciples of Jesus that are pursuing righteousness and holiness. The rest of you you're lost in all your delusions and dreams and self-justifications. Read Proverbs 19, verse 11, there, Jacob.

Jacob 22:26

A man's wisdom gives him patience. It is to his glory to overlook an offense.

Timothy 22:34

What can you say? You just overlook it. You just ignore it. Um not everything is to be a challenge. Stomp on somebody, tell them how wrong they are. Can you imagine if he tried to battle every single point that she stated? Um Yeah. In fact, he just turned a lot. Yeah, we're actually good at that, you know, doing money, that kind of stuff. So um we won't watch it again, but I I've had to watch it a couple times because it it's kind of a perfect insulting type person.

Jacob 23:04

Oh, yeah. Like super.

Timothy 23:07

All right. Now don't go ahead and play this, and you'll have to cut this out. We're gonna jump in now to what we're kind of doing. Okay.

Jacob 23:16

Don't play next spot at this one. Is that what you're saying?

Discernment Before You Consume

Timothy 23:19

No, because we're gonna go now, we're gonna talk about um in uh yeah, in detail what we're doing. Okay. All right, Jacob, let's take a moment here to explain exactly what we're doing. And for most of you people, if don't get bored, uh we need to lay a foundation here of what's going on. We need to learn to wait on the Lord and let things kind of meditate in on us. Let's go to 2 Kings, Jacob, chapter 6, verse 1, and let's hammer this out a little bit. And when I say hammered out, I of course I mean hammered on the cross, put ourselves on the cross, ask Jesus Christ to enlighten us, to make it real. 2 Timothy chapter 6, verse 1 says the company of prophets said to Elijah. So we're talking about a company of prophets, a group, right? Yeah. Keep that in mind. Says, well, let me back up. King County prosecutors go bananas if there was a group. In fact, there was a group. Well, they weren't prophets, but there was a group of righteous Christians, right? Ah, governing authorities don't like this. But it says the company of the prophets said to Elijah, look, the place where we meet with you is too small for us. Well, they come to him, to Elijah. He he's the head prophet, right? They come to him with a complaint, right? Yeah. Now you notice there's no bad attitudes there, like, Elijah, if you were a prophet, you would know this place is too small and see ahead, and we never would have wound out here. And the complaints would just go on and on, right? But they're they're not a complaining people. They're realizing that Elijah's minds and other things, and he's not realizing because it it is kind of like in a weird way, in an oversight, maybe. Or God is trying to work something else, and so he blinds Elijah to where the situation is to build character in other people, to glorify his name. It's kind of like Jesus will say, Yeah, this person had this illness from the time they were born in order to glorify God. Not not all illnesses are a result of disobedience, sin, or whatever. Sometimes it's just simply to glorify God. Comments? Uh no. So they give Elijah directions. He's humble enough to take it. Verse two, let us go to the Jordan where each of us can get a pole and let us build a place there for us to live. And he said, Go. Again, we see the testing quality here in Elijah the prophet. Because normal behavior would be, you know, Elijah, this is too small. You go, yeah, I agree with you. It really is too small. So let's, you know, take our tents, pick up, and move on, right? But that's not what he does. You'll notice the he leaves out directions and he's kind of short to the point because he's drawing their hearts out. And that's part of why Sound Doctor Church was so persecuted. Not every answer was spelled out, not everything was laid out convenient. You had to think. You had God's trying to draw out the heart that's within us. So me, as in leadership, did not go around rebuking people all the time or correcting them all the time, because God's trying to draw that out so that they see that. And if you don't want to see that, of course, you get mad and leave. Any comment on that, Jacob? No. All right, so 2 Kings chapter 6, verse 3.

Jacob 26:38

You read it then. Then one of them said, Won't you please come with your servants? I will, Elisha replied.

Power Blip, Perspective, And Reset

Timothy 26:46

So see what he's doing is he's drawing out the love. Won't you come with us? We don't really want to go up if you're not going to go with us. Just creating fellowship. Isn't that pretty grand? Mm-hmm. All right. So let's go to let's move on to chapter four, uh, verse eight. Second Kings chapter four, verse eight. I'm sorry. Well, I'm looking at my notes, so we're going forward, but you're right. Yeah, yeah. We are going back into the book of 2 Kings. Yeah. You are absolutely correct. Okay, yeah. This is this is another sub point before I get to the main part that we'll digest here in a moment. Okay. Go and read 2 Kings 4a through 10.

Jacob 27:27

One day Elisha went to Shum and a well-to-do woman was there who urged him to stay for a meal. So whenever he came by, he stopped there to eat. She said to her husband, I know that this man who often comes our way is a holy man of God. Let's make a small room on the roof and put it and put in it a bed and a table and a chair and a lamp for him. Then he can stay there whenever he comes to us.

