#103 Why Christian Media Softens Hard Scriptures On Women And Church Authority

The quickest way to empty the gospel of its power is to make it sound safe. We dig into a viral kind of Christian content that says the right words about Scripture while quietly sanding down anything that might offend donors, audiences, or platforms and we ask whether that’s exactly what Paul warns about when he talks about avoiding persecution for the cross of Christ.

We start with Ali Beth Stuckey’s take on women pastors and then slow down to read what the text actually says. That means sitting with Genesis and creation order, then walking through 1 Timothy 2 beyond the single proof-text verse. We talk about quiet learning, full submission, authority in the local church, and why “context” can sometimes become a way to dodge the plain meaning rather than submit to it. If you care about complementarian theology, church leadership, or biblical authority, this is the kind of close read that forces clarity.

Then we pivot to discernment and Christian media. We use 2 John 9–11 to ask what it means to welcome voices who “run ahead” of the teaching of Christ, and we connect that to Mormonism and the way prominent figures like Glenn Beck are received in Christian spaces. We close with 1 Corinthians 11 and the debated issue of head coverings, focusing on the phrase “because of the angels” and the idea of a visible sign of authority in worship.

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SPEAKER_05 0:06

Hear the applause. Feel the thunder of clapping. Toss the graffiti. Lift the glasses of champagne. The gold does shine. The kisses are wickedly sublime. At the Oscars, welcome to the Consider Podcast. Where we consider God, family, mothers, and the Oscars, according to the Western Journal, Elizabeth Stokke's whitewashing of the cross of Jesus concerning women pastors. And much more on the Consider Podcast. When you Timothy and Jacob in this the year of the Lord 2026.

SPEAKER_08 0:54

Welcome to the Consider Podcast. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Timothy 1:13

Jacob, did you catch the Oscars?

Jacob 1:16

I did not catch the Oscars, no.

Timothy 1:19

You didn't pop the popcorn, gather the fam around, look at the widescreen TV and watch the Oscars.

Jacob 1:28

No, I've never watched the Oscars in my life. Maybe clips later on, but never like live.

omen Can Talk And The Hook

Timothy 1:36

You know, fortunately for us, a lot of Christians did watch it. And they made comments about it. Oh boy. Guess what? We're not even going to get to the Oscars today. I I was working on all the notes, but you'd be surprised about what we're talking about today will correspond and ties right in with the Oscars. So it's really going to be part two, which is not too uncommon. We're slowly getting to what Bible Girls gone or something like that. Technically, everybody just apply what we're talking about to Ali Stuckey and all that's going on there. It's the same thing. Uh whether we can dive in deep or not. They all look the same for that matter. I we'll get to that in a moment. Jacob, got a question for you. Okay. Did you know? Now I need you to think really hard on this. Did you know that women can talk? Uh yeah, I knew women could talk.

Jacob 2:33

Wow. Did you know women can explain things? I do know that women can explain things. How about communicate? Yeah, women can communicate.

Timothy 2:44

That's possible. Can that can women break things down in terms of arguments, discussion, that kind of thing?

Jacob 2:53

Sure, they can break stuff down.

Timothy 2:55

Well, Ali Bucky Stucky, or whatever it's called, wants us to know for sure that she can do those things. Oh, okay. What's kind of interesting about this, we had talked several weeks ago, began talking about uh Ali Stuckey's podcast and the Blaze and that kind of thing and women pastors. Well, a couple days later, there was a very, very short article by her on role of women pastors or preachers and how they're not called into that position. Coincidence, because I've preached plenty of time, you've witnessed it, where the topic I have is like right there and appropriate for that moment, or it's a response to it doesn't really matter. I'm just a coincidence in the Lord that I'm just noting for whatever future reference. Any comments or anything before we press on a little bit? No. All right, there's the link there that will take you to the article, and it's entitled Can Women Be Pastors? And then, of course, uh, being this this is all a promotion kind of thing, she she brings in Charlie Kirk because that's kind of the favorite tie-in. We're gonna listen to this article and what she has to say, and I want you to notice how the offense of the cross is taken away. It does not exist. She kind of answers the question, but then kind of doesn't answer the question. And it's all done to look good, to be acceptable, to go, well, that's your choice. This is what I believe, or this is kind of what scripture says. So go ahead and let's listen to the article, and then let's just break it down in terms of the offense of the cross.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Start article, February 20th, 2026. From the Blaze, written by Ali Beth Stuckey. Can women be pastors? Ali Beth Stuckey revisits Charlie Kirk's favorite question to ask her. Stuckey points to scripture and creation order to argue that pastoral authority is reserved for men. Blaze TV host Allie Beth Stuckey recently revisited a question the late Charlie Kirk often asked her in interviews, one that is often the topic of heated debate among Christians. For some reason, every time I did an interview with Charlie Kirk, he loved to ask this question because he knew what I was going to say, but he loved for me, I guess as a Christian woman, to answer it, Stuckey recalls. The question, Stuckey says, is can women be pastors? The short answer is no. No, she says, citing 1 Timothy 2, verses 12 to 14. He is speaking within the context of talking about the orderliness of the local church. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man. Rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. The verse reads, he goes all the way back to creation. And whenever we see anyone in scripture in the New Testament go back to creation, that tells us that this is grounded in something that is unchanging, Stuckey comments. For example, in Genesis chapter 9, when God commands the death penalty for a murder, he goes all the way back to the creation reality that man was made in God's image. That is still true today, which is why I believe we should still give the death penalty for murder, she explains. The simple fact that he goes back to Adam and Eve tells us something really important. So the question is, what can women do biblically? Women are encouraged to teach other women and to teach children, she continues. And while Stuckey herself notes that she speaks out publicly, she says that capability does not equal calling. Obviously, I can talk. Obviously, I can explain things. I like to communicate. I love the word of God. I love breaking things down. But I am not called to be a pastor in a local church. I am not called to preach in a pulpit in a local church, she explains. That is not my role. That is not any woman's role, she adds. Want more from Ali Beth Stuckey? To enjoy more of Allie's upbeat and in-depth coverage of culture, news, and theology from a Christian, conservative perspective. Subscribe to Blaze TV, the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution, and live the American dream.

Timothy 7:39

I don't know that I've ever met a woman who can't talk. So I have to agree with her on that. Yes. Uh I've met a woman that can explain things, meaning she can have a lot of words and think that her explanation is an explanation. That doesn't mean she's correct, but yeah, she can talk, she can explain. Uh, do women, quote, like to communicate, Jacob?

