The Consider Podcast
The Consider Podcast
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A Shotgun In The Squad Room
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A detective allegedly clears a shotgun in a police hallway while coworkers look on, then later keeps his standing anyway. That’s the kind of claim that forces a hard look at what “accountability” really means when the people doing the investigating all work inside the same closed system. We walk through the Enumclaw, Washington allegations step by step, focusing on what is described, what is documented, and what the reported outcomes say about power inside a small department.
We revisit the December 29, 2010 confrontation described in the transcript: a squad-room argument, a visible rage, a shotgun handled in view of other officers, and a return for another firearm. From there, we follow the official response as it’s presented: paid administrative leave, removal of badge and weapons, restricted access to city property, and a psychological evaluation requirement. Then comes the turning point that raises the biggest questions for anyone tracking police misconduct, internal affairs, and public integrity: an investigation conclusion that there wasn’t enough evidence to justify termination.
Along the way, we examine why local news silence is criticized, how the role of attorneys and internal reviewers can create the appearance of a rigged process, and why comparisons to everyday workplace discipline make the situation feel even more stark. If you care about law enforcement transparency, Washington State justice, and how public trust gets lost, this conversation is for you.
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Shotgun Threat And Alleged Cover-Up
SPEAKER_00City of Enum Claw detective, in a fit of rage, pulls a shotgun on other Enum Claw police. As one would expect from a corrupt police force, instead of McCall being taken down on the spot, the evil deed was whitewashed. Consider what would have been the result if you had pulled a shotgun on a police officer. This detective is the one Seattle King County prosecutors used to destroy Sound Doctrine Church. The city of Enam Claw clearly has zero concern for a trustworthy police force. But then this is Washington State, which is not known for having any sense of justice. It is literally appalling to contemplate that such an individual has a police badge. One can only be fearful of what else is being hidden in the darkness by the Enum Claw Police, City Council, and City of Enam Claw attorneys. Let it be known that none of the local news outlets has reported the dark side of the Enam Claw police, city council, and attorneys. For a far more complete snapshot of the other corruptions associated with Detective Grant McCall and the Enam Claw Police, visit Enamclaw.com.
Paid Leave Over Real Discipline
Double Standards And More To Come
SPEAKER_01Years before this incident, however, McCall had an even darker moment within the Enam Claw Police Department. An incident that all but solidified there was virtually nothing he could not get away with. On December 29th, 2010, at around noon, an officer by the name of Tony Ryan had a discussion with McCall in the squad room. Eventually, a heated disagreement arose, after which McCall threatened Ryan and other officers by proclaiming that after the current police chief was gone, he levied a threat that was something to the effect of everyone in the department would soon be responsible for everything that they said. Following the conversation, McCall stormed out of the room. Other officers remarked that his rage was clearly visible in his demeanor. At some point following the conversation, McCall retrieved a shotgun, which he began clearing in the Enum Claw Police Department hallway in clear view and earshot of other officers. Clearly threatened by what was unfolding before them. Officers again remarked of the enraged demeanor McCall maintained as he stormed throughout the precinct. After clearing the shotgun, McCall stormed out of the building only to return a few minutes later to retrieve another firearm, then leave with it in his possession. As a result of McCall's threatening behavior, he was placed on paid administrative leave. McCall's ID card, badge, and weapons were all taken from him. He was also barred from accessing any police department vehicles, accessing any city buildings, including the police station. Lastly, McCall was to undergo a psych evaluation to determine whether or not he was fit for service and could return to the force. Nevertheless, however, according to the investigation report, it says, quote, although Detective McCall's behavior is concerning, the investigation report does not provide ample evidence to warrant termination. And who is responsible for investigating McCall's conduct? None other than Don Austin. That is the very same attorney who would later clear McCall of all wrongdoing after lying about a fellow police officer, allegedly. Apparently, threatening and pulling a firearm on fellow officers warrants a paid vacation and no further disciplinary action. Which, just as a fun aside, what do you think would happen to a Walmart employee if he or she threatened co-workers and then pulled a gun on them? I'll leave that one to you to speculate. Underpinning all of these various incidents, however, are even more issues with McCall. And could you believe it? It gets even worse.