Timothy 27:55

I want you to notice again remember on the first one, no wonder God keeps his prophets out in the distance away from the city. Not always. I mean, Jeremiah was in the middle of it all, but he was heavily persecuted. So you can imagine King County prosecutors, oh, he's taking advantage of the rich. He he's brainwashed this rich poor woman to set him up and to be in this nice house, and no telling what else goes on because he's in the house where the husband lives. You get my point. It gets nasty stuff. But that's the way these people are. They would not look at Elijah and go, there's a man of God, but she can see he's a holy man. She doesn't go, well, there are other holy men, or he's not as good as he thinks he is, and he's not as spiritually as. And I remember when he stumbled over here. There's none of that. She she sees what he is clearly for who he is, and so she provides for his needs. Now again, she's not giving him yachts and fancy cars and all kinds of stuff. Um very simple, basic needs for life. Um, but she's a well-to-do woman. Any points or anything on that, Jacob?

Jacob 29:01

No, other than it's nothing fancy, but it would still be something special. Because they add back then to have your own room with a roof, a bed and a table, chair and lamp. I'm assuming back then though, obviously, yes, it's not yacht territory, but this would not be nothing. Only a well-to-do woman could do this. Nobody else could even could do it.

Sweet Theft, Gravel Aftertaste

Timothy 29:22

Well, and you know, no doubt it was done with quality. Yeah. If scripture's making mention she's well-to-do, correct. She's not giving him the tool shed out back with a window fan or anything like that. She by nature, she's going to do what rich people do, and it's going to be high quality stuff. Correct. I'm looking at, look at it. She's specific. A small room on the roof. He's able to see the stars. He's above everything. He he's able to meditate on the Lord. She's providing in a spiritual sense. I I would think she realizes it that, you know, we could give him room in the back lot in the back corner with one of the servants, but no, this is on the roof above all of us. He can, again, the stars will become important later in other uh podcasts we look at. He's able to look at the stars and pray and come out. He's able to get some rest. None of this whining on he doesn't work as hard as everybody else. He doesn't deserve it. He's not, you know, he thinks he's some special prophet. I'll get a bit. This is all done out of love and purity. And any reasonable person is going to look at this and go, Yeah, Elijah not only needs this, he deserves it to be able to do the work that he's doing. Yeah. She goes on, I'll give him a chair, which, you know, you bring up a good point. I think that probably would be a fairly big deal.

Jacob 30:38

Probably. I mean, uh again, when you have a lot of people that are like laying their heads on rocks, of course, that was a little bit before, but you know what I mean.

Timothy 30:45

Oh, no, that's a good point. Well, no, and Mel Gibson's movie, What is that uh about Jesus Christ? Passion of the Christ. Passion of the Christ. Remember, there's a scene, and I really like it, is uh Jesus is building a table. Mm-mm. Yeah. And and the Mary comes in and goes, like, yeah, what's this for, you know, kind of thing. And she laughs at him kind of routine. Yeah. Um, I don't know where that inspiration came from, but uh it's quite telling. And a lamp for him, so he can keep working 24-7. Now, again, you get the whiners and the complainers that, oh, look, he gets to rest, he gets to sit in a chair, he gets his own little lamp in the room, and his food's provided for. He doesn't have to do any real work. That's the implication. Yes. Uh, then he can come stay whenever he comes to us. So whenever. It's just an open invitation, fully prepared for him. That is a rare thing, even in the church. Very, very rare, rare, as it is for holy and righteous men. All right, let's explain this poison in the pot stuff. So go ahead and play this particular MP4 file, and let's dive in as quickly as we can to explain really what we're doing.

Consequences Hidden In Pleasure

SPEAKER_08 31:54

2 Kings 4, 38 through 41. Elisha returned to Gilgal, and there was a famine in that region. While the company of the prophets was meeting with him, he said to his servant, Put on the large pot and cook some stew for these men. One of them went out into the fields to gather herbs and found a wild vine. He gathered some of its gourds and filled the fold of his cloak. When he returned, he cut them up into the pot of stew, though no one knew what they were. The stew was poured out for the men, but as they began to eat it, they cried out, Oh man of God, there is death in the pot. And they could not eat it. Elisha said, get some flour. He put it into the pot and said, Serve it to the people to eat. And there was nothing harmful in the pot.

Timothy 32:45

Jacob, is the pot a hundred percent poison? Uh no. That's right. Some aspects of it are poison because what? There was a wild vine put into it, right?

Jacob 33:00

Yes.

Timothy 33:01

And then Elisha says, go and put some flour in it. And of course, what's the main lesson here? What's the real main lesson here?

Jacob 33:10

Uh the main lesson, be careful what you eat.

Timothy 33:15

No, don't serve a group of prophets who can see behind what's going on and dangers that are there.

Jacob 33:21

What uh what do you mean?

Rogan, Hendrix, And Electric Church

Timothy 33:23

Don't well, what I mean is the prophets have insight in general things in life as well as deep spiritual things. Sure. Now I was opposing here a little bit. I don't think it was served to them and they took two or three bites, and then you know, a couple of them keeled over and go, oh, there's poison in the pot. Prophets see beyond what we see on a daily basis. Yes. That kind of thing. So they have insight is a better way to put it. Uh and I think what happened is you're serving the it's all set before them and they're going, wait a minute, something inside of me is telling me this, obviously it's God, is telling me there's poison in the pot. So you're sensing that there's something in there that you haven't tasted or gotten to yet, but that you're gonna deal with it kind of thing. Now, as a side note, I mean like I said, these are massive sermons in themselves. They were humble enough to go to Elijah going, you know, we what do we do here? What would be a normal reaction? Let's say you're sitting in a group and you sense, you know, that what I'm serving you is poison. Uh what would you normally do?