Jacob 8:01

Uh, they definitely do.

enesis Order And The Fall

Timothy 8:02

They love to communicate. You it's just the battle of the sexes, they call it out there back and forth. Now, whether or not she loves the word of God, we're putting that to the test. Just because she claims it doesn't mean I ought to go, oh, well, she loves the word of God because uh she says she loves the word of God. Now, she also says she loves breaking things down. Interesting. So she's analytical, she's full of knowledge, she can break things down, she can get it all in its proper place. And by the way, whenever you hear somebody, a pastor begin with, well, when we look at the context, uh, let your radar ears go up because usually what that means is you're about to be conned. And you'll notice throughout all of this, is there's a lot of subtlety what's going on here. She mentions uh being a pastor m several times, but she mentions preaching one time, and it's all framed within the local church, and it all has to do with the context of the local church and the way things should be done. Correct? Did I pretty much get her explanation down, which has been going on for the last 30, 40 years? Uh yes. All right. Anything you want to add to that before we go to our first scripture in Genesis chapter 2, verse 17, where I'm going to agree with Allie Beth Stucky that she can talk and walk and do a lot of things. Genesis chapter 2, verse 17. Jacob, any comments? Uh no, go ahead. All right, I'll let you read verse 17. Uh, let me set the context. You got your ears out? I do. Context. Uh before the fall, Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve. There's your context. Verse 17. God tells, go ahead. I mean, actually, Eve's not here yet, and he's telling Adam, go for it. Verse 17.

Jacob 10:01

But you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it, you will surely die.

Timothy 10:09

All right, so God is telling Adam, now that's significant that Adam's told, but Eve is not there. So Eve would need to listen to her husband as far as the commandment goes. And I don't have time to actually go into depth with this, but it's significant to note that man's role is to wash a woman in the word. She's to learn from her husband. So okay, so verse 18, it says, The Lord said, It is not good for man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him. Who ate from the tree of knowledge first, Jacob? Eve. Eve did. That's why Alice Alice, what's her name again? I'm butchering.

Jacob 10:53

I think her name is Allie.

voiding Persecution For The Cross

Timothy 10:55

Allie, Beth Stucky, can obviously talk first because she ate from the tree of knowledge first. She can explain things first because she ate from the tree first. She likes to communicate because she became goddess by eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge and likes to just yakity yak-yak about what she thinks she knows. Now she doesn't love the word of God because she eats from the wrong tree, and we'll see that here in a moment. I love breaking things down, you bet. Likes to go in, eat from the tree of knowledge first, become a god, turn to Adam, give it to him. So she's breaking him down, although I don't think that's quite what she meant. Breaking down the logic and all of that stuff, and it's the local church. It's the Garden of Eden, the first church of sin. Any comments on that? Did I butcher that? Nope. No comments. All right, so so what's going on with her article? Her article is doing everything but presenting the offense of the cross. Now, the reason she does that, let's go to Galatians chapter 6, verse 12. Because this whole ministry aspect of things of uh Stuckey and Kirk and Beck and all these people is to make a good impression to their audience to draw them in. They're not going to do anything to alienate them. I mean, I love it at the end of the article. It says, if you want to enjoy the upbeat message of uh Stuckey, okay, yeah, Jesus as he walked along, it was all an upbeat message, was it? It never ended in the cross. It never ended that you had to carry the cross, or that you had to give up everything. So it's all just Jesus was just all upbeat all the time, and that's why everybody deserted him. They were going, man, this is just too upbeat. I can't take this anymore. This is great. It's right. So they all turned and left because the excitement was too amazing. I want to get back to reality. I want to get back to life and struggles. Jesus makes this way too easy. We get out here, we're hungry. Guess what? He just miraculously feeds us all. It's like, man, that's I cannot take the goodness of all this upbeat message of Jesus. I think I made my point.

Jacob 13:10

Read Galatians chapter 6, verse 12. Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.

Timothy 13:29

Okay, they want to make a good impression outwardly. Now he compares it to circumcision, but you can compare it to the way that the ministries present themselves. They're just trying to make a good impression. And the reason they're trying to do that is not to offend, not to be persecuted by the cross. Now, I know Glenn Beck. I know these people go, I have lots of opposition, and I've been opposed in a lot of other areas. Well, not when it comes to the gospel, you haven't been. Everything about the presentation of the gospel from Charlie Kirk on down is to be accepted by everyone. That doesn't mean everybody accepts you. It doesn't mean it's like uh, you know, attendance goes up or that Carly Kirk was not actually murdered. It just means the attempt was there not to be persecuted by the offense of the cross. Now you can be persecuted for conservative values and that's Glenn Beck, these people, they actually state that's what they're about. They don't state, yeah, we're preaching the offensive message of the cross. They're stating, you know, the American way, the American dream, we do all these things, correct? Yes. The only reason they do this and have all of this proper promotion is because Paul says they want to make a good impression to avoid the offense of the cross. So Allie Bestuckies, if I pronounce it that right. Allie. Is it Allie?

Jacob 14:54

I think it's Allie, yeah.

Timothy 14:55

Allie, okay. Uh let's go to 1 Timothy chapter 2 and let's see what she left out. Because everything that she presented in her article was as soft as you possibly can make it, correct?

Jacob 15:10

Yes.

Timothy 15:12

We used to talk about that at uh Sound Doctrine Church before you know what I'm gonna say, right, Jacob, before we were ran out of town by King County prosecutors. We used to call that putting pillows around the cross. We'd always try to soften it up. Oh, the nails aren't that bad, and the they don't hurt in your feet that much, and being whipped and publicly shamed and thorns, it's just not all the bad. And so people would get the wrong idea because people want to go out and preach, but they want to put pillows around the cross. They want to make it a lot softer than it really is. And then God takes their commitment to him seriously, begins to call them to the crucified life, and they are in shock. And I've seen a lot of people actually get angry because they the gospel is misrepresented to them, and they begin to discover later it's not all positive, upbeat, get on with your life kind of routine. All right, let's listen to all of 1 Timothy chapter 2, verses 3 through 15, and then I want to break down just a couple uh aspects of what he says that Beth left out. Go ahead and play that, Jacob.

SPEAKER_06 16:20

First Timothy chapter two, verses three through fifteen. This is good and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men, the testimony given in its proper time. And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle. I am telling the truth, I am not lying, and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles. I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing. I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived, it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness with propriety.

Timothy 17:45

Jacob, let's go to first Timothy chapter two, starting in verse eleven, and let's break down what's left out. You'll notice how Beth Stuckey in her article mentioned the death penalty. I mean, she knows her audience.

Jacob 17:59

She knows what they like to hear. She shoved that one in there, like, geez, okay, yeah, okay. That works.