Jacob 34:26

If I was in a group, I there's um normally you would just like kind of quietly not eat it.

Timothy 34:36

Right. Quietly not eat it, or wait certainly for other somebody else to eat it, uh, because self-preservation, pride wouldn't get in the way, that kind of thing, or you don't want to insult the host. Um that's my main point. It's just that human nature. But that's not what they do. They cry out, they're walking in the light. They're specific, they're saying there's something that they're sure of what they're saying. So all the that pretense is kind of gone. These these are people fellowshipping with each other. Um man, as I said, this is these are sermons in itself. This is part of what walking in the light would be and what's revealed and what's going on and the works that people are doing. All right. My main point here is that from time to time we're gonna take videos and YouTube's and podcasts and things like that and kind of break them down and apply scripture. Probably won't go too deep with them, um, but we'll kind of clean up. We're gonna add flour or the wheat of life. And I don't think this is white refined, you know, vitamin enriched flour. This would have been hardcourse good flour that's good for you. I I'm not describing food well. Sure. Um, you got an idea what good flour might be? I didn't bother to go into Groka and go, okay, what was the flour back during the Old Testament time? I I get the idea, the flour is good for you. The flour even destroys the poison. He knew what to do, right?

Jacob 35:55

Correct.

Doctrines Of Demons Called Out

Timothy 35:56

What's kind of amazing, and we've talked about this before, that good cooking is really a lot of master of chemistry. So Elisha, he's not a cook. Yeah. His food was provided for him by the rich lady, right?

Jacob 36:10

Yeah.

Timothy 36:11

So he's not necessarily a good cook, trained in the art of, you know, he wasn't trained by Chef Ramsey of the day. But he knew what to do in the Lord. Comments on that?

Jacob 36:23

Um no, I think it was only interesting too is that technically somebody ate a tiny bit of it because in uh 440 it says that they began to eat it. So somebody somebody took a bite. Good point. Good point, maybe they tasted it. Maybe they instantly knew because you know, the whole pot wasn't bad. This this poison was put in, any type of poison, or like you know, you you have to eat enough of it for it to kill you. So somebody, but they instantly knew it was bad, right? So even if we watch a video or something, you can instantly know, you know, oh, wait a minute, this is this is off, you know, even if you don't know all of the extent, or but you can just, ooh, something's off. There's some poison in here.

Timothy 37:09

Yeah, in order to salvage my point, you get you put the spoon in and you pick it up and you move it to your mouth, you can either smell it, but you don't quite eat it. You and both of us could be right. I I'm just making a point here. I'm just having kind of fun with the scripture at this point. The whatever the case is, they knew.

Jacob 37:26

Oh, yeah. No, I'm not you didn't, I'm not saying you you're oh no, I know you weren't. You know, yeah. But just that, but also oh, even though, even like even if we watch these videos, you know, if you watch too many videos, or even just it's just you know, if you just sit there and consume all of this garbage too much, it will kill you. Like even these people, technically, somebody tasted a little bit of it, but then they stopped, and then you apply, okay, what needs to happen that we it's safe to consume.

Language, KJV-Onlyism, And Power

Timothy 37:57

There you hit a hundred percent of what we're doing. Think of all the the podcasts out there. Uh a lot of them will make points that are correct, yeah, but there's poison mixed in with what's going on here. And if you consume what they're Jordan Peterson's a good example of this, at least in the past, you know, making solid points. There's other people that we may get to later. Um, but then there's poison. And if you consume it, if you take it in, if you devour it, so to speak, it will harm you, make you ill, or possibly kill you spiritually. Yeah. Think of all the videos out there. There's some truth to what's being said. Um, just like the cow thing, there was an impurity mix in there. Yeah. And I didn't bother to go through all that. Would I couldn't post any video actually, if I applied the purity that would be required to say, okay, I can post it. I'd be there all day editing. So people, you're just gonna have to excuse the the custom. Most people probably do. We're so used to it kind of routine. Yes. Uh I never quite get used to it. All right. Sub point. Uh, do we have time for it? Not really. I'm just gonna mention if you read 2 Kings chapter 4, verses 42 through 44, that's an exact example of Jesus when he multiplied the bread and the fish. So Lord was clearly with him. All right. So speaking of food, play our intro clip, Jacob, and let's move right into this next video.

Jacob 39:43

The power is back on. We have a slight delay there.

Timothy 39:47

Are we on generator power? Did you fire it up or what what are we doing here?

Jacob 39:51

We're doing battery backup, is what I opted for. I didn't want anything to be loud.

Timothy 39:56

Wow, you must it must be a good size uh battery to run this thing because I can talk a little long. Now, my question for you is should I go into Satan attacked us and the power went off and you know, and everybody, hey man, hella you, but this devil came to kill and destroy, and so it all comes from him, and the power is and the darkness flooded the land, but we will continue to persevere and fight against spiritual forces that shut down this video and this podcast. What do you think?

Jacob 40:26

Um, probably not. That doesn't mean it's not true, but I I don't know if we need to divert.

Timothy 40:32

Oh, I'm just gonna go with the power went out.

Jacob 40:35

The power went out, uh, because it's a corrupt, aging, dying world.

Timothy 40:40

Yes, and we need to infrastructure needs to be done, and it went out at a proper moment. So my take on it, God was there, it went out, and now we can recap. Are we ready for the video?

Jacob 40:52

We're ready for the video.

Timothy 40:53

All right, let's play it and apply the word of God to the poison in the pot.

Understanding The Times, Not 1611

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Hi you guys, I'm out of the store. So they wanted$7 for this. Mind you, I don't have food stamps anymore. They cut me off. So I only had$22 left in food stamps. So this is what I stole. Okay. They wanted$9 for this. I said, I don't got$9. Then they wanted, then they wanted$2 for this. They wanted Sorry, it's all fucked up because it's been in my purse.$7 for this. I'm making some stuffed salmon today. These are needed. I'm not paying$7 for that. Okay. Let me show you the most important thing to me. Short ribs. Take off the label so that you don't beat. Get your fucking me. How many do you think that I got? How many short ribs is that?

Timothy 42:02

I I venture to open this up for comments. Jacob?

Jacob 42:07

Uh I had no idea. I knew people stole a lot of things from the store. I had no idea we were posting on the internet about the things we stole. I've never seen that before ever.

Timothy 42:20

You have to give her credit. She was able to steal all of that. I I'm assuming it was from one store. Oh, yeah, it was one store. Now, I don't know about you, but I've tried to take labels off a lot of things that I just didn't want the label on. I wasn't stealing it. I know, yeah, exactly. I can't get the label on, you had to do that.

Jacob 42:39

Yeah, you're like, it's got labels, it's covering up this thing, whatever, and they they yeah, they don't peel right, and you know, you gotta use like goo gone.

Timothy 42:48

And then, of course, the justifications are just literally amazing. Yeah, they cut me off a food stamp, so it's food stamps problem. I only have$20 left on my food stamps, so clearly I'm in poverty. Of course, there's a reason why they probably cut her off, but but who knows? I'm sure that's evil Trump maneuvering and of course clearly she's starving and all of that stuff.

Jacob 43:08

Well, so then she's stealing Tic Tacs. It's one thing, but well, okay, I'm I can't I'm not I'm not condoling stealing, but it's one thing if like I'm so poor, here is my tiny baby, I have to buy like baby formula. No, she's also stealing tic-tacks and other whatever candy mint looking things, and then oh, I'm my ribs, but like, you know, it's not even like yeah, yeah, and it's like, yeah, we're having salmon because it's written down on my calendar to have salmon sandwiches or whatever.

Nagging, Peace, And Building A Home

Timothy 43:38

So I had to steal the salmon because to do that. Yeah. The logic is uh is amazing, but let's just go to Proverbs chapter 20, verse 17. Because she's smiling, she's happy. You can you can read the joy in her voice about what she got by with, yeah. And she's tapping the whole things and going through it. Proverbs 20 verse 17, kind of obvious, but it says food gained by fraud tastes sweet to man. We we see that even in our dogs. If they can steal something, there's a lot more pleasure to the fact that they stole it, even though they know they know it's wrong.

Jacob 44:16

Yeah.

Timothy 44:16

Oh yeah. If you walk in on your doggy that stole a pork chop off the table, while they might relish, oh, I got the pork chop and doing the whole bit, you can see the reaction on the human animal going, Yeah, I know what I did was wrong.

Jacob 44:31

Yeah, even well, even a dog, my dog, right? He ate he eats something, it was tasty, and then you can look at him, and what does he do? He crouches, he lowers his ears, like he he knows he's in trouble. This lady, I mean, you're posting on the internet. She's like proud that she stole.

Timothy 44:52

This isn't just a conscience that's bad. This is a conscience that's dark and bad. Yeah. It's one thing to go, well, you know, the white man owes it to me, and I deserve this, and I'm oppressed. I mean, that's what's that's why you got corrupt court judges, you know, because yeah, we we've been oppressed all this time. Nah, she's oblivious to all that. This has nothing to do with any social construct. This just has to do with I stole it and I'm justified because I needed it, I wanted it, and the root cause is they took away my food stamps. Yeah. Proverbs 217, food game by fraud taste sweet to man. There's no arguing that point. But he ends up with a mouthful of gravel. Obviously, she's going to be judged for this in the end, but this only encourages this kind of behavior on the internet. So not only are you going to pay if you don't repent by going to hell for all eternity for stealing food. I mean, it's one thing we talked about this in a couple past podcasts where if somebody steals because they have to and they're starving, they got to pay the price, but you still show compassion for the fact that they had to steal. It's not like she stole peanut butter and said, Yeah, I don't even have bread to put it on here. This this is just flat-out stealing for stealing stake sake. Uh go ahead and you read Proverbs chapter 9, verse 17, Jacob. Because God seems to repeat it, like, hey people, pay attention. I didn't I didn't spend all of eternity ranging the universe and putting the planets where they need to be, providing you with shade and water and all these things. I'm going to have to repeat this because you're not even thinking like a dog with a conscience. Go ahead, Proverbs 9:17.