Timothy 18:06

Anyway, first Timothy chapter two, verse eleven. Read that, Jacob, and let's see what the offense part she left out. Because this is the part that's gonna get offensive. And I don't have time to get that offensive with it because I'm not preaching a sermon and really hammering in the nails and whipping it, so to speak. First Timothy chapter two, verse eleven, Jacob.

Jacob 18:26

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.

Timothy 18:30

Whoa okay, back up, back up. Full submission. What is it about the word full submission that these women do not understand? I don't think they understand much submission at all. And what is it about the word full submission the men do not understand? The original fall in the garden had Adam just standing there watching his wife instead of washing her with the word, instead of presenting the word, instead of saying, no, you can't do that, correct? Correct. In the same way today, these men know what these women are doing. They should step up to the plate and say, no, you cannot do that. No, you shouldn't be going doing seminars. No, you shouldn't be having podcasts. Yes, you should be busy at home. Yes, you should be busy at home teaching other women to be busy at home as you learn to love your husband. We broke this down a little bit earlier, but it's full submission, not half submission, not three-quarter submission, not in context submission, not acceptable submission, not a submission where the men let you get by with it. So, oh, I'm in submission to the men around you. Well, the men aren't giving you anything to submit to.

SPEAKER_09 19:42

Yeah.

Timothy 19:44

Can you imagine if I ran that the blaze or whatever and we were actually applying scripture? And so I'd go in, no, you have to learn in full submission. Go find something else to do. Go home. Fulfill all of those scriptures in its clearest, purest form. All right, let's back up again to 1 Timothy chapter 21. A woman should learn. Is learning a position of talking? No. But obviously, women can talk. Obviously, women can break things down. Yeah. Obviously, women love to talk and to communicate, but that what does it say? It says learn. Learning is in a submissive, quiet position. Isn't that what well, isn't that what learning is supposed to be?

Jacob 20:29

Uh yeah. Anytime you go to college, what does the professor do? He's gonna lecture. You get to ask questions later, but he's gonna lecture.

Timothy 20:36

With his permission, with his authority. Yeah. Of course, I don't know how much that goes into the future. This is true. I have no idea.

Jacob 20:42

Well, I have no idea what happens uh at colleges or schools at all anymore, but yeah.

Timothy 20:47

Well, you do kind of because nothing good comes out of it. Yeah. All right. A woman should learn in quietness. So she doesn't even get to ask a lot of questions. Now I'm gonna try and break this down today, but I'm saying, did did Best Ducky present this?

Jacob 21:05

No.

o Teaching And No Authority

Timothy 21:05

Did she say everybody go home, go home to your local church and go into church and sit down and shut up? No. Did she say go back to your local church and go in there? But don't really run things even as you say that you're not running things, and don't tell the men they are in charge. You do nothing, you say nothing, you let them rise up to their positions, and if they don't, they don't. And you just pray and see God. Was there any of that? No. Okay, you think that'd be offensive if I went and talked about that, Jacob? Yes. You don't think I'm gonna be invited anywhere? No, I don't think so. It's kind of ironic. I mean, I've never been quoted. Nobody's ever said, you know, would you come teach our women's seminar? This is really the word of God because she loves the word of God. So she loves 1 Timothy 2, verse 11. A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. She loves that. Yeah, when you look at her life, when you look at the makeup that's gone. When you look at the way she presents herself, what's going on? You can tell she loves just to be quiet and to learn and to be in full submission, right, Jacob? No. All right. Well, that's not even offensive enough. Let's get a little more offensive. Let's go to 1 Timothy chapter 2, verse 12. Because this isn't some suggestion that I put out. This is what King County prosecutors hated. Because I don't suggest, and I don't lay down rules either. It was shepherding by being a shepherd of the sheep. It wasn't by laying down dogmatic rules. That doesn't mean there's not authority in what's being said. In other words, I'm not going to force any woman to live this. Now, if a woman comes into church and she's not willing to submit to the basics of this and is mouthing off and she loves to communicate and so on and push stuff, guess what? We're gonna, I'm going to ask her to leave. And if she doesn't gonna leave, then I'm gonna demand she leaves. Got it? So there's an authority there. It's just you don't start with that authority. You don't start beating it down. But let's listen to what Paul has to say. First Timothy chapter 2, verse 12. I do not permit a woman to teach. Now, when Best Ducky's up there in her stadium or she's on the blaze, is she teaching Jacob? Yeah, she is. Well, why didn't she mention that? Because she loves the word of God. She loves parts of the word of God. Oh, I it's called idolatry, isn't that? Yeah. When we love certain parts and we make it all shiny and buff it up and promote it and make it look good and get the context just how we like it and squeeze it in there. That's called idol worship, is it not? Yes. All right. I do not permit a woman to teach. Wow, you hear that everywhere, right? No. Or, or, see, it's not, it's not like added to or plus plus. It's like I do not permit women to teach. Period. It's like, yeah, that's that's the standard. That's where you start. That's where Charlie Kirk started, right? He he got up there in front of everybody and said, you know, in the Lord I tell you that because of sin, and we're gonna look at that here in a moment, that I do not permit a woman to teach. Period. I don't think he said that. Now here's the other issue. They won't use the word I. The Bible says this over here, but they won't say I. How do I communicate to Jacob that I'm not walking around as this dogmatic lawgiver? How do I communicate that to people? What do you mean? Well, just agree with me. Oh, yeah. That I'm not dogmatic, that I don't walk around like this all the time. Oh, yeah, correct. Again. Um, but but is there not an authority like, yeah, well, don't push it? Correct. And the authority is meant to protect, to keep people in line with the word of God, to deal with sin, to make people holy, to have the abundant life, correct? That's what all the authority is for. Yes. All right. When I would walk around with a certain air or an attitude, or push comes to shove, or I'm presenting it on a podcast, it's very clear. I represent the word of God as the Holy Spirit moves and works. I do not permit a woman to teach. Now, is that offensive, Jacob?

Jacob 25:24

Um, only when the woman wants to teach. If you accept the word of God, I mean it is, but yeah, you know what I mean. It only because it rubs the woman uh the wrong way, as they say. So it is offensive?