Jacob 46:35

Stolen stolen water is sweet. Food eaten in secret is delicious.

The Wise Woman Builds Or Breaks

Timothy 46:42

And by the way, I'm not comparing her to a dog. Pick any animal you want, has a conscience that what they're taking. Monkeys do this and that kind of thing. Uh it demonstrates that what? Even the animal world, for which we are all a part of, has an ingrained kind of conscience. I'm not saying they do the right thing, but they at least know if they did the wrong thing that it's wrong. Yeah. Of course, she's no different than most of the Christian church. They do a bunch of wrong things. They ignore a lot of scripture, and they don't even have a clue. I mean, they're just as clueless as she is. We're just looking at something very basic. Proverbs chapter 9, go to verse 18, Jacob, and let's just do one more scripture on this.

Jacob 47:23

918. But little do they know that the dead are there, that her guests are in the depths of the grave.

Timothy 47:33

I'm gonna read that again a little bit slower. Because clearly she doesn't know that, and I don't know that most people know that. Proverbs nine, verse eighteen. But little do they know that the dead are there, that her guests are in the depths of the grave. So was it the salmon sandwiches she was making? Is that what she mentioned?

Jacob 47:55

Uh I think it was like like uh it was ribs, short ribs.

Timothy 47:59

Well, she's making ribs, and then she says, We're having salmon. I think it was I'd have to play again if I weren't that. Well, she has guests that are there, they just happen to be in the depths of the grave. Look, stealing may be required because of hunger or whatever, but not until I've cried out fully to the Lord to provide. If he can multiply fishes and loaves and bread, he will provide for those needs, even if it's the strength to continue to starve. Now, again, I've never been in a concentration can, never been in a place of real starvation. I just know the power of my God. And that is not to say that I wouldn't, you know, there reaches a point where you got to reach in. Even David ate the food that was for the priests to do and reached in and did the honey. There's all kinds of stories. So I'm not trying to lay down a dogmatic rule about this, other than clearly this is wrong. Yeah. All right. Any last comments before we play the next one? No. All right, go ahead and do our little intro, play the clip, and let's discuss it.

Closing, Book, And Self‑Examination

SPEAKER_12 49:01

The liquid stew bubbles. The wood fire cracks, spits, and heats up. The spoons are ready to scoop and slurp to the mouth. But wait, we spot another aroma of poison in the pot, bobbying and popping to the surface.

SPEAKER_16 49:26

The reason why this podcast is called the Joe Rogan Experience is because I think Jimi Hendricks is a religious figure. The guy died at 27, which when I was 27, I was a moron. This guy had transcended the normal boundaries of what music was. When you listen to Voodoo Child, he tapped into something inaccessible to the average person that plays a guitar.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

He had a guitar when he was five. He was so good at it, he streamed sacred information through his music, and he knew he did. He called it his electric church.

Timothy 50:08

Yeah, good thing. He must be having trouble pulling all of this very satanic stuff taught by devils off of the internet, correct?

Jacob 50:19

I guess so.

Timothy 50:20

I couldn't find any repentance videos like, yeah, I've been going to church, and I discovered 1 Timothy chapter 4, verse 1. Again, we're going to read this, and this is clear and to the point and solid. First Peter, or I'm sorry, 1 Timothy chapter 4, verse 1. Mr. Joe Rogan, you're still a spiritual moron. 1 Timothy 4 1. The Spirit clearly says, clearly says, This is in Holy Read. I'm not saying it's clearly says. I'm saying scripture says, the Spirit clearly says. The Spirit clearly says that in latter times some will abandon the faith. Now see the thing that Joe Rogan's got going for himself. He he never has come to the faith.

SPEAKER_05 51:09

Yeah.

Timothy 51:09

He he can attend church all day long. As far as I know, he's never, you know, said, hey, go get your copy. If even demons believe this is radically changing my life and exposing the hypocrisy and the sin and the shallowness of the church. There's none of this going on. He's just attending church, you know, the local social club. The spirit clearly says that in latter times, and I think everybody agrees, some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Now I ask you, Jacob, did you even know who Jimi Hendrix is or was?

Jacob 51:46

Uh yes, I did.

Timothy 51:47

Okay. So his name's come down through history. So yeah, it's an electronic church, but it's following a deceiving spirit for which Joe Rogan and clearly whoever else this lady is, and any number of people, in fact, a whole generation of people that got pulled in by his guitar playing, there is poison in the pot. One more time. The spirit clearly says that in latter times some will abandon the faith. This stuff is defined. Look at the music today in the church. It's totally defiling. And follow deceiving spirits and things by taught by demons. Look, it it's a deception. There's a poison in the pot. We don't know exactly what the poison is. We can't exactly point to which specific demons are involved here and what's going on, but we know there is poison in the pot. Comments, Jacob? Nope. Next one, move on, move forward. That one I think is clear, right? Yes, it is. All right, next one.

SPEAKER_12 52:54

The liquid stew bubbles. The wood fire cracks, spits, and heats up. The spoons are ready to scoop and slurp to the mouth. But wait, we spot another aroma of poison in the pot, bobbying and popping to the surface.

Timothy 53:17

Okay, hang on there, Mr. Jacob, before you play the next one, because this is one of your favorite topics.

Jacob 53:24

Okay.

Timothy 53:25

This is has to do with King James language. Okay. Um Do you know who Detective Grant McCall is of the city of Enum Claw, who works and conspires with his co-conspirator and King County prosecutors of Seattle, Washington? Do you know who he is? Yes, I do. Oh, you do. You do know who he is. Did you know that also he is a rabid, as in rabid King James Bible-only individual? I do. You do know that. Yes. You have you suffered under his bigotry, his hatred, and his version of the Bible that comes along and destroys anybody in any church that he finds offensive? Because somebody complained about the church. Do you know who King County prosecutors put their full promotion behind and City of Enum Claw and the chief police chiefs promoted? I do. Wow, you know a lot of this stuff. I you know what I did not know. What'd you not know? I did not know that the King James Bible was the official Bible of Washington State. Uh neither did I. Well, it's true. If they go about persecuting and prosecuting churches that don't accept the King James only Bible version, then clearly that is the standard for which we all need to go for.

Jacob 54:50

Uh well, I I think it's uh I think that the the Washington state, I don't think they care about any Bibles. And they I don't know, Jacob. I think Detective Grant McCall was just their pawn and their excuse to do what they wanted to do. Oh, talk about poison in the pot. There's a lot of poisons in that pot, different poisons. Everybody's got their angle.

Timothy 55:14

Well, Detective Grant McCall testified in a court of law that it is his version of the Bible that he believes in. And Judge Beth Andrews smiled. Judge Laurie K. Smith didn't have a problem with it, and he got promoted in the city of Enum Claw. So I can only conclude by the evidence that there's a secret organization of prosecutors and police that are King James Bible-only individuals, and they are setting out to persecute and prosecute churches and individuals that do not accept that doctrine. That's the only thing I can conclude.

Jacob 55:51

Well, there's a lot of things we conclude, but yeah, we we could conclude we we could uh we could speculate, I believe, might be the term.

Timothy 55:59

Yeah, well, I could be right. There could be a group of uh police and detectives that are playing into this.

Jacob 56:06

I think they're more into like if we're gonna take a stab at it, wouldn't it be more like satanic rituals than KJV only?

Timothy 56:14

Well, certainly things taught and inspired by demons, for sure. Of course, I'm being a little bit facetious here. Well, this next clip, the the person is going to actually read what the language would sound like. So if you went to a church that Detective McCall and any other prosecutors and these Christians that obviously clearly back a detective who is a King James only, this is what how you would hear them reading the Bible in church because they're purist, they're righteous, they're holy, they got it down. You know what would have been an interesting experiment is if I'd have preached only from the King James Version in the city of Enum Claw, I wonder how then it would have been more difficult. They'd have just made up something else. Anyway, play the video and let's listen up.

SPEAKER_09 57:04

What did medieval English sound like? A good shorthand way to figure out what medieval English sounds like is to take all vowels and pronounce them as you would in French and pronounce every letter. The word for wife would be pronounced weaf. The word for house would be pronounced house, the word knight kinikt. Here is what the Lord's Prayer would have sounded like in Middle English, probably sometime in the 14th century. Ur father that art in heavenus, halwed be the nama, the reom or kingdom come to be, and lead us not into temption, but deliver us from evil.

Timothy 57:46

Yeah, I have to take my French and apply it to the King James Version. I mean, clearly this lady is educated. She says it like, yeah, we all know French. We all, you know, could do that. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Jacob 57:58

Like we're supposed to know. Exactly.

Timothy 58:01

So any any quick thoughts on that? It's incomprehensible.

Jacob 58:05

Um yes, this is correct. Well, and she's also, yeah. Uh the King James version uses very hard to understand language. However, she's referencing what, 14 something. KJV was uh later.

Timothy 58:24

Yeah. Yeah. Um which there wasn't much difference. Again, yeah, we're not trying to be exact here. And by the way, I actually appreciate the King James version. I like its poetry, I like the way that it sounds, but it's not for preaching and it's not for teaching other people. All you're really doing at that point is okay, read it, then you have to explain to the person what they read, which then you've become your own Bible version or interpreter at that point, and then you have to go from there also. You kind of get my point, right?

Jacob 58:51

I get your point. However, if you were KJV only, they still would have persecuted you because there's uh the KJV, while very wordy, uh key stuff like uh Luke 14, 26, still says you have to hate your father, your mother, your wife, and children. Anyways, so I'm just letting you know you'd still be persecuted.