Timothy 25:38

Yes. So then I will be invited to all kinds of places to speak because I preach the full message of God, which includes the offense of the cross, right? Uh no, you will not be invited. Okay. Then Paul wouldn't have been invited, would he? I do not permit a woman to teach or, or, or, or, to have authority over a man. That doesn't that encompass all kinds of things? Yes. Especially within the church. Now, I'm not advocating that out in the social world, a non-church environment, and you go around and say, okay, all you women need to not, you can't have authority over a man. There's a wisdom behind that, but it's not dogmatic. I'm talking to the church about the church among those who claim to be Christians. The pagans or the non-church people just don't know any better. So you respond with a great deal of love and concern, getting them to have their hearts opened up to the truth of the gospel. This is the abundant life. To teach or to have authority over a man. Offensive, isn't it, Jacob? Yes. Walk into a church. I suppose I started here with a sermon like, yeah, I got invited to a church to come speak, and they're they're trying to get everything in order. They're just getting started. And I said, okay, well, first thing that we're going to do is 1 Timothy chapter 2, 12, which means that no woman is allowed to have any authority over a man in this church.

Jacob 27:04

What do you think, Jacob? Uh you would not be invited back. Who would object? Who would be offended? Uh well, especially the women.

Timothy 27:14

It's equal. The men and the women. Sure. Uh men do not want the authority to lead. Yeah. They really don't. They they they want the woman to live. I know they'll disagree with that, but it's the fall in the Garden of Eden. Adam just stood there and let Eve lead. And so there's this dance that goes on, and sometimes people that aren't Christians they'll pick up on it, you know, how well it's really the women who run the church. And the men don't mind. It's not like they're rebelling. It's not like they're rising up against their oppressors, right?

Jacob 27:47

Correct.

Timothy 27:48

Okay. Far I did not permit a woman to teach her to have authority men. Now look at this. Here we go. We're gonna we're gonna go one more time. As if he's really trying to make the point. She must be silent. Now, what about the word silent? Does no one seem to grasp?

Jacob 28:11

Uh they don't grasp the word silent.

Timothy 28:14

I am I reading it in context.

Jacob 28:18

Uh yeah, we're there's plenty of context here.

Timothy 28:21

Well, I don't see a lot of silent women on podcasts. Uh in fact, it's a great deal of talk. Now, the reason that he gives is also the same reason she gave for her little puff piece. In fact, scripture calls that whitewash. First Timothy chapter 2, verse 13. For Adam was formed first than Eve.

Jacob 28:39

She gave that reason, didn't she? Yes, she said it's important whenever we whenever there's a reference from the New Testament back to the Old Testament. This is important. That's what she was saying. That's equal to murder. Yes.

Timothy 28:51

It's equal to the commandment about murder, correct? Yeah, yeah. All right. So we're on solid ground here. She's broke it down for us. I'm able to grasp her talk. I'm able to get this and go, oh, okay, I'm learning from you. I'm picking up on that. All right, I got it. For Adam was formed first. I mean, that's just difficult to grasp, isn't it? Then Eve. That's the reason for women needing to be silent. That's the need for women not to teach a man or to have authority over men. There is a powerful emphasis here on what Paul is saying. This isn't like a breakdown of a bunch of little bitey rules and what should be done. Man, this is clear. Forget all the like legalistic aspects of how this would be applied. Is he not just strongly clearly making a point? Yes. Well. Alibeth Stuckey seemed to leave one of the major reasons. Like, why should women be silent, Jacob? You don't answer the question, just act ignorant. Okay, yeah.

Jacob 30:07

I was gonna say, well, we're about to read it, but anyway.

Timothy 30:10

Yeah, we're about to read it. I uh you know the answer, at least you should. Yeah. Um I'm just giving you an opportunity. Uh what's the reason that uh a woman is not permitted to teach or to have authority over a man? It's the way God arranged things, right? It's how he he it's not the role I'm supposed to play in the local church. Now, I can do obviously she says I can go speaking everywhere and I can do these things and I can do this at a podcast. I'm just not in a local church. Oh, I see. You get a bigger time ministry and you're not confined to the local, you know, you're not confined to the home and all oppressed and doing home stuff and just going to your local church and just living, you know, that kind of humble, quiet life. You're you're not limited to that because that only applies to the local situation. So you can do all these grand things and these TV shows and these speaking engagements and have a you know a podcast and articles and be on the blaze and have your name. In fact, you got to use all three parts of your name to make sure that everybody knows, right? Because that none of this applies. Correct. Man, I'm glad I was able to break that down, Jacob. Yeah. All right, here's the reason why, folks. This is what she doesn't seem to realize, and it's in her face.

Jacob 31:29

Read first Timothy chapter two, verse 14, Jacob. And Adam was not the one deceived. It was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

Timothy 31:42

You know, and of course, verse 15 says, But women will be saved through childbearing. I'm not seeing any being saved through childbearing with Alibeth Stuckey. If, if, and you got childbearing, but that's no guarantee just because you're having kids. You also have to have if they continue in faith, love, holiness, propriety. All right, I've explained that before, but let's go back to 1 Timothy chapter 2, verse 14. And Adam was not the one deceived. You know, I was talking to a woman a couple weeks ago, and she was talking about her past life before Jesus Christ, and she said, Yeah, like all women, I wanted to hear certain words. You know, maybe it's I'm beautiful or you're lovely or whatever those words are. She goes, even if they weren't true, I would tell the men to tell me those things. Yeah. So women, the nature of the fall is to thrive on being deceived. Adam wasn't deceived. He knew exactly what he was doing was wrong. This is why Adam or men like to watch women do things that they shouldn't do. They know what's going on. They know their hoes or whatever. You know, there's kind of a people will talk about how men look at it at a bottom line, kind of a clarity. Women don't do that. There's all kinds of mixed motives and discussions. In fact, there's whole podcasts where these women will come on. It's amazing that they'll come on, and he applies basic logic to them, and they get trapped in all of that. They don't even see it coming, nor do they even care once it's there. So there's a there's a whole deception dynamic that goes on in a woman's character because she ate from the tree of knowledge first. You want to add anything to that, Mr. Jacob? No. All right. So then what is the the deception? I mean, like way out there. It's it's in our face, it's like right there. Nobody can contest it that Miss Stucky is taken in by.

Jacob 33:49

Um she wants to be like God. Nope. Nope. Well, no, she does. She well, she is playing as God. That was the original sin, though, right? Pardon? That was the original sin.

Timothy 34:03

Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're not wrong on my point. I'm just saying this was just kind of in her face. It's one of many deceptions, but this is the strongest one that's just like slapping her every single day.

ormonism On Christian Platforms

Jacob 34:15

I don't know. Which one? Glenn Beck's a Mormon. Glenn Beck's Well, oh, I knew he was a Mormon. Oh. Uh, but how is that slapping her in the face every day? Oh, because she's not part of all this? Right. She's not refuting Mormonism. Oh, yeah, this is true. I know, yeah. She's on the Blaze. The Blaze employs her. She's paid by the Blaze, but she won't even like call out any Mormon stuff.