Timothy 59:09

Oh, absolutely. In fact, if I was invited to a church to preach from the King James Version, and that's what they wanted me to do, I I would do it. Sure. In one sense, I would appreciate it, it would slow me down. You know, because I can get going pretty fast. Yeah. Um, or I'd have to have I'd bring somebody up and go, uh, Jacob, would you read that passage and then I could press on kind of routine? Sure. Uh I'd be pretty miserable at it. Um let's go to 1 Chronicles chapter 12, verse 32. And part of the reason I'm just bringing up this video is most people have a very difficult time while I was revealing the absurdity of Detecting McCall. It's since most people, 90% of the people don't even know the controversy. Like, well, what do you mean by King James only 1611? What we mean is these people are fanatically attached to the concept that you have to use what would be called or they consider the King James Bible, the original like 1611 or somewhere around there. Because it's gone through some changes and all of that kind of routine.

Jacob 1:00:12

Been through a lot of changes, actually.

Timothy 1:00:14

People don't understand that when Detective McCall is testifying for this in a court of law, that this man is obsessed in his pride and in his self-righteousness. And you combine that with police abusive power, and all the power they have is abusive. I mean, Detective McCall even pulled a gun on his fellow officers in the lobby of the I don't know if you do you call the police station the lobby or in the front office of it, and they went out running and they still kept him on and promoted him later on. So that we're we're not talking in a um I wouldn't mind my neighbor next door who's like adamant King James only, likes to debate with me, and we kind of go at it. But as long as there's not this overweening self-righteous, like I'm going to burn you at the stake. In that sense, he's very much 1611. Like if you don't, if you don't agree with it, I'm gonna burn you at the legal stake. That's literally what happened.

Jacob 1:01:08

Yeah.

Timothy 1:01:10

First Chronicles chapter 12, verse 32. I just want to say, look, you gotta understand the time in which we live. Now, I'm not all for gender neutral Bibles or anything else. One of the it was the NIV way back, uh I want to say 1970s, that I consider kind of the best translation that was done well. The current one, you can't even buy that one. The current one that I go to for kind of a word for word is the ESV, um, and even they've changed some language. But it, you know, it's it's not like the current NIV that's a total mess. First Chronicles chapter 12, verse 32.

Jacob 1:01:44

Go ahead and read that passage, Jacob. Men of Ishkar who understood the times and knew what Israel should do, two hundred chiefs with all their relatives under their command.

Timothy 1:01:59

They understood the times and knew what they should do. It's a different time period. This is not 1611 England, although the persecution's the same. Correct? Yeah, correct. And there's no wisdom. Clearly, we see that within King County prosecutors and the police station and among those who would do King James only. Look, I I know, well, I know a lot of the churches that do 1611, but but they're not self-righteous, they're not overbearing. It's what they believe. I I look at what people actually obey.

Jacob 1:02:28

Sure.

Timothy 1:02:29

And by that I mean they obey the voice, the real word of God, which is Jesus Christ Himself. And that that's a whole different level. Read the King James, don't mind, uh, but don't burn me at the stake just because I don't agree with you. Yeah. Now, I know some people are thinking I'm nuts and this is crazy, and they still may think I'm crazy and nuts, and that that's okay. This next clip's a little bit long, but you're gonna hear uh Detective Grant McCall testify in a court of law that the Bible he believes in. And if you want more information about how this is all about the church, just go by several of the sites that we have on the Consider Podcast. Now, the video you're gonna play is long because it actually goes into the history and those who believe in the King James. We're not gonna discuss that part of it, but I wanted to put it in here just for reference, people for reference to show you what's kind of going on. Now, in this clip, I'm gonna repeat Detective McCall's words over and over again. And if you don't have the video format, but behind the video format are several cartoons and drawings and information about how this moved through the system, and this was not a minor deal by any means, and the persecution was extremely serious. It destroyed everything because this man is self-righteous and puffed up, and the people that support him are also self-righteous and puffed up, but they just don't happen to believe the King James Bible is the only one.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:52

So their fruit's not right, their fruit's wrong, according to the Bible. And I agree with the Bible with what it says, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in. So their fruit's not right, their fruits wrong, according to the Bible. And I agree with the Bible with what it says, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, so their fruit's not right, their fruit's wrong, according to the Bible. And I agree with the Bible with what it says, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, so their fruit's not right, their fruit's wrong, according to the Bible, and I agree with the Bible with what it says, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in, and the version that I believe in.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:52