Timothy 34:42

She actually, I know I don't, I think she's Presbyterian, but she looks as Mormon as the Bible gone girls look Mormon. There's a certain dress and fashion, but that's kind of a supposition. But no, Glenn Beck is a Mormon. It's a that's what he represents. In fact, he is pulled into the Christian community, or rather, they accepting whatever because the offense has been taken away. If she loved the word of God, the first thing she would be refuting, and I'm allowing her to get on to do the podcast and do the articles and so on and so forth, would be the fact that Mormonism is wrong. Let's go ahead and play the next scripture that's found in 2 John chapter 1, verse 9, and let's break this down.

SPEAKER_05 35:28

Did you catch that? Woosh! There they went. Watch them pant, sweat, and strain. They run so hard, they run so fast, they run with great belief. Watch them run. Right past Jesus Christ. 2 John 19. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. The Consider Podcast. www.consider.info. Examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.

Timothy 36:22

Alrighty, Jacob. Go to 2 John. Actually, verse 9. There is no chapter 1, although I think it displays it.

Jacob 36:29

Anyway, go ahead and read that, Jacob, and what does it say? Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

Timothy 36:46

Then it goes on to say, if anyone comes to you, what does it say? The verse the commandment in 2 John verse 10. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, what is the commandment, Jacob?

Jacob 37:00

Do not take him into your house or welcome him.

Timothy 37:04

Now hang on a minute here. I just talked two seconds ago that if Ali Beth Stuckey were loving the word of God, she would be reporting on the fact that Mormonism is wrong, correct? Yes. Well, let's up the offense a little bit to bring it to the truth. Second John verse 10 tells what should she do, Jacob? She should not even welcome him. That's right. She shouldn't be on the podcast. She shouldn't have been employed. She shouldn't have signed the contract. She shouldn't have gone in and said, Yeah, I will be a part of this. Let me read that to you, verse 9. If anyone, anyone who runs ahead, Mormonism runs ahead of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Is it not added on to? Did it not come decades later or generations later? Yes. Anyone who runs ahead. So Mormonism is a running ahead of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And does not continue in the teaching of Christ. This is Mormonism is an added doctrine tacked on to the gospel. What does it say the result is? Whoever does not continue in the teaching of Christ, what, Jacob?

Jacob 38:15

They do not have God.

Timothy 38:18

Now think about it for a minute. Does not have God. You can safely say Glenn Beck does not have God. I'm letting that soak in a little bit. Where do we see this going on? This kind of preaching of the gospel in Christmas Christian churches across the land. In fact, Glenn Beck was invited to Liberty University. And there's an MP3 file or four there, Jacob. You'll have to tack it on the end. It's a very long version, but it will give people a little more history of Glenn Beck as well as the Mormon religion and how it runs ahead of Jesus Christ. We're going to play a short clip here just to give people an idea. But the point is you shouldn't be having anything to do with him. I should be able to go to Ali Beth Stuckey and say, look, anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ doesn't have God. Correct? Correct. And if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. People should not be welcoming Beth Stuckey in or saying even hello to her or waving hi, let alone watching the podcast or attending the conferences and all the things that they have. Why? 2 John 11 says, anyone who welcomes him, just welcomes him. Like, hello, how you doing, shares in his or her wicked work.

Jacob 39:55

What do you think, Jacob? Uh and that's even uh I think uh unfortunately, if you start digging into the Mormon religion, you're almost being nice saying they're running ahead. I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but they yeah, they they've tacked on so much stuff that it's it's you start getting like it's bad, really bad.

Timothy 40:16

It is, and I'm trying to be very kind about the issue and you are, it's a valid point.

Jacob 40:21

You know, I I a hundred yeah, you you're again, you're you're this is like this is the nice reason to not be pro-Glenn Beck and welcoming Glenn Beck in, let alone a lot of other reasons.

Timothy 40:33

Yep, you know, it'd be fine if they said, Well, I'm a news organization and they didn't talk about the gospel and bringing Jesus. Not a problem. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when he was on Fox News, I enjoyed listening to him. He can break things down and he really went out there. But once you start attacking on God, and then of course you're bringing in women preachers and teachers and so on and so forth, and white horse and the offense of the cross and the underlying that as a whole, really a kind of a cesspool of faulty ground called Mormonism, that's a different dynamic altogether. In fact, we won't have time to get to it today when we get to the Oscars. It's the Christians that are excited about the Oscar. We'll get into that next time. Okay, play this short clip here just to give people a little introduction about Glenn Beck and his Mormon beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Glenn Beck and Mormons. First, a warning from 2 John verse 9. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. Being a Mormon is to run ahead of Jesus Christ, thus voiding any claim to being a Christian. Glenn Beck was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools in his youth. He converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormonism, in 1999, shortly after marrying his current wife, Tanya. His conversion followed a personal spiritual journey during a difficult period in his life, and he has stated that learning about Mormon teachings, particularly the plan of salvation, had a profound and life-changing impact on him. He decided to attend a Latter-day Saint worship service with his family, and this experience played a key role in his decision to join the faith. Glenn Beck's wife, Tanya, played a significant role in his conversion to Mormonism. After marrying her in 1999, Beck began exploring the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. While he initially had skepticism about the faith, his wife helped guide him through the process. Beck has stated that she helped him realize God was not truly at the center of his life before. And her influence, along with his own spiritual journey, led to his baptism into the LDS Church in 2000.

Timothy 42:44

It's no wonder that the Bible girls, gone girls, you know, emphasize praying for your future husband. You have these women in charge teaching their husbands. And it's no wonder Glenn Beck would like Beth Stuckey because she's a woman teaching a man while claiming not to teach a man. So that's how he came, quote unquote, to the Christian religion, which really is just he's a Mormon Christian.

SPEAKER_09 43:16

Yeah.

hat Should Replace Compromise

Timothy 43:16

And I'm using look, you can be a Christian and be a Mormon because Christianity is just a religion. Correct. When I talk about Jesus Christ, I'm talking about being coming a disciple of Jesus, which is something completely opposed to the Christian religion. Now it's not any comments before I move on to the next section, because the next section I want to talk about, well, what should Ali Beth Stuckey do? No, go ahead. All right, well, let's go to 1 Corinthians and let's back up a little bit here to 1 Corinthians 11 5. It's not enough to lay down a bunch of quote unquote, and I'm going to put this in the Christian mindset, all the negative laws, rules, regulations, and guidance. Because none of them are negative, they're all the abundant life. It's not enough to do that. Let's talk about what to fill things with. Well, we obviously have discovered from God, from Scripture, from the Holy Spirit, that Ali Beth Stuckey should be busy at home, helping other women to be busy at home, seeking to have children to be saved through childbirth with all the other things that go with that, faith, dressing properly, so on and so forth. There's plenty of things for women to do that are inside the home. In fact, so many things that if you did those things and were actually doing those things, you wouldn't have time to do a podcast, to do articles, to go around speaking, to have a whole quote unquote ministry, correct?

Jacob 44:54

Yeah, and uh just so you know, she has three children.

Timothy 44:58

Uh somebody raises them.

Jacob 45:01

Not her. Yeah, I well. Yeah, I don't know how old they are. I don't know how old they are. But it's because they would still be at home, correct. She she's not at home. Somebody's at home with them, though, or I don't know, maybe not. Sure. We'll just calculate the hours.

Timothy 45:17

Yeah. You know, you're doing all these things. Uh look, I've watched plenty of women, even on a personal level, devote themselves to things outside the home. The conflict is huge. There's just not a don't even talk about being a mother. They're raised by somebody else. Yes. It's not the mother at home, which God has clearly set down. Um the biology says that.

Jacob 45:36

Correct.

Timothy 45:37

The difference between a man and a woman clearly spells out who should be busy at home, right? Correct. All right, we'll go ahead and play this next clip. And this is what Allie Beth Stuckey, this this is a minimum point, a minimum point of what should be going on.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Topic No More Running Beyond Jesus, Eli Eloi. Beth Stuckey, after denouncing the Mormon religion and compromising the message of the cross about women being busy at home, Miss Stuckey should consider the following. Book of 2 John, verses 9 through 11. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work. From the book of Isaiah, chapter 3, verses 16 through 17, plus verse 24, the Lord says, The women of Zion are haughty, walking along with outstretched necks, flirting with their eyes, tripping along with mincing steps, with ornaments jingling on their ankles. Therefore the Lord will bring sores on the heads of the women of Zion, the Lord will make their scalps bald. On that day, instead of well-dressed hair, baldness, instead of fine clothing, sackcloth, instead of beauty, branding. Now from the book of Corinthians. First Corinthians chapter 11, verses 5 through 10, and every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off. And if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man, neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.

Timothy 47:43

Jacob, let's go to First Corinthians 11 1 and break this down a little bit. And tack on also at the end of this podcast the track that I have on coverings that breaks this down even a little bit more. But this is a commandment that should be seen everywhere in every church, and at a bare minimum at a woman's conference. I mean, heaven forbid any of these women should actually be busy at home helping other women be busy at home, right? Correct. First Corinthians 11, verse 1. Jacob, read verse 1, and we're going to move fast through this.

Jacob 48:17

Follow my example as I follow the example of Christ.

Timothy 48:21

Okay, so this is in context, right, Jacob, that we're talking about following Jesus Christ, right? Yes. Verse 2, I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings just as I passed them on to you. If you want to be commended, then do what Scripture says. Do what sound doctrine demands. Watch your life and doctrine closely. Then you'll be praised rather than rebuked. Verse 3, so let's talk about the example of Jesus Christ. Let's talk about the teaching and remembering the teaching.

Jacob 48:57

What does verse three say, Jacob? Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Timothy 49:11

Man is the head, and there has to be an authority, a representation. This is not, you know, word knowledge. This isn't word salad where the woman says, Oh, he's in charge. He's such a godly man, right? Correct. Verse four tells us that because man. Now, does that go back to the book of Genesis, Jacob? Yes. Uh, the fact that Adam was made first, does that go back to the very foundations of the universe and the creation of the world? Yes. Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Now, verse four tells us, okay, we got that fact down, Paul. It's clear. He's broke it down, he's laid it down, it's with authority. He says, look, this is the example of Christ. I'm remembering what Jesus taught. I'm putting this before you verse four is very clear. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. Now who's the head of man, Jacob? Christ. So if a man prays or prophesies with his head covered, who is he dishonoring? Christ. Now we know that the covering is not hair because then all men would have to shave their heads. Correct. Well, we got that clear. Verse 5. And every woman who prays or prophesies, that is, she's doing something a little bit more than just out of the norm, with her head uncovered, dishonors who, Jacob? The man. The man. Dishonors the man. So all of this talking about my husband is the head. He's in charge. He provides. He's got the difficult part. He has to lay down his life. All this talk that these women do, it's nauseating. Just go get busy at home and submit and let God work on your husband and you stop working on your husband to make him into the image of godliness that you think he should be. It's called idolatry. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head. They dishonor their husband. Ali Beth Stuckey, every time that she prays without a covering, she dishonors her husband. Is that clear in 1 Corinthians 11 5? Yes. Now I'm guessing that I can type out there and go, show me the teaching on coverings that Ali Beth Stuckey has, and it's going to nowhere to be found in the context of actually doing it, because then I would see it on the podcast. I would see it in the women's conferences, because they would be wearing a sign of authority, the sign of authority saying, I am in submission in reality, in truth, to the men.

Jacob 52:12

No, but yeah, we don't see that.

Timothy 52:14

Okay. Verse 5. And every woman, every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head. It is just as though her head were shaved. Oh, now we're back to Isaiah. Because where is all of this Beth Stucky stuff coming from? It's not just her. She's there's a whole sea. It's coming from arrogance, from tripping along, from jangles, from doing all their things. Correct? Correct. Then he goes on to even this is so important that Paul goes on to break down other reasons and other logics to try and get them to understand what's going on. Verse 6, Jacob, I'll let you read First Corinthians 11 6.

Jacob 53:01

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off. And if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.