The King James Version, KJV, of the Bible, first published in 1611, stands as a monumental achievement in English literature and religious history. Its translators were committed to producing a faithful and clear rendering of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts for their contemporaries. However, they worked within the linguistic framework of early modern English, employing spelling, punctuation, syntax, and vocabulary that were current at the time but have since become archaic. These features, while once accessible, now present significant barriers to modern readers and challenge the claims of King James-onlyism, the belief that the KJV is the only accurate or acceptable English Bible translation. One of the most evident challenges of the KJV is its use of outdated vocabulary and grammar. Terms such as the, thou, verily, and what are no longer part of everyday English and can confuse or alienate contemporary audiences. Resources like CARM and KJV today provide extensive lists of such archaic words and their modern equivalents. Underscoring the extent to which the KJV's language has diverged from current usage. For example, suffer once meant allow and prevent meant precede, meanings that are now obsolete and can lead to misinterpretation. Moreover, the KJV's syntax, including verb forms ending in eth and est, reflects grammatical structures that have long since faded from use. While these forms once conveyed subtle distinctions, such as singular versus plural pronouns, their absence in modern English diminishes clarity for today's readers. The translators themselves acknowledge the evolving nature of language, expressing respect for earlier English translations and affirming that Scripture should be accessible in the language of the common people. Yet the English of 1611 is no longer that language. Critics of King James onlyism point out that these revisions undermine the notion of the KJV's perfection. If the 1611 version were flawless, why were thousands of alterations deemed necessary within just over a century? The existence of printing errors and textual variants in early editions further illustrates that the KJV, like all human endeavors, is subject to imperfection. While the King James Version remains a literary and historical treasure, its archaic language once a strength now poses a barrier to comprehension. The translators' emphasis on clarity and fidelity was rooted in the linguistic norms of their time, not a mandate for eternal immutability. Recognizing this reality allows for a more nuanced appreciation of the KJV, while affirming the value of modern translations in continuing the vital work of biblical accessibility.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:41

The liquid stew bubbles, the wood fire cracks, spits, and heats up. The spoons are ready to scoop and slurp to the mouth. But wait, we spot another aroma of poison in the pot, bobbying and popping to the surface.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:05

Have you ever just tried shutting the f up? The toilet seats up. Put it down. Shut up. Clothes on the floor. Pick them up. Shut up. Breadcrumbs on the counter. Wipe them off and shut up. Dishes in the sink. Wash them and shut up. Stop turning small little molehills into divorce papers. Stop keeping score like a bitter Karen. Stop narrating every micro annoyance like it's a war crime. That's like nails on a chalkboard. You are not his mom. You are not his maid. You are his woman. Act like the prize, not the damn prosecutor. Fix the tiny sh yourself and watch him start fixing the big sh for you. Energy matches energy, guys. Peace breeds more peace. Nag breeds resentment. Pick your battles. 99% of this crap isn't even a battle. They're just chores. Handle it quietly, handle it fast, and handle it like the grown-ass adult that you are. The house stays clean, the vibes stay high, and the sex stays alive and powerful. Everybody wins. Keep screaming about toilet seats and watch him stop giving a f about anything that actually matters. Your nagging opinions or peace. Choose one because you cannot have both.

Timothy 1:09:24

Better to live live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife. Of course, now the divorce courts favor the quarrelsome right wife and will strip everything away from the man so that he doesn't even have a corner of the roof left to go to anymore. Correct. You know, one of the as we do these shows, I'll do one on cops, one on justice, do one on relationships, and so on. But it is it I have watched way, way, way too many wives with their own hands destroy the home. Look at Proverbs chapter 14, verse 1. Proverbs 14, 1 says, the wise woman builds her house. Now, minus the language and everything she said. She's got it down. She's building her house. As far as I know, she's not, well, she's not a Christian based just on the language and whatever. But the point is, she's doing what should be done and just being a decent human being, so to speak. And really, this is kind of special anymore. I I don't know that you really see it that much, right? Correct. Proverbs 14.1, the wise woman builds her house. You can't just be neutral. You can't be, well, I'm just going to do my minimal part in the house, and you know, hubby's here and he does his thing. I really don't like him. We'll just kind of tolerate. What's it say? She builds her house. Uh her comment about energy matches energy is the same thing as saying, I build the house. I'm putting forth the proper effort. I go the extra mile, whatever they consider. A lot of stuff she does, she's not going to consider the extra mile.

Jacob 1:11:10

Correct.

Timothy 1:11:11

I mean, that's just what you do. Yeah. For most women and those that are not taught to be busy at home, and boy, that covers a lot of people these days just in the church. They're not busy building their house. They're busy talking and yakking and being spiritual and having their ministry and going to conferences. Man, if these wives spent as much time building their house as they did going to these conferences and special meetings and praise and worship and all that stuff, the family would be built up again. The house would be made strong. Am I right on that one? Correct. Yes, you are. The wise woman, it's a very few wise women out there. Solomon discovered that. He says, you know, among a thousand men, he discovered, well, one that was righteous, but among the women he didn't find any, right? Yeah. Well, clearly that's because his sampling was small. It's only a thousand. Only a thousand. It's not like he said, all women in the world are stupid, dumb, and ignorant, and all men are wise and righteous and holy. That's not what he said. Yeah, I did a poll. I went out, I found a thousand people, a thousand men, a thousand women, matched them all up. And among this thousand, this this poll group that I found, I found one righteous man. So I'm not telling you men are like super spiritual beings. Believe me, you know, all these women that say, I want a godly man. They're lying. Yeah. They are flat out lying. And that that's when I eventually get to Bible girls, whoever that is, we're gonna discuss that. They live a lie. I better stop there because you know I'll go off on it. Yeah. You go ahead and read Proverbs 14:1 again, Jacob.

Jacob 1:12:49

The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands, the foolish one tears hers down.

Timothy 1:12:56

They're active in the destruction of the home. Take us out of here, Jacob.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:06

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