Timothy 53:13

Now, this is you know, Paul's not talking to arrogant children women who you say, Well, look, if you want to shave your head, that's fine. Okay, then I'll shave my head. We've all seen rebellious children like that. Like, well, you can't go outside. Okay, fine, I'll just play in my Xbox for, you know, five generations, right? Yeah. That's not what he's trying to do. He's pointing out to the fact that they should be ashamed that if I walked in on the blaze with a pair of head clippers, and I sat down to Alibeth Stuckey with Mormon Glenn Beck sitting there unrepenting of his doctrines, not to mention becoming a real disciple of Jesus rather than a Christian, and I was buzzing the clippers saying, You got a choice here, woman. You either shave your head or you wear a covering. Now, what's the point? Not the that I want to shave her head, it's to make a point that she should wear a covering. That it would be an embarrassment. It would be a quote shameful thing to do, right? Correct. Anything I need to add to that? Do I need to become more offensive to make it clear? Seems pretty clear. Okay. Verse 7. A man ought not to cover his head since he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. Of course, we've heard it a million times. Men are supposed to love their wives and you know hold them. Yeah, I get that. That's all in there. But godly women, not just women, not just some generic demand that these Christian, and I'm putting that in quotes, place demands upon or expect from their husbands. You need to be worthy of it, right? Wouldn't that be the striving to be worthy of it? Yes. Well, wearing a covering is one's is that hard to do, Jacob. Uh you mean Well, I mean, in terms of the physical, like, here's a covering, put it on your head when you go into church or when you're in the prayer closet. Is that is like difficult to do? No, it's not physically hard. Okay. So I'm not this is not like some abstract thing, like, well, go sell everything and give to the poor and then come back and follow Jesus Christ. And then we kind of discuss it. This is something that can be done. Correct, yes. Okay, for this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. Now, is any of that in a cultural context? First Corinthians 11 10, Jacob, is any of that in some particular local church problem? No. Well, let's back up and double check that. Let's go all the way back up to verse 7, and we're going to read down to 10 again. Sorry, I'm keeping you all over the place, but I'm trying to make a point. A man ought not to cover his head since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Is that a cultural thing to a local church? Uh no, this is facts. Facts to the foundation of the world and the way God created man and women. Correct? Correct. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Verse 9. Neither was man created for woman. Men are not here to please their women. It's that simple. Yeah. Now, when she became a goddess in the garden, then what did she expect from Adam? You will please me. Here's the demands. You will earn this, you will do that, you will be six feet tall. I mean, there I could go for hours and play videos where they go up to women and go, okay, what do you expect in a man? Have you seen those, Jacob? Yes. You know, how tall is this and this, and how much money do they have to earn, and so on and so forth. It's ingrained in the sin of women. Verse 8, for man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. If there is one thing about these passages, it has nothing, nothing to do with a local problem in Corinth. Correct. Then he goes on to say, with a top-notch argument, for this reason and because of the angels, the women ought to have a sign of authority on her head. A woman sitting in church learning in quietness and submission should have a sign of authority on her head that says, I am in submission to the word of God. I am submission to the to my husband, to my head, to these men that are leading the church. Isn't that what it said?

Jacob 58:13

Yes.

Timothy 58:15

Now you'll know in the book of Revelation it says to the church or the angel in Thyrotire, right? The seven churches of Asia goes on to talk about each one has their angel, right? The angels are looking down on I don't know what church Glen Beck goes to in terms of you know how they do their worships or how Ali Bestucky goes to, but angels are watching down on these every church that claims to be a Christian. And when they look at the women in the church and their conduct and everything that we've looked at and more, because I've only scratched the surface of what men and women should be doing, if they don't see a sign of authority on the women, what do they see, Jacob? They see shaved heads. Shaved heads, and eventually God will judge those shaved heads with swords. Play that clip again, take us out of here, and we're gonna try and pick up with the Oscars next time.

SPEAKER_01 59:19

Topic No More Running Beyond Jesus, Eli Eloh. Beth Stuckey, after denouncing the Mormon religion and compromising the message of the cross about women being busy at home, Miss Stuckey should consider the following Book of Second John, verses 9 through 11. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work. From the book of Isaiah, chapter 3, verses 16 through 17, plus verse 24, the Lord says, The women of Zion are haughty, walking along with outstretched necks, flirting with their eyes, tripping along with mincing steps, with ornaments jingling on their ankles. Therefore the Lord will bring sores on the heads of the women of Zion, the Lord will make their scalps bald. On that day, instead of well-dressed hair, baldness, instead of fine clothing, sackcloth, instead of beauty, branding. Now from the book of Corinthians. First Corinthians chapter 11, verses 5 through 10. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off. And if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man, neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.

xtended Teaching On Sign Of Authority

ebsite Info And Final Disclaimer

SPEAKER_07 1:01:07

For this reason and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. This document offers a thoughtful exploration of 1 Corinthians eleven verse ten, focusing on the idea that women are called to wear a physical sign of authority, understood as a covering, when participating in worship. Rather than presenting this as an outdated cultural practice, the text frames it as a meaningful and enduring expression of spiritual order, rooted in the relationship between God, Christ, man, and woman. It gently emphasizes that this practice reflects a divine design established from creation, where man is seen as the head of woman, and both are under the headship of Christ. The document carefully distinguishes between long hair, which is described as a natural symbol of a woman's glory and submission, and the specific requirement of a covering during prayer and worship services. It suggests that while long hair is a gift from God, as a covering for everyday life away from worship, that long hair does not fulfill the scriptural instruction for a visible sign during sacred gatherings. This distinction is presented not as a legalistic rule, but as a way for women to visibly honor God's intended order and to acknowledge spiritual realities, including the presence of angels. Drawing from early Christian practice, the text expresses concern that modern churches have moved away from this tradition, sometimes due to pride or cultural pressure. It encourages a return to this practice, not as a burden, but as an act of humble obedience and reverence. Ultimately, the covering is portrayed as a quiet, personal testimony of faith and submission carrying deep spiritual significance for both the individual and the community of believers. Sign of authority. Do you recall a time when women wore hats to church? Well, that tradition came from Scripture. Indeed, in the first Christian churches the women wore a covering on their heads. However, as the church watered down the gospel and sought to please the sin in men rather than calling them to repentance, this command died out. Paul wrote to the Corinthian church about how they should conduct themselves during worship. Starting in 1 Corinthians chapter eleven, going all the way to chapter 14, Paul talks about a few matters including the Lord's Supper, spiritual gifts, unity, love, and the need to remain strong in the faith. While no church would say that we don't need to love one another, or that we shouldn't take the Lord's Supper, most say that women do not need to wear a sign of authority, or a covering, during church services. As we would expect with Christ, though, no command can be ignored except at great peril to our spiritual safety and salvation. God made it clear, through Paul's letter, that a woman must wear a sign of authority during a worship service. The woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. Not cultural. Now, we know what you are thinking. Everyone immediately thinks this is a cultural command. You may even have been taught that Paul wrote the command because he was addressing some local social problem. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. Let's look at what Paul wrote a little more closely and in context, starting with what he wrote before this command. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. Paul declares that a woman should wear a sign of authority because of the angels. The angels were not some local problem. Every true church in Jesus has angels helping, watching, and serving over it. In fact, none of the reasons Paul lists, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, had anything to do with the culture of the time. Indeed, a woman must wear a sign of authority because of the way God made the universe. Let's look at the main reasons why a woman should wear a sign of authority. Christ is above every man. No one would say this is a cultural statement, but a simple fact regarding how God arranged not only the universe, but the heavens themselves, and, just as Christ is above every man, so God declared that man is the head over woman. Unless you want to say that God is not the head of Christ, you cannot say that women should not wear coverings. Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. If that were not enough, Paul gives another irrefutable fact. Woman came from man. When God made Eve, the first woman, he did so by taking some of Adam. Again, this is no cultural matter, but a fundamental truth of creation. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Verse eight. Woman was created for man. Paul strikes at the heart of why both women and men do not want a woman to wear a sign of authority. God did not make woman to live her life fulfilling her dreams, ambitions, and desires, but to help man fulfill his. God made the woman to be man's helpmate. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. Long hair People often claim the Bible tells us that long hair is the covering, another classic excuse for not wearing a sign of authority. This is simply not the case, though. Paul actually wrote of long hair as being one more proof that a woman should wear a sign of authority. God gave woman long hair at creation. It is the original covering he created her with. And therefore, a sign of authority is not needed outside the church. Long hair, and of course, every Christian woman should have long hair, acts as a covering for her daily life. After the fall and the cross, however, God requires women to wear a sign of authority demonstrating to the angels and others that men are back in their true position of headship in the church. Judge for yourselves. It is proper for a man to pray to God with her head uncovered. Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory, for long hair is given to her as a covering. So people now say, See, long hair is a covering, yet Paul used every argument he could to show that a sign of authority is needed in church. For example, if I wanted to prove that the earth is round, I might point out that the moon is also round, showing the natural state of things. However, that doesn't mean the earth is the same size, or is full of craters like the moon. Paul pointed to woman's original covering to support his point that she now needs another covering, a sign of authority in the church. He used one fact to prove another fact. Finally, we know that hair is not the covering because of first Corinthians chapter eleven verse five, and every woman who prays or prophesizes, with her head uncovered dishonors her head. It is just as though her head were shaved. Obviously, Paul is referring to the lack of another covering and saying it is just as though her head were shaved, for in saying as though her head were shaved, he makes the point that in reality her head is not shaved. Again, if this were not true, the passage would make no sense. Paul would have said something illogical like every woman who prays or prophesizes with a bald head, it is just as though her head were shaved. Such a sentence would not be the work of a sane man, but a madman. We know these women had hair on their heads because of verse six. Paul says that if a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off, but if the woman has no hair on her head, how can it be cut off? If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off, and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. Also, if hair truly is the covering, then every man must pray with his head covered. This is why the Jewish Yamaka is sin in God's sight. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. Whatever you might think about this topic, when a woman prays with her head uncovered, she dishonors Jesus Christ and the men in her church. She dishonors her head. Remember, Christ is the head of man and man the head of woman. Therefore, godly men and Christ become one head over women. Indeed, a woman's head is certainly Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ has said that if she prays with her head uncovered, he is dishonored. A sign Let us remember that we are talking about a sign of authority, something out of the ordinary that demonstrates to all, even angels, that women are in submission to men. Young's literal Greek translation puts it this way. Because of this the woman ought to have a token of authority upon the head, because of the messengers. The word token provides a perfect definition for this passage. It means something serving as an indication, a proof, or an expression of something else, a sign. The sign of authority is proof or an expression of what lies in the heart. Non Christian women in the world often have long hair, but for reasons of vanity, not godliness. This is why God requires a second covering during worship. Remember what we saw earlier. God made man and woman with their natural hair length, short for man, long for woman, as a symbol of their inward spirituality and submission to his design. When we fell, so did those symbols in our acceptance of his plans. When a woman returns to the Lord, she returns to symbolize her joyful submission to God. It represents that she once again accepts the authority of men as God first established. A sign of authority should not cover a woman's face, because we have a greater covenant than Moses. He had to cover his face because the radiance of the old covenant faded away. In other words, none of us have to cover our faces because, as part of the new covenant, we have freedom through Christ to seek the face of God. And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3 verse 18. For a woman, the sign of authority means that she is in submission to the men in the church, that she understands a woman must not teach or have authority over a man. That she should be silent in the churches, and when she does speak in church, it is only with permission from the male leaders. In fact, it is the covering that gives a woman an opportunity to pray, fellowship and speak. A sign of authority is not some fluffy, cute command that women obey to receive blessings. Because of woman's sin in the Garden of Eden, God requires Christian women today to wear a sign of authority. This is the offensive message of the cross, and to wear a covering for any other reason is total sin. Certainly, it is a joy for women who wear it in faith as part of the crucified life, but only for those who truly admit their sinfulness and surrender to this loving discipline from God. No other practice. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice, nor do the churches of God. In every New Testament church, except for the one in Corinth, the women wore coverings. It didn't matter if it was Rome, Spain, Athens, Israel, Colossae, Philippi, Ephesus, or any other culture, all Christian women wore a sign of authority. Only the Corinthian church became puffed up in pride and rebelled. As Paul stated, all the churches of God practiced these things. Simply there was no other practice. This was Paul's final proof. Therefore, all contention or objection to obeying what he wrote about this issue should be totally silenced. Yet many today say Paul meant that there was no practice of coverings in these other churches. What pure foolishness? This would mean that Paul took the time to give commands about the Lord's supper, love, spiritual gifts and more, but in the case of coverings he ended by saying, Never mind, skip it, no other church practices these things. Again, to hold to this view makes Paul out to be some kind of whimsical madman. In reality, Paul was so serious about these matters, from coverings to the proper use of spiritual gifts, that he declared if anyone ignores these directions, that person must be ignored. For God is not a god of disorder but of peace, as in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches, they are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only one who is a prophet or spiritually gifted? Let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. It doesn't matter if they are a preacher, elder, leader, or your favorite brother or sister, if they ignore everything Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians chapter eleven through fourteen, you must ignore them. You cannot speak to them, listen to their sermons, or read their books. They must be ignored. If any woman will not wear a sign of authority in church, if any church will not require and teach that all women should wear a sign of authority, then they must be fully, completely, and totally ignored, just as Paul wrote. While this command is a clear requirement of God, it is very far from being legalism. The need to love is also a requirement of Jesus. We do not want visitors to wear a sign of authority just because you worship with us. Rather, we encourage you to seek the Lord, surrender to him, and begin to wear a sign of authority in the joy of the Holy Spirit, remembering it is by faith in God's grace that disciples obey all the things Jesus commanded. As Romans chapter 1, verse 5 declares, this is an obedience that comes from faith, and the demand for a sign of authority is for all disciples of Jesus in every church, in every denomination or place around the world. 1 Corinthians 11, verse 16. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice, nor do the churches of God. Contact the Consider Podcast. www.consider.info examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.

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